Onkyo Home Theater Receiver No Sound Fix - DTS Chip Re-Flow
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- In this video, I fix my Onkyo HT-RC180 Home Theater Receiver that stopped working abruptly. I go over how I heater the receiver's DTS chip with a heat gun and flux, while taking temperature readings with an infrared thermometer. Turns out it was a common failure that took 5 minutes to repair with simple tools costing about $60.
Tools:
Thermometer:
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Heat Gun:
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Flux:
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Heatsink:
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
1:13 Flux Application
1:58 DTS Chip Re-Flow Procedure
3:38 Power On Test
4:57 Added a Heatsink to the DTS Chip 
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Thank you so much! this saved my not only money, but headache from continuous troubleshooting.
I performed this fix, and it worked like a charm! thanks again!
Awesome!
I was fooled by someone from fb marketplace and bought a onkyo stereo. I did this heatgun fix and I got it working. Thank you for this video.
Glad it worked out for you!
Worked for a year. Now its dead as a Dodo.
Thanks from Italy! This Sunday I repaired my Onkyo 818 from that issue, the temperature was raised to 260 C and it was enough to solve!
Ciao Matteo, perdonami. Come hai risolto? Hai pulito i contatti della piedinatura del cip?
THIS IS GREAT! I'm SO happy, my beloved ONKYO TX-NR 5009 is WORKING AGAIN after Using a HOT AIR BLOWER on the DTS CHIP. I've heat it up to 180 Degrees CELSIUS, measured it with a gun temperature meter. Now I have ordered heatsincs and I hope this BEAST will run for a very long time. THANK YOU for the VIDEO!
I’m glad you were able to fix it. Mine is still working. If it fails, I’ll just do the same procedure again.
@@Upscaled_HT Thanks mate, I am truly grateful and incredibly happy that the ONKYO is up and running again. It is a BEAST of a receiver and absolutely no need to buy another expensive amplifier or receiver. Surely such an expensive receiver should last up to 30 years? The amplifier part never actually breaks, but the electronics are the problem. Thanks again!
@@EXTRA300s I have the same receiver with the same problem. Is yours still working? Can't wait to give this a try. It's an awesome sounding receiver. Thanks for the temperature suggestion.
@@stevet7487 mine is working..JUST PERFECT! and I'm so happy with this solution. I do have a cooling heatsinc on the DTS and the other flat cip, ordered the heatsincs online in China for 8 USD include chipping. I wish you luck mate 😃👍
@@EXTRA300s Is it still working? Thanks in advance!
THANK YOU. My SR-707 started needing a warm-up and power-cycle to get the speaker channels online. Only 5 minutes at first, but as time went on that grew to 10, then 20, then stopped working altogether.
Invested in a flux pen and IR thermometer, blasted the DSP up to 200°C with a heat gun, left it alone to cool down below 40°C, plugged it back in and voila, good as new!
That’s awesome! Glad it worked out for you.
can u please guide me on how u used a flux pen, because u wouldnt have been able to drip the flux around the chip as done by "Upscaled" really nervous about doing this myself :p
Funnily enough it started acting up again last week so I'll need to repeat the procedure, but if it doesn't work then I just have to buy a new amp, which is what I would have to do anyway.
@@Upscaled_HT Just repeated the procedure successfully again, loving this trick 😁
Thank you for the help. My Onkyo TX-R616 is working now. I am happy!
Glad it worked for you!
@@Upscaled_HT Unfortunately it only lasted a few days. Anyways thanks for your help.
Just did this to my 11 year old Onkyo tx NR 809. I used rosin flux for electronics as others mention in the comments. I also used a large heat gun took a few tries finally got it hot enough where smoke was coming out a little . It’s been working for a day. Time will tell but I’m glad to have my surround sound back.
I hope it keeps working. If it stops working, you can repeat the process and try going a little hotter for longer.
Is it still working?
It stopped working after a month or so. I will try it again with a heat gun.
I applied solder with the heat gun for the second time. It’s working again. The circuit board it a little discolored from the heat. Didn’t use a thermometer just got it hot enough to start smoking. It’s been working after the second fix for about a week. Not sure if it’s a good idea to put a piece of aluminum on top of the chip to act as a heat shrink?
