Childhood Trauma, Psychedelics & EMDR | Dr Bessel van der Kolk
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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Bessel van der Kolk is a one of the world’s foremost experts on traumatic stress - his global bestseller The Body Keeps The Score showed us that the terror and isolation at the core of trauma literally reshape both brain and body, and demonstrated a new approach to recovery, moving away from standard talking and drug therapies to heal mind, brain and body.
In this exclusive conversation with psychotherapist and author of The Invisible Lion, Benjamin Fry, Bessel fuses insights from the cutting-edge of neuroscience with the weight of decades of experience as an active therapist, and discusses how both adults and children can reclaim ownership of their bodies and their lives.
In PART 2 of his How To Academy event, Bessel and Benjamin discuss CBT, LSD and EMDR, yoga and coping mechanisms, how every child has the birthright to be adored and how the body keeps the score.
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Electro-magnetic dance resonance? Wtf?
Children need to be taught from a young age to be allowed to feel their feelings and sensations and be allowed to be themselves and taught to connect to their boundaries and know how to express this.
I totally agree!
You need to read the previous comments to the first time you said this just above, which challenge the simplicity of which you stay. What Bessel Vanderkolk articulates so succinctly at around 10 minutes and 45 seconds, is profound, and the ramifications of whether that is present or if that is not is also articulated in a clear articulate and absolutely proven through neuroscience to be absolutely the case. The types of formations you’re talking about are based on very premature and simplistic notions of child development that or right out of the 1960s and 70s and 80s. And they do not reflect the neuroscience which is gone way beyond those stages. And frankly most of those things are just so dismissive which is clearly your intent, that really needs to be examined
Yes but the parents aren't able to.
Agree....but my mom ...and her mother (my grandmother) should never have had a child. They really had issues. Always yelling...s teaming, fighting...I remember running upstairs to my room and covering my ears with a pillow. So I couldn’t hear them.
There was a lot of trauma and yelling during my life....it’s amazing that I can feel exactly what I felt when I was a 2 1/2 yr old baby. I remember like yesterday. I had two children...married a schizophrenic (had no idea.....his family never told me the truth). After I had my second baby girl, he stopped his meds, started drinking, doing drugs...it was surreal. That went on for 2 years. Tried to help him. Never made a difference. I finally just go rid of this emotionally bizarre man. His children didn’t understand what was wrong with him.
Was on my own for several years........raising my girls...working.....never remarried. No energy for any drama. When I wasn’t working, I was with my girls. My story keeps getting g more trauma in it...as I age. There’s no escaping it, for me. I don’t get why I’m still here. I don’t drink. Don’t do drugs. Don’t own weapons.
Helped raise all 5 of my grandkids too.; crazy story one would find hard to believe. Not sure why I became so suicidal the last 2/3 months. So weird....but maybe not weird. I was caring for everyone.....working....exhausted....my mom passed when my youngest daughter had her 2nd son. I was working and at hospital a lot around that time. Only time I missed one of my 5 grandkids being born.
I’m rambling. There’s just so much. My dad suddenly passed when I was 17 yrs old...while I was working after school, junior year). Phone call. I’m an only child. My dad was off work and dropped me off. He was supposed to pick me up 3 hrs later. My neighbor simply said ‘I think your dad is dying’. No warning....I threw the phone across the office. My boss was asking me what was wrong...but I could not speak. Vocal cords wouldn’t work. My boss picked up phone .....then drove me home.
So much confusion...heartache....sobbing...my Stern mother fell totally apart. I tried being strong for her. This woman who never seemed to have time for me...my questions... but I went to school,still worked 2/3 days during week, after school. Then went home to care for my mom. She was suicidal...fainting...crying all the time. I cried mostly alone by myself away from everyone.
There’s so much more. Bits and pieces of childhood moments are popping back into my head. My mother....seemed always mad...but liked to cook and clean. I think she hugged me...or maybe not. I don’t think my grandmother ever hugged me or kissed me. Businesswoman...owned a few bars when I was between 1 and 7 yrs old I think.
