@@justinth83 The advantage of S72 is that it has the most frictional on large holds. The disadvantage is that it is less stable on small holds. The S72 rubber is as durable as Vibram rubber of the same thickness. -AD
Coming from my Tarantulaces, these shoes are an incredible upgrade. They conform to your feet brilliantly and it doesn't feel like your torturing yourself while wearing them.
I've been selling climbing shoes for a solid decade now, and this generation of the Scarpa Veloce that's marketed as a beginner shoe is so incredibly different from the concept of "beginner shoe" that we've long held. So I very much appreciate what a good job he did explaining the ins and outs of this shoe, and, the WHY's of its various design features. We'll see how well it sells, but in the mean time: Way to go Scarpa for thinking outside the box when creating this newest Veloce!
@@Paul-wy6tn The best portion of the Veloce is that it's not really only a beginner shoe. If you're a beginner and you're on almost your street shoe size with them, just go half a size maybe a full size smaller and you have a really comfy shoe that does pretty well in intermediate to advanced areas. I seriously love it. Only recently I've expanded to Instinct VSR and Drago (which I couldn't try yet).
@@HiImBQ I'm looking for a second pair after the tarantulas and was thinking of buying the VSR, but I just watched this video. Which one would be better for a intermediate indoor climber?
@@lijbDFYGUOQ depends if you go outdoor climbing or not. If you do almost only indoor, go for the Veloce! If you want to lead climb outdoor, go for Vapor V. If you are an addicted boulderer that has outdoor boulder project go for the Instinct VSR. But first try them and be sure they fit you !
I have the lace version of this. Love the shoe and use it for everything beside my hardest projects (for this i use a LS Theory). The performance is really good and at the same time it is the most comfortable climbing shoe i ever had. Thank you Scarpa. I had never expected that such a good shoe can be so comfy!
interesting. I train in beginner shoes(Helix) and project in aggressive shoes (instincts). I prefer to train in beginner shoes for the comfort, which extends how long I climb, and think it adds the training by increasing the difficulty. However lack of performance could increase the chance of injury and better performance is more fun and encouraging, also important. Either way Love Scarpa and would love to try these.
I totally recommend this shoe. I dont even consider it a begginer shoe, or even exclusively a gym shoe, Ive been climbing for many years, and sent some of my hardest boulders and routes outside with them. They are my most reliable all rounder
Awesome! I would agree that the Veloce is a much more capable shoe than most people give it credit for. Thanks for the constructive comments and sharing with the community!
Thanks for sharing your experience! Obviously trying on the shoes is the only way see if they work for your feet but having information like this is super helpful!
I've been regularly climbing for 8+ years and wore several different shoes over the years. I just picked up a pair of these yesterday, as my first ever soft shoe because the price point was low enough that I'm not too worried if I go through the rubber quickly. I've climbed in them once so far, which isn't enough for a review, but so far I like the fit and finish; they're really comfortable. I'm normally a size 41 or 42 and ended up getting a size 39 in the Low Volume model, so I recommend trying them on before buying.. and sizing down as much as you can. I was able to climb everything I would normally climb in my previous pair of shoes which were much more aggressively downturned and stiff, with just as much confidence so I'm optimistic the Veloce's will perform well for me. For reference, my previous shoes were So iLL Free Range, but resoled with 5.10 rubber.
i finally got around to trying bouldering and loved it, probably because it went allot better then i tough it would. and didn't take a master mind to realise how bad the rental shoes was. so here i am trying to find a solid pair i can use for a while :D
So psyched you enjoyed climbing!!! Be careful, it can take over your life :) I think there is only 1 piece of advice I would suggest for a new-ish climber. Get a shoe that is comfortable when tight. Try on as many pairs as you can. The Veloce could be a great place to start, but it's all about fit. Too many people buy shoes that are not comfortable so they have to size up. It's much better to have a shoe that isn't the popular option but fits than have a shoe that everyone says is great but doesn't fit. The performance comes down to how your feet interact with the shoe and no single model can fit everyone and only you can decide if it's the right fit for you, so don't let sales people convince you to get a shoe that isn't comfy when tight. cheers! -Andreas U
Absolutely can’t wait to get some of these for cruising gym routes. Tried on a pre-production pair and was instantly in love. I generally wear Aleon or Kataki for gym sessions and these look like a great blend of what I love about both shoes for casual climbing.