I think its best to solder it with no clean flux and the apply a big copper heatsink and a fan which blows from top on the heatsink.... will try it in the next two weeks
I have a TX-SR604 that I use in a stereo 2.1 set up and she's working fine. You could practically cook waffles on the vents after a while of use, but its hanging in there. Nice thx unit. Great idea with the heat sink. I've seen people add active cooling fans to some of their rigs.
My TX-NR757 is cooking it's components inside my equipment cabinet and now even in off state I smell burning plastic.
This also worked on my TX-NR818! I had to try at least 3 times, heating up longer every time and it finally solved the issue. I have placed a home made heat dispencer with heat transfer tape. Crossing fingers this will work in the long run!
Any update so far?
Thanks for the great, so close to tipping my System, reheated with flux and works like a charm.
Thank you
No problem! Glad it helped.
Thank you for this vid! I have a TX-NR 1007... it started switching in and out of audio a couple weeks ago... then died. I did a hard reset, and it actually brought it back (for a couple days).. but I think it was only due to it having cooled off... I followed your vid, and it's running like a champ now!
I think I need to open my components now and then to clean them.. it was covered in dust inside. Anyways, I got it all cleaned up, even scrubbed the worst of it with a toothbrush & Iso 80%... but only when compressed air wasn't doing enough.
I also installed the raspberry Pi heat sink you suggested, just in case.
CHEERS!
Really glad this worked for you!
@@Upscaled_HT Hoping to pick your brain... as stated, I've got a TX-NR1007... fixed my not getting the speakers to initialize using your resolder DTS/DSP chip....
But I'm getting an odd issue that has the potential to be bad as well. I turn on the unit to do some online gaming, sometimes it works fine... and sometimes not.... the speakers array initializes and I see them on the led readout.... but I I don't hear anything from the speakers... when it's going to 'work'.. I'll hear a little tiny click or pop from the speakers.
So, I can let it sit for a few minutes.. zippo.. no sound. I turn it off... turn it back on... and NOW the speaker array isn't lighting up in the display (and still no sound... durp)
Buuut... if I leave it on for a few minutes.. (5-10 is good), THEN turn it off, then back on... the array comes on, I hear the tiny *pop* from my speakers, and everything works fine...
Any ideas what this is?... using it in 9.2 and love it.. would hate for it to die on me as the build quality (with the exception of the 3030) REALLY went downhill after this unit
@@jamesrobinson2086 If you have nothing to lose, you can try the same procedure for more time and higher temperature. Other than that, you would probably have to take in for service but it would probably cost more to fix than what the receiver is worth, although it would be cheaper than a new 9 channel receiver. I haven't any 9 channel receivers for less than $900 these days.
It's one of those defects that should have been recalled!
The fact Onkyo did nothing to help us repair this all-too-common problem is why I'll never buy anything made by Onkyo again.
I have the TX-NR414, same problem. No sound!
I got some flux & heat gun & gave it a go. Let it cool then tested it & it didn’t work. Tried again with more flux & heated for longer & got a bit of smoke coming out under the motherboard & let it cool, tried again & totally worked. Super stoked, thanks for your help. Repair cost $11.95 for flux.
Sweet! Glad it worked out.
Is your receiver still working?
So after 10 years of service my Onkyo TX-NR809 finally experienced the dreaded DTS chip solder symptom. Back in the day when I bought the receiver I heard about the issue and so I installed two 140mm fans on top of the receiver in a pull configuration from day one. After so many years I thought I escaped it by adding the fans but it finally gave in. The speaker icons stopped coming up and I would have to restart the unit in order to get sound. In a matter of a month it went from a restart to few minutes to about 15 mins in order to get sound. Performed this fix with flux with a paint heat gun right under 400 degrees Fahrenheit and also went overboard and added some passive aluminum coolers to every chip on the board. Turned fans around and now running in a push config. It's working like new but only time will tell (Fingers crossed). I lover this receiver to death and only wish Onkyo would have cooled the chips properly. Will keep you guys updated.
Upscaled thank you so much for sharing this video it really helped...
I’m really happy it worked for you! Thank you for the thoughtful comment.
Hey, i have the same receiver with the same issue. I'm waiting on the flux...
Is it still working ?