Rambling. Just trying to figure out why I’m still here, lots of health issues,fatigue, pain, nerve damage, depression off and on. The fatigue is severe. I’d like to lay down and sleep for about 6 months....and I’d still be tired. And my horrendous spine issues would be painful.
There’s no answers. But thank you for these informative videos. 2 drs told me I had ptsd......but it didn’t make sense.i couldn’t afford them. On a limited income. I’d rather find someone to talk to. By phone. I don’t go any more than 3/4 miles from my little home.
I only have Medicare. Long story...but I had to help my grandkids,so I couldn’t afford the secondary insurance.
Life’s been like climbing Mount Everest to try to reach the summit. Knowing I’m not gonna make it....dealing with all sorts of unpredictable chaos and unpredictable life. I think I took the road less traveled. I love my cats. Grandkids all grown up now...busy. Never got any help or any money back from their father. I don’t remember if he thanked me. That’s another sad story. But I’m always helping and now I’m trying to figure out how I’m going to pay my bills or go to more drs, if need be. Scary when you get old and live alone.
But...I’m never lonely. Like my quiet and solitude...... and kitties (2 inside)and I’ve been feeding 13 feral outside cats for 9 yrs. all tnrd.
They seem to all get along. I have huuuuuuuge insulated warm cat shelters in my tiny back yard area.
Well, I’ve rambled enough. And yet there’s so much more. I’m tired. I’m glad someone told me about THE BODY KEEPS SCORE. I have the kindle book. Just started reading a few chapters.
Thank you for these informative videos. ❤️👏🏻💫
@@sandella11 hi, how long did it take you to type this reply?
This is absolutely spot on. I’m an adult healing my own childhood trauma with yoga & meditation 2x per day. It calms my dysregulated nervous system that started in childhood. It has changed my life.
What is chronically overactive stress response?
I took the Golden Teacher mushroom. There was a little bit of discomfort in my stomach. There were so many traumas in my childhood, but the mushroom singled one out that must have traumatized me the most, asked me what I wanted to do with it. And, I told the mushroom to summon the guilty and let them(the mushrooms and other entities that are there) deal with it or with the culprit. (I saw the guilty party being summoned in font a depiction of me and my sibling as little children at the time of that particular offense. )
It took seconds. The healing, that is. I no longer think about my trauma or what happened to me as a child. Which was horrific. The part in my brain that dwelled daily in that shit is gone. I no longer go to bed hoping and wishing I will die in my sleep or wish I never existed.
Yoga, meditation, etc is hard and strenuous and may take a long time. The mushroom is the magic cure. It works instantly.
Way to go Kim! EMDR is exceptional and can be added to your journey as a potential modality.
You should try liver and gallbladder flushing as we hold so much trauma in these organ systems. Also Ayahuasca is very healing as well. Wishing you the very best!
@@danielapollus9153 how much did you take?
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself
This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.
@@georgewilliams1062 [_James_tray]
Got psychs
@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it IG?
@@georgewilliams1062 Yes
PTSD was only diagnosed as an illness when men returned from war. Trauma has been around for generation after generation and we pass it on but has gone unrecognised. As women, we know what this is, but we haven't had the tools. Thank you for the work you do to bring this out and make it accessible.
@@PinkyPuff69 PTSD can happen from a number of things besides war, I don’t think it started only after war vets were coming back, I think it was going on long before that due to other things but only was defined after men came back from war as OP was saying.
Thanks for speaking up here!!! You're sooo right about that!! Keep saying it. 🧡💜💙❤️👍👍👍
Just to add here, trauma is also multigenerational and passed through epigenetics.
Almost each generation of women has experienced traumas: war rapes, marital rapes. Any woman who has been forced into arranged marriage…
Many people struggle through life not even knowing they have cptsd .
This show needs more views. This interview goes to the core of the subject. People must see it. Thanks!
People mainly want to avoid this subject like plague for 2 reason many people don't want to admit they are traumatized, and worse still face the personal responsibility of most likely either facilitating someone becoming traumatized or as is often the case stood by and watched it happen and those people are majority the guilt and shame associated with coming to terms with matters like discused in this video would be far to much to bare so they will carrying with novelty and humor so to continue feeling perfect and good. And avoid this like the plague and even if faced with they often simply deny any of it as being reality
@@ThomasDoubting5 I agree. The healthy human being is as rare as a unicorn.