I'm looking for an upgrade from my Sportiva finale vs (men) and the veloce look awesome! somehow i feel the label beginner shoe is picked wrong.. they feel more like a high performance all rounder shoe that has comfort in mind.. i'm kinda worried about sizing tho.. for my finale vs i just took my normal shoe size and they fit nice, but i think they are a bit too loose after breaking in.. i have 42.5 for the finale, should i get 42 or 41.5? for the veloce? :/
Looking forward to these! $120 is a great price point -- my go to recommendation to new climbers has always been the Sportiva Finales. 5mm of XS Edge for $110...lots of durability. The soft 4mm rubber will definitely be noticeably less durable but hopefully it'll hold its value through its more modern features.
I just picked up a pair, and I'm normally a 10.5 us street shoe. I went with a 9.5 for the veloce. And I don't know if they're just to small, (I have some tarantulaces that are 8.5 which fit perfectly now and never hurt) but the veloced are extremely painful especially on my left foot. The big toe knuckle, and my pinky toe knuckle feel like they're getting crushed. I'm not sure if I need to maybe size up a half size, or if maybe this shape of shoe just isn't for me. My right foot is slightly painful. But not near as bad as the left. Can I expect them to stretch a bit? The leather on the tarantulace stretch alot, but these are all synthetic
I would not expect them to stretch to the point where you'd actually want to wear them. Definitely go up in size. And if that doesn't make them awesome, the last shape just isn't for your foot. Every shoe will work amazingly well for some people, and not at all for others. Size is the first consideration, but if the shape was a perfect fit for your foot, even going down a half size shouldn't cause as much discomfort as you're reporting.
These shoes look great for beginners! It doesn't surprise me that Scarpa are the first to market a soft, moderately downturned, slightly asymmetric shoe for beginners. I've always believed beginners should wear soft shoes so that they not only develop foot/toe strength but so that they can really feel their feet working when in contact with plastic/rock for better precision. The usual beginner shoe may have the durability of thick rubber (though usually cheap material and not very sticky), but it's just terrible for developing better footwork and when they eventually go for a more aggressive shoe as their second pair, their toes usually can't handle the soft rubber, midsole (or lack of), asymmetry and are in pain, because their beginner shoes didn't prepare them well enough. I've always recommended soft slippers for beginners like Evolv Addict, 5.10 Moccasym, Instinct SR, Tenaya Oasi. Some of those shoes are considered advanced because they're super soft and downturned, but they're not super downturned and don't have high asymmetry. The only downside here is that they're expensive than usual beginner shoes. Stiff, flat, thick rubber beginner shoes are a total waste of time if you're starting climbing in a gym. Soft shoes are the way for indoor climbers, beginners and pros alike!
Seems like you and SCARPA are on exactly the same page! The concept of the Veloce is to have beginners wearing the shoe more fitted so the big toe is at the tip of the shoe. And, like you mentioned, this should also help with technique as they progress through the range of more "advanced" shoes. Gym climbing really changed the game of what "beginner" shoes should be. When everybody who started climbing was outside on slab, it made sense to have a stiffer shoe. Now, with the majority of climbers starting indoors, it definitely seems like the Veloce, and the models you mentioned, are a superior start. Thanks for sharing your tips!! -AD
I started climbing 6 months ago and I'm sad that I already bought the typical beginner shoes then. The climbing store didn't even let me try these although they should have them in store. Now I really want those shoes but I feel like it's kind of a waste to by new shoes 6 months later as my shoes are doing their job. Oh well maybe I'll go back to the store next time I'm in the city to try them on. It would definitely be fun to wear shoes that are softer so you can actually feel your feet and be precise with your footwork. It does seem like it should help a lot with technique:)
I've been waiting for this shoe. I got the origins for my first shoe and while they worked great for my first few climbs I've wanted new shoes for a few months now and I've been waiting for these to get to stores here. Now I don't know if I should get these or the instinct vs because I'm not worried about the extra money and just want the best shoe I can get?
Robert Grasso if you havent developped proper footwork having thé best shore wont really help, i would recomend getting those high end shoes after 2 years of climbing
@@americanman6347 The Veloce's are great. Hopefully you got them. Beginners shouldn't have to settle for clunky, flat shoes that perform like crap. The sensitivity of these can help build footwork and prepare you for the more high-end, aggressive models down the road.
Beginners buy the higher performing shoes because that's what they see in ads. They wear them, several sizes too big, so I'd be surprised that beginners think they climb better. But saying that, I like this shoe.
