Wrong Rook Pawn Endgames | Kids' Class - GM Ben Finegold

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  • Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024

Комментарии • 148

  • @Joslinmeister
    @Joslinmeister 7 лет назад +130

    5:53
    "You with the wrong answer."
    Come on, Ben.
    "Knight.."
    Nevermind.

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 3 года назад

      ...kind of like "Rook" in the video title.

    • @vigilante8374
      @vigilante8374 10 месяцев назад

      @@mikebaker2436 Bad patzer, bad.

  • @ianremsen
    @ianremsen 7 лет назад +77

    Dear Ben,
    Before your lectures, I hung all of my pieces, every move. Now, I only hang my queen every move. I've found a completely new tier of play at the Class G level. I could have never dreamed to have won the You At Home Semi-Closed Auto Invitational without your amazing insights. Unfortunately, I can't hear this video, because I'm too stupid to use my computer, please consider either sending me a new computer, or a copy of this lecture on VHS.
    Hugs and kisses,
    NM Julian Proleiko

    • @kenstephens7747
      @kenstephens7747 2 года назад +1

      When I came to this site I wanted to start at the most basic level and figured the beginner kids level would be as basic as these things go and serve at least somewhat to bridge the big gap that we have in chess instruction. For the most part we go from here's how the pieces move to can you find the brilliant combination that Tal found but his grandmaster opponent missed? Meanwhile much of the audience, the novices trying to get better, are still stuck at how do I not hang my pieces, let alone sidestep simple tactics. Teaching people how to not play like a fool should come before how to play like a grandmaster. This section would have been so much better had they added in analysis of games that these beginner kids play and especially the many blunders that they make. Much of this stuff is intermediate level actually, and being an intermediate player I have really enjoyed some of them but I definitely feel that the actual beginners or novices have been thrown under the bus, where they are still losing by blundering and winning by their opponents blundering, not from finding master level combinations and leveraging master level positional understanding. Recognizing blunders on both sides of the board is what will get them to the intermediate level but we need to at least try to teach this well enough.

    • @kenstephens7747
      @kenstephens7747 2 года назад

      To expand on this a bit, I actually watched all of these videos so far, even the ones which are actually for beginner kids, like who knows where the H3 square is, and as painful as this was at times, I usually found something to take away. In one of the first ones I remember Yasser telling the kids you need to pay as much attention to your opponent's moves as you do your own moves and I thought this is the best thing you could tell them and what they need to improve most. At the lower skill levels, under 1600 for sure, and even beyond that to some degree, it's actually even more important to pay attention to what your opponent is doing and you could even sit back and watch for weaknesses and inaccuracies with your opponent and look to capitalize, and you could consistently beat lower level opponents simply by just doing that. Strong players intuitively do this but lower rated ones tend to focus way too much on the way their moves change the position and not near enough on how their opponent's moves change it. We do need to do both but especially look for weaknesses on the other side of the board, and when we can do both well we are on our way to being a good chess player.

  • @MCMasters4ever
    @MCMasters4ever 7 лет назад +55

    There are still 6 privated videos in the finegold playlist.
    The next 2 weeks are gonna be great.

  • @chessanalyst9648
    @chessanalyst9648 7 лет назад +41

    Been waiting a VERY long time for this!! Thank you!! PLEASE STOP EDITING HIM OUT. NEVER CENSOR BEN.

  • @BobbyMack
    @BobbyMack 7 лет назад +36

    Sergey "Car-jackin." I can't stop laughing.

  • @GaeasBlessing
    @GaeasBlessing 7 лет назад +55

    Yes! Ben Finegold is the man. More GM Finefold videos, please!
    MOAR!

  • @andyisyoda
    @andyisyoda 7 лет назад +37

    Yes!! Yes!!! Oh yeh Christmas came early!! Ben is back! I won't calm down. Hands down my favourite youtuber.

    • @chessanalyst9648
      @chessanalyst9648 7 лет назад +4

      You cant say that. Terrible. He is my favorite RUclips'er.

  • @Aizen343
    @Aizen343 7 лет назад +4

    That's the mark of a great teacher: seeing a padron in pratice and unveilling it with the theory.
    That's how you turn old puzzles into a really enjoyable, pratical tools of wisdom.
    Make chess great again, Finegold!