Well, there may be a lot of people like me who cannot hear the dialog at all, and shut it down.
But one must ask the question "why were we so blind to these things? incest,domestic abuse,rape..and all the other traumas or conditions which cause trauma?"
This is the questions now we also need to ask,why the blind spots ?
I mean even with something like war trauma,there is still a reluctance or inadequate response to sending people off to war and expecting them to somehow not be touched by it or cope with it like it is a normal thing"and if you don't there is somehow something wrong with you or you are weak.
Why have there been and continue to be denial within the churches and other institutions for instance around child abuse for instance?
Why is there still such a reluctance to listen to women (and men) when they say they have been raped or sexually assaulted and are often not believed or the burden of proof is against them.
So many of our institutions and social structures seem designed to traumatise us rather than help us grow and develop into being full conscious human beings.
Being unconscious is the norm in many ways.Becoming conscious and healing trauma or hidden wounds is sometimes the most revolutionary act we can do as then we see more clearly the dysfunctions around us and the lies as well.We are wiser to the tricks and traps and corruptions that surround us,we need to pay attention and listen to our guts and that first response that says "this feels dodgy.." it doesn't matter how powerful or educated or popular someone maybe because often the people who are last to be trusted will hide behind these facades.
I believe maybe to do with the masculine dominated society that had taught masculinated techniques and actions on life and school etc also its because from studying trauma for many years its mostly women who suffer from the freeze shutdown and men who suffer more from sympathetic activation and overpowering and dominating others, this needs to be addressed
Generational
I took my father's belt as a kid.......like most men my age @ 65
If that happened today.....he'd have been arrested for child abuse.....and child services would step in.
Paradigm shift.
Freudians have a huge responsibility for pushing off the recognition of trauma as central to psychological distress for an additional century. Because Sigmund was too cowardly to insist on his early discovery that neurosis is frequently linked to childhood sexual assault. This was further compounded by the mainstream psychiatric profession who wanted to pretend that all mental health issues are dysfunctions of "brain chemicals" since they want to pretend they are medical scientists on par with Internal Medicine or Endocrinologist MDs when they simply are not because they have no empirically verifiable theory of how the human psyche is formed and deformed.
Trauma is a feature of humanity. To expect its nonexistence is idealistic. Can we name a time in human history when there was less trauma than there is today? I can't. I am grateful we are making such incredible progress in learning to educate ourselves about it and heal ourselves in order to break the cycle further and ultimately increase our ability for enlightenment before we as virus to the planet cause it to cure itself of us.
Yes it seems impossible to avoid and it’s disheartening
I’m finally starting to understand things better because of Dr Bessel..Pure heart of gold that man has…
I remember, in the 1970s, when we dropped acid, we were always sure to have at least two trusted people who watched us, kept us safe...it was just common knowledge that it should always be done that way...
I wish I had people I could do that with
You were very fortunate. I mostly did it by myself or with another who also dropped. We kinda thought-what could go wrong?-and then we found out!
What's "dropping acid"?
Ignore. Just googled. 😬
Best trips are alone. 😎😉
Acupuncture, massage therapy, roller skating, and yoga works for me to help w/ reducing stress and unlocking old feelings. I am way too nervous for psychedelics so I can not go that route with that mindset lol.
Acupuncture worked for you?
@@robbieanderson227 yes it really did!
@@jennifercoolidgeislife6760 nice, I must try it.. thanks
EMDR does more than reduce the symptoms, it deletes it from the brain.
Don’t go anywhere or way that doesn’t feel right for you! Well done ❤
This has me thinking differently about having been a dancer and why it felt as vital to me as air. It gave me a way to tap into my brain and body and get that feeling of safety and community that was lacking elsewhere in my life. Also helps put into context the feedback loops between my mental and physical health.
Wow! Did not expect Dr. Bessel van der Kolk to dig into psychedelics this much. It hardly came up in his book. This part of the interview caught me by surprise. Not a panacea by any means but it has promising applications for trauma, healing, etc. Thank you sir!
