Mark Cuban Explains The Good & The Bad Of The NBA's Next TV Deal | ALL THE SMOKE
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2023
- On the latest episode of ALL THE SMOKE, Entrepreneur, and Mavericks owner, Mark Cuban discussed the NBA's next TV deal, and while it will be so much different then the past ones, including the good and the bad of that.
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The blackouts due to local programming is the worst. Sports broadcasting needs to evolve.
BAN Adam Silver the Vampire who sucked the life out of the regular season, allows players to skip 30% of the games for “rest” purposes. He destroyed the NBA value product and made it a cheap Chinese knock off.
Agreed. Ridiculous
Blackouts are ridiculous. People dump on MLS (and sometimes rightfully so), but man did they nail their TV deal. I can watch any game anywhere in the world on a single platform whenever I want. There's no local or regional blackouts; no Comcast or cable sign up required; games don't get bumped if another program goes over; I don't need to download a million apps and have loads of different logins to try and find a game. It's the easiest and best thing ever and I wish more leagues would copy it.
SHOUTOUT the producers of the show! Especially this episode. Beautifully put together.
A lot of fans aren't paying balley sports to watch the local nba teams. I'll watch RUclips clips before I give them any money
I once paid a couple hundred for the NBA League Pass, all local games were blacked out. No way I'm paying $30/month to watch one thing on a cable network or app. Now I don't watch basketball because I have no easy access. C'mon NBA.
Put the NBA back on NBC
I stopped watching my local team. We've barely put a rec team out there the last decade. Outside of the top 25-50 players the rest of the league are g leaguers. Dudes are fundamentally terrible at the game nowadays
@@joshlewis575 the international players are better than the American players nowadays as well
I have this issue in Canada. Even worst. It’s nuts, League Pass is useless
I want NBC to be like the old school 90's NBC basketball. They had the greatest intros ever
I remember not needing a cable subscription to watch local Pistons games during that week. Now you are limited to just national games over the weekend. Cord Cutters simply have less access to the NBA which is awful for market growth.
Mark Cuban is a sharp dude to give us that long term perspective of the team is critical info I never considered
Netflix need to get the nba rights
Amazon is probably gonna get the NBA rights
The TV deal is the biggest issue with expansion. If there are new teams they need to cut two more pieces out of the TV deal. Or streaming or whatever, the basic problem is that none of the owners want to vote themselves a smaller piece of pie.
I think you got it slightly confused, it wouldn’t be “cutting 2 pieces of pie”, look at it more like “adding 2 more pieces and making a even bigger pie” , the new owners would be putting in all the cash, they not just coming into the league Willynilly and getting a piece of the pie
@@moe-kp2sx but the tv pie is much bigger. Adding 2 new teams would mean sharing $2 billion among the other 30 teams. While the two new teams would get an even share of the national TV deal with all the other 32 teams.
Let's use the previous deal as an example. It was $24 billion for 10 years. Split 24 among 30 teams. That's $800 million per team. Now split 24 among 32 teams. That's $750 million. At that time teams were worth an average $300 million. So 2 teams would be $600 million. $600 million split among 30 is $20 million. Teams would stand to lose $30 million.
So unless the NBA adds a clause where the streamers/channels will pay more for more teams, it ain't worth it for the NBA. Unless that's an international team like in Mexico City, which would increase the NBA deal in that country
@@BurritoKingdom numbers make sense but again, the initial $2billion is on the very very low end of estimates and you know that. 2 teams which likely Seattle and Vegas, will be minimum $5B total package so that should weigh in lol. But you’re point is valid nonetheless, imo its not about the nickel and dimes in the current fiscal year, its more the vision and outlook. Not a single owner would oppose those teams on that basis.
@@moe-kp2sx some owners are cheap and short sighted like the okc owner. Remember he traded away harden because he didn't want to pay him $20 million more, not $20 million per year... For the length of the contract, it was only $5 million more per year. 😂 Robert Sarver was also cheap, luckily his racist ass was force to sell.
