Finally getting to regulate my double rifle. This is part 1. Stay tuned for part 2. Will get the barrels even closer than now in part 2. #shooting #firearms #howto
Nicely done, don't be too hard on yourself about the progress your making its impressive to see. I would recommend something I do with my regulators. If the gun is shooting over 8" apart I will adjust and shoot the guns without a wedge in the muzzle until I get them about right then make a wedge to fit its new position with some room for fine adjustment accounted for on the new wedge. It saves time and effort in making and adjusting wedges that aren't right for the muzzle and will need replacing with smaller or bigger ones anyway. best of luck with the project, look forwarded to seeing how it works out. 👍
I suggest you should only attempt this on a low cost rifle like a Baikal, very easy to ruin a fine double rifle by tampering with the zero, which has usually been fixed by the makers before sale, and the sold gun will include a target showing the shot placement from the two barrels.
I thought that Baikal doubles were screw adjustable. One barrel, the non adjustable one, was zeroed using the sights. Then the adjustable one was zeroed by screw adjustment.
Not a big game hunter but id really like to just target shoot with a double rifle, looking for a less expensive one,one if these days I'll find one.thanks for the nice video
When I regulated my 50cal o.u. cva. I used mathematics inorder to determine what the distance between the barrels needed to be. I went from a 24 inch spread to a 4inch one in one move. Algebra. This is to this as that is to that.
Re regulating most double rifles is very difficult and time consuming. When doubles rifles are initially regulated at the factory, the manufacturer tends to use a particular bullet and powder charge. I have read with the Baikal MP221 in 45-70 caliber. They were regulated with 405 grain bullet and a 36 grain charge of powder. Often times it is much easier to just research and try different rounds before going to the trouble of re regulating. Also, not all express guns are regulated at the same range. Industry standard is 50 to 55 meters.
I tried 10 different factory rounds before. Couldn't hit anything within a 1' circle. This gun now shoots within 1.5" at 50 yards and out to 75 they are just about touching. Thanks for watching.
Yeah... Each one is different... That thing couldn't group at all before I did the work to it. I'm gonna do another video at some point. Thanks for watching.
AAd a little higher comb that stocks got lots of drop in it. Stick on rubber ones work and stick on with strong hold yet easy removal. Or as lace on one like the m1 garand type.
It should be good now. The rear sight needed a notch cut in it, so my cheek wasn't all the way down. I just finished the last video and finished the notch. Tight cheek weld now. Thanks for watching
Good job regulating the barrels sux my first one spoiled me went easy. The second one sucked really bad seemed like it would never get it. Hoping the 3 rd on goes as good as the first.
@@A.R.American1 I bought mine from a company out of New Mexico. Radarcarve. I think they have gone out of business since then. But you can check on EBAY to see if they have them on there.
Do you reload? I think reload different bullet/powder combinations could be just as effective to regulate point of impact. I say this because the Baikal I had would ONLY shoot 2 bullets of 20 I tried to within 3" at 50. I had to play with powder amounts and a couple varieties of primers and brass, but it was fun.
I couldn't get the jack screw to adjust the barrels closer than 1' apart. That's why I removed it. As soon as I'm in the clear from my doctor I'll be shooting it again.
Hi Lance... please can you shoot some Heavy Dangerous Game Loads in your Baikal? Ammo like Buffalo Bore 380gr Mono Metal or the 430gr Hard Cast Flat Nose?
@@wildripeach1 I picked up some hard cast bullets from a buddy of mine. I believe they are 400's and I was looking at the PSI rating on the rifle and it can't be over 47000. Going to check Buffalo bore ammo later today.
If you are talking about the factory setup, I removed that years ago and brought the barrels closer. I could never get them closer than 1.5 feet together.
Please be decerning with regards to the ammo you are using. Baikal " regulated" these rifles using Remington 405gr "Trapdoor" loads. The barrels on these rifles in .45 cal are paper thin. Mine shot fine using Rem 405s out of the box. The accuracy you attained should be more than sufficient for any double rifle's intended purpose as none are MOA. Outstanding job.
I had tried the 405's at 50 and 75 yds. I must have gotten a bad rifle. Even using the jack screw, I could never get them to shoot within a foot of each other. Thanks for watching.
They do... I removed mine. After shooting 15 types of ammo and adjusting it, I decided a 1' group was terrible. I removed the screw and went this way instead. I was able to get them within 1.5" but want them even closer without them crossing.
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
Nice video lace, keep them coming buddy 👍
Thank you
This is the best gun fitting vid I've seen in a long time. Thankyou.
Thank you. And thanks for watching. I just finished up regulating it. Video will be posted on Saturday.
@@LanceHanlonOutdoors how did you initually pull the wedge? Magnet?
@@martkbanjoboy8853 I use a pair of pliers.
Nicely done, don't be too hard on yourself about the progress your making its impressive to see. I would recommend something I do with my regulators. If the gun is shooting over 8" apart I will adjust and shoot the guns without a wedge in the muzzle until I get them about right then make a wedge to fit its new position with some room for fine adjustment accounted for on the new wedge. It saves time and effort in making and adjusting wedges that aren't right for the muzzle and will need replacing with smaller or bigger ones anyway. best of luck with the project, look forwarded to seeing how it works out. 👍
Thank you very much... I will be doing another video in the coming weeks to finish it up. Cheers
I see that Westley Richards is looking for apprentices.
Doubles have a cool factor but I’ll stick with my lever
Forgot to mention- for up and down adjustment I turn the turret knob on the Truglo 4x scope with the diamond reticle
I suggest you should only attempt this on a low cost rifle like a Baikal, very easy to ruin a fine double rifle by tampering with the zero, which has usually been fixed by the makers before sale, and the sold gun will include a target showing the shot placement from the two barrels.