I wish he could add this to his book.
Psycilocibin changed my life
Finally, someone who sees. One size does not fit all.
People always reach out to me because I invite them to be open about their childhood trauma by me being open to sharing my personal childhood traumas. To me that is a very important topic and I noticed how most conversations (even within close friends) are very superficial, which is fine if they are not ready to share.
i am the same,ppl tend to gravitate towards me/open up to me because im honest and transparent regarding my past traumas/pstd etc..Still very guarded,but surrounding myself with likeminded ppl i find helps. Im not a fan of small talk really..lol
Not everybody is ready 2 heal. Many r still in the narcotizing phase, using booze, drugs, cutting, anorexia 2 cope. I also first narcotized till I was ready 2 face trauma with the help of psychedelics. I c my daughter doing exactly the same.
@@mayapatuel1459 I agree this approach isn’t for all..Some ppl find it very overwhelming to hear about other people’s trauma..it’s known as trauma dumping..not many can handle it..And I can understand that..Also..psycilocibin changed my life..I am happy it helped you too…Everyone needs 🍄
It may not have been psycilocibin that you took but whatever psychedelic you had I’m happy it helped you xx best wishes to ur daughter too x
Bring back indigenous knowledges for healing ❤️🩹
at 2:30 the blindness he speaks of is something I remember well from the sixties and seventies when I grew up. In a very unstable household (to say the least) I was told by my stepmother never to speak of anything that went on at our home. This attitude was prevalent back then. Never air your 'dirty laundry' in public, it was not the done thing. Keep quiet, shut up about it. Nobody spoke about any of this stuff in social settings.
I have a well-educated friend from northern England, who still refuses to talk about her emotions and (I see) trauma in her own life, and how her own stress has affected her grown children who are still unable to cope.
Ohh yes!!! It was unheard of to speak of such things!
100 % understand. Grew up in DENIAL
My mother grew up in the same time period,she escaped a child molester/kidnapper..only too be told at home..
'Thats nonsense,dont make up stories..and dont you dare tell ANYONE such rubbish'....Very common attitude of alot of parents in that era
So ... let's say, for example, that I was molested as a child by a white person with black hair. As I go through life, I notice that I'm always instantly untrusting of white people with black hair. When I meet one my conscious mind is very sensitive to the slightest thing that I can use to justify not being more friendly with them.
Although I'm very Caucasian, because in my formative years I was mostly raised by an African-Panamanian maid/cook and a San Blas tribesman,(black Panamanian "pygmy"), I've never been afraid of or suspicious of black people, even though, from the age of eight, I was in North Carolina... Add that one of my older sisters,(5yrs older), was/still is, a malignant narcissist at least, if not a full fledged sociopath, and you have one crazy life... A MtoF transperson and lesbian, just three years sober after 45 years of active alcoholism.
Wheww😳🙄
Those that traumatized innocent little children are subject to eternal damnation. I rather be the abused and traumatized, for there is hope and relief for such people. If not in this life time, then the next or eternal life.
The universe, life, nature, consciousness or whatever is out there does not hold kindly those that hurt and traumatized the young and and the innocent. White person, black hair, or whatever crap you talking about. Narcissism is a mental order. It is an illness or sickness. I don.t know if mushrooms can cure that or if it can cure excess race consciousness or awareness. A tribal racist or racial person.
Anyone else hears the sound in only one speaker? Quite annoying and a shame to the absolute legendary content.
Ayahuasca is being studied by many scientists around the world 🌎 including Jordan RIBA from Spain. I believe he is a neuroscientist.
I love his book…..I used it for the somatic stress from family violence, domestic violence and being mugged ….this is so useful …….my own trauma is in the body which caused so much spasm pain….I used breathing from yoga thinking about the trauma and feeling my pain in the body and walking past the places where it happened breathing a lot …..I don’t have the money or time to leave the trauma in my body. I m off to the amazon soon….I studied tribals rituals and the dance with herbs work for me …..
