The fact that this woman reached out to police for help multiple times and they outright refuse to help her, but he was able to so easily get her admitted in a mental facility is actually terrifying
But from what it sounds like, they really couldn't legally do anything because she was married to the guy. I dated a guy once who's ex started harassing him once she found out that he'd moved on. They'd purchased a house together, but she moved out once they'd split up. She literally threw a rock through the window one night, so he went to the cops, thinking they'd do something about it, but they told him that since her name was on the deed, she was not doing anything illegal by damaging her own property and they couldn't do a thing about it. She'd also just show up at the house whenever she wanted. She even peed in his truck and told him what she'd done, but the truck was legally hers as well, so again, the cops couldn't do a thing.
As a person who was moved around to different churches. I learned most pastors tell on themselves in sermons all the time. For example one pastor said they struggled with materialism and money. Then they were later fired for embezzlement of church funds 💀
Matthew 17 v15: “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits". And this guy has some real rotten fruits
My step father is a Pastor and it's crazy how many of these monster's traits he has including publicly airing out marital problems disguised as sermons. Every. Damn. Time. Whenever the opportunity arises, he delights in telling any one who will listen how he's done this and that and how she's unrepentant, not born again, a sinner, etc etc. This shit was coming from a man secretly giving money to women in the church without my Mother's knowledge. I just cut to the chase and straight up told him, if anything happens to my Mother, I won't stop my revenge with him (I really, really hate the guy). He knows me enough to know I'm not bluffing.
yeaa my best friend back in primary school's dad was a pastor and he was pretty abusive to her apparently, also when i went to a sleepover at her house i drew a smiley face on my friend's arm when she was sleeping and he started screaming at me that its bullying, like bro why are u yelling at a random 12 year old u never met
Honestly even if she just killed herself he still murdered her. He made her life hell and pushed her to a breaking point. He is the reason she is dead.
@@thr3monthrestart325you sound like someone who would tell a depressed person to "stop being sad and be happy". Did missed the fact that she was having trouble with her mental health and had this toxic person in her life since she was FIFTEEN and her brain was underdeveloped still. It is not easy to see the red flags that early. And it's harder when you have people giving him a pass for some of his action. For example, cheating on his wife.
@@mskvllr never said he murdered her. You just missed the point of the previous comment which was the fact that he may have allegedly pushed her into committing suicide through his deplorable actions.
@@mskvllrif someone drives you to a point where you have to take your own life, is it really that much of a difference? you can still go to jail if you drive someone to commit.
@@mellowmallow4855 Absolutely nailed it. The type who loves memes that say "Choose happiness" and believe that people who are depressed just don't want to be happy. Good for them, having never experienced clinical depression, thinking having the blues like everyone does is the same as black waves of darkness and nothingness crashing down on you over and over until you just can't stand up again. Must be nice to not know what it's like, and to not have the burden of understanding and empathy for those who do. What luck. 😊
They're the same people doing it most likely. JP just seems like the type to prey on desperate and vulnerable people or yes men who do the same things he does for validation.
@@rachel2027no Christianity is all ab improving one’s self, in biblical times they used to castrate men who touched kids or graped ppl. those ppl are sick in the head and are sheep.
As someone from SC. He 10000000% did it. He’s so guilty it’s not even funny. His family is old money and has big roots. He knew he could get away with it
Psych student here. I can tell he was researching the concept of 'human hacking' based on how he communicated around the DISC test in that one sermon. He did not use it as Christopher intended when he authored his books, so the clear lack of empathy is confirmed. His selfish actions were not impulsive, as he showed those traits in other areas of his life, not just in the affairs. On top of that, his misogynistic tendencies and growing levels of inner hatred both to the world around him, and his personal relationships are clear signs of decline. This is a very dangerous man, being that he is already in a position of power. He is showing multiple behaviors and signs of those who go on to become cult leaders. If you have a pastor who is making you feel less than or otherwise belittled, that is not a good sign. Religions should make you feel safe and at peace, not the opposite. Trust your gut insticts and intuition. An RUN at the first signs of anyone trying to thought police you, or try to speak as if your thoughts are caused by forces only they see. People like this mantake advantage of those who are highly spiritual, and it is better to be safe if you are ever unsure. If any boundaries are crossed with no regard on the impact on your emotions, well-being, or safety, they will often continue and escalate.
Thank you for your comment, I’m personally a Muslim and went to one „church“ for Jehovas witnesses and it felt strange to me. In a mosque you only pray on the women’s side get to hear the call to prayer and on Fridays you get a little lecture over the speakers in the women’s room from the imaam and he answers questions as well as he can but most importantly never airs out anyone’s dirty laundry we donate to little boxes nobody really sees you do it if anyone is judgy in the mosque you can just leave and having men and women separated ALWAYS made me feel so at ease and protected as a child. There’s hardly any room for inappropriate things when you’re both separated and there is no such thing as a „youth imaam“ because that just sounds inappropriate especially from grown man to little girl. So church always confused me a lot and I’m glad I didn’t grow up like that because I was very naive as a child very insecure and someone like that could’ve easily taken advantage over me. It was a lot harder to grasp why so many Christian’s left the religion once they were grown up but I see now some churches play a big role and if the mosque were the same for me all my life I would’ve left too and I still did for a short period of time but nobody shamed me I came back on my own nobody keeps track of you nobody laughs at you it’s peaceful. I can’t imagine the pain these women or better said young girls must’ve felt all their life. It’s sickening
@@Bubblegum-bword your compassion is lovely, im so glad you were safe and have found peace in your religion - as someone that was raised mormon and am no longer religious its heartwarming to know that faith can be loving and true 💗
Right? Didn’t even launch an investigation. They might’ve been able to get a warrant for his electronics. The corruption is so unreal in South Carolina
So many times police just turned down even Micah because he is famous pastor. It’s the same thing happened to Scott Paterson’s wife because he was one of the cop so they covered up for him until it was too late.
I am a Christian... I remember our pastor telling us that if someday we move into different places, we must find a good church. He said no church is perfect but we should look closely to its leaders because if they are preaching things other than what the Bible says, we must run and never go back to that church again. And I agree... It is like a cult preaching how to be loved by the world and teaching prosperity gospels
@@arlysanchez8099 that fr. He's not even backing up his words with evidence from the bible. Especially when talking about a man and woman's mind. You have to use biblical and psychological evidence to back that up. He obvious never even did his research just made something up
@@AngelCake4433and the weaponization of "Godly" behavior in his marriage is downright sickening. He was so concerned about what his wife needed to do to act Godly and didn't show any accountability or care about how his own actions and words reflect on his own "Godliness"; repeatedly picking and choosing biblical teachings to paint himself in a good light and her in a bad light. What a deplorable, disgusting predator of a man who has no right being a leader to any body of Christ. I'd be embarrassed to have a pastor like this trying to teach me anything. My heart breaks for her and what she and her family have gone through.
"imagine being married to that" is what he says at his wife's funeral.... I cannot roll my eyes hard enough. 🙄 He can't even contain the disgust he feels for her at her funeral
I took it as him seeing her only as a piece of meat to own. Not seeing her with disgust, but in a seedy, sexual, perverted and derogatory way. I mean, what pastor shows pictures of anyone (let alone his wife, and at a funeral!!) in a bikini! Plus, he posted the topless picture of her on his Facebook 🤢🤮😡😡😡 Either way, he is a horrendous excuse for a man
If it’s true, “I played into her delusions sometimes” isn’t the cute joke he thinks it is. That’s genuinely so awful for someone to do to a schizophrenic person.
@@Alicest. Also Stephanie keeps saying 15, but everything else that I have heard and seen has said she was only 14.. That she was 14 when her family moved to South Carolina and join the church. That's when she met JP and he immediately began grooming her 😔 This poor woman never had a chance.
@@CaseyMarie11-11I don’t think it matters. 15 or 14 still too immature and too young to be trying to take away her choices so easily . no matter what age he was, he was a grown man and new better!! she had no choice like you said. no chance to live her own decisions and mistakes.
Scripture never says that abuse must be tolerated in any relationship! Abuse (real) is worse than divorce. Nowadays though, what's defined as abuse is abused! Everything in this story with JP though IS DEFINITELY ABUSE!
Not really. He hasn't been found guilty in a court of law (and tbh I don't think he has anything to do with her death directly) He has a pretty solid alibi. It just wouldn't be wise to blatantly accuse him of murder
@@FIRING_BLINDNobody has claimed JP was responsible for Micah's death, but the listeners can think for themselves especially those of us who have lived with a narcissistic mentally ill person. This young lady is only sharing what she has learned from her research, so she has no reason to be sued for reporting on the story.
Sooooo he had soooo much things to say like how a woman should treat her husband but nothing about how a husband should treat his wife but instead he talks negative about a woman… interesting how ppl actually attended and listened to him when he’s obviously off putting with his words and they know it.
You’d be surprised how easily people can be manipulated. Heck even the general hate for Chinese and Muslims was a targeted form of mass manipulation that people dont really understand they were manipulated into hating or looking down on them.
Pastors like these bring shame to Christianity , they don't care about Jesus or God all they care about are their egos and material wealth . #JusticeforMica
Hey you guys know about the miryang case in korea. It happened in 2004. Three female were gang raped by 44 middle schoolers in a span over one year. No one went to jail. The parents of the rpist blame the gurls. And college didn’t want to accept victims of rpe. But now it is a big thing in korea because a youtuber exposed the predators. Stephanie i hope you cover this case again please bring attention to it
Hey you guys know about the miryang case in korea. It happened in 2004. Three female were gang raped by 44 middle schoolers in a span over one year. No one went to jail. The parents of the rpist blame the gurls. And college didn’t want to accept victims of rpe. But now it is a big thing in korea because a youtuber exposed the predators. Stephanie i hope you cover this case again please bring attention to it
It’s so crazy that he is so outspoken about abusing women. But It shows what years of not being held accountable and praised does to a person like him. People like him are so scary …
As well as all those that ignore what they know has happened/happening. He wasn't fired for any of it including the recent Embezzlement the FBI is investigating him for. He gave a bullshit he is taking time to heal blah,blah, blah!💔😠
I'm more angry at the people who let themselves be blinded and brainwashed by people like this guy. He's not a man of Christianity, or Jesus, he's just a narcissistic evil human who fou d the perfect scenario to carry out his evil life. I'm not even religious, maybe that's why it's so easy for me to see through their brainwashing techniques...
Love that Stephanie’s husband is almost always in the background XD He is like our avatar in a sense, asking questions that we have or reacting how we do. It’s very natural and not scripted like other podcasts.
He's always asking the questions we want to ask . He doesn't show his ever because he doesn't want to. We don't know his name either so we call him mr. Mangobutt
Lol sometimes I feel like he isn’t paying attention 😂😂 he will ask a question and I’m like “Weren’t you listening to your wife?” 😂😂 but I love how he supports her and most of the time I agree with his reactions 😂
That's my big issue with Churches. The congregation isn't allowed to challenge anything said. It's like going to a book club where you don't actually read the book and aren't allowed to ask questions, some guy just tells you what he wants you to think the book meant. It's never a discussion
I love how Allison was a girls girl to the end despite Mica being "the other woman.” She had all reason to be mad at mica but she never let any of that get to their relationship before that (and I feel that she knew JP had a hand in the whole thing further in advance anyway so it’s not her fault). Not many have that same perspective when that’s happened to them so her kindness is admirable!
After 16 years with that monster, she was probably glad to have a way out of the marriage. That's the only way he would have ever let Mica go...if there was someone younger he wanted to be married to instead.
Im from a smallish town and at one point was dating a boy VERY well connected to city officials, he ended up crashing my car while drunk (with me in it) got arrested and the charges weren’t just dropped they COMPLETELY disappeared like it never happened. All with one phone call. So I fully believe JP was well connected on top of just being powerful himself. It would have been extremely easy to get this murder covered up Edit: him being a Pastor (confessions) I’m sure he also had BIG dirt on police officers, sheriffs, Judges and everyone in between.
Well this type of church doesn’t take confessions, it’s more of a counseling on wrong doing.... it’s more of a conditioning cult than anything, and embarrassment is one of the tactics they use most often too. No one wants to be shamed in front of their entire town.
I think it's high time the congregation begin to revolt. Because he/she is a pastor doesn't mean they can dabble into areas where they have no experience or authority. People need to start walking out during sermons. Misogyny and patriarchy is so embedded into religion, it's scary.
I mean, when you think you have the correct answers to unknowable questions, like "Was the universe created?" "What happens to us when we die?" Then, it's really not surprising to think you have answers to everything else too.
Because they know updated facts are responsible for the decline of believers. So many pastors are trying to combat that by speaking on psychological issues. If they do it with authority (fake it till you make it), learn buzzwords, then many followers don’t even question what’s being preached from the pulpit.
It's why I really love my church. They value historical context, and theology. There's always context, it's not just cherry picking verses and preaching your backwards beliefs. Many of my pastors have Masters and Doctorates about Biblical Theology from credited universities. They know what they're talking about. But not all pastors do. Pastors are humans too, and they mess up, and they have the ability to be evil, just like anyone else
@@mikchimin Theology and psychiatry/ psychology aren’t remotely the same. Theology isn’t evidence based, regardless of the accredited university in which the degree is received. Be careful assuming “they know what they’re talking about” just because you know their educational background- definitely question, research & think for yourself.
