Marine Reacts to Death Korps of Krieg (Sodaz)
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- Marine Reacts to Death Korps of Krieg (Sodaz).
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Leman Russ is Primarch of the Space Wolves, having a Dark Angel on screen tripped me up, sorry lol.
Fun fact: Other than preventing Kriegsmen from charging blindly into enemy fire, Krieg commissars also exist to keep Kriegsmen from shit-talking other regiments to their faces for being too pussy to properly serve the imperium.
Commissars in Krieg regiments can also serve as emergency rations in a pinch.
Jajaja i can't the picture put of My head of a commissar talking to a stoic kriegsman like a kindergarden teachers : hey k13268 i need to talk to You bud, what You said to that cadian guardsman was very mean ...
@@eXpriest "Do those Krieg fellows even eat?"
"I DON'T KNOW."
If they were Cadian, they would have purple eyes. Their just a everyday IM group somewhere in the galaxy.
@@tanall5959 well they're gonna be eating up at some point then if they do, considering asmodai sent them some inquisitor nuggets
Chaos Grunt: Sir, we killed the Krieg Commissar!
Chaos Space Marine: YOU WHAT?!
Completely underrated comment, and I am extremely late to the party. Oh well.
Better late than never my friend
2nd Chaos grunt in the background: There's angry gasmask noises and boss music coming from the trenchs
Chaos Lord: Y'all stay here, I'm going to...go talk to the Despoiler. Yeah.
Be me, an elite genetically engineered super soldier who has waged war for ten thousand years, killing the most dangerous of foes in melee combat, fights a Dark Angel, wins, suddenly attacked by a bunch of mortals, pulps them, stabs one, gets blown up by what was possibly a fourteen year old in a trench coat.
That happens pretty often on the field. Players learn that you can't walk a squad of marines up a field without turning them into easy casualties. You put them in a pod or behind a wall or in a battle taxi.
To be fair... When you have a kill count that could repopulate a plant, are you going to see a fourteen year old with tnt killing as a possibility?
mfw
That's Tzeentch's sense of humour for you.
>Mfw
Kriegers: *show little to no regard to dying in combat*
Heretics: That's cheating! Shoot them or something.
Kriegers: Jokes on you. We're into that shit.
they should kill the commisar first to break the moral
@@thanquolrattenherz9665 *gas mask giggling*
Honestly the memes about the deathcorps are funny but most of them are not true to lore
@@thanquolrattenherz9665 You DOOO know that the commissars assigned to the Death Korps is there to STOP them from killing themselves too fast by MASS charging the enemy?
@@thanquolrattenherz9665 it's not uncommon for Kriegers to execute their Commissars for cowardice.
a quote from one of the books "Each shell that a Korpsman intercepts is a shell that doesn't hit one of your tanks - which in turn means the tank can keep on firing. I have many hundreds of men and they are easily replicable. You have only a handful of tanks and we cannot afford to lose them."
Which book?
@@ELITESrBAMOFOS945 Knight of Talassar. It's a Krieg Officer talking to an Ultra Marine Captain if I remember correctly
That's a badass wh40k quote
True
Fun fact to become a officer in the Death Corps you need to serve in a rough rider company. So those spear wielding crazy’s are all officer candidates for the Death corps
Of course to become a officer candidate, you have to survive as regular guard, and then as a grenadier. And death corps grenadier have the highest mortality rate in the Imperium.
@@HiopX well 1 out of ten survive the number rises to 1 out of eight if a watch master takes them under there wings.
And not all officers come from the rough riders just most something like 9 out of ten.
Artillery and tankers are the exception with 6 out of ten of there officers coming from there own ranks. Because you have to have used the damn things to know how to properly use them in combat
Not necessarily having to be a death rider, just higher chances of pulling from that type of unit. They can be pulled from any type of unit, and its usually shown in how they are dressed.
Let me get this right...
9/10 kreig commissars come from the rough riders...
6/10 come from armor divisions...
You do know how ratios work, right?
@@austinholm-mcrae2777 9/10 Infantry Commissars come from the Rough Riders
6/10 Armor Commissars come from their own Ranks. Meaning 4/10 come from the Rough Riders.
Do YOU know how to read?
I know Kriegers suicidal tendencies are a bit of a meme now in the 40k community but this short shows the difference in mentality of Krieg compared to the average guardsmen. Kriegers aren’t suicidal because they want to die in penitence, more so they are willing to sacrifice themselves in place of more valuable assets or goals. Take this short, with the Cadians we see the Marine taking point at the front of the unit he’s with acting as their shield. Kriegers on the other hand understand that an Astartes is far more valuable than them and so when they move into the trenches we see them infront of the Marine, almost acting as shields for him to take the first hit. Again when the marine is down they charge into the Berzerker knowing full well they’re going to die but their death will mean a greater asset is kept to fight on.
There’s actually a good book I read a few years ago called Dead Men Walking, its about Necrons waking up on an imperial hive world as a few Krieg regiments are stationed there on “leave” after a campaign. You never get direct POV from the Kriegers but in one scene a hive civilian is watching a platoon of Krieg grenadiers fighting Necron flayed ones, and its noted that as the Necrons closed in the Kriegers charged into melee with the flayed ones to give time and space for their men armed with meltas to keep picking off the Necrons.
Also just wanted to say I found your channel through your last video and I really enjoy your content. Definitely some of the best breakdowns of the shorts I’ve watched.
a quote from one of the books "Each shell that a Korpsman intercepts is a shell that doesn't hit one of your tanks - which in turn means the tank can keep on firing. I have many hundreds of men and they are easily replicable. You have only a handful of tanks and we cannot afford to lose them."
Melee with a flayed one. That’s just horrific.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 I recall that book. Genuinely scared the hell out of me when the full horror of the Necrons are on displaced and how they destroy the entire planet, but also in the way the Death Korps are so completely inhuman in their behavior and how they dehumanize the population for more martial servitude.
