Idk if this is because I’m an intp but I wish your videos were longer. I really can’t get enough of your videos. Feel free to make the intp social engineering video as long as you want. And wishing you a quick recovery 👍🏻
Had an ISFP client once. I was the only one in his life who would tell him one brutal truth after the other and initially he respected me for that until he started hanging out with people who validated him because they wanted something out of him (money, favors etc.). And then slowly but surely, he started seeing me as an enemy, as a ''hater'' and his life has been going down a downward spiral ever since.
I’m an ISFP and relate to almost nothing in this video. I’m very skeptical of people’s intentions towards me, especially if I don’t know them well. I do not go with the flow of the majority or buy into that “your truth, my truth” nonsense. I am a researcher and seek truth. I go against the grain. I’m not bad with money. I DO want to maintain a sense of control over my creative outlets, which is why I have outlets that I do alone. I do not often do artistic pursuits with others because either I would not enjoy the outcome they produce, or they would not enjoy being controlled by me trying to produce the outcome I want. I will not do things I do not want to do, nor do I want to lead others. I like when my work is appreciated, but my true joy comes from the accomplishment itself.
I relate except I will admit I can be bad with managing my finances though its something I'm very aware of and working on. Making money is not the issue its maintaining it that's the challenging part. I'm so sick of stereotypes of ISFPs as innocent morons who are easily had. We can be quite shrewd and we choose to take the high moral road many times but play around too much with our good nature and you'll feel the icy cold rage.
This is the length/depth I'm looking for in a video when I type "ISFP" into the search bar. Why Google decided to hide this from me for 3 years in favor of those 5 minute videos full of regurgitated wikigarbage, I don't know..
My mom’s an ESFJ. Ive had so much practise spotting and getting out of covert contracts. Thanks CSJ for your insight. So much stuff mentioned here I can work on.
«And the ISFP... I mean, some of the worst... one of the worst financially capable of all the types. ISFPs and money management generally don't mix.» *looks at my bank account* ...Oh :(
What's funny about this video is that CS Joseph is warning us ISFPs about our money mismanagement (ha!) and how we're not really that lucky, and I feel like I must've had a tiny version of him in my head all this time, because all my life I've avoided gambling and buying lottery tickets (I just *know* that if I started, it'd be a slippery slope). Now, I don't know exactly when or how I came to this kind of self-awareness about my own shortcomings when it comes to money, but because of my financial troubles when I was younger, now that I'm 31 it's gotten to the point where I use a written list and a calculator at the grocery store when shopping so that I can manage my money better. Seriously, ISFP + financial responsibility = a natural disaster waiting to happen! (ROFL)
"They can be the most productive bit they can also be the most idle, and it really comes down to whether or not they believe in what they're doing" This is why I couldn't finish university. Most teachers were super impositive and restricting, as well as the academic system around them. Now I have a home office kind of job which lets me organize my time and solve problems as I want to, and I'm excelling at it. Also leading a band and a music relates business I began with my bandmates. This video pretty much confirmed myself as an ISFP lol
Wow, you really understand my type... incredible.. this is insane to watch. An hour video and I relate to everything,.. every, single, thing. Even the less admirable parts.
As an ISFP I was once very manipulated by an ESFJ in my workplace due to being payed attention to, rather than any vanity. I used to feel unconsciously (pre personal growth work) that I was unimportant 'nobody special' and that my opinions were insignificant. So, when an ESFJ payed me a lot of positive attention, naturally enough I responded well. However, in a team of about 15 people, she manipulated certain selected individuals and I was the first person to realise what she was up to. I distanced myself as soon as I realised and left the job soon after. It was a pretty dysfunctional team.
This literally changed my entire life. I kept wondering why things and people kept turning on me, and the part about covert contracts and manipulation via gratification totally hit home. Thank you!!!❤️
As an ISFP , finding eckart tolle was great , i still got "trickstered" by pick up artistry flavoured self development. I definatelty found self assesment and finding out my own ego protecting behaviours. I ended up reading a LOT of books which always kept me humbled by my fantasies of being the popular, social manipulator, spoilt brat that doesnt have to do any work and can jsut manipulate other people to see how GOOD i am without actually doing the work. No wonder no one really can trust me for long term commitments, i hate committing , i want control and i want choice and if no one give that to me il mad at them because i gave it to them unconsciously (not even supposed to be in my power). Cool to finally see some of the negatives and now looking back at the positives, the ART is the major IMPACT that can come from this person, it has to be ENOUGH in my mind instead of "wanting more" (vantity, popularity, puffed up ego).
You blow my mind. I appreciate every second of this video for real. I'll always keep your words/warning for us in mind. and who knows, maybe after 50 years i'll watch this video again remembering you've change this 17 years old girl's perspective. Thank you from the button of my heart.
I have one issue: I think CS Joseph is taking the phrase "I'm living my truth" kinda the wrong way. I know a lot of ENTP/INTPs get frustrated with it, but I do understand it. Basically, when the person isn't being an asshole, they're not saying there's no objective truth, they're saying "this is my experience, it *happened*, and I refuse to be gaslit". The reason it's become a fairly popular phrase is mostly in female and PoC circles where people constantly told that their experience didn't happen. "Oh, you were sexually assaulted, well that can't be true, here's a chart I lazily grabbed from wikipedia". Too many people on the other end of the spectrum, use this very lazy idea of 'logic' to negate other people's lazy ideas of 'anecdotal experience'. Both sides end up not understanding each other. So, the next time someone says that, take it as an opportunity to meet them in the middle. Because there's a very good chance that your mega-hyper-logic rebuttal is lazier than you think.
@@adarshsingh1745 But humans generally have no fucking idea what absolute truth is. The only thing that's close are the platonic solids and Pi. That's it. Everything else is Plato's cave in this universe.
«They have this thing that, "Okay, If I just stop believing something is real, it's no longer real, ok?"» BAHAHAHAHA! CALLED OUT AF! No wonder my type ends up with a lot of social justice clowns. Jesus, what a nightmare. I totally do this sht. UGHHH.
If the ESFJ can social engineer ISFP so easily so much so as to destroy and ruin their sense of self and their life and goals and all, then why is the ESFJ most compatible mate for the ISFP?
Honestly, I don't know, the relationship with the ESFJ I've dated was a disaster. He used exactly the same methods as mentioned in this lecture. He actually even made me feel obligated to date him because he's been there for me during difficult times though I only saw him as a friend. Now I cringe every time an ESFJ is romantically interested by me and trying to use their manipulative "free kindness" to get me. Never again. He was the most stifling social experience I ever had.
Im an infj and I fell in love with a isfp recently. . Hes the most amazing person I've ever met. I would do anything to make him happy but everything I do pushes him away and hurts him. I even made him cry on accident . . Its hard for me to live in the moment, but after meeting him im learning how to appreciate the moment and I wish I knew how to make him feel secure. But my communication style are like daggers to his heart . . How do you word things to an isfp! The intention doesn't get through and he just gets stuck on the words and im terrible at words I just have a lot of them.
@@lyminlime As an ISFP I'd recommend demonstrating unconditional love and affection through actions. For me its less about the words themselves but really you want to use words that are non-confrontational and show him your empathy and understanding for his point of view while still having your own points of view. Actually this is very important, one of the main reasons I ended a previous relationship was because the girl started to mirror my passions and interests without sharing her own, not intentionally I think but it was still a bit disappointing to me. I like someone who can be really interested in an experience I share with them and take the time and energy to do so and a small amount of mirroring is fine and can even be really nice if it is genuine. However they also need to share something, not even an experience necessarily (could be an insight into how they view the world which I'm sure will be fascinating from an INFJ, or there taste in music or anything really) that is in some way 'theirs' and I can enjoy because as an ISFP sharing something is almost always a heightened experience for me. Idk if this will help you at all, how's it going with your relationship?
ISFP here, I learned taking the hard path how I was taught and there were many chance for me to learn it but there were still points that hit hard. First time clicking into your video but I see what you do. I think so highly of you practising what you teach with these amazing techniques for people to be true and just be better person.
