Honestly at this point I'd be happy if they removed pleading and assimilation all together. It's made DMZ so toxic. 3 man squads, no pleas, back to the lobby. I bet people would think twice before just shooting everyone they see if they knew they couldn't get picked up. DMZ would be in a much better place.
If a team takes you out there's still a chance you can still come back. What's wrong with that. There's toxic players on the game regardless. If it was the other way around. You would probably ask for a pleading system
you can team up aswell, if you dont want to, its your choice..platoons are meta, remember (most effective tactics available) this apply not only to guns
@@captainrex2229 I understand u can die to anything in this game but getting pushed by a 6 man on final exfil ….. not much u can do. It’s not impossible but the odds are not in your favor. Idk how u solve the problem but I also don’t think about the game day in day out. I’d like to believe there’s some sort of solution !!!!
They shouldn't remove 6 man squads all together but maybe drop the max to 4 or 5 in Ashika. I do think they should be able to 6 man in Mazrah but maybe they could nerf the specialty armor satchels so that their specialty abilities don't work once a 5th or 6th person joins up. Maybe make it so their exfil streak perks don't work other than that idk how they could nerf 6mans realistically and reamin8ng fair
Maybe not mark exact location of 6man squads but maybe give alerts as to which POI they are entering. Or they could be marked the same way bounties and TempV powered enemies are but bigger.
100%. Only played two games after work last night and between the two games we had FOUR hunt squads on us. At one point I got separated from my teammates and literally swam from the river all the way north to Tariq village. The entirety of the map south to north. And they chased me the whole time but couldn’t find me. Absolutely feral. Plus the immediate 6 man push the first game. Debating if I want to jump into Saturday night dumpster fire or not, always sweaty as f on Saturday nights as is.
They definitely fail to resolve 6 man squad every patch. Let me explain step by step. The first problem was that people were using in-game chat before joining the game. For example, 2 squad is searching for a game at the same time. Once they find the game, they were just writing something like "hi" or "123" in lobby chat. If the other squad sees the message that means they are in the same game. Then they just hop on a car and create 6 man squad. To resolve this problem, they blocked lobby chat before joining the game. This change decreased 6 man squad 80% because they didn't know if they are in the same game. Then they did another change where we can see game ID before joining the game. That means if you and your other squad are in the same game, they would have same game ID. You just had to check it from bottom left side of the game. This made things even worse than before. Because before, when you see those "hi" or "123" chat in lobby, you would know that there is a 6 man squad and you would just leave the game before joining the game. Now, you don't even know if there is a 6 man squad. Then they did another change where players can plea, even whole squad is dead but you had limited time to do that. They aimed to prevent squad asimilation with this change. But it did not stop 6 man squads. By the way, I mean "pre-made 6 man squad". Not "natural" 6 man squad. Then they did another change where players can plea but if we accept their plea, they had 30 seconds to join the team. THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY USELESS CHANGE. BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T JOIN THEM, THEY CAN JUST RUN AWAY AND COME BACK LATER TO KILL US. Why would I accept anyone's plea and risk my game? Lastly, they did another change which made everything worse than ever. This change is absolutely game breaking change. Now, dead players can plea and you cannot stop their plea anymore. Which means if you kill a squad and they plea, you either accept their plea and let them join your team or you just leave them there. Anyone withing 600-700 range can come and accept their plea. Do you know what that means? Let me give you an example from today :) We went to Sawah with my 2 friends. We killed 2 different squads. One of them left the game and the other squad used plea "feature". Clearly we couldn't stop their plea and we didn't want to team up with them because we knew that they were premade 6 man squad. How do we know that? Simple. One of them had Jokr, the other one had shield. If you know DMZ a little bit, you would know that they are premade 6 man squad. Guess what happened? 3 players came to Sawah with JLTV. They ran to their body and accepted their plea request. Now, we were against 6 man squad. They did nothing. The player with Jokr sent his rockets randomly. 3 of them just rushed to our building and 2 of them just waited for us to peak from top or windows. Now, can someone explain this absolute retardness to me? WHO THE FUCK CAME UP WITH THIS BRILLIANT PLEA CHANGE IDEA? WHAT KIND OF LOW IQ ANALYST CAME UP WITH THIS STUPID IDEA? Almost 90% of the players either want to get rid of 6 man squad or they want them to have a disadvantage. I have no idea why they are doing those kind of changes.
I'm good with not removing 6-man squad.... but highlighting all 6-man squads in the lobby would be good. Might be a deterrent to the failed warzone players to wipe out lobbies and incentivize the rest of the lobby to take out platoons.
although i do very much agree with you, i also respectfully disagree, as these 6 man pre made death squads are so stacked with low moral, high skilled players, that 6 man platoons dont care that they are killing everyone else fun and progress, will drive this game mode into the ground, activision must find a solution quickly, either get rid of assimilation above 3 man squads all together, or just or just get rid of assimilation period, and if you die you take a trip back to the lobby and we have a fancy warzone mode. just my opinion again no disrespect to your opinion.
the problem with 4 man, is if i join your 3 man, it leaves the 2 i started with. this will never happen, nerf 6 man teams by making their 3-plate vests downgrade to a 2-plate, easy now with the special vests in game, ive been saying this since 6 man became a problem, other say no streaks for 6man either
@@badmoodswing1089not all of us live in our parents’ basements with no jobs. Most of us play the game to relax. The whole point of DMZ is to gear up and do missions. Killing players just to kill them is not the point of this mode.
