Dear Ben, Before your lectures, I hung all of my pieces, every move. Now, I only hang my queen every move. I've found a completely new tier of play at the Class G level. I could have never dreamed to have won the You At Home Semi-Closed Auto Invitational without your amazing insights. Unfortunately, I can't hear this video, because I'm too stupid to use my computer, please consider either sending me a new computer, or a copy of this lecture on VHS. Hugs and kisses, NM Julian Proleiko
When I came to this site I wanted to start at the most basic level and figured the beginner kids level would be as basic as these things go and serve at least somewhat to bridge the big gap that we have in chess instruction. For the most part we go from here's how the pieces move to can you find the brilliant combination that Tal found but his grandmaster opponent missed? Meanwhile much of the audience, the novices trying to get better, are still stuck at how do I not hang my pieces, let alone sidestep simple tactics. Teaching people how to not play like a fool should come before how to play like a grandmaster. This section would have been so much better had they added in analysis of games that these beginner kids play and especially the many blunders that they make. Much of this stuff is intermediate level actually, and being an intermediate player I have really enjoyed some of them but I definitely feel that the actual beginners or novices have been thrown under the bus, where they are still losing by blundering and winning by their opponents blundering, not from finding master level combinations and leveraging master level positional understanding. Recognizing blunders on both sides of the board is what will get them to the intermediate level but we need to at least try to teach this well enough.
To expand on this a bit, I actually watched all of these videos so far, even the ones which are actually for beginner kids, like who knows where the H3 square is, and as painful as this was at times, I usually found something to take away. In one of the first ones I remember Yasser telling the kids you need to pay as much attention to your opponent's moves as you do your own moves and I thought this is the best thing you could tell them and what they need to improve most. At the lower skill levels, under 1600 for sure, and even beyond that to some degree, it's actually even more important to pay attention to what your opponent is doing and you could even sit back and watch for weaknesses and inaccuracies with your opponent and look to capitalize, and you could consistently beat lower level opponents simply by just doing that. Strong players intuitively do this but lower rated ones tend to focus way too much on the way their moves change the position and not near enough on how their opponent's moves change it. We do need to do both but especially look for weaknesses on the other side of the board, and when we can do both well we are on our way to being a good chess player.
That's the mark of a great teacher: seeing a padron in pratice and unveilling it with the theory. That's how you turn old puzzles into a really enjoyable, pratical tools of wisdom. Make chess great again, Finegold!
I think you misunderstood my comment. I know they like to talk. I have a hard time with my students being quiet. Ben just said it without even looking at them. I found it amusing.
Stalemate=win actually makes a lot of sense if you think of checkmate as a proxy for capturing the king. Checkmate and stalemate are both situations where - if a move could be made - the capture of the king would follow.
Teaching kids about wrong rook pawn positions, I'm sure this advice will benefit them greatly if they hang a piece every 5 moves. That being said, great lecture mr. Finegold!
Ben at 25:10 you say the only move that makes any sense is Kxh2, but the moves that technically make the most sense are either Kg5 or kf5, because at least its not immediately a stalemate. Who knows, maybe your opponent wont take the queen.
This is awesome to know. Just like Akobian explained how to checkmate with knight and bishop in a W-movement - chasing the king to the right corner. Anyway nobody moves nobody gets hurt.
During the discussion of funny stalemates at the end I was half expecting Ben to talk about that one time Kasparov stalemated Georgiev with Queen and Bishop vs. nothing.
Short does have a good argument on the stalemate issue. Since the goal of the game is to capture your opponent's king, if the king does not have any moves that escape capture, perhaps it should be a win. The traditional rule hinges on the fact that you aren't allowed to move your king into capture, and that's the source of the controversy. This is actually a pretty bizarre rule, where there are always moves but the ones that lose your king aren't allowed, and when trapped we call it a draw and let them off the hook even though in practice they are as doomed to being captured as with a checkmate which should mean no way to escape capture. Relying on a weird rule perhaps should not count any more than letting someone who has barricaded themselves in against the police being able to walk away just because they have locked all the doors and the police can't get in, waiting for the perp to walk out so they can capture him.
Short's Stalemate rule does make some sense. If you think about chess as in you lose when you lose your king, if you're in stalemate, you'd have to move your king to a square where it can be taken and therefore it'll die next move. There are a few exceptions where the king won't necessarily get taken in stalemate, but for the most part Short's rule is valid.
