What Happened to the Old Flag of Luxembourg?
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2023
- Luxembourg, the small European country between the Netherlands, Belgium, and Germany, has a flag that is often confused with that of its northern neighbour, the Netherlands, though the history behind the two flags is somewhat different.
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When Dutch flags get old and bleached, they become Luxembourgian flags.
Luxembourger here , in the early 2010s we had some debates in parlement about the “Roude Léiw Fändel” and its potential usage as the new official flag of Luxembourg but ultimately the flag was deemed “too nationalistic” and “a relic of the past” and so died the hope of having an actual awesome and unique national flag :(
Some small good news: I live near the Amsterdam-Rhine-Canal, so I see a lot of ships on the canal. And ships from your country fly often the old Red Lion Flag, instead of the Red White Light Blue flag.
@@RobespierreThePoofWhy would you applaud Luxemburg for that?
@@sebe2255Because while patriotism is good, nationalism is bad. Capiche?
@@falconeshield No
@@falconeshieldThat’s very black and white.
Nationalism is just patriotic ideology, it’s just it’s been intertwined with much worse ideologies (National-Socialism), and people who use the guise of patriotism to get what they want. Nationalism is not inherently bad, it’s just gotta a bad rep, plus every modern big democratic state hates the idea of nationalism, because if smaller countries become nationalistic, they strive to gain power for themselves, which means the big democratic states lose some of their influence. And we can’t have that can we?
Holy moly old flags were so much cooler
Why is that always the case!!
Real
Yes
*laughs in Denmark*
@@pumapandora1310Yes of course, flags that have miraculously fallen from the sky are way cooler🤪 But don’t tell Hilbert about the Danish lilypads or they will have to be included in the flag...
The change of this flag is absolutely horrible 😢
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
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Why is that such a common besides being simply a not as great design it also just looks like every single germanic municipal flag
@@zwergblaubarsch.8350There are like 20 other countries in Europe alone that uses tricolour.
As a Luxembourger, thank you for this video. I'm always happy to delve into our history, especially since it's so peculiar and involves many different countries. We might speak different languages, but we BeNeLux people are truly brothers!
Never felt any connection with the Walloons tbh
@@sebe2255 Funny thing about that. I recently came across a post comparing Belgium with France as not being the same thing. Being a Dutchman myself it came across a bit weird as we naturally make the connection with the Flemish and really never really think about the Walloons. Not to be rude or anything, but that's just the way it is. Luxembourg has more meaning to us, because of Radio Luxembourg in the 60's, 70's and 80's and of course RTL which is a large broadcaster here in the Netherlands today.
do you all know eachother? are you all rich?
@@telebubba5527 Exactly, and even when people say the benelux, I tend to just forget about the Walloon people. And I literally live like 20 minutes from the language border hahaha
I would be interested in listening to that independent language
Grappig want die rode leeuw vlag lijkt ook weer op de vlag van zeeland. Bedankt voor de uitleg :)
I always enjoy seeing how you fit the Dutch anthem in every possible video, makes me laugh every time 😂
Ha. Imagine not having both of the flags in your house.
I'm an American of Luxembourgish descent, when I discovered this I bought the red lion flag right away, it looks fantastic. Our g Grandparents lived in a time when Germans weren't popular in the USA and people probably didn't know where Luxembourg was anyways so they just said they were from Alsace Lorraine.
I’m always impressed with your pronunciations. They might not be perfect to a native speaker but they’re convincing to me.
I've learned recently that a good part of my family came from Luxembourg (i'm brazilian), thx for helping me knowing more about this wonderful country!
On my dad's side the lineage was traced back quite far. The Iowa state legislature actually did a lot of the leg work on it for us.
Nice to see my country get some attention. RUclips videos on Lux often make the same recurring mistakes but this one was very well researched. Merci fir de flotte Video!
Bro, your channel is something. I like the series about Celts, such as picts and gauls. And I can say now that...
I need more. We need nore.
