DB heroes has a lot of flaws, but I still love it for a few reasons: obviously for the new transformations and character designs, the goku vs hearts fight is incredible and heroes gave Yamcha a girlfriend.
now that you've mentioned it the evil saiyan is also mentioned in dragonball legends saying its the evil saiyans that defeated the saiyan gods,i guess that's why cumber was surprised when he saw goku turned super saiyan god he might be somehow related to yamoshi the first super saiyan god shallot and giblet being the descendants of saiyan gods while goku and vegeta being descendants of the evil saiyans, explaining their nature of being a warrior
I think they played well with "controlled berserker states" because they choose the EXACT RIGHT and perfect character, that being Vegeta. In my opinion thats because (Back in oldschool Dragon Ball Z) Vegeta was able to control his Ape form and in buu saga with babidis potential unlock and control.
Personally I wish the Full Power Rosè form was actually Mastered Super Saiyan Rosè 3 since it would prove that it is indeed possible to master SSJ3 and that it's not a worthless transformation.
Full Power Rose is clearly an Artificial Form created by the Mask as Black loses it the moment the Mask fully breaks So it would still not be Mastered Super Saiyan 3
Cumber has mastered ssj3 its called full power ssj3 or ssj3 full power ( I can't remember which one it is, tell me if you find out) theory: ssj3 can be mastered but a saiyan needs to posses a tail at the same time when they go ssj3 ( they also need to buff up their body in order to contain the power of ssj3 just to mitigate the energy drain of ssj3, basically ssj3 is having too small of a container for a given volume of water / ki and you need to increase the size of the container so it can hold that given volume of water )
Goku's Universal Super Saiyan Blue form in the manga also has one additional power, since it seem fusing with the tree also gave Goku access to Tokitoki's power(which we can see from the blue wings in his aura that match Fu's purple aura wings after he fused with Dogidogi). That way Goku can match the massive power boosts Fu got from fusing with a time bird and absorbing energy from the universe tree
It was noted that Cumber KNEW Yamoshi back in the past in the early life of the first saiyan generation. Because both of them used to be comrades and saiyans rivals. Due to cumbers nature and backstory: His Ki turned out to be abnormal due to a disease that he was birthed with and with that, he infected saiyans who were near him or at least, came into physical contact with his aura only to be turned into a "berserked-state-like saiyan." Over time in his life, his aura spreaded like an actual virus while being left alone longer and kept on the planet for too long which can spread to a small island to a planetary level within months. most of all, the disease makes him beserk everytime he wants to fight and in battle too. while he fights, he grows stronger along with his abnormal ki level of growth.
@@henryriasco5857 Yamoshi is a thing but this guy just made shit up Cumber has no lore except that he might have fought the original super saiyan god and that's it
At the end of the fight with Fu where Vegeta gets banished I seriously thought I was about to see the rare legendary ultra Goku, otherwise known a Gogokuku... just Goku fused with Goku. XD
It honestly doesn't make sense how Goku was corrupted by Dark Ki due to him being pure of heart and not being affected by the Devilmite beam, but this is Heroes, after all. It would've been cool to see Goku fight a berserk Vegeta and him possibly having to use Blue Kaioken to stop him.
The Devilmite Beam doesn't generate Evil in People's Hearts But only expand the one already present Where Dark Ki is it itself that's the Evil that take control of People's Mind So it doesn't make sense to use the Devilmite as an example as the two work completely different
Unlike the Majin mark, you don't need to be evil to be possesed by the corrupted dark ki. The dark ki is like a virus, no matter how pure you are you will still be possesed. Vegeta was only able to overcome the possesion by holding his pride and accepting his inner evilness.
The parallelism between the two tecqniques d'ont make much sense, the akkumite beam dont corrupt the person' spirit and power but just use the evil in someone heart while Kamba and Turles just put evil aura in their target and also like others abilities the gap or power das not help
Ah so that's what that form is! I didn't rightfully know what was going on with Turles, I hadn't thought of Cumber being a saiyan form. I thought that was simply his base.