  • @marcusw3996
    @marcusw3996 7 лет назад +32

    0:55 "Ok, no talking." LOL I wish I could wield the same power when I teach.

    • @wmheric
      @wmheric 7 лет назад

      Marcus W Because they're interested in talking as well as in chess.

    • @marcusw3996
      @marcusw3996 7 лет назад +8

      I think you misunderstood my comment. I know they like to talk. I have a hard time with my students being quiet. Ben just said it without even looking at them. I found it amusing.

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 3 года назад

      @@marcusw3996 If you watch enough Finegold you find that this power is inconsistent at best.

    • @A51838
      @A51838 Год назад

      @@marcusw3996 SHH!!!

  • @mikec3029
    @mikec3029 7 лет назад +72

    Oh boy! Is that him? The overloaded GM?

    • @OscarGarcia-sw2uo
      @OscarGarcia-sw2uo 7 лет назад +12

      ahahhahaha I almost die remembering that moment, in case you didnt listen i
      he said overworked....

    • @RockinOtaku
      @RockinOtaku 7 лет назад +7

      Michał Ciasnocha no its the overworked GM

    • @mikec3029
      @mikec3029 7 лет назад +16

      The rotating one :P

    • @LizKate1
      @LizKate1 7 лет назад +1

      RockinOtaku

  • @lol101lol101lol10199
    @lol101lol101lol10199 7 лет назад +1

    Stalemate=win actually makes a lot of sense if you think of checkmate as a proxy for capturing the king. Checkmate and stalemate are both situations where - if a move could be made - the capture of the king would follow.

  • @turtle207
    @turtle207 7 лет назад +12

    The only thing that could broke Anish Giri drawing streak (stalemate = win)

  • @villarentalibiza94
    @villarentalibiza94 7 лет назад +2

    Instructive and insightful. As long as Ben is lecturing there is still hope.

  • @simargl2454
    @simargl2454 7 лет назад +25

    I was told there will be rooks

    • @giannispolychronopoulos2680
      @giannispolychronopoulos2680 7 лет назад +5

      Lee Chang no, you misunderstood the title. These are not "rook, pawn" endgames, they are "rook pawn" endgames, or in other words "a/h pawn" endgames

  • @flesjemelk
    @flesjemelk 7 лет назад +1

    Teaching kids about wrong rook pawn positions, I'm sure this advice will benefit them greatly if they hang a piece every 5 moves. That being said, great lecture mr. Finegold!

  • @orionp.9476
    @orionp.9476 6 лет назад +1

    16:22 "Sergey Karjakin.. he came from Detroit when he where he was doing some car-jacking." my god this guy.... lolololololol I love Ben.

  • @briddhiman1729
    @briddhiman1729 7 лет назад +2

    I would love to go to St. Louis one day GM Finegold and give you a big hug for these incredible lectures. One day when I have some money.

  • @AkshaySinghJamwal
    @AkshaySinghJamwal 7 лет назад +13

    Ben's back, yay!

  • @kmktruthserum9328
    @kmktruthserum9328 7 лет назад +2

    i am so freaking thankful for this channel... i would like to come visit the club someday

  • @KvnDWr
    @KvnDWr 7 лет назад +5

    "And also...don't call Taiwan, they'll call you" LMAO

  • @DreamyBongos
    @DreamyBongos 7 лет назад +6

    Sergei joke was the best joke Ben have ever said.

  • @m3alemkbir478
    @m3alemkbir478 7 лет назад +2

    I was really tired from repeating your previous videos
    Welcome back

  • @Scy
    @Scy 7 лет назад +18

    OMG HES BACK IM SO EXCITED LET ME GO CHANGE PANTS

  • @constipatedlecher
    @constipatedlecher Год назад

    He's so great with kids. Warms my heart.

  • @Majora1988
    @Majora1988 7 лет назад +2

    I was like, "Yay! Ben is back!" And then he told me to calm down. :/

  • @Undisputed_mma
    @Undisputed_mma 7 лет назад +1

    Ben at 25:10 you say the only move that makes any sense is Kxh2, but the moves that technically make the most sense are either Kg5 or kf5, because at least its not immediately a stalemate. Who knows, maybe your opponent wont take the queen.

