Towing with a Gas F250 or EcoBoost F150?? We've had both
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Just a candid discussion while towing with our new (to us) F250. We moved to a 6.2 gasser F250 from an EcoBoost F150 after 180k miles. The EcoBoost was a great truck and certainly capable. Is the F250 better???
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Can't wait until Ford comes out with the 7.3 Big Block in a 250 super duty.
Game changer for towing with a gasser.
6.2 L with a 6 speed transmission is a tried and true combination which is known for durability. I would rather have a tried and true motor than gambling with an engine which has not been tested by the public. I know many people are having issues with 6.7L diesel and the 11 speed transmission.
Just brought home my 6.2 gasser yesterday paid in full! Super stoked, man! Super stoked. First 3/4 ton
coming from a tacoma. Thing was struggling! lol
@@PepperandCaseysRV Congrats!! We have a tacoma out here in CO. We're going to upgrade trucks too so as to pull a travel trailer. I'm keeping the Tacoma too so as to still be able to enjoy the off roading here too.
I just bought my first 3/4 ton 2 weeks ago.....paid in full as well! Found a hell of a deal on a 2019. Cheaper than most 150's out there which is why I sprung for it. Love driving it but I definitely have to get used to the rougher ride (and mpg, ha)! Had a 2008 GMC sierra half ton. I don't haul a lot but I do have a 24' pontoon that's like pulling a parachute. Can't wait to feel the difference.
Thank you for the honest review. I have 2011 ecoboost F150. it tows like champ, but the larger truck would be most stable while towing.
Just traded our F150 EB for a 2018 F250. The EB had plenty of power but driving towing the trailer was a white knuckle endeavor. The 250 is stable and strong. We have a 30 ft jayco
James Garber what was your mpg difference?
@คีรีวงศ์ โมระศาก Using your logic - the only safe way to tow is not to tow since 0% of the max rating is obviously safer than 80%.
คีรีวงศ์ โมระศาก You sounds jealous. No truck for you!
@@syoung20001 I was simply stating what I learned from a towing supply website where I was shopping for tires for my own camper. If you had read all the way to the end of the sentence, much less the end of my post you'd have seen that I wrote "unless noted" on the tire. I didn't say that there was no such tire. Hope you are more polite in person. From your response you seem rude and angry. I hope my first impression of you is incorrect. Have a blessed day.
Did you go gas or diesel?
I towed a 7,000 lbs trailer 750 miles with a 2012 F250 6.2. That was easy as hell. I was doing 75 mph the whole time. That engine when you hit the hills and it drop 2 gears. It was music to my hears.
Trailer tires are not rated for more than 65 mph unless noted on the tire. Industry standard.
Keith Suggs My 2018 camper came with tires rated for 75mph. It would be better to educate yourself first and comment second, less you sound like a fool
Maybe his tires were rated for the speed he was going, like you said
@@syoung20001 There's an asshole in ever comment section. LOL
75? Just let you know that speed is very dangerous to towing.
@@keithsuggs7935 And
Just bought my F250 6.2L today.... I believe "some" are pushing the envelope on a F150..... Just because you CAN, doesn't mean you should. I rather have more cushion for safety, which I feel the F250 provides.
Billy Jackson this is good point and one of the reasons why we are gonna upgrade to a 250 soon.
You are absolutely correct! The payload on my Silverado 1500 was around 1,600 lbs. After tongue weight, hitch head weight, full tank of gas, gear, body weight and extra essentials we were at max payload. I could not even carry water in my TT if I wanted to. We were loaded down pretty heavy and that just didn't sit well with me. Now with my F250 gasser, I have almost double the payload which gives us more peice of mind but more importantly, more cushion and more stability down the road. Absolutely 3/4 ton if towing anything 28 feet and over with a weight exceeding 6,000 lbs. IMO
Great vid! I love your honesty and straightforwardness without making those who DO tow with half-tons feel like we are the worst and most unsafe drivers on the road. Truth is, we tow regularly with our F-150 (30' Jayco) and have no issues and never feel dangerous. I like that you set people straight by saying you would have never towed with an F-150 with your family if you felt it was truly unsafe (I hate when people make a flat statement saying the F-150 is unsafe when towing...it isn't).
The fact is anything can happen with any setup. Extra caution should always be taken when towing. Happy camping to you guys!! Thank you for watching and engaging!
It definitely is compared to an f250 with that much trailer
We towed a 7k lb 33 ft long trailer with a 1500 suburban. Was within limits and did okay but nothing to brag about. While in the market for a 3/4 burban or truck, got a great deal on a 99 F-350 dually.. The engine is a diesel but weak by today's standards (7.3, 235 hp 500 ft lbs tq). Its the stability of the truck that allows my wife to relax during the towing. The dually is only rating to tow 13,200 lbs but so are some new 1/2 tons. The truck was at fault for allowing a trailer upgrade to an 11k lb 5th wheel.
the 7.3's are loved for their reliability. Also keep in mind 500ft/lbs of torque is nothing to sneeze at. Sounds like you have a great truck.
I towed my 29' Travel Trailer on a 3500 mile round trip with my 5.4L gas Expedition....once. It had the power, but it was scary pulling through mountain passes, or when a big rig would pass. The big rigs would push the trailer around with the air. Got a 6.0L Diesel Excursion. Bulletproofed the motor and have been towing happily for the past 6 years with it. Went with the Excursion over a F250 due to the family and pets. It's been a great rig, though.
Great video. Very informative. My wife wants to get an RV or trailer and I have a 2013 F150 EcoBoost TwinT. You explained the weight distribution and it's effect on stability. Thanks
5 years later and I had this same dilemma. My 2020 F150 was fully loaded. 64k msrp. It towed my jayco decently but I definitely knew it was there and it would sway or tug back on the truck. I checked/adjusted the wda a number of times and nothing seem to help the sway. Just traded her for a 2018 250 Lariat (needed creature comforts for the wife). No more payload issues, no more sway, no more turbo spools, no more 10 speed. That 10 speed transmission needs a few years still.
I agree as some others do that towing with a half ton, you need to stay under 30' better under 28'. That is why I limit my Tundra to what we tow now. 28' tt.
My F-150 is kind of a contractor's truck. (XL, 4X4, Heavy duty tow pkg, 7050 GVWR.) With the Andersen No Sway WD hitch, it's as stable as can be. What kills me is the gas mileage. We're lucky to avg. 8 MPG.
That looks like a Grand Design Imagine. We have the 2600RB. Love it!
Jeff Barnett 2800BH! We love ours. The 6.2 averages around 11mpg towing. Not too bad. Unfortunately it averages around 13-14 NOT towing 😂😂. We knew that going in.