A lot of peoples hate heroes because there is a lot of flaws like Power Scale seriously just take Cumber he became super weak for reason but I love it because it use some uncharted part of the DB mythology SUCH AS DEMONS SERIOUSLY EXCEPT DABRA WE KNOW SO FEW THINGS ABOUT THEM
No it's just SS4, but the User is filled to the Brim with Saiya Power aka Saiyan-Ki Basically every cell in their Body is Overcharged with Ki (similar to the Super Full Power Saiyan 4 state Goku used against Omega Shenron, but Overcharged)
DBXV3 better give us SS4 Super Saiya-Jin 4: 3 Ki = SS4 (Super Saiyan 4), 4 Ki = FP4 (Full Power 4), 5 Ki and more = LB4 (Limit Breaker 4), basically gives the User SS4, SS4 Hair of the Hair the user has (except Long Yamcha Hair, since it already looks like a SS4 Hairstyle) and the Hair becomes Black Super Kaio-Ken 4: 3 Ki = SS4 (this SS4 makes us look more like Gogeta's SS4, but we get the Option to have our Base Hair Color or the Red Hair Color, Gogeta has, but we basically get Gogeta's Hair and Colors for SS4, including the Black eye fur and darker Fur on the Body), 4 Ki or More = SK4 (Super Saiyan 4 with Kaio-Ken like Xeno Gogeta used) Super Full Power Saiya-Jin 4: 3 Ki or more = SS4 Limit Breaker, basically we look like Limit Breaker 4 Gogeta does (yes the name is the one of the inbetween states of SS4 and LB4, but hey it would be Cooler that way)
Earlier in dragon ball z, a form used to be distinct such as a super Saiyan. Frieza had forms, it was induced in the story as a suspence and written well like no other story before this over surprise element was that of zarbons disclosure of frieza's forms. Later in the series after cell games super Saiyan form was redundant with goten and trunks, and in dbs once the blue forms caught up with audience. A lot of forms were made to be commercialized. This saturated the story. I would say after super Saiyan the white hair ultra blue form has space to built upon. It's more powerful than destroyers etc. I know one old DBZ fan who even commented 'how did everyone become powerful than broly'. It was funny to think. about it later.
Black Frieza is more than likely stronger than broly now it's always up for debate ultra ego and MUI could be stronger than broly at the end of the granola arc
@@rushpatriot2866 it’s actually fairly concrete that Goku and Vegeta at the start of the Granolah arc are stronger than Broly and you can argue ToP Goku is stronger than Broly. Bare minimum Frieza is though
DBZ had a good story and build up, up to the cell saga. After Cell, everything lost meaning. SS1 was shit as well as SS2. SSJ3 was missused and quickly outclassed by Ultimate gohan, and Gohan's new form was relevant for 1 fight had that like 5 episodes or less. DBS super is the buu saga but way worse. The writing is bad, the forms are bad except U.I. ( ego sucks, the design is way too goofy. Just look at vegeta expresions when surprised or getting hit) Other than that dbs story is crap. As long as Goku is friends with the gods, no villain will have this threat factor that thr big 3 had in dbz
I don't give a shit how many flaws Heroes has from a serious story telling perspective it's quite possibly the only form of DB medium that exists that I genuinely enjoy. DBS just doesn't hit for me, and I find the concepts of Heroes and its story beats to be vastly more entertaining than anything Super has done since BoG. Cumber's backstory and lore alone has more depth than 85% of Super's entire run time which is laughable.
No. The strongest character on screen is end of gt goku who trained for 100 years after omega shenron died and whatever magic boost shenron gave him by fusing with him. Then dragonball online goku who’s 100 years after end of z. Obviously weaker then end of gt goku who’s older and trained more and such. They make Zeno look like mercenary tao!
@@fridaynightnicktoons6885 End of GT Goku has no feats and is more Overrated than God Fusion Gokou (also Dragon Balls cannot make someone stronger than a God, it was established in Granolah's Arc) Dragon Ball Online Goku is dead At the Age of 60-70 him and Vegeta left Earth to have one last fight and then Capsule Corp found a Super Nova that they believe being the Conclusion of that fight (there's no Online Goku that trained for 100 Years) Also Online doesn't have SsjGod or Blue (as they where yet to be created when Online Closed its servers) The Strongest Goku is Dragon Ball Fusion Goku Being the Only Goku to have a Win against Beerus (and with Normal Super Saiyan Blue & can use Ultra Instinct without consuming energy and being oh no, I am out of energy, I am dead)
bro imagine a Controlled Berserk Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3 Evolved Majin Goku Black Kioken x20 Dark Dragon Ball Boost Mastered Ultra Instinct it sounds rediculous but its theoretically possible within the DBH continuity
so hey can someone answer me, how much of this is anime and how much is from games? I know it's primarily an arcade game in Japan, but then there's an anime that starts from Prison Planet and Cumber... yet, despite that, there's this demon realm arc animation? Am I missing something?
Bro just said so many words so fast, why are these forms names so long like: Limit breaker ultra full power super saiyan 4 and controlled berserker super saiyan blue state?
So Heroes Scales Gogeta Blue above Jiren huh? Interesting. Also I didn’t know that Vegeta’s Corrupted Blue form was on Par with Goku’s MUI, or at least it seems treated that way.
