Disc Golf Coach: How to power your throw!

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

Комментарии • 131

  • @SherryGodfrey-b8m
    @SherryGodfrey-b8m 9 месяцев назад +1

    Feeling the power behind a left-handed punch when you engage your hips is the single most helpful thing I've learned from thousands of videos. Well done. I finally get it lol.

  • @nicholasmoreno7904
    @nicholasmoreno7904 3 года назад +3

    Best tutorials on RUclips! I’ve added these tips into my everyday training and I’m throwing more accurately and farther. 🙏🏻

  • @jasoncoffenberry
    @jasoncoffenberry 4 года назад +21

    These are the best tips I’ve found on RUclips

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад +2

      Thanks! I really appreciate that.

    • @lawrencethomas8242
      @lawrencethomas8242 3 года назад +1

      I agree. How do these videos not have more views?

  • @jaym6945
    @jaym6945 4 года назад +18

    This is actually one of the best disc golf technique videos. There has been a lot of talking about "lawn mower" and "pulling on a line". Even pros say that although they don't actually throw like that. Only because Danny has a lot of followers doesn't make him right (he did some good Videos but some of the basic concepts are just wrong).
    So thankyou for pushing things in the right direction!

  • @andrewsperry6450
    @andrewsperry6450 3 года назад +5

    The way you describe how the hips and left hand move throughout the shot has helped tremendously. This is the first video that gives tips that translate perfectly. Most videos I’ve found teach things that no one does and that make you feel uncomfortable. Great stuff man.

  • @paulcompton2128
    @paulcompton2128 2 года назад

    Great breakdown of the key concepts in a short amount of time -- good stuff Rick!

  • @qedyt
    @qedyt 4 года назад +3

    This is gold. Best instructions I have come across so far! Now I understand much better what I am doing wrong (main thing leaning forward). In addition to reachback too high and pulling too far. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • @anthonymiller3987
    @anthonymiller3987 3 года назад +1

    The punching analogy makes so much sense. Thank you

  • @michaelhanson7866
    @michaelhanson7866 3 года назад +2

    This was extremely informative!!! More disc golfers need to see this. Cheers.

  • @GuyInnagorillasuit
    @GuyInnagorillasuit 3 года назад +5

    Thanks! I've been trying to get more lower body into my throws and while there's no "secret sauce" here, the way you conceptualize some of the motion clicked with me better than some of the other advice I've seen on the same things.

  • @markshell9408
    @markshell9408 3 года назад +1

    Great comprehensive video. I'm just 3 months new to the sport and have come to the knowledge of the same talking points, but through fragmented topical videos and self discovery. thanks.

  • @halanfones9345
    @halanfones9345 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the videos. Started playing two months ago and can't throw a disc past 160'. Really liked your explanations.

  • @natemaas1982
    @natemaas1982 2 года назад +1

    This was amazing Coach Rick.I'm saving this one and I'm gonna rewatch a bunch. The only issue it, if there is any, is s that there's a lot in here when you are trying to fix had habbits..But awesome awesome tips.

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  2 года назад +1

      Appreciate it, definitely one of my earlier videos. Always looking to improve them in the future!

  • @rossdelrio246
    @rossdelrio246 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for this tutorial! This is the most complete discussion of the backhand throw I have found on youtube. Your comparison of loding the hips like a baseball swing and driving the back knee forward is a game changer for me because I was not doing any if that.

  • @TheBorkka
    @TheBorkka 4 года назад +2

    I like the way you expain the right mindset, for example "you want to think quick and smooth, not power"

  • @cabalse
    @cabalse 3 года назад +1

    Very nice breakdown of the throw :) Thx, keep it up

  • @smp1396
    @smp1396 4 года назад +3

    Thank you for taking the time to do this video, much appreciated.

  • @dwmichaels
    @dwmichaels 4 года назад +2

    I'm with you, Rick. Nice job of explaining it. The one thing I see with all the top distance throwers is incredibly fast hips from closed to open and great timing. I started throwing this way last year and while I haven't boosted my distance a ton (I have lots of other issues), I found that it does help with being more consistent with my aim and I'm getting the distance as my old technique but it's much easier on my body. If I had any suggestions, it looked like you didn't have this written down - so perhaps note cards or a white board with your talking points so it's easier to stay on track :)

  • @jhillyt
    @jhillyt Год назад +1

    Great info! Thanks for sharing

  • @stonerock1980
    @stonerock1980 4 года назад +2

    lots of great tips, you hit most of what i am working on now, this is a great video !

  • @jasonrlee
    @jasonrlee 3 года назад +1

    Thanks! The punch move was the missing piece I needed to understand how my hips should feel in a throw. Hopefully I can apply it while a disc is in my hand.