Absolutely love & recommend the book, because it's one of the few books where the the 'good guys' lose and truly show the full horror of what both sides are capable of. I mean leaving millions behind and leave them with the knowledge they will either die from being harvested by the necrons, die from starvation, disease or if they are (un)lucky enough to live that long, from exerminatus fleet that is on it's way to the planet, that might take years to come in the first place? You'd rather take a bullet to the head for a quick death than to be in be stuck on a planet and perish to a slow death.
Absolutely. Kriegers do not go for any suicidal plan that comes their way. If a plan that doesn't risk killing their men shows a better chance of success, they will do that. If a plan shows a high chance of success, but almost guaranteed casualties, they will do that one.
To a Krieger, it is not about dying for the Emperor, it is dying EFFECTIVELY for the Emperor. It's all about that K/D. XD
@ElectroEdge what book???
I want to know so I can get it for my collection
One of the biggest ironies to having a Khorne Berserker killed by a Kriegsman is that Krieg unknowingly give Khorne a massive rager with how stoic, efficient, and crazy in battle they can be.
I've sometimes wondered just how salty Khorne has to be that a planet literally named for war isn't dedicated to worshipping him.
@@JuliusClonkus Pretty salty I would imagine.
I don't think he particularly cares that Krieg refuses to worship him. Khorne does not care from whom the blood flows - only that it does.
Khorne is impartial. The only thing that he really loathes is peace. A Bloodthirster falls only to return to the warp and come back at a later date. Khorne is fueled by the conflict, whether the outcome is in his favor or not. Every battlefield stands as a shrine to Khorne.
@@austinholm-mcrae2777 Khorne also has aspects of him that are all about being honorable, honest, and willingness to sacrifice, at least in the older fluff before being turned into one trick phony. Hell, all Chaos Gods are, well, chaotic amalgamations of both good and bad emotions. Regardless, Khorne is not pissed that Kriegers don't worship him. He is elated that there is an entire planet of such worthy and respectable warriors
Calling what the death korps ride into battle a 'horse' is a bit inaccurate. As a krieg 'horse' has more in common with a grizzly bear than with an actual terrain horse. Those things may as well be the space marines of horses
I guess Sodaz couldn't find any good SFM models to represent those "horses".
Those Krieg horses are also a bit larger than a Clydesdale. A Fn draft horse, 2 times the size of the horses SODAZ used. With claws not just hooves.
@@erikskole7669 Makes sense, the "horses" would have to be resilient to fit the historic surface warfare they had on their atomic world, plus to fit any other warfare scenario were our horses would be rather ... weak or non-resilient in comparison.
@@Unknown-ek1ox well they are genetically modified to that purpose, not just that way...... So yeah, agreed.
They're actually bioengineering to be living tanks
Fun fact the average Krieger is in their early teens when they first see deployment (around 13/14 years old) which is another one of the reasons they wear masks to conceal their age, Veterans/grenadiers are typically in their late to mid teens so they are essentially vat grown child soldiers (that being kriegs dirty little secret to keep pumping out their only export... manpower, the technology is banned by the mechanicus but it has been allowed to slide under notice due to the effectiveness of Krieg regiments) we see this in dead man walking when the regimental commisar orders a krieg grenadier to remove his mask and uniform so they could blend in with the civilian populace and the commissar is surprised as to how young he is. (nvm you mentioned half of this inn the video oh well never mind :P )
Does it ever say or implied in the lore that they are that young
@@Archangel1862
Yes, it’s implied by Kriegsmen requesting to be thrown into combat as soon as possible and the other guys example.
@@requiemlul3140
Where
it's not their dirty little secret that they are vat grown, they were given that tech by the administratum because of their loyalty and skill.
@@Rembanspellsong the little dirty secret is how young they are.
Lion El Johnson is the primarch of the dark angels. Leman Russ is the primarch of the space wolves.
i am pretty sure he knows. but the main battle tank of the Imperial Guard is named after the Primarch of the Space Wolves. That was a little confusing i suppose in the video. he always meant the tank.
As a Space Wolves player that gaffe had me like "Hey! Whoa,whoa... those two guys have had fisticuffs!"😄
@@ricwalker6600 I fear he actually called Primarch Leman Russ the Primach of Dark Angels. :/ (played that part a few times to be sure) But that can happen considering the amount of info in 40k lore.
I always remember this comic of a watcher in the dark bringing Lion El’Johnson a can of Red Bull
Pretty sure those two pretty much hate each other
He who scoffs at the might of a lazgun
Has never ran through a field of 1000
The Emperor protects
And those Guardsmen are actual Cadian Guardsmen, as the symbol on their right shoulder pads indicates. ;)
they also had the purple eyes of those born on cadia
Yeah sodaz could have use another regiment instead of overused Cadians.
@@STARGUN8687 ehh cadians them selves arnt really overused its the "templet" with most regiments being essentually copys of cadians (aside from the beloved flavor regiments such as the kriegers vostroyan firstborn and so on) the fact that sodaz put the effort to make it specifically cadian (the eyes and insignias) shows for better or worse that they did not want it to be generic cadian templet guardsmen but rather cadian guardsmen themselves which much like krieg is the only viable export of the now lost world of cadia but just to put this out there GW could of chosen any of the guard patterns to be the standard and we could of vary well of seen if things went differently the kriegers as the generic because of this that wouldnt of ment the kriegers were themselves overused but rather the templet itself.
Normal guard: Advance behind the walking tank called space marine for protection.
Kriegers: Advance *in front* of the space marine for protection.
Normie: hide behind the Astartes
Kriegers: Protect the Astartes with a human wall
@@epicslayerguy99 They gladly gave their lives to protect one of the Emperor's Angels.
There's a lot to like in this video.
First, even though this is a Krieg focused video the Cadians weren't shortchanged. They fought well and with bravery. Hell, one of the Cadians charged a Black Legionnaire without hesitation. Hard to tell, but it really feels like the Cadians and Dark Angels could have beaten the heretics back if the Chaos Space Marines hadn't shown up.
It wouldn't be a Krieg video if there wasn't an entrenchment tool kill in it.