The video of Mica telling JP to walk away: He was threatening to post a topless picture of her on Facebook… which he did do, and she filed a police report over it.
Would he not be placed on the sex offenders register for doing that ?? In Ireland and the UK . If you do that you have to register as a sex offender. Rightly so!
@itsalwaysteatime3803 unfortunately, no. I live in South Carolina, and the cops told Mica that since JP blurred out her nipples, the picture doesn't count as SA. Also since it was posted anonymously, the cops told Mica that there's no way of finding out who posted it. Our laws really need to catch up with the current times.
@@katelynbrown98 that's awful poor mica . Well at least when people commit violent murder in the USA usually when they get life in prison..it means life in prison. In Ireland the sentences for violent and sexualcrimes are shockingly low !
@@katelynbrown98but he confessed to doing it the "i'm sorry i just wanted to hurt you" can't she not use it as evidence? then it wouldn't be "anonymous" anymore....if that happens could she have filed for like a restraint against him?
I haven’t had a case made my blood boil as much as this. She was crying out for help for so long, and even told everyone that if she was found dead it wouldn’t be her. What more proof do you need. Rest in power, Micah.
Also seems to be a closeted homosexual with some of the details, which makes sense why he’s so focused on sexual acts and keeping her quiet. She knows too much.
Unrelated to the case but; It’s incredible how Stephanie’s Co-host (I think also her husband?) asks all the questions we’re thinking. Every video I watch, he asks questions I never thought to even consider and the clarifying questions wrap up even the smallest parts of a case. Thanks dude!
@@twiceuwuu me too. And often his questions help clarify some pretty crazy level of detail, because stories like this always have so many moving parts 😊
I'm Muslim, I love how you aren't religious but when you make a video on a case that involves religions you're always making sure to be nice and to separate the beliefs from the actions ...I deeply respect you as you respect people and don't want to offend anyone, I'm not Christian but I know that what I'll hear in this case isn't a part from Christianity. Every group of people and every community and every belief and every place on earth will have good and evil humans.
Even if they weren't, one of them doesn't warrent trackers (bpd2). That's him using the buzz word of bipolar and hoping when people see that it's full naming is bipolar depressive that they'll stop looking there and not realize that it's way milder than the media portrays "bipolar" to be because the media always just calls it "bipolar" rather than bipolar manic and bipolar depressive (bpd1 and bpd2 respectively) which in turn causes a terrible stigma around the mental illness. Apologies I'll climb off my soap box now
"Only God can judge (me), BUT! As a pastor, let me judge every single person in my congregation under the excuse of a 'sermon' :)" Because yeah, clearly that's the godly way.
I get you 😂. People nowadays be worshipping Pastors and not God. If only people read the bible for themselves then they'd see the deception from a mile away.
Disgusting, I don't know how people sit there and not literally walk away from it. The first thing I look at sermons in different religions, if the pastor/father is only talking about personal experiences rather than talking about the experiences of the bible characters and learning from it?. Straight up exit. Or maybe they do share something relatable but always, just always use bible verses as a solution and answer for those
As someone who used to be in an abusive relationship, all these allegations sound so familiar. I was 19 when I met someone 6 years older than me and I thought the world of them because they were an adult in my eyes and they wanted to take care of me. Then after years together he did yell at me things that shot my confidence down to the ground. Yet still accused me of sleeping with everyone who laid their eyes on me. When I wanted to just sleep after an argument he would keep me awake yelling,threatening, and shaking me awake till I gave a reaction and he would just laugh to see me angry. I would cry nonstop and he always made me feel alone. He knew I was religious(catholic) and would take my Virgin Mary statue and threaten to break it all the time , and destroy my stuff plush dog that I had when I was a year old (that stuff dog was my everything). So yea I can definitely see why anyone would wanna exit this world when they go through this because I’ve tried on several occasions, but I knew if I didn’t do it myself my abusive then boyfriend would definitely do it. Luckily I managed to leave and it took a lot to resist the urge to go back due to the abuse and manipulation
My heart goes out to you, you endured alot. You bringing your stuffed animal gave a glimpse into you still being a child, emotionally and he was definitely smitten to that! I left all my stuffed animals at my parents home to not loose them, but i would cry for my little girl self if i saw the person i loved destroying them to hurt me. Thank God you made it out. ❤
@@elliecasta1145 yes definitely took advantage of that side of me but luckily I found someone who loves to buy me stuffed animals and plushies to make me smile and doesn’t judge me when I have my stuffed dog with me ❤️❤️❤️thank you for the kind words
Mika's dad said the gun was found 40 meters from her body. It was also reported that the water was practically still so how could her heavy body or the heavy gun "float" away when the water is essentially still? And just because she "calmly called" the police doesn't mean there wasn't someone pointing a gun to her head to make her do that. And the fact she let people know that if she's found with a bullet in her head...it's him. Also, as a victim of abuse myself from a narcissistic sociopath, they gaslight you to the point when you literally don't even want to live, so even if she did do it herself, he's 100% responsible. She most likely had little to no mental health issues until she married him. I can say that with personal experience. I was never mentally ill until I met my abusive ex. He drove me to mental illness. You have no idea to what extent immense mental and physical abuse can do to the human mind. It's absolute torture. I believe this man is guilty regardless of whether she did it herself or he did it to her (in my opinion). It's extremely obvious.
The teo used casings, if one was used in her, it would mske sense that the second one was used prior to the call, to make sure she stays calm on the call, maybe making her recite it and when her voice waivered he shot next to her. Then after the call he shot her dead. Maybe
See I remember her sister saying she said if she gets shot or killed it’s him not her. So what I’m thinking maybe he did hire someone or did it himself and she was at the point where she just didn’t want to fight anymore with this monster. OR my other thought was maybe when she was on the phone talking calm it was because he or whoever was hired threatened to hurt someone close to her like her family and she might have felt defeated I noticed too when I listened to the 911 call she talks slow in some parts and also pauses like she might be with someone and she sounded as if she was trying to drop hints that someone was with her. I saw somewhere too that she bought the gun for her protection and HE KNEW IT! He knew she was gonna buy a gun and himself or again someone he hired followed her that day to the store. Again even if she did in the end take her own life…her blood is on his hands for the way he psychologically and physically abused her.
I had the thought about the security footage of her going into that store to purchase the gun,and having a large tattoo of a cross on her hand.Now when shown standing at the counter,both hands were placed on top of the counter. That shot of both her hands were pretty easy to see and there was absolutely no sign of a large,probably quite dark colored tattoo of a cross on either hand. What if it wasn't her entering the store to buy a gun but the woman he was alleged to have cheated with Sue. Just a thought but enquiring minds would be interested to know if anyone else had the same thought.
I work very very close to this church and a few of my regulars attend/attended this church. One thing I'd like to mention just to show how fucked up that church is, Bernard Kenerson, someone who was in a leadership position at that church up until this case blew up, is a child sex offender. He was charged with sodomy with child, indecent liberties with child and indecent acts with another. The girl was 8 years old and the documents state it was a family member. It happened a long time ago but in my personal opinion, as well as people in the community i've talked to, it's absolutely disgusting that the church let him have a leadership position at that church where he's going to be working with children. that church is just sketchy and weird in a lot of ways.
Haven't come across a decent church. Haven't come across a righteous pastor. Haven't come across an honest politician. Still haven't met a "good" Christian.
It’s always those types of people defending each other to keep each other in power. There’s probably people who relate to the higher ups and want them to stay being in power🙁
hi stephanie i’m from Shasta County Redding,CA and a local woman Nikki Cheng Saelee McCain has been missing since may 18th two weeks before before her husband was to go to trial for a long list of DV charges. he was caught dumping her truck that went missing with her, and set her property on fire yet is still out and a free man. the police and DA still haven’t listed him as a suspect in her disappearance. as of today july 5th 200 people rallied outside the courthouse to show their frustrations and disappointment after the courthouse dismissed all DV charges against him. his family owns a house right next to the Win River Casino which is all on a native reservation. his brother had two ex girlfriends who allegedly both self exited on their property which is tribal land. she’s a mom of four and her family are desperately searching for her. you bringing awareness to the case would do so so much. we live in the same town as sherri papini and nikki isn’t getting nearly as much news coverage as sherri did. even just reposting the hashtag #bringnikkihome would be so helpful
@@ericanguy1 I went through something very similar to Mica. My ex started cheating on me 3 months into the marriage. He isolated me so I had no way to leave him for 4 years. Finally managed to get out of it, went to counseling, had a lot of support from friends, but still there were tipping points, almost went back to him one time, was suicidal multiple times. I hope Mica gets her justice but at least for me, its not so unbelievable for me to think she wanted to self exit.
People are still giving that church 5 star reviews on Google. Absolutely fcking sick how they can all just have their heads buried in the sand. The church still has Mica in the bio for JP as a loving wife. The devil is working overtime in that “congregation”. And other Christians wonder why other people give us the side eye all of the time. Mica deserved better and I pray that she gets peace and that JP gets an earthly punishment AND one in the next life too. When the Bible said “Thou shalt not take the LORD thy God’s name in vain.” This the stuff they were talking about.
Im a Christians and i truly feel that the police didnt handle this well and i feel like some members of the church shouldve at least did something to protect her . JP need s to be in jail because what ?!?! and i think its unfair for people to stereotype Christians like that because everyone is different and the belief does not spread misogyny.Anyone that still attends that church or support that pastors need help coz what?!!?thats concerning
The Bible shows how to treat your wife! Says to be intoxicated in her and not other woman. There’s no justify what he has done. Rest easy beautiful🩷you’re with our father now🙏
He influenced her wrongful death, doesn't matter if he physically did it. Justice must be served. It is disgusting how people like JP have a position of power to further influence the mass public who follow these awful humans.
Holy crap. This is why the people on the internet should never ever be in the position of power to convict people if we’re going off this loony statement.
@@imperialhistorian4201 Luckily the law disagrees with you since that girl in Mass was charged for encouraging her bf to self-exit until he did it. Causing someone to self-exit on purpose absolutely needs to be a crime.
People use religion as a crutch; they think it’s a shortcut to being a moral person. There’s no such thing as “making the religion look bad” -- these kind of people ARE BAD people, preying on those who have been groomed or willfully brainwashed. Narcissists know where to find people who will give them power, no matter who you are or what you believe.
I think that he also just told us his political beliefs since he named Hillary Clinton, but not Trump. Don't get me wrong, both of them are trash, and either or both of them could've been named. It's just funny how you can tell someone's political beliefs based on which one of those they decide to group in together with Satan 😂
I got into an argument with my boyfriend (now ex, you’ll see why) a few months ago and it was about the bear versus man thing. And by the end of the debate, I realized that he felt exactly like this about women. One of the many terrible things he said to me was “if women were in power, we would still be in the dark ages because women are less intelligent than men” he actually believes that men are better than women in every way. And we had been together for a long time at this point. How did I never know that he felt this way about women? He has a good relationship with his mom too. Another one of the terrible things he said was that all women were w***s and liars and that’s all they would ever be. The only thing they are good for having kids. That’s their only purpose. That and S3X. I lost all respect for him that day, but turns out he never had an ounce of respect for me to begin with.
It could come from his mom. That’s how my grandma raised my dad and uncles. Instead of teaching them to be real men, responsible, protectors, good sons, brothers, friends, husbands and fathers. She instead would criticize their girlfriends and wife’s and even made some divorce because they were “w****s”. My grandpa was a womanizer charmer and though a terrible example I think she’s the worst.
@@em83998 LMAOOO but she does have a point but the men ofc should be held accountable as they are adults and should be able to think for themselves and change from those ways taught by their mother
Don't be silly, he did say something critical about them! Men are weak and prone to stray, which is why it's so important that women sacrifice and submit and bend over backwards for them. No no, that doesn't mean that women should be in charge, that'd be crazy, but he did call out men for sinful thoughts and leaving the cabinet door open! (Sarcasm, if that wasn't clear)
I really don't get why you wouldn't want your wife to be an individual with their own thoughts and needs. I'd feel so icky if I knew that my wife was only staying quiet and sleeping with me whenever I want just to appease me. They just frfr see women as sex toys that can get pregnant and clean.
more for women than moids, married moids life longer and earn more money, married women live shorter lives and are broke statistically single women are happier than single men
I understand where you’re coming from but there’s definitely steps that should be taken before one gets married. Sometimes ppl act like it’s all about good luck or bad luck, when the truth is that, everyone must do their due diligence!