@@Fancy_PotHead Funny you asked cause about a week ago it started with the no sound issue after 3 months. It needed to warm up for about 20-30 mins to get sound back. Got tired of waiting and bought a Tx-Nr 6050 for $329 open box on Ebay. Have to admit I really like it considering it's bang for the buck compared to likes of Denon and Marantz. Sucks it has no pre-outs but used a Russound ADP-1.2 line lever adapter to hook up the Crown XLI 1500 for the front towers and is working really well. Really crossing my fingers this one lasts as long or longer than then the previous one but Onkyo did add a nice cooler and fan to the chip and HDMI board. Only time will tell once again...
@@An9eL_C damn, so it only lasted about 3 months...? I'm still gonna give it a try.
Then i'll go back to a Yamaha, no way i'm buying another Onkyo 😅 This is the 2nd receiver to have the same issue.
I had a Yamaha for 15 years, gave it away 10 years ago to my cousin.
It's still working.
Interesting i' Just Got 1, 4, $27 @ Thrift Store No Sound, mdL# TX-SR707, i' Just Connected 1-Speaker No Sound, i' CLeaned it 4, a Hour+ it's ALL Lit but no 😮Party Lol, i' Bagged iT up 4 Now, Got Other Projects, i' Wonder ? WouLd i' Need To Connect More Speakers 4, ? Sound Any Advice
Thanks, dude! Worked for me on my HT-R990.
gracias excelente TIP, funcional luego de calentar con la pistola de soldar el chip por dos minutos, se resuelda y vuelve a funcionar sin problemas
Que bueno! Que lo disfrutes!
Thanks for big help...great job!!!
Thank you!
Make sure you use flux designed for electronic circuit boards and not the type for plumbing. The correct type has rosin in it and will gently remove oxidation on the metal pins. Plumbing flux has acid in it and will corrode the circuit board connectors and will eventually cause failure.
Thanks for the tip! Great info.
Just fixed my 808 in 5 minutes. The temp got up to 450 unintentionally, but worked first time. I had the heat gun on it for 30-40 seconds.
Before trying this, I placed a 60 W lightbulb on the chip, and the speaker array came on. That confirmed to me that the chip was the problem. I found this method in a different video.
Thanks for your post! I was getting ready to scrap the unit.
Cam you tell me how huch time you placed a 60 watt bullb above it? Thanks in advance.. I have a tx sr 506 with no sound.. But on display there is showing dsp logo.. Does this model have a speaker array indication on display? Pls help me in info.
@@rebmaxdigilabs2161most likely yes.
Thanks for the video. I’m gonna throw my 2 cents in because, reasons… The heat needs to be hot enough the solder begins to glimmer/shimmer at that point the solder is reflowing and you can kill the heat. Very important: do not touch, bump, or disturb the chip while the solder is reflowing/liquid. It’s nearly impossible to realign the chip pins by hand exactly to the correct pads on the board. I learned this the hard way…. I did this repair to my 609 about 2 years ago and has worked like a champ since. Until last week. Will try reflowing again. Cheers
Very good advice. Most of the time this is a long term but temporary fix. 2 years is really awesome!
Did the second reflow work? Thanks in advance!
@@vortexor1 no, unfortunately she was on borrowed time. However with her demise I’ve repurposed her transformer for a small spot welder I’m getting ready to build. Cheers
@@humblyrightI want to see you use this spot welder. Nice re-use!
@@TristanVash38 sorry to disappoint, I ended up buying one instead, the build videos on the internet, specifically RUclips seem very sketchy to me & I try not to exceed my voltage comfort zone of 12v unless i’m very confident or very desperate…
I trew my Onkyo in the waste bin. Back to old skool fully analog 70's amplifier that, won't die, and if they, you won't fix with a hairdryer, but with knowledge of real amplifiers.
Hey guys, i just got some extreme noise appeared like interference in my loved HT R390, don't know what's the problem, sounds like radio(through AUX in) with a very bad signal, other inputs - nothing, just radio-like noise...
Had it cooled down always by 2 fans because it was very hot from being even new. Did a factory reset, but nothing.
Any help info is much appreciated!