To change rules 24 of the teams have to agree, not sure about adding teams but probably the same or more. Alot small market teams just think of the short term and may vote no, like OKC.
NBA is going to get more bigger money with the next tv deal
I personally wanna see the NBA returning to NBC when the new tv deal is done because as a basketball fan I want to see better broadcasting and improving nostalgia. Other teams deserved to receive some attention especially other star players and NBC does a better job of doing that.
Facts. Bring it back to NBC...ESPN is doing a horrible job with broadcasting. I can't stand their pre-game shows or halftime.
@@1RicoStunna truth. Espn has the most corniest pregame and halftime shows ever. NBA showtime was the shit back in the 90s.
@@1RicoStunnadah dah da dah dah dahhhh dah dah dah dah dah
...dahhh dahhhh dah dah Da! DA! da da dah da dah dah dahhhhh dah da......da da da da da DAHHHH! (I'm trying to sing the classic theme music 🎶) nbA on nbc
And that all time great music they had. Oddly enough I believe I heard it on a Fox sports network the other day which was weird.
@@bigsnap5I miss NBA showtime with Hannah storm, Quinn Buckner, Bob costas, and Peter vescey
This is why he sold , he knows the next tv deal is bad 😂
Blame ESPN, today’s entitled young players, and the game itself
Super important conversation
We are lucky to have Mark share his thoughts. Different billionaire who loves basketball
Looks like he indulges for sure 😂😎👌🏽
Mark Cuban is so high 👀 😂
Sometimes accepting the highest bidder isn't always the best option.
The fact that u need music to hype people up in the nba is crazy
NFL already going this route -RUclips got the ticket, Amazon gots TNF -heck overseas NFL viewing is 100% streaming.
Next time y'all have an owner on, put their ass on the spot and ask them why the referee's aren't full time employees that are required to meet a certain standard, and held accountable to said standard in fear of losing employment. Y'all gotta take the chance to plant those seeds when you can. I aint trying to hear a billionaire talk about making more money that they'll never spend, especially when said money could literally fix the blatant officiating problem.
Listen to The Whistleblower podcast. Not only will it answer your questions, but you’ll also learn that Mark Cuban has been sticking it to referees for decades. Refs hate Mark Cuban, they now have to spend 2 additional hours after games doing their reporting and Mark Cuban was the one behind it. I understand your frustration and if this was any other owner I’d agree with you. But Mark Cuban has been the only owner who has actually pushed for change, and he’s paid millions of dollars in fines by the league for speaking out about the officiating issues publicly.
Lol are you slow? The referees are not employed by the NBA or Owners. Theyre a separate party and have their own union. And yes refs performances are graded throughout the year by the NBA and the best performing refs get to ref in the playoffs. You idiots think sport leagues higher personal refs or something.
Hilariously casual
@@zeus4885 Thanks, I'll check that out. That being said, they still should have asked. The more people asking him about making the refs official employees will lead to the idea actually picking up more steam.
I've been watching the NBA for 33 years. I'll break it down for you from what I've seen. Pre 98 the NBA had the best refs in the game. You would seem them blow a call, watch the slo mo replay and then think: "Damn, how did they even see that?" First lockout hits in 99 when Jordan reties. The star of the league, the man who took it to it's pinnacle and is possibly the GOAT retires and on top of that we have a lockout. Then throw in that there isn't a clear cut star to take up the mantle. Shaq was supposed to be the guy but the Lakers couldn't even get to the finals. Once the lockout came to an end and they negotiated a short season all of the reporters who talked to their sources mentioned that the NBA was terrified about lost revenue because they were afraid that with Jordan gone and the lockout that all of their fair weather fans would disappear.