Honestly, I don't know how you two don't pull all your hair out of your heads with how unbelievably insane some of these cases often are????!!!! This kind of insanity could quite literally drive a person to drink!! As usual, both of you always exhibit perfect professionalism, empathy, and class. Thanks to you both and all your staff, for all your hard work, research, fact-checking, and dedication!!!! Thank you, I'm a big fan!!!! Good luck in all your future endeavors!!!! 💗🙏💜GOD BLESS💜🙏💗
This is my home town. The way the Robeson county police department handled this situation was very odd. Lots of information has changed or new things have been added. we’re all suspicious, Pastor JP. #JusticeForMica 😢
Mica was found in Orrum, North Carolina. My home town is in Robeson which was the police department that took on the case. Burnis Wilkins has been in hot water this year already and this case didn’t help at allll
The fake laugh cry at her memorial. He doesn't know how to act. Act being the key word. Because he doesn't actually have the ability to feel those emotions.
As far as I’m concerned, even if he did not physically pull the trigger, the abuse of power, sexism, and everything you did to Micha is him killing her. He killed her.
It sounds like those 18 people “who were messaging her concerned about their relationship “ were in the room and he was chastising them while simultaneously making sure nobody else would either
abusers will keep you awake at night because it makes you easier to manipulate. after arguing for hours at night, you're willing to submit to a lot that you wouldn't in the right mind. it's horrible and traumatic to experience
Yes... my ex would drunkenly follow me from room to room berating me and call me names and accusing me if EVERYTHING under the sun including cheating, being a prostitute, a nymphomaniac, a porn star, sleeping with the neighbors, and on and on. If I locked him out of a room he'd kick in the door. I was getting up for work at 730am, getting home at 530pm, fighting until 4am ish every single work day for MONTHS AND MONTHS. I was fired for falling asleep at my desk over and over.
It's important to remember that in South Carolina you are legally required to be separated for one year before being allowed to divorce UNLESS you can prove in court a few very specific scenarios (infidelity, abuse, or substance dependency). It is my feeling that this is why the original divorce was dropped and replaced with the legal separation.
That's such a st*pid law. I don't know a lot about USA and the culture of each state but I understand each state has different laws. I assume in that state it's VERY difficult to live, not being allowed to get a divorce just because you want it's insane. That's against the liberty of expression and doing whatever you want that's not a crime. Both are constitutional rights in any democratic and civilized country. I hope someone or a group can encourage the lawmakers to change it.
She should be the pastor. "He took the abuse so you don't have to. So why are you taking it?" She's more of an inspiration. This is why I in my very humble opinion female pastors are better.
@@xchixchi3141 God said it for women before 2000yrs ago when women weren't allowed Education, but since its new gen, there are many educated women with intelligence, who can preach better than men..
@@xchixchi3141 as another comment said, that religion was made for a time thousands of yrs ago, and it is a fact that we are not living in those times anymore. it is a fact that beliefs and people that do not evolve , do not adapt, will die out, so what will you choose?
I'm no longer a Christian after the abuse I received from my PASTOR husband and church deacons that knew he was mentally sick. I still have PTSD from the 2 years of hell I endured he even made a statement in court that divorce didn't matter because in the eyes of God I'd still be his after I die. I told him I'd rather roast in Hell. For almost three years after he stalked me, especially after I go remarried and had a baby. Sad thing...he is still a pastor to this day.
Pastors like this bring shame to every religion, May that sweet young lady rest in peace. Justice for Mica.I apologize on behalf of all Follwers of Christ. Thank you, Stephanie, for bringing us this case. I do want to say I am a Christian who suffered from very serious religious trauma and a Christians actions doesn't represent God. A true Christian would never and should never do anything to spread hate or to harm anyone. God bless you all.❤ And remeber God says women should be loved, cared for, and respected, women are equal to men. And those who struggle remeber God says come as you are.❤.
Hey you guys know about the miryang case in korea. It happened in 2004. Three female were gang raped by 44 middle schoolers in a span over one year. No one went to jail. The parents of the rpist blame the gurls. And college didn’t want to accept victims of rpe. But now it is a big thing in korea because a youtuber exposed the predators. Stephanie i hope you cover this case again please bring attention to it
@@ManiyaVinasIn the bible God said no hand should shed innocent blood, also, God says women are treasures, and should be loved, cared for and respected, it's also stated we should love each other, without prejudice.God bless you❤ ❤️
I honestly assumed it was heroin at first. He definitely sounds like he’s constantly on some kind of drugs (not prescribed for mental health), which I think makes his behavior look even more dangerous.
I almost didn't click on this because I've seen a few videos about Mica now and thought I've heard it all. But you've covered her story so well and with so much more detail than others on YT. May she rest in peace.
And he claims his meltdown was caused by taking "a little too much" pain medication. 🙄 Pretends he doesn't even know what a hallucinogenic drug is. 😅 So many lies. RIP Mica
@@em83998 it's actually successfully practiced in a lot of communities, you have to realize american christians are not the only christians in the entire world
Many people with issues latch onto religion to excuse their actions and behavoors. My dad was one of them, he was a narcissist, religion seems to attrsct those people but i dont blame them. We are very flawed so no wonder why but at the same time its dangerous for them or theyll delude themselves
@@em83998it’s so RARE for me to find ex Mennonites! My Dads side of the family are all very active in the church… I’ve heard the most ATROCIOUS sermons in those churches. Racism and bigotry ran amok. I’m still hoping some of my family members will break free….
The line between the 2 is insanely blurry. I say that as someone raised in the evangelical church and a believer until I got away. I can't go back now because everytime I'm back in the environment my religious trauma rears up and I have an anxiety attack.
As someone raised in a different branch of Christianity, the stuff Americans manage to pass as "Christian" is bewildering to me. In what way, shape or form this man's misogynistic tirades about his wife and women in general are "sermons"? Why are random people WITHOUT ANY SPECIAL EDUCATION even allowed to start their own churches? It's just a breeding ground for cults, and the government does nothing to stop the spread of dangerous ideology as long as someone namedrops Jesus in the middle of their hateful rant... This man should've NEVER been allowed to become a preacher.
As someone raised in a different branch of Christianity, the stuff Americans allow to be passed as "Christian" is bewildering to me. In what way, shape or form this man's misogynistic tirades are "sermons"? Why are random people WITHOUT ANY SPECIAL EDUCATION even allowed to start their own churches? It's just a breeding ground for cults... This man should've never been allowed to become a preacher, NEVER.
He posted revenge porn and admitted to it and they still didn’t do ANYTHING to him..this is so sad and scary to think people like this exist and have so much power.
I think it's telling that in the /walk away/ vid their priorities show. She: "WALK. AWAY." He: " This will be on facebook in a few hours" She: "You'll be in jail in a few hours." She is clearly worried about her safety while he wants attention and validation from "the public" by trying to make her look bad.
Hey so. I have Bipolar 2. Obviously this is a case of domestic abuse, and mental health can range on severity. But Bipolar 2 exhibits hypomania and long term depression. When I experience hypomania, I feel "normal" and jolly before fluctuating back to depression. Hypomania literally means little mania. The mania that this guy preaches about is exhibited in Bipolar 1 not 2. It's a small detail but I feel like it shows a story that he's spun rather than her reality.
@@squidikiOh gods THANK YOU, fellow BP2er here. I almost typed out this very comment several times but was too frustrated to finish it every time. He did describe psychotic/manic behavior but that does NOT occur with BP2. He was lying through his teeth. Also his comments on lithium are very weird to me, weight gain maybe but I've never heard of anyone slurring their speech due to it, and I'm on more lithium than either one of them (according to his claims).
Fellow BP2er and 3rd year student mental health nurse here. I absolutely agree that the psychosis and mania he appears to be trying to allege are much more like BP1, I have never seen a patient with BP2 exhibit symptoms like that, not to the extent he speaks about. However, I have worked with patients with schizophrenia who have become very unwell and psychotic, where they don’t recognise family etc, but they are never only on lithium if they have both BP and schizophrenia ; all of the symptoms when they become very unwell and need assistance are generally extremely noticeable but can be treated. I’m just not sure about his allegations, more people would notice when someone becomes so unwell, also, slurred speech can be an extrapyramidal side effect of atypical antipsychotics, but then he’s saying she wasn’t taking her medication so even that doesn’t make sense. I mean none of us could know for sure but there are just a lot of peculiar things purely surrounding his information on mental health. Then there is EVERYTHING else…..
Yah for real I know someone with bipolar 2 closely and their mania does noticeably effect impulse control and give them harmful intrusive thoughts they're in danger of acting on, but it wasn't an insurmountable task to put precautions in place once a diagnosis was made. (They also do have delusions and hallucinations while unmedicated but this is only andecdotal)
Hes reffering to schizophrenia when he talks about the "crazy stuff". A shopping craze caused by a manic (even most psychiatrists simply call hypomania that) episode is something that could happen with bipolar 2 as well. And she could have rapid cyling. We don't know. The only thing I definitely doubt is her having hallucinations. That would not go unnoticed by others.
@@maddievaris Lithium can cause blurres vision, dizziness, confusion and slurred speech. It's why you're not supposed to takd it while driving. Everyones tolerance is different. I for one couldn't walk straight for 2 weeks on a doses that was considered "low".
IMO JP may not have killed Mica himself, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t arrange her demise. It is said that the fisherman who “found” her items made a call to JP’s friend after her death. The police did a minor investigation immediately assuring the self exiting. Too many things have created unanswered questions. Her body was found too far away from the multiple shell casings. How did her body get so far away in a still body of water. Her father said there was bruising on her hands…so many discrepancies unanswered. There needs to be justice for Mica, and JP needs to answer for his actions.
That fisherman is suspect AF! First of all, who in the hell would pick up some random person's stuff that they spotted on the shore from their fishing boat, go through all of it, take it with them back to their vehicle, drive off with it, and come back later in a different vehicle with the stuff to give to the police?? he claims he left because he needed a lighter, but why did he come back in a different vehicle??
@@KaileyB616 also, hearing a gunshot in a non hunting area and not calling the police? maybe its bc im a woman, but if im in an area that is not for hunting and i hear a gunshot, i wouldnt investigate but i would immediately call 911 and try to get to safety
And it's not just the shell casings her body was suspiciously far away from either. Her father said in an interview that her body was over 100 feet away from the actual firearm and also not anywhere near her purse either. So I agree it's super sketchy and more of and investigation should have been done. They owed her that much, to at least give her death a decent investigation, before making their assumptions based off that call.
I'm sorry, but as someone who was brought up Christian, this is very much how alot of pastors behave. I found out that my mother was harassed by her pastor and later discovered that he had SO MANY affairs and everyone within the church knew, yet they all ignored it.
All the “shows” he put on was just him trying to create a storyline/paper trial. He wanted everyone to think she was crazy so when he kills her (allegedly) he can say well I already told y’all she was off her meds and crazy etc. The whole adding her bf to the group chat while accusing her of all kinds of things was his way of creating a witness. He a serial cheater yet a pastor?!?!? Guilt tripping her with religion knowing she’s a devout Christian. Such a disgusting man. He did this idc what anybody say HE DID THIS!
We all know he did this. The ones who don't are probably his church brainwashed left over members. Because even the police know he did this and are helping him get away with murder.
He is just downright vile. It's disgusting to think that someone like that is allowed to be in a position of influence, or even allowed out in society at all.
My ex partner would do this and then would wait until I fell asleep and then jump on me and attack me . I'm 5ft2 and around 100 pounds . He was 6ft and he weighted 195 pounds and he boxed . This sometimes would go on for days with him attacking me until he was so out of breath he would collapse into the sofa. He would do this over days and days I was so exhausted and in such pain and so afraid of him I just did what he said . I tried to escape a few times I jumped out the bedroom window onto the porch roof and ran through my neighbour hood he ran after me tackled me in the street and dragged me back into the house and people where watching and took their kids inside.. Another time he punched me repeatedly while driving at like 70 mph he nearly crashed into the motorway barrier. He threw me out of a moving car and threw a massive suitcase on top of me and was kicking me back down into the ditch and ripping my clothes off the only reason he stopped is because a truck full of Irish Gypsy men stopped and threatened him . I had to plan my escape because his dad would help track me down when I ran away. Eventually I got away from him because he went to prison on drugs charges but he still tries to stalk my social media and my families social media.we split up 12 years ago . Police never helped me only asked why I didn't just leave..while I had broken ribs and clumps of hair missing my thighs were black from him pinching and punching my inner thighs while he was driving. I now have a nice partner who my ex is afraid of . And I have a big Pitbull who loves me and protects me so I'm not afraid anymore but I still think if he ever has a breakdown I'm Gona need to take extra measures to protect myself. I've told all my friends if I ever go missing or anything happens to me that's suspicious..it was my ex and his father helped him. To be honest I think I have PTSD from it all because he did so many things to over the years that I couldn't even remember everything until I was away from him for a few years . But my comment was more to demonstrate that the reasons why people don't leave is because it's dangerous for them . He would threaten my little sister all the time and that scared me so much and I wanted to keep his violence away from my family and I was ashamed. All his friends and family thought he was a really nice and cool guy . Some men (very few) did see through him but he always distanced from those men, he was a coward. He would never try bully another man like he did to me I'm not ashamed now and I talk about it because so many people go threw these things in silence and if I had of heard another women speaking about her violent partner and openly maybe I wouldn't of felt so ashamed and that I could of gotten more help to leave.