"There's a prize for shutting the door." lol. Ben definitely knows how to handle these kids better than Yasser. Yasser is too polite to even throw in a shush, from time to time. Ben will be like, shut the fuck up and listen.
"I'm going to go no Twitter and/or Facebook..." This is what has me most excited. I would like to follow GM Finegold on social media again so please respond to this comment if anyone finds his username!
it would be more logical if a stalemate would be a lose for the person who cant move anymore i mean...he literally cant move and if he did his king would be taken draw is less sensical to me
Chess should have a scoring system where stalemate wins (1 points) less than checkmate ( 2 or 3 points). If a player has to move but has no legal move left, he should lose. In the actual system, a draw is a win for both players (half a point). In my book, if nobody wins, it's a draw and the score is 0.
finding a stalemate is fking genius at times. u gotta reward genius... and if the other player somehow manages to fuck up a free win, then they deserve to get a draw.
I am a fan of the idea of stalemate=win. I'm actually glad there is a famous grandmaster that agrees with this ideia, but, it is true, he talks nonsense sometimes(actually i'm thinking more of the sexism talk)
just started to get into chess again..i like this guy he brings flavor to the game..im like that i love it im like a joker good chess player....play on chess.com all the time add me...for good games if anyone wants...my facebook sign in williamireland usa....dont add me if your over a 1500 i just started again from like 10 years ago of a yahoo 1600 rating ..(means idk now) ben reminds me of chris christy our governor LOL
5:53
"You with the wrong answer."
Come on, Ben.
"Knight.."
Nevermind.
...kind of like "Rook" in the video title.
@@mikebaker2436 Bad patzer, bad.
Dear Ben,
Before your lectures, I hung all of my pieces, every move. Now, I only hang my queen every move. I've found a completely new tier of play at the Class G level. I could have never dreamed to have won the You At Home Semi-Closed Auto Invitational without your amazing insights. Unfortunately, I can't hear this video, because I'm too stupid to use my computer, please consider either sending me a new computer, or a copy of this lecture on VHS.
Hugs and kisses,
NM Julian Proleiko
When I came to this site I wanted to start at the most basic level and figured the beginner kids level would be as basic as these things go and serve at least somewhat to bridge the big gap that we have in chess instruction. For the most part we go from here's how the pieces move to can you find the brilliant combination that Tal found but his grandmaster opponent missed? Meanwhile much of the audience, the novices trying to get better, are still stuck at how do I not hang my pieces, let alone sidestep simple tactics. Teaching people how to not play like a fool should come before how to play like a grandmaster. This section would have been so much better had they added in analysis of games that these beginner kids play and especially the many blunders that they make. Much of this stuff is intermediate level actually, and being an intermediate player I have really enjoyed some of them but I definitely feel that the actual beginners or novices have been thrown under the bus, where they are still losing by blundering and winning by their opponents blundering, not from finding master level combinations and leveraging master level positional understanding. Recognizing blunders on both sides of the board is what will get them to the intermediate level but we need to at least try to teach this well enough.
To expand on this a bit, I actually watched all of these videos so far, even the ones which are actually for beginner kids, like who knows where the H3 square is, and as painful as this was at times, I usually found something to take away. In one of the first ones I remember Yasser telling the kids you need to pay as much attention to your opponent's moves as you do your own moves and I thought this is the best thing you could tell them and what they need to improve most. At the lower skill levels, under 1600 for sure, and even beyond that to some degree, it's actually even more important to pay attention to what your opponent is doing and you could even sit back and watch for weaknesses and inaccuracies with your opponent and look to capitalize, and you could consistently beat lower level opponents simply by just doing that. Strong players intuitively do this but lower rated ones tend to focus way too much on the way their moves change the position and not near enough on how their opponent's moves change it. We do need to do both but especially look for weaknesses on the other side of the board, and when we can do both well we are on our way to being a good chess player.
There are still 6 privated videos in the finegold playlist.
The next 2 weeks are gonna be great.
Been waiting a VERY long time for this!! Thank you!! PLEASE STOP EDITING HIM OUT. NEVER CENSOR BEN.
Sergey "Car-jackin." I can't stop laughing.
Yes! Ben Finegold is the man. More GM Finefold videos, please!
MOAR!
Yes!! Yes!!! Oh yeh Christmas came early!! Ben is back! I won't calm down. Hands down my favourite youtuber.
You cant say that. Terrible. He is my favorite RUclips'er.