I have a Yamaha HT550 still working well after 20 years and has DTS
They just don't make them like they used to.
hello, when an Onkyo amplifier or any brand only works with multichannel outputs, can it be saved or does it have to be discarded?
don't you think the heat gun blew the flux away? Or how is that supposed to work
i have a 2002 wrat onkyo whose chip fried like 5 months after it was bought new, so obviously it was still under warranty. they put a new one in and it's been fine for damn near 20 years, even with cat hair all over the board because he used to lay on it constantly.
but now the dolby is dropping out every now and then, but a light whack will get it going again, anyone have any idea if that's just a broken connection somewhere or
Is your receiver still working after your repair?
Thanks! I was pissed off & ready to toss it. Working fine now! Used the new heat sink as well. $60.00 is better than another $600.00
That’s awesome!
Just did this fix on my TX-NR609... Used my heat gun and got it to about 400°... Worked perfectly!!!
Awesome man! Glad it worked for you.
Is 400℉ right ? I’m trying to fix my NR609 , I use my heat gun to 220°C but I didn’t see the smog…
I have a 509 and 609 with no sound, I tried with heat gun but no luck,
I didn’t go higher than 280 maybe and didn’t work.
Maybe I should try up to 400F ?
I was afraid not to burn up the chip
My 609 suddenly lost its sound last month while I was on vacation. No idea why. Is the board layout the same? How did you know what chip to heat?
OMG it actually worked, thanks You very much You sabes me a lot of money
Glad it worked for you!
Mine stopped working on the left...
Only right speaker works now, or when i use mono mode, left works too.....
Did exactly this. Though my flux did not include a fine tip. Ended up spreading it with a toothpick. Started to heat it up. Saw a bit of smoke from the underside. Can only assume it was heating too much. Only went for about 30 seconds. Its working as of NOW. Will see tomorrow...and the next day, and the next. Thanks for this video.
Glad it helped you out!
Is it still working? Thanks in advance!
Bro teac AV receiver Center chanel back sorrounding good work but front lift right chanels not sound bro plz reply complaint???
How can you tell which chip is the DTS chip? I have an integra DTD 9.9 with the same problem, but my hdmi board looks different.
Where do find spare parts in South Africa
mixed result so far, had to go to 230c to get it to take, still evaluating, had a couple instances on first try with garbed output, second might have worked (higher temp), added heat sinks
That was my plan but my initial attempt worked out. Good luck!
This is amazing! Mine does have sound but only stereo. If I play Dolby or DTS, it makes weird noises... Would this fix apply?
whitout flux lichid is any problem?
I have same problem ONKYO TX-NR906. No sound.
How did you attach the heat sink to the chip? What thermal paste did you use?
I used the adhesive that was pre applied but cpu paste should work too.
Hi, so i have an SR-707 which has the same story as @Conrad Roberts "started needing a warm-up and power-cycle to get the speaker channels online. Only 5 minutes at first, but as time went on that grew to 10, then 20, then stopped working altogether". i am about to try this on my amp as well (i really hope it works). can i use a hair drying to generate the enough heat and how do u stick the heatsink on the chip?
It may work but it’s harder to concentrate the heat in particular location on the board. Some folk even use a light bulb to do it.
I have the same issue, no sound, on my TX-NR616, I try to do the same, hope it works.
Good luck!
Hi I have a TX-SR313 it has a really long delay when initially powered on. It can take up to 15-20 min before the sound kicks in. I have tried the reset and turning it on and off a few times while waiting for the sound to come on. Once it is on there are no problems works great. Could the dsp chip be the problem is this a sign of it failing ?
Just double checking but you mean 15-20 minutes not seconds right? If it’s minutes, there definitely a problem. It’s hard to say if that’s it. I did this to mine cause I had nothing to lose. The repair cost would have been way over the value of the unit so I just went for it. You could try heating a little and see if lowers the time to click on.
@@Upscaled_HT yes 15 to 20 min
Did you fix the problem???? Did all the relays click as usual? I had the same problem and the time it took to start was getting longer and longer. It got to almost a couple of hours!! Then, one day I was watching Netflix, listening to dolby's full glory and suddenly....no more sound. Screen shows all the things it always showed. Relays are fine and switching properly at the start. It just wont sound anymore. If anyone can help us it would be amazing.
@@elblopex unfortunately no. Took it apart kept what we could use and recycled the rest :(
Was ist das für eine Flüssigkeit die da aufgespritz wird! Ich habe den TX-nr 515 auch ohne Ton und möchte das auch probieren!
What is this for a liquid in this injection? I have the TX-nr 515 without sound and would like to try that too!