>obligatory Dutch reference
>W I L H E L M U S
The coolest looking flag in the world is the Welsh flag with its red dragon.
BTW I'm not Welch and I'm not descended from the Welch. I'm an American who lived in Wales for a month...
I like that the Luxemburgers call their flag a “Fändel“ bc in some german dialects this would be a diminutive of the word “Fahne” (another word for flag lol)
Interesting fact. The NATO AWACS aircraft (aircraft that are controlled and staffed by all NATO nations) are Luxembourg flagged. They are interestingly based in western Germany. But if you look at the tail markings they have the shield of the Duchy of Luxembourg (blue and white striped and red lion) and are registered to that country too
Yes, those Luxemburg Air Force Markings/ roundel are put on NATO planes, because Luxemburg has no air force of its own.
@@mardiffv.8775if Luxembourg found itself needing an air force, it'd have much bigger problems than whether it has an air force or not.
fun fact, the Province of Luxembourg, part of Belgium, uses the old flag en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_(Belgium)
You took the words right outta my mouth.
What a great video
great, love history especially from where I live, the lowlands I find there is not much (public)knowledge going around on its past thanks, Hilbert
3:25 That's almost the same as the coat of arms for Aust-Agder, Norway. It has 3 red stripes, and 2 yellow
Hello Hilbert. The lion flag looks like the de luxe version.
I remember going to Luxembourg as a kid. The coach stopped so we did not blink and miss it, but it was interesting, even if my home city of Bradford has nearly as many people and colours that the Belgians seem to have stolen, as well as half of their neighbour.
Is there any campaign for Luxembourg reunion, like the one for Flanders to separate?
No. And there isn't really any for Flanders to seperate either. Those are just hypotheses, never to become reality. Just like the unification of Flanders and the Netherlands: not going to happen.
To fuel up cheaply or why else?
@@telebubba5527There is definitely a movement for Flanders to separate, it just isn’t likely to happen now. But is far more relevant than a movement for Luxemburgish reunification because that just actually doesn’t exist
There have been a few petitions for "Luxembourgish reunification" mainly in the belgian province of Luxembourg, but they barely even reach 1000 supporters and there aren't any politicians supporting it.
However there heave been a few that have stated that in the case Belgium was to split up into Flanders and Wallonia, the province of Luxembourg should go back to Luxembourg. This is however voiced mostly by the flamish out of spite for Wallonia and not by any wallonians as they obviously want to keep it.
TLDR: No, there is no movement for reunification.
The striped Luxemburgish flag is in use as the flag of the Belgian province Luxembourg (which is the western half of the old duchy).
nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxemburg_%28provincie%29?wprov=sfla1
Yes, and that's the reason why we (Luxembourg) didn't adopt it as a national flag. Had Belgium not stolen a large chunk of our territory, our flag might have been different. 😅
@@revylokesh1783 Better be carefull, next those evil Belgians will demand you change your name to East-Luxembourg🤣
@@revylokesh1783 Belgium stole nothing, before 1839 the part that is now the Grand Duchy was part of the Belgian revolution. But during the peace deals the Dutch king demanded that territory. (Also parts of Limburg and Flanders).
That's why the first grand dukes were the Dutch kings
(Sorry for the probably unnecessary history lesson)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1839)
Odd fact, DNA tests don't recognize Luxembourg, we're Americans with Luxembourgish blood but DNA tests just say Belgium..
I have this habit of collecting the flags of every country I visit.
Last year, during a visit to Luxembourg, I went into a shop to keep my "tradition" going as usual, and there I found both the official one and the historical one with the red lion.
Guess which one I got?
The new flag brings embarrassment to the entire nation. It's so generic, uncreative, and uniconic.
The tricolor rage for many countries early last century was the result of free Masonic Republics being instituted with the overthrow of monarchies. Supposed to symbolize unity of different peoples.
Would be nice if we cared about foreigners opinions.