The NBA decided to start using the referee's to steer the outcomes of games. It was at that point that the officiating started to go downhill. The ref's were used to try and keep games tight so that we can have these artificially manufactured "exciting finishes". What the NBA didn't recognize is that Jordan didn't bring fair weather fans into the game. People who became NBA fans in the 90's, actually fell in love with the game. Instead of viewership numbers being down with Jordan gone, the numbers were up. This was the crucial fork in the road turning point moment for the NBA right here. The commissioner could have realized that what they were doing with the officials was unnecessary and just continued to let the players and coaches determine the outcomes of games. Obviously that never happened. From that point on we have seen terrible officiating in games, playoff series extended as far as they can be by using bad calls to swing the outcomes of games (2002 Kings VS Lakers series was the most obvious). The reason for that being is that players get paid over the course of the regular season. When the playoffs hit every player gets a one time check (55k IIRC) and every playoff game is pure profit. The more playoff games that we have, the more money there is for the owners and for the league office because of advertising on TV games.
Enter Tim Donaghy. First of all (and I will try to keep this brief because it's deep with a lot of evidence) Donaghy was not a rogue official, and was the fall guy offered up to the FBI by everyone inside the NBA that was interviewed by the FBI. Everyone pointed at Donaghy and said he was a rogue official. The initial investigation was focused on a mobster. The FBI got him on wiretaps talking about senior referee Joey Crawford fixing games and Crawford went to high school with this mobster. If you want to know more, the Netflix documentary goes further into it. The doc is called Untold: Operation Flagrant Foul. But the Crawford connection isn't in it, and the Bob Delaney connection is also missing. If you want to hear about that, hit me up.
With all of the backstory out of the way for context; the senior refs who run the crews and make the decisions that the other refs can't overturn, are the ones who have been in charge of fixing and influencing games. When they saw that the NBA doesn't really care about them being accurate and was using them to fix games, some of them thought to themselves: "Why not make a little extra cash on the side?" That's how the betting started. They never thought that the FBI would find out, and certainly the commissioner wasn't going to fire these refs if he noticed something. If one of these refs got fired for betting, they would do exactly what Donaghy did; write a book and expose the whole thing. That is why these refs are not held accountable and don't get fired. They are still used to this day to influence the outcome of games. The NBA isn't a sport anymore. It's sports entertainment. It's the WWE of what used to be the real sport of basketball, and the referees hold the commissioner's dirty little secret over his head and have a free pass to do whatever they want because of it. Just look at Scott Foster and Chris Paul. Foster has been doing whatever he wants to do to Chris Paul for years and the commissioner will sit back with his mouth shut.
@@Bask3tChase Also, I just found an interview on Vladtv from 3 weeks ago where he sat down with Tim Donaghy. That also explains a lot.
I hope NBC get the nba back
Same here and I’m confident that it’ll happen because us basketball fans deserve to see better broadcasting and commentary stick to talking about the game.
Yes, espn has horrible commentary
@@dagobert1234321Mike Breen is the best
I hope NBC gets it back cuz ESPN and ABC is complete garbage
NBC is going to be part of the NBA package most likely. It’s just the matter of when they are going to officially announce it. NBC will televise more teams and mostly importantly star players besides the Lakers and Warriors all the damn time. Announcers will only talk about the game, the game plan and not about the players personal shit. Story intros are gonna be different in a modern way.
That's why Mark Sold Majority Stake!!
And now it’s been announced that he’s entered an agreement to sell the majority stake in the Mavs
The NBA is on TV?
I wonder if they can have multiple camera options per game so you can choose your own adventure
I think the nba missed the mark on the in season tournament. It was rushed and not marketed properly. Many players don't even understand the tournament. One player just knows that when the court is different, it's a tournament game and knows nothing else. American sports culture is different from that in Europe and the format they are employing does not do anything for the fan experience.
Yep!! This would have been a great idea. Before Isiah killed the CBA. Sure the NBA teams would win. Maybe even college. This inseason tournament is sad.
the winner is still youtube, they earn more than any TV networks
Coming back and watching this after he sold the team. SMH. Please don’t Mark we love you. MFFL is for life.
The NBA will get more viewers and revenue if they offered more affordable options for their league pass. I only wanted to watch my local team but it was more expensive than league pass premium, doesn't make sense. So instead of offering me a monthly subscription for my local team for the rest of the season, I just found a stream. 🤷
I just wanna see the NBA returning to NBC again
Next time you get someone big on, ask em about the garbage refs
Old head players don’t like the in season tournament. It’s called Evolution
They should of done this 20 years ago
Old head here. I love it.
