The Messed Up Mythology of PERCY JACKSON (Part 3 of 8)
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The whole thing of Medusa saying, "It was a gift," sounds more like a coping mechanism to me. She basically cannot deal with the idea that she is being punished anymore. Therefore, she's rationalizing in order to keep her sanity.
Totally agree!
Exactly! And I see her relationship with Poseidon as gaslighty and manipulative rather than physical/sexually abusive imo
Sounds about right folks well said
Although she does seem to like our hero Percy in the books
I did really like that instead of a massive botanical garden, we got this ungodly sized storage cavern that you could actually see the progression of medusa hoard of statues
This literally couldn’t be better timing. I just finished part one and part two not even three minutes ago.
Rick Riorden is a teacher in the show too, according to IMDB.
I'm most interested in the ways they've changed various details, like Medusa's head, and the pearls.
Yeah, in the first episode. Principal/headmasters office to the left
My roommate knows nothing about Greek mythology, so this is definitely helpful to him. It’s a refresher for me, too ! Keep up the excellent work !
With all due the respect but even those from abroad from Greece that think they know about Greek mythology or history they know nothing.
I'm not saying that as an insult but they teach you the Ovid's version of mythology which is a hateful fan fiction of our original Greek mythology because when he was exiled by Rome the Greeks denied him entry so he twisted the Greek gods story from noble and power into atroceous and weak.
For example the story of medusa in the original Greek mythology Poseidon didn't even touched her, out of the 3 sisters Medusa was the only one mortal whole Euryale and Stheno were low tier ageless goddess which prompted medusa to become Athena's priestess and vowing to keep her chastity so Athena to speak to Zeus into making her like her sisters, however Medusa was too impatient and one day outside Athena's temple she saw Poseidon and tried to charm him into taking her as concubine so she'll become immortal on which Poseidon refused due to a previous woman that tricked him in a similar manner (Caenis), Athena however was watching all that from her temple and when she came to have a word with medusa she lied and tried to swift the blame on Poseidon on which Athena punished her.
That's the original Greek version, in Ovid's metamorphosis Poseidon r@p3d medusa and mind you it's one of the many stories that people got wrong since gods of Greece were nothing like Ovid's version, they weren't bad and not nearly as weak as he portraits them
And it's not the only mistakes people from outside Greece you do, I've heard many many lies and misinformation about our history and even modern day Greece as well
I love these so much! Jon have you ever considered doing a video on Lilith? I just read a novel about her and would love to see a deep dive into her mythos. I know she's more of a Judeo-Christian legend, but it seems up your alley.
Stheno and Euralae actually appear in the second Heroes of Olympus book. And guess what, They’re chasing Percy. Thalia will return to her Human Form at the end of Season 2.
Jon is such a legend for hyping up this series and the OG Percy Jackson story as well
I read all the main books in about 4 months because they were just that good 😭 I love how they're doing the series
There's an LGBTQ+ bar in my town with an artist rendering of Medusa in their sign. I had to ask why they chose Medusa and they said that it was a signal that it was a safe space like ancient Greeks used to do for abused women. I don't know if that actually happened but I like the idea of it. A quiet way to state sanctuary for those who really need help.
I don't know about before, but Medusa is definitely the symbol for the abused now which is really cool anyways
As a Greek I can tell you that this is bullshit, fan fiction.
In fact the original Greek mythology of Medusa is completely different compared with the Roman poet Ovid's version who is the one you know.
But to answer your statement no, we had no such protection symbol, especially since in the original Greek mythology Medusa tried to charm Poseidon instead of him r@p1ng her.
You see her 2 sisters were lower goddess but Medusa was mortal, she was aging.
So medusa tried to appeal to goddess Athena in order to turn her ageless like her sisters by vowing to keep her chastity but it was taking too long for Athena doing that (trying to convince Zeus) so one day as she got out of the temple of Athena that was on a small land with shallow water around it she spotted Poseidon and tried her hand on him in the hopes that she'll become his concubine so she can gain immortality.... needless to say that didn't went as expected (perhaps because Poseidon was tricked before by another woman named Caenis) and when Athena came to shit talk on meduasa for trying to break her vows but medusa fked up pretty badly when she tried to lie and throw the blame on Poseidon and at that moment Athena punished her.