I heard this person on ashika island saying and I quote “I just wanna become a 6 man” as they were trying to kill a different team. So I precision striked and downed 2 of them w it
The annoying thing about DMZ is that because of bad timing some really shit players can kill you when you are just going about doing your mission. This is why I just shoot on sight soon, tired of that shit. Fine with resing them of course, but have no interest to drive around hunting squad that some wants to. There's no prestige in that, most dmz players are trash.
The worst is when u get a dev error before even enfil and lose all your shit.i finally barter for a secure exfll went into al mazzy and lost all my gear before I was even in the game
I know PVP is part of the game but it's now the biggest part of the game. Maybe, they should nerf your health according the the amount of players in a team. I just don't understand the whole camping thing. That's boring to me.
I love this revive bit. Done this at least twice, reviving the entire team for a clean escape after being almost creamed by another team. One of my favorite places to escape are the water ways on either Al Mazrah or Vondel. Nobody has a pistol it seems. The plea system needs a little work. Maybe they reversed it back to its original form to work on a more refined version. I think the revived players should still have a choice whether to join the revivers team or not. As for 6-man squads, the 6-man seems overpowered. Yesterday I joined up with a group we beat at a fight, and we decided to enter the complex. We quite easily creamed the Rhino and sniper, despite our slapstick heroics. 6-mans should have penalties geared towards protecting the smaller teams, especially solos, or just abandon the 6-man concept. Or how about having a squad or 3 max, but two squads can join up. The other squad however gets no locations on downed team mates in the other squad, and only a general location overall on the other squad, similar to a hunt locator on the map. Maybe other penalties should apply as well.
I’m done with Cod and damn sure it’s over with this garbage DMZ! I was so ready to play DMZ this year and I’m forever over it due to 6 men kill squads.
Solo player here and as the guy on the northern side of the map with the ability to hit moving targets I agree with the 6 man squads. But then again I enjoy stopping teams for the sake of stopping teams.
Great video! This similar incident happened to me at ashika last week. 6 men team was farming/camping a dead teammate. We got super lucky and extracted on time.
This just makes people not to enjoy DMZ anymore and not want to play it anymore. I was a duo 3 minutes into the game got pushed killed and then camped by a 6 man team what’s the point in playing anymore makes you not want to help others as no1 helps you.
actually not, if so much platoons are showing up its because is meta and many loves it, i would agree a solo mode in dmz so all of you can get into the same lobby and do whatever you want
Warzone and DMZ’s biggest issue right now is the lack of balance. Some have to play solo so 1 v 6 is beyond stupid. If they want 6 man squads it should be a 6 v 6 mode, it’s as simple as that.
Idk man I think the change to where you can't pick up people you killed was great. I saw no six mans and now since they reverted it, it's basically a platoon lobby at this point.
Man, I hate the new system. With the old system, at least when the fight was over, most of the time the other team would pick you up and you would be part of their team. I also enjoyed tryna be friendly all the time but now, I gotta be an a-hole along with all the other a-holes since you can't pick up who you kill and then all the body campers now. Can't trust anyone anymore. Sucks so bad!!!
I can’t believe they reverted the plea system. Get rid of assimilation! Or at the very least let us track 6 man squads. Put a small red circle on the map where a 6 man is so we can avoid them or prepare to fight them.
This is deja vu. Happened to me almost exact same way. 6 man chase me all around map and camped My teammates bodies. Ended up getting person extol on Al Bhagra and was a couple seconds away from them getting me swimming towards when plane took off. So dumb
You know what would help add more missions, contacts, more things to do. Once you've unlocked your 3 insured slots there's really nothing to do imo. I get blueprints but i really only use a small set of custom guns. Or just get rid of 6 man assimilation.
Near impossible to get a mission done now. A plea is now a beacon for all of the kill squads. Or they kill someone and camp the plea. Time to play Battlebit.
great content as usual, you did the right thing, patients, persistence, and another successful exfil with the entire squad. i also think you are very correct, 6 man platoons are now going to get much worse, forced assimilation, and alot of players are not going to be able to get there missions completed because of the death squads. activision has tried everything else, accept just drop assimilation all together, make every 3 man squads or less, yes there will still be people affected by that but whats best for the longevity of this game mode is the bottom line here. just my short rant, and opinion, but who the hell am I?
