transforming an infinite sum into a finite sum

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2024

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  • @vanannguyen5365
    @vanannguyen5365 Год назад +67

    Fun fact: The identity
    a^4 + 4b^4 = (a^2 + 2ab + 2b^2)(a^2 - 2ab + 2b^2)
    Is also known as the Sophie Germain's identity, named after the French mathematician Marie-Sophie Germain.

    • @demenion3521
      @demenion3521 Год назад +1

      was about to right exactly that

    • @danielprovder
      @danielprovder Год назад

      She also has a particular set of primes named after her

    • @azzteke
      @azzteke Год назад +1

      @@danielprovder after HIM?

    • @danielprovder
      @danielprovder Год назад

      @onebronx, @azzteke fixed

    • @urnoob5528
      @urnoob5528 Год назад +1

      btw a^69+420b^666 is named after me
      solve the identity urself

  • @showri.a9930
    @showri.a9930 Год назад +1

    Another way would be this...
    Now sum(1/(n²+(n+1)²) = sum(1/2n²+2n+1)=sum(1/2(n+1)²-2n-1)
    Transposing everything other than the first term at n is 2 from 3rd to second equation we get the proposed equation to have the value 1

  • @demenion3521
    @demenion3521 Год назад +20

    that's a very specific, but nonetheless very neat trick. and it's very cool to show that every sum of the form on the lefthand side of the proposition is actually a rational number which you wouldn't necessarily expect from sums like these

  • @hybmnzz2658
    @hybmnzz2658 Год назад +3

    The satisfaction when that final expression is 1

  • @ConManAU
    @ConManAU Год назад +6

    So it’s actually a telescoping sum in disguise. Neat!

  • @manucitomx
    @manucitomx Год назад +16

    Wow!
    And no pesky π’s, ln(2), no e^(-1/x).
    Thank you, professor.

    • @pappaflammyboi5799
      @pappaflammyboi5799 Год назад +7

      If any of those values appeared, it would prove that they aren't transcendental numbers. That would be pretty neat if it happened, though.

  • @MathFromAlphaToOmega
    @MathFromAlphaToOmega Год назад +27

    Now do the sum of 1/(4n^4+1) and you should get some nice π's and e^π's. :)

  • @goodplacetostop2973
    @goodplacetostop2973 Год назад +10

    12:09

  • @veselindimov307
    @veselindimov307 Год назад +2

    This trick was completely new for me, as well! Thank you for sharing with us, Prof. Penn!

  • @DrR0BERT
    @DrR0BERT Год назад +1

    EXTREMELY clean board.

  • @tordr
    @tordr Год назад +2

    This video pairs perfectly with @Mathologer recent video on Riemann rearrangement theorem.

  •  Год назад

    Excellent video. I really enjoyed it.

  • @calamitates77
    @calamitates77 Год назад

    Isn't the original series just a telescoping series? The generalization using the variable a extends the concept of telescoping series from t_n = a_{n+1}-a_n to t_n = a_{n+k}-a_n where k = 2a in this case

  • @RandyKing314
    @RandyKing314 Год назад

    that is a nice surprise!

  • @1991tnh
    @1991tnh Год назад

    Great video ❤❤❤

  • @Patapom3
    @Patapom3 Год назад

    Amazing!

  • @tenormin4522
    @tenormin4522 Год назад +1

    Could be manipulated so we get zeta(3)? Just shy away from a = 0, but maybe it could be forced somehow. This was my first thought - "we got zeta(3)" then I woke up and stood up from the crapper.

  • @artichaug1719
    @artichaug1719 Год назад +4

    Oh but check this out…😂😂😂

  • @Noam_.Menashe
    @Noam_.Menashe Год назад +3

    You needed to check that the n=infinity terms go to zero, which they do in this case.

  • @chayapholtopar5992
    @chayapholtopar5992 Год назад

    This kinda work for the specific form of that fraction , what if the fraction changes to 5n^2 / 18n^5 +33 ?

  • @iithomepatnamanojsir
    @iithomepatnamanojsir Год назад

    Very nice

  • @ironbutterfly3701
    @ironbutterfly3701 2 месяца назад

    With one exception a=0 can’t be done

  • @salkabalani1482
    @salkabalani1482 Год назад +2

    wow!!!

  • @MDNQ-ud1ty
    @MDNQ-ud1ty Год назад +3

    So the question is if all absolutely convergent infinite sums of rational functions can be reduced to infinite sums. The likely answer is no but then what properties does the rational functions have to have so it is true?