Erratum maybe not but I have seen many beginners go into a store and say “I want la Sportiva solutions in a (street shoe size)” because they’ve seen different pros/people at their gym wearing them
league plays In many ways, I don’t blame beginners for making that mistake. High-end shoes look sleek as hell and are performance-oriented. it’s easy to think they’ll make you that much better compared to the uglier, and often clunkier, beginner shoes.
This is a big question, but it's a good one! The biggest difference is that beginner shoes are flat and straight (the heel and toe line up), so they are more comfortable for the foot and provide the most support. Advanced shoes have a high degree of asymmetry (where the toe could be 30 degrees or more offset from the heel) and have a lot of downturn that helps the shoe cling to the rock even with very small edges/pockets/holds. The downside is that they may seem painful for a newer climbers foot, so new climbers would use a size that is "too big" and this would negate the design benefits. Intermediate shoes are everywhere in-between. Historically speaking, beginner shoes have also been very stiff. This is because it was the tradition that most beginner climbers were climbing slab (low-angled walls), and the stiffness is helpful for feet that are new to climbing. Now, most new climbers are starting in the gym, on bouldering walls, which tend to be short and very overhanging. Most of the stiff beginner shoes don't work well in this case. And this is the trend that SCARPA is bucking (and I imagine in the next few years will be the new norm). If you want to dive into the details more, I suggest this post: blog.weighmyrack.com/the-most-complete-climbing-shoe-buying-guide/ -AD
I tried these on and found them very comfortable and sensitive. What would be the intermediate+ equivalent with a more aggressive profile but the same softness, toe box, etc?
That’s a great question. I have a feeling there is going to be a push to develop something like an intermediate version or the Veloce in the near future. The biggest challenge i see is balancing a more comfortable toe box while needing a tighter fitting shoe to get the benefit of a more downturned design
If you already own the Drago and are happy with the fit, the best bet is the same size in the Veloce. Also, if you order online, if possible, would you click through our site to the retailer - clicking our retailer links rewards us a with a small commission (at no extra cost to you) and helps us afford the time to create videos like this one! You can find the buying options here: male: weighmyrack.com/shoe/scarpa-veloce-men female: weighmyrack.com/shoe/scarpa-veloce-women Note, as of this comment, Jan 10th, the only buying option we list is in the US at REI. More retailers will be coming online soon as the Veloce availability increases. -AD
I just ordered these, and even though they are a half size too small, the heel is still super baggy :/ Also, the velcro strap is so long it almost goes underneath the shoe on the side :/ Weird shoe to wear
stop calling it a beginner shoe. this shoe is the fucking shit. it feels like a neoprene sock. easily the most comfortable climbing shoe i ever worn. i downsized like 3 or 4 times and it doesn't get any less comfortable lol.
Yeah, I would call them indoor training shoes for all levels. There's nothing beginner about it, you just can't use them in comps / outside projects where you need 100% performance.
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I'm not a beginner but I only wear soft shoes- it's so nice to have a lower price point soft shoe for gym use!! Brilliant thank you Scarpa
I dont consider myself as a beginner but I really want a pair of these shoes!
Hah yeah me too! I wonder why they don't introduce the softer rubber on their higher end models too...
@@justinth83 The advantage of S72 is that it has the most frictional on large holds. The disadvantage is that it is less stable on small holds. The S72 rubber is as durable as Vibram rubber of the same thickness.
-AD
Best detailed description of a climbing shoe I have every heard!
Glad it was helpful!
Coming from my Tarantulaces, these shoes are an incredible upgrade. They conform to your feet brilliantly and it doesn't feel like your torturing yourself while wearing them.
I just made the same move
I ve tried these shoes in store. Really impresses me. Fit is amazing! Although i hope scarpa could make the heel a bit stiffer next year.
I've been selling climbing shoes for a solid decade now, and this generation of the Scarpa Veloce that's marketed as a beginner shoe is so incredibly different from the concept of "beginner shoe" that we've long held. So I very much appreciate what a good job he did explaining the ins and outs of this shoe, and, the WHY's of its various design features.
We'll see how well it sells, but in the mean time: Way to go Scarpa for thinking outside the box when creating this newest Veloce!
how well did it sell?
@@Paul-wy6tnreally well actually. Ton of them at my gym.