Flussmittel ist ein chemisches Reinigungsmittel, das vor und während des Lötprozesses von elektronischen Bauteilen auf Leiterplatten verwendet wird. Flussmittel wird sowohl beim manuellen Handlöten als auch bei den verschiedenen automatisierten Prozessen verwendet, die von PCB-Auftragsherstellern verwendet werden. Der Hauptzweck des Flussmittels besteht darin, die Metalloberflächen durch Reinigen und Entfernen von Oxiden und Verunreinigungen für das Löten vorzubereiten. Oxide werden gebildet, wenn Metall der Luft ausgesetzt wird und können die Bildung guter Lötverbindungen verhindern. Das Flussmittel schützt auch die Metalloberflächen beim Löten vor Reoxidation und unterstützt den Lötprozess, indem es die Oberflächenspannung des geschmolzenen Lots verändert.
www.tempoautomation.com/blog/understanding-soldering-part-4-how-to-use-flux-when-soldering-electronics/
www.amazon.com/Clean-Tacky-Soldering-Flux-Grams/dp/B07DCD9M3P/ref=sr_1_9?dchild=1&keywords=flux&qid=1627173532&sr=8-9
Hello Sir, I have the same problem, technician say that this chip (BAHDM-0157-IF) has malfunctioned. Does your process of repair will do on my unit. (TX NR-3008)?
If it has the same chip, it may work. If the technician is going to replace the chip anyway, it’s probably worth a shot.
My sound is intermittent and I don’t know what to do
Hola saludos, yo tengo un integra DTR 30,3 yo hice el mismo procedimiento y no funciono y creo que necesitare cambiar el chip dts, pero no se donde conseguirlo, gracias 👍
Yo tampoco sabría. Puedes llamar varios centros de servicio de Onkyo e Integra a ver si tienen el chip disponible para la venta.
Hola en aliexpress encuentras el chip original usado pero operativo, tambien venden nuevo, pero alternativo.
I have an Onkyo TX-NR818 with no sound. Found a Flux Paste at a local Home Improvement store and got a heat gun and laser thermometer. My problem is trying to find a Heat Sink for the DTS Chip. Stereo Repair places and even computer parts stores have no idea what I am talking about when I mention a Heat Sink for a DTS Chip. Where would I find one?
You may not even need a heat sink. It’s a nice to have but not a must have. Try the process and see if it works. Then you worry about finding a heat sink. You find them on Amazon amzn.to/3Pe5ZO9
Called to a larger computer parts store. They did not know what I was mentioning about Heatsink for DTS Chip. They suggested that I contact you which I did. Watched your video again especially when it comes to the Heatsink. Noticed that you mentioned Raspberry Pi Heatsink. Googled Raspberry Pi Heatsink and found many for sale online. Ordered one online.
Hello there..I'm after small advice. I have bought onkyo receiver TX-NR414 second hand yesterday. Connected everything and it worked perfectly. Today, the video is coming through but no sound through hdmi from laptop. The net radio is working well via ethernet cable. Do you think the dts is the issue. I tried to troubleshoot everything but still nothing 😢😢
It's DTS chip. You don't see the video? Open and search DTS chip. After this heet the chip like în video.
Trying this on my TX-NR1008 and adding 2 small computer fans to increase airflow
I sometimes use those ac infinity fans. They work pretty good. amzn.to/3oQG3y2
Any luck with this on your NR1008? I have the same unit and issue. Curious how yours turned out.
@@Segarsj no luck. It worked for a day or sonthen over heated again. Ultimately bought a new receiver from Costco online
I tried the exact steps and I and I was able to make it work very briefly. It does not seem come on anymore. Do you all have any tips?
Since you probably have nothing to lose, you can try going hotter and for longer.
@Josla have you fixed the "no sound" problem with your 5009? I got the same issue with my 3009: heating the dts chip with an air dryer for 2 minutes worked about 5 minutes - after turning on the 2nd relays click displayed the Speaker alignment again and sound played a while but after approx. 5 minutes sound has gone... What would you think? Try it with increasing the temperature und measure it again?
He left a comment he got it working again heating it to about 360 ° f. All the repairs on these run the temp. up that high. Make sure you put a heat sink on it and an exhaust fan on top. www.amazon.com/dp/B07L9M8T8F/ref=cm_sw_r_u_apa_glt_fabc_ECNF13M0Q5YJQ3TDXXAH
@@stevet7487 thank you, Steve . Will try it as soon as heatsink and Fan are delivered.
