Excellent thank you! I have been studying the Biblical and historical Exodus and seeing the wonders of the Exodus of the Saints to these Rocky Mountains. I have been recognizing many parallels of entering the Holy Land and defeating Goliath, and establishing King David, and then a temple. We live approximately that same time from our Exodus as the Israelites were from their Exodus to their kingdom and establishing a temple. No wonder to us why David was a type for Christ, I believe we will soon receive our King of Kings.
@@smallhelmonabigship3524 History of the church is what helps me conquer what I face everyday and has helped me made this far. I know some people fall away or chooses different route when they come across some things happened in the church history in the past but this is what I know to be true is that no one is perfect. Those who were called to laid the foundation of this marvelous work were men and women just like me. They made mistakes, complained, and sure murmuring but they kept the faith and stayed true to their covenants with the most high God, they never turned back or doubt their decisions to left their homes and the world may viewed that differently but I know with all my heart that God was with them. God works in mysterious way and love those who will do His will no matter their circumstances. I am grateful for this marvelous work. I am grateful for the pioneers and their faith unwavering. I am and will try to be a good pioneer to my family, and my children. #proudmember
@@smallhelmonabigship3524Where is the Mormon church mentioned in the Bible as GOD'S church because According to the Bible ( Isaiah 5:1-7, 13 ) The Church went into Captivity all over the World,
@@james8996 You will no doubt disagree with this reply, you may even be offended by it: To me these verses you brought up in Isaiah 5, parallels a lost book from the Bible from the prophet Zenos. In that book, the house of Israel is compared to a tame olive tree in the vineyard of the Lord. The Lord of the vineyard pruned it, dug about it and nourished the tree to preserve the life of the tree, so that He may enjoy the precious fruit it produced. When the Lord of the vineyard saw that the tree began to decay He pruned off the withered branches of the tree and burned them. He took the young and precious branches of the tree he grafted them into the nethermost parts of His vineyard, so that He may preserve the fruit they produced unto Himself. In the place of the natural branches, He grafted back into the tree of Israel the wild olive branches (who are the Gentiles). At first the gentiles produced precious fruit for the Lord of the vineyard that was like unto the natural fruit. The wild olive branches (the gentiles) gave strength to the roots of the tree to preserve it's life. While the surviving natural branches of the tree of Israel tarried in the nethermost parts of the Lord's vineyard. But over time, the wild branches of the gentiles grew lofty and wild and became a strength unto themselves, drawing the strength from the roots of the tree. The Lord of the vineyard asks what more could He have done to preserve this tree? So for the last time before the Lord burns down His vineyard with fire, He prunes away the wild branches of the Gentiles, and grafts back into the tree the natural branches from the nethermost parts of the Lord's vineyard, along with the remaining branches of the Gentiles which produced desirable fruit. So that the Lord of the vineyard may preserve precious fruit unto Himself against the season thereof. So now in these last days before this earth is burned with fire, the Lord is pruning the wild and lofty gentiles off from the tree, and is gathering the natural branches of Israel from the four quarters of the earth, and from the islands of the sea, and is grafting them back into the tree of Israel. The Savior says that where the eagles gather, there will be the carcass.
Shadrach Roundy was one of the first of the Mormon pioneers to set foot in the Salt Lake Valley ahead of Brigham Young to begin plowing and planting crops. He also earlier gave up all of his property and earthly possessions to assist the saints in their expulsion from Missouri. He was a true unsung hero. His descendants are scattered around Utah and beyond.
Very much appreciated hearing thia. Trying to envision their situations and trying to see myself there. I'd like to think I'm a strong woman but i dont blv I'm anywhere near as strong as any of these women. Can't imagine the suffering they endured. Many thoughts ran through my head as i listened tonight. 1 being i need to stop my murmuring. Even under my breath is wrong. The Lord knows me and what trivial things I'm going through. I'm greatful to have been born at this time, alive in this dispensation. I need ro call on my /our Father more and be grateful the capabilities and opportunities i DO have. What a blessing it is to me that these records were kept, preserved and shared. Thank you for sharing.