@@WanderingWeekends I have a 17 Tundra towing a Imagine 2250RK and it pulls it “ok”. From TX to FL at 65mph I get 8.6mpg. I use a WD hitch but still feels “floaty”. Wanting a F250 but wasn’t sure how the fuel mileage would be towing. If I could get 9 or better I am sold on the F250 gas.
Just got the 2020 SD F 250 XLT 4x4 6.2 with 10speed 3.73 gears. Love it towing my 26’ 7300# trailer. Had a 17 Ram 1500 2wd and it’s nite & day difference. Good vid. 👍
Honest question why would you not get the 7.3? Better mileage empty and lots more power towing.
I wish more dealers carried the hdpp f150’s, those are the unicorns that have f250 levels of payload and tow ability.
I tow a 6,000 lb (dry) 30' Jayco with a 2016 Navigator L and the 3.5 Ecoboost. I also use a Hensley hitch which eliminates all sway. This is a critical component on my set up and I highly recommend it over the conventional hitches out there. It tows great, no issues whatsoever. We have been all over the country, Wyoming, Montana, Colorado mountains without drama. My problem is payload, we are a family of 6 and I quickly run out with only 1,500 lb available. I have contemplated this move but I am hesitant as the truck limits us to 5 passengers. I am not sure I would be happy with the performance of that 6.2. The Ecoboost pulls so well making 420 lb of torque at 2500 and continues to climb from there to the 470 @ 3500.
Thanks for making a great video! I used this video as my blueprint. Pulling a 2020 Grand Design Reflection 300RBTS with a 2020 F250 with a 6.2 gas V8. Trailer is 35 ft long and loaded weight is right at 9000 lbs. Truck pulls the trailer so well that I don't even use a weight distribution hitch.
Glad it helped!
Richard Mason any idea what the gas mileage was?
Brett Kavanaugh 9.2 mpg
Thank you - you said it all. This is exactly my thoughts on the subject of upgrading to a 3/4 ton truck. I’m glad to have found your channel & this comparison especially. I’m towing a 5800 lb TT (27’) with a 3.5 eco-boost in a Ford Expedition. I’ve basically experienced exactly what you described & will be upgrading to an F-250 as soon as Practicable in my budget. Like you said, I definitely love my expedition for a fuel efficient, powerful daily driver(especially as we are a large family with 5 kids - 2 dogs). It certainly has plenty of power for towing& the engine braking complements the down hill braking excellently. Nothing wrong with the 3.5 L ecoboost engine - it’s just in too lightly built vehicle for heavy towing. In my case the scales show it weighs about the same as the vehicle being towed, which causes stability issues above 55- 65 mph on the highway depending on rod and weather conditions- especially experiencing “truck suck.” I am however, getting more used to driving it over the course of this season where we camped quite a bit. That being said - there is no way I would take this combo over the Rockies - just for the physics of the vehicle. It’s perfectly safe in the eastern lowlands - if you drive cautiously & I have a heavy duty torsion bar weight distribution hitch system. I still have a few more seasons before I upgrade & I am on the fence of a gas 6.2 Super Duty or the 6.7 power stroke diesel. I don’t want to regret getting a gasser & then wanting to “trade-up” again for a bigger trailer In the future (5th wheel) - sounds like a gas F-250 would suit my current needs fine (though downside of driving 2 vehicles in the short term with 7 total passengers.) plus the F-250 will be my daily driver to work ... a lot to ponder but your video definitely sold me on the upgrade in the short term - thanks!
Kevin Strevel big rebates on the 2019’s right now!!
Wrong ... Tires are key ..proper load range tires with stiffer side walls make towing way better
And get rid of that wiggle feeling in back .
We ourselves started out with a GMC Yukon to tow our Imagine 2800BH and boy it was a white knuckle ride in the beginning. We upgraded to a F250 Diesel. Love the power and the ride is awesome. Wish I could tow our rig everywhere. Just love it.
Great video! You are just confirming what I already thought. I just traded my '13 F150 for a '18 F250 6.2L. I have not towed our TT with is just yet, but I made the swap for the exact reasons you described. We do a lot of mountain towing here in Western Canada, and I wanted to feel more stable on the road. Can't wait to start towing with this great new truck!
I just traded my 2013 eco f150 for a 2019 f250, big difference in tracking and stability. And I loved my F150 it was a nimble good riding truck
So how did your 2018 6.2L do on towing? I just bought one only 40K miles looks brand new showroom condition owned by a women who hauled candles. I curious to how it's gona handle a 28ft 8000 lb travel trailer fully loaded.
We did what you, and many others did...start with the half ton we had. In our case we had a Suburban pulling the same class as your trailer. It did it, and did it pretty good. And by the numbers would have kept on doing it, but it was a little to close for my comfort. I was worried about pulling in the NC mountains and such. On flat land it was good. But after 2 season, upgraded to our Ram 2500 CTD. And like y’all, night and day handling difference. Stability and braking are my biggest benefits. And I live the exhaust brake in the NC mountains. Good choice with the gasser too. That 6.2 has a good history.
Kevin Cameron love the NC mountains. We were in the Black Balsams this fall. Stunning countryside. Happy camping. Thank you for watching and commenting!
A fair comparison. I towed a 10k fifth wheel for 3 years with my 2011 Ecoboost and moved to a diesel F350 to have flexibility in fiver upgrades. I learned that I always want a turbo for towing. At 62-64 mph, I got 9-10 mpg on premium gas. Now I get 11-12 on diesel fuel. I felt the F150 actually stopped better towing and wish I had LT tires on it, but am in my 3rd year with the F350 and have come to love it.
ericbskivt 10% better mpg but diesel fuel is 17.8% more at the pump currently and is expected to rise. That doesn’t even factor the other expenses .. def etc. per mile which for the most part not much
@@alphawolfadventures1470 But you cant put a number on a more pleasurable experience pulling with a diesel has. Also 10% mpg difference is worst case, 25% is generally is more realistic towing or not towing.
I would love an F250 with a 6.2L, but my boss did, and his averaged 12.5 MPG.
I have an F150 with a 3.5L ecoboost, and I am shopping for a boat that will top out at maybe 6k pounds, so I don't really need one. I also drive my truck a lot for work, so I don't want to get paid for my miles @ 12.5 mpg vs my F150 @ 18 mpg.
To each their own, but there is are way too many guys out there with 700 hp diesels that do not own a trailer of any kind, and haul nothing but kids and groceries in them.