@@itsalwaysteatime3803 thank you for sharing with us tea, i do hope and pray you able to always stay safe both you and your family, i hope you know that your experiences and struggles are valid, and i agree with narcissistic has such disgusting dangerous way to always chained you up, even when its over.. sending so much love and hugs to your way, i hope you able to heal slowly by time
@@itsalwaysteatime3803 im really sorry, he is a horrible coward monster who is totally useless! so infuriating people like that exist and authorities dont help
They do that to wear you down, drain you in all ways, your strength, your identity to where they try to make it impossible to leave. They always want to keep you off balance which makes it easier to control a person. You know something is wrong and should or are trying to leave but the person is still trying their best to keep you as broken down and isolated as possible in the process. Then theres the shame and other complex emotions involved. You have to move mountains or have family and loved ones that will move mountains for you so that you can escape alive. Or at the very least, get out hopefully before at least physical ab*se begins. I've had an experience to where I was so ashamed and blamed myself for years. Couldn't even talk about it for fear of being ridiculed and not understood. They also tend to have so many freaking "friends" that would never believe it or at least have a small sense of the 'maybe he/she could' in the back of their mind but will be a ride or d'e for that person. Makes their smear campaigns easier with their flying monkeys. The one time I was involved with an ab'sive narcissist and there was also an age gap...he would not let me sleep if he was in a bad mood whether it was perceived to be my fault or not and would not stop the scary hysterics until he got s*x I didn't want to have even if I was barely awake from sleep deprivation. It wasn't just s*x if you know what I mean, but at the time I was too ashamed to admit to myself or anyone else what it was bc how could I let that happen to myself when I've heard so many other stories about those types of ab'sers, studied it and should know the signs. Its alot more going on than the "why didn't she just leave" that some ppl say willy nilly. It affects every aspect of you, and you're not completely that super strong willed "you" for some time. I found out that he was also cheating and taking adderall that was not prescribed to him in order to be able to stay up all night like that. I feel so bad for Mica bc she seems like she was so full of light and even in her darkest times still trying to shine and be free and he was an evil anchor....that's all monsters like that are- evil anchors. Always trying to dull, ab*se and not let her have any peace. She really did try and to me, it seems like the entire system as well as that looney bin church failed her. She made reports to the police (showed them proof on top of it) and the church and "community" knew what he was doing to her. Even if she pulled the trigger, he still has blood on his hands. He played the main part starting when she was only 15 years old.
The police failed her. She had so much digital evidence, was constantly being publicly harassed and abused, she was always calling the police, and they did nothing to help her. They deserve as much punishment as he does.
“She warned everyone that her ‘armed’ husband would shoot her, and then she was shot. Obviously suicide.” Sometimes police’s conclusions REALLY sound like Madlibs.
100%. Even if he didn’t murder her, the way he treated her was horrible and sick. I really don’t understand how he can be so loyal to God but still do horrible things like this. The deepest pit of hell definitely awaits him
The bible literally says “Not all who say “Lord, Lord” will go to heaven”. It’s easy to fake being a lover of God, but in the end he will show who the real ones are.
He was high on power. Imagine being in his position… He gets up on stage and dozens of people eat up whatever he says- every week. People praise him. It’s fame and power. Glorious to a narcissist.
Gaslighting and manipulation at its finest. He is so disgusting. He might not have physically pulled the trigger, innocent until proven guilty and all, but he definitely is psychologically responsible. His behavior is so gross and I really hope she gets justice because he needs to be stopped before he ruins anymore lives.
People use religion as a crutch; they think it’s a shortcut to being a moral person. There’s no such thing as “making the religion look bad” -- these kind of people ARE BAD people, preying on those who have been groomed or willfully brainwashed. Narcissists know where to find people who will give them power, no matter who you are or what you believe.
It's so hard to trust. I'm not religious but imagine there's a lot of trust put into a person like that that's leading your spirituality. And he was poisoning the congregation with toxicity
Exactly. The way he added her friend as an audience to the chat while he sends defamatory text. Making him sound like a victim when he is the aggressor.
I don't think it makes any sense to even entertain the idea she killed herself when she had a fanny pack with $500, cards, car keys, Bible etc. I don't see any explanation other than she tried to escape, he caught her, chased her down and shot her. She probably dropped or threw the pack while running in the hopes it would be a loud hint but it wasn't enough. I mean, she had even said if she was shot in the head it was JP, not her. I don't know how investigators could be confident in her death being her own choice. The money? The location? No note?? Constant threats whenever she tried to escape him? It's ridiculous.
I lived in this city for 8 years and my mom still lives there, actually only about 15 minutes from the area where the church is located. I could not believe this story when I first heard about it, and I'm SO GLAD one of my favorite true crime podcasts/channels is covering it, as you all always discuss the issues so deeply. You did an incredible job on this horrifically tragic story.
“Mica’s mom has been married several times!” Ummm…okay…did Mica’s mom marry one person, start a family, then 16 years later, at age 29, begin grooming the 15 year old babysitter, who later married one of her closest friends? Did she preside over their wedding, but soon after manipulate her into having a full-on sexual relationship? Did her inappropriate behavior blow up 2 marriages & alienate her young children? Did Mica’s mom cheat on everyone she’s been married to? Did she cheat with underage parishioners? Did she hire sex workers? Has Mica’s mom ever been convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon? No? Ok then……it’s not the same thing, right JP?
I live right near here and it was only talked at all by the locals, and I can 100% say he killed her. He skimmed all the money and pinned it on her, than killed her, people I know who went to the church say she’s been uneasy around him during services for a long time
That man is extremely dangerous. He has the church for his play ground. He has all of the dedicated congregation in the palm of his hands. He sounds like a master manipulater, and a narcissist. A narcissist when feeling like there loosing control of you, will try to control how people view you.
One thing Steph didn't mention was where Mica's body was found. The part of the park where she passed was owned by someone JP knows. I'm pretty sure it was his attorney, but I might be remembering wrong.
Wow, you give so much more detail compared to the emails I got from Christian websites that painted a different picture and somewhat ambiguous. They left out so many details. Thank you for the thorough coverage and the full truth!
Hey you guys know about the miryang case in korea. It happened in 2004. Three female were gang raped by 44 middle schoolers in a span over one year. No one went to jail. The parents of the rpist blame the gurls. And college didn’t want to accept victims of rpe. But now it is a big thing in korea because a youtuber exposed the predators. Stephanie i hope you cover this case again please bring attention to it
The fact that this woman reached out to police for help multiple times and they outright refuse to help her, but he was able to so easily get her admitted in a mental facility is actually terrifying
misogyny
She did everything right by telling the police and having supportive family members, but this tragedy still happened :(
They treated JP’s wife before Mica the same. They refused to help her.
But from what it sounds like, they really couldn't legally do anything because she was married to the guy. I dated a guy once who's ex started harassing him once she found out that he'd moved on. They'd purchased a house together, but she moved out once they'd split up. She literally threw a rock through the window one night, so he went to the cops, thinking they'd do something about it, but they told him that since her name was on the deed, she was not doing anything illegal by damaging her own property and they couldn't do a thing about it. She'd also just show up at the house whenever she wanted. She even peed in his truck and told him what she'd done, but the truck was legally hers as well, so again, the cops couldn't do a thing.
@@Banana-lk7tflol peed in the truck
As a person who was moved around to different churches. I learned most pastors tell on themselves in sermons all the time. For example one pastor said they struggled with materialism and money. Then they were later fired for embezzlement of church funds 💀
the power of uno reverse card in real life, hahahaha! XD
😂😂 lol
Matthew 17 v15: “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits". And this guy has some real rotten fruits
My step father is a Pastor and it's crazy how many of these monster's traits he has including publicly airing out marital problems disguised as sermons. Every. Damn. Time. Whenever the opportunity arises, he delights in telling any one who will listen how he's done this and that and how she's unrepentant, not born again, a sinner, etc etc. This shit was coming from a man secretly giving money to women in the church without my Mother's knowledge. I just cut to the chase and straight up told him, if anything happens to my Mother, I won't stop my revenge with him (I really, really hate the guy). He knows me enough to know I'm not bluffing.
yeaa my best friend back in primary school's dad was a pastor and he was pretty abusive to her apparently, also when i went to a sleepover at her house i drew a smiley face on my friend's arm when she was sleeping and he started screaming at me that its bullying, like bro why are u yelling at a random 12 year old u never met
Honestly even if she just killed herself he still murdered her. He made her life hell and pushed her to a breaking point. He is the reason she is dead.
@@thr3monthrestart325you sound like someone who would tell a depressed person to "stop being sad and be happy". Did missed the fact that she was having trouble with her mental health and had this toxic person in her life since she was FIFTEEN and her brain was underdeveloped still. It is not easy to see the red flags that early. And it's harder when you have people giving him a pass for some of his action. For example, cheating on his wife.
Murder & suicide is two completely different situation.
@@mskvllr never said he murdered her. You just missed the point of the previous comment which was the fact that he may have allegedly pushed her into committing suicide through his deplorable actions.
@@mskvllrif someone drives you to a point where you have to take your own life, is it really that much of a difference? you can still go to jail if you drive someone to commit.
@@mellowmallow4855 Absolutely nailed it. The type who loves memes that say "Choose happiness" and believe that people who are depressed just don't want to be happy. Good for them, having never experienced clinical depression, thinking having the blues like everyone does is the same as black waves of darkness and nothingness crashing down on you over and over until you just can't stand up again. Must be nice to not know what it's like, and to not have the burden of understanding and empathy for those who do. What luck. 😊
Can we talk about the people who stayed in the congregation of a known pedophile and cheater, now probably murderer? What tf is wrong with people
They're the same people doing it most likely. JP just seems like the type to prey on desperate and vulnerable people or yes men who do the same things he does for validation.
@@calico_queen8976 I agree, it's either brainwashed or a bootlicker. No in between.
They are insane. That man should have been nowhere near Mica in the first place.
But he’s a man of god!
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@@rachel2027no Christianity is all ab improving one’s self, in biblical times they used to castrate men who touched kids or graped ppl. those ppl are sick in the head and are sheep.
The police failed every victim that man harassed and assaulted.
They need to be held accountability as well as their abuser.
they’re likely abusers too. they tend to cover up for each other.
@@beanscream I will never get the case of that police department Steph covered out of my head. Never.
that`s why some people already lost trust toward law enforcement .... =(
the police chief being a part of his cult should tell you why he got away with everything
So true. They really failed her and everyone before her.
As someone from SC. He 10000000% did it. He’s so guilty it’s not even funny. His family is old money and has big roots. He knew he could get away with it
Why does death, chaos, and destruction always follow women around everywhere they go?
@@jragon9215what do you mean by that? if you’re implying that it’s the women’s fault you’re a sick person
@@jragon9215because of men like him
@@jragon9215because men are where women wre
@jragon9215 Mostly due to the fragile masculinity of "men."
Mica said “if I end up with a bullet in my head its not me its JP!” SHE SAID THAT! Believe her!!
no she didn't, no need to invent things
@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh uh, according to this account, she did. what do you know that her sister didn't?
@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh the video literally states that, no need to be so quick with your all knowing judgement 😅
@@VeronicaMoreno-qd8yh Mica’s sister said she told her that.
She actually did say that to her sister,at least according to her sister.
Psych student here.
I can tell he was researching the concept of 'human hacking' based on how he communicated around the DISC test in that one sermon.
He did not use it as Christopher intended when he authored his books, so the clear lack of empathy is confirmed. His selfish actions were not impulsive, as he showed those traits in other areas of his life, not just in the affairs.
On top of that, his misogynistic tendencies and growing levels of inner hatred both to the world around him, and his personal relationships are clear signs of decline.
This is a very dangerous man, being that he is already in a position of power. He is showing multiple behaviors and signs of those who go on to become cult leaders.
If you have a pastor who is making you feel less than or otherwise belittled, that is not a good sign.
Religions should make you feel safe and at peace, not the opposite. Trust your gut insticts and intuition.
An RUN at the first signs of anyone trying to thought police you, or try to speak as if your thoughts are caused by forces only they see. People like this mantake advantage of those who are highly spiritual, and it is better to be safe if you are ever unsure.
If any boundaries are crossed with no regard on the impact on your emotions, well-being, or safety, they will often continue and escalate.
Thank you for your comment, I’m personally a Muslim and went to one „church“ for Jehovas witnesses and it felt strange to me. In a mosque you only pray on the women’s side get to hear the call to prayer and on Fridays you get a little lecture over the speakers in the women’s room from the imaam and he answers questions as well as he can but most importantly never airs out anyone’s dirty laundry we donate to little boxes nobody really sees you do it if anyone is judgy in the mosque you can just leave and having men and women separated ALWAYS made me feel so at ease and protected as a child. There’s hardly any room for inappropriate things when you’re both separated and there is no such thing as a „youth imaam“ because that just sounds inappropriate especially from grown man to little girl. So church always confused me a lot and I’m glad I didn’t grow up like that because I was very naive as a child very insecure and someone like that could’ve easily taken advantage over me. It was a lot harder to grasp why so many Christian’s left the religion once they were grown up but I see now some churches play a big role and if the mosque were the same for me all my life I would’ve left too and I still did for a short period of time but nobody shamed me I came back on my own nobody keeps track of you nobody laughs at you it’s peaceful. I can’t imagine the pain these women or better said young girls must’ve felt all their life. It’s sickening
@@Bubblegum-bword your compassion is lovely, im so glad you were safe and have found peace in your religion - as someone that was raised mormon and am no longer religious its heartwarming to know that faith can be loving and true 💗
Thank you for raising gentle awareness.