I don't trust the word spoken, but when defeated by Blue Gogeta, Hearts says "you could overcome Zen-O with that power." Honestly, seeing Jiren react to fusion is also one huge fan service moment hahaha
Limit breaker ssj4 has God ki and I believe ssb vegito new form was a mix of ultra instinct and super saiyan blue or some have even said a mix of ultra instinct and super saiyan blue evolved. I don't think just super saiyan blue evolved vegito could beat full power ssj3 rose without the mix of UI *edit I mean gogeta don't know why I put vegito
LB4 has No God-Ki, it's just that every cell within their Body is Overcharged and filled to the brim with Saiya Power aka Saiyan Ki Gogeta's Form is just SSBlue Evolution, the Anime and OVA Trailer for the Game, just simply choose a new Design, but in Manga and Game he looks like normal Blue Evolution
SSRosé Full Power is NOT SSRosé 3 Black's Full Power Form is what Toriyama said happens when a SSJ is vomoletly Mastered and surpasses the Power of SS2 and SS3
I might have missed it but did he say he wasn’t going to mention absorption forms for characters? Because a lot of characters have original absorption forms in the game
Just want to SAY THAT SSJ3 ROSE DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING !! IF HE IS ROSE INSTEAD OF BLUE ITS JUST BECAUSE OF HIS GOD KAIOSHIN KI THATS IT !! Yes SsJB is the Super Saiyajin state of the God Form so technically you could mix SSJ3 and God Ki to obtain this form BUT FOR NOW ITS JUST NON SENSE !! It’s like Golden Metal Cooler technically possible but non-sens
@@davixn It doesn’t explain the silver and yellow ethereal glow we see from Gogeta tho. UI has to be in the mix otherwise where the hell did that thing come from?
@@rainer999 🤷🏽♂️. I don’t really know, If anything I don’t think it would be UI although. SDBH does a lot of weird stuff and that’s probably just part of it. Hopefully we get an actual canon SSJBE Gogeta when the anime comes back and we can actually learn what the white aura is.
It's just for esthetic. In the game and cards looks like more the classic ssj blue evo. Also if they want to combine ui and others forms as in the dbs manga (but it's early in my opinion) they should do nothing couse a combination for now doesn't change anything or give any power up
You’ll enjoy and appreciate all Dragon Ball stories much more because you look at them as different “timelines” or continuities rather than cast out 90% of Dragon Ball because it isn’t pure enough for you.
Wouldn't exactly call Limit Breaker a Heroes exclusive form, Goku does the same thing twice in GT. Heroes just modernized it and made it look more flashy.
@@legendarylimits564 No they aren't? Goku collected energy from other saiyans not once but twice during GT. Limit Breaker is the exact same thing except modernized, it is no way a new concept. Goku even had the red glow during the time he did it in the Baby Saga. Before "Limit Breaker" its still called Super Full Power Saiyan 4, the same exact name from the Baby Saga. Super Saiyan 4 has always been capable of doing this, Heroes just brought it back.
@@OmegaTheMyth Its a separate form due to the inclusion of God Ki, its been described and shown as a separate form several times. This is easily the worst fallacy I've seen from someone in the Fandom.
@@legendarylimits564 Limit Breaker does not require god ki. You LITERALLY have Limit Breaker Z Broly in your picture, a character that uses Limit Breaker without anyone's help and without the use of god ki. Vegito and Gogeta have both done the same in Heroes. My explanation is not a fallacy because it is literally based on factual instances of this same concept being used in GT, YOUR argument is hilariously fallacious because it is never stated god ki is required and is as I've already explained contradicted. Love Dragon Ball nerds who watch some power scaler or debater use the word fallacy and blindly add it to their vocabulary as if they have the slightest clue what it even means.
That's pretty much how the franchise works. The DB Heroes anime and manga are just two of many official continuities of Dragon Ball. In it, they combined and expand on content from other continuities.
DB heroes has a lot of flaws, but I still love it for a few reasons: obviously for the new transformations and character designs, the goku vs hearts fight is incredible and heroes gave Yamcha a girlfriend.
Their showing off what the character could do before the arcade mission starts there are no flaws to it
Huh, I didn’t know that Frieza had transitioned! Good for her!
Edit: Bruh ppl really don’t know the Frieza X Yamcha joke, how sad for them.
@@TheUnoriginalDrCorgi Huh?