@@Paul-wy6tn The best portion of the Veloce is that it's not really only a beginner shoe. If you're a beginner and you're on almost your street shoe size with them, just go half a size maybe a full size smaller and you have a really comfy shoe that does pretty well in intermediate to advanced areas. I seriously love it. Only recently I've expanded to Instinct VSR and Drago (which I couldn't try yet).
@@HiImBQ I'm looking for a second pair after the tarantulas and was thinking of buying the VSR, but I just watched this video. Which one would be better for a intermediate indoor climber?
@@lijbDFYGUOQ depends if you go outdoor climbing or not. If you do almost only indoor, go for the Veloce! If you want to lead climb outdoor, go for Vapor V. If you are an addicted boulderer that has outdoor boulder project go for the Instinct VSR. But first try them and be sure they fit you !
I have the lace version of this. Love the shoe and use it for everything beside my hardest projects (for this i use a LS Theory). The performance is really good and at the same time it is the most comfortable climbing shoe i ever had. Thank you Scarpa. I had never expected that such a good shoe can be so comfy!
interesting. I train in beginner shoes(Helix) and project in aggressive shoes (instincts). I prefer to train in beginner shoes for the comfort, which extends how long I climb, and think it adds the training by increasing the difficulty. However lack of performance could increase the chance of injury and better performance is more fun and encouraging, also important. Either way Love Scarpa and would love to try these.
I totally recommend this shoe. I dont even consider it a begginer shoe, or even exclusively a gym shoe, Ive been climbing for many years, and sent some of my hardest boulders and routes outside with them. They are my most reliable all rounder
Awesome! I would agree that the Veloce is a much more capable shoe than most people give it credit for. Thanks for the constructive comments and sharing with the community!
I started climbing with these outside also. Took me 4 years to start climbing with "beginner" shoes.
Tried them on at a local shop. They have a massive heel, biggest in the line. If you can fit the heel, i'm sure this will be a great shoe
Thanks for sharing your experience! Obviously trying on the shoes is the only way see if they work for your feet but having information like this is super helpful!
I've been regularly climbing for 8+ years and wore several different shoes over the years.
I just picked up a pair of these yesterday, as my first ever soft shoe because the price point was low enough that I'm not too worried if I go through the rubber quickly.
I've climbed in them once so far, which isn't enough for a review, but so far I like the fit and finish; they're really comfortable. I'm normally a size 41 or 42 and ended up getting a size 39 in the Low Volume model, so I recommend trying them on before buying.. and sizing down as much as you can.
I was able to climb everything I would normally climb in my previous pair of shoes which were much more aggressively downturned and stiff, with just as much confidence so I'm optimistic the Veloce's will perform well for me.
For reference, my previous shoes were So iLL Free Range, but resoled with 5.10 rubber.
Thanks for sharing your experience and recommendations for sizing! I would love to hear what you think of them after a few months. :)
-Andreas
How are they now after 3 years?
i finally got around to trying bouldering and loved it, probably because it went allot better then i tough it would. and didn't take a master mind to realise how bad the rental shoes was. so here i am trying to find a solid pair i can use for a while :D
So psyched you enjoyed climbing!!! Be careful, it can take over your life :)
I think there is only 1 piece of advice I would suggest for a new-ish climber. Get a shoe that is comfortable when tight. Try on as many pairs as you can. The Veloce could be a great place to start, but it's all about fit. Too many people buy shoes that are not comfortable so they have to size up. It's much better to have a shoe that isn't the popular option but fits than have a shoe that everyone says is great but doesn't fit. The performance comes down to how your feet interact with the shoe and no single model can fit everyone and only you can decide if it's the right fit for you, so don't let sales people convince you to get a shoe that isn't comfy when tight.
cheers!
-Andreas U
Climbed my first v8 in these. Good shoes super comfy
Absolutely can’t wait to get some of these for cruising gym routes. Tried on a pre-production pair and was instantly in love. I generally wear Aleon or Kataki for gym sessions and these look like a great blend of what I love about both shoes for casual climbing.
I just bought my first climbing shoes and these were by far the most comfortable.
This is briliant
Those forearms and hands are massive! I wouldn't want to shake his hand lol
I'm looking for an upgrade from my Sportiva finale vs (men) and the veloce look awesome! somehow i feel the label beginner shoe is picked wrong.. they feel more like a high performance all rounder shoe that has comfort in mind.. i'm kinda worried about sizing tho.. for my finale vs i just took my normal shoe size and they fit nice, but i think they are a bit too loose after breaking in.. i have 42.5 for the finale, should i get 42 or 41.5? for the veloce? :/
That’s a really good question and a comparison to the finale would be really helpful. I hope someone with firsthand experience can chime in!