Thanks STUDENT. 🥴
GIRL FOH
The fact that Alison tried to report JP's sexual abuse of minors to the police and the police said nothing could be done??? What...on earth?!
Right? Didn’t even launch an investigation. They might’ve been able to get a warrant for his electronics. The corruption is so unreal in South Carolina
@@Taewillsprobably lazy and eating doughnuts on their job .. typical
Yes this is not abnormal, this is why we say ACAB and call for the abolishment of this disgustingly corrupt establishment
So many times police just turned down even Micah because he is famous pastor. It’s the same thing happened to Scott Paterson’s wife because he was one of the cop so they covered up for him until it was too late.
I'd contact the FBI instead.
I am a Christian... I remember our pastor telling us that if someday we move into different places, we must find a good church. He said no church is perfect but we should look closely to its leaders because if they are preaching things other than what the Bible says, we must run and never go back to that church again. And I agree... It is like a cult preaching how to be loved by the world and teaching prosperity gospels
Real💗
That part… i just left a comment like this!!! If you don’t got scripture to back it up I am not going to listen to you. He came in with his own agenda
@@arlysanchez8099 that fr. He's not even backing up his words with evidence from the bible. Especially when talking about a man and woman's mind. You have to use biblical and psychological evidence to back that up. He obvious never even did his research just made something up
Amen!
@@AngelCake4433and the weaponization of "Godly" behavior in his marriage is downright sickening. He was so concerned about what his wife needed to do to act Godly and didn't show any accountability or care about how his own actions and words reflect on his own "Godliness"; repeatedly picking and choosing biblical teachings to paint himself in a good light and her in a bad light. What a deplorable, disgusting predator of a man who has no right being a leader to any body of Christ. I'd be embarrassed to have a pastor like this trying to teach me anything. My heart breaks for her and what she and her family have gone through.
"imagine being married to that" is what he says at his wife's funeral.... I cannot roll my eyes hard enough. 🙄 He can't even contain the disgust he feels for her at her funeral
I didn't even realize he used inhuman pronouns for her 😢
He's so disgusting.
Omg.
I took it as him seeing her only as a piece of meat to own. Not seeing her with disgust, but in a seedy, sexual, perverted and derogatory way. I mean, what pastor shows pictures of anyone (let alone his wife, and at a funeral!!) in a bikini! Plus, he posted the topless picture of her on his Facebook 🤢🤮😡😡😡
Either way, he is a horrendous excuse for a man
Bruh, the amount of hate this man has for his wife while at the same time being so obsessed with her.
If it’s true, “I played into her delusions sometimes” isn’t the cute joke he thinks it is. That’s genuinely so awful for someone to do to a schizophrenic person.
She wasn’t schizophrenic at all. He was gaslighting!!!
she wasn't sick at all.
He met her when she was 15, and he was 29. That fact can't be contested. We have a verdict, your honor.
@@Alicest. Also Stephanie keeps saying 15, but everything else that I have heard and seen has said she was only 14.. That she was 14 when her family moved to South Carolina and join the church. That's when she met JP and he immediately began grooming her 😔 This poor woman never had a chance.
@@CaseyMarie11-11I don’t think it matters. 15 or 14 still too immature and too young to be trying to take away her choices so easily . no matter what age he was, he was a grown man and new better!! she had no choice like you said. no chance to live her own decisions and mistakes.
@@treubaking It's a year difference.
@@Flamsterettematurity wise there is not much difference, youre pretty much at the same maturity level at both of those ages.
@@CaseyMarie11-11lll⁹
“They say God hates divorce because it hurts people, but doesn’t abuse hurt people too?” is so true.
There are exceptions to this such as abuse and others
@mayc8674 except divorce was allowed....Jesus even talks about it
@@epic7224lies you don't know what you talking about Jesus do condones divorce
Scripture never says that abuse must be tolerated in any relationship! Abuse (real) is worse than divorce. Nowadays though, what's defined as abuse is abused! Everything in this story with JP though IS DEFINITELY ABUSE!
@@mayc8674to try and blame her is absolutely insane and foul and I hope you never have a good day again.
Lmao the amount of linguistic gymnastics stephanie has to do not to catch a lawsuit is insaneee😭
I wish she could go mask off and say “we all know he did it, he’s disgusting, fuck him”
But impressive!
Not really. He hasn't been found guilty in a court of law (and tbh I don't think he has anything to do with her death directly)
He has a pretty solid alibi. It just wouldn't be wise to blatantly accuse him of murder
@@FIRING_BLINDNobody has claimed JP was responsible for Micah's death, but the listeners can think for themselves especially those of us who have lived with a narcissistic mentally ill person. This young lady is only sharing what she has learned from her research, so she has no reason to be sued for reporting on the story.
Haha fr
Sooooo he had soooo much things to say like how a woman should treat her husband but nothing about how a husband should treat his wife but instead he talks negative about a woman… interesting how ppl actually attended and listened to him when he’s obviously off putting with his words and they know it.
He'll, I wouldn't be surprised if some of those people also treat the women in their lives similar.
The sexism, woman-hating, incel talk is so obvious. It's scary seeing people like this have a following.
The "if I look at another woman, it's her fault because she's immodest" speech was infuriating
You’d be surprised how easily people can be manipulated. Heck even the general hate for Chinese and Muslims was a targeted form of mass manipulation that people dont really understand they were manipulated into hating or looking down on them.
wolves in sheeps clothing
False prophets. The writings in the wall 🚨💯
Project 2025 is heavily endorsed by the church
Pastors like these bring shame to Christianity , they don't care about Jesus or God all they care about are their egos and material wealth . #JusticeforMica
Hey you guys know about the miryang case in korea. It happened in 2004. Three female were gang raped by 44 middle schoolers in a span over one year. No one went to jail. The parents of the rpist blame the gurls. And college didn’t want to accept victims of rpe. But now it is a big thing in korea because a youtuber exposed the predators. Stephanie i hope you cover this case again please bring attention to it
Hey you guys know about the miryang case in korea. It happened in 2004. Three female were gang raped by 44 middle schoolers in a span over one year. No one went to jail. The parents of the rpist blame the gurls. And college didn’t want to accept victims of rpe. But now it is a big thing in korea because a youtuber exposed the predators. Stephanie i hope you cover this case again please bring attention to it
thats the majority of pastors lmao
@@Goofygoober-d8yit ain’t but okay
They're narcissists ...just like 'god'.
It’s so crazy that he is so outspoken about abusing women. But It shows what years of not being held accountable and praised does to a person like him. People like him are so scary …
As well as all those that ignore what they know has happened/happening. He wasn't fired for any of it including the recent Embezzlement the FBI is investigating him for. He gave a bullshit he is taking time to heal blah,blah, blah!💔😠
I'm more angry at the people who let themselves be blinded and brainwashed by people like this guy. He's not a man of Christianity, or Jesus, he's just a narcissistic evil human who fou d the perfect scenario to carry out his evil life. I'm not even religious, maybe that's why it's so easy for me to see through their brainwashing techniques...
Narcissists are dangerous and evil people
Love that Stephanie’s husband is almost always in the background XD He is like our avatar in a sense, asking questions that we have or reacting how we do. It’s very natural and not scripted like other podcasts.
He's always asking the questions we want to ask . He doesn't show his ever because he doesn't want to. We don't know his name either so we call him mr. Mangobutt
Lol sometimes I feel like he isn’t paying attention 😂😂 he will ask a question and I’m like “Weren’t you listening to your wife?” 😂😂 but I love how he supports her and most of the time I agree with his reactions 😂
I’m also side eyeing the people who attended these “sermons” faithfully.. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
Fr I wonder if anyone called it out of just walked out of there
Yea, I would have had a sermon of my own on the way out the door to find a better church.
That's my big issue with Churches. The congregation isn't allowed to challenge anything said. It's like going to a book club where you don't actually read the book and aren't allowed to ask questions, some guy just tells you what he wants you to think the book meant. It's never a discussion
@@TheAwesomes2104 who said that ? Yes you can challenge anything said , I've done it many times . Though they won't like you very much LOL
Especially the people who stayed after finding out he cheated on Alison with Mica who he met when she was 15…. All of them r wierd.
I love how Allison was a girls girl to the end despite Mica being "the other woman.” She had all reason to be mad at mica but she never let any of that get to their relationship before that (and I feel that she knew JP had a hand in the whole thing further in advance anyway so it’s not her fault). Not many have that same perspective when that’s happened to them so her kindness is admirable!
After 16 years with that monster, she was probably glad to have a way out of the marriage. That's the only way he would have ever let Mica go...if there was someone younger he wanted to be married to instead.
What?!?!
@@caseyw.6550
They are all groomed for these type of men.
Im from a smallish town and at one point was dating a boy VERY well connected to city officials, he ended up crashing my car while drunk (with me in it) got arrested and the charges weren’t just dropped they COMPLETELY disappeared like it never happened. All with one phone call. So I fully believe JP was well connected on top of just being powerful himself. It would have been extremely easy to get this murder covered up
Edit: him being a Pastor (confessions) I’m sure he also had BIG dirt on police officers, sheriffs, Judges and everyone in between.
It will likely come back to these police, judges, etc. Surely, they all have wives, daughters, sisters, etc. that know the pastor
Priest takes confessions, not Pastors
Wrong religion
But if I date an 18 yr old it's the town talk
Well this type of church doesn’t take confessions, it’s more of a counseling on wrong doing.... it’s more of a conditioning cult than anything, and embarrassment is one of the tactics they use most often too. No one wants to be shamed in front of their entire town.
that community is protecting him... i wouldn't be surprised if the Police are protecting him too.
the way that man texted her family after her death is so fucking disgusting. what an awful person.
I love the family member that said “fuck outta here!” tho. i’m sure they were far over his bullshit.
his text to her family further shows how he shifts blame to others.
Why are "pastors" diving into human psychology so much. Like stfup. From where do you get the right to talk about it. I'm saying this as a Christian.
I think it's high time the congregation begin to revolt. Because he/she is a pastor doesn't mean they can dabble into areas where they have no experience or authority. People need to start walking out during sermons. Misogyny and patriarchy is so embedded into religion, it's scary.
I mean, when you think you have the correct answers to unknowable questions, like "Was the universe created?" "What happens to us when we die?" Then, it's really not surprising to think you have answers to everything else too.
Because they know updated facts are responsible for the decline of believers.
So many pastors are trying to combat that by speaking on psychological issues. If they do it with authority (fake it till you make it), learn buzzwords, then many followers don’t even question what’s being preached from the pulpit.
It's why I really love my church. They value historical context, and theology. There's always context, it's not just cherry picking verses and preaching your backwards beliefs. Many of my pastors have Masters and Doctorates about Biblical Theology from credited universities. They know what they're talking about. But not all pastors do. Pastors are humans too, and they mess up, and they have the ability to be evil, just like anyone else
@@mikchimin Theology and psychiatry/ psychology aren’t remotely the same. Theology isn’t evidence based, regardless of the accredited university in which the degree is received. Be careful assuming “they know what they’re talking about” just because you know their educational background- definitely question, research & think for yourself.
The video of Mica telling JP to walk away:
He was threatening to post a topless picture of her on Facebook… which he did do, and she filed a police report over it.
Would he not be placed on the sex offenders register for doing that ?? In Ireland and the UK . If you do that you have to register as a sex offender. Rightly so!
@itsalwaysteatime3803 unfortunately, no. I live in South Carolina, and the cops told Mica that since JP blurred out her nipples, the picture doesn't count as SA. Also since it was posted anonymously, the cops told Mica that there's no way of finding out who posted it. Our laws really need to catch up with the current times.
@@katelynbrown98 that's awful poor mica . Well at least when people commit violent murder in the USA usually when they get life in prison..it means life in prison. In Ireland the sentences for violent and sexualcrimes are shockingly low !
@@katelynbrown98but he confessed to doing it the "i'm sorry i just wanted to hurt you" can't she not use it as evidence? then it wouldn't be "anonymous" anymore....if that happens could she have filed for like a restraint against him?
Maybe? I'm really not sure. @@blue_02
I haven’t had a case made my blood boil as much as this. She was crying out for help for so long, and even told everyone that if she was found dead it wouldn’t be her. What more proof do you need. Rest in power, Micah.
A pastor with a huge congregation turned out to be a self-serving, abusive groomer, with narcissistic tendencies?? I'm shocked...
Hahaha
Well not that shocked
Pikachu face
😂😂😂😅
Also seems to be a closeted homosexual with some of the details, which makes sense why he’s so focused on sexual acts and keeping her quiet. She knows too much.
Unrelated to the case but; It’s incredible how Stephanie’s Co-host (I think also her husband?) asks all the questions we’re thinking. Every video I watch, he asks questions I never thought to even consider and the clarifying questions wrap up even the smallest parts of a case. Thanks dude!