An interesting bit of meta info. Sodaz is South Korean and likely has served their military conscription time.
Make perfect sense, they had to serve 2 years iirc
i bet in the final moments of that Kriegmen's life with the bomb against the Berserker he was smiling and thinking "thats it, right where we wanted you to be traitor"
The last successful cavalry charge, during World War II, was executed during the Battle of Schoenfeld on March 1, 1945. The Polish cavalry, fighting on the Soviet side, overwhelmed the German artillery position and allowed for infantry and tanks to charge into the city.
Technically there was one even more recent than that. Seen that Netflix movie 12 Strong? It was inspired by a mission in 2001 during the invasion of Afghanistan wherein a group of Americans were sent along with 600 Northern Alliance men on horseback to navigate rough terrain and identify Taliban positions for bombardment. On October 23rd, one of their airstrikes was off target and the Taliban were alerted to their presence, it was at this time that the Americans and Northern Alliance General decided to charge the Taliban position on their horses. Somehow it worked, and it remains the only recorded case of a cavalry charge to ever take place successfully in the 21st century.
That's not a pure cavalry charge since was operated with direct support of armored units.
The last charge operated by only cavalry units was the one carried by the Regio Esercito's battalion named Savoia Cavalleria (i.e. Savoia's cavalry) at something called Isbuschenskij (sadly I've butchered that name) when Italian riders and Ukrainian Kazakhs enlisted in the Savoia Cavalleria charged soviet emplacements during Operation Barbarossa in 2.WK.
I love it how W40K cinematics universally apply the Doomguy-grin on all grown men including me as a side effect
The kriegsman who blew up didn't just have grenades in his hand! He also had some kinds of explosives he hid in his trench coat that began beeping :D
he overload his lasgun
I think it was two bundles of dynamite or at least that’s what it looked like
Kriegsman: THE EMPEROR IS GREAT "explosion sound"
@@voidstrider801 Hellsing Ultimate abridged reference?
Krieg require highly trained officers to prevent them from charging or holding impossible lines. Krieg memes of a lone soldier charging a Chaos Knight with a shovel is actually more than accurate, it is commonplace. Krieg know no surrender or fear. The best part of this animation is that it highlights the Krieg levels of dedication. Krieg are more fearless than some Astartes and the inquisition actively fear the Krieg...
Every World Eater became a Berzerker, but not every Berzerker was a World Eater. The Iron Warriors had large numbers of them as well, they were well known for going a little crazy when they finally cracked a seiged target open. All it takes to be a berzerker is to have your brain rewired with something akin to the Butcher's Nails (or suffer a similar effect from some kind of Chaos curse, like the Crimson Slaughter), and while the World Eaters were the best at that, lots of other warbands do it.
Also "admire" the Krieg might be a strong word. Most other regiments respect their dedication and single mindedness, while also thinking they're absolutely pants on head crazy. lol
I thought I saw a World Eaters sigil on the berserker's pauldron.
About your comment on Kriegs not talking during most videos, if you look back at AbsolutelyNothings video you will see that the only time we hear a kriegsman talk is in a secure environment. The only reason they were talking was because it was the commanding officer who was trying to figure out where their allies were as well as coming up with a strategy to complete their orders. The rest of the video we see that the kriegsmen are in combat and are not talking. In all videos of Kriegsmen that I have seen they have only been in combat. They are not known for their tactics, In ANs depiction that strategy that they came up with was literally charge the enemy, but for their proficiency on the battle field.
Kreig commanders are known to talk to other kreig when over radio as in the siege of vraks when they try to overrun a position
They also may have internal voxes.
"you have permission to die only when the emperor decrees it and not a moment sooner"
-krieg
It makes total sense that the space marine in front the dark angel would be able to see that heretic because they are genetically modified to have night vision
I'd say it has less to do with night vision than having an Auspex in his helmet...
AUSPEX: short-ranged, Imperial passive and active sensor device used to detect and analyze multiple inputs, including motion, invisible gases and directed or ambient energy emissions across a wide band of the electromagnetic spectrum.
This includes such emissions as heat, radiation, plasma and most other forms of electromagnetic energy given off by vehicles and living troops as well as the molecular composition of various substances found in a given environment.
An Auspex's main tactical use is for triangulating the location of otherwise hidden enemy forces so that they can be fired upon by Imperial troops. The standard range of an Auspex is fifty metres
True true
I actually wonder what exact design those spears have. There wasn't much explosion so it seems like it's not just regular explosive, but that it explodes in one direction. If I were to guess, I'd say it has to be similar to shaped-charge anti-tank poles that Japanese had in WWII but I'm not sure how effective that could be when there has to be spearhead in front of it.
well i did notice on the spear what looked like a german anti tank grenade that was also seemingly used by the kriegsman who blew up an m 24 stick grenade i believe it was called
the rest however is just a normal spear idont think it has to do anything with the japanese boom stick
@@deathkorpofkriegguardsmen6235 Yes, it looked like that, but due to lack of explosion (and due to such amount of explosives being capable of definitelly killing the wielder and his mount) it has to be something else than just normal anti-tank explosives at the end of the spear.
@@fanta4897 agreed i will look further into this matter too see if i can find any other weapons we can compare those to for rigth it lloks like being japanese boom stick reskined as a spear with an anti tank grenade
look up Hunting Lance on the 40k wiki, TL:DR its basically a one off power weapon.
I can’t wait for a Steele legion or Catachan Jungle fighters vid if they make one
Also and this is my own opinion
The Krieg Mirror the South Korean Troops who volunteered to assist allies in the Vietnam war
Feared for their brutality and eagerness to prove themselves
The South Vietnamese welcomed the Koreans just like they welcomed the other nations fighting for their freedom, and South Koreans felt much sympathy to the South Vietnamese, because they too had their nations split North/South with the Communists holding the North, and the full power of their people diminished by being unable to focus on industry due to constant threat of war... and the North being backed by China.