That is the original Greek version in a nutshell but many people from abroad are too lazy to search it and only teach Ovid's version who hated the gods and the Romans and the Greeks (he was exiled by the Romans and was denied entry from the Greeks so he started spreading misinformation and fan fictions that portraited the gods on bad light, in the OG versions none of the atrocious acts was committed by the gods, some were by the titans though... except Zeus cheating and Hera's revenge through his lovers, that's accurate).
@@aimlessalix8066now perhaps, but the Medusa story is different in the OG mythology and in Greece there was no such thing as the one the person mentioned
@@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ Thank you! I absolutely LOVE mythology of any kind (Greek, Roman, Christian,etc) and you are correct. That is NOT the story I was told but yours has a lot of nuisance to it. I'm going to Greece in September so if you have any recommendations, I am all ears.
Hi Jon! I was curious with valentine’s day coming up if you might consider doing a “best and worst couples of ancient greece” type of video? love your channel and especially the Percy Jackson videos!
Great video, as always. It's nice to have a reference point like a show to watch your video from. I'm also glad that Ovid's take on Medusa's story isn't the only version cause it makes her ending so tragic, even for a Greek myth. Thanks for covering this and I can't wait for the rest of them.
Keep it coming Jon man! Loving this series as it definitely brings to light the stories that inspired and were adapted by Rick R!
As a fan of everything Greek mythology and your video's.. I really was afraid when I heard about this show that it would be a cheap knock off from the movies.
Im glad to see it's not and I'm definitely going to start watching soon!! Thanks Jon ❤
This is not related to the video but OMG Jon, you made it to over 1M followers!! I'm so excited for you!!!! Aside that I love this series as I love all your content. Keep up the great work!!!!
You inspired me to watch the series and the movies over again, and it is interesting seeing the exact scenes replicated from the movies, in the tv series, but in a different order, or for a different reason. I honestly loved the movies, even if they were synopsis of the novel and mythological stories. The graphics and actors were, hate to say it, better than the series kids... even if the age is more appropriate, now that they are 12 instead of 16.
Thank you. I'm really enjoying this. I think it's a really good combination, your deep dive and the show. You have answered some questions I have had, and your deep dive also has me curious, and wanting to know more about the Greek myths that the show is based on.
Thank to you i can enjoy the series itself now. Prior to your videos, i was SO CONFUSED throughout the show i was about to give up on it cus i have not much knowledge for greek myth!
*_many blessings to you❤💞_*
I saw the first Percy Jackson for a Middle school Social Studies unit on ancient Greece and the second in theaters during the summer before 9th grade.
Awesome as always thanks
I love these so much!
Love your videos man every video you make is so interesting and entertaining can't wait for the next one
Yes! I’m glad your finishing the series!
Can't get enough of this series
Great episode mate. Thanks heaps.
Gosh i love this explained series
I love your videos jon continue the awesome work
Looking forward to your next ones
Hi, Jon Solo! I saw your question earlier about the low viewership of these, so I figured I'd put in my $.02. I'm ONLY holding off on these because I plan to watch the series but haven't yet. I will absolutely catch up on the vids once I do. Thank you for all you do!
Love love love these videos about percy your mid deep dive into the lores are very entertaining plus it just reminds me of ur videos ive already seen! Love ur content
Thank you for the video
It’s so awesome that you’re covering this as we go. It makes me watch closely for the little things.
Love it John! Been caught up in life and completely forgot about your channel and these videos brought me back!
This is very well done
Im loving your Percy Jackson tv breakdowns! Please keep doing them
I have the manta sound mask and I love it. I like to listen to stories as I go to sleep.
Really love the deep dives. Currently watching the show and I enjoy your input and knowledge on the myths.
Thanks for letting us know to start looking for these episodes on Mondays. I was one who hadn't seen notifications so I will make a personal note to check for them on those days.
Love Percy Jackson, keep up the great work mate
Keep doing this
I am obsessed with this series!!! Your series.. theirs is good but damn yours is awesome!
Also, you aren't spoiling the show at all. Just knowledge.. I love it!
Now I see why you didnt talk about Medusa's punishment in the previous video lol
Medusa’s telling of her myth in this reminds me of a book called Her One Wish. A minor character (who led to the main character’s destiny changing) was assaulted by a guy….and more happened that I will not go into. And though she was restored (I think the memories were also erased) but mental scars remained. She wished she could be turned to ice so that no man would ever be harmed again.