The family of Orange and Nassau were Counts of Vianden historically. As compensation for their family possessions in Fulda, they were granted the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg after the Congress of Vienna. The border of the country was adjusted to include the Castle of Vianden.
This personal union continued until 1890, when Willem III of the Netherlands died without male heir.
To make a flag out of the colours of the main Coat of Arms is quite usual.
Do not forget the Coat of Arms of Belgium is that of the Duchy of Brabant. Heir apparent of Belgium is called the Duke of Brabant. Yellow isn't a heraldic colour, it is called gold and two colours shouldn't border each other, so the red and black are separated by the metal gold.
Luxembourg did the same with their Coat of Arms. Red and blue, separated by the metal silver.
Even the Netherlands did the same with the Coat of Arms of Chalon, red and blue separated by silver.
The Princedom of Orange, ruled by the family of Chalon, has nothing to do with the colour. This association was abused by dubious groups within the Netherlands and needs not be repeated.
Prince Willem I inherited the Princedom from his cousin René de Chalon de Nassau Breda.
Apparently, the old flag was often used by the namesake Walloon province in Belgium.
I've read in the province they use both versions: the red lion and the same tricolor with the CoA in the middle, being the same red lion and strippes, plus a crown. Basically the same options the Duchy would have had
I love the subtle jokes you put in video ❤❤😂😂😂😂😅😅😊❤
I think it might be intetesting to make a video about the Benelux Union. From sepration around 1830 to cooperation anno 1944 and being the testing ground of the EU.
That coat of arms that inspired the Belgian flag is the opposite of the one for the county of Lindberg.
One is a red lion with gold tongue and claws on a white background and the other a gold lion with red tongue and claws on a black background.
Another video about the Luxembourg flag please 🫱
Fun fact: In Luxembourg the country, the horizontal tricolour is the official flag while The Red Lion is the civil flag.
In Luxembourg the Belgian province however, has The Red Lion as the official flag (with a darker blue shade) and the horizontal tricolour as the unofficial flag (with adding The Red Lion and a crown on top being in the middle as symbols).
Those lions are quite anatomically correct--perhaps in keeping with the whole lion rampant thing.
I make no apologies for the vexillological decisions of my ancestors.
Just wondering if you’ll do a video on the old Estonian flag 🟩🟪⬜️
I'm related to the Luxembourgish royal family
No worries, mate, nobody's perfect
@@Emily-ou6lq lol, course not
Seriously who thinks that looks like a lion? I could understand if they called it a lynx, but a lion?
3:00 - the one on the left looks like he just had a mouthful of hotsauce and the one on the right just realized too late that there was a worm in his apple
13:10 Yeah, Luxembourgish resident, here, you totally butchered it, but don't worry, only half of our country(400k people) speaks it anyway lol
Isn’t that just because half is Portugese for some reason
@@sebe2255 not half, a little under 25%, the rest is mainly italian, and then a bunch of other nationalities. The reason is because luxembourg needed workers for their steel mils, and they only wanted catholic workers, and because portugal's and italy's economies were in a bad shape between the 19th and 20th centuries, they were the ones that immigrated the most.
@@ryuuducat25% is still actually an insane number for just Portugese people
1:20
why am I reading Franglish?
Als Limburger hunn ech ëmmer déi fréi RTL-Noriichte gekuckt an et war einfach lëschteg, well ech se gutt verfollegen an ëmmer besser verstoen. Ech konnt ni schreiwen, mat all deene komeschen Strich a Punkten :P
As an advocate of free speech, I must ask what that lion said that had him cancelled?
I have heard the Dutch national anthem. I now like this video
Within 4 hours!
This looks like the "oversimplified logo" trend before it was cool
Old one was a lot better then shit one they got now
Very based pfp lol.
please make a video about the Ukrainian revolution of 1917-1921. In my opinion, this is one of the most interesting topics in world history!
