After picking 'up and down' on jig I finally learned this pattern, which I know is the right picking. But being 70 years old, after a while it slowed me. So I had to reluctantly return to the up and down.
That’s a nice clear explanation. Love your enthusiasm. I put my mandolin away some years ago having tried but failed to play. I might be tempted to try again.
Great playing 👏👏. I learnt that tune from my mother’s lilting, on my Dad’s mandolin 50 years ago, as a song in jig time. It has a chorus that began - Oh Father OFlynn, you’ve a wonderful way with you. All the ould sinners are wishful to pray with you… Just restarted mandolin again and delighted to find this channel.
Great! Just bought a mandolin from Kieron Malloy's Music store in Galway, so this is the perfect song to christen her with. (I am in the south of France--no decent instruments here, not even a good store. At my request, Kieron threw in a few of his favourite mandolin picks and I was surprised to see how very different these are from the picks you discuss on your video on the subject. These are very light weight and either sharp edged or surprisingly small. But they do lend a bright sound to the jig, for instance. While you are in Ireland, could to take a moment to talk to us about their choice of picks, the whys and wherefores of the differences? Eager to hear more.
The hardest part is keeping the triplet rhythm while changing strings. Coming from guitar I have a habit of economy picking. Slowing down and focusing. I have only been playing about a week, but love this Irish Jig pattern and sound. Must be due to my ancestry.
This is awesome! I loved Irish tunes for a while now; and it's one of the reasons I decided on started to learn to play the mandolin. What a lovely experience, thank you very much for sharing that with us; and can't wait to practice this!
Agree that DUD is the best pattern for jigs. However, for most Irish sessions that I've been to, the flute and fiddle players play the tunes obnoxiously fast to where DUD isn't practical. I took lessons from an old Irish dude, a very good banjo player, and he told me that for playing at sessions he uses alternating picking for the most part and doesn't get caught up if his pick direction gets reversed.
Hey Doug! Yeah, I know there are some different opinions out there, but I think it definitely changes the feel of the music in a positive way when you play jigs DUD DUD. Definitely worth a try if you haven't explored it already!
This is really useful because I bought the mandolin to learn Irish jigs and Italian classical so the Bluegrass method didn’t really align well. Is there a picking pattern for Italian picking in pieces like Giovanni Giovale’s ‘Amorino’
Man! That is tough! I’ve always wanted to some Celtic-ish things to my playing but I just tried to accent on the beats using an up and down picking pattern but couldn’t ever get the feeling right. Thanks for this video! How would you do those triplety feeling things in Celtic music?
Simple question :-) but, why don't you just emphasise the up stroke on Note 4? That way you can continue using the alternating pick pattern. You don't need to learn a new pattern and it should sound the same. Am I missing something?
Good question! I know there are different opinions out there, but I think down strokes will always sound different than ups now matter how you emphasize them. Also, by using the DUD DUD pattern you also get a different 8th note feel which swings the rhythm of the music differently. Try it both ways and see what you think!
@@DavidBenedictMandolin Thanks a lot for the reply. What you say makes a lot of sense. I was watching some Irish players I like and they all seem to be using DUDDUD too! I'll have to wave goodbye to alternative picking ;-)
@@bmeistergeneral there is something to be said for doing something the same way it’s traditionally done, even if you can get similar results doing it differently. Helps you understand the mindset of the people who created the music in the first place. It also helps that it matches the footwork for dancing jig.
I know about down up down down up down jig pattern. Those pickers use down up down up down pattern Don't put the accent on the 4th note that why it doesn't sound like a jig There Book Art of picking book by Jimmy Bruno . There a exercise picking up with a heavy accent on a down beat pattern then going back picking down with accent on a down beat pattern. There another book Mike Marshall's Mandolin Method-The Great Book of Finger Busters. Mike Marshall aways tell people down up down pattern down on the beat. Tony Rice , Gypsy Guitar players & Jimmy Bruno don't follow the rules picking down on the beat they may accent the picking up on the down beat . Like Bruce Lee once said Feel don't think ! Feel the rhythm pick down or up on the down beat one Master both patterns one will never get lost. Good luck my friends
You tube didnt exist when i was young mandolin player 1977. Sam Bush did. Tutorials abound now....its convenient. Thank you
After picking 'up and down' on jig I finally learned this pattern, which I know is the right picking. But being 70 years old, after a while it slowed me. So I had to reluctantly return to the up and down.
It's great that you showed what that jig sounds like using both picking methods. You can definitely hear the difference.
Awesome! So glad!
Alternate picking jig literally caused me physical pain.
That’s a nice clear explanation. Love your enthusiasm. I put my mandolin away some years ago having tried but failed to play. I might be tempted to try again.
Thanks ,from Ireland. Dunmore East Bluegrass festival
Sure thing, Gerry! Happy picking!
Great playing 👏👏. I learnt that tune from my mother’s lilting, on my Dad’s mandolin 50 years ago, as a song in jig time. It has a chorus that began - Oh Father OFlynn, you’ve a wonderful way with you. All the ould sinners are wishful to pray with you…
Just restarted mandolin again and delighted to find this channel.
Rock on! That's so cool!
Father O'Flynn is a popular Irish jig. 💚💚🤍🤍🧡🧡
Great! Just bought a mandolin from Kieron Malloy's Music store in Galway, so this is the perfect song to christen her with. (I am in the south of France--no decent instruments here, not even a good store. At my request, Kieron threw in a few of his favourite mandolin picks and I was surprised to see how very different these are from the picks you discuss on your video on the subject. These are very light weight and either sharp edged or surprisingly small. But they do lend a bright sound to the jig, for instance. While you are in Ireland, could to take a moment to talk to us about their choice of picks, the whys and wherefores of the differences? Eager to hear more.