I had 2 diesels 2 decades ago, but I was hauling an 8k trailer, and they had 185 hp and 400 ft pounds of torque. They also got 20 mpg empty, and diesel was $1.65 a gallon vs gas @ $2.00.
Diesel made sense then. It don't now. Not for me, and not for probably 75% of the owners. It's a status symbol anymore. But like I said... to each their own.
6k boat... definitely stick with the EcoBoost!
I love my 3.5 Eco for an all around truck, but I still use my 6.0 diesel when pulling heavy loads. I only tow maybe twice a month so buying some new diesel would be dumb for me.
A friend pulled a 7500# enclosed trailer NY to Fl with a first gen EcoBoost. He said he drove 55 max and got single digit MPG. Wasn't fun at all from what he told me. I have towed with Ranger/S10, 1/2 ton trucks, and HD trucks. The HD trucks are amazing for towing anything over 3 tons regularly. A 1/2 ton is geat for 3-4k regularly. Small trucks are scary as heck towing anything near their rated limit... the 7500 to 10k# towing limit they put on class 1 pickups is absolutely crazy. Id never, ever pull 7500 let alone 10k with an f150/ or 1500 truck.
I sold my diesel F350 for a fortune and went with a new 350 gasser.
I never looked back especially today because gas here is $2.17 a gallon.
I live next to a huge Ford Truck dealer and for some reason I get F350's cheaper than the 250's. Good for me because I really work my trucks. Here I get a better deal than I'd get on a 150 because they are a hot item in my area. Discounts aren't so good on any higher end 150.
That 6.2 gasser super duty average about 12mpg? Maybe? And 8mpg towing?
@@LightningRich00 Mine with 3.73 gears did an average of 15-16 mpg combined.
Interstate far better until you get into a town. My driving was rural back roads mostly
@@jimmaccari1489 strange. All the ones I see average about 12-14 in an F150, and 10-12 in a super duty. I know 5 guys with them. Great engines, love to rev, great with low ratio axles, but suck the fuel down. But if you drive 45-55mph, that is going to net a far better mpg scenario. I mean, my 5.0 F150 didnt get over 16mpg average.....
@@LightningRich00 Could be I drive in that 40-55 mph zone here and honestly I only do maybe 10% town- city. Mine was before the 5w30 spec-so I was running 5w20 Magnatec and full 80 psi on Wranglers. My neighbor dumped his f150 3.5 EB after experiencing my
F350 6.2L. I only used 87 octane. I'm not one of these story tellers on here you see. Yes I could get 21 mpg on the Interstate until I hit one off ramp stop sign and then I'd drop like a rock. My figures are based on weekly averages. I have a new F350 now but I don't have figures because it has under a 1000 miles on it. My local dealer stocks mostly 3.73 cogs.
I wanted to step up to 4.30's since I live in a hilly area- but hard to find here so I passed.
Maybe I got lucky- but I'll update when I get a few more miles on the new one.
The higher trim level F150s sell like hot cakes even at the price pt esp here in Michigan & Ohio areas .
The 250 is better for towing that's without question, love your truck. I have a 2019 f250 I got a powerstroke, my take on the dpf is that's what we have warranties for. If I have a problem with my truck I have a 100k powertrain to fall back on. Once that goes out I will do a full delete of dpf. Plus diesel are just so much better for towing over gas and the engines usually last alot longer not to mention you get to use the exhaust brake which is so awesome
boostsilver2k no doubt a diesel will out-pull it’s has counterpart... part of that reason is us gassers are hauling around the $8k we saved going gas!! 😂 all jokes aside we simply don’t tow enough to justify a diesel. There are pros and cons with both for sure. You’ll certainly enjoy your truck!
There are Gas 250's that cost as much as a Diesel, look at the Lariat packages in both, so the $8000 option is really a mute point. Also when you tow with a gasser you get 9-11mpg, Diesel gets 13-15, that adds up. And the situation with DEF and emissions, i have numerous friends with newer Diesels, if you do the proper maintenance you won't have any problems, none of them have had any issues.
Thank you for the video, I am back and forth on a 6.2 Gas or the Diesel, just listening to the constant downshifting, I have made my decision to go Diesel.
fit4ya1975 diesels certainly have their advantages. We simply don’t tow enough for the extra $$ (comparing trucks with the same trim levels). It downshifts some but it certainly isn’t constant. We just took a trip deep into the mountains this past August. No problems whatsoever. I don’t recall ever getting above 4000rpms on a engine rated to 6000. You’ll be in a good situation whichever you choose. Happy camping!’
Wandering Weekends Good to hear, Im going to take a drive in the 250 and see how it is. Gorgeous trucks and most importantly, a lot safer.
@@WanderingWeekends That really helps, The high rpms and shifting is one of my biggest concerns. I certainly don't want to run any engine constantly over 4,000 rpms for an extended time. I was afraid of that with the gas but it isn't as bad as I was thinking.
More impressed with how good your kids are
It deteriorated quickly after shooting this vid. Lol.
I put a borla cat back and a K&N full system cold air intake on my 2012 f250 fx4 6.2 and it really did open up that 6.2. Just a thought if you want quicker acceleration. I’m at 126,000 miles in 2021 and pull a 28ft Jayco 24rbs
Both powerful engines. However, the increased weight of your F-250 over the F-150 is a big factor in your stability. BTW, Great videos!
Thanks! Sincerely appreciated.
True it's all about the weight eco boost is a better engine than the 6.2
You made a good choice going with a gasser instead of the diesel to tow your camper. I would have bought a gas if it was just for my camper (9500 lbs) if I didn't have to tow a mini excavator and skid steer regularly around Asheville.
Yes sir! Diesel is the only way to go towing heavy equipment!
Intense Pisgah Biker why?? I thought a gas engine isn’t enough. I can’t decide what to get. Gas or diesel. I don’t tow heavy loads. But I have had instances where I could have if I had it. Kinda like 4x4. Never needed it till that one time. Lol
10k lbs or less go with gas. More than 10k lbs, go with diesel. I could get away with a gasser if I were towing just my RV, but the excavator or skid steer (12k each), I need diesel.
I'd love to see an EcoBoost in an F-250. That'd be the perfect truck for me!
birdn 870 a 5.0 EcoBoost! Ha! Thanks for watching and commenting.
It's a great choice but an expensive one
it is called a diesel - and I agree with the pros of the 6.2. if someone tows heavy all the time then diesel all the way, occasionally...the gas engine is great
Thomas New yea like a diesel but without def and all of the other emissions crap and cheaper fuel. I’d buy an eco boost f250.