The shaman are experienced spiritual guides however if control bothers the person then then it is not the ritual for them. I have used psychedelics throughout life and was with trusted friends. I had dengue fever where by I experienced hallucinations and sweating for weeks. I thought my drink has been spiked but when I got back to the uk I got tested and it was dengue. I lost 10 kilos. I stayed in bed drinking hot teas. I was and am a big person. However anyone who is frail in body and mind would not manage so well. Terrifying visions can come up. And they pass. You need a guide there when using any mind altering drug. Alcohol is worse and damages the liver. Yet we are allowed to buy it freely without limits. Natural plants are free alcohol is not.
I am surprised there was no discussion about Wim Hof’s methods of a specialized breathing technique, in addition to cold therapy, & it’s proven positive effects on the autonomic NS, which when practiced daily (I’m not suggesting anyone discontinue actual therapy, btw), includes what appears to be sort of “re-setting” (for lack of a better word on my part) of the “hyper response” of the sympathetic nervous system, in people who suffers from ptsd, complex ptsd, related anxiety, & related autoimmune disorders.
I have trauma, psoriasis and I am going to try cold therapy, even just ice face plunge is remarkable if feeling emotion flooding, heightened, anxiety etc.
@@heartspacerelaxations6924 sorry I missed this. It absolutely helps. I’m doing it too.
Been doing it a while definitely helpful
I read somewhere that EMDR was for people who experienced single traumatic events and not a traumatic event that was recurring. How true is this?
I want to know that too
I read something along those lines too; it’s due to the fact that all the research on EMDR has been on single traumatic events. So they don’t have the data for complex trauma. But anecdotal evidence from doctors like Dr Laurel Parnell, and Bessel van der kolk suggests that it is effective at treating complex trauma too. In my own experience, EMDR has been effective at treating complex childhood trauma
Not true at all With a single event you may only need 6 to 8 sessions. With Complex trauma you will need many more sessions but it still works
Everything he says about PTSD is true. It can be managed very well by a therapist who is experienced with using the EMDR that he speaks about. There are several others that will also work just as well. I am retired now, but I was able to fix even the worst and long-lasting cases in none or two sessions. Other names are EFT (Emotional freedom Techniques) TFT (Thoughtfield Therapy) and NLP (Neurolinguist Programming). These should be common knowledge but the medical field, for the most part, refuses to even look at the data of the studies done on them. If you or someone you know suffer from PTSD or the other problems that can be helped, please do yourself a favor and look into them.
Thank you for standing up for all trauma big or small.
If I could only sit and talk with Dr. Maybe I can sort out my trauma.
EMDR is like blowing on the NES cartridge
Or N64, 90's child here.
It's useful to keep an open mind.
People get caught up with the idea that everything needs to be defined and follow a set pattern or system, when the true nature of reality is a lot more expansive and random.
EMDR only works on the memory in the brain but we have to address the somatic too, which is the body..
Totally agree.
It does. The body is responding to the memory.
I have had emdr and it only worked in my brain, to stop the image and meaning and not the affect in my body, my body is totally in it, it might work for micro trauma, but maybe not for complex ptsd. If we work with the body it will release in the brain. Mantak chi and doug hilton has a new book, that talks about how we now know we have to incorporate the body and not just delete the memory in the brain. Its called EMDR and the universal healing tao an energy psychology approach to overcoming emotional trauma.
@@cherylwilsherlimberlife7210 emdr doesn’t delete the memory. Phase 6 is literally called body scan.
@@BigPhil2024 thank you!!! I’m so glad somebody challenged that unbelievably immature statement based on pseudoscience and sort of a self righteous dismissal and discounting of what EMDR actually does as well as the many other things that are being discussed including Neurofeedback and so forth
I totally agree with his comments about ketamine clinics. My daughter had two sessions with a clinic and all they cared about was getting her money. They gave her bad advice regarding her current medication that led to her going cold turkey off of lamotrigine, which is extremely dangerous and cause her serious side effects that at best nullified any benefits she might have gotten from the ketamine. She was begging me to let her die.
That is a terrible experience for both of you. People can respond differently to the same chemicals, that is why its so important for them to be used in conjunction with good therapy.
I was replying to @richardgrier8968 about his daughter.