  • @nicodemus9226
    @nicodemus9226 7 лет назад +1

    This is awesome to know. Just like Akobian explained how to checkmate with knight and bishop in a W-movement - chasing the king to the right corner. Anyway nobody moves nobody gets hurt.

  • @syyhkyrotta
    @syyhkyrotta 7 лет назад +4

    WELCOME BACK!! :D

  • @debasishraychawdhuri
    @debasishraychawdhuri 7 лет назад

    "I had to go to the starbucks and get some medicine ... " - now starbucks is selling medicine? :P

  • @matthewerickson2006
    @matthewerickson2006 7 лет назад +1

    Ben Finegold...making chess great again.

  • @s0uldr4ke
    @s0uldr4ke 7 лет назад +1

    YES!!!! A new Finegold video finally today is a good day for all chess fans from germany :)

  • @headkraber
    @headkraber 7 лет назад +2

    He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, Donald 'ump.

  • @edwardbottle1018
    @edwardbottle1018 7 лет назад

    During the discussion of funny stalemates at the end I was half expecting Ben to talk about that one time Kasparov stalemated Georgiev with Queen and Bishop vs. nothing.

  • @ministerofleisure
    @ministerofleisure 7 лет назад +4

    Forking Finegold is back!

  • @villarentalibiza94
    @villarentalibiza94 7 лет назад

    "When I taught that to Beck he said odelay and I'm close enough" - chess that rocks, I like that.

  • @chessanalyst9648
    @chessanalyst9648 7 лет назад +1

    BEN IS BACK!

  • @kenstephens7747
    @kenstephens7747 2 года назад

    Short does have a good argument on the stalemate issue. Since the goal of the game is to capture your opponent's king, if the king does not have any moves that escape capture, perhaps it should be a win. The traditional rule hinges on the fact that you aren't allowed to move your king into capture, and that's the source of the controversy. This is actually a pretty bizarre rule, where there are always moves but the ones that lose your king aren't allowed, and when trapped we call it a draw and let them off the hook even though in practice they are as doomed to being captured as with a checkmate which should mean no way to escape capture. Relying on a weird rule perhaps should not count any more than letting someone who has barricaded themselves in against the police being able to walk away just because they have locked all the doors and the police can't get in, waiting for the perp to walk out so they can capture him.

  • @gutschrimanderson9818
    @gutschrimanderson9818 7 лет назад

    Short's Stalemate rule does make some sense. If you think about chess as in you lose when you lose your king, if you're in stalemate, you'd have to move your king to a square where it can be taken and therefore it'll die next move.
    There are a few exceptions where the king won't necessarily get taken in stalemate, but for the most part Short's rule is valid.

  • @Sykermeetikko
    @Sykermeetikko 7 лет назад +3

    New Finegold video! :)

  • @kramton10
    @kramton10 7 лет назад +4

    To the great people behind this nice club..
    Can you make a video showing us foreigners, the whole place? something like a tour.!! would be great.!!

  • @xx_faze_rolf_xxl4029
    @xx_faze_rolf_xxl4029 7 лет назад +11

    You look like penguin from batman

  • @AlexSosaBolivia
    @AlexSosaBolivia 7 лет назад

    I think Ben finally found his niche, talking to and teaching the kids.

  • @omars.4159
    @omars.4159 7 лет назад +1

    I'm a simple man, I see Ben Finegold and I click.

  • @dylanperry377
    @dylanperry377 7 лет назад

    "There's a prize for shutting the door." lol. Ben definitely knows how to handle these kids better than Yasser. Yasser is too polite to even throw in a shush, from time to time. Ben will be like, shut the fuck up and listen.

  • @Lunibruniful
    @Lunibruniful 7 лет назад +1

    PAPA BEN IS BACK!

  • @mikebaker2436
    @mikebaker2436 3 года назад

    After four years, no one has noticed and commented about the video title? Very suspicious.

  • @Manwlatsi
    @Manwlatsi 7 лет назад +1

    Ben is back, yay!!!

  • @sejfyr22
    @sejfyr22 7 лет назад

    Do we get more Finegold as our Christmas present? @Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis

  • @bobgeorges
    @bobgeorges 7 лет назад +2

    GM Ben is the man!