@@Davidinostroza-ks5yq thats kind of a double edged sword sometimes i prefer to play solo instead of a pick up squad due to communication issues etc... you know the deal. i dont mind 6 mans as much myself its actually kind of exciting, but for most of the more casual players they just get roasted.
as long as you can form a 6 man squad it'll be top meta gameplay. Assimilation and the Plea system are the only problems i keep having when playing DMZ besides that its super fun
It’s not a meta strategy. If you form a 4 to 6 man and do anything but separate and collect items and do pve missions than you are a scumbag who sucks so bad at the game that you’re basically telling everyone: “hey I suck. Im a warzone washout that is so bad that I come to dmz to squad hunt with 4 to 6 mana because I cannot even cut it in a game mode like dmz without extra bodies holding my small peepee.
That’s why I think they should’ve only kept warzone free to play and make dmz a pay to play because the warzoners will leak over into dmz and cause havoc. Makes most of the missions and items pointless as well.
As a brand new player of 5 days people in this game suck! Minding my own business and I get hunted. I was leaving in the helicopter and 2 guys jumped in and killed me instead of just riding out with me.
I just dont see the point in reviving them at that point. They couldve already been in another raid geared up during that time they sat waiting just to exfil with a one plate
Just remove the plea system and the assimilation and put the gulag into DMZ/allow your team to buy you back like warzone. Sola you die just go back to the lobby. I don’t plea as a solo
@@Davidinostroza-ks5yq if BR had missions I would but that’s what’s fun about DMZ. I prefer to kill the pleas all together personally which is if I die I just head to the lobby.
Best way to counter that anger is to just remember it's a video game you already paid for, and can easily play another game. Wiped away a lot of my anger issues when I started dmz lol.
6 man is mostly composed of people who doesn’t have enough talent to play themselves. I really hate that. It should be decreased to max 4 or they should be seen on the map.
Hate the fact you can't cancel them. This has ruined almazrah for me ashika was already trash vondel is well on its way. I agree with you 100% massive problem. Remove the pleas
I’m anti 6 man because of its current state. I love pvp in DMZ and have at least 30 1v6 and plenty more 2 to 3 1v6s but the lack of cons a 4 to 6 man receives is mind boggling. The current game is the most pro 6 man the game has ever been. Not being able to cancel pleas helps 6 mana, not banning accounts who exploit and run premades is helping 6 mans, the bots that hunt you hurt 1 to 3 man squads that are defensive killing or just good at pvp because their kills are counting just the same as everyone else on the map. My suggestion is adding people to your squad results as stacked negative “perks.” For example, you add a 4th and you cannot pick up hunt contracts. You add 5 and you cannot pick up hunt contracts and the lose the ability to pick or or craft specialized three plates. If you add 6 to your squad then all of the previous things plus the squad hunt bots go after you and everyone is notified that a 6 man is near when they are 100 Meters within players. Adding negative perks like this will allow for a more balanced game and make people think twice about adding players to solely hunt instead of using it as it was intended which was to get help completing difficult missions. I believe the 6 man feature was generally map for trash players to all get together and help each other activate 5 UAV towers at the same time. It’s sad but if activision continues down this path then I will not be buying their content anymore and playing this game mode which I truly did enjoy.
I pleaded and got the notification that someone was coming. I waited. 3 guys came shot at me while I laid there then looted me and took off. Is pleading now just a regain for assholes. Also I love you content. You seem like a regular guy.
Thats why I never plea. Fuck giving my shit to anyone. If they find it, keep it but i’m not making it easy. I’ve had it happen every time. Loot and leave.
I had a game the other day, my team went to fight this other team, got downed, I went to rez, got downed, pleaded and waited, got the “an operator is coming” message… Ended up being this Chinese solo-man who managed to sneak in between this gun fight to rez me. He offered me to join him so I did, tried to sneak over to my team to get them to squad up but I guess they either moved on or were weary of joining another team so we just slunk outta there and got to exfil.
I've personally rolled up on pleads to help and rez and been taken out cuz somebody was either camping the bodies or they booby trapped them with mines and claymores had a team even plant c4 and hide out nearby and trigger it when I laid to rez
Speaking of plea system. I think they went back to old plea system. I took out the guys with weapons case near extraction zone today. Then I felt bad and res all 3 I've killed. We all got credit for a weapon case. 😅
Here is simpler thing they can do put a location markers wherever platoons r formed n track them as well like how hunt contract does. If they could add on to dat they will have additional lv3 Armour bots hunting them down
at least x2 rebreather and stims with a pistol is extremely OP majority of the time they'll jump in the water to try fight and you can literally live underwater so yh try it its especially OP on Vondel
6 Main hunting players is killing DMZ. Got so far whole week 6 man squads just hunting players killing them and moving on not even looting you. And then they camp the body's to. Still say to please every body they need to (like thy do with multiplayer maps) have the option for solo, 3 man squad and 6 man squad dmz. Then those who only do 6man have it from the start and make it equal as other teams will also be 6 man squads.
Mate I did 4 koschei runs last night never have I ever met players in the factory wing every time I entered I died to a 6 man IN FACTORY WING I was solo...