Nope. I don't really think I am that naive as an ISFP. As an informative person, verifying what has been said is usually my starting point, specially when it comes to job offers. I do like contracts, formality and safe grounds. And no, I do not trust or open myself to people so easily as he is saying. That's weird... But I do like being pleased, not gonna lie. And the 'selfish' , 'forgetful' part are ashamely true. Basically, I believe doing good things for people who, for some reason, are excessively nice to me, is a social commitment that I don't want to be forced to accept. Often times I do not return, and go away because these same people get upset and demanding. That is specially true with J's. I believe that if you do nice things to someone, you do because you want, I did not ask for it. Why would you expect so much in return? That's how I do charity as well, not looking back. Emotional dependence leads to a controlling behaviour that I refuse to deal with. My closest friends are the ones who give me freedom to be who I am and respect my personal space.
Thank you for this video. I really needed to listen to this! I am an ISFP and I have experience the things you mentioned in this video. I like it when people don't sugar coat me and actually tell me my faults straight up. Thanks!
I am an INTP and I like how long your free style videos are... the more paradigms/perspectives/anecdotes you go into the better, because it gives me more frameworks to view things from!
Ouch ouch ouch. Such a great “it hurts so good” lecture here. But, I do have to admit: I consider myself a mature ISFP. I have taken responsibility for my actions even when it’s extremely uncomfortable. What I have learned is that personal growth is best achieved through extremely uncomfortable experiences, and the more I do it, of course the stronger (and better of a person) I become. I am quicker to recognize my faults and own up to them. And you know what, I actually have more self respect and esteem for it.
ISFP here, had INTP girlfriend who used covert contract, didn't work and it's not going to work, and the relationship ended. She would only complain after the fact that i don't do things for her because she did, and i'd call her out that she shouldn't do it if she doesn't want to or if she expects something in return, she'd better say it to me me, so i have ability to say no, and might do that, which could piss off the INTP or ESFJ for example, because i'm taking their ability to care for me. That glorifications sure worked for a long time tho, but enough experiences usually leads to verify, especially when it comes to trust with money, because i don't trust anyone with that . P.S thanks for the typing session Chase , great content, keep calling out every single type for their bullshit so they can actually better themselves instead of being ignorant . :)
Being that an ISFP girl used me and led me on for YEARS, pretty well confirms the manipulative abilities of ISFPs. Or it could be that im an oblivious overly-trusting INTP doormat, or a combination of the two. Most likely the latter. LOL
Wooowww... incredible indepth assessment. Loved my isfp deeply and had to walk away. I was the only real friend if not only friend left. I'm an INT/FJ. The counselor go figure! This explains why so many artists go through deep struggles with mental health. Could never quite figure the complexities... so obvious now! The familial covert contracts binding them, as well as the refusal to take responsibility, be in reality or express themselves authentically without the 'act'.. which had become a self imposed reality.. but in actuality a prison. Heartbreaking really!
Spot on with this! My husband is a ISFP, I love him for the good and bad but this is a really great tool for him! You have a talent, thank you for making this video!
Informative, responding, control. This is exactly how I was raised (boarding school values). Now you have me interested in matching types to both different sub cultures and different nationalities. ISPF for example sounds very Japanese.
Hey, I found your channel the other day. I find your honesty extremely refreshing. I watched the how to type anybody playlist and was fascinated. The first actually helpful system that makes sense and works. I have already noticed I am able to interact with people better. I'm still not very good at it but I'm excited to finally have a plan to improve myself in this area. Keep up the good work and speak truth.
ISFP here! A lot of the ranty stuff on here would have normally made me feel bad about myself. I’ve always been super paranoid that I’m selfish probably Bc I know I can be selfish and self centered even though I genuinely don’t want to be. But I had a few revelation moments in my relationship with my ex where I actually humbled myself to see I really wasn’t that great and that I really hurt him Bc of my selfishness. but then I realized that it’s ok to see the bad parts of myself, that I will be fine and it doesn’t have to define me. Instead I can focus on changing and becoming better and I get to take responsibility for who I’m becoming, it’s not just good luck or bad luck that determines my outcome, it’s my choices and actions. I now value to truth way more than flattery even if it hurts me because I don’t want to hurt others anymore. Thank you for the kick in the butt, Bc ironically the fear of being selfish and bad was keeping me that way. But once you can see the darkest part of yourself and accept it, you can actually start working on it and move forward in growth. Thank you, thank you!
ISFP here. The hardest thing I've ever had to do was face my own shame. A few years ago I reached the point where I was becoming abusive and offensive towards others, convinced that I was the victim. It's not a time of my life I'm proud of. As a kid I was severely physically abused, as well as emotionally abused. What effect would this have, especially on an ISFP?
Stockholm syndrome for the most part.. lacking ability to feel the people around you.. becoming a narcissist yourself if not careful.. not just one thing.. highest chance of being a dismissive avoidant..
This video really has me questioning my type. I really did not relate to the work-scenarios. I've always been a very hard worker. I actually do work hard, I don't just manipulate by trying to look like I am. Now, at home, I can plan on doing this or that and mismanaged time and end up screwing off and not accomplishing what I intended. Other times I accomplish so much even at home. I'm sometimes lacking solid direction, and have a hard time making decisions about my future. I had trouble with humility as a kid/teen/young adult, but mostly I was just surrounded by people emotionally manipulating or shaming me, and I'm not apologizing to people so they can further use it against me, I'm not that dumb. To those I have solid relationships with where there is trust, I can definitely admit wrong and show humility. I do agree shame holds me back and embarrassment is real. I also don't ever feel flattered by esfj. Instead I feel led or bossed around. Maybe I just suck at typing and maybe I and all my esfj friends are really some other type....ugh, this is frustrating.
I will never criticize you for spending too much time explaining a concept. This INTP likes all the depth you put into things and the more angles you hit the idea from the better I can digest it.
Well this has turned into quite the journey today finding your videos. My post before this is probably really classic.I didn't really realize it but I hurt a lot people even just last week...
My ISFP's wife' art is sewing. She thinks everyone should be wearing masks to reduce covid transmission. She has been sewing masks to give to friends. She won't sell them for anything. Her covert contract is that you are a horrible person if you don't wear the mask that she spent so much time and love making.
I’ve just discovered my personality type (ISFP) recently and are looking for resources for self improvement. I’m so happy to have stumbled upon this video, and I want to thank you so much, for making this. All my life people around me have been saying nice things to me, and this kind of honest “lecture” is what I really need to keep me grounded and realise the reality of being me. It frightened me a bit, how accurate this personality analysis can be. I would also be so glad if anyone can share with me any other resources (books, podcasts, youtube videos, etc) to help improve the weaknesses of an ISTP.
I had an interesting, to say the least, upbringing where I would "battle" the Fe of my maternal ESFJ grandmother. One time, she reminded me that I had written some descriptors about myself on a paper that she still had in her possession. She stated, with an air of overperformance about how hurtful I was towards myself in those descriptors. How terrible she felt about it. How painful it was to read what I had written about myself. Not remembering what I wrote I demanded to see that piece of paper. In my mind I wanted to confront those words, my old thoughts, process them and become better. She refused to show me. It was as if, and to me, it was her stating that she "loved" me so much that she was holding onto the burden of grief and negative thoughts that I had about myself. She was the "keeper" of my pain. Because of this, she was doing me this huge favor, or service and I owed her, enter covert contract. I saw this and this infuriated me. Looking back at all of it, those type of interactions and realizations strengthened my resolve.
Its so fucking funny how u are saying we can get spoiled and bratty and selfish and unresponsible so easily, while me sitting here knowing very well that I eradiate all of these things at this very moment… LOL / 20 yo Isfp female aspiring to change🙃
Thank you for this lecture! find so much accuracy... I often think about myself as a most lucky person in the world, love being glorified, my ambition is to create art - and through this art give message to the people... and all the other things. Thank you, now I know my weaknesses a little bit more -ISFP
The part where you talked about thought manipulation and the guy who didn’t want to be embarrassed about his secret actually stresses me out bc I’ve done that exact thing 400 thousand times
My weak point would be If someone showed a lot of authentic Fe to make me feel good, Se looked safe and imo the hardest thing to get past is child Ni because even if someone makes me feel good and they look safe sometimes I still get that DANGER feeling. It's about beating that child Ni. Just because ISFPs go along with you doesn't mean they're being manipulated, they're conflict avoidant so they'll knowingly go along agreeing and bullshitting you then ditch you in the end lol Obviously if they do end up buying that lemon car or get scammed it's a different story but they will go along with words but not actions a lot of the time.