@@skywelzano2064 Let me know how you come out. I will be doing the same technique on my 5009 and will let you know on I fair.
Hi, I managed to stick the chip but I still don't have sound
You can try going hotter. If that fails, the issue probably lies somewhere else in the receiver.
Dude I can’t find my dsp chip mine looks way different then yours I have the txds787
Does it still work? I did it three times already and after some days it is broken again.
Still working. Sometimes it takes a while to click on so I'm thinking it may fail again. For some folks, it works great. Have you tried increasing the amount heat and time you heat the chip up?
How long did you hold heat gun for?
I filmed it in real time. Maybe less than a minute. I got to the temp I wanted and held it there maybe 15 seconds.
The temperature you are checking is in degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit?
Fahrenheit
@@Upscaled_HT Thanks!
Hello everyone,
I got myself an TX-NR515. It's second hand and it's been tempered with on the power supply board. Does anyone know why this is done? They took out the glass fuse, soldered a new component between the new power cable and board, and it looks like it has an IC replaced. I'm curious to why this modification is put there. I also got something strange going on, on the HDMI board. Fan is not connected and some electrical component is soldered from contact pin to the plug next to it.
Also thanks for the tip, I also got no sound and I'm trying to fix it with a heat gun aswell. Found some loose solerings on the pre amp board, some transistors, so I'm gonna reflow that aswell.
I hope you’re able to fix it.
@@Upscaled_HT nope, there was probably more wrong with it. It lost more features and I couldn't even connect it to the internet via cable. It actually didn't do anything accept then turning on and passthrough the screen. Too bad..
@@markdol5141 I recently had another receiver die on me that I gave away as parts only. It would have cost more to fix than what it was worth.
I am preparing tool and material trying to fix my nr-656 without sound... Do we know the root cause on this issue? Overheat for this chip?
It’s a just a design flaw and not enough chip cooling.
@@Upscaled_HT I successfully did it! With how demostrated in this video. Thank you! I will add one metal cooling piece on this chip to avoid the overheat issue.
Do you know where that chip is located on a Onkyo TX-SR507?
I’m not sure. I think the chip is hard to miss though. I think they all look similar. It should says dts on it.
@@Upscaled_HT Yeah but yours has 2 of them. The one with little legs coming out from it (the one that mine also has), and the one that you heated up (which I cannot find). Could it be on a different board?
I think it should be on the hdmi board. I think it’s the one with a diagonal little white line on one of the corners.
@@Upscaled_HT Looked for it, nowhere in that board.
I don't think mine is this serious. My Bluetooth works but it cuts out quite a bit. I don't know why sound isn't coming from my hdmi, any ideas?
Currently talking to Google support and their advice is as bad as their spelling... what has Google support come to.
Hello! great video! Mine has a different problem (I suppose) because everything clicks and the screen shows everything it should show, but still no sound. What do you think the problem could be? Thanks!
Does your receiver have a speaker matrix on its lcd display. If it does, does it turn on? If it doesn’t have one, you may the same problem I experienced but you just can’t tell since there is no speaker matrix.
@@Upscaled_HT there's no matrix. It has 2 rectangles. One with an A and the other with a B. I tried connecting to the B output but it won't work either (I always used the A configuration because its the one with 5 channels. B config is just stereo)
@@Upscaled_HT i suppose those A and B signs are the same as the matrix but in older/cheaper models like mine. I have an ht-r548
@Upscaled: thank you for this video! is it a specialized flux?
It’s a no clean flux. Bought it on Amazon.
@@Upscaled_HT is there any difference between no clean flux(es)? probably melting point, right?
I thought it was that you don’t have to clean up the residue.
@@Upscaled_HT i will try it again with flux and a heat gun. I will report ;) thank you so much !
About how many units have this issue? Some chips can be damaged by that much heat!
Unsure on how many but it appears to be common. I had nothing to loose really.
It also worked with my HT-R990.
Onkyo HT-R990 hatte keinen Ton mehr und war nicht mehr über das Netzwerk erreichbar. Die Anzeige der Lautsprecher blieb leer.
Thanks for sharing!