That's the mark of a great teacher: seeing a padron in pratice and unveilling it with the theory.
That's how you turn old puzzles into a really enjoyable, pratical tools of wisdom.
Make chess great again, Finegold!
0:55 "Ok, no talking." LOL I wish I could wield the same power when I teach.
Marcus W Because they're interested in talking as well as in chess.
I think you misunderstood my comment. I know they like to talk. I have a hard time with my students being quiet. Ben just said it without even looking at them. I found it amusing.
@@marcusw3996 If you watch enough Finegold you find that this power is inconsistent at best.
@@marcusw3996 SHH!!!
Oh boy! Is that him? The overloaded GM?
ahahhahaha I almost die remembering that moment, in case you didnt listen i
he said overworked....
Michał Ciasnocha no its the overworked GM
The rotating one :P
RockinOtaku
Stalemate=win actually makes a lot of sense if you think of checkmate as a proxy for capturing the king. Checkmate and stalemate are both situations where - if a move could be made - the capture of the king would follow.
The only thing that could broke Anish Giri drawing streak (stalemate = win)
Instructive and insightful. As long as Ben is lecturing there is still hope.
I was told there will be rooks
Lee Chang no, you misunderstood the title. These are not "rook, pawn" endgames, they are "rook pawn" endgames, or in other words "a/h pawn" endgames
Teaching kids about wrong rook pawn positions, I'm sure this advice will benefit them greatly if they hang a piece every 5 moves. That being said, great lecture mr. Finegold!
16:22 "Sergey Karjakin.. he came from Detroit when he where he was doing some car-jacking." my god this guy.... lolololololol I love Ben.
I would love to go to St. Louis one day GM Finegold and give you a big hug for these incredible lectures. One day when I have some money.
Ben's back, yay!
i am so freaking thankful for this channel... i would like to come visit the club someday
"And also...don't call Taiwan, they'll call you" LMAO
Sergei joke was the best joke Ben have ever said.
I was really tired from repeating your previous videos
Welcome back
OMG HES BACK IM SO EXCITED LET ME GO CHANGE PANTS
He's so great with kids. Warms my heart.
I was like, "Yay! Ben is back!" And then he told me to calm down. :/
Majora1988 no talking!
Ben at 25:10 you say the only move that makes any sense is Kxh2, but the moves that technically make the most sense are either Kg5 or kf5, because at least its not immediately a stalemate. Who knows, maybe your opponent wont take the queen.
This is awesome to know. Just like Akobian explained how to checkmate with knight and bishop in a W-movement - chasing the king to the right corner. Anyway nobody moves nobody gets hurt.
WELCOME BACK!! :D
"I had to go to the starbucks and get some medicine ... " - now starbucks is selling medicine? :P
Ben Finegold...making chess great again.
YES!!!! A new Finegold video finally today is a good day for all chess fans from germany :)
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named, Donald 'ump.
During the discussion of funny stalemates at the end I was half expecting Ben to talk about that one time Kasparov stalemated Georgiev with Queen and Bishop vs. nothing.
Forking Finegold is back!
"When I taught that to Beck he said odelay and I'm close enough" - chess that rocks, I like that.
BEN IS BACK!
Short does have a good argument on the stalemate issue. Since the goal of the game is to capture your opponent's king, if the king does not have any moves that escape capture, perhaps it should be a win. The traditional rule hinges on the fact that you aren't allowed to move your king into capture, and that's the source of the controversy. This is actually a pretty bizarre rule, where there are always moves but the ones that lose your king aren't allowed, and when trapped we call it a draw and let them off the hook even though in practice they are as doomed to being captured as with a checkmate which should mean no way to escape capture. Relying on a weird rule perhaps should not count any more than letting someone who has barricaded themselves in against the police being able to walk away just because they have locked all the doors and the police can't get in, waiting for the perp to walk out so they can capture him.
Short's Stalemate rule does make some sense. If you think about chess as in you lose when you lose your king, if you're in stalemate, you'd have to move your king to a square where it can be taken and therefore it'll die next move.
There are a few exceptions where the king won't necessarily get taken in stalemate, but for the most part Short's rule is valid.
New Finegold video! :)
To the great people behind this nice club..
Can you make a video showing us foreigners, the whole place? something like a tour.!! would be great.!!
You look like penguin from batman
Not wrong
I think Ben finally found his niche, talking to and teaching the kids.
I'm a simple man, I see Ben Finegold and I click.