Maybe it's different for ps4 but I still can't pick up people I've finished? They plea but I can't revive them no matter how much I click or hold. I've even tried changing "pick up" settings
They need to make it so subordinate can revive, but you get to choose if you assimilate or stay with your group. Making you have to assimilate is terrible, and no canceling, heck allot won't plea I would assume. I won't, don't want to be a 6 man killing squad
If they want to keep DMZ competitive they should make penalties for 5 and 6 man teams!! 6 man should only have SINGLE PLATES and NO KILLSTREAKS…5 man teams DOUBLE PLATES and NO KILLSTREAKS… I guess 4 man THREE PLATES but NO KILLSTREAKS… I think that is the ONLY WAY to keep it balanced and make it more enjoyable…
Take it out completely, there's no gear fear in the game with pleads, self revives, and the wallet. You can bring in money and regain in less than a minute. Also if you need to be on a six man to wipe squads its a skill issue.
I fully Understand it's a pvp game, but it's getting out of hand. Only thing i can really think of to do is make an option to turn pvp off before the match and allow people to co op pve. Only way to turn pvp on in game is to activate a hunt squad mission. Once the hunt mission has been activated you can not turn back you are open to pvp. It would have to be fully voted into effect by the whole team.
Go back to your secure bag strategy, stealth,coms and large bag. GG’s dude 🤙 I’m not a fan of 6mans but don’t want them removed. Liked it that as a solo I could pick up people and leave not having them on my squad, but hey whatever.
Not allowing six man teams would remove all incentive to be friendly. It will be PvP ONLY! Shoot first and not even think to talk. Shoot the first man you see so he doesn't shoot you later. the plea changes never stopped pre-made squads, it just made it harder to protect against them. I liked the auto add to team but I wouldn't be mad if they gave you the option to pick up people without them joining too, as long as I can choose auto add. That way you can rescue folks or build protective squad. Al Mazrah is a really big map, it is plenty big for six man teams. Honestly they should make a mode or map where pre-made six mans are part of the game so you can play with more than 2 friends.
if you feel like a hero you might find a team most likely there, 6 man squad its the way to go, if you kill, pick up, loot and make sure you keep your loot, its understandable your point of view, but beign able to form a 6 man squad is a nice way new players can have some advantage, everybody can make a 6 man squad..if you dont want to its your option, dont force it on everybody else
Yeah 6 man’s take the fun out of DMZ. How about I was playing last night with some randoms, they ended up getting killed then they started calling out my position to the other team. Why would teammates give away their team’s position like that?
Honestly at this point I'd be happy if they removed pleading and assimilation all together. It's made DMZ so toxic. 3 man squads, no pleas, back to the lobby. I bet people would think twice before just shooting everyone they see if they knew they couldn't get picked up. DMZ would be in a much better place.
Lol
Agreed
If a team takes you out there's still a chance you can still come back. What's wrong with that. There's toxic players on the game regardless. If it was the other way around. You would probably ask for a pleading system
Need to remove 6man trash. There is zero reason to have 6v3 throughout the maps.
you can team up aswell, if you dont want to, its your choice..platoons are meta, remember (most effective tactics available) this apply not only to guns
6 man squad a not a problem if you are somewhat good at DMZ.
@@captainrex2229 I understand u can die to anything in this game but getting pushed by a 6 man on final exfil ….. not much u can do. It’s not impossible but the odds are not in your favor. Idk how u solve the problem but I also don’t think about the game day in day out. I’d like to believe there’s some sort of solution !!!!
They shouldn't remove 6 man squads all together but maybe drop the max to 4 or 5 in Ashika. I do think they should be able to 6 man in Mazrah but maybe they could nerf the specialty armor satchels so that their specialty abilities don't work once a 5th or 6th person joins up. Maybe make it so their exfil streak perks don't work other than that idk how they could nerf 6mans realistically and reamin8ng fair
Maybe not mark exact location of 6man squads but maybe give alerts as to which POI they are entering. Or they could be marked the same way bounties and TempV powered enemies are but bigger.
100%. Only played two games after work last night and between the two games we had FOUR hunt squads on us. At one point I got separated from my teammates and literally swam from the river all the way north to Tariq village. The entirety of the map south to north. And they chased me the whole time but couldn’t find me. Absolutely feral. Plus the immediate 6 man push the first game. Debating if I want to jump into Saturday night dumpster fire or not, always sweaty as f on Saturday nights as is.
They definitely fail to resolve 6 man squad every patch. Let me explain step by step.
The first problem was that people were using in-game chat before joining the game. For example, 2 squad is searching for a game at the same time. Once they find the game, they were just writing something like "hi" or "123" in lobby chat. If the other squad sees the message that means they are in the same game. Then they just hop on a car and create 6 man squad. To resolve this problem, they blocked lobby chat before joining the game. This change decreased 6 man squad 80% because they didn't know if they are in the same game.
Then they did another change where we can see game ID before joining the game. That means if you and your other squad are in the same game, they would have same game ID. You just had to check it from bottom left side of the game. This made things even worse than before. Because before, when you see those "hi" or "123" chat in lobby, you would know that there is a 6 man squad and you would just leave the game before joining the game. Now, you don't even know if there is a 6 man squad.