  • @joeillingworth1141
    @joeillingworth1141 4 года назад +1

    This is great. I made the mistake of having good form but not understanding it, so when things broke down I couldn't fix it. This really helps

  • @JustinIrick
    @JustinIrick 4 года назад +1

    These tips are amazing, super well put and mad easy for me to follow

  • @mikehaney2601
    @mikehaney2601 4 года назад +1

    Great job. Well done video. Thanks. I can’t wait to get out in the field and see why happens. Much appreciated.

  • @jimmymullis4655
    @jimmymullis4655 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic overview and great examples. Thanks!

  • @JMaxima72
    @JMaxima72 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic vid! I really need to just practice my footwork over and over while making sure my front plant foot is perpendicular to the target so I can use the power of the hip to really get some torque into the throw.

  • @itisjustmedude
    @itisjustmedude 3 года назад

    You describe perfectly why I switch throw. I learned to plant and shift with my left foot forward throwing everything from a football, to a baseball, to a javelin. I learned how to throw a frisbee with both hands to play ultimate. Now that I'm 57 and picking up disc golf, I can't really get a lot of power into a forehand so I just switch sides.

  • @CentralOSurvival
    @CentralOSurvival 4 года назад +1

    Great video!

  • @darrylfrith8616
    @darrylfrith8616 3 года назад +1

    Great explanation, this helped a lot!

  • @markhumphrey8894
    @markhumphrey8894 4 года назад

    great info here! Didn't think about bringing the wt from the back foot into the front foot as you are turning. I putt it all in front before I start turning.
    Having to try this. I wish you could do some more field shots so we can see you throwing the disc.
    Keep studying this game. You have great insight.

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад

      A lot in store for the future. Just a lot of stuff going on right now, but this year will be big for me.

  • @michaelargo2455
    @michaelargo2455 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, this is so good.

  • @GerardStOnge
    @GerardStOnge 3 года назад +1

    Really helpful!!! Thank you!!!

  • @henri-1995
    @henri-1995 4 года назад +1

    Acually that was a really good clinic! Now i really start realizing what my lower body needs to do. to get speed to My throw, ofcourse takes Time and lot of repetitions to add that to own form.

  • @Ladramar
    @Ladramar 3 года назад +1

    Haven't seen that tip about keeping the left arm tight by holding the pants...I'll give that a try!

  • @jaym6945
    @jaym6945 4 года назад +2

    I love the explanations. It looks so right what you are doing and saying. But I still struggle when I want do do it by myself. Do you have some drills, that might help getting a better feel for that spinning motion instead of pulling through?

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад +2

      About to make a video with drills to practice.

  • @ryanmustain6545
    @ryanmustain6545 3 года назад +1

    The more I think about it, since I was a righty in baseball I wonder if it would make more sense to work on a LHBH throw? At least from a lower body rotation point of view.

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  3 года назад

      I should throw lefty because of my baseball swing, but I still throw RH. My left arm is useless for throwing.

  • @mattiaskruger4104
    @mattiaskruger4104 4 года назад

    Nice video!

  • @samhowl1152
    @samhowl1152 4 года назад

    Can you expand on the part after you pull to center chest? That's usually when I try to rotate, from my lead side. What should I actually be doing?

  • @markbuonagura7746
    @markbuonagura7746 4 года назад +1

    excellent instruction. The very best instruction anywhere. Thank You

  • @13xXLionheartXx12
    @13xXLionheartXx12 4 года назад +1

    Thank you 👍

  • @manuelloza6169
    @manuelloza6169 4 года назад +1

    Any tips on how to engage my hips in the throw? I try and they just don't engage

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад

      Maybe try doing a slower/shorter run up until you get a better feel for it. Don't worry about just using your hips, your whole body will move together, so you may not notice the hip engagement during the throw. Just watch videos of yourself throwing to get an idea where you are

    • @manuelloza6169
      @manuelloza6169 4 года назад

      @@iamRedviper thanks

  • @hot_pony_unicorn
    @hot_pony_unicorn 4 года назад

    Can u explain the timing between the upper and lower body? Like where should my upper body be including my arm when my hips open up?

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад

      Short answer, your front knee should not go past your front pec. Your knee and pec should be pretty close to be in line with each other. Also the opposite is wrong, if your chest goes first l forward, but your hips/knee does not, you are throwing with your arm only.

  • @MrZexz
    @MrZexz 4 года назад

    Good information!
    I have a question about shoulder position. Should you shoulder be forward, pulled backwards, neutral? For me it feels "natural" to have my right shoulder (RHBH) kinda pushed forward. But just because it feels natural doesnt mean its right, any answer to this? :)
    Thanks!

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад

      Not sure i fully understand the question. You really shouldn't think about the shoulder at all. It will be where it needs to be if you do all of the other stuff with your body correctly.