He'll no the 6.2 will walk or run circles around the EcoBoost
The people who say " cant even feel it back there" are full of bs. I have a 31 ft rockwood trailer . Weighs 5000# dry. My 2013 3.5 EcoBoost, pulls it, and yes you feel it . But it tows great. My 06 Silverado 3500 duramax/ allison transmission also tows it, yes you feel it, possibly more than the f150 . But the weight of the Silverado definitely helps control the trailer a little better than the ford .
I'm pulling a 32' with about 9000 lbs loaded....with my Dodge Ram...4x2 ( 392 ) rear end max tow package. I have 63k miles on the truck.....about 100k miles we are going to trade up to a 2500 RAM ( gas ).....yea, I feel the trailer .... so I'm after the stability too....great video ... we are weekend warriors too...
Thanks for commenting and subbing! The Ram will certainly get you to 100K miles but you won't regret moving to the 2500 when you're ready.
Awesome, real life review! With my '11 E-Boost in the shop right now (71k miles = new turbos, exhaust manifolds & vacuum pump) my wife and I are considering a F250 6.2L, 4x4, SuperCrew, Shortbed. Like you, I am thoroughly impressed with the E-Boost's power; however, the "floatiness" leave a lot to be desired. I will for sure being focusing trading in the F250 for a simple, but reliable, V8! Thanks!
UPDATE: Just an Fyi, I sold the '11 and bought a '16 F250 XLT FX4 Supercrew, short bed 4x4 this weekend. I love it already and can't wait to to the trailer.
What was the reason for the new turbos and exhaust manifolds? Just curious I have a '11 EB with 68k miles on it, turbos gonna go out?
@@RolandCII Ultimately, the electric vacuum pump ('11 ecoboost only) quit working. The pump had been replaced under warranty at 50k and the 2nd one failed at 71k. The lack of vacuum caused the wastegates to malfunction, build pressure (heat) in the turbos and cooked the exhaust manifolds, resulting in the warping and exhaust manifold leak. All said and done, it was a $6k repair that was covered by an extended warranty. Lesson learned, never buy the first or 2nd year of a new engine or transmission to be the manufacturer's guinee pig.
Huge ...huge difference! Upgraded to F250 after only 4tows with 38’/7000lb Passport (suburban) .... will always tow with BIG truck from now on!! Thoughts of 6.7 always there ..... but content...for now
Do you use the f250 for towing only or does it get driven regularly? How is fuel mileage when empty and is the ride rough when empty?
Aaron Rippstein if I drive granny style I get 12.5 but mostly 12... Daily driver with occasional mulch trailer (small lawn care business, with F150)... ride is less than desired, but airbags helped a bit with the jolt (leave it at 20psi) .... I drive less-than conservative towing so I get 8mpg with camper!
Thank YOU. This answers the exact question I’ve been pondering. I have a 30’, 6,000lb trailer and a 2.7L eco 150. Was wondering if I should upgrade to a 3.5 150 or a 250, your comments on the trailer pushing the 150 around settled it. Used 250 here I come.
Leaning towards 250 now. But the new 2021 150 seems to do more, but I don't enjoy white knuckle driving. Lol.
@@PNWLiving1725 light truck is a light truck, no matter how much power
With 150 the trailer has you. With the 250, you have the trailer. Much safer, and the gas is cheaper and better. You have made a wise choice.
Thank you sir. Also, thank you for watching and commenting!
Thank you! I'm currently towing a boat/trailer package that's 9000lbs with a 2016 F150 ecoboost. I installed airbags and that helped, but I know the F250 is going to be more stable. Your explanation may help convince my wife to go F250.
Brooke loves the 250... feels so much safer than the 1/2 ton... it'll be awhile before I'd move back to a 1/2 ton truck.
I had a 3.5 ecoboost towing a 35ft Jayco and it was a handful! I made the mistake thinking it would work, it was not safe. I traded the 3.5 for a 6.7 Cummins and it is night and day. I think going for the gas 250 is a great option though. The thing I love about the diesel is the exhaust brake. Great video!
Thanks for the compliment. I have a good buddy with the Cummins, he loves it. Thank you for watching and commenting!
I am glad I saw your video cause I have been trying to decide if I should change my 2016 F150 for the F250 for the same reasons you stated .I mostly drive in Florida for now and the F150 has no problem pulling my 32 ft trailer about 6800 lbs. Thanks for the info.
Go with the F-250 I live in Florida as well but the stable ride has sold me. I have a Coworker that has a F-150 and he would much prefer the 250.
People don't seem to understand there's more to towing then just power your have far more control with a Super Duty as well as longer life in the drivetrain when towing heavy loads
Great video, I just did the exact same upgrade. The f150 pulled our 31 foot trailer with ease power wise, it was the stability issues. Even with the weight distribution hitch properly dialed in we were blown all over the road When a semi passed us. Haven’t towed with the 250 yet but I’m hoping it Eliminates the white knuckle driving
It's a whole different experience. The extra payload is awesome too!
Wandering Weekends after finally towing our travel trailer with the 2018 F250 I couldn’t agree more, There is no comparison. Love the eco boost and it’s power but it’s just not enough truck for a 30 foot plus camper.
Awesome analysis, thank you for being honest and giving us a review from a personal standpoint. Most reviewers want to get all technical with numbers and other's opinions. I prefer a review where safety, reliability and the overall feel of the truck (loaded and unloaded) are discussed.
Lightweight suspension versus extra leaves. 1400lb tongue weight capacity versus 500lbs. Big difference.
I love my f150 lariat Limit FX4 6.2 SVT 6.5 bed
Great vid. Just bought a trailer and my friend took it off the lot for it's maiden voyage in his 2017 F-150. Like you we noticed there was mild sway and one could feel the 4800lb trailer moving the truck. Nothing dramatic but noticable.
I'll be buying the 250.
Thanks for the video.
(Pssst....watch out for that psycho Terminator stalker. He likes your wife for some reason. Something about the future blah,blah,blah.)
Thinking of making the change. I have a 2016 f150 with 3.5 TT. Airide bags added, but white knuckle it from time to time. (15+ yrs of towing TT on various trucks) Considering a 2017 f250 6.2L for the stability. I think gas mileage will be a wash. Trying to make an educated decision.
Patrick Niven the stability will be a night and day difference.
I pull a Jayco 28RLS that weighs in ~ 6400lbs empty or around 7500 the way I typically haul it. I like the comparison between the 3.5 and 6.2. Many of the videos compare the 3.5 or 6.0 to the 6.7 diesel. Diesels are probably nicer, but come with additional costs and maintenance I'd rather stay away from being a weekend traveler, with an additional summer trip here and there. I will probably call today to look at the 250. Thanks for the video and comments. I appreciate your insight.