They sympathized with their own situation in 1950 when they desperately needed militaries from other nations (UN in the case of Korean War) to fend them off when Korea had literally 0 tanks in their arsenal and had to fighting off North Korea fielding tons of Stalin's T34s. And being the helper this time, eagerly hated the commies who would butcher the innocents (see: 6000 civilians raped and killed in the Hue Massacre, by NV and Vietcong) and also eagerly went on missions to distribute supplies to the local populace, it was thought being the only Asian ally helped approach the South Vietnamese.
But nobody was allowed to invade North Vietnam, precisely because America was worried the war would escalate by China participating if the Allies pushed up northward in an attempt to eliminate the communists once and for all... just like what happened in the Korean War of 1950. (Much of the fighting was both with North Vietnamese invading from North and Vietcong insurgents creeping into the South via a 3rd country called Laos, which acted as a route to side step the heavily defended North-South border... kind of like Germany side-stepping the French-German border's Maginot defense line in WW2, by walking through Belgium instead)
(China aiding the Vietnamese communists took a change in 1979 when China invaded Vietnam which unified in 1976. Because Vietnam was having a war with the Chinese puppet regime of the Khmer Rouge who were ruling Cambodia and responsible for the Killing Fields. The Sino-Vietnam War had a bizarre occurrence of American weapons left there for the South Vietnamese government before America pulled out in 1974)
among the people who have matched and even defeated khornate berzerkers, ciaphas cain managed to hold his own against a berzerker for a time, and his aide ferik jurgen killed it with a point blank melta blast
Ciaphas is the definition of "I roll Nat20", I love him 😂
CI-CI-CIAPHUS CAIN HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!!
@@emjaaaay
Ciaphas: I imply to the lord general that I prefer a quieter post away from the fighting.
DM: Roll Persuation.
Ciaphas: uh...Nat 1...
DM: The lord general agrees to your request and assigns you to a post that has been oddly quiet as of late.
Ciaphas: goddammit.
I think I would of like it if the Korne Berserker was just getting overwhelmed at the end because the Kriegers just kept coming and doing enough damage that through attrition he got worn out and eventually enough of them begin beating him to death with shovels
14:27 Fun Fact: the camo you see on the heretic soldier is actually the Autumn camo for the Waffen SS
The artillery guns are also actual ww1 artillery guns
Usually the DKOK Cav is usually called deathriders and are most likely the next generation of krieg officers due to them doing an act of true worth they would then be bestowed a name which is an honour abouve dying as a kriegsman
Just a nit pick but Leman Russ was the Primarch of the space wolves not dark angels although they did have quite the rivalry.
all i can here when ever i hear leman russ is "****YOU LEMAN YOU FURRY ****" when ever magnus is reminded that he doesn't have a spine
Yeah I think having the dark Angel on screen tripped me up
@@Counterpoints happens to all of us
SPACE WOLFS!?
Que kitten screaming "NOT AGAIN"
Krieg Guardsman taking out a Berserker ain't as impressive as taking out a Chaos Battle Titan during the Siege of Vraks Prime
Now imagine if there were "Kriegsmarines" in their ranks...
*shudder*
It's a bit surprising they haven't came up with that. But then again, maybe they don't have them because they don't want to go soft.
now the question remains
Would that be the Krieg Navy
Or the Krieg Marines
You are somewhat mistaken with the Kriegers, they are not all vat grown. Nothing I have learned about them would suggest that. The vitae wombs that they were commissioned after putting in a request is more likely used as a supplemental tool for them.
Because remember immediately after winning their war and rejoining the imperium, despite the horrendous conditions of their world. Didn't offer one, not two or five, hell not even ten Regiments.
They offered twenty fully trained, and equiped Regiments that requested the harshest battlefronts that can be offered. Considering this and the sparse supplies they would have been working with through their entire history.
The fact Krieg was able to produce entire armies once a unheard of level of supplies was being pumped into the planet should offer little surprise if our history has shown anything.
Thus the vitae wombs were and still likely are used to assist with not only the production of their army, but possibly their general population. Allowing them to recover far faster then they otherwise would.
Finally the Quartermaster didn't kill you off if you couldn't return to the line yourself necessarily. They would do so if the costs to save you and bring you back to service would be far too high. Because if the resources to save you could save two others. It wasn't worth the cost to do so.
This being far less of an issue though once rejoining the imperium, since they had more resources and tools to work with. However it could still be practiced if the circumstances would demand this action.
The main role of the Quartermaster is NOT the role of field medic. His primary role is to recover the equipment. If a Kriegsman is seriously wounded and/or cannot at least crawl back to the lines on his own, he becomes a liability and a burden, so is mandate of the Quartemaster to bless him with the "Emperor's Peace", a rapid and honourable field execution. Than the Quartemaster can retrieve any viable equipment and re-distribute as per needs. Krieg men are replaceable easier than their equipments. So yes, the Quartemaster field triage is exactly that: U walk? Good. U don't? May the Emperor bless your soul, but I need those trousers. And those boots. :)
@@francescovolpe1285 The main thing is however is if the soldier can be recovered and brought back to service they would. Because a soldier that can return to fighting or some other useful purpose is one less that will need to be shipped in. Like a Lasgun or power pack, the question remains is if the resources required would be worth it or not. If it would cost too many resources to restore a Lasgun, then salvage what you can that can be reused then get rid of what can't.
This applies to the individual soldier as well, the difference is that the resource problem isn't as pressing for them as it used to be before hand.
@@redstar248 the point is exactly that: is it worth the effort? For Krieg’s mentality most of the times the answer is “nope”. They are not like other Imperial Guard regiments (I refuse the new “Astra Militarum shit), where the life of a Guardsman actually could mean something. For Kriegsmen, life is a tool exactly as lasgun powerpack, they are grim and somewhat callous in this, because their history made them that way. That’s why the Quartemaster is not a real medic, is more a battlefield scavenger and eventually a medic. 😅
@@francescovolpe1285 True to an extent, but not completely. The Quartermaster rarely operates alone, they always have assistance to help with the recovery. I do not know what you are specifically referencing, but you make them seem quite wasteful. While there would be a limit to how much they would pour into recovering a linemen, that limit when they are well supplied is far higher then they historically could before now.