Countless times I've felt with would be social engineers this way!!! I literally JUST did that last week. To a salesman who CAME TO MY HOUSE. "Yes wow thank you for your time do you have a business card? If I don't have one I'll forget everything. Thanks your very good at what you do sir! Have a good day, stay cool now! (sweet giggle)- shuts door emedeatly throws away buisness card" 😂🤣😂🤣😂
This was super interesting to listen to, especially as an ISFP. This really confirmed my ISPness but I started getting worried because as soon as you started saying all those flattering things, my brain started immediately throwing up the red flags going "ABORT ABORT ABORT" and getting ready to call out some serious bullshit. It wasnt until the end that I realized its just because i've already been burned and jaded before and that action of being jaded and held accountable and losing a lot of what I cared about (through my own hubris, and not realizing how my actions hurt others) really made me a more cautious person and more willing to sit back and do research before allowing my Se to immediate respond with how my Fi is feeling at the time. It took forever to learn that, but I'm really glad I did and at this point in my life I like to THINK im thriving, but im my own worst critic and I know I still have forever and a day to get where I need to be. I used to let Ni child sit there and go 'go big or go home! you're only ever gonna work for the Big names!' and I still think that, but theres better checks in play. I have better people in my life. I know I cant just leap, I have to build platforms and steps and know that I'm able to actually achieve goals. IDK as an ISFP this was super hardd hitting, but also super enlightening (even though i was scared i wasnt an isfp because im just so paranoid of those coming in and falling into the flattery trap). So thank you! And also, haha, as someone else said, I actually did watch this while working on art for my job. Go figure!
I fluctuated between chuckling and wincing. Nailed it. P.S. I'm pained that you confirmed my fear that my son will be vulnerable to ESFJs. ~intj mother to isfp
@ecuadorstreetdogrehab Yeah, please protect him at all cost. I'm an isfp and a lot of esfjs have tried to manipulate me. Please make sure to let your son know these facts and protect himself
ISFP here and I am mechanical, it's true as he says. You Tube makes anyone not lazy or full of fear to many degrees mechanical. Watch a video and watch it a few more times if needed then DO IT! I love the way GOD MADE ME in his image. Wearing my crown today!
Hey chase. You seem to be more yourself in your space. But hey... Only at 1 minutes now.... 20 min in, you're calm. Seems like you are a happy chase again.... I'm happy about that...
Such an accurate breakdown. I have a few things to say from my perspective. Everything is a skill that can be trained. Once you get screwed a few times your Ti will start working a from time to time , also the responsibility aspect is a matter of hardening your ability to shame , it is possible. The one thing I object is that you behave like all successful ISFPs moneywise are artists with the conventional way. Are there no other ways to express art , Everything can be an art , Everything and anything.
my experience (and idk if this guy is isfp. but i can't imagine what else he is (maybe istp?)) with an istf friend of mine is tht, whenever i do really nice things for him that he even asks me for, when he owes me back, he tends to ghost me. next time we meet, he has elaborate reasons why he didn't pay me back at the start and then he talks about how his nervousness afterwards made him not want to call me. i may just be a chump here; that's honestly the conclusion i came to and just stopped doing all things for him unless he pays me back right away in a tic for tat contractual fashion. it's fascinating hearing him explain his world because it's so silly. he regularly gives himself permission to do things based on a series of erroneously ascribed motivations. it's also fascinating how he has trouble grasping theoretical concepts. whenever i explain physics or quantum physics, he needs me to explain it in a child like style for him to get it. but the next second he'll be explaining how a car works mechanically and i will be blown away. idk what those things mean. it's just interesting. i feel like i can see right through most people without a thought. but him, it's extremely alien compared to the typical human... or, at least, he wants it to seem this way. he's always seeing what others say and denying that this is the case for him. someone may say, "we all know that this is the reason people do this such thing." he will say, "for me, i see it this way cuz i just want this..." most people would see what he wants as some inconsequential factor. it gives everyone pause and they look at each other and laugh in some shrug of the shoulders, wtf type reaction. we all laugh at it. but i think to him, it's often not funny or he honestly doesn't realize why it's funny.
Mr Joseph, thank you for your series of lectures. I have been finding them very interesting and your delivery clear, and at times very humorous. Thank you. I have looked at personality typing before, many times. It is an interesting idea that I can see could be used for the greater good or ill depending on how it is applied. This is one reason that I particularly liked your positive messages, (particularly in lectures giving descriptions of the types), as I think your combination of theories give tools easily used by many but, more so, because I am very aware that poorly motivated, (or even sometimes well meaning), stereotyping can have devastating effects. I have previously tried MBTI self-testing and found results that were not consistent over time, which give me doubts. I find your theory using eight facets of a given personality, reflected to give a further 2 sides to the mind far more plausible and intriguing. However, when I try applying your ideas, I appear to be able to find a result for others, but not for myself. You have covered this point, stating that trying to type yourself or someone else of the same type as you will often put you at a disadvantage due natural blind spots that appear to be inherent in the exercise. And from this, predictably, my own predicament with typing myself appears to stems from seeing traits from more than one type that appear to fit me and am not not able to place myself in any one category. (Yet) I have often felt like a chameleon in life, which can be a good thing, but when trying to type myself it’s like trying to grasp water. Anyway, I just thought I should add a comment here since I have really enjoyed your videos thus far. Having watched some of your earlier lectures first, I wanted to say thank you for trying to make the world a better place. Now watching the social engineering series it’s getting a bit edgier, although I can see that this direction would be the natural progression of the topic for most people. Anyway, for what it’s worth, I am glad of your good work and hope you are able to continue for the foreseeable future.
This really helped me (enfp) understand my isfp coworker. They are senior to me, yet it's so obvious they have been resting on their laurels and not pulling their weight. It drives me crazy because my other teammates (mostly isfj) don't seem to see it, or at least don't want to see it, and also because the isfp seems to think they've got me fooled as well. I want to expose them so bad, but I know the correct path forward is for me to go out of my way and befriend them (even though they don't deserve it).
Two things, freestyling I think is working off intuition and if that is what comes naturally to you, you will get far better results than planning. This is how I write academic papers - do a lot of deep reading, let it swirl around in my head, maybe sleep on it, start writing, see what shape it takes and then polish. You do seem to cover all the angles so I think you do in fact have it all together in your head, maybe in the sub conscious?
I am and INTP that just met and fell for an ISFP that has depth and maturity and connected emotionally with my heart at every level...until I friended her on FB and she found out I was a social conservative. Hoping that this video will help me to find a way to convince her that individuals values matter more than their political means to the same end.
Well, I have completely changed as an ISFP, that is for sure! After losing £130k to a fraudulent business purchase and failing many times in business, I have learnt to be distant calculating and cold at times. I have taken my foot off the pedal in terms of trusting people too soon and embodied a more objective view on life, divorcing from my emotions within. This has helped in deciphering what is authentic and inauthentic while remaining level headed throughout. The philosophy of Stoicism has helped A LOT with regards to internally validating myself, rather than fishing for flattery. Also, playing piano is the voice I use to convey my emotions on a day to day basis. In my opinion, objectivity is KEY to not being manipulated and for guiding oneself for making better life decisions.
Im isfp and im not that naive when come to being exploited or manipulated. I always have that kind of attitude of "trust.. but verify" so i always test everyone that stand with me
The worst and most toxic human being I have ever met was an ISFP. And I have nothing positive to say about an ESFJs...their "ideal mate" From my perspective they are meant for each other.
i can see that i dont take responsbility for my problems. I always try to look the other way and not solve my problems. This is affecting my school and money at my home. I hope i will be able to improve this aspect of my weakness.
@@josephaether377 I am INFP. I would never just ask Chase to do that for another type! lol I want Chase to be super harsh with the truth or it probably won't sink in.
@@Hybe123 yeah we will and you will burn any loyalty we have shown to you in the past, even though you took it for granted or might not even have noticed or recognized it for being loyalty. And for that we could ghost you or just up and disappear when next you need us. Never to be heard from again. Unless you find our cave, removed from any natural light. But if you do, we will either make you pay for the experience or we will pack up and move just to get away from what we see as unwanted confrontation.
Oh... my... god... this is the most informative and helpful lecture I’ve heard about personal growth (obviously it’s so much better since it’s type specific) and I’m trying to keep listening but it is so hard to accept some of these things I know are true. Jesus.