Wooosh mf
@@TheUnoriginalDrCorgi Freezas race is only boys
now that you've mentioned it
the evil saiyan is also mentioned in dragonball legends saying its the evil saiyans that defeated the saiyan gods,i guess that's why cumber was surprised when he saw goku turned super saiyan god he might be somehow related to yamoshi the first super saiyan god
shallot and giblet being the descendants of saiyan gods while
goku and vegeta being descendants of the evil saiyans, explaining their nature of being a warrior
That’s a good point
Quite good theory
I think they played well with "controlled berserker states" because they choose the EXACT RIGHT and perfect character, that being Vegeta. In my opinion thats because (Back in oldschool Dragon Ball Z) Vegeta was able to control his Ape form and in buu saga with babidis potential unlock and control.
I thought that was really good character development for Vegeta on Heroes' part. They also finally gave Trunks a chance to shine.
@@hokagegaming9725 Yeah im glad they didn't just abused SS Rage and gave him God form
True
Might be
Your only youtuber that actually takes about sdbh thank you!
Personally I wish the Full Power Rosè form was actually Mastered Super Saiyan Rosè 3 since it would prove that it is indeed possible to master SSJ3 and that it's not a worthless transformation.
Full Power Rose is clearly an Artificial Form created by the Mask as Black loses it the moment the Mask fully breaks
So it would still not be Mastered Super Saiyan 3
Cumber has mastered ssj3 its called full power ssj3 or ssj3 full power ( I can't remember which one it is, tell me if you find out) theory: ssj3 can be mastered but a saiyan needs to posses a tail at the same time when they go ssj3 ( they also need to buff up their body in order to contain the power of ssj3 just to mitigate the energy drain of ssj3, basically ssj3 is having too small of a container for a given volume of water / ki and you need to increase the size of the container so it can hold that given volume of water )
@@rrose9161 cumber is awesome
Goku's Universal Super Saiyan Blue form in the manga also has one additional power, since it seem fusing with the tree also gave Goku access to Tokitoki's power(which we can see from the blue wings in his aura that match Fu's purple aura wings after he fused with Dogidogi). That way Goku can match the massive power boosts Fu got from fusing with a time bird and absorbing energy from the universe tree
nice he can still fly even if he runs out of ki
Lol😂
Super Dragon Ball Heroes is such an interesting timeline
Verse
No its not is fan service
@@DrGeros_Cell it’s still it’s own timeline/universe. It even has a manga
@@TaeSunWoo and game
It was noted that Cumber KNEW Yamoshi back in the past in the early life of the first saiyan generation. Because both of them used to be comrades and saiyans rivals. Due to cumbers nature and backstory: His Ki turned out to be abnormal due to a disease that he was birthed with and with that, he infected saiyans who were near him or at least, came into physical contact with his aura only to be turned into a "berserked-state-like saiyan." Over time in his life, his aura spreaded like an actual virus while being left alone longer and kept on the planet for too long which can spread to a small island to a planetary level within months. most of all, the disease makes him beserk everytime he wants to fight and in battle too. while he fights, he grows stronger along with his abnormal ki level of growth.
is this tru if it is could ya tell me where to fine it i need to see this
@@ssjquez100 he made it up
I read “Cumber knew Yamoshi” and knew it was 100% made up lmao. There is no Yamoshi in the Dragon Ball verse. That’s a fan made character in fan fics
@@henryriasco5857 no aikra said that was his name
@@henryriasco5857 Yamoshi is a thing but this guy just made shit up Cumber has no lore except that he might have fought the original super saiyan god and that's it
i wish sdbh brings us gogito someday
i want the grand preist or angels in general to get some attention with how powerful the cast is they could actually help
At the end of the fight with Fu where Vegeta gets banished I seriously thought I was about to see the rare legendary ultra Goku, otherwise known a Gogokuku... just Goku fused with Goku. XD
@@ChronoSquare Wouldn't his name just be Fused Goku then?
Nah super Goku@@TyTy-ep8pe
It honestly doesn't make sense how Goku was corrupted by Dark Ki due to him being pure of heart and not being affected by the Devilmite beam, but this is Heroes, after all. It would've been cool to see Goku fight a berserk Vegeta and him possibly having to use Blue Kaioken to stop him.
The Devilmite Beam doesn't generate Evil in People's Hearts
But only expand the one already present
Where Dark Ki is it itself that's the Evil that take control of People's Mind
So it doesn't make sense to use the Devilmite as an example as the two work completely different
Bro trying to make some sense in a db anime
Unlike the Majin mark, you don't need to be evil to be possesed by the corrupted dark ki. The dark ki is like a virus, no matter how pure you are you will still be possesed. Vegeta was only able to overcome the possesion by holding his pride and accepting his inner evilness.