If they lost a leg they could give them a prosthetic then toss them back to the line. They die, then you can take the prosthetic and reuse it after a few adjustments.
This would also depend on how quickly they can get replacements in Krieg. If this one can brought back to the field faster then one can be shipped in. Then you would do so.
They are callous but they do not waste as much as others would if it can be helped. The key factors are time and resources, and the recovery of a life is identical to the equipment it is covered in in this regard.
@@redstar248 ehmm, what I say is what is written on the Death Korps background books, so I can assure you, I’m right. 😄 Believe me or not, but I assure you it’s true. I was there, when Kriegs books where being written. 😄 Literally.
Also since Kreigers are teenagers I could also see why they wouldn't talk. Imagine reporting to some Guardsmen Commander and your voice cracks.
normal people: death is not an option
kriegers: living is not an option
In life, war. In death, peace. In life, shame. In death, atonement.
One of the best stories about these guys was when chaos Marines were overwhelming a defensive Netwerk and the krieg unit told the other Guard units (who where mainly green and from other worlds) to fall back as they then held the tunnels... and these were heavy veteran Krieg who where in their 20’s so for most of the chaos marines it was impossible at times to advance without finding themselves under heavy fire... though when they finally took out the last of the Krieg they would find one last officer looking at the imperial symbol praying and with arrogance would start mocking him...until he said the word “atonement” and proceeded to pull out a detonator connected to a bomb which had roughly the same power as the fat man and as guessed set it off
Only thing worse than an ambush? Being LATE to one.
,, Geneticly altered 8ft tall warriors and then to stab them with spears armed with dynamite."
Sounds normal to me.
Also on a side note, the last cavalry charge, that was also sucsesful was in ww2 by the Italians. That I got from The Armchair historian in the video ,, When the Italians were good" if I recal. Mind bogling that in The Second World War a cavelery charge worked!
The Polish also did multiple successful cav charges in WW2 both as an independent nation in 1939, and as a Satellite State of Russia in 1945. In 1939, their cavalry managed to out perform German Motorcycle Scouts and Infantry near the closing bits for the Battle for Poland, and if I recall a Polish Cavalry group performed a Cavalry charge against German Artillery in 1945 and managed to route the Artillery clearing a path for Soviet Infantry and Tanks.
The tank is called Leman Russ, after the primarch of the space wolves. And as they are Scandinavian inspired they would pronounce it "Lee-Man" rather than "Le-mon"
the leman russ battle tanks are pronounced 'Lee-man Russ'. named after the primarch of the space wolves
is it Lee-man or Layman? I've heard it both ways
@@davidvanvranken1595 according to every warhammer audiobook and any time i have seen them mentioned in the livestreams (and most youtube videos) it is Lee-man
space marines are very hard to kill
Kriegers: casually kill 2 black legionnaire and a khorne bezerker
What's funny is Kriegers is German for warriors.
You don’t see Kriegsmen without their masks because back in their history an entire chunk of their command was wiped out by a chemical attack. As a result, they took to wearing their masks at all times just in case and it became part of their culture. If I remember correctly, Kriegsmen are trained to view their mask as their actual face and even call it their face.
Just to point out: The Rough Rider 'Hunting Lance' isn't covered in dynamite or simple explosives. It's ringed in shaped charges. These things are proof against IFV's and light armored vehicles, let alone Astartes plate!
The Warsaw-Pact style headgear on the tank commander is just the perfect aesthetic touch.
There were cavalry charges in WWI as well, The Australian Light Horse at Beersheeba in 1917 and British at the Battle of Amiens in 1918 are notable ones.
I'm so happy to find another person who uses the term "schwacked" when someone gets fucking merked xD
I also like how at the beginning, the Kriegsmen stare at the Cadians so judgmentally, like they’re disgusted by how “unfaithful” they were.
Idk about looking them as 'unfaithful' as more of "You think you're real soldiers? Next to us, you're just boy scouts."
@@TheCoffeeCatDad you right. The reason I said unfaithful was because Cadian guardsmen have a reputation of running away, and need Commissars to prevent said cowardice. This could be seen as not having faith in the emperor to carry you through the battle. Meanwhile the Krieg deliberately charge into the worst battlefields without ANY chance of cowardice.
I'd say there were about twenty-one dead Kriegers. Two Death Riders, two from an autocannon while assaulting the trench, a fifth from a heretic bayonet, six and seven from the autocannon in the tunnel, three from the World Eater barreling through the door, the rest were trying to kill him, apart from the last one who martyred himself.
A friend of mine who is very deep into WH40K lore told me that the armor the Khorne berserker had was a Mark 3 armor, an armor designed for close combat in reduced spaces, and almost all of the armor is on the FRONT.
Imagine the efforts the Kriegsman have done to find a living "horse" in 40k & breed them...
Define horse
They had 500 years to perfect there horses.
It's in there lore that during there civil war that the death Riders grew in importance's as the tanks they had slowly broke down from over use and lack of spare parts. This of course doesn't take into account the tanks that got blown the fuck up.
The stalker bolter actually looked like a Tigris / Tigrus bolter. I might be wrong but the muzzle and straight magazine rather than the sickle magazine points to the Tigris. Stalker could be a designation for any long range bolter however so I may be mistaken. Also bravo on calling out the crack missile as AP rather than shrapnel!
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I've watched a few other channels where vets 'review' movies stuff. Most are *decent*, but boil down to 'yeah this is cool action go see it'.
I like how you do detailed breakdowns in laymans terms.
the last effective use of masse charge of cavalry was (IIRC) during 1940, in poland. Poles used a lightly equipped (with bolt action rifles and a few AT rifle) to charge a nazi offensive, breaking the offensive. When the mechanized german troops arrived however, the poles fell back to not be anihilated. another was during the first world war, a groupe of (IIRC again) french cav kind of "charged" from greece into bulgaria (making them capitulate) and then to vienna, ending their "charge" a few days AFTER the end of the war.