@@Upscaled_HT Wanted other to know, that this works with this model, too.
I just bought some flux and heatsinks and will be doing this on my unit. The thing is I don't have a heat gun and will be using an incandescent light bulb to heat up the chip instead (I've been heating the chip with this bulb to fix the unit but the issue keeps coming back if I leave it on for too long, this is why I'll be applying the flux and heatsink). How long do you think I should leave the bulb heat the chip after applying the flux around the chip? I've no expertise in soldering.
Well, I'm about to do it now. Crossing fingers and hoping everything goes well.....
UPDATE : I did it once using the incandescent bulb (the flat spotlight type) letting the chip and flux heat up for about 8 mins. Unfortunately that only fixed it temporarily. I cleaned the chip and surroundings and re-applied the flux around the chip and then let the lamp sit there for about 30 mins instead. I let it cool and even applied a bit of air to disperse the flux that was on top of the chip and when I saw the flux had cooled down, applied some Artic Silver Ceramique 2 thermal paste on top and applied an aluminum heatsink like the one on this video. So far it's been running great for 2 days in a row, I'll update if it stops working.
What kind of flux did you use? I’m seeing many different types.
I used this one. amzn.to/3IyWmHC
Make sure you use flux designed for electronic circuit boards and not the type for plumbing. The correct type has rosin in it and will gently remove oxidation on the metal pins. Plumbing flux has acid in it and will corrode the circuit board connectors and will eventually cause failure.
The problem with all newer electronics, newer meaning post 2002. There is a corporate mandate ordered by the Clinton Administration to stop using lead based solder. Companies of course had to use a different type of solder and over time it looses it's connection to the components. This was the issue with all PS3 and 4's and Xbox platforms. This is the reason why you got the red ring of death on the console. One can reheat the connection to get it to work again, but it will only last for a short time. The only way to fix the issue at the component level is to remove the solder and re apply lead based solder which some companies are using again to combat expensive recalls.
And a whole bunch of laptop gpu's (they ran hot and exposed the fault in as little as 1-2 years!)
Its been 2 years since this vid.
Is it still working?
I have since sold it but I haven’t heard anything from the new owner.
I have Onkyo TX-NR616 and the sound is gone, so this might be the problem. Im a bit confused though, you are fixing it by heating it up? And then you add a heatsink so it make sure it doesnt overheat in the future?!
So is the main problem that the chip has overheated, and the fix is to heat it up?
The problem mostly lies with heating and cooling cycles degrading the solder under the chip over time. This process reheats the solder to melting point again to make a solid connection.
@@Upscaled_HT right, and the Flux is helping with that i guess?
@@Upscaled_HT also, how did you attach the heat zink? WIth glue or what?
@@carnalito80 The flux helps with the soldering process.
@@carnalito80 Mine had a pre applied adhesive.
Curious if the repair is still holding up?
This repair tends not to be permanent. It did fail again but was fixed again. Sometimes the repair can be pretty long lasting though.
dimension of heat sink?
I believe 14mm heat sink should work.
still working? Mine died yesterday.. I did the same process as you. but it lasted for about 2-3 hours...
I will try with higher temperature... Mine didn't smoke. ;-)
Mine is still working. The way I saw it was I had nothing to lose and the receiver was too old to pay for a repair. The fact that it worked for a while is encouraging. I saw a video where someone went much hotter than I did so that may do it. Best of luck.
@@Upscaled_HT that's my thoughts as well. Used 175 Celsius for a minute.. Will up the temp and time tomorrow and see. Thanks
@@AndersBergh hi did it worked for you??
@@ramdass1989 had to increase to 260 degrees Celsius for about a minute.
But the receiver is acting strange. Losses connection to PC. And when it does, I need to turn it of and on hoping for the best.
Sometimes I need to pull the power cord for about 10 minutes to make it connect.
If I was a hifi nerd and often listen to music or watching movies. I would buy a new one.
But this reciver is used as computer /speaker amp during covid homeworking
@@AndersBergh thanks for the reply .. how did you heat it ?