Looking forward to these! $120 is a great price point -- my go to recommendation to new climbers has always been the Sportiva Finales. 5mm of XS Edge for $110...lots of durability. The soft 4mm rubber will definitely be noticeably less durable but hopefully it'll hold its value through its more modern features.
Love the finale as a first shoe, can't decide what to get next though
I just picked up a pair, and I'm normally a 10.5 us street shoe. I went with a 9.5 for the veloce. And I don't know if they're just to small, (I have some tarantulaces that are 8.5 which fit perfectly now and never hurt) but the veloced are extremely painful especially on my left foot. The big toe knuckle, and my pinky toe knuckle feel like they're getting crushed. I'm not sure if I need to maybe size up a half size, or if maybe this shape of shoe just isn't for me. My right foot is slightly painful. But not near as bad as the left. Can I expect them to stretch a bit? The leather on the tarantulace stretch alot, but these are all synthetic
I would not expect them to stretch to the point where you'd actually want to wear them. Definitely go up in size. And if that doesn't make them awesome, the last shape just isn't for your foot. Every shoe will work amazingly well for some people, and not at all for others. Size is the first consideration, but if the shape was a perfect fit for your foot, even going down a half size shouldn't cause as much discomfort as you're reporting.
These shoes look great for beginners! It doesn't surprise me that Scarpa are the first to market a soft, moderately downturned, slightly asymmetric shoe for beginners. I've always believed beginners should wear soft shoes so that they not only develop foot/toe strength but so that they can really feel their feet working when in contact with plastic/rock for better precision. The usual beginner shoe may have the durability of thick rubber (though usually cheap material and not very sticky), but it's just terrible for developing better footwork and when they eventually go for a more aggressive shoe as their second pair, their toes usually can't handle the soft rubber, midsole (or lack of), asymmetry and are in pain, because their beginner shoes didn't prepare them well enough. I've always recommended soft slippers for beginners like Evolv Addict, 5.10 Moccasym, Instinct SR, Tenaya Oasi. Some of those shoes are considered advanced because they're super soft and downturned, but they're not super downturned and don't have high asymmetry. The only downside here is that they're expensive than usual beginner shoes. Stiff, flat, thick rubber beginner shoes are a total waste of time if you're starting climbing in a gym. Soft shoes are the way for indoor climbers, beginners and pros alike!
Seems like you and SCARPA are on exactly the same page! The concept of the Veloce is to have beginners wearing the shoe more fitted so the big toe is at the tip of the shoe. And, like you mentioned, this should also help with technique as they progress through the range of more "advanced" shoes.
Gym climbing really changed the game of what "beginner" shoes should be. When everybody who started climbing was outside on slab, it made sense to have a stiffer shoe. Now, with the majority of climbers starting indoors, it definitely seems like the Veloce, and the models you mentioned, are a superior start.
Thanks for sharing your tips!! -AD
I started climbing 6 months ago and I'm sad that I already bought the typical beginner shoes then. The climbing store didn't even let me try these although they should have them in store. Now I really want those shoes but I feel like it's kind of a waste to by new shoes 6 months later as my shoes are doing their job. Oh well maybe I'll go back to the store next time I'm in the city to try them on. It would definitely be fun to wear shoes that are softer so you can actually feel your feet and be precise with your footwork. It does seem like it should help a lot with technique:)
What's différence for arpia to veloce?
Yeah
I've been waiting for this shoe. I got the origins for my first shoe and while they worked great for my first few climbs I've wanted new shoes for a few months now and I've been waiting for these to get to stores here. Now I don't know if I should get these or the instinct vs because I'm not worried about the extra money and just want the best shoe I can get?
Robert Grasso if you havent developped proper footwork having thé best shore wont really help, i would recomend getting those high end shoes after 2 years of climbing
@@santiagoreyes1545 I've really been working on footwork and I think I'll go with the veloce to start. Thanks
@@americanman6347
The Veloce's are great. Hopefully you got them. Beginners shouldn't have to settle for clunky, flat shoes that perform like crap. The sensitivity of these can help build footwork and prepare you for the more high-end, aggressive models down the road.
Can I ask what you mean by I symmetrical?
From what I understand it has something to do with toe length.