The parallelism between the two tecqniques d'ont make much sense, the akkumite beam dont corrupt the person' spirit and power but just use the evil in someone heart while Kamba and Turles just put evil aura in their target and also like others abilities the gap or power das not help
@@kimbaldundb heroes specifically yea it doesn’t make sense
Some of these characters would be a wicked final addition to Sparking Zero DLC.
Well some of these guys have been modded in, and pretty well too I gotta say. They look real good
New challenge: take a shot of vodka everytime you hear the word "saiyan"
I love the way he ends the video 😂 no outro no nothing
bro this stuff sounds like something i would come up with when I was a kid. super duper ultra full power super saiyan 4. bruuuh 🤣
Ong it’s kinda meh but tell me a better name
Non mainline DB be like: Mind's eye rage blue mode mastered (unstable)
Say what you will about Heroes, but the character designs and these transformations was awesome
lol it was not. It looks like a fan made DBAF shit
So glad Cumber & Hearts exist :)
My favs!
Cumber was not corrupted by Fu and Turles got the Evil saiyan form by eating enough Fruits from the Tree of Might.
Ah so that's what that form is! I didn't rightfully know what was going on with Turles, I hadn't thought of Cumber being a saiyan form. I thought that was simply his base.
I only came for the explanation of the Evolution style form Goku had after that controlling that tree. Cheers my guy.
Note: super saiyan blue universal is not the official name of the form
Super dragon ball heroes play just like Xeno verse 2's hero coliseum
And Hero Coliseum from DB Xenoverse 2 come later
fantastic video. Well done and well researched
Putting this at time 2 speed sounds even more nerdy
This dude: Saiyans
Subtitles: *sans*
my fave exclussive transformations are Limit Breaker Super Saiyan 4 Broly (red hair style) and Super Saiyan Rose 3 Black Goku.
toriyama:🤑🤑🤑👍🏼
Nope. How disrespectful
@@nydeity9100Way before he died rip tho
Towa is babe 😍😍
Ayo💀💀💀
This actually makes me want to watch Hero’s
Might I recommend World Mission?
Episodes are only 9 minutes.
Unless you're really busy, I doubt that it will take up too much of your time.
You should
2:24 Meta-Cooler, Vegeta, and Gogeta
I Hope There's a New Global SDBH Game
We need a massive update for world mission
I hopes there a sdbh English dub
@@thegoldenfistthree326 There are but its unofficial.
“Crimson Masked Saiyan.”
GEE I WONDER WHO THE FUCK HE COULD BE?!?
future goten
Goku black😅
i know we arent going to get these characters in sparking zero but the costumes would be great to get at least
A lot of peoples hate heroes because there is a lot of flaws like Power Scale seriously just take Cumber he became super weak for reason but I love it because it use some uncharted part of the DB mythology SUCH AS DEMONS SERIOUSLY EXCEPT DABRA WE KNOW SO FEW THINGS ABOUT THEM
Xeno Goku's drip is awesome, it's even more badass when he transforms into SSJ4.
Good video! 🔥💯
It's funny that you name yourself DBHYPE
But your voice is cool and calm
all these transformations should be added to the canon timeline
SDBH timeline is the testing grounds for the main timeline
Isn’t limit breaker ssj4 just ssj4 with God ki or ssg?
blue vegeta and goku gave their ssb ki to ssj4 goku and vegeta. so yes its ssj4 with god ki.
its just a ssj4 but beyoned limits
No it's just SS4, but the User is filled to the Brim with Saiya Power aka Saiyan-Ki
Basically every cell in their Body is Overcharged with Ki (similar to the Super Full Power Saiyan 4 state Goku used against Omega Shenron, but Overcharged)
DBXV3 better give us SS4
Super Saiya-Jin 4: 3 Ki = SS4 (Super Saiyan 4), 4 Ki = FP4 (Full Power 4), 5 Ki and more = LB4 (Limit Breaker 4), basically gives the User SS4, SS4 Hair of the Hair the user has (except Long Yamcha Hair, since it already looks like a SS4 Hairstyle) and the Hair becomes Black
Super Kaio-Ken 4: 3 Ki = SS4 (this SS4 makes us look more like Gogeta's SS4, but we get the Option to have our Base Hair Color or the Red Hair Color, Gogeta has, but we basically get Gogeta's Hair and Colors for SS4, including the Black eye fur and darker Fur on the Body), 4 Ki or More = SK4 (Super Saiyan 4 with Kaio-Ken like Xeno Gogeta used)
Super Full Power Saiya-Jin 4: 3 Ki or more = SS4 Limit Breaker, basically we look like Limit Breaker 4 Gogeta does (yes the name is the one of the inbetween states of SS4 and LB4, but hey it would be Cooler that way)
Yes bc Saiyans don't already have ss1, 2, 3, god, blue, and blue evolved right? 😐
the eyebrows dont even go away in female ssj3, do you expect them to do something with ssj4?