You're welcome. I am actually in a diesel now. It was strictly a want. I can confirm for your purposes (which are similar to mine) the diesel isn't worth it. I'd have no problems going back to a Ford gasser (I simply can't speak for GM or Ram)
Great video. I love my 6.2. I tow a 35 ft toy hauler 5th wheel and it does fine. You will enjoy that truck.
Exactly where I am. I have the 5.0, same complaints
Just got an F250 Lariat with the Powerstroke.
I wish ford offered a 5.0L ecoboost (in the F250) as the 3.5 ecoboost offers so much low end torque in the F150. I have the 6.2L F250 (2017) and I do say it is night and day coming from a 2012 F150 5.0L towing wise, no more "squishy" rear end.
When towing anything you have to stay with in all the numbers of the truck.If your in an accident you could be liable.In my 2014 F-150 my GCVW is 15,000lbs.Those are extremely important numbers to stay within
Thanks for the video as this is currently my debate. Stay with my F-150 ecoboost or get an F-250 gas? Payload and sway are my current problems and I like your feedback on towing with both. My camper is 7600 lbs and 27ft and looks a little taller than yours (Outback 250rs). I have done it for two years but I am tired of fighting the wind and calculating exactly what everything weighs and having to leave stuff at home due to weight. I usually drive 10mph under the speed limit to try and help but the trailer sway can get bad. I also tried upgrading my F-150 with sumo springs and a Mishimoto radiator. Don't do the Mishimoto radiator! Mine was replaced three times under warranty due to leaking and now I am out the cost of the radiator and all the time. I have the factory Ford one back in.
Did any of you people think about putting $1,000 into the EcoBoost suspension instead of putting an extra $10,000 into a f250? Plus the extra insurance. If you would have just upgraded your rear shocks, roadmaster active suspension or Firestone air bags you could have got f250 stability with f150 price tag and EcoBoost acceleration
I’m not sure any of what you mention would add any stability or payload capacity. Payloads weak points are generally bearings and/or axles. Upgrading the suspension doesn’t help add mass to the truck for stability purposes. Everything you mention simply helps the truck ride level with a load but studies have proven airbags place MORE stress on the rear axles and bearings in turn making your situation even worse. If what you suggest worked tons of folks would be doing it.
Here is a great vid about airbags... ruclips.net/video/XBZu39pQ8Gg/видео.html
Totally agree with you on the gas option!! The diesel for the average guy for occasional towing is money wasted!
I am a first time RV trailer owner and did a lot of up front research. I looked at the F-150, the Tundra, Silverado and the new Titan. I chose the F-250 gaser as well and am very happy with my choice. By the way I have the Grand Design 2970RL which I see you have a GD as well. The nice thing is if we want to upgrade to a 5th wheel you can with this truck.
Doug Meyer You’re smarter than most of us! Generally folks tell themselves they’ll be fine with the 1/2 ton and sometimes they are but most of the time they’re shopping for a 3/4 ton within a year or so. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
Your truck will last forever w/ good basic maintenance. You made a great choice!
I cannot thank you enough for this video you posted. I just bought an F150 3.5L ecoboost in November 2019. Shortly after I also purchased a new horse trailer. Now, the F150 pulled my two horse perfectly, with no feel of sway. This past weekend, however, we loaded up all three horses in the new trailer (combined weight of 8000-9000 lbs.) and I truly felt like I may have a wreck. The trailer seemed to sway and I didn't feel the truck had total control...it felt like it was pulling the truck! I've been trying to research the situation, but all I keep finding is to use the sway control, which is automatically on. I have been looking in to trading it in on a 250, but of course I am probably committing financial suicide by even considering it. Bottom line... the F150 had perfect get up and go and stopping. It automatically downshifted with the 2-horse and I felt in total control. I need that feeling again and it looks like I may find it in the F250! THANK YOU AGAIN!!!!!
You're very welcome. So glad it was helpful :-)
I did the same thing. I traded my 2012 Ford F150 EB for a 2015 Ford F250 Diesel. There were too many issues with the F150 EB that went away with the F250 Diesel. The F250 is a lot safer vehicle for towing a travel trailer.
I think the ecoboost and some of these new half tons have the power but they aren’t as heavy and stable like you said
Actually it's all about tires ...the f250 gas 4dr base models only weights like 900 pounds more then the same equipment f150 ...you can get a heavier f150 for the money n that eco boost is better towing engine then the 6.2 gas .
Long box 4dr 4x4 Ecoboost would be a good tower .. length matters for sway control.
Good video!
Great info. Thanks!
I concur with your comments about the F250 gas engine. I have a 2017 f250 gas that I pull a 35’ Keystone Cougar 29RKS that is considered a 1/2 ton towable and weighs 10400 GVWR, dry weight is 8700 lbs. I’m very happy with the towing ability of the truck. Happy RVing! BTW, on flat ground I’ve been getting about 9.0 mpg at 60 mph and 7.5 mpg at 75 mpg.
What kind of real world mileage do you get from your truck empty and also towing the camper? Is hand calculating any different that what the dash says?
That reason right there is why I cant do the 6.2 f250.. that thing is so thirsty its rediculous
Hi there. Thank you very much for this video! It is quite timely; we have a 4runner and Tacoma. Both are very small trailer pullers only. We've been thinking of getting a small couples travel trailer that is in a murphy bed floor plan; something like a geo pro or r pod. Me, my wife, and full sized dog are 550 lbs; then add hitch weight, 100+lbs for generator and fuel, WDH, water in the trailer, 2 bikes, etc etc etc and we're probably close to 1800 lbs payload. We were hoping the next sized truck (1/2 ton) would work, but I would be much happier with a bigger load margin. We also live in CO with winds, curves, and cliffs. So, a truck that is in control is important to us. Therefore, we've decided that for a travel trailer, we'll most likely get a 250 or 350. Not sure of the size yet. Since most of our camping will be boondocking in the national forests and blm lands, it is implied that we'll also do a bit of exploring of the local areas while there. Ha...now that we've surrrendered to getting a bigger truck, the size of the trailer may grow just a bit. We'd like to still keep it in the 25ish ft length, as well as we may as well get more of a 4 seasons rig so as to enjoy the shoulder seasons of winter too.
Since I'm going to keep our Tacoma for more off roading fun, we'll need to keep our costs down on the 250/350. I am thinking a minimum trim (XL, XLT), as well as gasser. Yes...the diesel would could have benefits in the long climbs here. But, I've used a 6.2 f250 to haul a 28ft enclosed car hauler full of furniture and it did just fine over the continental divide (yes...was down to about 40mph; but it is usually only a 10 or 15 minute climb). I may even go 4.30 gears to help the gasser even more.