Earlier today I needed to research some topics while multi-tasking and I was fairly salty at how long the videos/podcasts were bc I had this video on my radar and wanted to get to it. Then when you said this video was prob going to be shorter I was like damn it lol. I'm v curious for the INTP soc eng vid--I don't think I actually know any ENTJs but I'm not super skillful at typing yet so maybe I do. Unfortunately (or not, depending) I'd prob LIKE being socially engineered by an INTJ (I'm sure I actually have been at times by a certain INTJ and all I feel is...flattered.) This was interesting, as always.
I definitely believe in absolute truth and absolute good. I absolutely hate when people talk about their different truths, because the truth of the matter if everyone has a different truth, it means that everything is relative, and if you believe everything you'll fall for everything. The thing is I didn't understand absolute truth until I came to christ, so I was probably saying this BS before LOL, but now if I say something is someone else's truth, I'm more so saying it to indicate to them that that solely is what they believe, but it's not the absolute truth. That is very true about the embarrassment thing, so I had to realize that if someone is trying to embarrass me, they are going to reap what they sow, and also realizing that the opinions and the validation of other people is not what drives me, or makes me valuable. As far as thought manipulation I guess I don't see myself as any better than anyone else at that. I think everyone tries to state their piece, but I have to admit I do purposely try to sway the thoughts of people, but not out of ill intention, or to even really get what I want. It's basically so people can be freed of any bondage that they are in, or anything false that they might be believing. You might as well do the good thing, because if you don't do the good thing, you're going to be called out for it. That has happened to me a couple of times. I have actually always been a hard worker, and never understood why there were people that would look like they are working and they weren't doing anything. A lot of the times it was just because they were good with people they were allowed to get away with it, and that was always something that bothered me, because I would work super hard and never get recognized, and then get treated like crap. So now, I do everything for the glory of god, because I know that God will recognize my hard work, and bless me for it. I think the problem is if you don't acknowledge us, and the work that we do, and people around us are doing things they're not supposed to be doing... we might just leave and do what we want like them, and not feel bad about it when you confront us, because you're not treating everybody with the same courtesy. We know it's wrong, and we feel guilty about it after some contemplation, but we still won't want to confront it because we don't feel like it's completely wrong since other people were doing it as well, and you are not confronting them. See I get this selfish thing a lot, but don't actually think isfps are any more selfish than anyone else. I think part of what it is isfps are often not selfish, so when we actually do something that's selfish, it's a surprise to people, especially the people that use us. I was friends with a few enfjs and I would always be doing things for them, but when I ask for something in return, it seems like they could never help. I had noticed with them they will often gather a group of friends to get their needs met, and it never seemed authentic because if that person couldn't meet their needs, they were no longer valuable. I typically take responsibility for my actions, but I have been around a lot of people that do not take responsibility for their actions, and often end up blaming things on me, so it kind of put me into a mindset where I had to think about whether something really was my fault or really was not my fault. I came to find that a lot of the things I was being blamed for, were not my fault. But I think when people believe they can manipulate us, everything becomes our fault. I agree that isfps are easily manipulated, that's why we have to listen to our and I I believe, that is warning us about people I've asked God for the ceramic, he's has given it to me, so when this ESFJ came in the picture about a month ago, yeah he was saying all the things that he thought I wanted to hear, saying all the things that he thought women wanted to hear etc and I would have fell for that 5 years ago, but now it's like x-ray vision for me. I think the secrets to having that kind of vision, is God of course, but letting go of self-glorification, as well as validation from people. I don't really attach myself to too much nowadays, and so people can't manipulate me as easily. If I sense somebody is trying to manipulate me, for a certain outcome, then now I just put it on the table so they can realize they don't need to try to manipulate me to get what they want. When you're not quite as concerned about the appearances of things, people cannot control you concerning those things. I realize the shallowness of appearances, so now when people compliment me it's like a minuscule second gloat and then I'm done, because really it doesn't matter. What matters is how my heart looks like, not what my art looks like. If somebody is glorify me publicly, I'm automatically going to think they are after something. And I usually don't want it. But I think the issue here is if the ESFJ is trying to manipulate people, they are going to have to look at themselves cuz didn't you get in an accident or something? It might not be people putting you in a headlock, but God always repays when we do things we're not supposed to. I think you can't really blame someone you manipulated saying they don't want to take responsibility. You need to take responsibility for being manipulative. That is funny about the covert contract. I've never heard an ESFJ do it, but I have had several ENFJ people do it That's why I try to be self sufficient, so to deter people from such things. I didn't really like reading until the Bible and it gave me eye to see these kinds of things. Looking back on my luck, and guess it wasn't looking all it was actually me reaping what I sewed. ISS can do good by others, even if they do not do good by us and again we will reap a blessing from that. It usually isn't going to be serious popularity etc, but our needs being met in peculiar ways. Great, great video and very relevant for the times! Thank you for sharing!
@@CSJoseph Honestly I don't feel like I'm an intj but all the different mbti tests keep on telling me that I am an intj. Though I'm highly skeptical about the tests and its accuracy so I can't argue on that.
it's really nice how you can show us the good side of types that we don't use to get so good along with.. and how to do the best possible for us out of it ..that it's REALLY useful for me, than you really much !!!
Thankyou so much, I'm getting to know an ISFP, I was so scared of mistyping and everything you talked about hit home and now I know what I am facing. Signed INTJ.
I’m afraid I’m going to have to place you under arrest for invasion of privacy into my mind.
Mbl
"Hello, I'm highly exploitable!" Gonna have to print that on a tee shirt, make me a million. Thank you for the harsh but necessary lesson.
Tyler Richards get me one too pls
Accurate lol
Hey! wheres my free t-shirt?
You're gonna' poke your eye out with that pointer.
not really
@@CSJoseph lol, Jking. I can tell you are a professional.
Fe spotted
Idk if this is because I’m an intp but I wish your videos were longer. I really can’t get enough of your videos. Feel free to make the intp social engineering video as long as you want. And wishing you a quick recovery 👍🏻
amen to that
same here
I didn't love longer video in general but chase forced me-in his own way- to love the longer videos
Momo yeah man. I’ll probably watch it a million times too
Had an ISFP client once. I was the only one in his life who would tell him one brutal truth after the other and initially he respected me for that until he started hanging out with people who validated him because they wanted something out of him (money, favors etc.). And then slowly but surely, he started seeing me as an enemy, as a ''hater'' and his life has been going down a downward spiral ever since.
I’m an ISFP and relate to almost nothing in this video. I’m very skeptical of people’s intentions towards me, especially if I don’t know them well. I do not go with the flow of the majority or buy into that “your truth, my truth” nonsense. I am a researcher and seek truth. I go against the grain. I’m not bad with money. I DO want to maintain a sense of control over my creative outlets, which is why I have outlets that I do alone. I do not often do artistic pursuits with others because either I would not enjoy the outcome they produce, or they would not enjoy being controlled by me trying to produce the outcome I want. I will not do things I do not want to do, nor do I want to lead others. I like when my work is appreciated, but my true joy comes from the accomplishment itself.
Same here
I relate except I will admit I can be bad with managing my finances though its something I'm very aware of and working on. Making money is not the issue its maintaining it that's the challenging part. I'm so sick of stereotypes of ISFPs as innocent morons who are easily had. We can be quite shrewd and we choose to take the high moral road many times but play around too much with our good nature and you'll feel the icy cold rage.
This is the length/depth I'm looking for in a video when I type "ISFP" into the search bar. Why Google decided to hide this from me for 3 years in favor of those 5 minute videos full of regurgitated wikigarbage, I don't know..
Damn, I've never been so attacked and enlightened this much at the same time... Thank you for keeping me grounded with this lecture!
My mom’s an ESFJ. Ive had so much practise spotting and getting out of covert contracts. Thanks CSJ for your insight. So much stuff mentioned here I can work on.
«And the ISFP... I mean, some of the worst... one of the worst financially capable of all the types. ISFPs and money management generally don't mix.»
*looks at my bank account* ...Oh :(
Me when it comes to having to sit down and plan 😂😂
I dont know what kind isfp are you but im really good with money since i was young
Emmanuel's Glory TV, I (ISFP) was so oppressed by the stress of bills that it became a priority to pay them off; so Idid. 🙂
What's funny about this video is that CS Joseph is warning us ISFPs about our money mismanagement (ha!) and how we're not really that lucky, and I feel like I must've had a tiny version of him in my head all this time, because all my life I've avoided gambling and buying lottery tickets (I just *know* that if I started, it'd be a slippery slope).