  • @aqew
    @aqew 7 лет назад +1

    My fine gold tanks have been filled up now

  • @misternuke896
    @misternuke896 6 лет назад

    if every teacher was like Ben finegold, the world would be a better place

  • @chrisatkeson4638
    @chrisatkeson4638 7 лет назад +17

    30 minute lecture??? I thought you got paid by the hour...

    • @pandabearguy1
      @pandabearguy1 7 лет назад +1

      RUclips videos are edited down alot

    • @thecoolest6022
      @thecoolest6022 6 лет назад +6

      It was actually an hour but all his jabs at Trump had to be edited out lol

    • @linda1lee2
      @linda1lee2 6 лет назад +1

      Terrible!

  • @winnah2314
    @winnah2314 7 лет назад

    This guy is fucking hilarious I love him so much.

  • @smoothie33
    @smoothie33 7 лет назад +3

    is GM Ronald Feingold your dad?
    the inventor of the lasker trap.

  • @Ariking777
    @Ariking777 7 лет назад

    2:01 Especially In Michigan is a Red Hot Chili Peppers song.
    Nice to know he's a fan :)

  • @nuwandalton
    @nuwandalton 7 лет назад

    How many times did he say "Dro-AH"?

  • @MasterX6269
    @MasterX6269 7 лет назад +1

    i suppose to be playing chess but this GM keeps kicking my ass.

  • @KrizH3
    @KrizH3 7 лет назад

    I got mixed feelings about winning a stalemate. However making the rule would change a lot.

  • @AndrewIsbell
    @AndrewIsbell 7 лет назад +1

    "I'm going to go no Twitter and/or Facebook..." This is what has me most excited. I would like to follow GM Finegold on social media again so please respond to this comment if anyone finds his username!

    • @AndrewIsbell
      @AndrewIsbell 7 лет назад +3

      Found it, he runs the twitter page of Chess Club & Scholastic Center of Atlanta: @CCSCSATL

    • @softwareadministrato
      @softwareadministrato 7 лет назад

      and facebook???

    • @younis24de
      @younis24de 7 лет назад

      and OR facebook

  • @shy4440
    @shy4440 6 лет назад

    Bookmark
    10:00
    12:20
    16:40
    23:45

  • @Athenian888
    @Athenian888 7 лет назад +2

    Ben forever and ever!!!!

  • @spyroninja
    @spyroninja 7 лет назад +1

    "Don't call Taiwan, they'll call you"

  • @elhamamakram2702
    @elhamamakram2702 7 лет назад

    I love this man!

  • @AgentSmith911
    @AgentSmith911 7 лет назад

    Thanks master

  • @krakenmangaming
    @krakenmangaming 7 лет назад +1

    Ben Finegold is a bully😂😂😂 He always kills the 1 o' clock class

  • @martinmayrhofer7343
    @martinmayrhofer7343 7 лет назад +1

    how much Elo Ben Finegold has?

  • @kiranfhh9059
    @kiranfhh9059 7 лет назад +2

    when will akobian and yassir come they are the best

  • @spencerchubb
    @spencerchubb 7 лет назад

    My name is Spencer and I got it! 8:12 😂

  • @FloydMr0709
    @FloydMr0709 7 лет назад +1

    Go go Ben Finegold :)

  • @sooooooooDark
    @sooooooooDark 7 лет назад

    it would be more logical if a stalemate would be a lose for the person who cant move anymore
    i mean...he literally cant move and if he did his king would be taken
    draw is less sensical to me

  • @msDanielp369
    @msDanielp369 6 лет назад

    2:54 that's so elaborate omg

  • @MrMcCoyD4
    @MrMcCoyD4 7 лет назад +1

    I'm so excited at home

  • @RrockCj
    @RrockCj 6 лет назад

    03:24 I thought he was gonna say Mike Kummer (referring to the camera man) lol

  • @TheGPel
    @TheGPel 7 лет назад +3

    Ben so thumbs up!

  • @alexfovell7339
    @alexfovell7339 7 лет назад +1

    O my sweet Ben

  • @normandblais5219
    @normandblais5219 7 лет назад

    Chess should have a scoring system where stalemate wins (1 points) less than checkmate ( 2 or 3 points). If a player has to move but has no legal move left, he should lose. In the actual system, a draw is a win for both players (half a point). In my book, if nobody wins, it's a draw and the score is 0.