@@joolien_box Heroes is actually giving Beat and Note sssj4
@@christopherford39 epic
@@joolien_box not only Ssj4 but limit Breaker as well
what is that ending to the video lmao
They should add some super dragon ball heroes in dragon ball super new transformation new villains new allies emotional stuff and tournaments🎉
Where can I watch this series?
On RUclips
Earlier in dragon ball z, a form used to be distinct such as a super Saiyan. Frieza had forms, it was induced in the story as a suspence and written well like no other story before this over surprise element was that of zarbons disclosure of frieza's forms.
Later in the series after cell games super Saiyan form was redundant with goten and trunks, and in dbs once the blue forms caught up with audience. A lot of forms were made to be commercialized. This saturated the story. I would say after super Saiyan the white hair ultra blue form has space to built upon. It's more powerful than destroyers etc.
I know one old DBZ fan who even commented 'how did everyone become powerful than broly'. It was funny to think. about it later.
Black Frieza is more than likely stronger than broly now it's always up for debate ultra ego and MUI could be stronger than broly at the end of the granola arc
@@rushpatriot2866 it’s actually fairly concrete that Goku and Vegeta at the start of the Granolah arc are stronger than Broly and you can argue ToP Goku is stronger than Broly. Bare minimum Frieza is though
@@aetherialbeing4223 Top Goku is weaker than broly without UI
@@espresso387 yeah, I was talking about Goku with Ui lol
DBZ had a good story and build up, up to the cell saga. After Cell, everything lost meaning. SS1 was shit as well as SS2. SSJ3 was missused and quickly outclassed by Ultimate gohan, and Gohan's new form was relevant for 1 fight had that like 5 episodes or less.
DBS super is the buu saga but way worse. The writing is bad, the forms are bad except U.I.
( ego sucks, the design is way too goofy. Just look at vegeta expresions when surprised or getting hit)
Other than that dbs story is crap. As long as Goku is friends with the gods, no villain will have this threat factor that thr big 3 had in dbz
Just one bit of constructive criticism, ever thought of doing an outro. This videos feels like you cut it off mid sentence
the editor forgot to add it this time 😅
One day I hope we see ssj rose 4 Goku black. We were this close to seeing it🌹
I just got done watching all saga of heroes i actually enjoyed it sure it has it flaws but i could watch more of it
Man you are the best but you missed Golden Cooler also the golden great ape chamber but still awesome
Why Hype lowkey sound like AfroSenju
The fact that the dark saiyan aura can corrupt Bojack could imply saiyans and his race are somewhat similar or at least their transformation
these forms and characters would go so hard in sparking zero
Someone who have never seen super DB heroes: What the duck is happening here???
I don't give a shit how many flaws Heroes has from a serious story telling perspective it's quite possibly the only form of DB medium that exists that I genuinely enjoy. DBS just doesn't hit for me, and I find the concepts of Heroes and its story beats to be vastly more entertaining than anything Super has done since BoG. Cumber's backstory and lore alone has more depth than 85% of Super's entire run time which is laughable.
Does he actually have backstory? Just looking into SDBH now
spittin facts bro✅💯
actual facts
After seeing these transformations, I can understand why Akira is toning down the ridiculousness of them
"gohan beast"
This the most random dbz show bro I was lost at first
So is universal blue goku the strongest person in dragon ball?
Also imagine universal mui Universal instinct
No. The strongest character on screen is end of gt goku who trained for 100 years after omega shenron died and whatever magic boost shenron gave him by fusing with him. Then dragonball online goku who’s 100 years after end of z. Obviously weaker then end of gt goku who’s older and trained more and such. They make Zeno look like mercenary tao!
@@fridaynightnicktoons6885
End of GT Goku has no feats and is more Overrated than God Fusion Gokou
(also Dragon Balls cannot make someone stronger than a God, it was established in Granolah's Arc)
Dragon Ball Online Goku is dead
At the Age of 60-70 him and Vegeta left Earth to have one last fight and then Capsule Corp found a Super Nova that they believe being the Conclusion of that fight (there's no Online Goku that trained for 100 Years)
Also Online doesn't have SsjGod or Blue (as they where yet to be created when Online Closed its servers)
The Strongest Goku is Dragon Ball Fusion Goku
Being the Only Goku to have a Win against Beerus (and with Normal Super Saiyan Blue & can use Ultra Instinct without consuming energy and being oh no, I am out of energy, I am dead)
As some who likes power scaling transformations this series is giving severe headaches
Dragon Ball Super CG will have its own "Master Duel" version in 4 months.....