@@angelamurnane2334 You are so right. She's been receiving esketamine (Spravato) for close to 2 months now at a reputable and trusted clinic. She has weekly therapy sessions and regular meetings with the psychiatrist that runs the mental health clinic that houses the company that administers the treatments (Greenbrook). It hasn't been a miracle cure, but she is definitely improving.
Every child has the birthright to be adored.
EMDR worked like a miracle for me.
very happy for you🕊
Was it childhood trauma or adulthood
This is a wise person because he never let the child in him die.
Interesting comment. When I was getting older, I heard a whisper that said " Don't ever forget how to play". Somebody tried to destroy that. A miserable old mother who never got to. I suppose.
After twice dx with breast cancer, I struggle with that lion constantly running behind me…when will she strike again….
At 3.32 I think the case can be made that we need some linguistic philosophy brought into this discussion.
I’m a functional traumatic.
Correct me if I a wrong, but eye movement work through hypnosis has been used for many decades. How is this different from EMDR other than the practitioner saying that they don't use trance or suggestions? It seems that a person getting EMDR is loosing some control by switching from one side of the brain to the other just like a light, a watch, or other form that moves eye focus in hypnosis.
I have a question. Why is Bessel talking from the ceiling?
Honest to god, I've know people that cut and starve themselves, I avoid and have compulsions (much reduced). Some of the smartest people I know still cant win out against the unthinking mechanisms of the brain 😢
I don't find anything helpfull to deal with childhood trauma in what Dr.Bessel says. What am I missing?
Your video is very interesting, but unfortunately the level of sound is low on both sides. Please, use your microphones to improve it in your future videos. Thanks in advance.
AUDIO MONO: go to settings in your laptop or phone for a better experience
your back ground wall must one shade darker and warmer....and you painting 2 " lower.......it all looks to dry and cold
I was recently assaulted and ever since I've been in fight or flight mode. I'm paranoid that people are staring and might hit me. I have no clue what to do
As he said, the psychedelics is new and someone killed themselves. For me life is hard enough without experimenting with drugs. I'll go with yoga and meditation. I'll also try to catch triggers and move from them.
Wonderful, insightful and helpful conversation, thank you! 🙏
Why is sound quality so screwed up? The opeing banner How To thing is fine then the talk comes in as if recording was done through headphone output
Really interesting, however the adverts are very intrusive on such a serious topic. Couldn't they all be at the beginning?
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My best friend starting using ketamine to treat his depression, and now he uses it as an excuse to do ketamine all the time and is essentially an addict at this point. Makes it hard to be around him, and it his having a very negative effect on his life.
can the interviewer be less invested in showing us how learned he is ,,,, ego is very strong... Kolk is enough !!!
my therapist is using EMDR, and it is working quite well.
every child has the
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birthright to be adored
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and when they see my grandchildren when
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they walk into a room
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everybody goes like oh my god isn't she
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cute and i think that is what kids need
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and that's normal
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and we are wired for it to be adored as
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kids
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but if as the number of people i've
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tweeted
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if they say oh [ __ ] i tried to abort you
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as a kid
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because i knew what a terrible kid you
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were that
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is a drama and that becomes your
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identity
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that's not a minor little thing man
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that's huge
Van der Kolk gave a really great talk. Very insightful and grounded in actual reality, which I really liked. But the woman who talked after him was different. She basically just put fancy word after fancy word until it formed some kind of sentence. Sounds smart, doesn't say alot.
How do I get in touch with Bessel?
Seriously, part of me wanted to stay in bed this morning? People without severe episodes of beating and starvings or tramatic domestic violence rapes and childhood rapes are in the same category as someone who just really wanted to stay in bed this morning as a fragmented part of themselves? Believe me they are as different as night and day experiences and i hope you do not have a habit of minimizing your patients pain as you did here.
I couldnt agree more..curious if they have actually experienced COMPLEX or consistent trauma....Only those who have truly understand. Life stress is so effing different.....
I'd love to hear Bessel's thoughts on cluster B personality disorders.