Now, I don't know exactly when or how I came to this kind of self-awareness about my own shortcomings when it comes to money, but because of my financial troubles when I was younger, now that I'm 31 it's gotten to the point where I use a written list and a calculator at the grocery store when shopping so that I can manage my money better.
Seriously, ISFP + financial responsibility = a natural disaster waiting to happen! (ROFL)
It's your INTP superego/demon. Imagine what Elon Musk or Bill Gates would whisper in your ear if they were your demon about your thinking and logic
"They can be the most productive bit they can also be the most idle, and it really comes down to whether or not they believe in what they're doing"
This is why I couldn't finish university. Most teachers were super impositive and restricting, as well as the academic system around them.
Now I have a home office kind of job which lets me organize my time and solve problems as I want to, and I'm excelling at it.
Also leading a band and a music relates business I began with my bandmates. This video pretty much confirmed myself as an ISFP lol
Wow, you really understand my type... incredible.. this is insane to watch. An hour video and I relate to everything,.. every, single, thing. Even the less admirable parts.
As an ISFP I was once very manipulated by an ESFJ in my workplace due to being payed attention to, rather than any vanity. I used to feel unconsciously (pre personal growth work) that I was unimportant 'nobody special' and that my opinions were insignificant. So, when an ESFJ payed me a lot of positive attention, naturally enough I responded well. However, in a team of about 15 people, she manipulated certain selected individuals and I was the first person to realise what she was up to. I distanced myself as soon as I realised and left the job soon after. It was a pretty dysfunctional team.
this happened to me too, i'm not sure of the person's personality type but they definitely did this
This literally changed my entire life. I kept wondering why things and people kept turning on me, and the part about covert contracts and manipulation via gratification totally hit home. Thank you!!!❤️
The thumbnails are getting better. I can assure a significant increase in number of views.
INTJ
God everything about this is so very intj that I can barely stand it.
As an ISFP , finding eckart tolle was great , i still got "trickstered" by pick up artistry flavoured self development. I definatelty found self assesment and finding out my own ego protecting behaviours.
I ended up reading a LOT of books which always kept me humbled by my fantasies of being the popular, social manipulator, spoilt brat that doesnt have to do any work and can jsut manipulate other people to see how GOOD i am without actually doing the work. No wonder no one really can trust me for long term commitments, i hate committing , i want control and i want choice and if no one give that to me il mad at them because i gave it to them unconsciously (not even supposed to be in my power). Cool to finally see some of the negatives and now looking back at the positives, the ART is the major IMPACT that can come from this person, it has to be ENOUGH in my mind instead of "wanting more" (vantity, popularity, puffed up ego).
Your honesty is refreshing these days! Kudo's to you!
Wow you called me out
what books would you remind by this author?
You blow my mind. I appreciate every second of this video for real. I'll always keep your words/warning for us in mind. and who knows, maybe after 50 years i'll watch this video again remembering you've change this 17 years old girl's perspective. Thank you from the button of my heart.
"Stop it! Get some help!" this REALLY cracked me up.
This was a really good wake up call, very good accountability. Thank you!
Machiavelli said to ignore flatterers.
Anyone else notice that he describes manipulation by glorification and then proceeds to do exactly that at 33:50 to his ISFP artist hahaha
SimicFishCrab
The way that you manipulate is very similar to the way that you be a good friend.
I have one issue: I think CS Joseph is taking the phrase "I'm living my truth" kinda the wrong way. I know a lot of ENTP/INTPs get frustrated with it, but I do understand it. Basically, when the person isn't being an asshole, they're not saying there's no objective truth, they're saying "this is my experience, it *happened*, and I refuse to be gaslit".
The reason it's become a fairly popular phrase is mostly in female and PoC circles where people constantly told that their experience didn't happen. "Oh, you were sexually assaulted, well that can't be true, here's a chart I lazily grabbed from wikipedia".
Too many people on the other end of the spectrum, use this very lazy idea of 'logic' to negate other people's lazy ideas of 'anecdotal experience'. Both sides end up not understanding each other. So, the next time someone says that, take it as an opportunity to meet them in the middle. Because there's a very good chance that your mega-hyper-logic rebuttal is lazier than you think.
thanks for your comment
This is so satisfying to read. Thank you
But ISFP label truth as opinions or difference in experience. Absolute truth can't be changed.
@Tommy Hass Your mom isn't a thing
@@adarshsingh1745 But humans generally have no fucking idea what absolute truth is. The only thing that's close are the platonic solids and Pi. That's it. Everything else is Plato's cave in this universe.
«They have this thing that, "Okay, If I just stop believing something is real, it's no longer real, ok?"»
BAHAHAHAHA! CALLED OUT AF! No wonder my type ends up with a lot of social justice clowns. Jesus, what a nightmare. I totally do this sht. UGHHH.
"Neatness and accuracy, folks, NOT speed" - Mr. Schwartz
If the ESFJ can social engineer ISFP so easily so much so as to destroy and ruin their sense of self and their life and goals and all, then why is the ESFJ most compatible mate for the ISFP?
Honestly, I don't know, the relationship with the ESFJ I've dated was a disaster. He used exactly the same methods as mentioned in this lecture. He actually even made me feel obligated to date him because he's been there for me during difficult times though I only saw him as a friend. Now I cringe every time an ESFJ is romantically interested by me and trying to use their manipulative "free kindness" to get me. Never again. He was the most stifling social experience I ever had.
@@aurorebergen2779 even I want to know who is going to be best compatible with ISFP? Please answer 🙏🙏
Im an infj and I fell in love with a isfp recently. . Hes the most amazing person I've ever met. I would do anything to make him happy but everything I do pushes him away and hurts him. I even made him cry on accident . . Its hard for me to live in the moment, but after meeting him im learning how to appreciate the moment and I wish I knew how to make him feel secure. But my communication style are like daggers to his heart . . How do you word things to an isfp! The intention doesn't get through and he just gets stuck on the words and im terrible at words I just have a lot of them.
@@lyminlime As an ISFP I'd recommend demonstrating unconditional love and affection through actions. For me its less about the words themselves but really you want to use words that are non-confrontational and show him your empathy and understanding for his point of view while still having your own points of view. Actually this is very important, one of the main reasons I ended a previous relationship was because the girl started to mirror my passions and interests without sharing her own, not intentionally I think but it was still a bit disappointing to me. I like someone who can be really interested in an experience I share with them and take the time and energy to do so and a small amount of mirroring is fine and can even be really nice if it is genuine. However they also need to share something, not even an experience necessarily (could be an insight into how they view the world which I'm sure will be fascinating from an INFJ, or there taste in music or anything really) that is in some way 'theirs' and I can enjoy because as an ISFP sharing something is almost always a heightened experience for me. Idk if this will help you at all, how's it going with your relationship?
@@lyminlime You guys aren't compatible typology wise. I've seen an Enfj Isfp marriage and it was a disaster. I think Isfps should go for Isfjs.
ISFP here, I learned taking the hard path how I was taught and there were many chance for me to learn it but there were still points that hit hard.
First time clicking into your video but I see what you do. I think so highly of you practising what you teach with these amazing techniques for people to be true and just be better person.
Nope. I don't really think I am that naive as an ISFP. As an informative person, verifying what has been said is usually my starting point, specially when it comes to job offers. I do like contracts, formality and safe grounds. And no, I do not trust or open myself to people so easily as he is saying. That's weird... But I do like being pleased, not gonna lie. And the 'selfish' , 'forgetful' part are ashamely true. Basically, I believe doing good things for people who, for some reason, are excessively nice to me, is a social commitment that I don't want to be forced to accept. Often times I do not return, and go away because these same people get upset and demanding. That is specially true with J's. I believe that if you do nice things to someone, you do because you want, I did not ask for it. Why would you expect so much in return? That's how I do charity as well, not looking back. Emotional dependence leads to a controlling behaviour that I refuse to deal with. My closest friends are the ones who give me freedom to be who I am and respect my personal space.
Thank you for this video. I really needed to listen to this! I am an ISFP and I have experience the things you mentioned in this video. I like it when people don't sugar coat me and actually tell me my faults straight up. Thanks!
Dating an (unhealthy) ISFP was traumatic lmfaoo 😂
Hell yeah it was -INFP
For real lol! -another infp
I am an INTP and I like how long your free style videos are... the more paradigms/perspectives/anecdotes you go into the better, because it gives me more frameworks to view things from!