Cumbers”rage” form is just his base power
What about fully powered up Turles where he's got that same SS3 but base black hair?
@@ChronoSquare It's Overdose from Mighty Fruits Form
I’m just waiting for super saiyan blue 3. Kinda sad that it hasn’t been included here yet, but hey, it is what it is
Please make a video identical to this but an hour long or tell me where to find one
It's Berserk
Berserker is Kales Form
Just pure, unrepentant fanfiction
bro imagine a Controlled Berserk Ultra Full Power Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3 Evolved Majin Goku Black Kioken x20 Dark Dragon Ball Boost Mastered Ultra Instinct
it sounds rediculous but its theoretically possible within the DBH continuity
i had anuerism mentally stacking those buffs on goku lmao
@@MangoSmoothy I know its ridiculous, DBH is cracked dude
so hey can someone answer me, how much of this is anime and how much is from games?
I know it's primarily an arcade game in Japan, but then there's an anime that starts from Prison Planet and Cumber... yet, despite that, there's this demon realm arc animation? Am I missing something?
Demon Realm Animation is from a Trailer
The Game has Animated Trailers
They are very short (shorter than the Episodes)
Like 1-2 minutes long at max
I wish I had all these characters in xenoverse 2 😞
I think cumbers hair looked like a black ssj3 Goku anyway I don’t think it was the evil Saiyan powerup
Super saiyan blue evolution gogeta nixed ultra instinct into the form aswell, no one acknowledges this
No one acknowledges it because it's not true.
You may be the only person left that believes that bs 🤣
It's not true
I'm dissapointed there's no blue evolution x super saiyan 4 transformation
Bro just said so many words so fast, why are these forms names so long like: Limit breaker ultra full power super saiyan 4 and controlled berserker super saiyan blue state?
The evil form its hair does not change its a power buff it wont change your hair.
It did to turles
@@cheemsburger3184 lol no it gave him power not a hair change. And tht was just a redesign like they did with bojack. Tree of power aint no ssj3.
@@colemikel8976 nah I'm pretty it did change turles
@@cheemsburger3184 it made him grow its not a transformation like you are thinking
@@colemikel8976 technically a transformation
This video should have been a hour long
Super knuckle kanuckle bill buckle banana truffle headass saiyin is my favorite form.
So Heroes Scales Gogeta Blue above Jiren huh? Interesting. Also I didn’t know that Vegeta’s Corrupted Blue form was on Par with Goku’s MUI, or at least it seems treated that way.
Promotional material and the _Dragon Ball Super: Broly_ light novel also scale Gogeta Blue above Jiren in the _Dragon Ball Super: Broly_ movie.
I don't trust the word spoken, but when defeated by Blue Gogeta, Hearts says "you could overcome Zen-O with that power."
Honestly, seeing Jiren react to fusion is also one huge fan service moment hahaha
Where do you watch?
on youtube
Limit breaker ssj4 has God ki and I believe ssb vegito new form was a mix of ultra instinct and super saiyan blue or some have even said a mix of ultra instinct and super saiyan blue evolved. I don't think just super saiyan blue evolved vegito could beat full power ssj3 rose without the mix of UI *edit I mean gogeta don't know why I put vegito
You mean Gogeta?
@@rainer999 yes 😂
Limit breaker Doesn't have God ki
LB4 has No God-Ki, it's just that every cell within their Body is Overcharged and filled to the brim with Saiya Power aka Saiyan Ki
Gogeta's Form is just SSBlue Evolution, the Anime and OVA Trailer for the Game, just simply choose a new Design, but in Manga and Game he looks like normal Blue Evolution
SSRosé Full Power is NOT SSRosé 3
Black's Full Power Form is what Toriyama said happens when a SSJ is vomoletly Mastered and surpasses the Power of SS2 and SS3
isn't that gogeta ssjb mixed with mastered ultra instinct? it doesn't look like evolution to me
Is this AfroSenju!?!?!
I might have missed it but did he say he wasn’t going to mention absorption forms for characters? Because a lot of characters have original absorption forms in the game
I think that Gogeta form isn't SSBE, it just looks like SSB mixed with UI
Super db heroes has weird transformations like ssj 3 Rose Goku black and ssj 3 bardock. Still no threat to Beerus.
Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Ultra Instinct and Dark Dargon Ball Enhancement
Just want to SAY THAT SSJ3 ROSE DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING !!
IF HE IS ROSE INSTEAD OF BLUE ITS JUST BECAUSE OF HIS GOD KAIOSHIN KI THATS IT !!