Very insightful comments. Hearing about all the mud and being wet all the time and sleeping in mud and on frozen ground. I know how miserable mud can be struggling in it for an afternoon or even a day or two. But to be in it for months, with no place to come inside and dry out, with little or nothing to eat at times, I can't even comprehend it. Especially having to worry all the time about loved ones. I think though you would rise to the occasion. I think that people, especially women have this inner strength that sees them through in tough situations. And you are right. We have so many blessings in this day and age, set up for us by our ancestors, that we have a lot to be grateful for, in spite of our tribulations. We should thank our heavenly Father more for the blessings he has.
About 20 years after the church left Missouri, Quantril's raiders attacked that area. The women there were helpless because their men were in the army. Why do you think the church had gone to Utah by then?
The Missouri mob raided and looted Lawrence Kansas. They tried to do the same thing to the anti-slavery Kansas settlers they did previously to the Mormons. Unfortunately for them, the people of Kansas fought back. And they fought back rather severely.
They gone to Utah because they did in Missouri what they did in all their previous states, trying to take over the town and make laws that were beneficial to them and bad for the residents. The resident chased them out. They ended up in Utah a few years later and a caravan of 5 rich families from Missouri were headed for California and they had to pass through Utah and, out of revenge and greed for their riches, Brigham Young ordered the mormons to slaughter these families. Men women and children 7 years old and up. They wanted no survivors so there would be no witnesses. The Mormons blamed it on the Indians. It is known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre
@@smallhelmonabigship3524Deuteronomy 28:15-68 Identity who is GOD'S Church, and According to the Bible GODS church is a Nation of Black Negroes Scattered all over the World, How did the Negroes get to this entire Hemisphere by Slave ships, So is the Mormon church GODS church Hell Naw
23:00 "Gentile Christians"? Was their "sin" that they were Gentiles (like all the Mormons) or was their sin that they were Christians? Do Mormons consider Christ their natural enemy/persecutor? Do they consider Jesus a Gentile?
Mormons consider Christ is the brother of Lucifer and Joseph Smith as the Son of God. They also there are countless gods before God the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Gentiles who become true followers of Christ become adopted into the family of Israel. Yet, most of the American Churches "Christian" so-called, celebrated the murder of Joseph Smith and the deaths of many thousands of Mormons who were driven from their homes many times by them. They had no sense of charity or compassion for the suffering of the Mormons. These Christians have fostered the spirit of murder in their hearts from that time down to this very day. With such blatant disregard for the laws of God, they could hardly be considered true followers of Christ, and are unbelieving gentiles in every sense of the word.
@@smallhelmonabigship3524 great revisionist history smalls. I shall give the truth. Joe Smith had great influence over people and managed to sway a lot of them to follow him. The number of followers were getting greater than the real Christians of the town and began shoving their lies and beliefs into the real Christians peaceful lifestyle and living. This cult of Smith's began to make laws that were harmful to the Christians but beneficial to the cult. The Christians had enough and ran Smith and his cult out of town. Smith went to the next town and did the same thing and got the same result. This happened several times and each time he was driven out. He tried to takeover these towns until the last town put an end to him and sent him to Hell. Where he is weeping and gnashing his teeth Brigham Young took over the cult and led them to Utah it was there that Brigham Young ordered the cult followers to slaughter a caravan of 5 families headed for California they slaughtered every man woman and child from the age of 7 on up. It is known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre
Be careful about who and what you have listened to, and what you will listen to and believe in the future….true messengers of God will lead you to light, life and salvation. Please follow those who do so….even if they correct, because we all need corrections from time to time….with truths we may not know or see in our minds, and a correction can save us from mistakes that could hurt ourselves and those who are close to us, who we know and love. The Apostle Paul prophesied that “in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.” Turn away from that!!
@@katherinem.4414 I agree with Paul. Seducing Spirits = Nephi, Moroni, and all those other spirits Joseph Smith claimed. That is why I follow Jesus, the Christ of God and not Ahman Christ of the LDS. The Holy Spirit is my guide and has brought me back to life these many times.