Uhh yeah... I know that. I have shot a lot of double rifles from many makers and understand not to mess with them. Thanks for watching
I thought that Baikal doubles were screw adjustable. One barrel, the non adjustable one, was zeroed using the sights. Then the adjustable one was zeroed by screw adjustment.
They are. Mine never would get a group better than 1' apart
Not a big game hunter but id really like to just target shoot with a double rifle, looking for a less expensive one,one if these days I'll find one.thanks for the nice video
I should be taking the rifle out this coming week to finish it up hopefully. Thanks for watching!
When I regulated my 50cal o.u. cva. I used mathematics inorder to determine what the distance between the barrels needed to be.
I went from a 24 inch spread to a 4inch one in one move. Algebra. This is to this as that is to that.
Yeah... I was talking to a gentleman that works for Westley Richards and he was telling me that it takes a little bit to get it.
Wish I could find one of these I almost bought one years ago and seem to have missed out.
They are definitely rare
Re regulating most double rifles is very difficult and time consuming. When doubles rifles are initially regulated at the factory, the manufacturer tends to use a particular bullet and powder charge. I have read with the Baikal MP221 in 45-70 caliber. They were regulated with 405 grain bullet and a 36 grain charge of powder. Often times it is much easier to just research and try different rounds before going to the trouble of re regulating.
Also, not all express guns are regulated at the same range. Industry standard is 50 to 55 meters.
I tried 10 different factory rounds before. Couldn't hit anything within a 1' circle. This gun now shoots within 1.5" at 50 yards and out to 75 they are just about touching. Thanks for watching.
Wow mine shot well straight out of the box and have the camber wheel on my barrels about inch for both barrels at 50 m
Yeah... Each one is different... That thing couldn't group at all before I did the work to it. I'm gonna do another video at some point. Thanks for watching.
AAd a little higher comb that stocks got lots of drop in it. Stick on rubber ones work and stick on with strong hold yet easy removal. Or as lace on one like the m1 garand type.
It should be good now. The rear sight needed a notch cut in it, so my cheek wasn't all the way down. I just finished the last video and finished the notch. Tight cheek weld now. Thanks for watching
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My first rifle was a baikal shot gun.
I would really like to have that double
They definitely are fun to shoot. Thanks for watching!
Ok! Yesterday I couldn't spell gun Schmidt, today I R 1!
Me being left I love doubles because of reloading
I think doubles are some of the coolest firearms out there
Where did you get the brace that
Holds thebarrels🎉in place while
Heatong and zeroing?
Are you asking about the regulation jig?
Good job regulating the barrels sux my first one spoiled me went easy. The second one sucked really bad seemed like it would never get it. Hoping the 3 rd on goes as good as the first.
It is time consuming, but nice once you get them where you want it to hit. I'll be doing more with the double this coming spring once the snow melts.
@@LanceHanlonOutdoors me too I am gonna finish building my 450 black powder express
@@LanceHanlonOutdoors where did you get your stock duplicating machine ?
@@A.R.American1 That's awesome. A lot of people don't like the double guns since they are expensive.
@@A.R.American1 I bought mine from a company out of New Mexico. Radarcarve. I think they have gone out of business since then. But you can check on EBAY to see if they have them on there.
Do you reload? I think reload different bullet/powder combinations could be just as effective to regulate point of impact.
I say this because the Baikal I had would ONLY shoot 2 bullets of 20 I tried to within 3" at 50. I had to play with powder amounts and a couple varieties of primers and brass, but it was fun.
I do reload... Had tried all different types of bullets and powders. Nothing would bring them in close.
Seems like a lot of trouble- my Baikal double rifle has a jackscrew between the barrels- only a few minutes to regulate bullet impact
I couldn't get the jack screw to adjust the barrels closer than 1' apart. That's why I removed it. As soon as I'm in the clear from my doctor I'll be shooting it again.
Hi Lance... please can you shoot some Heavy Dangerous Game Loads in your Baikal? Ammo like Buffalo Bore 380gr Mono Metal or the 430gr Hard Cast Flat Nose?
I can check and see what the psi rating is. If it isn't too much I can order some and try it out
@@LanceHanlonOutdoors How is Buffalo bore ammo going? That would a great video... maybe some Heavy Underwood Ammo would also be good...
@@wildripeach1 I picked up some hard cast bullets from a buddy of mine. I believe they are 400's and I was looking at the PSI rating on the rifle and it can't be over 47000. Going to check Buffalo bore ammo later today.
Dont you have a regulating bolt under the barels?
If you are talking about the factory setup, I removed that years ago and brought the barrels closer. I could never get them closer than 1.5 feet together.
I see. The factory screwd up...
@@przemysawkupniewski5213 could be... I tried 10 different types of ammo and had no luck
Please be decerning with regards to the ammo you are using. Baikal " regulated" these rifles using Remington 405gr "Trapdoor" loads. The barrels on these rifles in .45 cal are paper thin. Mine shot fine using Rem 405s out of the box. The accuracy you attained should be more than sufficient for any double rifle's intended purpose as none are MOA. Outstanding job.
I had tried the 405's at 50 and 75 yds. I must have gotten a bad rifle. Even using the jack screw, I could never get them to shoot within a foot of each other. Thanks for watching.
I was under the impression the mp221 has screws to adjust
They do... I removed mine. After shooting 15 types of ammo and adjusting it, I decided a 1' group was terrible. I removed the screw and went this way instead. I was able to get them within 1.5" but want them even closer without them crossing.
Don't these Baikals have a screw function for regulation?
They normally do... But I removed mine. I couldn't get it to shoot within a 1' circle. Now I'm in within 1"
an innacurate Rifle🙈
It was... Not now
Bubba strikes again