Or you could just go ahead and throw it in the trash if you want to save yourself the headache. I did try using a heat station three times and then I put it where it belongs, in the trash.I bought it for 45$ at a goodwill thinking I got a great deal because I plugged it in and everything worked great until I got home and then found out that it had no
Sound. apparently, this was a common issue with many of the receivers onkyo manufacture during this time due to a DTS chip overheating .kinda sad that onkyo let quality slip away and know I wouldn’t trust buying any of their products . I did check the hours on the display and it registered it just a little over 8,000 hours. They could’ve had a recall on all of them and serviced them but like so many other manufacturers, they hide behind a limited warranty and stick the consumer faulty products.
I might have taken a shot at the fix had I found one for $45. Sorry it didn’t work out.
Anybody tried that with a hairdryer ? Do i absolutely need this "flux" thing ?
My Tx-NR809 has the same issue since 2019, it's been collecting dust ever since... Do you think it would still work ?
You can give it a try. The heat gun can concentrate the heat in a smaller area. Sounds like you have nothing to lose.
@@Upscaled_HT No luck with the hair dryer 😅the little icons did light up like you @ 3:54 though. It didn't before. After it cooled down, they disappeared again.
But still no sound either way.
@@Upscaled_HT It worked with a heat gun. But it never lasts more than 2 minutes of audio... I've ordered the soldering flux and heat sink.
Is your receiver still working ?
@@Fancy_PotHead he mentioned in another post that he sold it and hadn't heard anything from the new owner that it wasn't still working.
@@Gatorzman I see, thx. Well, i got mine to work. Still working so far. Still get a feeling of dread whenever i turn it on 😅
I had onkyo r990.prob is no sound.then i call repairman thdn he fix ing it.its works but after a few days it was gone again. And again.now i put in junk shop in my hhouse.this garbzge ampli.
Sorry it didn't work out for you. I had to junk a receiver last year too. I know the feeling.
Worked the first time and didn't need the flux. I just heated it up to 300 for a little and waited until it cooled. Turned it on and the speakers came right back on.
Awesome!
Hi folks - after 6 month after the "Re-Flow" Procedure , I have the same issue - no sound.... it works well until yesterday! I´ll repeat the session and will do it now with an installed USB Fan (Arktic or similar). I`ll let u know how it works...
How did it work?
@@TehRandomdudeofBANAN same issue over and over again... it works a while after re-flow and after approx 5-6 Months the speaker align in the display is missing - so i have to turn the amp off and on again (4-5 times) until the speaker align is already shown. But hey, this works well for me until a replacement / upgrade for Dolby Atmos in the near future...
@@skywelzano2064 Thanks for answering, alright!
WHERE CAN WE ORDER THAT CHIP ??
i guess nowhere ?? wow...........
@@APPLEVALLEYTIM the chips are rare now, if you did manage to get a brand new one though, you would need to program it to your particular board if you look away from the chip up to the left there is a empty header which takes a ribbon cable, onkyo has a tool that connects to that for factory programming. The actual chips dosent really go bad. Best and permanent fix would to remove the chip and re ball it but that is a royal pain in the ar$e. Good luck!
Plzz reply brother
Hola te escribo en español disculpa
Tengo un Onkyo tx sr604
No me da audio ya intenté con la secadora como cuánto tiempo debo calentar
Tienes que medir la temperatura y mantener como 400 grados Fahrenheit como unos 20-40 segundos. Si no funciona subes la temperatura y tiempo poco a poco.
That is a temporary fix .it will not last
True but it could extend the life of the receiver for a while. You can also try the fix again if it stops working.
These Onkyo A/V units are basic fire hazards. If they run so hot as to desolder connections they exceed 370 degrees f. Unplug the unit and recycle it. Buy a different brand. Mine delaminated. I didn’t trust it at that point. Give Onkyo a lesson in finance, buy a Yamaha or something else.
Its not that they get so hot so the solder melts, its the damn lead free solder that cracks after a random number of heat cycles.
The L is silent in the word Solder. silent L you do not pronounce the L
It's not.
@@RandomBadger21 before you say it's not did you go and look it up in the dictionary. The L is silent like I said. Just like in the word colonel. Why does it have an r sound in it when there is no r in the word colonel?
I replied with a link to the Cambridge dictionary where they actually have the sound to listen too, but seems comments posted with links are removed. Google it and prove yourself wrong. Btw, you also pronounce the l in colonel, otherwise it would be coonel lol
Has anyone else tried this
I'm trying it but don't know if its hot enough. Can't see any pins so I'm not using flux .