Joey Smith he went to town Riding on a pony Stuck two peep stones in his hat And called on Macaroni Joey Smith he can keep IT up Joey Smith the DANDY! He minds the music and his steps And with the girls he's handy
@@smallhelmonabigship3524 Speaking the truth isn't a sickness. Joseph Smith was a horrible person. The Church whitewashes his personality and his history. They're lying to you. I know a comment on a RUclips video won't change your mind but I do encourage you to actually go and study materials that aren't sanctioned by the Church.
He was called Moroni, not Macaroni. At first, I think he was a pirate, then a toad spirit, spirits, angel, angel of light, later Nephi, before they finally settled on Moroni. If it helps, Moroni is the guy with a monkey. If Joseph had given him 5 coppers, Moroni said that he would have got the Gold Plates. And it's probably okay if you call Moroni Nephi like pretty much every one else did and Joseph's mother, back in the day. Also, Moroni got changed to an angel(?) I believe at some point?
@@smallhelmonabigship3524 Mormon Stories Podcast has some excellent content about LDS Church history, including that of Joseph Smith. I don't agree with antagonizing people over their religious beliefs, but I try to help people know the truth. I was a member for the first 30 years of my life. I'm of pioneer stock. I've got LDS apostles and prophets in my bloodlines. The Church is not true. I'm sorry, but it's not.
@@archangel_one I know there are many stories about JS finding the Golden Plates, and one involves a toad turning into an angel (which is one reason Mark Hoffman picked a white salamander in his forgery) that strikes Joseph in the head. It all goes back to folk magic of spirits guarding buried treasure. JS was a treasure-digger for a living. Then at some point he realized that people were making money off of spirit writing - channeling spirits of the dead to write books - and decided to have a go at it; but modifying it to say that he had an angel visit him and show him where gold plates were buried. The gold plates weren't even needed at all because of the whole stone in the hat thing. Its such an obvious fraud.
This story is what I believed 30yrs ago..but now no more ..all this are lies ..so pity for the families who are fooled by this leader. .in that time black can't hold priesthood..why?
They were polygamous people looking for a way to continue to practice polygamy beyond the lawful reaches of the US government. This wasn’t a necessary tragedy for the people to suffer. They should have forsaken polygamy as the illegal practice that it was and forgo all the antagonistic behavior
As I was reading your comment, i was reminded of all the hilarious hypocrisy of our day and age. When I was young I remember working at a particular business where there was a mixture of young men and women. One of the men who worked in the warehouse, who was probably the lowest paid of them all, had a bad boy image. He also had his way with the women. The women knew he slept with dozens of women, but they did not care about the other women, because he was the bad boy and the women had to spend the night with the bad boy. You could always tell when a woman spent the night with him, because he would be sweet talking them one day and they would be seen riding on the back of his motorcycle after work. The next day the women would act very affectionate around him, but he would treat the women with contempt. He was probably a walking petri dish of social diseases, but the women didn't care about any of that. For decades now, it has been discussed on occasion, the kinds of taxpayer funded college classes that are taught in pretty much every state, where young men and young women are encouraged to exchange their sex partners every week or two so they can gain a greater experience of what women want. Also on the social dating scene, many men have no trouble finding a woman to spend the night with. The public schools now teach the kids to be anything from a cat who wants to use a litter box to whatever thing they want to be. Marriage in the United States is all but dead. Single moms outnumber married mothers. 65 million abortions and counting in the last 50 years. And yet with all that going on, you somehow have to make the effort to come to me and be self righteous about polygamy, where men and women had lots of children and remained committed to each other for all time. That was practiced in the Bible by the prophets of God. How hilarious is that?
@@smallhelmonabigship3524The mormons are not the Morden day Israelites that is a lie, The Mormons are a religious Cult started in 1830 by a Crazy white man
Excellent thank you! I have been studying the Biblical and historical Exodus and seeing the wonders of the Exodus of the Saints to these Rocky Mountains. I have been recognizing many parallels of entering the Holy Land and defeating Goliath, and establishing King David, and then a temple. We live approximately that same time from our Exodus as the Israelites were from their Exodus to their kingdom and establishing a temple. No wonder to us why David was a type for Christ, I believe we will soon receive our King of Kings.
Thank you for another well put together video. Appreciate you and for your time. What a way to start a Monday. Thank you, thank you!
