Taize & Ecumenism

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  • Опубликовано: 13 апр 2014
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    Questions and Answers with Father Gruner
    YQA 084

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  • @themousepolice
    @themousepolice 5 лет назад +4

    I’m currently reading AA-1025 Memoirs of the Communist Infiltration Into the Catholic Church. I recommend if any of you haven’t read it yet, please do. Here is a quote that rings oh so true:
    “No, the very holy virtue of obedience is today the extremely powerful weapon that our enemies, who pretend to be our friends, make use of against what we were, to put up in its stead, what they have decided to have us become.
    In short, this word “become” can be described, because it is known; it already has four centuries of existence, and it is called Protestantism.
    There it is: we are invited bit by bit, little obedience by little obedience, from false humility to false remorse, from deceitful charity to deceptive ambiguity, from words disguised as a double-edged word, of which “yes” is “no” and “no” is “yes” - we are invited I say to pretend to remain good Catholics all the while becoming perfect Protestants.”
    If you want to know what has been happening to Our One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, I encourage you all to read this book along with Bella Dodd’s School of Darkness; they are both in print but you can find them as PDFs online.
    I also encourage you to pray the Rosary daily, along with the Prayer of Saint Michael. We are in a Spiritual War and we, the Church Militant, need to get back to our roots. Attend Mass, receive the Sacraments, pray with all your might because Our Faith has been and continues to be diluted in order to destroy it. It’s up to us to fight the good fight, persevere and preserve the Faith:
    Luke 18: 7And will not God revenge his elect who cry to him day and night: and will he have patience in their regard? 8I say to you, that he will quickly revenge them. But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?
    God bless.

  • @IvanAgram
    @IvanAgram Месяц назад

    As a Protestant I thank you for saying what is truth what your non-biblical church thinks of us. Many of us are being fooled by Romanist pretending and are attracted like moths to false light.

  • @debralittle1341
    @debralittle1341 Год назад +2

    Thank you. This is what I wanted to know. Other videos only tell us about them and what they do. I wanted to know if this is safe or if it's better to stay away. Father Gruner is very wise.

  • @BarbaraJohnson-fb3qr
    @BarbaraJohnson-fb3qr 6 лет назад +1

    I agree with comments made but there is nothing wrong with the beautiful chants which are a form of prayer and praise to God and I use them everyday and as far as I am concerned Jesus seems to like them.

    • @SeanChitty84
      @SeanChitty84 6 лет назад +1

      Barbara Johnson I would give these prayers and chants a REDLIGHT, since their source come from spirit of False Ecumenism which is a direct attack on the First Commandment and affront to the One Holy True Catholic Religion. A blessed Feast , Veni Sancte Spirits!

    • @lucillejerome5511
      @lucillejerome5511 4 месяца назад

      @@SeanChitty84 Not so! The chant is beautiful. Have you not heard "Stay with Me" for example?

  • @murrax7639
    @murrax7639 4 года назад

    Hello Fatima Center, I realize I am late to this video but I have a question I was hoping you could answer. I know it's a sin to pray with heretics in public by participating in their rites, but what about saying grace before meals with Protestants/private prayer? Is it okay to have small prayers like that seeing how I am the only Catholic in my entire family? I haven't found an answer to this question definitively anywhere. Thanks so much.

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  4 года назад +2

      To pray before meals with your family members would be fine unless the prayer itself expresses a theological error or is in some way distinctly Protestant (such as the "For Thine is the Kingdom..." sequence after the Our Father). It would be sinful to gather with non-Catholics for purposes of prayer or Bible study, even if not part of a church's public liturgical rites of worship, but except as noted above there is no scandal or appearance of sectarianism given by joining in private prayer with non-Catholics in non-sectarian gatherings (such as gathering as a family for a meal).
      You can find a summary of official Church pronouncements on this subject here:
      www.latinmassmagazine.com/articles/articles_2006_AC_Allan.html

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  3 года назад

      @Sophia G. Thank you for your comment. That may be the least of the scandalous errors into which the faithful of Germany are being led by their Novus Ordo pastors. We urge you to find a traditional rite Mass. God bless you.
      sspx.org/en/mass-locator
      www.latinmassdir.org/

  • @rubenzapata3927
    @rubenzapata3927 3 года назад +1

    This does not refer to Taize in particular, but this has to do with ecumenism in general.
    Aztec dancing is a family tradition for me. Usually, we perform Aztec dance whenever there are public celebrations of Our Lady of Guadalupe or other public festivities. However, our performances are depicted as a religious ceremony, using Catholic as well as Aztec imagery. Furthermore, some of our dances are named after Aztec gods, such as Texcatlipoca and Tonantzin. Also, many of our costumes depict the heads of Aztec gods and goddesses and other Aztec imagery. Is this sinful? If so, what must my family and I do?
    God bless Fr. Gruner and the Fatima Center🙏

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  3 года назад +2

      Thank you for this important question. You must have no more part in any such activities which clearly honor and invoke pagan gods (devils!). You would also do well to confess past practices of this sort and to ask a priest to pray prayers of exorcism over you. God bless you.

    • @rubenzapata3927
      @rubenzapata3927 3 года назад

      @@TheFatimaCenter Thank you so much. I also want to ask another question: My father, who leads my family in Aztec dancing, tells us that when we dance, we should think about giving honor to Our Lady and worship to Our Lord Jesus Christ. Despite my father's intentions, is this still false worship to Our Blessed Lord and a mockery to Our Lady?
      God bless Fr. Gruner and his apostolate🙏

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  3 года назад +1

      @@rubenzapata3927 You can be sure that in calling upon demons by name, and using dance rituals which are recognizable as being historically associated with devil-worship, you give no honor to Our Lord and Our Lady. God bless you.