Then they did another change where players can plea, even whole squad is dead but you had limited time to do that. They aimed to prevent squad asimilation with this change. But it did not stop 6 man squads. By the way, I mean "pre-made 6 man squad". Not "natural" 6 man squad.
Then they did another change where players can plea but if we accept their plea, they had 30 seconds to join the team. THIS WAS ABSOLUTELY USELESS CHANGE. BECAUSE IF THEY DON'T JOIN THEM, THEY CAN JUST RUN AWAY AND COME BACK LATER TO KILL US. Why would I accept anyone's plea and risk my game?
Lastly, they did another change which made everything worse than ever. This change is absolutely game breaking change. Now, dead players can plea and you cannot stop their plea anymore. Which means if you kill a squad and they plea, you either accept their plea and let them join your team or you just leave them there. Anyone withing 600-700 range can come and accept their plea. Do you know what that means? Let me give you an example from today :)
We went to Sawah with my 2 friends. We killed 2 different squads. One of them left the game and the other squad used plea "feature". Clearly we couldn't stop their plea and we didn't want to team up with them because we knew that they were premade 6 man squad. How do we know that? Simple. One of them had Jokr, the other one had shield. If you know DMZ a little bit, you would know that they are premade 6 man squad. Guess what happened? 3 players came to Sawah with JLTV. They ran to their body and accepted their plea request. Now, we were against 6 man squad. They did nothing. The player with Jokr sent his rockets randomly. 3 of them just rushed to our building and 2 of them just waited for us to peak from top or windows.
Now, can someone explain this absolute retardness to me? WHO THE FUCK CAME UP WITH THIS BRILLIANT PLEA CHANGE IDEA? WHAT KIND OF LOW IQ ANALYST CAME UP WITH THIS STUPID IDEA?
Almost 90% of the players either want to get rid of 6 man squad or they want them to have a disadvantage. I have no idea why they are doing those kind of changes.
I'm good with not removing 6-man squad.... but highlighting all 6-man squads in the lobby would be good.
Might be a deterrent to the failed warzone players to wipe out lobbies and incentivize the rest of the lobby to take out platoons.
although i do very much agree with you, i also respectfully disagree, as these 6 man pre made death squads are so stacked with low moral, high skilled players, that 6 man platoons dont care that they are killing everyone else fun and progress, will drive this game mode into the ground, activision must find a solution quickly, either get rid of assimilation above 3 man squads all together, or just or just get rid of assimilation period, and if you die you take a trip back to the lobby and we have a fancy warzone mode. just my opinion again no disrespect to your opinion.
I really liked the plea system before they changed it. I think it should be for a max squad of 4.
Agreed🙏😎
3 max
the problem with 4 man, is if i join your 3 man, it leaves the 2 i started with. this will never happen, nerf 6 man teams by making their 3-plate vests downgrade to a 2-plate, easy now with the special vests in game, ive been saying this since 6 man became a problem, other say no streaks for 6man either
@@devinburkett9036 random 6 man teams sure, pre-made will rinse and repeat you no doubt
I hate it when doing missions as a solo that I end up being hunted by 6 man teams.
Get good at the game then😂
@@badmoodswing1089he never said he wasn’t good at the game… Some of you are so smart til your dumb
@@badmoodswing1089twat
@@richardwaugh930 take a joke
@@badmoodswing1089not all of us live in our parents’ basements with no jobs. Most of us play the game to relax. The whole point of DMZ is to gear up and do missions. Killing players just to kill them is not the point of this mode.
The thing i hate most about 6 mans is that they usually have an ltv and they will stack on one person then start shit talking.
I heard this person on ashika island saying and I quote “I just wanna become a 6 man” as they were trying to kill a different team. So I precision striked and downed 2 of them w it
This is really getting silly now and agree max squad of 4 is what should be allowed!
Maybe they could make it so solos can't be hunted, so only teams can hunt other teams, 9 out of 10 solos are there for contracts and missions.
They should significantly increase the price of the LTV..this is real madness
Its so easy for these squads to spawn and straight away buy an ltv out of the wallet
The annoying thing about DMZ is that because of bad timing some really shit players can kill you when you are just going about doing your mission. This is why I just shoot on sight soon, tired of that shit. Fine with resing them of course, but have no interest to drive around hunting squad that some wants to. There's no prestige in that, most dmz players are trash.
I feel if you become a 6 man you all should be perma pinged on the map to give smaller squads an advantage
Tested it out, played 10 games today, pushed towards all pleas.....and a 4-6 mam CAMPING every plea group. Needless to say, they wiped me too😅
In season one dmz 12 people platoon. It got super lag but it was fun.
I lost more gear to server issues than I have 6 man or pvp in general this season
The worst is when u get a dev error before even enfil and lose all your shit.i finally barter for a secure exfll went into al mazzy and lost all my gear before I was even in the game
I know PVP is part of the game but it's now the biggest part of the game. Maybe, they should nerf your health according the the amount of players in a team. I just don't understand the whole camping thing. That's boring to me.
