I hired the lift back 508 recently for a week. I was really impressed, it was a lovely car to punt around SE QLD. The engine had an revy vibe to it and I quiet liked the pointy steering on country roads. I was particularly keen to try out the steering wheel due to the mixed press reviews. I’ve got to say I’m a compete convert. Having the steering wheel a little lower and the dash instruments positioned higher worked rather well. Another area I think it did well was the autonomous driving modes. On the highway the car literally drove itself. I kept in lane around corners and slowed and sped up again when following traffic. Things I didn’t like, rear seats weren’t the best with tapered headline. You’d feel a bit hemmed in. But I think the wagon version fixes that. The other issue is the price. It’s definitely cheaper than the established luxury brands but $70k plus still feels like a lot of money. It would be interesting to see a comparison against an A4 or Volvo.
Comparable with the V60 wagon from Volvo according to car journalists! I’ve owned 3 volvo wagons, they are exceptional cars. I now own Peugeot 508 sport wagon, and it’s very different but really like it!
Just to remind people that this car used to compete with mazda 6 at 50k price range three years ago, now mazda 6 still cost around the same price. Peugeot is dreaming
I don't know about sales, but Mazda is an established brand here in AU and does better. Peugeot has a long way to go! Should have priced it better tbh. Also, Mazda is well overdue for a new generation. Whether or not they make one idk.
I am a big Peugeot fan and can attest to their quality. Current car is a T9 308 with 1.6THP engine, built solid, never had any issues and drives like a dream! Quality cars and far superior to any of the Asian options, but the pricing is getting out of hand in this country.
I was seriously considering one before COVID lockdown (until they announced their new 308 wagon), they were around the $60k mark drive away with options. But the Mazda 6 wagon still exists (less than $60k with 2.5L turbo and options) so this has no chance for over $70k (N.S.W. drive away prices). If you're going to spend $70k, you'd get a VW Passat R Line, 206 kW with AWD. Even the regular Passat is $65k. Peugeot set itself to fail with their pricing and that is sad, I want them to succeed here. $55k for 308 wagon, Golf wagon is $44k. 308 hybrid will be $75k (their Aus prices same as NZ), Corolla hybrid is $42k. Why does Peugeot think they're $10k better than the competition?
I bought this car, same colour, in March 2020. I don’t see any issue with the screen and it’s “piano keys”. Very easy to use. The steering wheel is great, best gear shifter ever, and the overall interior design is fantastic and different. The piano black on the console is a pain but am planning to get it recovered at some time in the near future. I’ve had many comments about it since I got it, like “is that a Peugeot” and “nice car”. I bought this car as I wanted a wagon. I didn’t want anything sporty, just a car to get around for me and my dogs. It was either this or a boring old Mazda. I do a lot of freeway driving and I get around 6.7km per 100L. It’s now done 107000 KM and I haven’t had any problems. Did a bit of country driving on some fairly rough roads in the southwest and it’s a very good “tourer”. If you’re looking a for a wagon, you should look at this option.
If you don't know why a front wheel drive car has the form of a transmission tunnel you're opinions start to worry me. So let me clarify if you don't appreciate this... One way or another modern cars have to have a certain stiffness without adding too much weight or engineering with otheplaces where interferes with other stuff. The form of a centre tunnel is a very significant chassis designers tool to add this stiffness without rediculous compromise of manufacturing and cost... go ask any maufucaturer. Notice how big modern car tunnels are compared with those of 30 years ago.
I'm sounding like an old vinyl record I know..I own 2 Peugeot's We should get the new 208, the sexiest new Peugeot, that's not me just saying that, its a world wide fact right now. If the 208 was priced competitively, it would sell like hot-cakes here. This 70k+ 308 Sport Wagon (and Hatch), and 508, will not sell like hot-cakes here..They will struggle to sell here.
I really want this to be my next car. Our family love wagons and hate SUVs. The looks of this car are fantastic, but I sure hope what was reviewed is not accurate otherwise I’ll have to shop elsewhere. You’re not wrong when you say all too many wagons don’t get released here, it’s so disappointing. The lack of wireless connectivity is terrible and even worse the fact they haven’t added it in the last few years with an update - but what car company actually gets infotainment right? They seem to produce nothing but laggy systems that don’t work properly from reports I’ve read. Mine have always been average at best. Most importantly though, I really hope this car is better to drive than described like I thought it was. Our Renault Megane GT wagon has been excellent.