  • @jimt1380
    @jimt1380 10 лет назад +9

    The Catholic church has turned into a cafeteria style religion. Very little acknowledgment of sin, you simply don't believe in this part or that part and you are absolved of sin. Or the other good line, "who am I to judge", as if you are judging the person, rather than the sin. The human person is always acceptable, it is the sin that can not be accepted, and this fact has already been made crystal clear in the word of the supreme judge.

    • @SeanChitty84
      @SeanChitty84 6 лет назад +2

      Jim T you mean the Conciliar Church or the the 'Church of the New Advent' as Pope JP2 affectionately calls it. Yuck. We must pray for those poor souls for their conversion. Prayer and Penance for the Consecration of Russia!!!

  • @SeanChitty84
    @SeanChitty84 6 лет назад +5

    Consecrate Russia Now!!!

  • @clarekuehn4372
    @clarekuehn4372 Год назад +2

    Many people now are saying there is no substantial difference or difference in dogma. They are so far deceived.

  • @lynbrown4054
    @lynbrown4054 6 лет назад

    Our Catholic Church has a Tazie prayer service at our church. Is it ok to Go?

    • @TheFatimaCenter
      @TheFatimaCenter  6 лет назад +3

      No. archive.fatima.org/perspectives/ef/perspective505.asp

    • @joshuaknight2019
      @joshuaknight2019 6 лет назад +2

      Yes Absolutely. Traditionalists will disagree perhaps, however the Taize community has been praised by the last 3 popes.

    • @themousepolice
      @themousepolice 5 лет назад +1

      It’s protestants playing at being Catholic:
      “ A Taizé worship service involves sung and chanted prayers, meditation, a period of silence, liturgical readings, and icons. There is no preaching. The prayers consist of “short chants, repeated again and again,” according to an introduction in a Taizé songbook. “The words are sung over many times.”
      Our Church runs Alpha which is protestant as well...it’s ridiculous!
      No wonder people are confused. Don’t go...go to Mass, receive the Sacraments and read the Holy Bible instead of going to Taizé. God Bless.

    • @silvermystic2001
      @silvermystic2001 5 месяцев назад

      Oh totally and the last fake popes have done horrible things but it's ok bc they can do no wrong catholics say. Smh

    • @lucillejerome5511
      @lucillejerome5511 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TheFatimaCenter I'm stunned by your answer! By what authority do you tell the Catholic Church what to do? None of our dogma has been changed. Our catechism has not changed.

  • @lds-lab.divulgazionescient3335
    @lds-lab.divulgazionescient3335 9 лет назад +4

    I have some doubts these 2 guys are really catholics. Or they are just in the wrong century.

    • @st.jerome384
      @st.jerome384 9 лет назад +3

      Im no SSPX but these men are very catholic. They are fighting the modernism that has entered into the church! It must be stopped. These men are reiterating always held catholic belief. I may not agree with everything they ssay but they are spot on in their mission. Your comment about wrong century is troubeling. We are not to change our faith with the times. This is dangerous. Look at the statistics. Pre VATII we had hundereds of thousands of priests and religious in the USA. After it droped in many areas by 70% or more. It remains this way to this day! Most Catholics dont know their faith and upwards of 70% of younger Catholics dont believe in the real presence. An even greater percentage of baptized catholics leave the church. This isnt a sign of get with the times. It was precisley getting with the times that caused this mess and the many rifts inside the church that we are seeing. Remain Catholic and always stay as orthodox as possible.

    • @lds-lab.divulgazionescient3335
      @lds-lab.divulgazionescient3335 9 лет назад +1

      St. Jerome "The second is equally important: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' No other commandment is greater than these." This concept should stay crystalline in catholics minds indipendently from being "modernist" or "conservative". We willl be judged on how much we loved and not on how much catholics we were. Drops in clerical vocations are certainly not due to ecumenism, which is a gift from God, but rather to the anteposition of forms respect to substance. Diversity is a blessing of God, Division is Evil.

    • @st.jerome384
      @st.jerome384 9 лет назад +4

      Is loving thy neighbor teaching them error? Is loving they neighbor leading them away from the faith? Or condoning cafeteria Catholicism? Or just not saying anything at all? When these things begin to be tied to charity and thinking those who wish to fix these things are being uncharitable or unloving is the devils greatest victory.

    • @lds-lab.divulgazionescient3335
      @lds-lab.divulgazionescient3335 9 лет назад

      St. Jerome Why you are so scared of the devil? Don't you know he is destinated to lose? St. Augustin said "Love, and do what you want", which doesn't mean you don't have to care of anything. It means that if you truly love, all your possible mistakes are forgiven. "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you shut off the kingdom of heaven from people; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in."

    • @st.jerome384
      @st.jerome384 9 лет назад +1

      You must have missed the doctrine of the few that are saved. You might want to start reading more into the doctors and Saints of the church. It's a pretty bleak outlook look for all of us.

  • @jimt1380
    @jimt1380 10 лет назад +1

    Seems like our popes have been doing this publicly since Vatican ll?

  • @jimt1380
    @jimt1380 10 лет назад +4

    No Rosary, don't go there.