I love this revive bit. Done this at least twice, reviving the entire team for a clean escape after being almost creamed by another team. One of my favorite places to escape are the water ways on either Al Mazrah or Vondel. Nobody has a pistol it seems.
The plea system needs a little work. Maybe they reversed it back to its original form to work on a more refined version. I think the revived players should still have a choice whether to join the revivers team or not.
As for 6-man squads, the 6-man seems overpowered. Yesterday I joined up with a group we beat at a fight, and we decided to enter the complex. We quite easily creamed the Rhino and sniper, despite our slapstick heroics. 6-mans should have penalties geared towards protecting the smaller teams, especially solos, or just abandon the 6-man concept. Or how about having a squad or 3 max, but two squads can join up. The other squad however gets no locations on downed team mates in the other squad, and only a general location overall on the other squad, similar to a hunt locator on the map. Maybe other penalties should apply as well.
6 men that just come to do missions and not die to platoons fair enough but a platoon coming to just kill squads of 3 is just pathetic 😂
I'm always using the keep moving method.
You know everything was fine until plead has been changed after update. And now we're screwed
I’m done with Cod and damn sure it’s over with this garbage DMZ! I was so ready to play DMZ this year and I’m forever over it due to 6 men kill squads.
Solo player here and as the guy on the northern side of the map with the ability to hit moving targets I agree with the 6 man squads. But then again I enjoy stopping teams for the sake of stopping teams.
Great video!
This similar incident happened to me at ashika last week.
6 men team was farming/camping a dead teammate. We got super lucky and extracted on time.
This just makes people not to enjoy DMZ anymore and not want to play it anymore. I was a duo 3 minutes into the game got pushed killed and then camped by a 6 man team what’s the point in playing anymore makes you not want to help others as no1 helps you.
actually not, if so much platoons are showing up its because is meta and many loves it, i would agree a solo mode in dmz so all of you can get into the same lobby and do whatever you want
DMZ devs need to nerf six men teams and reversed changes that they did to plea system and found better way to nerf six men teams
Warzone and DMZ’s biggest issue right now is the lack of balance. Some have to play solo so 1 v 6 is beyond stupid. If they want 6 man squads it should be a 6 v 6 mode, it’s as simple as that.
I'd be in favor of removing 6 man's with also removing the ability to do hunt squads once assimilated with any amount of players.
Idk man I think the change to where you can't pick up people you killed was great. I saw no six mans and now since they reverted it, it's basically a platoon lobby at this point.
Yesterday my 3 man came across 3 separate platoons only 1 was a defo 6 man in the same map on al mazrah
Tank Dempsey's 4th wall breaking quotes are more relevant with Infinity Ward than Treyarch at this point.
Man, I hate the new system. With the old system, at least when the fight was over, most of the time the other team would pick you up and you would be part of their team. I also enjoyed tryna be friendly all the time but now, I gotta be an a-hole along with all the other a-holes since you can't pick up who you kill and then all the body campers now. Can't trust anyone anymore. Sucks so bad!!!
I can’t believe they reverted the plea system. Get rid of assimilation! Or at the very least let us track 6 man squads. Put a small red circle on the map where a 6 man is so we can avoid them or prepare to fight them.
The plea system shouldn't be taken out of the game entirely. There is no reason a team of 6 can gang up on a solo or a team of 3 doesn't make sense
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I had a team yesterday camping our bodies the entire match all the way into the storm. They had no intentions of leaving that game alive I guess?
just completely remove it, we are fine without it
got chased by a premade 6man in al mazrah, they were literally just flying around in a helicopter killing players…
i often get lucky for a self revive in those toilets where you came ashore
they camp my teammates with rad blockers and durables 💀
This is deja vu. Happened to me almost exact same way. 6 man chase me all around map and camped
My teammates bodies. Ended up getting person extol on Al Bhagra and was a couple seconds away from them getting me swimming towards when plane took off. So dumb
You know what would help add more missions, contacts, more things to do. Once you've unlocked your 3 insured slots there's really nothing to do imo. I get blueprints but i really only use a small set of custom guns. Or just get rid of 6 man assimilation.
Near impossible to get a mission done now. A plea is now a beacon for all of the kill squads. Or they kill someone and camp the plea. Time to play Battlebit.
great content as usual, you did the right thing, patients, persistence, and another successful exfil with the entire squad. i also think you are very correct, 6 man platoons are now going to get much worse, forced assimilation, and alot of players are not going to be able to get there missions completed because of the death squads. activision has tried everything else, accept just drop assimilation all together, make every 3 man squads or less, yes there will still be people affected by that but whats best for the longevity of this game mode is the bottom line here. just my short rant, and opinion, but who the hell am I?
just team up, thats the way to go, platoons are meta, deal with it
@@Davidinostroza-ks5yq thats kind of a double edged sword sometimes i prefer to play solo instead of a pick up squad due to communication issues etc... you know the deal. i dont mind 6 mans as much myself its actually kind of exciting, but for most of the more casual players they just get roasted.
as long as you can form a 6 man squad it'll be top meta gameplay. Assimilation and the Plea system are the only problems i keep having when playing DMZ besides that its super fun
It’s not a meta strategy. If you form a 4 to 6 man and do anything but separate and collect items and do pve missions than you are a scumbag who sucks so bad at the game that you’re basically telling everyone: “hey I suck. Im a warzone washout that is so bad that I come to dmz to squad hunt with 4 to 6 mana because I cannot even cut it in a game mode like dmz without extra bodies holding my small peepee.