Big Zeeland vibes
They went “Dutch”…😉
If Willem III had borne a son to live long enough with his first wife (he had 3 sons, who all died prematurely) then the Dutch king would still also be the ruler of Luxembourg. They couldn't accept a woman (Wilhelmina) in those days and so they took another branch of the house of Nassau as ruler.
@@telebubba5527Possibly, or maybe they would have just used a different excuse to become fully independent
@@sebe2255you're right, and that excuse would be Catholic vs. Protestant.
@@nmatthew7469 Maybe, though there are a lot of Catholics in the Netherlands as well. Though any excuse is good enough
Bring back the old flag.
Wait, was it "Barabont" or "Brabont"??
Neither. It is/was Brabant.
Brabant is how we spell and say it in English today.
The Dutch (no idea about belgians) that second a sounds more like a u and it’s got much less space between the first and second sylabal between a-b.
Obviously over time as result of both linguistic evolution and translation between at least 6 relevant languages in the area, you’ll see spelling variations all the time. Well into the late 1800s with widespread literacy, state standardisation, and the printing press, variations were the norm, standard spellings were rare.
@@MrCalls1 ok, yeah i meant "Brabant" not "Brabont"!
(I have a Friend whos last name is Brabant**)
@@LBCB94025 As a bonus, let me enlighten you on the etymology of "Brabant":
Etymology
From Middle Dutch brabant, from Old Dutch *brākbant (attested in Latin as pāgus brācbatensis), from Frankish, a compound of Proto-Germanic *brēk-, *brekaną (“fallow, originally 'to break'”) + *bant-, *bantō, *banti (“district, region”), which could be from Proto-Indo-European *bʰonHdeₕ₂-, *bʰonHdos- (“useful, beneficial, good”), from *bʰHdús-.[1]
The latter element is also found in other toponyms such as Oosterbant, Swifterbant and Teisterbant.
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in the top3 for worst downgrade xD
Why has almost every European country replaced their cool original flags with boring copy paste tri colors? You can barely tell many of them apart because of how similar they are.
Republicanism and for Eastern Europe, pan Slavism?
Because these original ‘flags’ were basically the coats of arms of one family that can’t possibly represent the whole nation. If only we could also get rid of those families!
@@rutgerw. You can still take their cool flags. Seems like that is only fair after centuries of peasant oppression
@@nmatthew7469 Unfortunately Netherlands hasn't gotten rid of royalty yet so we still have a lot of that nonsense🙄
Please do a video on the Pride Progress
My man really flexed his pronunciation in the first part of this video absolutely styled on my dumb American ass
Like a wookie cat king. It was awesome. They chose lameness instead. I guess they hope that they will be mistaken for someone else.
Wait a second. That Prussian coat of arms eagle is holding the elder wand. That is clearly a magic wand!
No offense, the old flag looks better
It became a toothpaste ad flag
Ah, the Austrian Empire (Kaisertum Österreich) was only established in 1806, so it could not be the opponent of the Brabant revolution.
Austrian Netherlands: 1714 and 1797. Territory of the Burgundian Circle of the Holy Roman Empire. Has nothing to do with the Austrian Empire. We do still have weird eggshaped tops on our churches, called the Austrian Crown, at least in Amsterdam. The whole history of the Burgundians goes back to the early 1400's and includes the 80 years war.
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Luxembourg should just change their status into kingdom, like Bahrain.
Nah, being the only remaining independent Grand-duchy is kind of a flex.
So like most European flags.
Why is nobody talking about the fact all the Lions have penises?? 💀
Because they don’t. That’s just the tuft of fur. You can see it on the left leg as well.
@@Adam-326 Then why did the Dutch lionesses get rid of this ‘tuft of fur’ when they got their own logo?
When you look closely, it has both - a tuft of fur going down and a little outline going up.
But even if they did have them, why would anyone talk about them?
Am I the only one who loves tricolors much more than the goofy old flags
Yes.
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It got boring and generic, that's what happened
first!
ur lying
why is your German pronunciation so bad broooo