Tom baker in his review of this car , loved it or that’s how it came across. I found this latest review confusing! Some points were just wrong, vague steering, harsh suspension in sport mode, body roll?? I wouldn’t agree with those comments, but he’s the expert not me🤷♂️ I own a 21 model and find it really good. Having had 3 Volvo v60 s I wanted something different, and this is..:)
Compared to the Skoda, it's the same version and price, but the Skoda is much better. Also more back seat space, more luxury, temperature control at the back seats etc. in the Skoda and it drives even better. We've experienced both cars for a longer time and are the happiest with the Skoda.
Wagons are so much sexier than your typical SUV box and cart just as much stuff. Cost aside the Audi RS6 is the chef's kiss, as well as the AMG E63S. Overall most companies in this market segment nail their designs; even the beaver M3 imo
I've been driving this 508sw as a hybrid for 2 years now. The hybrid hasn't got a spare tire due to the batteries for the hybrid powertrain. I really like driving the car. But the car is much to small. I'm 1m75 and fit very nicely behind the steering wheel. But a person over 1m90 will have very much difficulties enterin g the car. The roofline is just TOO low. Also the booth (trunk) is just too small. It doesn't any longer swallow a bike. For going on a holiday with 2 kids on the back seat the trunk is just too small. It won't swallow the luggage for the 4 occupants. The backseat doesn't even allow 3 kids-seats to be installed. It only has 2 Isofix-systems, not 3. The pockets in the door don't even fit a water bottle and are filled very rapidly with the stuff that are standard in your car. I like driving the car, but will NEVER EVER buy this car a second time. For a stationwagon it's just too small.
This is my favorite car. Well-- if someone gave me a Peugeot wagon I would drive that. If I had to buy with my own money, I would buy the 208. It's lighter, looks as great, and is more fun as well while a third the price!!! But the 308 engines suck. And so does the price.$50,000? My Volvo V50 I got used for $1700!!!!!! Is it worth 25 times the price???? Heck no. But it's still my favorite car. The 208 is a close second. Peugeot just rocks. I wish we had them in the USA. Maybe Alfa will bring over a hatch soon. The 208 is a bargain at 16k. These Peugeot cars outdo even Volvo wagons and hatchbacks. They need to fix the steering wheel though.
Good report but underwhelmed by the car at its pricepoint. A question nobody answers other than to say that it was on the script. Why don't you say Android Auto and Apple Carplay in that order? My reasons: Android has circa 60% of smartphone market and also, alphabetically, Android comes before Apple too. Trivial but annoying unless Apple sponsor you. This car is close to Tesla Model Y money, I would buy the Y because it is better packaged, faster and cheaper to fuel even at supercharger rates.
Apple doesn’t sponsor anybody. I imagine the answer is you probably say what you use first, and most of our journalists use iPhones. Also, when we talk to car companies, they tell us that even though Android has higher market share generally speaking, iPhones have a higher market share of people buying new cars.
@@chasingcars I personally have driven this and have to disagree. Id rather stick with my cheaper WRX wagon and its garbage CVT just for it AWD and 40 extra killer wasps. Thats just me though
Not too sure about this new reviewer but he comes across as a bit too pushy and shouty and his review of the Peugeot is at odds with just about every other I have read.
Tom here. That’s a bit confusing - the general sentiment seems pretty in line with the two 508 reviews I’ve conducted myself. Between journalists who know their stuff here and abroad, most people like this car quite a lot, noting it’s probably a little expensive.
@@chasingcars Hi Tom, I have just had another look at your 2021 review of the 508 and it is an objective, knowledgeable report but I think that Andrew comes across as just not liking the car. How many Australians automatically say they dislike any new French car that comes onto the market? Most of them would never venture into a showroom with French cars let alone drive one. I have owned many French cars over the years, although not since 2000, and enjoyed my time with them and I recently drove the new 308 which is a great car but I was critical of the meagre power from the 3 cylinder motor. I wish Peugeot would give us some sporty models with upgraded motors and not have this heavy emphasis on economy but I guess it's a European thing.
The Mk4 2022+ Skoda Octavia VRS wagon is better than this in every sense. Even with the most expensive variant with the Premium pack and sunroof it comes in at like $63000 drive away so still cheaper than this Peugeot. Faster, bigger boot, better tech, and I would bet a better drive too
@@ln5747 ive owned two Skoda’s both with DSG’s. One with DQ250 the other with a DQ380. Both never had a single issue over the 9 years I had it. They are known to be reliable boxes as long as you service them regularly.