Safe travels!!
Great video and explaining. F250 gas it is....no need for diesel truck.
Quick ?...how do you tow your GD? Manual shifting or straight to D.
Great review and I’m glad you like your truck. I’m in the market for a new truck and have gone back and forth between gas and diesel. On the one hand, I pull less the 3500 miles a year and I’m pulling about 9000 pounds. On the other, I often pull at altitudes over 8500 feet. I’m concerned that a gas engine will just make me want a diesel when I’m pulling higher mountain passes on grades over 7%! I could settle this question with the winning power-ball numbers!
Valid concerns. I guess I am getting old... I'm never in a hurry towing. The gasser will do what you're asking. Sure it'll rev but the motor is built to rev. Redlines at 6ooo rpms. After reading 100's of comments on these vids and seeing 1000's of comments on Facebook and forums, unless you're buying the truck to make a living gas is the way to go. Just my opinion of course :-)
I don't really get in hurry when I tow. I'm just concerned about horse power loss at higher altitudes. I do agree that gas engines are a lot more practical than diesels. Which one to choose....
Excellent video I always wondered what was the difference between the two trucks now as far as stability there is always the possibility of going with heavy duty springs and shocks which is what I did with my ford f150 and there is a major difference in the stability factor, Just might match the 250 but I don't know for sure but I notice I can go faster and not feel the bumps and swaying half as much as before upgrading my suspension.
There are certainly ways to upgrade the 1/2 ton towing experience. Unfortunately there is nothing to help increase payload or substitute for the sheer mass of a 3/4 ton. It's a totally different experience towing with a 3/4 ton truck.
@@WanderingWeekends Well I definitely agree with you I will be in the market for a 250 in few years. I dare not test drive one right I may get in over my head and end up in the dog house. lol.......Thanks for your comment
A timbren suspension kit and a stabilizer hitch and should be good to go with a 5.0 eco boost
brian rezarch I wish there was a 5.0 EcoBoost... unless Ford just introduced it. I think you’re correct about being good to go with an EcoBoost. We did it for a few years. The Super Duty is just better. That’s our whole point. Both work but one is much better.
Wandering weekends yes they just introduced one this year but like you I bought a 250 super duty
brian rezarch I know they introduced the 450hp 3.5 EcoBoost to the F150 lineup (from the Raptor). I can’t find any info on a 5.0 version. Wish they’d put that in a Super Duty!
Wow. So glad I found your channel. Towing an Imagine 2950RL with a Sierra 1500 that is quite capable but leaves me wanting for the same reasons you mentioned the upgrade to the 250. I can't justify the costs of a 2500HD Sierra and seem to have more available options with the F-250 family which we'll be looking at over next couple weeks. We're just over in Stone Mountain, camp about once every 2-5 weeks and frequent the GA State Parks, Lanier COE parks and an occasional haul to Fort Wilderness at Disney for the annual marathon weekend. You couldn't describe the experience of towing with the 1500 (very similar to an F-150 but with a 5.3 V8) any better than that word, "Floaty". Our payload on the 1500 is also around 1600 pounds and we push the margins with what we like to take camping. Looking forward to test driving some 6.2 F-250 gassers. Thanks for the video!
Brad I have the same trailer as you and pull it with a F-250 with no problems. I have a 2018 so it is a little more beefier than the older models. I have the XLT with all the bells and whistles for towing. The 17 on up are taller than the older ones so you will have to lower the distribution hitch. I have the Blueox with sway built in. Good Luck were heading out this weekend for a week.
The 250 I'm looking at this morning is a 2018 XLT. My Sierra has the Z71 package so the hitch receiver sits high on it too. My Blue Ox will likely be able to stay at same notch. If not, I have some margin to lower it on the hitch bar. How's the built in brake controller? I've been using an aftermarket Tekonsha P3 and been very happy with it but would have preferred built in.
Do you leave the anti-sway function active on the truck when towing with Blue Ox or turn it off? I'm really looking forward to moving from 1680 payload to 3800. I know I'm always pushing the margins on my Sierra and that's what is driving my quest to get the 250. Love our 2950RL. It was an upgrade from a 30RLDS Hideout which actually was heavier than the Imagine.
Doug Meyer Well, got the 250 today. Can’t wait to take the camper out. Just driving it without the camper is night and day difference over the Sierra 1500. It was this video the pushed me over the line. :-)
Brad we just got back from Ocala, Silver Springs area had a great trip. Congrats on the new truck I call mine the beast. The 250 hardly noticed the trailer, I my look at a 5th wheel GD down the road.
This is awesome! How does it tow?
Hi.
I’m sure you’ve got this question already answered somewhere.
7000lb travel trailer - F250 or F350?
Thanks
250 is likely plenty but too many unanswered questions to say for sure...
I have been waiting for a video to come out to thank you for making the time to shoot it. I completely agree with you that the new diesels scare the crap out of me. Regen mode, DEF issues, plugged particulate filers.... I would only buy one if I was towing EVERY day. Definitely going to go for the 250 gas! now if only Ford would make a 6.2 L Ecoboost with turbos... that would be the perfect truck.
Chad Bell would love a 6.2 Ecoboost! 😂
very good info thanks!
My 2009 f150 platinum sucks for payload. It’s payload is only rated at 900lbs.
all of those options get heavy!
The F250 is nice over your 150 but you need to take in to consideration you went to a longer wheelbase than your 150 if you would’ve have had the longer wheelbase in the F1 50 your stability may have been better!!
I agree a longer wheelbase would help some but I think the added weight and width of the super duty's are what really make them head and shoulders above the 1/2 tons in the stability department. Thank you for watching and commenting!
I've seen f150 longer based ones llifted sitting side by with a f250 and they look identical. I say put some air bags on a f150 and you should be fine.
surrfer990 lifting any truck really hampers it’s towing stability. Like I mentioned in a previous comment, airbags do nothing to help increase payload. In some circumstances bags can place more stress on your rear axle than no bags at all. Certainly not the setup I’d prefer for towing.
Exactly the confirmation I’ve been looking for. 2009 150 pulling 30’ 7000lbs. Very floaty as you say. How is it when an 18 wheeler passes from behind? My 150 gets sucked towards it. Love the vid.
Jeffrey Mueller night and day difference. 18 wheelers are barely noticeable. Glad the vid was helpful. I’m in a diesel now and honestly can’t say it’s worth the extra $$. Not for my situation.