Loving the use of the Elder Wand hahaha
I’ve never felt so called out in my life.
That ending, especially, was great! I loved how you talked to us up front but gave us hope and how to work on the weaknesses. I felt the love. Thanks!
“They believe they have a spiritual connection to luck” - looool how did you know this? 😂
Ouch ouch ouch. Such a great “it hurts so good” lecture here. But, I do have to admit: I consider myself a mature ISFP. I have taken responsibility for my actions even when it’s extremely uncomfortable. What I have learned is that personal growth is best achieved through extremely uncomfortable experiences, and the more I do it, of course the stronger (and better of a person) I become. I am quicker to recognize my faults and own up to them. And you know what, I actually have more self respect and esteem for it.
ISFP here, had INTP girlfriend who used covert contract, didn't work and it's not going to work, and the relationship ended.
She would only complain after the fact that i don't do things for her because she did, and i'd call her out that she shouldn't do it if she doesn't want to or if she expects something in return, she'd better say it to me me, so i have ability to say no, and might do that, which could piss off the INTP or ESFJ for example, because i'm taking their ability to care for me.
That glorifications sure worked for a long time tho, but enough experiences usually leads to verify, especially when it comes to trust with money, because i don't trust anyone with that .
P.S thanks for the typing session Chase , great content, keep calling out every single type for their bullshit so they can actually better themselves instead of being ignorant . :)
Being that an ISFP girl used me and led me on for YEARS, pretty well confirms the manipulative abilities of ISFPs.
Or it could be that im an oblivious overly-trusting INTP doormat, or a combination of the two. Most likely the latter. LOL
I'm an INTJ female and I FINALLY understand why my boyfriend ghosted me- he's an ISFP! lol Thanks C.S. Joseph!
Wooowww... incredible indepth assessment. Loved my isfp deeply and had to walk away. I was the only real friend if not only friend left. I'm an INT/FJ. The counselor go figure! This explains why so many artists go through deep struggles with mental health. Could never quite figure the complexities... so obvious now!
The familial covert contracts binding them, as well as the refusal to take responsibility, be in reality or express themselves authentically without the 'act'.. which had become a self imposed reality.. but in actuality a prison. Heartbreaking really!
Spot on with this! My husband is a ISFP, I love him for the good and bad but this is a really great tool for him! You have a talent, thank you for making this video!
"Maybe you're lucky watching some truth here", Nailed it :D (INTJ)
I am always suspicious of someone who acts nice or compliments me, I automatically become defensive.
im sorry but I just laughing at 23:47 *head tilt* "How many of you ISFPs out there are being selFISH"
Informative, responding, control. This is exactly how I was raised (boarding school values). Now you have me interested in matching types to both different sub cultures and different nationalities. ISPF for example sounds very Japanese.
make your lectures LONGER CHASE! I NEED MORE INFORMATION!
Get me more subs then
Hey, I found your channel the other day. I find your honesty extremely refreshing. I watched the how to type anybody playlist and was fascinated. The first actually helpful system that makes sense and works. I have already noticed I am able to interact with people better. I'm still not very good at it but I'm excited to finally have a plan to improve myself in this area. Keep up the good work and speak truth.
ISFP here! A lot of the ranty stuff on here would have normally made me feel bad about myself. I’ve always been super paranoid that I’m selfish probably Bc I know I can be selfish and self centered even though I genuinely don’t want to be. But I had a few revelation moments in my relationship with my ex where I actually humbled myself to see I really wasn’t that great and that I really hurt him Bc of my selfishness. but then I realized that it’s ok to see the bad parts of myself, that I will be fine and it doesn’t have to define me. Instead I can focus on changing and becoming better and I get to take responsibility for who I’m becoming, it’s not just good luck or bad luck that determines my outcome, it’s my choices and actions. I now value to truth way more than flattery even if it hurts me because I don’t want to hurt others anymore. Thank you for the kick in the butt, Bc ironically the fear of being selfish and bad was keeping me that way. But once you can see the darkest part of yourself and accept it, you can actually start working on it and move forward in growth.
Thank you, thank you!
ISFP here. The hardest thing I've ever had to do was face my own shame. A few years ago I reached the point where I was becoming abusive and offensive towards others, convinced that I was the victim. It's not a time of my life I'm proud of.
As a kid I was severely physically abused, as well as emotionally abused. What effect would this have, especially on an ISFP?
I'm an infp. Similar situation.
I'd like to know the response...
I think we turn into our esfj shadow and do harm to othersv_v
That might be, am on such loop myself now it seems
Stockholm syndrome for the most part.. lacking ability to feel the people around you.. becoming a narcissist yourself if not careful.. not just one thing.. highest chance of being a dismissive avoidant..
Absolute truth is real! 💯 Thank you! "That's *your* truth" has always gotten on my last nerve! - INFP
This video really has me questioning my type. I really did not relate to the work-scenarios. I've always been a very hard worker. I actually do work hard, I don't just manipulate by trying to look like I am. Now, at home, I can plan on doing this or that and mismanaged time and end up screwing off and not accomplishing what I intended. Other times I accomplish so much even at home. I'm sometimes lacking solid direction, and have a hard time making decisions about my future. I had trouble with humility as a kid/teen/young adult, but mostly I was just surrounded by people emotionally manipulating or shaming me, and I'm not apologizing to people so they can further use it against me, I'm not that dumb. To those I have solid relationships with where there is trust, I can definitely admit wrong and show humility. I do agree shame holds me back and embarrassment is real. I also don't ever feel flattered by esfj. Instead I feel led or bossed around. Maybe I just suck at typing and maybe I and all my esfj friends are really some other type....ugh, this is frustrating.
Same 🤔
Amazing. Finally a video again, and about ISFPs! Great.
Thanks for that Joseph.
Wow! I tought i was an INFP for so over a year... and now my eyes are open, all the gaps are filled
I will never criticize you for spending too much time explaining a concept. This INTP likes all the depth you put into things and the more angles you hit the idea from the better I can digest it.
Well this has turned into quite the journey today finding your videos. My post before this is probably really classic.I didn't really realize it but I hurt a lot people even just last week...
My ISFP's wife' art is sewing. She thinks everyone should be wearing masks to reduce covid transmission. She has been sewing masks to give to friends. She won't sell them for anything. Her covert contract is that you are a horrible person if you don't wear the mask that she spent so much time and love making.
I’ve just discovered my personality type (ISFP) recently and are looking for resources for self improvement. I’m so happy to have stumbled upon this video, and I want to thank you so much, for making this. All my life people around me have been saying nice things to me, and this kind of honest “lecture” is what I really need to keep me grounded and realise the reality of being me. It frightened me a bit, how accurate this personality analysis can be. I would also be so glad if anyone can share with me any other resources (books, podcasts, youtube videos, etc) to help improve the weaknesses of an ISTP.
I had an interesting, to say the least, upbringing where I would "battle" the Fe of my maternal ESFJ grandmother. One time, she reminded me that I had written some descriptors about myself on a paper that she still had in her possession. She stated, with an air of overperformance about how hurtful I was towards myself in those descriptors. How terrible she felt about it. How painful it was to read what I had written about myself. Not remembering what I wrote I demanded to see that piece of paper. In my mind I wanted to confront those words, my old thoughts, process them and become better. She refused to show me. It was as if, and to me, it was her stating that she "loved" me so much that she was holding onto the burden of grief and negative thoughts that I had about myself. She was the "keeper" of my pain. Because of this, she was doing me this huge favor, or service and I owed her, enter covert contract. I saw this and this infuriated me. Looking back at all of it, those type of interactions and realizations strengthened my resolve.
Its so fucking funny how u are saying we can get spoiled and bratty and selfish and unresponsible so easily, while me sitting here knowing very well that I eradiate all of these things at this very moment… LOL / 20 yo Isfp female aspiring to change🙃
I get why some people complain,but you do you, i enjoy your work
Lol Chase, sounds to me like you're social engineering Raylin into giving you paintings :) you should buy the future ones :)
YES he's definitely social engineering me.
But the thing is - I let him. LOL!
Don't you worry about me.