    • @Alan-zf2tt
      @Alan-zf2tt Год назад

      It is an interesting thought! Does this example completed by Michael represent a single animal on its own or does it represent a class of things?
      Ahhh ... the power of algebraic analysis?

    • @TheEternalVortex42
      @TheEternalVortex42 Год назад +1

      Do you mean reduced to finite sums of rational numbers? If so then this is false for any transcendental. Otherwise it's trivial since you can have the sum of a single value.

    • @Alan-zf2tt
      @Alan-zf2tt Год назад

      @@TheEternalVortex42 I wonder at times if some transformations introduce spurious answers.
      Mostly because I don't know enough about compositions of transformations.
      As an example .... ruclips.net/video/NmJhxa33wnw/видео.html

    • @MDNQ-ud1ty
      @MDNQ-ud1ty Год назад

      @@Alan-zf2tt There are likely an entire class and on first glance seems to be related to a symmetry in some way. If f,g are rational function with f(x) = g(a+x) - g(a-x) then it the tails of g(x) will cancel.
      Basically there is only a finite "middle" part that will contribute to f(x) in the sum as the rest of the tail will cancel itself(it has a type of symmetric periodicity after some point).
      Those look like solutions to the wave equation also if g is an odd function so not sure if something is going on in there.
      The point is that the function behaves a certain way in it's tail so that terms will cancel out. I think this could get really complex though so I imagine the class is much larger.

  • @oida10000
    @oida10000 Год назад +2

    4:25 can some one explain to me where the 1/(4a) comes from? That is random.

    • @yoav613
      @yoav613 Год назад +1

      This comes from partial fraction you wil get 2an-(-2an)=4an so you need to divide by 4a to get n.

    • @penguinpenguin-zm2mr
      @penguinpenguin-zm2mr Год назад +7

      partial fraction decomposition
      we split the initial fraction as a sum of two: A/(n^2 - 2an +2a^2) + B/(n^2 + 2an + 2a^2)
      A=-B to cancle out n^2 and 2a^2 terms
      and we need 2an*A - 2an*B = n = > 4anA=n = > A = 1/4a

    • @iabervon
      @iabervon Год назад

      You can kind of guess the PFD: 1/(f-g)-1/(f+g)=2g/(f+g)(f-g). If you match the RHS against the problem, you're only missing a few things from the numerator, so you can just divide by them in front. This comes up all the time when you have a difference of squares in a denominator.

  • @minwithoutintroduction
    @minwithoutintroduction Год назад +2

    جميل جدا كالعادة

  • @camilocagliolo
    @camilocagliolo Год назад +1

    What happens to the upper limit of the sum if 2a is not a natural number? Maybe I missed something.

    • @allanjmcpherson
      @allanjmcpherson Год назад +1

      We assumed 2a is a natural number right at the very beginning.

    • @Alan-zf2tt
      @Alan-zf2tt Год назад

      Yeh - I fell for that one too

    • @dragonmudd
      @dragonmudd Год назад +5

      @camilocagliolo Then we wouldn't have been able to do the change of index at around the 8:00 mark.

  • @TomFarrell-p9z
    @TomFarrell-p9z Год назад +2

    Writing an infinite sum as a finite sum obviously shows the infinite sum converges. Wonder if there are infinite sums that could be manipulated like this in which that is the "easiest" way to show that it converges?

    • @Alan-zf2tt
      @Alan-zf2tt Год назад +1

      I agree. A first thought may be: ahh! Great! Second thought: hey wait a minute! Third thought: get a post-grad in here to check it out!
      Fourth though: flippin 'eck - it worked!

  • @gp-ht7ug
    @gp-ht7ug Год назад

    Great

  • @tcmxiyw
    @tcmxiyw Год назад

    Cool!

  • @timothywaters8249
    @timothywaters8249 Год назад

    The answer is always something obvious... the maths are optional.

  • @andrec.2935
    @andrec.2935 Год назад

    👍

  • @wojciechwisniewski6180
    @wojciechwisniewski6180 Год назад

    Noice!

  • @ACDCROCKS135
    @ACDCROCKS135 Год назад +2

    Here's an obligatory comment asking you how to use math to transform my finite sum of money into an infinite sum of money. Will share $$$ if successful

    • @joelganesh8920
      @joelganesh8920 Год назад +1

      Oh that's easy! With Banach-Tarski's Theorem it is possible to decompose your money into a finite number of parts such that after reassembling you are left with twice the amount of bills you had. Now repeat the process until satisfied.
      Now where are my $$$?