I don't think Commissars admire Krieg; they're the only guys who won't put up with the Commissars' crap, at least according to you.
When moral is thrown to the wind where even commisar aren’t actually needed then by all means, and that’s what makes them soo unique whereas with cadia they would be the Americans where they value their life because, every life saved is another one for the next battle, but krieg, they don’t care and whilst yes they are fanatical to the point where it would make a black Templar blush, they aren’t stupid they do value their lives since that’s pure basic instincts however they won’t die for no reason (ISIS🤣😂) but will happily kill them selves in order to complete a mission ie blowing up a pill box and I would truly love to see an encounter where a krieg regiment has to fight with the mecarbian janisaries 🤣😂😂, shots would be all over the place 🤣😂, but as I said as long as their will to fight and die out weighs that of their enemies then the battle is already won, it’s just about knowing when
yeah, the death korp may welcome death in the name of the emperor, but they do not welcome needless sacrifice. they know when they are outgunned, they know when they are outmaneuvered, and unless they have been ordered to take or hold a position at all costs they are not afraid to fall back if it becomes apparent that they are just throwing men away for no gain or to reorganize for a counter attack. but if they have been ordered to take or hold a position at all costs, emperor help the opposition at that position as each kriegsman will fight with all their strength unto their dying breath because orders are orders, and a good kriegsman does not question orders from his superiors.
That charge you're describing was the famous Charge of the Light Brigade! Also not the last use of a cavalry charge, they were used at the start of WWI and iirc even WWII
I think some Polish Cavalry did a successful charge at the end of WW2. There were definitely successful cavalry charges into the 1920s after WW1.
The Cavalry Charge was indeed a British Cavalry charge in the battle of Balaclava. Light Cavalry was mistakenly ordered into a frontal charge on Russian artillery, as immortalised in the poem, 'Charge of the Light Brigade'. I really like this animation, but I kind of wish the Chaos marines had finished off their targets before the cavalry charge. I think it would have had more impact and it doesn't make sense that they would just let them off. Having said that, this is way beyond anything I'd be able to create and I'm really grateful to Sodaz for giving us this.
@Acroselorator Oh yeah, there's a number of perfectly valid rationalisations you can make here, and I like your thinking. It might be that Sodaz wanted to make the Death Korps actually save some people for dramatic effect. In any event its all good.
I just imagine that Krieger at the end looking at the Cadian thinking, “Get better, or get out.”
*Berserker stabs Death Korps of Krieg*
Krieg's man: I'm ready! How about you?
12:40 That was the charge of the light brigade. Awesome poem by the same name of that event.
I love how they show the size comparison between humans and the space Marines , that dark Angels big ole thick boy
didn't know krieg guardsmans are mostly still kids,it's amazing that bunch of kids manage to defeat chaos marines
While everyone seem to believe that our favorite shovel boys are stoic and silent (which they are..most of the time) as a military personnel (thank you for your service) it’s kinda strange what you find that they talk weird strange, the concept they don’t talk at all which is detrimental in combat is kinda dumb (awesome video can’t wait for the next one!)
I mean they wouldn't work in real life
the last cavalry charge is remembered to be the Charge of the Savoia Cavalleria at Izbushensky during WW2
Actually when japan invaded the Philippines during ww2 there was a cavalry charge by the last cavalry unit in the U.S. army. They were the 26th cavalry regiment and during the retreat to bataan provided the stoutest and only serious resistance to the japanese forces. they even defeated a japanese tank assault at binaloan.
So the interesting thing about the Krieg horses is that they are heavily modified, those horses don't feel pain and they will not stop unless their brain is blown off and they are really fast too.
Everyone: Space Marine Bolter go “Boom Boom, Doom Doom”
Counterpoints: Space Marine Bolter go “Swack Swack” 😂😂😂
The thing about kriegers: it's not that they see no value in their life, it's that if they (or their superiors) think it's worth it, they will die to take it.
they will most likely ignore wounds on other kriegers or themselves if it's a minor wound, but if something that would keep them out of the fight they will be killed.
they don't *try* to get themselves killed, but their mindset is that if they die for the emperor, following their orders, then they did their job and so what if they die?
What you are referring to is the charge of the light brigade, but the last massed cavalry was in the tge 20th century during WWII on the eastern front
Bit late, but wanted to comment on your cavalry charge bit: The most recent use of a massed cavalry charge (that actually worked) was at the battle of Beersheba in 1917 when the Australian 4th Light Horse brigade charged the defending Ottoman trenches & managed to punch through the enemy lines. This battle was featured in the Young Indiana Jones Chronicles, which is where I first heard about it.
I was waiting for you
Thats the creepiest thing Lorgar could ever say to me only possibly worse if it was Samus or Erebus.
@@Counterpoints :)
Only Death Kriegers have the balls to use Rough Rider regiments the way they should: Mass frontline charges, trampling over anything smaller than Space Marines underfoot.
Actually, if they could...
Everyone in the 41st millennium: laser guns, Bolters, quake cannons etc.
Death Korps of krieg: How to assemble and use your weapon
step 1 fasten together a bunch of grenades.
step 2 attach grenade assembly to pointy end of stick.
step 3 stab enemy with pointy end of stick while riding a horse whose blood has been entirely replaced with every performance enhancing drug known to mankind.
My favorite tidbit of Krieger lore has to do with the Commissariat. Commissars are typically a means to boost morale and make sure the unit is moving in the right direction AKA towards danger. NOT FOR KRIEGERS! Instead of pushing guardsmen to the frontline, Krieg commissars try and stop Kriegsmen from getting themselves killed. Kriegers have such little regard for their own life, that the men and women who would execute them for running the wrong direction are instead trying to keep them alive.