It really does mean a lot to me that people can be interested in it. Especially the history and bright future of the Church.
@@smallhelmonabigship3524
History of the church is what helps me conquer what I face everyday and has helped me made this far. I know some people fall away or chooses different route when they come across some things happened in the church history in the past but this is what I know to be true is that no one is perfect. Those who were called to laid the foundation of this marvelous work were men and women just like me. They made mistakes, complained, and sure murmuring but they kept the faith and stayed true to their covenants with the most high God, they never turned back or doubt their decisions to left their homes and the world may viewed that differently but I know with all my heart that God was with them. God works in mysterious way and love those who will do His will no matter their circumstances. I am grateful for this marvelous work. I am grateful for the pioneers and their faith unwavering. I am and will try to be a good pioneer to my family, and my children. #proudmember
You can start next Monday by watching the documentary on the Mountain Meadows Massacre
See if you get all teary eyed with that one
@@smallhelmonabigship3524Where is the Mormon church mentioned in the Bible as GOD'S church because According to the Bible ( Isaiah 5:1-7, 13 ) The Church went into Captivity all over the World,
@@james8996 You will no doubt disagree with this reply, you may even be offended by it:
To me these verses you brought up in Isaiah 5, parallels a lost book from the Bible from the prophet Zenos. In that book, the house of Israel is compared to a tame olive tree in the vineyard of the Lord. The Lord of the vineyard pruned it, dug about it and nourished the tree to preserve the life of the tree, so that He may enjoy the precious fruit it produced. When the Lord of the vineyard saw that the tree began to decay He pruned off the withered branches of the tree and burned them.
He took the young and precious branches of the tree he grafted them into the nethermost parts of His vineyard, so that He may preserve the fruit they produced unto Himself.
In the place of the natural branches, He grafted back into the tree of Israel the wild olive branches (who are the Gentiles). At first the gentiles produced precious fruit for the Lord of the vineyard that was like unto the natural fruit. The wild olive branches (the gentiles) gave strength to the roots of the tree to preserve it's life. While the surviving natural branches of the tree of Israel tarried in the nethermost parts of the Lord's vineyard.
But over time, the wild branches of the gentiles grew lofty and wild and became a strength unto themselves, drawing the strength from the roots of the tree.
The Lord of the vineyard asks what more could He have done to preserve this tree?
So for the last time before the Lord burns down His vineyard with fire, He prunes away the wild branches of the Gentiles, and grafts back into the tree the natural branches from the nethermost parts of the Lord's vineyard, along with the remaining branches of the Gentiles which produced desirable fruit. So that the Lord of the vineyard may preserve precious fruit unto Himself against the season thereof.
So now in these last days before this earth is burned with fire, the Lord is pruning the wild and lofty gentiles off from the tree, and is gathering the natural branches of Israel from the four quarters of the earth, and from the islands of the sea, and is grafting them back into the tree of Israel.
The Savior says that where the eagles gather, there will be the carcass.
Loved this painful history, alleluia to those who went before..we are to remain in their debt. 🇬🇧
Who was Shadrach Roundy?
Shadrach Roundy was one of the first of the Mormon pioneers to set foot in the Salt Lake Valley ahead of Brigham Young to begin plowing and planting crops. He also earlier gave up all of his property and earthly possessions to assist the saints in their expulsion from Missouri. He was a true unsung hero. His descendants are scattered around Utah and beyond.
Very much appreciated hearing thia. Trying to envision their situations and trying to see myself there. I'd like to think I'm a strong woman but i dont blv I'm anywhere near as strong as any of these women. Can't imagine the suffering they endured.
Many thoughts ran through my head as i listened tonight. 1 being i need to stop my murmuring. Even under my breath is wrong. The Lord knows me and what trivial things I'm going through.
I'm greatful to have been born at this time, alive in this dispensation. I need ro call on my /our Father more and be grateful the capabilities and opportunities i DO have.
What a blessing it is to me that these records were kept, preserved and shared. Thank you for sharing.
Very insightful comments. Hearing about all the mud and being wet all the time and sleeping in mud and on frozen ground. I know how miserable mud can be struggling in it for an afternoon or even a day or two. But to be in it for months, with no place to come inside and dry out, with little or nothing to eat at times, I can't even comprehend it. Especially having to worry all the time about loved ones.