@@raylin2057 alright, if you let him, who am I to judge and interfere :) still, I'd buy those paintings if I were him :)
don’t shorten your lectures :(
Thank you for this lecture! find so much accuracy... I often think about myself as a most lucky person in the world, love being glorified, my ambition is to create art - and through this art give message to the people... and all the other things. Thank you, now I know my weaknesses a little bit more -ISFP
CSJ Glorifying Rylan to others on how good her art is lol 🔥
The part where you talked about thought manipulation and the guy who didn’t want to be embarrassed about his secret actually stresses me out bc I’ve done that exact thing 400 thousand times
My weak point would be If someone showed a lot of authentic Fe to make me feel good, Se looked safe and imo the hardest thing to get past is child Ni because even if someone makes me feel good and they look safe sometimes I still get that DANGER feeling.
It's about beating that child Ni.
Just because ISFPs go along with you doesn't mean they're being manipulated, they're conflict avoidant so they'll knowingly go along agreeing and bullshitting you then ditch you in the end lol Obviously if they do end up buying that lemon car or get scammed it's a different story but they will go along with words but not actions a lot of the time.
Countless times I've felt with would be social engineers this way!!! I literally JUST did that last week. To a salesman who CAME TO MY HOUSE. "Yes wow thank you for your time do you have a business card? If I don't have one I'll forget everything. Thanks your very good at what you do sir! Have a good day, stay cool now! (sweet giggle)- shuts door emedeatly throws away buisness card"
😂🤣😂🤣😂
This was super interesting to listen to, especially as an ISFP. This really confirmed my ISPness but I started getting worried because as soon as you started saying all those flattering things, my brain started immediately throwing up the red flags going "ABORT ABORT ABORT" and getting ready to call out some serious bullshit. It wasnt until the end that I realized its just because i've already been burned and jaded before and that action of being jaded and held accountable and losing a lot of what I cared about (through my own hubris, and not realizing how my actions hurt others) really made me a more cautious person and more willing to sit back and do research before allowing my Se to immediate respond with how my Fi is feeling at the time. It took forever to learn that, but I'm really glad I did and at this point in my life I like to THINK im thriving, but im my own worst critic and I know I still have forever and a day to get where I need to be. I used to let Ni child sit there and go 'go big or go home! you're only ever gonna work for the Big names!' and I still think that, but theres better checks in play. I have better people in my life. I know I cant just leap, I have to build platforms and steps and know that I'm able to actually achieve goals. IDK as an ISFP this was super hardd hitting, but also super enlightening (even though i was scared i wasnt an isfp because im just so paranoid of those coming in and falling into the flattery trap). So thank you! And also, haha, as someone else said, I actually did watch this while working on art for my job. Go figure!
Go figure
I fluctuated between chuckling and wincing. Nailed it.
P.S. I'm pained that you confirmed my fear that my son will be vulnerable to ESFJs.
~intj mother to isfp
@ecuadorstreetdogrehab
Yeah, please protect him at all cost. I'm an isfp and a lot of esfjs have tried to manipulate me. Please make sure to let your son know these facts and protect himself
ISFP here and I am mechanical, it's true as he says. You Tube makes anyone not lazy or full of fear to many degrees mechanical. Watch a video and watch it a few more times if needed then DO IT!
I love the way GOD MADE ME in his image.
Wearing my crown today!
Hey chase.
You seem to be more yourself in your space. But hey... Only at 1 minutes now....
20 min in, you're calm. Seems like you are a happy chase again.... I'm happy about that...
I like it when important lectures are long, keep it going!
Nice new thumbnail design, it looks very professional!! Great job
Is that a Harry Potter wand 😂
I am Isfp and loved this video i just want to destroy all my kryptonite and be a better isfp thank you for this video!
Such an accurate breakdown. I have a few things to say from my perspective. Everything is a skill that can be trained. Once you get screwed a few times your Ti will start working a from time to time , also the responsibility aspect is a matter of hardening your ability to shame , it is possible.
The one thing I object is that you behave like all successful ISFPs moneywise are artists with the conventional way. Are there no other ways to express art , Everything can be an art , Everything and anything.
my experience (and idk if this guy is isfp. but i can't imagine what else he is (maybe istp?)) with an istf friend of mine is tht, whenever i do really nice things for him that he even asks me for, when he owes me back, he tends to ghost me. next time we meet, he has elaborate reasons why he didn't pay me back at the start and then he talks about how his nervousness afterwards made him not want to call me. i may just be a chump here; that's honestly the conclusion i came to and just stopped doing all things for him unless he pays me back right away in a tic for tat contractual fashion.
it's fascinating hearing him explain his world because it's so silly. he regularly gives himself permission to do things based on a series of erroneously ascribed motivations.
it's also fascinating how he has trouble grasping theoretical concepts. whenever i explain physics or quantum physics, he needs me to explain it in a child like style for him to get it. but the next second he'll be explaining how a car works mechanically and i will be blown away. idk what those things mean. it's just interesting.
i feel like i can see right through most people without a thought. but him, it's extremely alien compared to the typical human... or, at least, he wants it to seem this way. he's always seeing what others say and denying that this is the case for him. someone may say, "we all know that this is the reason people do this such thing." he will say, "for me, i see it this way cuz i just want this..." most people would see what he wants as some inconsequential factor. it gives everyone pause and they look at each other and laugh in some shrug of the shoulders, wtf type reaction. we all laugh at it. but i think to him, it's often not funny or he honestly doesn't realize why it's funny.
Ryan K yes i hate physics
getting roasted by an ENTP for 1 Hour straight.
Mr Joseph, thank you for your series of lectures. I have been finding them very interesting and your delivery clear, and at times very humorous. Thank you.
I have looked at personality typing before, many times. It is an interesting idea that I can see could be used for the greater good or ill depending on how it is applied. This is one reason that I particularly liked your positive messages, (particularly in lectures giving descriptions of the types), as I think your combination of theories give tools easily used by many but, more so, because I am very aware that poorly motivated, (or even sometimes well meaning), stereotyping can have devastating effects.
I have previously tried MBTI self-testing and found results that were not consistent over time, which give me doubts. I find your theory using eight facets of a given personality, reflected to give a further 2 sides to the mind far more plausible and intriguing.
However, when I try applying your ideas, I appear to be able to find a result for others, but not for myself. You have covered this point, stating that trying to type yourself or someone else of the same type as you will often put you at a disadvantage due natural blind spots that appear to be inherent in the exercise. And from this, predictably, my own predicament with typing myself appears to stems from seeing traits from more than one type that appear to fit me and am not not able to place myself in any one category. (Yet)
I have often felt like a chameleon in life, which can be a good thing, but when trying to type myself it’s like trying to grasp water.
Anyway, I just thought I should add a comment here since I have really enjoyed your videos thus far. Having watched some of your earlier lectures first, I wanted to say thank you for trying to make the world a better place. Now watching the social engineering series it’s getting a bit edgier, although I can see that this direction would be the natural progression of the topic for most people.
Anyway, for what it’s worth, I am glad of your good work and hope you are able to continue for the foreseeable future.
This really helped me (enfp) understand my isfp coworker. They are senior to me, yet it's so obvious they have been resting on their laurels and not pulling their weight. It drives me crazy because my other teammates (mostly isfj) don't seem to see it, or at least don't want to see it, and also because the isfp seems to think they've got me fooled as well. I want to expose them so bad, but I know the correct path forward is for me to go out of my way and befriend them (even though they don't deserve it).
What is your type anyway?
Two things, freestyling I think is working off intuition and if that is what comes naturally to you, you will get far better results than planning. This is how I write academic papers - do a lot of deep reading, let it swirl around in my head, maybe sleep on it, start writing, see what shape it takes and then polish. You do seem to cover all the angles so I think you do in fact have it all together in your head, maybe in the sub conscious?
I am and INTP that just met and fell for an ISFP that has depth and maturity and connected emotionally with my heart at every level...until I friended her on FB and she found out I was a social conservative. Hoping that this video will help me to find a way to convince her that individuals values matter more than their political means to the same end.
Well, how did it go then?
Well, I have completely changed as an ISFP, that is for sure! After losing £130k to a fraudulent business purchase and failing many times in business, I have learnt to be distant calculating and cold at times. I have taken my foot off the pedal in terms of trusting people too soon and embodied a more objective view on life, divorcing from my emotions within. This has helped in deciphering what is authentic and inauthentic while remaining level headed throughout. The philosophy of Stoicism has helped A LOT with regards to internally validating myself, rather than fishing for flattery. Also, playing piano is the voice I use to convey my emotions on a day to day basis. In my opinion, objectivity is KEY to not being manipulated and for guiding oneself for making better life decisions.