Thanks :)
We wrote a blog post about assymetry: h
ttps://blog.weighmyrack.com/high-asymmetry-low-asymmetry-climbing-shoes/
they don't have the size of the mens veloce shoes online that I previously wore, can I get the equivalent size in the women's version?
Beginners buy the higher performing shoes because that's what they see in ads. They wear them, several sizes too big, so I'd be surprised that beginners think they climb better. But saying that, I like this shoe.
Erratum maybe not but I have seen many beginners go into a store and say “I want la Sportiva solutions in a (street shoe size)” because they’ve seen different pros/people at their gym wearing them
league plays
In many ways, I don’t blame beginners for making that mistake. High-end shoes look sleek as hell and are performance-oriented. it’s easy to think they’ll make you that much better compared to the uglier, and often clunkier, beginner shoes.
Just bought these, hope I don't eat through the rubber too fast
Spoiler alert: you'll tear them down too quickly as the rand is one of the thinnest I've ever seen
This shoe is the best shoe for standing on volumes I've ever worn. It almost feels like cheating ;)
Love the feedback. We still haven't got our feet into them but now you make even MORE curious!
-Andreas
What's the difference between a beginner's, intermediate, and advanced shoes?
This is a big question, but it's a good one! The biggest difference is that beginner shoes are flat and straight (the heel and toe line up), so they are more comfortable for the foot and provide the most support.
Advanced shoes have a high degree of asymmetry (where the toe could be 30 degrees or more offset from the heel) and have a lot of downturn that helps the shoe cling to the rock even with very small edges/pockets/holds. The downside is that they may seem painful for a newer climbers foot, so new climbers would use a size that is "too big" and this would negate the design benefits.
Intermediate shoes are everywhere in-between.
Historically speaking, beginner shoes have also been very stiff. This is because it was the tradition that most beginner climbers were climbing slab (low-angled walls), and the stiffness is helpful for feet that are new to climbing.
Now, most new climbers are starting in the gym, on bouldering walls, which tend to be short and very overhanging. Most of the stiff beginner shoes don't work well in this case. And this is the trend that SCARPA is bucking (and I imagine in the next few years will be the new norm).
If you want to dive into the details more, I suggest this post:
blog.weighmyrack.com/the-most-complete-climbing-shoe-buying-guide/
-AD
I tried these on and found them very comfortable and sensitive.
What would be the intermediate+ equivalent with a more aggressive profile but the same softness, toe box, etc?
That’s a great question. I have a feeling there is going to be a push to develop something like an intermediate version or the Veloce in the near future. The biggest challenge i see is balancing a more comfortable toe box while needing a tighter fitting shoe to get the benefit of a more downturned design
Scarpa Arpia are would be the next step up. Very similar fit just slightly more aggressive and better edging
Looks like it could be a pretty nice crack shoe with slightly larger sizes with so much toe room and rubber...
Tiktian Chan shouldn’t crack shoe be flat ?
It's way too soft for a good crack shoe
Looking to order a pair online. Should i get em at same size as my dragos??
If you already own the Drago and are happy with the fit, the best bet is the same size in the Veloce.
Also, if you order online, if possible, would you click through our site to the retailer - clicking our retailer links rewards us a with a small commission (at no extra cost to you) and helps us afford the time to create videos like this one! You can find the buying options here:
male: weighmyrack.com/shoe/scarpa-veloce-men
female: weighmyrack.com/shoe/scarpa-veloce-women
Note, as of this comment, Jan 10th, the only buying option we list is in the US at REI. More retailers will be coming online soon as the Veloce availability increases.
-AD
I just ordered these, and even though they are a half size too small, the heel is still super baggy :/
Also, the velcro strap is so long it almost goes underneath the shoe on the side :/ Weird shoe to wear
hmm this should be sized like between 1 nad 2 eu down from your street shoe size.....but also mybe the last just doesnt fit you
stop calling it a beginner shoe. this shoe is the fucking shit. it feels like a neoprene sock. easily the most comfortable climbing shoe i ever worn. i downsized like 3 or 4 times and it doesn't get any less comfortable lol.
Yeah, I would call them indoor training shoes for all levels. There's nothing beginner about it, you just can't use them in comps / outside projects where you need 100% performance.
Are these vegan? I saw on Instagram the Veloce are vegan friendly shoes
I'm pretty sure they are. They are made with synthetic microfiber.
my beginner shoes did cost 60 Euro... just sayin Scarpa... juuust sayin
Did it have the same technology and stitching.... Just sayin