Wandering Weekends was originally thinking new Ecoboost but was worried about the same floating feeling. After all the RUclips vids it’s going to be 6.2L & 4.30 gears. Being a gear head I’m sure the diesel torque is fun but not for $10000. Good luck and thanks!!
if you had the dually then you get close to not feeling it. but you always feel a trailer. good move on the gas. we just got a hemi dually. the new gas trucks have come a long way
I agree. Thank you for watching and commenting!
My 5.0 3.73 regular cab 4x4 max tow max payload pulls our hideout 28rks fine but I am sure a 250 or 350 is obviously best
The 150's great with 30' trailers as long as there's no downhill or hard braking needed. If you live in a region like FL, the 150 can handle it. But as soon as you hit hills even the size in PA, it's going to be pushed on those downhills. My 350 gasser struggles a bit on the the long uphills in PA with about 6300lbs, but downhill is fine.
I have your exact same trailer so all in all did it do a good job towing it now that you've pulled it for a bit? What year was that truck?
Oh boy. We’ve done tons of towing tests since this video. Have a look back on the channel.
I’ve been considering purchasing a heavy duty, but I just can’t get around the idea that I’ll be hating life when I’m not towing. I live in Los Angeles and I use my F150 as my daily driver. I only tow a 5500lb RV 5 or 6 times a year for camping trips. The most grueling drive I put it through is on the way to Yosemite. My 2.7 eco boost crushes the uphill portions. The down hill portions; not so much. The reason I’m considering a heavy duty is because I do get tossed around a bit when passing - or getting passed - by big rigs. Maybe a longer wheelbase might help. Who knows? I wish there could be something in between a half ton and a 3/4 ton.
City driving would be a chore at first. Parking garages are a challenge otherwise you'd adapt quickly. Not as bad as it seems at first after a month or so.
Wandering Weekends Thanks for the response. My local Ford dealer is selling a 2019 F-250 XL Crew Cab with the diesel engine and 7 miles on the odometer for under $35,000. I’m very tempted to go in and pick it up. It doesn’t have any of the bells and whistles, but at that price and with that engine, I think I can make it work with aftermarket add ons.
Corey- love all the content and I'm making it through a lot of your videos (in no particular order). But wanted your thoughts. Interested in the same trailer as you (2800BH), and if I get a truck that has enough payload and tow capacity- -is that enough to tow the trailer safely/comfortably, or should I have cushions on all my calcs? This truck will be my daily driver, so I don't want a F-250- -but I don't want to be unsafe while still needing the room of the 2800BH. So, let's say I get an Ecoboost 1/2 ton and stay at or just barely below the payload, GVWR, GVCWR, and tow capacity-- will that work or do I need to build in some sort of cushion to have a good ride being only in a 1/2 ton truck? I'm also going to get a pro-pride weight distribution hitch if that helps. THANKS!
W Grace thanks for reaching out! The hard truth in this situation is a 3/4 is the only way to go. A Pro-Pride will band-aid the situation but does nothing to help your payload capacity. It will also not help you maneuver or stop the 2800. I daily drive my 250 and it rides great. Sure it’s a bit stiffer but it’s also built to last longer than a 1/2 ton. I realize this isn’t the answer you were hoping for but I just can’t recommend a 1/2 ton based on my experience with both. 😐
@@WanderingWeekends Thanks for the quick reply. I realized I was commenting on the wrong video (I watched your other truck video, and thought I was commenting there). So after posting, I watched this one and convinced myself I could do it with an Ecoboost 1/2 ton. Dang! Maybe we'll look at a smaller trailer. This RV'ing stuff is just as frustrating as general aviation! Weight and capacity are always limiters.
haha those are some heavy bikes to get close to 1600 pounds of payload...dont even think you'd be able to reach those numbers with fire wood in the back. so not sure what you're referring to.
I have a f150 lariat EB and do not have a problem towing our 26 foot travel trailer going 75!
Andrew Menicelli that’s awesome. Happy travels and stay safe out there. Make sure you check the speed rating on your TT tires. Most aren’t designed for those speeds. Happy Camping! ⛺️
Carlisle radial trail hd. Rated up to 81 mph.
I love the 9:00 mark....when the daughter swats at mom...rolls her eyes....when is dad going to shut the heck up...LMAO...
Jeff Jassby haha... that is exactly what she’s thinking! 😂😂
I know this video is a little older, but wanted to say, thanks for doing it. I am considering trading an 11 Ecoboost for a 14 F250 6.2 as well. What year did you end up getting? We tow a camper, a bit smaller than yours, but are looking forward to the nicer features inside, as it is the King Ranch version.
I went from a 2011 EcoBoost to a 2013 F250. Game changer. I'm actually in a 6.7 diesel now and honestly don't feel it was worth the extra money (for my particular application). Going 3/4 ton is definite;y worth it!
@@WanderingWeekends Thanks for that... and I saw on some of your other vids that you went to a diesel. I just subbed you. Thanks for letting me know about whether the diesel was worth the cash or not... I was tossing pretty hard between two, and the diesel is obviously more cash.
Interesting,,,, I went from a F350 diesel to a ecoboost max tow, same cab/bed config but the F150 was MUCH more stable than the 350... I tow a 11K dump trailer and a 26' box trailer. The 350 had much more wander when driving down the road and would sway more then the F150. I find it very interesting that I have had the opposite experience.
I'll have to say... over 1 million views on our channel and you are the first to ever have that experience... hitch?
@@WanderingWeekends I don't even have a weight distribution hitch on my truck... the only thing I changed on the truck was changed the P rated junk tires they put on from the f150 at the factory. (I don't understand why they would put a P rated tire on a max tow package truck) I now have a set of 10 ply KO2 LT tires on it that made a huge difference. The F350 was a 2004 while the F150 is a 2014 so the 150 has a lot more tech.
When I was towing a 10K fiver with my 2011 F150 Ecoboost, I installed Supersprings and Bilstein shocks. If you are getting an F150 for towing, I highly recommend doing a special order for the Heavy Duty Payload Package for a payload of over 2,000 lbs. That will make it a great tow truck up to about 11,000 lbs. The HDPP gives it a capacity close to an F250.
Eric Ball you may want to check your rear axle rating... springs and shocks do nothing to help your axles and bearing. The payload package is an option but those are special order trucks and they’re still lighter, narrower, and slightly shorter than the Super Duty which all contribute to towing stability. I think anyone would still be longing for the Super Duty in the end.