Yes SsJB is the Super Saiyajin state of the God Form so technically you could mix SSJ3 and God Ki to obtain this form BUT FOR NOW ITS JUST NON SENSE !!
It’s like Golden Metal Cooler technically possible but non-sens
I wish this game came to the US salty it never did
Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Gogeta's or Vegito's Time
How do I find theses episodes I never seen these
Watching this took years off my life gawd this series is truly something 😐😐
You forgot universe tree power super sayain blue.
Can they beat goku tho?
Which ones? And if compared to Canon Goku, yes they can, multiple times even
@@hoshiryu it's a joke
Nah Goku Has Super Saiyan 4 Blue Kioken Rosé 100 Limit Breaker MUI Beast Mode He's Untouchable
@@IcE-_-Kidd TUI* and universal blue evolution kaioken x1000
But why is gogeta form different to ssjbe vegeta
Because it mixes UI into it. It’s Vegeta’s Blue Evolution combined with Ultra Instinct as a technique and form.
@@rainer999 pretty sure it’s just blue evolution, as that’s what it’s stated as. If UI was mixed into it in any way we’d hear about it.
@@davixn It doesn’t explain the silver and yellow ethereal glow we see from Gogeta tho. UI has to be in the mix otherwise where the hell did that thing come from?
@@rainer999 🤷🏽♂️. I don’t really know, If anything I don’t think it would be UI although. SDBH does a lot of weird stuff and that’s probably just part of it. Hopefully we get an actual canon SSJBE Gogeta when the anime comes back and we can actually learn what the white aura is.
It's just for esthetic. In the game and cards looks like more the classic ssj blue evo. Also if they want to combine ui and others forms as in the dbs manga (but it's early in my opinion) they should do nothing couse a combination for now doesn't change anything or give any power up
cumber is not ssj3 his hair is already long even in base form
So goku in this is stronger then Zeno? Cool 😎
Yes. Even end of z goku might be above Zeno.
Controlled berserker is the hottest fucking design.
Wait, i thought cooler was not cannon.
Is this series cannon?
NO, be relieved that it is not
It's a Official Series, but Non-Canon
Same with GT, Officiql, but Non-Canon
Ok thanks, i haven't watched dbz in a while
@@hoshiryu alternate timeline
You’ll enjoy and appreciate all Dragon Ball stories much more because you look at them as different “timelines” or continuities rather than cast out 90% of Dragon Ball because it isn’t pure enough for you.
bro goku , a pure hearted saiyan turning evil is just stupid.
He didn't turn evil. It just made him go berserk.
howd you watch super dragon ball heros?
ruclips.net/p/PL4ZuDQ46RLkHILEJUassQ39vQ38ikGGvD
Golden metal cooler 😂? Black janemba?😂 idk it’s funny
There is this basically in xenoverse 2 no
Giblet achieved dark, super Saiyan god in Dragon ball legends by controlling the dark ki given by Zhaha, giving him a decent power boost.
That was an abrupt end. ???
Wouldn't exactly call Limit Breaker a Heroes exclusive form, Goku does the same thing twice in GT. Heroes just modernized it and made it look more flashy.
No, They are different transformations.
@@legendarylimits564 No they aren't? Goku collected energy from other saiyans not once but twice during GT. Limit Breaker is the exact same thing except modernized, it is no way a new concept. Goku even had the red glow during the time he did it in the Baby Saga. Before "Limit Breaker" its still called Super Full Power Saiyan 4, the same exact name from the Baby Saga. Super Saiyan 4 has always been capable of doing this, Heroes just brought it back.
@@OmegaTheMyth Its a separate form due to the inclusion of God Ki, its been described and shown as a separate form several times.
This is easily the worst fallacy I've seen from someone in the Fandom.
@@OmegaTheMyth Im even gonna share this to DB Bad Takes to see how many people clown on the post.
@@legendarylimits564 Limit Breaker does not require god ki. You LITERALLY have Limit Breaker Z Broly in your picture, a character that uses Limit Breaker without anyone's help and without the use of god ki. Vegito and Gogeta have both done the same in Heroes. My explanation is not a fallacy because it is literally based on factual instances of this same concept being used in GT, YOUR argument is hilariously fallacious because it is never stated god ki is required and is as I've already explained contradicted. Love Dragon Ball nerds who watch some power scaler or debater use the word fallacy and blindly add it to their vocabulary as if they have the slightest clue what it even means.
In my head DB Heroes is just and alternate universe....
That's pretty much how the franchise works. The DB Heroes anime and manga are just two of many official continuities of Dragon Ball. In it, they combined and expand on content from other continuities.