I really don't understand why people like that aren't just playing warzone. Like really what's the point?
That’s why I think they should’ve only kept warzone free to play and make dmz a pay to play because the warzoners will leak over into dmz and cause havoc. Makes most of the missions and items pointless as well.
As a brand new player of 5 days people in this game suck! Minding my own business and I get hunted. I was leaving in the helicopter and 2 guys jumped in and killed me instead of just riding out with me.
Just need to drop assimilation. I also grab rad blocker whenever I see that I'm going to be fighting the gas as well. Clutch plays though.
Agreed
I just dont see the point in reviving them at that point. They couldve already been in another raid geared up during that time they sat waiting just to exfil with a one plate
Good point, well made 👌👏
Just remove the plea system and the assimilation and put the gulag into DMZ/allow your team to buy you back like warzone. Sola you die just go back to the lobby. I don’t plea as a solo
😂😂😂😂 just go to BR man
@@Davidinostroza-ks5yq if BR had missions I would but that’s what’s fun about DMZ. I prefer to kill the pleas all together personally which is if I die I just head to the lobby.
DMZ is no fun any more.great vid bud,.//.,
I got plea baited by a squad yesterday. I was f#%^*+ pissed to say the least.
Best way to counter that anger is to just remember it's a video game you already paid for, and can easily play another game. Wiped away a lot of my anger issues when I started dmz lol.
6 man is mostly composed of people who doesn’t have enough talent to play themselves. I really hate that. It should be decreased to max 4 or they should be seen on the map.
Hate the fact you can't cancel them. This has ruined almazrah for me ashika was already trash vondel is well on its way. I agree with you 100% massive problem. Remove the pleas
I’m anti 6 man because of its current state. I love pvp in DMZ and have at least 30 1v6 and plenty more 2 to 3 1v6s but the lack of cons a 4 to 6 man receives is mind boggling. The current game is the most pro 6 man the game has ever been. Not being able to cancel pleas helps 6 mana, not banning accounts who exploit and run premades is helping 6 mans, the bots that hunt you hurt 1 to 3 man squads that are defensive killing or just good at pvp because their kills are counting just the same as everyone else on the map. My suggestion is adding people to your squad results as stacked negative “perks.” For example, you add a 4th and you cannot pick up hunt contracts. You add 5 and you cannot pick up hunt contracts and the lose the ability to pick or or craft specialized three plates. If you add 6 to your squad then all of the previous things plus the squad hunt bots go after you and everyone is notified that a 6 man is near when they are 100
Meters within players. Adding negative perks like this will allow for a more balanced game and make people think twice about adding players to solely hunt instead of using it as it was intended which was to get help completing difficult missions. I believe the 6 man feature was generally map for trash players to all get together and help each other activate 5 UAV towers at the same time. It’s sad but if activision continues down this path then I will not be buying their content anymore and playing this game mode which I truly did enjoy.
4 man max squads with the option on start up @begining squad fill -to pick between joining solo,dual,triple,or quad teams
Every time i die in DMZ im gonna play this to my killer"you stupid pricks!!! my beautiful house look what you've done to it".
i had a team of 12 chinese in my lobby. they had unlimited killstreaks. we were on a 12kill game
I agree mate, terrible situation on dmz! Flea campers
I pleaded and got the notification that someone was coming. I waited. 3 guys came shot at me while I laid there then looted me and took off. Is pleading now just a regain for assholes. Also I love you content. You seem like a regular guy.
Thats why I never plea.
Fuck giving my shit to anyone.
If they find it, keep it but i’m not making it easy. I’ve had it happen every time.
Loot and leave.
I had a game the other day, my team went to fight this other team, got downed, I went to rez, got downed, pleaded and waited, got the “an operator is coming” message…
Ended up being this Chinese solo-man who managed to sneak in between this gun fight to rez me. He offered me to join him so I did, tried to sneak over to my team to get them to squad up but I guess they either moved on or were weary of joining another team so we just slunk outta there and got to exfil.
I've personally rolled up on pleads to help and rez and been taken out cuz somebody was either camping the bodies or they booby trapped them with mines and claymores had a team even plant c4 and hide out nearby and trigger it when I laid to rez
Speaking of plea system. I think they went back to old plea system.
I took out the guys with weapons case near extraction zone today.
Then I felt bad and res all 3 I've killed. We all got credit for a weapon case. 😅
And this is why you are one of the best!
we run on 6 man team in ltv almost every game
Here is simpler thing they can do put a location markers wherever platoons r formed n track them as well like how hunt contract does. If they could add on to dat they will have additional lv3 Armour bots hunting them down
The simplest way to deal with this is to remove assimilation.