@@b.p.r. not even a comparison between those 2, Corolla all the way. Those basic MG3s are essentially running a 90s driveline, basic 4 cylinder NA with an ancient 4 speed…
Not necessarily. Volvo v60 is almost impossible to get now here in Australia. Why they made that choice is ridiculous as it’s an amazing car and the most comfortable. I’ve had 3 in the past. I now have the 508 sport wagon which is really different and quirky.
What elements do you find over-styled? only thing I can note on the exterior is the two different patterns of black plastic on the bonnet, there are very few design creases or design flourishes other than that. edit: would note the silly steering wheel and strange centre console design as well.
I hired the lift back 508 recently for a week. I was really impressed, it was a lovely car to punt around SE QLD. The engine had an revy vibe to it and I quiet liked the pointy steering on country roads. I was particularly keen to try out the steering wheel due to the mixed press reviews. I’ve got to say I’m a compete convert. Having the steering wheel a little lower and the dash instruments positioned higher worked rather well. Another area I think it did well was the autonomous driving modes. On the highway the car literally drove itself. I kept in lane around corners and slowed and sped up again when following traffic. Things I didn’t like, rear seats weren’t the best with tapered headline. You’d feel a bit hemmed in. But I think the wagon version fixes that. The other issue is the price. It’s definitely cheaper than the established luxury brands but $70k plus still feels like a lot of money. It would be interesting to see a comparison against an A4 or Volvo.
Hired the 508 lift back as well and was really impressed, but yeah like you said it is on the pricy end. Still much better than I expected.
Comparable with the V60 wagon from Volvo according to car journalists!
I’ve owned 3 volvo wagons, they are exceptional cars. I now own Peugeot 508 sport wagon, and it’s very different but really like it!
I own 508 2.0 180hp LB ... I love the small sporty stearing wheel, I got it for good price. Only thing ... awd would be nice❤
Just to remind people that this car used to compete with mazda 6 at 50k price range three years ago, now mazda 6 still cost around the same price. Peugeot is dreaming
And mazda is so much more reliable than this gas factory!
@@alexh1311a g-shock is more reliable than a rolex
Peugeot doesn’t see itself as a Mazda competitor. Whether that is correct is up to you
I don't know about sales, but Mazda is an established brand here in AU and does better. Peugeot has a long way to go! Should have priced it better tbh. Also, Mazda is well overdue for a new generation. Whether or not they make one idk.
@@chasingcars mazda 6 hasn't changed much in three years, neither has 508. So peugeot need to convince people why 508 worth the premium now
I am a big Peugeot fan and can attest to their quality. Current car is a T9 308 with 1.6THP engine, built solid, never had any issues and drives like a dream! Quality cars and far superior to any of the Asian options, but the pricing is getting out of hand in this country.
I was seriously considering one before COVID lockdown (until they announced their new 308 wagon), they were around the $60k mark drive away with options. But the Mazda 6 wagon still exists (less than $60k with 2.5L turbo and options) so this has no chance for over $70k (N.S.W. drive away prices). If you're going to spend $70k, you'd get a VW Passat R Line, 206 kW with AWD. Even the regular Passat is $65k.
Peugeot set itself to fail with their pricing and that is sad, I want them to succeed here. $55k for 308 wagon, Golf wagon is $44k. 308 hybrid will be $75k (their Aus prices same as NZ), Corolla hybrid is $42k. Why does Peugeot think they're $10k better than the competition?
Same, I was thinking about it at $60k which I thought was still a bit much. I could get a WRX wagon for $55k. But at $70K its not even an option
I bought this car, same colour, in March 2020. I don’t see any issue with the screen and it’s “piano keys”. Very easy to use. The steering wheel is great, best gear shifter ever, and the overall interior design is fantastic and different. The piano black on the console is a pain but am planning to get it recovered at some time in the near future.
I’ve had many comments about it since I got it, like “is that a Peugeot” and “nice car”. I bought this car as I wanted a wagon. I didn’t want anything sporty, just a car to get around for me and my dogs. It was either this or a boring old Mazda. I do a lot of freeway driving and I get around 6.7km per 100L. It’s now done 107000 KM and I haven’t had any problems. Did a bit of country driving on some fairly rough roads in the southwest and it’s a very good “tourer”.
If you’re looking a for a wagon, you should look at this option.
This video helped me purchase the exact same car but for only $46700 at 22 months old with 6500 km on the clock ,
It’s a fantastic car !