    • @MrZexz
      @MrZexz 4 года назад

      @@iamRedviper Sorry, english isnt my mother tongue. If you pull your shoulderblades together your shoulder pulls backwards kinda. If you push them apart your shoulder move forward. Which of these positions is more optimal. Hope this helps! :)

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад

      In the middle. Not pulled back or pushed forward.

  • @MannyFacts
    @MannyFacts 3 года назад +1

    Thank you

  • @chapiiwin307
    @chapiiwin307 3 года назад +1

    Great thx

  • @markhumphrey8894
    @markhumphrey8894 3 года назад

    How can I get a video to you so you can shred my form!

  • @thomasproffitt4587
    @thomasproffitt4587 4 года назад

    Hi Rick, for your next videos introduce yourself and how well you play. That will build trust....

  • @TheSnuggler49
    @TheSnuggler49 3 года назад

    The whole pulling thing has me confused
    Ive been pulling my shots since ive started years ago and i just dont see how you get to the power pocket with out pulling the disc in

  • @7omni748
    @7omni748 3 года назад +1

    For some reason the pros know all this but all they usually teach is the throwing arm extension and release .
    They don't cover the hips and legs .

  • @mategajdacs
    @mategajdacs 3 года назад

    Wonderful video, wish the voice was fixed, but other than that, spot on

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  3 года назад +1

      Definitely some higher quality stuff coming out soon.

  • @songwriterck
    @songwriterck 4 года назад

    You should title this video, fundamental elements of a powerful backhand throw. Can you talk about the plant leg and how to brace and feel it? Still not quite sure what it’s supposed to do. Be straight? Bent?

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад +1

      Your back leg will not be straight. You need a slight bend in your knee and hips to be in a balanced athletic position. Just imagine storing all the power in the back leg and core of your body, then transferring all that energy forward through the rest of your body.

    • @songwriterck
      @songwriterck 4 года назад

      @@iamRedviper Sorry let me be more specific. I’m talking about the front leg (right leg for RHBH). When I watch you throw in another video, it looks like that leg plats at a slight bend but then in the middle of the throw goes completely straight at the knee.

    • @songwriterck
      @songwriterck 4 года назад

      @@iamRedviper Sorry for bombarding you with questions. I have one more. When I do the weight transfer, I notice that it takes a longer time than the hip turn. What is the timing of those two motions? Does the hip turn happen later in the weight transfer motion or at the beginning or somewhere in the middle? Do I need to do the weight transfer quicker? When I slow my form down, I notice the weight transfer happens first and as I’m about to finish the ransfer, my hips explode and turn suddenly just as the weight transfer is completing. Should my hips be initiating the weight transfer instead? Appreciate you responding and your helpful videos!

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад

      @@songwriterck it's kind of a complex answer. I don't know that there is a perfect way to plant your front leg. The main focus is not planting too early or transferring weight too early. I sometimes have to modify my plant a little because of a knee injury.

    • @krpi7685
      @krpi7685 4 года назад +1

      @@songwriterck If we are talking about a powerful drive: when your bracing leg stomps the ground ALL your weight is coming down on it at that moment. That's when the fastest portion of the hip turn is initiated as said stomp kicks your right hip to the side (this is the straightening of the leg that you mentioned).
      Coming through the x-step, all weight on back leg, lead leg reaches towards target -> big toe of lead leg touches ground -> back leg collapses by turning quickly inward, sending all weight towards lead leg -> plant foot catches all weight by stomping down (foot sideways to the target) -> this stomp kicks your right hip to the side, creating the desired rotation. Note that many straighten the leg while many don't. The hip being kicked to the side is the essential thing.
      To get the right feel for it it's good to remember that you're not just trying to spin for spinning's sake, you're trying to swing your weight.
      Before the weight transfer you can imagine all your weight being behind your left hip. As the plant, weight shift and rotation happen you're trying to swing all that weight past your plant foot on the left side. No, don't throw yourself forward, but feel that weight swinging forward because you turned those hips.
      Hope this helps but don't worry if it does't. Developing the right cues and feel for these things takes a lot of individual effort and what works for me might not work for you. Just keep at it.

  • @lvo_lvlercy9521
    @lvo_lvlercy9521 4 года назад +1

    For someone like me who arms everything and doesn't use my hips at all I can clearly see why i can't throw past 300 most of the time and why I always have arm injuries lol.

  • @discblaster9210
    @discblaster9210 4 года назад

    Thanks

  • @samhowl1152
    @samhowl1152 4 года назад +1

    Paige piece just did a video with Brodie on the backhand and she disagree with you on a couple of points.
    She advocates the hip thrust you said was wrong for instance.

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад +2

      That's exactly what was referencing in my video. The way she explained it is very confusing and not what is actually done in the throw.