Assimilation needs to be removed. Period. Hunt squad bounties need to be removed, this isn’t a br.
Personal opinion the old plea system was so much better!
at least x2 rebreather and stims with a pistol is extremely OP majority of the time they'll jump in the water to try fight and you can literally live underwater so yh try it its especially OP on Vondel
6 man is good for getting a lot or hard missions done but the Hunters are making this game impossible and not worth playing.
6 Main hunting players is killing DMZ. Got so far whole week 6 man squads just hunting players killing them and moving on not even looting you. And then they camp the body's to.
Still say to please every body they need to (like thy do with multiplayer maps) have the option for solo, 3 man squad and 6 man squad dmz. Then those who only do 6man have it from the start and make it equal as other teams will also be 6 man squads.
Mate I did 4 koschei runs last night never have I ever met players in the factory wing every time I entered I died to a 6 man IN FACTORY WING I was solo...
Maybe it's different for ps4 but I still can't pick up people I've finished? They plea but I can't revive them no matter how much I click or hold. I've even tried changing "pick up" settings
22 min of how he ran back to save them 😅
They need to make it so subordinate can revive, but you get to choose if you assimilate or stay with your group. Making you have to assimilate is terrible, and no canceling, heck allot won't plea I would assume. I won't, don't want to be a 6 man killing squad
DMZ is broken because of these 6 man pre made teams hunting everyone on the map. Why don't they just play resurgent if they want to do that?
That's definitely unnecessary I can not stand players that act like that when they get into six man teams.
this just made me anti assimilation altogether now🤦🏾♂️
Can't believe they changed it back bloody mad they are
If they want to keep DMZ competitive they should make penalties for 5 and 6 man teams!! 6 man should only have SINGLE PLATES and NO KILLSTREAKS…5 man teams DOUBLE PLATES and NO KILLSTREAKS… I guess 4 man THREE PLATES but NO KILLSTREAKS… I think that is the ONLY WAY to keep it balanced and make it more enjoyable…
Take it out completely, there's no gear fear in the game with pleads, self revives, and the wallet. You can bring in money and regain in less than a minute.
Also if you need to be on a six man to wipe squads its a skill issue.
Well said sir
@@filibertosalinas6816 thanks man! I'm just hoping season 5 fixes it up more, it's a really fun game mode. This last update was brutal though lol
thats why i play solo and dont pick anyone up because of body campers
I hate the ple system and they need to get rid of it entirely
I'm starting to see it more and more on NA servers now. I used to not run into them that much but it's been bad lately
I fully Understand it's a pvp game, but it's getting out of hand. Only thing i can really think of to do is make an option to turn pvp off before the match and allow people to co op pve. Only way to turn pvp on in game is to activate a hunt squad mission. Once the hunt mission has been activated you can not turn back you are open to pvp. It would have to be fully voted into effect by the whole team.
Go back to your secure bag strategy, stealth,coms and large bag. GG’s dude 🤙
I’m not a fan of 6mans but don’t want them removed. Liked it that as a solo I could pick up people and leave not having them on my squad, but hey whatever.
You should only be able to plea once your whole team is dead
Not allowing six man teams would remove all incentive to be friendly. It will be PvP ONLY! Shoot first and not even think to talk. Shoot the first man you see so he doesn't shoot you later. the plea changes never stopped pre-made squads, it just made it harder to protect against them. I liked the auto add to team but I wouldn't be mad if they gave you the option to pick up people without them joining too, as long as I can choose auto add. That way you can rescue folks or build protective squad. Al Mazrah is a really big map, it is plenty big for six man teams. Honestly they should make a mode or map where pre-made six mans are part of the game so you can play with more than 2 friends.
9 out of 10 runs I do this seems to happen.
Big cloud expected, small rain out of it. Wasted time here.
I don't like it at just have 4 man squad I don't know great video
I believe in 6 Man squads but it makes you feel better when you annihilate they azz 🙌🏾 but bad when you get back to the lobby 😅😂😂😂🤦🏿♂️
Dude I think I played with you before 😅 -CuthroatGeff
6 man teams need to go. As well as the ability to buy an turret ltv as soon as the game starts. At least make them wait for 5 minutes.
if you feel like a hero you might find a team most likely there, 6 man squad its the way to go, if you kill, pick up, loot and make sure you keep your loot, its understandable your point of view, but beign able to form a 6 man squad is a nice way new players can have some advantage, everybody can make a 6 man squad..if you dont want to its your option, dont force it on everybody else
All I do is hunt squads lol 😂 snipe the shit out of them and get in on every 3rd party chance I get
so fucking sad. Who the hell came up with the idea that 6 man team was a good thing? Have they never played a game online?
al mazrah nowdays are very toxic... this 6 man team hunt player a very much out of control...
There’s really no point of picking them up since all their loot is gone bro lol
Yeah 6 man’s take the fun out of DMZ. How about I was playing last night with some randoms, they ended up getting killed then they started calling out my position to the other team. Why would teammates give away their team’s position like that?