Try Dr Romani for that, much recommended
@@oppressednolonger1497 yes she’s excellent and so generous with her expertise
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@@chayawechter1883 thanks!!
The guy is not running from the lion, it´s the sabre toothed tiger !
I recommend listening to dr Barkley, on ADHD, it’s remarkable when he discusses intergenerational effects of ADHD. We know the link between Trauma and addiction. What is overlooked is the attachment trauma and other factors that cause ADHD, like alcohol during pregnancy. Circa 40% of adults trying to recover from addiction have ADHD.
Alcohol during pregnancy should be classed as an assault on the unborn infant.
Check Dr Barkley, you will see all the unmanageability of addiction and emotional dysregulation of trauma.
could you suggest a handy link? TY
hey. the majik worked! nice to see you guys again
Cute ?? The kid walks in. What if walked in and not Cute. 😅
Amazing talk and very informative in the self discovery journey
What are we blind to right now?
A combination of mental breathing and movement
We are rapidly learning. Thank you.
Such a beautiful and wise man. I am so hopeful for the day Psilocybin and MDMA treatments, under the exact conditions and guidance he outlined, becomes available for all of us willing but cannot afford it!
❤
For me Ayahuasca showed me the root of a LARGE traumatic event when I was 7 and EMDR helped me process the trauma. It only took me 35 years to discover this combination.
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Dr. VdK cares about people, which I'm sure is the source for his comments to "not mess around with this stuff." And, of course, he is immersed in an academic context, a formal psychological therapeutic context, which filters his knowledge in very specific directions. The problem is, if his admonition is taken to heart, or ultimately legally/formally enforced, very few people will benefit from psychedelic therapy (i.e. healing work using psychedelics). The people who are currently benefiting, both patients, and their degreed attendants/facilitators, are predominantly white and middle class (which I am also). But just like access to psychotherapy, vast numbers of Americans who have trauma histories -- generationally imposed from within families or from without by a racist, misogynist, etc. culture -- have no access to psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy for healing. Full stop. So, perhaps, an underground, peer-conducted and peer-vetting marketplace allowing more access to psychedelic healing possibilities, is actually worth whatever risks Dr. VdK believes are inherent in that scenario, the underground one -- the unprofessionally-curated healing context.
Besides, can those who are in greatest/deepest despair, in urgent need of healing, the ones who have exhausted other avenues open to them, wait until the medically curated psychedelic psychotherapy treatment is an option? If it ever is a option -- without insurance, without good-enough insurance, without the 'right' diagnosis, with the 'right' set of inclusions to the process (such as preparation and integration therapy)?
White male elitism has its grubby hands greedily grasping at every facet of psychedelic healing possibilities and that's just a fact (When is it never a fact related to a new revenue source? Seriously?). I'm NOT saying this about Dr. VdK as a man or a professional. My sense -- for what that is worth to anyone else -- is that he is sincere and not one of the white male elite 'grabbers.' But still, he fits the bill in every way except that he states the same message as many of the 'grabbers,' except with authentic sincerity, being oblivious to the ramifications of his POV for people who are hurting, have trauma, and need help now.
People are dying -- taking their own lives -- NOW.
Medically curated anything means white people, middle-class-and-above people, have disproportionate access to treatment. That's a fact.
You’re not helping anyone!
Bessel's book was very informative and was a huge help in helping me to bring attention to the trauma. But it was only after finding Eckhart Tolle that I really found the truth.
As Bessel said, there r endless healing modalities, from psychedelics to power of Now. No mind - no problem 😊
...nothing like playing with your own mind...careful put it back when your done....shrinks kill me.
Too bad it’s inaudible. Don’t know where the head phones are. ☹️
no we aren’t blind we want to be. because it doesn’t serve people to acknowledge their take in things. Every thing about war serves them. But we don’t care about other things.
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Haven't I heard Bessel van der Kolk say that EMDR is not effective for C-PTSD?
Have you?
Yes, I remember him saying that in one of his talks because with CPTSD you can't remember the trauma.
How u deal with drama , trama , & childhood nightmares, u don't think about it , u let it go , oh dern , u need a big bandaid & u leave it behind, it hurt u enough already , what's the point ?