Excellent video about Percy Jackson.
Enjoyable breakdowns!
I know it prevented Percy from seeing Medusa's face, but making her invisible also made it essentially impossible for him to aim for his target. Not a genius tactical move. But I suppose it was an attempt to make sure Percy didn't come off as a murderous psycho for assassinating her.
The oracle’s ritual sounds like getting high… sounds about right. Pretty sure every ritual including seeing the future is just getting high
Dear John as a Greek here are some interesting fun facts on how the oracle of Delphi conceived the prophecies. It's not very well known but underneath where the temple of Delphi is located there's a small natural gas field wich used to cause sulfer emissions. Also laurel leaves as harmless in general but a poisonous hallucinogen if ingested. My parents once encountered an elderly man at the ER whose wife had made hin some laurel brew for his aching back and caused him to alternate between catatonic and manic fits. So in truth the prophecies didn't just sound nonsensical they actually were nonsense the oracle would spout while high out of her mind on sulfer and laurel
Loving these videos and the new PJ series 😊 hope your doing well
This is going to sound random, but I have an eye for seeing connections between seemingly unrelated things and I’m a bodybuilder. I think you’d do very well entering the fitness content creation niche (launching a separate channel or short form content like shorts/TikTok) . You’re in great shape, explain things well, have an effortless charisma on camera, and present things with an engaging undercurrent of humor. That translates well with the rabid and loyal fitness fan base.
Ok FINE, I'll catch up on the show so I can watch these videos! Geeeezzzzzzzuh
The Oracle EXPOSED
To the ancient Greeks, nothing worse could be imagined for a woman than to be ugly. Or beautiful (Helen of Troy).
I mean you’re right for the beautiful part, because of Helen of Troy. The myth where Medusa was turned ugly is actually written by a Roman poet Ovid, because he had problems with authority. Medusa was always a Gorgon. And in the Percy Jackson series later on Medusa’s sisters saw being ugly as a good thing
just watched the Netflix series up to the latest episode and i love it. surprised Edge is there as Ares haha (YEP Spoilers!)
i miss some actions from the Movie like the Fury chases Percy at the musuem and the Hydra but what i love with the Netflix is they didnt shy away to tell the Myths like, Hephaestus story and Medusa talking to them at first about Athena and Poseidon
BUT i hate a thing with the Netflix version, its that they cut away when theres a special effects happening
Question, did Zues canonlly have daughters? I know he had a butt ton of sons, but never heard if he had any girls. Though it'll probably be a good thing considering Zues'...nasty habits.
He did. A lot but from the top of my head, Athena, Artemis, Persephone and Helen of Troy. Feel free to add if I’m forgetting someone
@@moondivine2288 -face palm- ADOY! How can I forget about Athena and the other ladies. Though I did not know about Helen of Troy being a kid of his.
@@DestaniePereira-ki1fo I remember Helen because of how interesting her birth is. Zeus seduced her mom in a form of a swan, not surprised. And she gave birth to Helen and her siblings as eggs which sounds painful. Helen’s brothers are Castor and Pollux.
Lin Manuel Miranda as Hermes was a jumpscare for me WHAT
Just commenting for the algorithm 💙❤️
shit's wild
8:52 good to know that the gods couldn’t calculate with my laurel wand from Harry Potter world 😹
9:51 why are there some depictions of Medusa with half a snake body?
Can't believe the series is monumentally better than the movie. ⚡♥️🇵🇭
I know some nickels in Clay code they trap in the mother fuckin b roll
This is off-topic and maybe ignorant for my part but how come I can play this particular video series of yours in PiP on Android?
8 parts!? I guess I won't be watching for a while. I'll keep an eye for your horror and mythology content
It’s 8 parts bc there are gonna be 8 episodes for the first season of the show
This is mythology content...? But you can expect some classic Messed Up Origins next Thursday :)
@@JonSolo that would be a good strategy. One week Percy Jackson one week regular content
So Cupid was screwing with his Uncle... Yup; He's Ares' kid. I'm also not looking forward to when they get to the book with Apollo. Alot of media (even the Percy Jackson books) completely gets him wrong and it's annoying.