    • @samhowl1152
      @samhowl1152 4 года назад +2

      @@iamRedviperI'll take the word of a 5x world champion who I know and have seen in real life throw over 500 feet. Out an I gonna take the word of some guy in the Internet who I've never seen throw? You can't say she's wrong. She outhrows you by a mile. Several other big form guys says the same. Seabass22, loopghost

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад +3

      @@samhowl1152 about to post a video. I definitely throw farther than her.

    • @samhowl1152
      @samhowl1152 4 года назад +1

      @@iamRedviper it is a lateral motion of the hips, sideways. Because your legs are split and your weight is distributed between them the lateral motion indirectly produces rotation, as the hips come forward and only rotate, again indirectly, as a product of the straight line forces, causing the hips, femur ect to lock out their range of motion, which is what causes the rotation, not you trying to spin the hips.

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад +2

      @@samhowl1152 i literally talk about the back hip driving forward down your line as your hips rotate in my video. I guess i am missing where the miscommunication is.

  • @wyvern274
    @wyvern274 4 года назад

    ooh that thing about locking the elbow looks really painful and hard to learn. (that you made towards the end of the video) y
    you seem to say a lot of reputable stuff and I wish I saw this video when I just started

  • @dwmichaels
    @dwmichaels 3 года назад

    Saw this (ruclips.net/video/NyWNCrxVzPU/видео.html) and then randomly happened to watch this video again. When you demo the baseball swing, you do point your toes forward. Based on what Donaldson is teaching, it's hip rotation, so pointing the toes doesn't see to be ruining his swing - perhaps it's a matter of timing vs toe placement? I have no idea. I suck, but I thought it was a curious observation :)

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  3 года назад

      Baseball is different than disc golf. Hips are closed when they lift their foot off the ground. They plant with toe forward because it's hard to rotate your foot with cleats on.

    • @dwmichaels
      @dwmichaels 3 года назад

      @@iamRedviper Excellent point, but if they can plant with the toe forward and still get hip rotation, why can't we? What is the benefit to the 90 degree placement for disc golfers? It seems we are planting and rotating while he is already rotating before he plants, plants open and everything else is almost the same between baseball & DG (in terms of lower/upper body sync & power).

  • @CraigsCuts
    @CraigsCuts 4 года назад +1

    Great video , the “pulling technique” is actually not the best way to learn

  • @ciromassa7322
    @ciromassa7322 4 года назад +1

    Great video bro. But I think your wrong on a few things. First, 100% of your weight should be on the front leg before you throw. Look up the 1 leg drill. Also, using the hips is not a twisting motion. You should be shifting weight laterally. Look up seabas22, he is the discgolf form master.

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад +7

      No offense, but what you are saying is wrong and counterintuitive. 100% weight on the front foot before the throw takes all the power away from your back leg which powers your shot.
      Your hips do twist during the shot if they didn't you would not generate any power. The weight shift itself is back to front yes, but the hips rotate the body.
      If you want to see some good form, watch some videos of Ezra Aderhold throwing. Paul mcbeth also has some of the best form in the game. Take a little more time observing them then watch my video again and you will see what i am talking about

    • @JohnDoe-ek4rg
      @JohnDoe-ek4rg 4 года назад

      @@iamRedviper I'm also not sure about the weight transfer (I'm not saying anyone is wrong but I'm just confused and looking for discussion and clarification). To me, if you watch Simon, Eagle or most pros, the disc basically stays on their back foot during their reachback as their body/weight is moving forward. So it looks like most of their weight shifts forward right as they plant the front foot just before pulling through, not as they are pulling through. Their torso is still centered between their legs the entire time like you were talking about staying centered.
      I really have enjoyed your form videos so far and I hope you will continue making them!

    • @iamRedviper
      @iamRedviper  4 года назад

      @@JohnDoe-ek4rg yeah, so the weight transfer happens every quickly. The main thing i am trying to say is that you don't want to start with your weight over your front foot. The second the front foot touches the ground the shot is starting and the weight transfer happens quickly.
      So you mentioned the pros staying centered, that's what you want to happen, the issue is when your body is over your front foot from the start of the shot.

    • @SirFlanery
      @SirFlanery 4 года назад

      IMO the confusion comes in with feel vs real. In reality, in slow motion frame by frame, no pro has weight on their back foot when they plant. But for someone who isn’t used to the backhand motion, it will feel like the weight stays back. You want your head and upper body to be closer to your back foot than your plant foot at the plant which will feel like “90% of weight on back foot” even though that’s not technically true. If your swing thought is getting 100% of your weight on the plant foot during your reach back, and you’re an amateur player, you’re probably going to have major problems. I can speak from experience there.

    • @ciromassa7322
      @ciromassa7322 4 года назад +2

      @@iamRedviper i don't think u understand what I'm talking about. All your weight should be on plant foot before you throw. Every pro does this

  • @KarmicPatina
    @KarmicPatina 4 года назад

    Nice….(don't nice me bro!)

  • @45blank16
    @45blank16 3 года назад

    Bump