I like to use this analogy since it is so true. The DKoK are vicious attack dogs. Hounds of Hell. Devil Dogs. Their only desire is to rip and tear the enemy apart. The Commissar is the collar and leash to the Krieg. So you have the God Emperor of Mankind (Owner) who has his Krieg (Dogs of war) and their Commissar (Caretaker).
Hey man, just wanted to say, love these 40K breakdown videos, big 40K fan and it’s cool to learn a bit of military history at the same time
If objective A is a bunker on a hill
You will use tanks as fire support, gunships for air support, fighters for air superiority, armored personnel carriers for rapid insertion and so on
If I recall on the thoughts regarding the Crimean War, that'd be the famous Charge of The Light Brigade, during the Battle of Balaclava. Basic gist of it was some manner of mixup led to the Light Brigade of British cavalry being committed to an assault on a hill where the Russians had an artillery position. Despite the losses they did evidently manage to drive the Russian forces off the hill, but were themselves driven off afterward, not helped by the artillerymen retaking their position and peppering them with grapeshot and canister shot. There was a Heavy Brigade present as well, that fared much better during the battle.
As for the title of "last true cavalry charge" there's quite a few historical contenders. One contender would include an American cavalry charge during the Battle of Geurrero in 1916, part of the Pancho Villa Expedition. There were also a few charges in the Middle Eastern theater of WWI, usually by mounted infantry. A notable example would be the Battle of Beersheba, by Australian mounted infantry.
There's also the famous meme about Polish cavalry charges during WWII. As with most of the WWI examples of successful charges, the ones that did happen involved Polish mounted infantry engaging German infantry and occasionally German cavalry, with a fair bit of success. "Polish cavalry charging tanks" became a meme used by both sides for different propaganda purposes due to instances of armored vehicles seeing off cavalry who were attempting to engage infantry.
Funny enough, there's also at least one case where German cavalry scouts decided to charge some Polish infantry they encountered, only to run into Polish tankettes.
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you are thinking about the charge of the light brigade, which was not the last use of mass cavalry in war.
the last accepted use of cavalry in a charge was 1 March 1945, when polish cavalry fighting alongside the Russians charged and overran a German artillery position. Losing 7 men (supporting infantry list 124) while inflicting 500 casualties to the Germans.
other notable charges are
US 7th cav, 29 March 1916 (victory)
Australian light horse, the battle of Beersheba: 31 Oct 1917 (victory)
1st kings dragoon guards on 16 May 1919 at Dakka (last use of cavalry by British army)
and the last great cavalry charge bt a European army was done by Franko's forces at the battle of Alfambra on 5 Feb 1938
Khorne berserker, a potentially 10000 years old supersoldier clad in tank armor: Exists
Krieg Guardsman with grenades: I'm about to end this man's whole career.
The Death Riders of Krieg are very much in the 9th edition of tabletop, they are now one of the better screening units for Imperial Guard.
There's a saying amongst guard players that guardsmen get 4 things when they join the guard: your t-shirt flak armor, your flashlight lasgun, your imperial primer for toilet paper, and a imperial guard sanctioned wheelbarrow for your BRASS F**KING NUTS.
12:00 There was no "battle of Crimea". It's the Crimean war (1853-1856). The Charge of the Light Brigade during the Battle of Balaclava was a famous debacle, but it was made against a Russian line equipped almost entirely with Napoleonic weapons*, so it was not a sign of changing times. The blunder was one of communications and coordination. The brigade received confusing instructions and attacked a more heavily defended target than they were supposed to. The guns they were charging into were not more modern than what you would have found on the Napoleonic battlefield, but that they were charging headlong into any guns at all was an enormous blunder (even Napoleonic artillery can fire cannister shot, which will tear enormous gashes into just about any formation, and since horses are such big targets even solid shot is a greater threat to them than it would normally be).
The last regular use of mounted horse cavalry was WW1 (cavalry tactics of WW1 are actually pretty interesting (the British had a slightly different concept than the continental armies), but there isn't time for that now). I went to some effort to look up the last mass cavalry charge and it turns out to be as late as WW2, although some smaller actions may have occurred as late as the 1970's in Rhodesia. In 1942 on August 23rd 600 Italian cavalrymen charged Soviet positions on the Don river. They suffered predictably heavy casualties, but succeeded in closing the distance and drove the Soviets off while tossing grenades and slashing with their sabers. There were a handful of other charges earlier in the war as well, including one made by the Americans in January of that same year in the Philippines against the Japanese, actually driving them off temporarily, but the rest were not as successful. Of course what would really bring an end to horse cavalry wasn't modern rifles or machineguns or artillery, but the development of armored vehicles which were fast enough and reliable enough to replace horses.
*I can't actually find whether the Russian guns were smoothbores or rifled. I can guess that they were smoothbores since I did find a source that said the Russian artillery was re-armed with rifles in 1860 in response to lessons from the Crimean War, implying they weren't rifled in 1854 (during the battle of Balaclava). In any case, a smoothbore gun is more than good enough to hit a mass of cavalry charging right at you (there are situations where it will make a big difference whether your guns are rifled or not, but this was not one of them (you aren't going to turn a gun fast enough to hit an individual horseman anyway)), and even if they were rifled they were still muzzle loaded.
Actually, the last "Succesfull" Cavalery Attack was during the 1870 War between France and Prussia. Out of 800 Prussian Cavalery men, only 420 survived, succesfully silencing French Artillery.
12:03 the reference here is the charge of the light brigade, where british light cavalry charged russian guns backed up by infantry. It was caused by miscomunication in the british command, and resulted in a 40% casualty rate amoung the light brigade. it was not, however, the last major use of cavalry, as cavalry would see continued use through both world wars, for instance by polish dragoons against the nazi invasion. the last successfol cavalry charge was in 1945, when polish cavalry, fighting on the side of the soviets, overwhelmed a german artillery position with lances and sabres.
Space Marines have multiple backup organs, so they don't usually die as easily.