"There's a prize for shutting the door." lol. Ben definitely knows how to handle these kids better than Yasser. Yasser is too polite to even throw in a shush, from time to time. Ben will be like, shut the fuck up and listen.
PAPA BEN IS BACK!
After four years, no one has noticed and commented about the video title? Very suspicious.
Ben is back, yay!!!
Do we get more Finegold as our Christmas present? @Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis
GM Ben is the man!
My fine gold tanks have been filled up now
if every teacher was like Ben finegold, the world would be a better place
30 minute lecture??? I thought you got paid by the hour...
RUclips videos are edited down alot
It was actually an hour but all his jabs at Trump had to be edited out lol
Terrible!
This guy is fucking hilarious I love him so much.
is GM Ronald Feingold your dad?
the inventor of the lasker trap.
2:01 Especially In Michigan is a Red Hot Chili Peppers song.
Nice to know he's a fan :)
How many times did he say "Dro-AH"?
i suppose to be playing chess but this GM keeps kicking my ass.
Is it TheFinegold27?!
I got mixed feelings about winning a stalemate. However making the rule would change a lot.
"I'm going to go no Twitter and/or Facebook..." This is what has me most excited. I would like to follow GM Finegold on social media again so please respond to this comment if anyone finds his username!
Found it, he runs the twitter page of Chess Club & Scholastic Center of Atlanta: @CCSCSATL
and facebook???
and OR facebook
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Ben forever and ever!!!!
"Don't call Taiwan, they'll call you"
I love this man!
Thanks master
Ben Finegold is a bully😂😂😂 He always kills the 1 o' clock class
how much Elo Ben Finegold has?
when will akobian and yassir come they are the best
My name is Spencer and I got it! 8:12 😂
Go go Ben Finegold :)
it would be more logical if a stalemate would be a lose for the person who cant move anymore
i mean...he literally cant move and if he did his king would be taken
draw is less sensical to me
2:54 that's so elaborate omg
I'm so excited at home
03:24 I thought he was gonna say Mike Kummer (referring to the camera man) lol
Ben so thumbs up!
O my sweet Ben
Chess should have a scoring system where stalemate wins (1 points) less than checkmate ( 2 or 3 points). If a player has to move but has no legal move left, he should lose. In the actual system, a draw is a win for both players (half a point). In my book, if nobody wins, it's a draw and the score is 0.
If a player has no legal move left, it means he has succeeded in keeping his King safe. That's why he gets some credit.
finding a stalemate is fking genius at times. u gotta reward genius... and if the other player somehow manages to fuck up a free win, then they deserve to get a draw.
Arjun will never become a true chess player.
Cause his parents will make him a doctor XD
Ya that's true
the Greatest!
Haha, hope you learning about the budget, don’t call Taiwan. So random. Thanks for a great ending Benjamin
Good one
8:02 I got it
Haha. More Donald jokes please.
chess is good again...thankfully
I'd be in the one o clock class
Ben Finegold is the only GM for me
Nobody puts baby in the corner...
Very funny ending :)
It is a matter of HONOUR to KILL your opponent's monarch. If you let him commit suicide (stalemate) you don't deserve to win.
beeenn yeeey
Nigel Short should retire. Poor guy trying to play chess. If he doesn't like stalemate he should maybe play ludo.
Ben is my favourite human.
(4:08) Very clever, and forced.
Why won't they let him talk about Donald Duck? Geez
The best move was the terribly executed censorship of the name "Donald Trump"... Was that just a blunder? or maybe a calculated move?
I am a fan of the idea of stalemate=win.
I'm actually glad there is a famous grandmaster that agrees with this ideia, but, it is true, he talks nonsense sometimes(actually i'm thinking more of the sexism talk)
Nyow Nyow Nyow Nyow Nyow
Thank God he isn't forcing his political views on kids... that would be wrong, right?
just started to get into chess again..i like this guy he brings flavor to the game..im like that i love it im like a joker good chess player....play on chess.com all the time add me...for good games if anyone wants...my facebook sign in williamireland usa....dont add me if your over a 1500 i just started again from like 10 years ago of a yahoo 1600 rating ..(means idk now)
ben reminds me of chris christy our governor LOL
Don't edit out his terrible Donald Trump jokes - America needs to laugh!
I was going to thumb up this comment....but I picked Pat Buchanan instead.
America needs to kill herself. We hate you, retards!
I voted Trump but I'm not offended by jokes. Leave them in!