I think though you would rise to the occasion. I think that people, especially women have this inner strength that sees them through in tough situations.
And you are right. We have so many blessings in this day and age, set up for us by our ancestors, that we have a lot to be grateful for, in spite of our tribulations. We should thank our heavenly Father more for the blessings he has.
You can always make mud and roll around in it and pretend you are on the trail.
@@jacksparrow1057 🤣
No thank you
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Get out of the Mormons they are liars and false teachers
About 20 years after the church left Missouri, Quantril's raiders attacked that area. The women there were helpless because their men were in the army. Why do you think the church had gone to Utah by then?
The Missouri mob raided and looted Lawrence Kansas. They tried to do the same thing to the anti-slavery Kansas settlers they did previously to the Mormons. Unfortunately for them, the people of Kansas fought back. And they fought back rather severely.
They gone to Utah because they did in Missouri what they did in all their previous states, trying to take over the town and make laws that were beneficial to them and bad for the residents. The resident chased them out. They ended up in Utah a few years later and a caravan of 5 rich families from Missouri were headed for California and they had to pass through Utah and, out of revenge and greed for their riches, Brigham Young ordered the mormons to slaughter these families. Men women and children 7 years old and up. They wanted no survivors so there would be no witnesses. The Mormons blamed it on the Indians. It is known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre
@@smallhelmonabigship3524Deuteronomy 28:15-68 Identity who is GOD'S Church, and According to the Bible GODS church is a Nation of Black Negroes Scattered all over the World, How did the Negroes get to this entire Hemisphere by Slave ships, So is the Mormon church GODS church Hell Naw
Reminds me of what happened to the wicked city of Ammonihah...
23:00 "Gentile Christians"? Was their "sin" that they were Gentiles (like all the Mormons) or was their sin that they were Christians? Do Mormons consider Christ their natural enemy/persecutor? Do they consider Jesus a Gentile?
Mormons consider Christ is the brother of Lucifer and Joseph Smith as the Son of God. They also there are countless gods before God the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.
Gentiles who become true followers of Christ become adopted into the family of Israel. Yet, most of the American Churches "Christian" so-called, celebrated the murder of Joseph Smith and the deaths of many thousands of Mormons who were driven from their homes many times by them. They had no sense of charity or compassion for the suffering of the Mormons.
These Christians have fostered the spirit of murder in their hearts from that time down to this very day. With such blatant disregard for the laws of God, they could hardly be considered true followers of Christ, and are unbelieving gentiles in every sense of the word.
@@smallhelmonabigship3524
great revisionist history smalls. I shall give the truth. Joe Smith had great influence over people and managed to sway a lot of them to follow him. The number of followers were getting greater than the real Christians of the town and began shoving their lies and beliefs into the real Christians peaceful lifestyle and living. This cult of Smith's began to make laws that were harmful to the Christians but beneficial to the cult.
The Christians had enough and ran Smith and his cult out of town. Smith went to the next town and did the same thing and got the same result. This happened several times and each time he was driven out. He tried to takeover these towns until the last town put an end to him and sent him to Hell. Where he is weeping and gnashing his teeth
Brigham Young took over the cult and led them to Utah it was there that Brigham Young ordered the cult followers to slaughter a caravan of 5 families headed for California they slaughtered every man woman and child from the age of 7 on up. It is known as the Mountain Meadows Massacre
Be careful about who and what you have listened to, and what you will listen to and believe in the future….true messengers of God will lead you to light, life and salvation. Please follow those who do so….even if they correct, because we all need corrections from time to time….with truths we may not know or see in our minds, and a correction can save us from mistakes that could hurt ourselves and those who are close to us, who we know and love.
The Apostle Paul prophesied that “in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils.”
Turn away from that!!
@@katherinem.4414 I agree with Paul.
Seducing Spirits = Nephi, Moroni, and all those other spirits Joseph Smith claimed.
That is why I follow Jesus, the Christ of God and not Ahman Christ of the LDS. The Holy Spirit is my guide and has brought me back to life these many times.
Wonderful!