No sound.
Does anyone know about branscanning, and what that is referring to?
You just laying to us and manipulating us you don't want the understanding of people
I want to be as calm as the guy at the start. Ugh
Everything works.....nothing works for everything.
Very Good. The approach to developing our understanding of what may happen in an individual as an evolving physical, mental and spiritual adjustment to and self protective adaptation from an event which may be ongoing in that person's life is a perspective that may be very useful and helpful in finding ways to heal. That there can be a complete healing for an individual is discussed in another interview.
And while on the journey, people are suffering and hospitalized.
Wow! Love what this man is telling us. We’re on the cusp of major breakthroughs on many fronts. And the stern warning to not go it alone with psychedelic treatments is an imperative! Thank you 🙏🏼
What is the dialogue with Benjamin? What does that mean?
Thanks for this good piece of content, and wisdom !
I don't like how you are saying that you guys were blind to incest. What I am trying to say is that psychologist could not have been that naive to the why and how someone becomes a drug addict. As far as I know when people were children growing up they did not want drugs or want to be a drug addict. Could you imagine a 5 years old honestly wanting drugs or wanting to be an addict. The men who took one of his family members and molested them and did not have to pay a consequence for doing these things to that person does not care about their well being their future because if that child does not get help at that time when the incident happened it leads them to deal with the unjust disrespect that took place on their own. As humans we are not meant to deal with people who inflict and traumatize one another. especially if the person does not get the help with the evil act that another person did. It is too much for one to deal with.
Only the weak and the innocent can be abused and traumatized. No abuser or wanna be abuser picks on someone stronger than them to abuse and traumatize. And, no abuser escapes the wrath of the mushroom. The mushroom will cure them too from abusing or wanting to abuse others.
Interesting video but sound should be improved
I'm glad he talks about how psychedelic therapy needs to be monitored. I had a therapist tell me that maybe I should just do some mushrooms at home. I was like....nah-uh! I did do some drugs when I was younger and NEVER had a good trip. It terrifies me!
You only have to do it continuously for some time (a few months) in small dose.. which is called microdosing. This is very helpful
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All depends on the person, dose, set n setting. I always journeyed alone, so the advice by yr doc would have worked 4 me.
I sense psychedelic assisted therapy is fantastic with a good therapist as he can lead u into certain directions, while avoiding others. Same time plant spirits know, with non human intelligence, what exactly u need.
I am sure a few ppl with serious pre existing mental health issues, must b careful.
If it's illegal where you are, you basically have no choice than to do it alone. I had a terrible trip but it helped me to realise that I'm stuck in specific ways. I would love to be able to do it with my therapist but unfortunately it's not legal so I wouldn't even think to ask her. I will do it again in a few weeks to try and dig deeper even if it is another bad trip. Some ppl may not be able to cope with it without someone with them to guide them through it, though. I wasn't planning to take a big enough dose to actually trip. Kinda happened by accident, thought the dose was light enough but obviously I have low resistance.
Abby ..You can take a microdose..Taking large amounts isnt needed unless you are wanting to achieve something else..I microdose all the time and I will for the rest of my life…They are a wonderful gift naturally growing on our earth..Pleaae research microdosing psycilocibin..the more ppl learn and understand the better our future will be…Everone needs to know about the power of psychedelics ❤️
John lennon was traumatised, but he channels it into his music.
I think I just went deaf in my right ear
Agreed. ketamine administration absolutely should be given under structured conditions with medical & psychological oversight.
The ketamine clinics have popped up everywhere bc they’re money makers. Most don’t have any mental health experts their or accessible. It’s a racket & unethical.
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The audio is rubbish
Why?
Men's trauma goes unheard or gets mocked when it's brought up
But here’s the thing… The ones doing the mocking are mostly men. I really wish that men would start holding each other accountable.
Intentionally blind???
I used psychedelics for withdrawal from anxiety medicine initially. Which worked wonders. Now I actually use this for anxiety. The only thing is when I do mushrooms I start crying. It's not like I am depressed, it's like flushing emotions. I'm wondering how this effects the inner child? Is this a form of past relief of the crap I went through as a child?
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