Yesss i agree her husband is very nice 🥰 I always see people complaining about it but i like how he asks questions
I do, too!
Yes every time I hear he talk, I see green flags everywhere lol
really tho!! I think about this every time I listen to or watch rotten mango
@@twiceuwuu me too. And often his questions help clarify some pretty crazy level of detail, because stories like this always have so many moving parts 😊
I'm Muslim, I love how you aren't religious but when you make a video on a case that involves religions you're always making sure to be nice and to separate the beliefs from the actions ...I deeply respect you as you respect people and don't want to offend anyone, I'm not Christian but I know that what I'll hear in this case isn't a part from Christianity.
Every group of people and every community and every belief and every place on earth will have good and evil humans.
💯💯 "never forget to say FREE palestine " motaz azaiza iykyk ❤🇵🇸
@@unknownunknown2576 insha'Allah Palestine will be Free 🇵🇸 ❤
Am I the only one who thought this was a real person?
@@Starfish-kx3du I didn't understand your comment, what do you mean?
It doesn't matter what religion or which part of the world, sadly, there will always be bad people.
The Venn diagram between purity culture and grape culture is a circle
well they are the only people who are so obsessed with sex
@@m4ttawell there’s nothing wrong with purity culture at the at its root
Nothing says "True love" more than spilling your dead spouse's dirty laundry all over the internet right after they died. 👀
All these "diagnoses" that JP "claims" she had were probably all his. The guy is a huge narcissist.
Right?? He was definitely self projecting. May she rest in peace
Don't even get me started with his fake crying. I almost felt nauseated every time I hear it. Even the site of his smug face makes me sick.
Even if they weren't, one of them doesn't warrent trackers (bpd2). That's him using the buzz word of bipolar and hoping when people see that it's full naming is bipolar depressive that they'll stop looking there and not realize that it's way milder than the media portrays "bipolar" to be because the media always just calls it "bipolar" rather than bipolar manic and bipolar depressive (bpd1 and bpd2 respectively) which in turn causes a terrible stigma around the mental illness.
Apologies I'll climb off my soap box now
He’s evil
It's for sure it's all about him. Everything he said about her it was all him.
"Only God can judge (me), BUT! As a pastor, let me judge every single person in my congregation under the excuse of a 'sermon' :)" Because yeah, clearly that's the godly way.
that man is FAR from God, let me tell you
Such a dumb quote cause I stay judging everyone. No one is safe, especially not him 😂
I get you 😂. People nowadays be worshipping Pastors and not God. If only people read the bible for themselves then they'd see the deception from a mile away.
Disgusting, I don't know how people sit there and not literally walk away from it. The first thing I look at sermons in different religions, if the pastor/father is only talking about personal experiences rather than talking about the experiences of the bible characters and learning from it?. Straight up exit. Or maybe they do share something relatable but always, just always use bible verses as a solution and answer for those
@@v.vivienne3762alot.of.people have no discernment. And dont have the wisdom to ask for it either
As someone who used to be in an abusive relationship, all these allegations sound so familiar. I was 19 when I met someone 6 years older than me and I thought the world of them because they were an adult in my eyes and they wanted to take care of me. Then after years together he did yell at me things that shot my confidence down to the ground. Yet still accused me of sleeping with everyone who laid their eyes on me. When I wanted to just sleep after an argument he would keep me awake yelling,threatening, and shaking me awake till I gave a reaction and he would just laugh to see me angry. I would cry nonstop and he always made me feel alone. He knew I was religious(catholic) and would take my Virgin Mary statue and threaten to break it all the time , and destroy my stuff plush dog that I had when I was a year old (that stuff dog was my everything). So yea I can definitely see why anyone would wanna exit this world when they go through this because I’ve tried on several occasions, but I knew if I didn’t do it myself my abusive then boyfriend would definitely do it. Luckily I managed to leave and it took a lot to resist the urge to go back due to the abuse and manipulation
My heart goes out to you, you endured alot. You bringing your stuffed animal gave a glimpse into you still being a child, emotionally and he was definitely smitten to that! I left all my stuffed animals at my parents home to not loose them, but i would cry for my little girl self if i saw the person i loved destroying them to hurt me. Thank God you made it out. ❤
@@elliecasta1145 yes definitely took advantage of that side of me but luckily I found someone who loves to buy me stuffed animals and plushies to make me smile and doesn’t judge me when I have my stuffed dog with me ❤️❤️❤️thank you for the kind words
Mika's dad said the gun was found 40 meters from her body. It was also reported that the water was practically still so how could her heavy body or the heavy gun "float" away when the water is essentially still? And just because she "calmly called" the police doesn't mean there wasn't someone pointing a gun to her head to make her do that. And the fact she let people know that if she's found with a bullet in her head...it's him. Also, as a victim of abuse myself from a narcissistic sociopath, they gaslight you to the point when you literally don't even want to live, so even if she did do it herself, he's 100% responsible. She most likely had little to no mental health issues until she married him. I can say that with personal experience. I was never mentally ill until I met my abusive ex. He drove me to mental illness. You have no idea to what extent immense mental and physical abuse can do to the human mind. It's absolute torture. I believe this man is guilty regardless of whether she did it herself or he did it to her (in my opinion). It's extremely obvious.
The teo used casings, if one was used in her, it would mske sense that the second one was used prior to the call, to make sure she stays calm on the call, maybe making her recite it and when her voice waivered he shot next to her. Then after the call he shot her dead. Maybe
See I remember her sister saying she said if she gets shot or killed it’s him not her. So what I’m thinking maybe he did hire someone or did it himself and she was at the point where she just didn’t want to fight anymore with this monster. OR my other thought was maybe when she was on the phone talking calm it was because he or whoever was hired threatened to hurt someone close to her like her family and she might have felt defeated I noticed too when I listened to the 911 call she talks slow in some parts and also pauses like she might be with someone and she sounded as if she was trying to drop hints that someone was with her. I saw somewhere too that she bought the gun for her protection and HE KNEW IT! He knew she was gonna buy a gun and himself or again someone he hired followed her that day to the store. Again even if she did in the end take her own life…her blood is on his hands for the way he psychologically and physically abused her.
I had the thought about the security footage of her going into that store to purchase the gun,and having a large tattoo of a cross on her hand.Now when shown standing at the counter,both hands were placed on top of the counter.
That shot of both her hands were pretty easy to see and there was absolutely no sign of a large,probably quite dark colored tattoo of a cross on either hand.
What if it wasn't her entering the store to buy a gun but the woman he was alleged to have cheated with Sue.
Just a thought but enquiring minds would be interested to know if anyone else had the same thought.
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I work very very close to this church and a few of my regulars attend/attended this church. One thing I'd like to mention just to show how fucked up that church is, Bernard Kenerson, someone who was in a leadership position at that church up until this case blew up, is a child sex offender. He was charged with sodomy with child, indecent liberties with child and indecent acts with another. The girl was 8 years old and the documents state it was a family member. It happened a long time ago but in my personal opinion, as well as people in the community i've talked to, it's absolutely disgusting that the church let him have a leadership position at that church where he's going to be working with children. that church is just sketchy and weird in a lot of ways.
Wow. I'm sorry you had to work with someone so disgusting and rancid. That "man" shouldn't be considered a human being.
Haven't come across a decent church. Haven't come across a righteous pastor. Haven't come across an honest politician.
Still haven't met a "good" Christian.
It’s always those types of people defending each other to keep each other in power. There’s probably people who relate to the higher ups and want them to stay being in power🙁
Yes and even he had to come out against JP. I count 5 child molesters in that church.
@@annieannie2887are you from the US?
hi stephanie i’m from Shasta County Redding,CA and a local woman Nikki Cheng Saelee McCain has been missing since may 18th two weeks before before her husband was to go to trial for a long list of DV charges. he was caught dumping her truck that went missing with her, and set her property on fire yet is still out and a free man. the police and DA still haven’t listed him as a suspect in her disappearance. as of today july 5th 200 people rallied outside the courthouse to show their frustrations and disappointment after the courthouse dismissed all DV charges against him. his family owns a house right next to the Win River Casino which is all on a native reservation. his brother had two ex girlfriends who allegedly both self exited on their property which is tribal land. she’s a mom of four and her family are desperately searching for her. you bringing awareness to the case would do so so much. we live in the same town as sherri papini and nikki isn’t getting nearly as much news coverage as sherri did. even just reposting the hashtag #bringnikkihome would be so helpful
1:19:14 “I can’t wait to see her again one day.” You most likely won’t, you ungodly husband
Wow Mica literally wanted a counselor to help her get through her divorce without using spite or acting out of anger. That’s really admirable to me.
Exactly! But she wanted to self exit though???
@@ericanguy1 nothing indicated that she wanted to self exit
@@ericanguy1 I went through something very similar to Mica. My ex started cheating on me 3 months into the marriage. He isolated me so I had no way to leave him for 4 years. Finally managed to get out of it, went to counseling, had a lot of support from friends, but still there were tipping points, almost went back to him one time, was suicidal multiple times. I hope Mica gets her justice but at least for me, its not so unbelievable for me to think she wanted to self exit.
@@tyreseforren6721people who are suicidal can be very good at hiding it, unfortunately.
People are still giving that church 5 star reviews on Google. Absolutely fcking sick how they can all just have their heads buried in the sand. The church still has Mica in the bio for JP as a loving wife. The devil is working overtime in that “congregation”. And other Christians wonder why other people give us the side eye all of the time. Mica deserved better and I pray that she gets peace and that JP gets an earthly punishment AND one in the next life too.
When the Bible said “Thou shalt not take the LORD thy God’s name in vain.” This the stuff they were talking about.
Yes, using God's name as an excuse for abuse is using his name in vain. Not saying, "Oh my God," "Jesus Christ," "Lord Almighty!"
@@rnbsteenstarbut you also shouldn’t use gods name as a swear word
Bring down the google review. Justice for Micah and anyone that died because of him
Im a Christians and i truly feel that the police didnt handle this well and i feel like some members of the church shouldve at least did something to protect her . JP need s to be in jail because what ?!?! and i think its unfair for people to stereotype Christians like that because everyone is different and the belief does not spread misogyny.Anyone that still attends that church or support that pastors need help coz what?!!?thats concerning
@@dustmite723 You can’t use a name as a swear word. That’s impossible.
Wait, he’s gonna blast his dead wife’s texts into public.
Wowwww.
He killed her.
The Bible shows how to treat your wife! Says to be intoxicated in her and not other woman. There’s no justify what he has done. Rest easy beautiful🩷you’re with our father now🙏
exactly
He influenced her wrongful death, doesn't matter if he physically did it. Justice must be served. It is disgusting how people like JP have a position of power to further influence the mass public who follow these awful humans.
Agreed.
Holy crap. This is why the people on the internet should never ever be in the position of power to convict people if we’re going off this loony statement.
She brought food and didn't even get to eat it!
@@imperialhistorian4201 Luckily the law disagrees with you since that girl in Mass was charged for encouraging her bf to self-exit until he did it.
Causing someone to self-exit on purpose absolutely needs to be a crime.
@@prettyevil6662000 That's if it can be proven in court, the pastor didn't cause her wife to self exit like that girl in Mass did.
oh gosh i hate when "pastors" use religion to get away with saying and doing the most disgusting shxt.
FORSURE!
People use religion as a crutch; they think it’s a shortcut to being a moral person. There’s no such thing as “making the religion look bad” -- these kind of people ARE BAD people, preying on those who have been groomed or willfully brainwashed. Narcissists know where to find people who will give them power, no matter who you are or what you believe.
you mean men?
@@4bbb711 just saying but like this is sexist too
@@4bbb711 this is the most sexist thing I've ever heard
“I have a dominant personality! Guess who else has a dominant personality? Satan lmaooo!”
Bro what
I laughed out loud at "Satan, Hillary Clinton and Hitler". Like... Yeah. Dude told on himself on more levels than one.
He is an absolutely deranged person, imo.
if the shoe fits
Right!
I think that he also just told us his political beliefs since he named Hillary Clinton, but not Trump. Don't get me wrong, both of them are trash, and either or both of them could've been named. It's just funny how you can tell someone's political beliefs based on which one of those they decide to group in together with Satan 😂
In a small breath ' men should not be in power' had me in stitches 😂❤
I got into an argument with my boyfriend (now ex, you’ll see why) a few months ago and it was about the bear versus man thing. And by the end of the debate, I realized that he felt exactly like this about women. One of the many terrible things he said to me was “if women were in power, we would still be in the dark ages because women are less intelligent than men” he actually believes that men are better than women in every way. And we had been together for a long time at this point. How did I never know that he felt this way about women? He has a good relationship with his mom too. Another one of the terrible things he said was that all women were w***s and liars and that’s all they would ever be. The only thing they are good for having kids. That’s their only purpose. That and S3X. I lost all respect for him that day, but turns out he never had an ounce of respect for me to begin with.