I think they had suffered persecution from the government and their neighbors and had to find a place where they could be free!
Joey Smith he went to town
Riding on a pony
Stuck two peep stones in his hat
And called on Macaroni
Joey Smith he can keep IT up
Joey Smith the DANDY!
He minds the music and his steps
And with the girls he's handy
You have a sickness in your soul.
@@smallhelmonabigship3524 Speaking the truth isn't a sickness. Joseph Smith was a horrible person. The Church whitewashes his personality and his history. They're lying to you.
I know a comment on a RUclips video won't change your mind but I do encourage you to actually go and study materials that aren't sanctioned by the Church.
He was called Moroni, not Macaroni.
At first, I think he was a pirate, then a toad spirit, spirits, angel, angel of light, later Nephi, before they finally settled on Moroni. If it helps, Moroni is the guy with a monkey. If Joseph had given him 5 coppers, Moroni said that he would have got the Gold Plates. And it's probably okay if you call Moroni Nephi like pretty much every one else did and Joseph's mother, back in the day. Also, Moroni got changed to an angel(?) I believe at some point?
@@smallhelmonabigship3524 Mormon Stories Podcast has some excellent content about LDS Church history, including that of Joseph Smith. I don't agree with antagonizing people over their religious beliefs, but I try to help people know the truth. I was a member for the first 30 years of my life. I'm of pioneer stock. I've got LDS apostles and prophets in my bloodlines. The Church is not true. I'm sorry, but it's not.
@@archangel_one I know there are many stories about JS finding the Golden Plates, and one involves a toad turning into an angel (which is one reason Mark Hoffman picked a white salamander in his forgery) that strikes Joseph in the head. It all goes back to folk magic of spirits guarding buried treasure. JS was a treasure-digger for a living. Then at some point he realized that people were making money off of spirit writing - channeling spirits of the dead to write books - and decided to have a go at it; but modifying it to say that he had an angel visit him and show him where gold plates were buried. The gold plates weren't even needed at all because of the whole stone in the hat thing. Its such an obvious fraud.
Modern Israel is in the middle. Get map!
New video!
Thank you..... long wait 😂
This story is what I believed 30yrs ago..but now no more ..all this are lies ..so pity for the families who are fooled by this leader. .in that time black can't hold priesthood..why?
Since you don't believe any more, could any answer satisfy you? Just curious.
If you don’t believe why watch it?
They were polygamous people looking for a way to continue to practice polygamy beyond the lawful reaches of the US government. This wasn’t a necessary tragedy for the people to suffer. They should have forsaken polygamy as the illegal practice that it was and forgo all the antagonistic behavior
As I was reading your comment, i was reminded of all the hilarious hypocrisy of our day and age.
When I was young I remember working at a particular business where there was a mixture of young men and women. One of the men who worked in the warehouse, who was probably the lowest paid of them all, had a bad boy image.
He also had his way with the women. The women knew he slept with dozens of women, but they did not care about the other women, because he was the bad boy and the women had to spend the night with the bad boy. You could always tell when a woman spent the night with him, because he would be sweet talking them one day and they would be seen riding on the back of his motorcycle after work. The next day the women would act very affectionate around him, but he would treat the women with contempt. He was probably a walking petri dish of social diseases, but the women didn't care about any of that.
For decades now, it has been discussed on occasion, the kinds of taxpayer funded college classes that are taught in pretty much every state, where young men and young women are encouraged to exchange their sex partners every week or two so they can gain a greater experience of what women want.
Also on the social dating scene, many men have no trouble finding a woman to spend the night with.
The public schools now teach the kids to be anything from a cat who wants to use a litter box to whatever thing they want to be.
Marriage in the United States is all but dead. Single moms outnumber married mothers. 65 million abortions and counting in the last 50 years.
And yet with all that going on, you somehow have to make the effort to come to me and be self righteous about polygamy, where men and women had lots of children and remained committed to each other for all time. That was practiced in the Bible by the prophets of God. How hilarious is that?
@@smallhelmonabigship3524The mormons are not the Morden day Israelites that is a lie, The Mormons are a religious Cult started in 1830 by a Crazy white man
Apostates
yes