What a gorgeous thing! If only Peugeots were a little bit cheaper here.
If you don't know why a front wheel drive car has the form of a transmission tunnel you're opinions start to worry me. So let me clarify if you don't appreciate this... One way or another modern cars have to have a certain stiffness without adding too much weight or engineering with otheplaces where interferes with other stuff. The form of a centre tunnel is a very significant chassis designers tool to add this stiffness without rediculous compromise of manufacturing and cost... go ask any maufucaturer. Notice how big modern car tunnels are compared with those of 30 years ago.
I'm sounding like an old vinyl record I know..I own 2 Peugeot's
We should get the new 208, the sexiest new Peugeot, that's not me just saying that, its a world wide fact right now. If the 208 was priced competitively, it would sell like hot-cakes here.
This 70k+ 308 Sport Wagon (and Hatch), and 508, will not sell like hot-cakes here..They will struggle to sell here.
I really want this to be my next car. Our family love wagons and hate SUVs. The looks of this car are fantastic, but I sure hope what was reviewed is not accurate otherwise I’ll have to shop elsewhere. You’re not wrong when you say all too many wagons don’t get released here, it’s so disappointing. The lack of wireless connectivity is terrible and even worse the fact they haven’t added it in the last few years with an update - but what car company actually gets infotainment right? They seem to produce nothing but laggy systems that don’t work properly from reports I’ve read. Mine have always been average at best. Most importantly though, I really hope this car is better to drive than described like I thought it was. Our Renault Megane GT wagon has been excellent.
Tom baker in his review of this car , loved it or that’s how it came across.
I found this latest review confusing!
Some points were just wrong, vague steering, harsh suspension in sport mode, body roll??
I wouldn’t agree with those comments, but he’s the expert not me🤷♂️
I own a 21 model and find it really good.
Having had 3 Volvo v60 s I wanted something different, and this is..:)
Beautiful looking car, but for the $$ it should have much more power. Back seat room and the lack of duel climate support is disappointing
Compared to the Skoda, it's the same version and price, but the Skoda is much better. Also more back seat space, more luxury, temperature control at the back seats etc. in the Skoda and it drives even better. We've experienced both cars for a longer time and are the happiest with the Skoda.
Wagons are so much sexier than your typical SUV box and cart just as much stuff. Cost aside the Audi RS6 is the chef's kiss, as well as the AMG E63S. Overall most companies in this market segment nail their designs; even the beaver M3 imo
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I have seen a lot of reviews about this car but yours is so negative
I've been driving this 508sw as a hybrid for 2 years now. The hybrid hasn't got a spare tire due to the batteries for the hybrid powertrain.
I really like driving the car. But the car is much to small. I'm 1m75 and fit very nicely behind the steering wheel. But a person over 1m90 will have very much difficulties enterin g the car.
The roofline is just TOO low.
Also the booth (trunk) is just too small. It doesn't any longer swallow a bike.
For going on a holiday with 2 kids on the back seat the trunk is just too small. It won't swallow the luggage for the 4 occupants.
The backseat doesn't even allow 3 kids-seats to be installed. It only has 2 Isofix-systems, not 3.
The pockets in the door don't even fit a water bottle and are filled very rapidly with the stuff that are standard in your car.
I like driving the car, but will NEVER EVER buy this car a second time. For a stationwagon it's just too small.
This is my favorite car. Well-- if someone gave me a Peugeot wagon I would drive that. If I had to buy with my own money, I would buy the 208. It's lighter, looks as great, and is more fun as well while a third the price!!! But the 308 engines suck. And so does the price.$50,000? My Volvo V50 I got used for $1700!!!!!! Is it worth 25 times the price???? Heck no. But it's still my favorite car. The 208 is a close second. Peugeot just rocks. I wish we had them in the USA. Maybe Alfa will bring over a hatch soon. The 208 is a bargain at 16k. These Peugeot cars outdo even Volvo wagons and hatchbacks. They need to fix the steering wheel though.
The seats patterns look like Star Wars starfighter
Good report but underwhelmed by the car at its pricepoint. A question nobody answers other than to say that it was on the script. Why don't you say Android Auto and Apple Carplay in that order?
My reasons: Android has circa 60% of smartphone market and also, alphabetically, Android comes before Apple too.
Trivial but annoying unless Apple sponsor you.
This car is close to Tesla Model Y money, I would buy the Y because it is better packaged, faster and cheaper to fuel even at supercharger rates.