I’m 32 years old and I hate the in season tournament
"old heads" means this guy was born in the late 2000s and hasn't been alive long enough to know anything about evolution.
If you look at the media company, let’s say Disney, they’re starting to lose money on these licensing deals. On top of that, Disney got some liquidity problems and low on cash…these sports teams have sucked so much cash out of these media companies that Marc knows that shit will hit the fan. NBA players making $50m a year is not normal and it’ll come to an end. That’s why he is selling out. So did MJ.
NBA product all together has been shitty for a decade
Horrible take
@@dreamcage1801 NBA has never been stronger what are you even saying.
Tldr : he doesn't know
everything is about MONEY for this guy. what about the game? he's talking about the benefits of the in-season tournament "bringing in advertisers" - yeah THATS what we need more advertising....
Yeah and it helped him become a billionaire
I had the same reaction when he said advertisers. Even thought it’s better than I thought it was going to be. I still hate seeing those companies on NBA jerseys. It is the essence of selling your souls for me. I’m sure advertisers have brought that idea up to the NFL. I’m sure that conversation was very brief.
Capitalist wants to acquire more capital in a capitalist nation. Shocker. What about the game? The game has only been pushed so far because of the money.
@@CerebralBuckets yeah, HIM, it didn't help you. Him and Adam Silver are trying to take more of your attention and more of your money and apparently you love them for it.
His fast talking makes more sense now knowing he was negotiating selling his majority stake in the Mavs the whole time. I bet you the next interview he'll be more candid on the NBA turning into a crap product.
American products are shitty because they are lazy and cheap
😂😂
People on her just be talking without doing any research,Mark Cuban for years has been talking about getting a new arena in dallas that has gambling...gambling is illegal in texas,so he teamed up with the largest gambling and resorts conglomerate in the US...if they ever are successful in lobbying the republicans there to legalise gambling, the new owners would then build the new arena...not only will the arena pay for itself in the longrun with people gambling there,the value of the franchise will probably have nearly double...the 20/25% stake he still has is going to be worth alot more
Mark just wants to increase the overall revenue for everyone involved in the franchise
As a fan im tired of nba games its always the last minute so I dont bet on Nba teams they can be up 20 the other team does a 30,-0 run like the Mavs do so.why watch it ?. In the 80s they blew out the teams and then that was a sure win
Pure basketball fans are being turned off by the meddling of the nba via the refs with constant rule changes. You can even compare one year to the next because every year the rules change. Keep the refs out of the game. The integrity of the game is being impacted.
Mark, you can talk as fast as you like. Young ppl, who follow your sport on social media, are NOT goiing to pay for it by itself. They'll bootleg it, watch highlights on RUclips and Twitter, or they'll move on to things like AI. Your next NBA TV deal, will be your last one. Oh, and team values are going to drop faster than you think.
Top 4 major leagues are entering the streaming service
Think thats what hes saying, NBA should make deals with Twitter and RUclips, did you miss his point?
@@hntrsclub Are you suggesting that I am stupid?
@@jamesbingham1007 Suggesting you rewatch, I dont do the name calling. But its the internet I can see where you may have seen the implication.
Cuban also said in 2013 the NBA viewership will outnumber the NFL in 8 years. Lmao
It does the NBA is global the NFL is American
It does lol
lol it doesn’t, not enough close
@@caribbeanradiology7004 you're massively uninformed
@@IamnotJokicYou realize nfl season is 16 games vs 82 for NBA right?
Mark Cuban need to take a nap
Owners and sports players become greedy. Owners are evil .. players to greedy .. greed killing everything
Players aren't greedy. There is no money for anyone without the players. People would pay to see them play at a fucking neighbourhood park, they deserve the majority of the money. Frankly, we don't need owners like Cuban at all, we could have fan-owned teams like they have in soccer.