More power to u girl... such people need to be left alone the minute they yap out their reality.
glad you got a terrible person out your life
It could come from his mom. That’s how my grandma raised my dad and uncles. Instead of teaching them to be real men, responsible, protectors, good sons, brothers, friends, husbands and fathers. She instead would criticize their girlfriends and wife’s and even made some divorce because they were “w****s”. My grandpa was a womanizer charmer and though a terrible example I think she’s the worst.
@@em83998 LMAOOO but she does have a point but the men ofc should be held accountable as they are adults and should be able to think for themselves and change from those ways taught by their mother
@@em83998 very fucking true, nobody holds grown ass men accountable for their actions and always find excuses for them
Your pastor pressuring you to become a fleshlight & not say anything critical to your spouse is a fatttt red flag lmao
Don't be silly, he did say something critical about them! Men are weak and prone to stray, which is why it's so important that women sacrifice and submit and bend over backwards for them. No no, that doesn't mean that women should be in charge, that'd be crazy, but he did call out men for sinful thoughts and leaving the cabinet door open! (Sarcasm, if that wasn't clear)
I really don't get why you wouldn't want your wife to be an individual with their own thoughts and needs. I'd feel so icky if I knew that my wife was only staying quiet and sleeping with me whenever I want just to appease me. They just frfr see women as sex toys that can get pregnant and clean.
Marriage is like a gamble:
- marry the right person, life's 10x better
- marry the wrong person, your life becomes hell
more for women than moids, married moids life longer and earn more money, married women live shorter lives and are broke
statistically single women are happier than single men
That’s why I’ve never done it and never will
Unfortunately seen the second one with multiple friends... Scares me to let someone in my life...
@@K-xj3wj In gambling, basically a 9/10 chance you’ll lose.
I understand where you’re coming from but there’s definitely steps that should be taken before one gets married.
Sometimes ppl act like it’s all about good luck or bad luck, when the truth is that, everyone must do their due diligence!
Honestly, I don't know how you two don't pull all your hair out of your heads with how unbelievably insane some of these cases often are????!!!! This kind of insanity could quite literally drive a person to drink!! As usual, both of you always exhibit perfect professionalism, empathy, and class. Thanks to you both and all your staff, for all your hard work, research, fact-checking, and dedication!!!! Thank you, I'm a big fan!!!! Good luck in all your future endeavors!!!!
💗🙏💜GOD BLESS💜🙏💗
This is my home town. The way the Robeson county police department handled this situation was very odd. Lots of information has changed or new things have been added. we’re all suspicious, Pastor JP. #JusticeForMica 😢
Police was defs paid off
This must be more upstate SC. I live in the low country and never heard of this guy.
They gave him a special "Pastor" badge, there's no way they're gonna go after him fairly ever.
Its in North Carolina near the SC border. Its not in SC. @user-fc8cj9ld8i
Mica was found in Orrum, North Carolina. My home town is in Robeson which was the police department that took on the case. Burnis Wilkins has been in hot water this year already and this case didn’t help at allll
The fake laugh cry at her memorial. He doesn't know how to act. Act being the key word. Because he doesn't actually have the ability to feel those emotions.
💯 psychopath
Hella Chris watts porch interview vibes
@JasmineRachelle22 Yes I was thinking the same
Even if she committed self-exit, he no doubt drove her to it. It's murder by proxy.
YUP just like that one case when that teen girl was texting her boyfriend to go ahead and end it. then he did do it and she got charged with his death
I started sobbing at her voicemail. What a sweet soul. May you rest in eternal peace and joy Micah 💗
You deserved so much better
The ring tattoo is EXACTLY what an abused spouse would do. The abuser literally brands them!
This!
He killed her. Cant change my mind on this he reminds me of Chris Watts.
Yes, I remember that case, it was horrible
I had the same thought. He looks like him and gives off the same disturbing vibe.
@@Dan_Ben_Michaelhe also sounds as emotionless as him
As far as I’m concerned, even if he did not physically pull the trigger, the abuse of power, sexism, and everything you did to Micha is him killing her. He killed her.
It sounds like those 18 people “who were messaging her concerned about their relationship “ were in the room and he was chastising them while simultaneously making sure nobody else would either
abusers will keep you awake at night because it makes you easier to manipulate. after arguing for hours at night, you're willing to submit to a lot that you wouldn't in the right mind. it's horrible and traumatic to experience
FACTS! my sister who suffers from bipolar and narcissistic tendencies would do this often at night with me. She can never live with me again.
Sleep deprivation is literally a step in a how to for brainwashing.
Pick the goodhearted kind nice guy who is extremely loyal and always has your back and good intentions for you always and this is unlikely to happen.
Yes... my ex would drunkenly follow me from room to room berating me and call me names and accusing me if EVERYTHING under the sun including cheating, being a prostitute, a nymphomaniac, a porn star, sleeping with the neighbors, and on and on. If I locked him out of a room he'd kick in the door. I was getting up for work at 730am, getting home at 530pm, fighting until 4am ish every single work day for MONTHS AND MONTHS. I was fired for falling asleep at my desk over and over.
@@chrislong8559oh shut up victim blamer you aren't welcome here.
It's important to remember that in South Carolina you are legally required to be separated for one year before being allowed to divorce UNLESS you can prove in court a few very specific scenarios (infidelity, abuse, or substance dependency). It is my feeling that this is why the original divorce was dropped and replaced with the legal separation.
😳
My aunt had to wait to move because of this law, though the cops caught my uncle cutting her brakes. He is also a pastor and cheated.
He also was injecting her legs after a surgery and she caught him doing it. The doc was clueless why she wasn't healing .
@tracihawley33 🤯🤯 that's awful! I hope that she's safe now.
That's such a st*pid law. I don't know a lot about USA and the culture of each state but I understand each state has different laws. I assume in that state it's VERY difficult to live, not being allowed to get a divorce just because you want it's insane. That's against the liberty of expression and doing whatever you want that's not a crime. Both are constitutional rights in any democratic and civilized country. I hope someone or a group can encourage the lawmakers to change it.
She should be the pastor. "He took the abuse so you don't have to. So why are you taking it?" She's more of an inspiration. This is why I in my very humble opinion female pastors are better.
I was thinking the same thing. Give the female the microphone.
ITS A SIN. WOMEN CANT BE PASTORS SORRY MY CAP IS LOCKED
@@xchixchi3141 God said it for women before 2000yrs ago when women weren't allowed Education, but since its new gen, there are many educated women with intelligence, who can preach better than men..
@@xchixchi3141 as another comment said, that religion was made for a time thousands of yrs ago, and it is a fact that we are not living in those times anymore. it is a fact that beliefs and people that do not evolve , do not adapt, will die out, so what will you choose?
@@xchixchi3141what..
I'm no longer a Christian after the abuse I received from my PASTOR husband and church deacons that knew he was mentally sick. I still have PTSD from the 2 years of hell I endured he even made a statement in court that divorce didn't matter because in the eyes of God I'd still be his after I die. I told him I'd rather roast in Hell. For almost three years after he stalked me, especially after I go remarried and had a baby. Sad thing...he is still a pastor to this day.
Pastors like this bring shame to every religion, May that sweet young lady rest in peace. Justice for Mica.I apologize on behalf of all Follwers of Christ. Thank you, Stephanie, for bringing us this case. I do want to say I am a Christian who suffered from very serious religious trauma and a Christians actions doesn't represent God. A true Christian would never and should never do anything to spread hate or to harm anyone. God bless you all.❤ And remeber God says women should be loved, cared for, and respected, women are equal to men. And those who struggle remeber God says come as you are.❤.
Hey you guys know about the miryang case in korea. It happened in 2004. Three female were gang raped by 44 middle schoolers in a span over one year. No one went to jail. The parents of the rpist blame the gurls. And college didn’t want to accept victims of rpe. But now it is a big thing in korea because a youtuber exposed the predators. Stephanie i hope you cover this case again please bring attention to it
@@ivylinmoon7211 that sounds so awful, i hope she covers it.
You want to imply that Gawd wouldn't approve of this? On which basis?
@@ManiyaVinasIn the bible God said no hand should shed innocent blood, also, God says women are treasures, and should be loved, cared for and respected, it's also stated we should love each other, without prejudice.God bless you❤ ❤️
@@ManiyaVinasplease don’t start an argument under a true crime video please.
He doesn't look possessed. He acts like a child, and those are tantrums. Like a child that "gets what he wants."
It's both. If you're possessed/oppressed, growth is impossible.
I honestly assumed it was heroin at first. He definitely sounds like he’s constantly on some kind of drugs (not prescribed for mental health), which I think makes his behavior look even more dangerous.
He looks emotionless. He looks like the devil.
I almost didn't click on this because I've seen a few videos about Mica now and thought I've heard it all. But you've covered her story so well and with so much more detail than others on YT. May she rest in peace.
And he claims his meltdown was caused by taking "a little too much" pain medication. 🙄 Pretends he doesn't even know what a hallucinogenic drug is. 😅 So many lies. RIP Mica
As a Christian that man doesn't have Jesus in him but something else. Breaks my heart ppl like this with issues are preaching 😐
💯 I have a fake preacher in my family
@@em83998 it's actually successfully practiced in a lot of communities, you have to realize american christians are not the only christians in the entire world
@@em83998 you'll be humbled and cry out to the Lord later in life. it's always like that.
Many people with issues latch onto religion to excuse their actions and behavoors. My dad was one of them, he was a narcissist, religion seems to attrsct those people but i dont blame them. We are very flawed so no wonder why but at the same time its dangerous for them or theyll delude themselves
@@em83998it’s so RARE for me to find ex Mennonites! My Dads side of the family are all very active in the church… I’ve heard the most ATROCIOUS sermons in those churches. Racism and bigotry ran amok. I’m still hoping some of my family members will break free….
I'm a Christen woman, this church sounds like a cult
Aren't all churches a cult? With different degree of linience allowed.
The line between the 2 is insanely blurry. I say that as someone raised in the evangelical church and a believer until I got away. I can't go back now because everytime I'm back in the environment my religious trauma rears up and I have an anxiety attack.
Religion is a cult
As someone raised in a different branch of Christianity, the stuff Americans manage to pass as "Christian" is bewildering to me. In what way, shape or form this man's misogynistic tirades about his wife and women in general are "sermons"? Why are random people WITHOUT ANY SPECIAL EDUCATION even allowed to start their own churches? It's just a breeding ground for cults, and the government does nothing to stop the spread of dangerous ideology as long as someone namedrops Jesus in the middle of their hateful rant... This man should've NEVER been allowed to become a preacher.
As someone raised in a different branch of Christianity, the stuff Americans allow to be passed as "Christian" is bewildering to me. In what way, shape or form this man's misogynistic tirades are "sermons"? Why are random people WITHOUT ANY SPECIAL EDUCATION even allowed to start their own churches? It's just a breeding ground for cults... This man should've never been allowed to become a preacher, NEVER.
How is it that his own patrons can’t see what a manipulating narcissist he is? This guy is really dangerous!
🐑 sadly
Bc they're just like him..
He posted revenge porn and admitted to it and they still didn’t do ANYTHING to him..this is so sad and scary to think people like this exist and have so much power.
I think it's telling that in the /walk away/ vid their priorities show.
She: "WALK. AWAY."
He: " This will be on facebook in a few hours"
She: "You'll be in jail in a few hours."
She is clearly worried about her safety while he wants attention and validation from "the public" by trying to make her look bad.
Men like this are why there's so many ex Christians. I hope Justice finds him.
Hey so. I have Bipolar 2. Obviously this is a case of domestic abuse, and mental health can range on severity. But Bipolar 2 exhibits hypomania and long term depression. When I experience hypomania, I feel "normal" and jolly before fluctuating back to depression. Hypomania literally means little mania. The mania that this guy preaches about is exhibited in Bipolar 1 not 2. It's a small detail but I feel like it shows a story that he's spun rather than her reality.
@@squidikiOh gods THANK YOU, fellow BP2er here. I almost typed out this very comment several times but was too frustrated to finish it every time. He did describe psychotic/manic behavior but that does NOT occur with BP2. He was lying through his teeth.
Also his comments on lithium are very weird to me, weight gain maybe but I've never heard of anyone slurring their speech due to it, and I'm on more lithium than either one of them (according to his claims).
Fellow BP2er and 3rd year student mental health nurse here. I absolutely agree that the psychosis and mania he appears to be trying to allege are much more like BP1, I have never seen a patient with BP2 exhibit symptoms like that, not to the extent he speaks about. However, I have worked with patients with schizophrenia who have become very unwell and psychotic, where they don’t recognise family etc, but they are never only on lithium if they have both BP and schizophrenia ; all of the symptoms when they become very unwell and need assistance are generally extremely noticeable but can be treated. I’m just not sure about his allegations, more people would notice when someone becomes so unwell, also, slurred speech can be an extrapyramidal side effect of atypical antipsychotics, but then he’s saying she wasn’t taking her medication so even that doesn’t make sense. I mean none of us could know for sure but there are just a lot of peculiar things purely surrounding his information on mental health. Then there is EVERYTHING else…..