Im isfp and im not that naive when come to being exploited or manipulated. I always have that kind of attitude of "trust.. but verify" so i always test everyone that stand with me
The worst and most toxic human being I have ever met was an ISFP.
And I have nothing positive to say about an ESFJs...their "ideal mate"
From my perspective they are meant for each other.
dseer13 wow that’s heavy business
Infj here trying to figure out how to understand my ISFP boyfriend.
This helps so much as I'm able to mimick.
i can see that i dont take responsbility for my problems. I always try to look the other way and not solve my problems. This is affecting my school and money at my home. I hope i will be able to improve this aspect of my weakness.
"you're not all that and a bag of chips" LOL I love that. When you do INFP, could you please be way, way more harsh and blunt?
just out of curiosity, are you infp (...or are you asking for the bluntness due to another reason...)?
@@josephaether377 I am INFP. I would never just ask Chase to do that for another type! lol I want Chase to be super harsh with the truth or it probably won't sink in.
We'll not finish our duties at work if we don't find it useful or if we aren't interested in what we're doing.
INTP is next! I’m so excited, I can’t wait!
Make them comfy, always ask for their opinion, done.
If that doesn't work, guilt them. They'll hate you for it though.
@@Hybe123 yeah we will and you will burn any loyalty we have shown to you in the past, even though you took it for granted or might not even have noticed or recognized it for being loyalty. And for that we could ghost you or just up and disappear when next you need us. Never to be heard from again. Unless you find our cave, removed from any natural light. But if you do, we will either make you pay for the experience or we will pack up and move just to get away from what we see as unwanted confrontation.
@@Hawkido no problem, I don't speak from experience :D I just think I know INTPs well enough :D
@@Hybe123 lol. don't ever try to deeply guilt an INTP unless your guilt is solidly founded in logic or you have a near unbreakable tie to them.
Hybe Haha our Ne parent can SEE your intentions though. Unless you’re GOOD...like NTJ good lol
Oh... my... god... this is the most informative and helpful lecture I’ve heard about personal growth (obviously it’s so much better since it’s type specific) and I’m trying to keep listening but it is so hard to accept some of these things I know are true. Jesus.
Earlier today I needed to research some topics while multi-tasking and I was fairly salty at how long the videos/podcasts were bc I had this video on my radar and wanted to get to it. Then when you said this video was prob going to be shorter I was like damn it lol. I'm v curious for the INTP soc eng vid--I don't think I actually know any ENTJs but I'm not super skillful at typing yet so maybe I do. Unfortunately (or not, depending) I'd prob LIKE being socially engineered by an INTJ (I'm sure I actually have been at times by a certain INTJ and all I feel is...flattered.) This was interesting, as always.
Thank you ! So true, it feels good to hear that
I definitely believe in absolute truth and absolute good. I absolutely hate when people talk about their different truths, because the truth of the matter if everyone has a different truth, it means that everything is relative, and if you believe everything you'll fall for everything. The thing is I didn't understand absolute truth until I came to christ, so I was probably saying this BS before LOL, but now if I say something is someone else's truth, I'm more so saying it to indicate to them that that solely is what they believe, but it's not the absolute truth.
That is very true about the embarrassment thing, so I had to realize that if someone is trying to embarrass me, they are going to reap what they sow, and also realizing that the opinions and the validation of other people is not what drives me, or makes me valuable.
As far as thought manipulation I guess I don't see myself as any better than anyone else at that. I think everyone tries to state their piece, but I have to admit I do purposely try to sway the thoughts of people, but not out of ill intention, or to even really get what I want. It's basically so people can be freed of any bondage that they are in, or anything false that they might be believing.
You might as well do the good thing, because if you don't do the good thing, you're going to be called out for it. That has happened to me a couple of times.
I have actually always been a hard worker, and never understood why there were people that would look like they are working and they weren't doing anything. A lot of the times it was just because they were good with people they were allowed to get away with it, and that was always something that bothered me, because I would work super hard and never get recognized, and then get treated like crap. So now, I do everything for the glory of god, because I know that God will recognize my hard work, and bless me for it.
I think the problem is if you don't acknowledge us, and the work that we do, and people around us are doing things they're not supposed to be doing... we might just leave and do what we want like them, and not feel bad about it when you confront us, because you're not treating everybody with the same courtesy. We know it's wrong, and we feel guilty about it after some contemplation, but we still won't want to confront it because we don't feel like it's completely wrong since other people were doing it as well, and you are not confronting them.
See I get this selfish thing a lot, but don't actually think isfps are any more selfish than anyone else. I think part of what it is isfps are often not selfish, so when we actually do something that's selfish, it's a surprise to people, especially the people that use us. I was friends with a few enfjs and I would always be doing things for them, but when I ask for something in return, it seems like they could never help. I had noticed with them they will often gather a group of friends to get their needs met, and it never seemed authentic because if that person couldn't meet their needs, they were no longer valuable.
I typically take responsibility for my actions, but I have been around a lot of people that do not take responsibility for their actions, and often end up blaming things on me, so it kind of put me into a mindset where I had to think about whether something really was my fault or really was not my fault. I came to find that a lot of the things I was being blamed for, were not my fault. But I think when people believe they can manipulate us, everything becomes our fault.
I agree that isfps are easily manipulated, that's why we have to listen to our and I I believe, that is warning us about people I've asked God for the ceramic, he's has given it to me, so when this ESFJ came in the picture about a month ago, yeah he was saying all the things that he thought I wanted to hear, saying all the things that he thought women wanted to hear etc and I would have fell for that 5 years ago, but now it's like x-ray vision for me. I think the secrets to having that kind of vision, is God of course, but letting go of self-glorification, as well as validation from people.
I don't really attach myself to too much nowadays, and so people can't manipulate me as easily.
If I sense somebody is trying to manipulate me, for a certain outcome, then now I just put it on the table so they can realize they don't need to try to manipulate me to get what they want. When you're not quite as concerned about the appearances of things, people cannot control you concerning those things. I realize the shallowness of appearances, so now when people compliment me it's like a minuscule second gloat and then I'm done, because really it doesn't matter. What matters is how my heart looks like, not what my art looks like. If somebody is glorify me publicly, I'm automatically going to think they are after something. And I usually don't want it.
But I think the issue here is if the ESFJ is trying to manipulate people, they are going to have to look at themselves cuz didn't you get in an accident or something? It might not be people putting you in a headlock, but God always repays when we do things we're not supposed to. I think you can't really blame someone you manipulated saying they don't want to take responsibility. You need to take responsibility for being manipulative. That is funny about the covert contract.
I've never heard an ESFJ do it, but I have had several ENFJ people do it
That's why I try to be self sufficient, so to deter people from such things. I didn't really like reading until the Bible and it gave me eye to see these kinds of things. Looking back on my luck, and guess it wasn't looking all it was actually me reaping what I sewed. ISS can do good by others, even if they do not do good by us and again we will reap a blessing from that. It usually isn't going to be serious popularity etc, but our needs being met in peculiar ways.
Great, great video and very relevant for the times! Thank you for sharing!
Wow that strike a chord. Chase, any other books I should read as an isfp. My lucky day finding this video.
I got “Principles” by Ray Dalio but what was the 1st one? I suck at spelling. Couldn’t get the insta of the artist... can you spell it for me please?
Some brutal honesty here. I like it.
haha I'm loving theses new names and symbols, can't wait to see all the rest.
ENTP is rogue, INTJ is ranger. You're welcome :D
Been waiting for INFP version like forever ;-)
I'm an intj (female) dating an isfp (male) and I can totally relate to this.
This was a very helpful video.
you sure you arent an ENTP?
@@CSJoseph Honestly I don't feel like I'm an intj but all the different mbti tests keep on telling me that I am an intj. Though I'm highly skeptical about the tests and its accuracy so I can't argue on that.
it's really nice how you can show us the good side of types that we don't use to get so good along with.. and how to do the best possible for us out of it ..that it's REALLY useful for me, than you really much !!!
People have to be willing to watch videos that do not apply to them
Thankyou so much, I'm getting to know an ISFP, I was so scared of mistyping and everything you talked about hit home and now I know what I am facing. Signed INTJ.
Wow I either completely I am not am ISFP or definitely disagree with most of the stuff you said.
Doesn't seem like me either 🤷🏼