@@WanderingWeekends Understood, and I was 650 lbs over the GAWR but good with everything else, and that is why I recommend the HDPP if you are going with the F150. I honestly felt very little handling difference between my enhanced F150 and my F350. The Ecoboost had plenty of power, but I traded up at 65,000 miles because I had concerns about longevity and wanted some spare payload capacity. I don't regret the F350, but I don't regret the three F150 seasons either. Both have pulled us across country and back. For me, I just wouldn't want to tow without a turbo.
Love the videos
Edward Dunn Glad you enjoy!
One of the best analyses I’ve seen of the differences between the two Ford trucks. Did you use the same Weight Distribution Hitch (WDH) with both trucks?
James Cason great question. Yes, we used the Blue Ox SwayPro on both trucks.
Thanks for the video. Did you put any airbags or helper springs? How is the leveling of the truck?
No helpers... generally that just means you need more truck. Appreciate you watching!
@@WanderingWeekends I have a 2011 F250 gasser. I'm renting a 5600lb travel trailer and driving 12 hours with it, so I want to make sure I'm safe and comfortable! Any tips?
How reliable was your f150? What types of repairs did you have?
Power-train was awesome. Terrible electrical issues towards the end of my ownership. Dealer couldn't figure it out. Claimed it may have been hit by lightning. I think that was their excuse for not being able to completely fix the issue.
Thanks for the video. What is the dry weight of y’all’s truck.
Not sure :-( that truck is long gone... New truck is around 7,000lbs
Great video! How would u feel about airbags and 8 to 10 ply tires on a new F-150? Im on the fence as well. I have a 13 5.0. 6700lb jayco at 32’ with wd hitch and sway but can still feel it.
I’m not a real fan of airbags... they’re almost always sincere proof one needs a a bigger truck.
I hear a lot of shift busyness. Sounds like that V8 is searching for gears. Or power. Or torque... Or something. I guess I just thought that a newer gas job would pull better than it seems to. I wonder why they don't twin turbo that V-8?
Peter Underwood it rarely tops 3500RPM’s in the mountains. The motor is rated to 6000RPM’s. Never has to work more than 60% of its capacity. No complaints here. I’m looking forward to seeing what the 7.3 gasser has to offer but I’m happy in this truck. I wouldn’t take a diesel if you gave me one (unless someone agreed to pay the maintenance/repair bill for 10+ years). Thanks for watching and commenting.
I own a 2012 F250 with the 6.2 coming from a F150. My rule of thumb and what I tell my friends, if you tow a travel trailer that weighs over 6500k pounds and you tow on the regular get a F250 at a minimum. If you only tow a few weekends a year than a F150 will do the job but you will not have as stable towing experience. If you go camping a lot I highly recommend looking at a fifth wheel over a bumper/hitch pull as fifth wheel campers pull the best.
What's the mpg difference between the two towing vs not?
Any input on the difference on fuel economy? I watched/listened while at work so I may have missed it...
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts after your trip has concluded. We have a 2012 EcoBoost and a 30 foot trailer. Your comments regarding safety and stability resonate. I've been thinking about going to the 250 and now, most likely will. Thanks for a very informative video! Thumbs UP!
Stephen Brown if you can handle a higher fuel bill get the 250. We have zero regrets. You’ll keep wanting a 250 if you go 150.
What year 250 did you go with, if you don't mind my asking? I'm thinking somewhere between 2015 to 2017.
I found a 2013 with very low miles. Love it. I dont regret the 6.2 either. So far the perfect truck for our needs.
It is a great looking truck too. Maybe I can find one also. Happy trails to you guys!
Thanks for watching and commenting!! Shoot us an update soon!
Is this the same trailer you had with the EcoBoost?
78ginop yes sir
I’ve had the 3.5 ecoboost and had problems with mine at 50k miles and what attracts me to the 6.2 is what I bet will be reliability being it’s naturally aspirated. Long term small gas engines plus turbos aren’t exactly a recipe for longevity. I bet the 6.2 gets better mpg towing than the ecoboost too since it doesn’t have to work so hard and spoil the turbos non stop towing. My ecoboost towing a 3000lb enclosed cross country got 7.5-8-5 horrendous! Diesel ? Not worth it unless you tow everyday and diesel fuel is more expensive and is expected to continue to rise vs gas. Longevity wise I bet and will literally probably end up putting my money on the naturally aspirated big block 6.2 v8 . Screw turbos , sensors, def, and all the other emissions stuff that will have you spending days at the dealer
No telling the detrimental effect on longevity turbos would have on semi-truck tractors, farm equipment, earth moving equipment, etc.
Buckhorn Cortez all Diesel engines you stated. Completely different diesel gets its power from compression gas from combustion why diesels last longer and that’s not even debatable. But a diesel without a turbo would probably last even longer. My dad had a 7.3 diesel before they started putting turbos on them it’s a 1991 with 300k miles on it and never an issue besides routine injector stuff but I’ve also read stories of that same engine with turbos getting over a million miles. The 3.5 ecoboost isn’t a 500k mile engine I’ll be surprised if it gets 200k without serious issues. Hell mine with 50k just had a serious issue 😂 (coolant line to turbos)
It all depends . The turbo charged V6 & 4cyl motors Ford offers are overengineered in that they are built to be strong & reliable but...maintenance will be more critical . Ppl can't go 7,500 or 10,000 mis between oil changes! Full synthetic oil is a must too. Can't go wrong with Ford trucks in my opinion and experience. Best built out there.
@@buckhorncortez I can't tell if you're trolling or not
Buckhorn Cortez turbos will only affect longevity if they aren’t set up properly for the application. In the case of the ecoboost, sure they have power. But the engine it’s self isn’t substantial enough to be towing at its max all day where as the 6.2 will pull and pull all day and not bat an eye. Not saying the ecoboost is a bad engine, but it’s like comparing apples to oranges.
I've been thinking I should go F250 over the F150 due to payload. Trailer is 7272lbs dry with 835 tongue weight with family of 4 seems it would always be over on payload on F150??
Likely cutting it close. Assume at least 20% more on the tongue weight if that is your advertised you tongue weight. Our advertised tongue weight is 600lbs… actual is almost 1000…
@@WanderingWeekends yes probably is I think that's a dry weight tongue the GVWR 9063. It's a Puma 28BHSS.
I don't have a trailer but I would like to get one just to go up North and put my bike in it occasionally but right now I'm just looking for a truck I was leaning on us-62 with after watching this video I'm wondering if I need it if somebody stuck in a ditch will the EcoBoost be able to pull them out
EcoBoost pulls like a freight train.
@@WanderingWeekendsthank you. People get stuck in ditches up on the North End by me and be nice to know that I can pull them out