@@pex3 what team owned by fans !!
Greed leads to fraud, money laundering and grand theft
@@pex3I say this to people all the time. Owners are not important it’s about the players. People will watch them play anywhere.
@@gamingworld_n1 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fan-owned_sports_teams
There will be a league contraction before another expansion happens.
New tv deal won’t be a good deal than before
Man sold his stake.
herein lies the problem. it boils down to money. a participation trophy tournament that means nothing was implemented quick while they drag their feet on fixing real issues that has those "older fans" not caring about the game any more
Flopping, refs, no big men, chucking 3s.... its like a circus sometimes and it gets boring. No strategy or thought, just chuck 40 three pointers a game and call a bunch of ticky tack fouls one way so you can artifically manufacture comebacks to brag about fake "best players in the nba" is over the airwaves
100 percent.
$500k each to the winner is more than a participation trophy
@@lakersin556 LOL yeah. That's what the fans want to see. A tournament that is on and off again for weeks and is basically just the regular season with a few games a week that have jank ass court graphics, and at the end, some millionaires get some more money and a meaningless trophy. No fan gives a shit. We want to see the officiating get fixed.
"no big men, chucking 3s"
you clearly have no idea wtf you're watching.
I agree on the refs and ticky tack fouls though. It's why FIBA ball is way better to watch cuz the refs don't gaf about star players
"no big men, chucking threes" is wild to say. Have you even watched a game since 2010? Ok, they shoot more threes, but thats because everyone is a better shooter now. But the top 3 out of 5 players in the league are big men, so wtf are you talking about?
Football, not soccer
Streaming will kill the nba… Live sports on cable is always better
Not with blackouts. Copying the MLS deal would be ideal. Everything in one place. No blackouts. That’s what we need. Can’t even watch teams near me anymore. I’m 1.5hours from Detroit and Columbus. 2.5hours from Cincy and Cleveland. I can’t watch any “local” games for baseball, basketball nhl without Bally’s so I just don’t watch them anymore even though I’m not actually local to any of those teams. It’s ridiculous how large the blackout regions are.
@@jgonscable is dying all together
@@dreamcage1801 unfortunately sports will keep it alive for quite a while because of some of these types of contracts.
You gotta ask him about the prices. I can fly to Sacramento or Phoenix and watch the Lakers for cheaper than I could at Staples Center. I don't want to spend more than $400 to take my friends and family to the game. Now it's getting to where I get turned off just by looking at the prices and to get good seats I have to spend stacks and racks. How come only rich people get to experience it?
ESPN is so dumb with how it markets the NBA. It puts baseball and football over Basketball. So I hope another network that doesn't do football or baseball gets the next deal. All ESPN does is argue about stupid who's the GOAT and dump negatively about the game. They don't show enough highlights or break down the game during the game. Their analysts like to overcommunincate and take up space. I just need people that know the game and understands the game and isn't afraid to report on bad calls or some of the things they overheard on the court.
NBC has to get the NBA rights again
The NBA product is not as good as. Who ever gets the games better get a discount…
I don’t think sports in general will be profitable in the future. Those huge Tv and steamers deal are over. Baseball it’s an perfect indicator of where sports are going. Basketball and football will have a small group of fans. Not like it been. It’s not barbershop talk anymore. If you go streamer it’s going to individual seeing. So it’s not going to be like a appointment watch. Sports is going to die in 2 generations.
Woah hey hold up sports will never die. It’s gonna pass up the torch and evolve.
Nba is dying college football and nfl is king
American basketball players are mostly coddled, entitled, nomads, and undisciplined nowadays.
What? The game is growing internationally
@@dagobert1234321 look at the tv ratings they lost 50 percent viewership and the nfl is gonna take Europe in 10 years
The NBA died in June 2002.
Game 4 Lakers Nets. Last Game on NBC. I remember watching the montage at the end of the game lol. IMO It died when KD joined GS & the whole league began jacking up 3's from all over the court smh
@@jaranameer2882players today don’t care about the game and only their brand
NBA is trash.