    • @ronwilliams357
      @ronwilliams357 7 лет назад

      If a player has no legal move left, it means he has succeeded in keeping his King safe. That's why he gets some credit.

    • @thomasanderson404
      @thomasanderson404 7 лет назад

      finding a stalemate is fking genius at times. u gotta reward genius... and if the other player somehow manages to fuck up a free win, then they deserve to get a draw.

  • @iks_justice
    @iks_justice 7 лет назад +1

    Arjun will never become a true chess player.
    Cause his parents will make him a doctor XD

  • @kiranfhh9059
    @kiranfhh9059 7 лет назад

    Ya that's true

  • @Lanijiro
    @Lanijiro 7 лет назад +1

    the Greatest!

  • @michaelbuckingham4830
    @michaelbuckingham4830 6 лет назад

    Haha, hope you learning about the budget, don’t call Taiwan. So random. Thanks for a great ending Benjamin

  • @rajat99999
    @rajat99999 7 лет назад

    Good one

  • @bigstar66
    @bigstar66 7 лет назад +1

    8:02 I got it

  • @StopFear
    @StopFear 7 лет назад +6

    Haha. More Donald jokes please.

  • @blueromeo1974
    @blueromeo1974 7 лет назад +1

    chess is good again...thankfully

  • @jaysonpomfret670
    @jaysonpomfret670 7 лет назад

    I'd be in the one o clock class

  • @blackkorean1
    @blackkorean1 7 лет назад

    Ben Finegold is the only GM for me

  • @pascal30161
    @pascal30161 7 лет назад

    Nobody puts baby in the corner...

  • @TheAleksander22
    @TheAleksander22 7 лет назад +1

    Very funny ending :)

  • @skakofilsanonims4434
    @skakofilsanonims4434 7 лет назад

    It is a matter of HONOUR to KILL your opponent's monarch. If you let him commit suicide (stalemate) you don't deserve to win.

  • @OscarGarcia-sw2uo
    @OscarGarcia-sw2uo 7 лет назад +3

    beeenn yeeey

  • @NamasteBbooktube
    @NamasteBbooktube 7 лет назад +1

    Nigel Short should retire. Poor guy trying to play chess. If he doesn't like stalemate he should maybe play ludo.

  • @manmoth_1990
    @manmoth_1990 7 лет назад +4

    Ben is my favourite human.

  • @petersmythe6484
    @petersmythe6484 7 лет назад

    (4:08) Very clever, and forced.

  • @hfb129
    @hfb129 7 лет назад

    Why won't they let him talk about Donald Duck? Geez

  • @caliorangekb
    @caliorangekb 7 лет назад +1

    The best move was the terribly executed censorship of the name "Donald Trump"... Was that just a blunder? or maybe a calculated move?

  • @NoisqueVoaProduction
    @NoisqueVoaProduction 6 лет назад

    I am a fan of the idea of stalemate=win.
    I'm actually glad there is a famous grandmaster that agrees with this ideia, but, it is true, he talks nonsense sometimes(actually i'm thinking more of the sexism talk)

  • @chipmanly1359
    @chipmanly1359 6 лет назад

    Nyow Nyow Nyow Nyow Nyow

  • @Ryotbh
    @Ryotbh 6 лет назад +1

    Thank God he isn't forcing his political views on kids... that would be wrong, right?

  • @skillywilly187
    @skillywilly187 7 лет назад +1

    just started to get into chess again..i like this guy he brings flavor to the game..im like that i love it im like a joker good chess player....play on chess.com all the time add me...for good games if anyone wants...my facebook sign in williamireland usa....dont add me if your over a 1500 i just started again from like 10 years ago of a yahoo 1600 rating ..(means idk now)
    ben reminds me of chris christy our governor LOL

  • @exquisitecorpse4917
    @exquisitecorpse4917 7 лет назад +36

    Don't edit out his terrible Donald Trump jokes - America needs to laugh!

    • @exquisitecorpse4917
      @exquisitecorpse4917 7 лет назад +10

      I was going to thumb up this comment....but I picked Pat Buchanan instead.

    • @nonamed56
      @nonamed56 7 лет назад

      America needs to kill herself. We hate you, retards!

    • @maxscherzer9521
      @maxscherzer9521 7 лет назад

      I voted Trump but I'm not offended by jokes. Leave them in!