Look Medusa was a monster from birth not made
Interesting with the curse vs gift thing with Medusa
As you’ve said with Daphne there are cases where these transformations are a form of protection from death or assault hence why some people nowadays would think it the case with Medusa if y’all subscribe to her being raped/manipulated by Poseidon
Also in Percy Jackson’s Greek gods Percy does mention how Poseidon was pursuing a girl named Koroneis who cried to Athena for help and was turned into a crow to escape, which Poseidon retaliates against by having a night with Medusa in Athena’s temple of all places
Also Athena’s owl as her sacred animal? It’s not just a random choice. There’s a story how this girl Nyctimene was raped/seduced by her own father and was so ashamed she refused to come out in the day, so Athena turned her into an owl out of pity or punishment (sources vary) hence the owl is her sacred animal and Nyctimene’s shame to come out by day being why owls are nocturnal
6:43 does that make Mary Poppins a Greek god what is she? What is Burt? How do they know each other? Are they both like magical like what’s going on? Can you do a breakdown on that?
Lol, am I the only one who thought that if a person used the sleep mask that they could get with Medusa?
I fully believe that turning Medusa into a human was a sexist propaganda thing by avid
It's too bad that P.L. Travers never fully appreciated how much the Mary Poppins movie meant for everybody else.
Although it is rare that a god punished another god, its happened numerous times. Ares punishing Posiedon's sons for violating his daughter, Posiedon killing his own sons for violating their mother (although they were cursed with madness and didn't do it of their own free will). Zeus punished Posiedon and another god, whose names escapes me-after they were a part of a coupe to kill and dethrone him. He takes their powers and makes them work for a mortal king for a number of years. Zeus killed his first wife bcz it prophesied that his son would do to him what he did to Crounus and what Crounus did to his father before him. He kills his sister wife by eating her, which is how Athena was born from Zeus. And there are other instances, as well. You have to remember the gods punished the Titans after the great war, and Titans were stronger, greater, more powerful, and proceeded the gods. Also Athena hated Posiedon deeply and the same vice-versa. If she wasn't so focused and consumed with insecurity and jealousy of Medusa and finally getting a reason to strike her down, she and Posiedon would've had it out. And she would've tried, and likely accomplished, punishing them both
Medusa being born a monster makes waaay more sense than her being a mortal and later on being punished by Athena .. I mean, what's the deal with her sister's,why were they turned into monsters,why were THEY punished ... ?!
In th books n in some variants of th myth 2 it's said that euryale n stheno helped medusa to enter th temple of athena, for this they 2 were also punished
Yea, a hierarchy of nepotism. 😂
Yeah I believe that oracles would give you bad news if you asked for personal reasons. That people are self-centered should get the answers they seek.
Why do we pronounce the H in Hades but not in Hermes?
Cupid is roman not greek aeros is (sorry about spelling)
Jon shot first
It was Eros, not Cupid. Cupid is the Roman version of Eros.
Fun fact - Medusa is from Ethiopia…
Where do I get to find the more Percy Jackson videos are coming in on the way not everyone really does like these videos about Percy Jackson I'm not saying that I hate the videos I like them
Interesting information about the part of poseidon forcing himself on medusa coming from the romans, i never knew that bit.
Now i wonder how much of the "greek gods are all dicks" is part of a smut campaing of conquerors (like the romans), and how much was really part of greek everyday believe.
Cupid is from Roman mythology, the Greek counterpart is Eros, come on man
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We all know Medusa was just giving an excuse for her "curse"
They turned into two male lions?
@MassageviaTele-Gramjonsolo2 What's the topic?
Greek mythology turns me off
athena is a bad mom and pesidon a deadbeat dad zeus ares and rest of the gods minus the good ones have issues hades is literally the only god who is a pretty chill dude and should have been the king of the gods 😅
Thanks a Lot Jon Solo you just ruined Percy Jackson For me!🤦🏻♀️
I do t get the whole medusa thing. Sure it's a gift that no man can ever hurt her but that also means that she can never be loved by a man too. So it's a gift and a curse
No no no no no no sorry no this show was worse than the movies, leftist Disney turn my favorite book series woke as a joke, Annabeth a white girl with haired grey Eyed Girl, is now a black girl that cannot Act, Clarice, another white girl with blonde hair is there a Arab Indian girl, there way off from the books more than the movies everywhere, Grover's portals part was basically wasted, it was all around just bad.
Trash
String of lights on wall behind you make you look like you have antennae.🪳