Apple doesn’t sponsor anybody. I imagine the answer is you probably say what you use first, and most of our journalists use iPhones. Also, when we talk to car companies, they tell us that even though Android has higher market share generally speaking, iPhones have a higher market share of people buying new cars.
I like it!
Me too
Not a single reference to the frameless doors! Unbelievable.
😂
Please being back the old team
This isn’t the Royal family, people can and do move jobs, and that’s okay - our new hires are superb road testers -Tom
This is a great car, but....Too Expensive, Underpowered, FWD. Hard Pass
165kW to move 1395kg is more than enough. It’s quite nippy
@@chasingcars I personally have driven this and have to disagree. Id rather stick with my cheaper WRX wagon and its garbage CVT just for it AWD and 40 extra killer wasps. Thats just me though
This trend of SUVs and UTEs should stop at some point!
Maybe it will!
Pretty good value! LOL
the bmw 5 series wagon is the sexiest
It’s nice. Sadly no longer sold to civilians in Australia (but still to police)
@@chasingcars the 2021+ 530d xdrive is actually a 540d due to the 48v system and its fast, very fast
Good looking, but fwd and too slow for the money...NEXT!
Not too sure about this new reviewer but he comes across as a bit too pushy and shouty and his review of the Peugeot is at odds with just about every other I have read.
Tom here. That’s a bit confusing - the general sentiment seems pretty in line with the two 508 reviews I’ve conducted myself. Between journalists who know their stuff here and abroad, most people like this car quite a lot, noting it’s probably a little expensive.
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Peugeot 508 SW 2020 review
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@@chasingcars Hi Tom, I have just had another look at your 2021 review of the 508 and it is an objective, knowledgeable report but I think that Andrew comes across as just not liking the car. How many Australians automatically say they dislike any new French car that comes onto the market? Most of them would never venture into a showroom with French cars let alone drive one. I have owned many French cars over the years, although not since 2000, and enjoyed my time with them and I recently drove the new 308 which is a great car but I was critical of the meagre power from the 3 cylinder motor. I wish Peugeot would give us some sporty models with upgraded motors and not have this heavy emphasis on economy but I guess it's a European thing.
French 🙄
They better have fixed the camera. Worse camera on a car.
They haven’t
The Mk4 2022+ Skoda Octavia VRS wagon is better than this in every sense. Even with the most expensive variant with the Premium pack and sunroof it comes in at like $63000 drive away so still cheaper than this Peugeot. Faster, bigger boot, better tech, and I would bet a better drive too
And the 2022 Chasing Cars car of the year.
A torque converter box in the 508 is superior to a dual clutch in the Skoda.
@@ln5747 how so?
@@Dave-gg6vl reliability for a start.
@@ln5747 ive owned two Skoda’s both with DSG’s. One with DQ250 the other with a DQ380. Both never had a single issue over the 9 years I had it. They are known to be reliable boxes as long as you service them regularly.
I will like and subscribe your next video if you refrain saying ' in terms of "
Maybe
Can you review the MG3 please 🙏
We’ll make it happen. Not aware of MG ever voluntarily lending an MG3 out to a car review channel, but we can find them in other ways
@@chasingcars because I’m tossing up between MG3 or the new Toyota Corolla SX 2023
My gut tells me that if you can afford the Corolla to get that - they’re very good cars
@@chasingcars and what about the 10 speed cvt
@@b.p.r. not even a comparison between those 2, Corolla all the way.
Those basic MG3s are essentially running a 90s driveline, basic 4 cylinder NA with an ancient 4 speed…
Volvo V60 - much nicer
Not necessarily.
Volvo v60 is almost impossible to get now here in Australia. Why they made that choice is ridiculous as it’s an amazing car and the most comfortable. I’ve had 3 in the past.
I now have the 508 sport wagon which is really different and quirky.
Peugeot no no no,looks like the last Commodore
The proportions are much tighter than the ZB wagon
I can’t be the only one that finds peugeots to be over styled. Sometimes less is more. Same story with the interior and that god awful steering wheel
What elements do you find over-styled? only thing I can note on the exterior is the two different patterns of black plastic on the bonnet, there are very few design creases or design flourishes other than that. edit: would note the silly steering wheel and strange centre console design as well.
Well, styling and design are subjective
Toyotas are over styled. Peugeot is fine.
@@Clove_Parma I’m not a fan of the massive vertical DRLs. Looks tacky