The charge of the british light brigade was nearly not the end of cavalry charges. In the first world war european powers still used cavalry charges if the time was right. On the eastern front it was also pretty common for cossacks or hungarian hussars (both known for devastating hit and run tactics and sudden charges) to charge the enemy if it wasn't suicide (and engage eachother). Also, there were some pretty big cavalry battles (e.g. battle of komarów, after ww1). My great grandfather was a hussar in the hungarian army of ww2, his regiment supposedly charged the russians. They failed (grandparents aren't the best objective source, but its a fact that we still used hussars) and got decimated (but some italians succeeded with one of their charges, you can google it). It never ended, its just extremely rare today.
12:00 the example you're thinking of actually wasnt the last cavalry charge of the 19th century, there was one in the opening months of the second world war, polish cavalry charged german tank divisions invading poland, they were slaughtered, but it spurred the allies to declare war on germany. Another example was 1942 in the phillipines the american 26th cavalry division armed with pistols charged and briefly scattered japanese troops but later were forced to eat their own horses as they were starving.
Also it should be noted, krieg horses are no ordinary horses, they may be descended from the terran horse, but they are far different, they are tailor bred, and genetically augmented in their own right to be the perfect war horse, and kriegsmen cavalry are called death riders.
We all know that khorn berzerker was smilling at the end right ? Like damn kid You got me linda smile
The amount of force behind these dagger swings is crazy, ppls head exploding, if it was a blunt force object, that’s one thing, but this a sharp sword.
The Leman Russ tank can be outfitted with many different weapons. But the main Battle Cannon rounds are high explosive. They are blast weapons, the explosive diameter is larger than the tank.
12:00
You're referring to the Charge of the Light Brigade and it was indeed British cavalry. It wasn't just a boneheaded move though, as even at that point, every commander knew that charging cavalry straight at artillery was a dumb idea. The problem was a miscommunication in orders! A Russian gun battery was being forced to retreat by the heavy fighting and the British Field Marshal, viewing the battle from the high ground, gave orders to the Light Brigade to capture the retreating guns, as while they were limbered up, they couldn't fire. The Light Brigade's commander, however, was in the low ground in a valley and the only guns he could see was a battery that was still very much in the fight. When he received his orders, he committed his forces to the charge, thinking that his commander meant for him to charge the battery at the end of the valley, only to be hammered by not only artillery, but also rifle fire from the valley slopes, as he charged.
Also, you're not quite correct about the Charge of the Light Brigade being the last use of a traditional cavalry charge in warfare. In WW1, there was the last major engagement of cavalry on cavalry, with I believe British forces fighting the Ottoman Empire in North Africa. Following WW1, there was the Polish-Soviet war, where in 1920, a massed charge of the Polish 4th and 5th Cavalry Brigades, resulted in the complete loss of the Soviet 44th Rifle Division and 1st Brigade of the 58th Rifle Division, as well as the Poles driving a wedge between the Soviet 14th and 12th Armies and the capture of the vital railway hub and supply depot at Koziatyn - a victory that would ultimately decide the entire fate of the war in Poland's favour! Following this in 1942, Philippine cavalry and the US 26th Cavalry Regiment armed with pistols, scattered a Japanese attack and later that same year, 600 Italian cavalrymen on the Don river, forced the retreat of 2000 Soviet infantry, despite staggering losses.
This is of course, to say nothing of smaller-scale charges that apparently occurred into the 1970s, as well as the role that highly mobile mounted infantry, acting much the same way that 19th-century Dragoons would have done, still play in conflicts in Africa and the Middle East.
uh. Lee-Man Roose (Leman Russ) is the primarch of the Space Wolves chapter, Lion El Johnson is the primarch of the Dark Angels. His name is Leman Russ and it takes directly from the historical name of the same for the swedish settlers along the Volga known as the Rus, or those who row. The Dark Angels and Space Wolves have a long standing rivalry.
A World War One Allied General said ‘if your troupes aren’t taking casualties from your rolling barrage there too far back’
The Charge of the Light Brigade you mentioned was British cavalry attempting to take a position of Russian artillery during the Crimean War. They were supposed to hit one battery in the flank, but a mistake on the messenger's part, combined with poorly written orders had them charging straight across a wide open field at a different battery, resulting in them getting fired on by both sets of gun and leaving the entire brigade utterly devastated.
But the Light Brigade reached the Russian gun line, sabred the gunners and charged on, routing a Russian cavalry unit. They were then recalled and retreated the same way they’d come in. Losses were 100-odd killed and 160 wounded out of 670.
@@DrCrispycross I thought is was the Heavy Brigade's follow up charge that actually made it across the field and did the damage.
@@terrorcop101 No, the Heavy Brigade was withdrawn by Lord Lucan because he thought the charge was doomed and he didn’t want both his brigades destroyed. This left the Lights with no support, so they took a gun-line, routed the Russian light cavalry, then had to turn around, force their way back through the same cavalry and run the gauntlet of fire again. That was a bad day for them.
The heavies had earlier performed their own heroics, cutting their way through the Russian cavalry in an uphill charge. Ok, not so much a charge as a forceful trot, but they drove off their opponents all the same.
Rough riders are funky! They could move like infantry. They got a better charge range and the lance gives them initiative on the charge. The explosive lance gave them a pretty powerful one-shot punch on their first charge, they could disable a tank with those things. They were a bit costlier than normal iggies, about double the points I think. In some versions their horse has an attack as well.
Stabbing explosive spears into big monsters is apparently a civilian hunting weapon on some imperial worlds. I guess it's better than using a melta charge. They are too heavy to toss, you have to run up on the tank/monster and slap the thing on it like a sticky bomb.
To the owner of the channel. The last full calvery charge was ww1, Australian Light Horse at the battle of Beersheba, 1917. The last US cavlery assault was the fall of the Philippines.
Lore wise Kreig does, officially speaking, not use vat grown soldiers or underage soldiers. It's probable that they do and almost guaranteed but officially speaking they don't. Though that could just be the Administratum and Ad Mech looking the other way.
Also another lore point on the Kreig "horses" they are closer to a grizzly bear than a modern horse. They can take bolt rounds to the chest and keep charging.