Hey Amanda! That's a great idea! Hoping to talk a bit about that in an upcoming video soon. Cheers!
The hardest part is keeping the triplet rhythm while changing strings. Coming from guitar I have a habit of economy picking. Slowing down and focusing. I have only been playing about a week, but love this Irish Jig pattern and sound. Must be due to my ancestry.
Family from Co. Armagh - that makes you an 'Old Armaghian'!! From a fellow (still) Armaghian who plays folk mandolin
Lovely David !
Thanks so much!!
I was told that "jig" has 3 letters, and "reel" has 4, so it's easy to remember which is which...
Nice! That's a helpful device!
I have been wondering why my jigs sound stilted and dead, and that comparison of the two patterns just wrecked me. Thank you so much!
Awesome explanation and demonstration of the jig pattern! Keep the Celtic stuff coming. Happy St Pat's day!
Thanks! Will do!
Awesome!! This will really help my Jig playing!! As long as it doesn't melt my brain first!!
This is awesome! I loved Irish tunes for a while now; and it's one of the reasons I decided on started to learn to play the mandolin. What a lovely experience, thank you very much for sharing that with us; and can't wait to practice this!
That's so great! Best wishes!
Thanks so much for the lessons. So easy to follow. So well explained. Amd so dynamic. Thanks too for the introduction to other influential players.
The alternative tune title is "The Top of the Cork Road". ;-)
Awesome! Thanks for sharing, John!
David, you are amezing! thank you so much for all your lessons, it's the best mandolin online resoursce for me. 🍀
this is sooo helpful and I'm loving learning this jig.
This is such an excellent video thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this tune! Helpful to have this picking pattern for the jig. Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure, Jason!
Great job David!
Thanks Barry!
Agree that DUD is the best pattern for jigs. However, for most Irish sessions that I've been to, the flute and fiddle players play the tunes obnoxiously fast to where DUD isn't practical.
I took lessons from an old Irish dude, a very good banjo player, and he told me that for playing at sessions he uses alternating picking for the most part and doesn't get caught up if his pick direction gets reversed.
Agreed anything over about150bpm really requires alternate picking, especially if it has even faster bursts for the ornaments.
this is great! just this one video and I learned so much.
Sounds great! Gonna rejigger my right hand for them 6/8s :))
Have fun!
Great video!
David. I've been playing Irish jigs since 1990. It is possible to play accents on up strokes.
Hey Doug! Yeah, I know there are some different opinions out there, but I think it definitely changes the feel of the music in a positive way when you play jigs DUD DUD. Definitely worth a try if you haven't explored it already!
This is really useful because I bought the mandolin to learn Irish jigs and Italian classical so the Bluegrass method didn’t really align well. Is there a picking pattern for Italian picking in pieces like Giovanni Giovale’s ‘Amorino’
David can you recommend some places to hear live music in Dublin? Thanks
Man! That is tough! I’ve always wanted to some Celtic-ish things to my playing but I just tried to accent on the beats using an up and down picking pattern but couldn’t ever get the feeling right. Thanks for this video! How would you do those triplety feeling things in Celtic music?
Hey Nathan! Ah thanks so much for watching this, man! Working on a triplet video as we speak--more soon!
Simple question :-) but, why don't you just emphasise the up stroke on Note 4? That way you can continue using the alternating pick pattern. You don't need to learn a new pattern and it should sound the same. Am I missing something?
Good question! I know there are different opinions out there, but I think down strokes will always sound different than ups now matter how you emphasize them. Also, by using the DUD DUD pattern you also get a different 8th note feel which swings the rhythm of the music differently. Try it both ways and see what you think!
@@DavidBenedictMandolin Thanks a lot for the reply. What you say makes a lot of sense. I was watching some Irish players I like and they all seem to be using DUDDUD too! I'll have to wave goodbye to alternative picking ;-)
@@bmeistergeneral there is something to be said for doing something the same way it’s traditionally done, even if you can get similar results doing it differently. Helps you understand the mindset of the people who created the music in the first place. It also helps that it matches the footwork for dancing jig.
It should be spelled Gigue, not jig. It's a french term for a song in a three note rhythm pattern.
Thank you for the vid!
what's the name of the tune at the very beginning of video ???
I know about down up down down up down jig pattern. Those pickers use down up down up down pattern Don't put the accent on the 4th note that why it doesn't sound like a jig
There Book Art of picking book by Jimmy Bruno . There a exercise picking up with a heavy accent on a down beat pattern then going back picking down with accent on a down beat pattern. There another book Mike Marshall's Mandolin Method-The Great Book of Finger Busters. Mike Marshall aways tell people down up down pattern down on the beat.
Tony Rice , Gypsy Guitar players & Jimmy Bruno don't follow the rules picking down on the beat they may accent the picking up on the down beat . Like Bruce Lee once said Feel don't think !
Feel the rhythm pick down or up on the down beat one Master both patterns one will never get lost. Good luck my friends
Hello, thanks for the lessons! Please tell me what is the name of the jig that sounds in this video at the very beginning? Thanks!
Did you find out?
Noooo(((
I found it, it's The Resonant Universe by David Benedict himself@@alexanderfomin2787
What is the song in the intro to this video?
Where can we get the music to print out?
Got all my transcriptions up on my Patreon page. There's a link in the description above
Wich tune?
Geez, you could have used an Irish Mandolin for the lessons. They have greater volume to play with Fiddles, Accordions etc. 💚💚🤍🤍🧡🧡