Yah for real I know someone with bipolar 2 closely and their mania does noticeably effect impulse control and give them harmful intrusive thoughts they're in danger of acting on, but it wasn't an insurmountable task to put precautions in place once a diagnosis was made. (They also do have delusions and hallucinations while unmedicated but this is only andecdotal)
Hes reffering to schizophrenia when he talks about the "crazy stuff".
A shopping craze caused by a manic (even most psychiatrists simply call hypomania that) episode is something that could happen with bipolar 2 as well.
And she could have rapid cyling. We don't know.
The only thing I definitely doubt is her having hallucinations.
That would not go unnoticed by others.
@@maddievaris
Lithium can cause blurres vision, dizziness, confusion and slurred speech.
It's why you're not supposed to takd it while driving.
Everyones tolerance is different.
I for one couldn't walk straight for 2 weeks on a doses that was considered "low".
20 minutes in and I can hear from his sermon is: women are women and men are children
IMO JP may not have killed Mica himself, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t arrange her demise. It is said that the fisherman who “found” her items made a call to JP’s friend after her death. The police did a minor investigation immediately assuring the self exiting. Too many things have created unanswered questions. Her body was found too far away from the multiple shell casings. How did her body get so far away in a still body of water. Her father said there was bruising on her hands…so many discrepancies unanswered. There needs to be justice for Mica, and JP needs to answer for his actions.
That fisherman is suspect AF! First of all, who in the hell would pick up some random person's stuff that they spotted on the shore from their fishing boat, go through all of it, take it with them back to their vehicle, drive off with it, and come back later in a different vehicle with the stuff to give to the police?? he claims he left because he needed a lighter, but why did he come back in a different vehicle??
@@KaileyB616 also, hearing a gunshot in a non hunting area and not calling the police? maybe its bc im a woman, but if im in an area that is not for hunting and i hear a gunshot, i wouldnt investigate but i would immediately call 911 and try to get to safety
How convenient that jps friend was in the vicinity when Micah "offs " herself.....
And it's not just the shell casings her body was suspiciously far away from either. Her father said in an interview that her body was over 100 feet away from the actual firearm and also not anywhere near her purse either. So I agree it's super sketchy and more of and investigation should have been done. They owed her that much, to at least give her death a decent investigation, before making their assumptions based off that call.
JP telling Allison to “pray” when his mistress’s husband died was definitely a threat
Mr. Mango keep saying “He’s still talking” 😂😂😂 got me laughing so hard
I'm sorry, but as someone who was brought up Christian, this is very much how alot of pastors behave. I found out that my mother was harassed by her pastor and later discovered that he had SO MANY affairs and everyone within the church knew, yet they all ignored it.
All the “shows” he put on was just him trying to create a storyline/paper trial. He wanted everyone to think she was crazy so when he kills her (allegedly) he can say well I already told y’all she was off her meds and crazy etc. The whole adding her bf to the group chat while accusing her of all kinds of things was his way of creating a witness. He a serial cheater yet a pastor?!?!? Guilt tripping her with religion knowing she’s a devout Christian. Such a disgusting man. He did this idc what anybody say HE DID THIS!
100 percent he did it
We all know he did this. The ones who don't are probably his church brainwashed left over members. Because even the police know he did this and are helping him get away with murder.
@@chinaking918 I think it was his ex wife he added to the chat. Not a bf.
@@laurierice7687 bf as in Mica bestfriend.
He is just downright vile. It's disgusting to think that someone like that is allowed to be in a position of influence, or even allowed out in society at all.
Imagine staying with someone who literally won’t let you sleep. He is the definition of a narcissist
My ex partner would do this and then would wait until I fell asleep and then jump on me and attack me . I'm 5ft2 and around 100 pounds .
He was 6ft and he weighted 195 pounds and he boxed . This sometimes would go on for days with him attacking me until he was so out of breath he would collapse into the sofa. He would do this over days and days I was so exhausted and in such pain and so afraid of him I just did what he said .
I tried to escape a few times I jumped out the bedroom window onto the porch roof and ran through my neighbour hood he ran after me tackled me in the street and dragged me back into the house and people where watching and took their kids inside..
Another time he punched me repeatedly while driving at like 70 mph he nearly crashed into the motorway barrier.
He threw me out of a moving car and threw a massive suitcase on top of me and was kicking me back down into the ditch and ripping my clothes off the only reason he stopped is because a truck full of Irish Gypsy men stopped and threatened him .
I had to plan my escape because his dad would help track me down when I ran away. Eventually I got away from him because he went to prison on drugs charges but he still tries to stalk my social media and my families social media.we split up 12 years ago .
Police never helped me only asked why I didn't just leave..while I had broken ribs and clumps of hair missing my thighs were black from him pinching and punching my inner thighs while he was driving.
I now have a nice partner who my ex is afraid of . And I have a big Pitbull who loves me and protects me so I'm not afraid anymore but I still think if he ever has a breakdown I'm Gona need to take extra measures to protect myself. I've told all my friends if I ever go missing or anything happens to me that's suspicious..it was my ex and his father helped him. To be honest I think I have PTSD from it all because he did so many things to over the years that I couldn't even remember everything until I was away from him for a few years . But my comment was more to demonstrate that the reasons why people don't leave is because it's dangerous for them . He would threaten my little sister all the time and that scared me so much and I wanted to keep his violence away from my family and I was ashamed. All his friends and family thought he was a really nice and cool guy . Some men (very few) did see through him but he always distanced from those men, he was a coward. He would never try bully another man like he did to me
I'm not ashamed now and I talk about it because so many people go threw these things in silence and if I had of heard another women speaking about her violent partner and openly maybe I wouldn't of felt so ashamed and that I could of gotten more help to leave.
@@itsalwaysteatime3803 thank you for sharing with us tea, i do hope and pray you able to always stay safe both you and your family, i hope you know that your experiences and struggles are valid, and i agree with narcissistic has such disgusting dangerous way to always chained you up, even when its over.. sending so much love and hugs to your way, i hope you able to heal slowly by time
@@cherryuu24 thank you for your kind comment❤️ I'm in a good place now and able to talk about it , it took time. Hopefully Mica is at peace now ❤️
@@itsalwaysteatime3803 im really sorry, he is a horrible coward monster who is totally useless! so infuriating people like that exist and authorities dont help
They do that to wear you down, drain you in all ways, your strength, your identity to where they try to make it impossible to leave. They always want to keep you off balance which makes it easier to control a person. You know something is wrong and should or are trying to leave but the person is still trying their best to keep you as broken down and isolated as possible in the process. Then theres the shame and other complex emotions involved. You have to move mountains or have family and loved ones that will move mountains for you so that you can escape alive. Or at the very least, get out hopefully before at least physical ab*se begins. I've had an experience to where I was so ashamed and blamed myself for years. Couldn't even talk about it for fear of being ridiculed and not understood. They also tend to have so many freaking "friends" that would never believe it or at least have a small sense of the 'maybe he/she could' in the back of their mind but will be a ride or d'e for that person. Makes their smear campaigns easier with their flying monkeys. The one time I was involved with an ab'sive narcissist and there was also an age gap...he would not let me sleep if he was in a bad mood whether it was perceived to be my fault or not and would not stop the scary hysterics until he got s*x I didn't want to have even if I was barely awake from sleep deprivation. It wasn't just s*x if you know what I mean, but at the time I was too ashamed to admit to myself or anyone else what it was bc how could I let that happen to myself when I've heard so many other stories about those types of ab'sers, studied it and should know the signs. Its alot more going on than the "why didn't she just leave" that some ppl say willy nilly. It affects every aspect of you, and you're not completely that super strong willed "you" for some time. I found out that he was also cheating and taking adderall that was not prescribed to him in order to be able to stay up all night like that. I feel so bad for Mica bc she seems like she was so full of light and even in her darkest times still trying to shine and be free and he was an evil anchor....that's all monsters like that are- evil anchors. Always trying to dull, ab*se and not let her have any peace. She really did try and to me, it seems like the entire system as well as that looney bin church failed her. She made reports to the police (showed them proof on top of it) and the church and "community" knew what he was doing to her. Even if she pulled the trigger, he still has blood on his hands. He played the main part starting when she was only 15 years old.
The police failed her. She had so much digital evidence, was constantly being publicly harassed and abused, she was always calling the police, and they did nothing to help her. They deserve as much punishment as he does.
“She warned everyone that her ‘armed’ husband would shoot her, and then she was shot. Obviously suicide.”
Sometimes police’s conclusions REALLY sound like Madlibs.
As a Christian, I would run away from this man as fast as I could. He is a total self-glorifying bullsh** artist
@@mayc8674 totally 👍
Him telling Allison that his mistress's husband drowned seemed vaguely threatening to me. Idk
That's what I was thinking as well .... telling her to pray ?
I’m not religious but if Gods real and he actually has good morals, this man is going to one of the deepest parts of hell.
100%. Even if he didn’t murder her, the way he treated her was horrible and sick. I really don’t understand how he can be so loyal to God but still do horrible things like this. The deepest pit of hell definitely awaits him
The bible literally says “Not all who say “Lord, Lord” will go to heaven”. It’s easy to fake being a lover of God, but in the end he will show who the real ones are.
He was high on power. Imagine being in his position… He gets up on stage and dozens of people eat up whatever he says- every week. People praise him. It’s fame and power. Glorious to a narcissist.
Gaslighting and manipulation at its finest. He is so disgusting. He might not have physically pulled the trigger, innocent until proven guilty and all, but he definitely is psychologically responsible. His behavior is so gross and I really hope she gets justice because he needs to be stopped before he ruins anymore lives.
Pastors like this are crazy. Full of ego and using the words of God and Jesus for no good. Hypocrite
People use religion as a crutch; they think it’s a shortcut to being a moral person. There’s no such thing as “making the religion look bad” -- these kind of people ARE BAD people, preying on those who have been groomed or willfully brainwashed. Narcissists know where to find people who will give them power, no matter who you are or what you believe.
It's so hard to trust. I'm not religious but imagine there's a lot of trust put into a person like that that's leading your spirituality. And he was poisoning the congregation with toxicity
He is a NARCISSIST 💯 😢 Sooo Sad. He can’t take ACCOUNTABILITY for any of his actions, and gaslights her for HIS actions.
Exactly. The way he added her friend as an audience to the chat while he sends defamatory text. Making him sound like a victim when he is the aggressor.
@@Angel-nk4jm Yep. I believe it's called Triangulation, which is a tool narcissists love to use!
One of first times where that word applies. Yes, he is
they always do that
Many including myself believe he had a hand in her death. May not be physical but psychologically, he is insufferable and pushed her to her edge.
No shit? He obviosly abused her in every way possible for years and years before taking her life!
I don't think it makes any sense to even entertain the idea she killed herself when she had a fanny pack with $500, cards, car keys, Bible etc. I don't see any explanation other than she tried to escape, he caught her, chased her down and shot her. She probably dropped or threw the pack while running in the hopes it would be a loud hint but it wasn't enough. I mean, she had even said if she was shot in the head it was JP, not her. I don't know how investigators could be confident in her death being her own choice. The money? The location? No note?? Constant threats whenever she tried to escape him? It's ridiculous.
I lived in this city for 8 years and my mom still lives there, actually only about 15 minutes from the area where the church is located. I could not believe this story when I first heard about it, and I'm SO GLAD one of my favorite true crime podcasts/channels is covering it, as you all always discuss the issues so deeply. You did an incredible job on this horrifically tragic story.
“Mica’s mom has been married several times!”
Ummm…okay…did Mica’s mom marry one person, start a family, then 16 years later, at age 29, begin grooming the 15 year old babysitter, who later married one of her closest friends? Did she preside over their wedding, but soon after manipulate her into having a full-on sexual relationship? Did her inappropriate behavior blow up 2 marriages & alienate her young children? Did Mica’s mom cheat on everyone she’s been married to? Did she cheat with underage parishioners? Did she hire sex workers? Has Mica’s mom ever been convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon?
No? Ok then……it’s not the same thing, right JP?
I live right near here and it was only talked at all by the locals, and I can 100% say he killed her. He skimmed all the money and pinned it on her, than killed her, people I know who went to the church say she’s been uneasy around him during services for a long time
That man is extremely dangerous. He has the church for his play ground. He has all of the dedicated congregation in the palm of his hands. He sounds like a master manipulater, and a narcissist. A narcissist when feeling like there loosing control of you, will try to control how people view you.
One thing Steph didn't mention was where Mica's body was found. The part of the park where she passed was owned by someone JP knows. I'm pretty sure it was his attorney, but I might be remembering wrong.
Wow, you give so much more detail compared to the emails I got from Christian websites that painted a different picture and somewhat ambiguous. They left out so many details. Thank you for the thorough coverage and the full truth!
Hey you guys know about the miryang case in korea. It happened in 2004. Three female were gang raped by 44 middle schoolers in a span over one year. No one went to jail. The parents of the rpist blame the gurls. And college didn’t want to accept victims of rpe. But now it is a big thing in korea because a youtuber exposed the predators. Stephanie i hope you cover this case again please bring attention to it
Those poor girls. I'm glad they are outing the perpetrators. I hope she covers this.
I think she already did
She did it on spotify. Episode 173.
She's covered this
Oh wow. That’s crazy. And so sad