Gaijin makes it so that cold air is more dense so it effects the aerodynamic efficiency of shells and planes, but apparently it's too hard to make heat seeking missiles actually based on heat seeking.
In this game "infrared brightness" tracked by the missile seeker is said to be calculated as a temperature directly proportional to throttle, not the temperature displayed, meaning that a 100% throttle looks like a very hot engine to the seeker.
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Modern Heat seekers can see the heat generated from the friction of the air against the leading edges, it's still warmer than the surrounding air. I don't know if WT simulates that though. Now the fact it didn't bite off on the flare is bs given the lower temps.
Technically, an All-aspect missile should be able to see you as it can destinguish the heat generated from moving through the air at high speed from the background heat. Still, i would also think that a flare would've decoy'd it when you were going slow with no engine.
Y’all forget that planes get hot as they move through the air. His engines may have been cold but the exhausts were prolly hot and same with the skin of the airframe. Friction yall
Well not to mention the sky is seemingly cold at night, so even with a low temperature for an engine, it is quite bright enough for the missile to track. Irccm as well.
0:49 you really should have put in a gif of the A-wing ramming the Executor from Return of the Jedi, had the same energy 😂 Edit: that or Khan saying "from hells heart I stab at thee" from the Wrath of Khan.
i assume war thunder simply doesn't simulate heat correctly, if at all tbh. Or the numbers we see are not accurate... I'm no aerodynamics expert, but maybe the air friction around the wings warms your plane enough for the AAM to lock
I think I may have an idea as to what happened in that last clip The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
Не знаю, заметит ли Малзи этот коммент, но на Су-25, как и на любом другом реактиве двигатели можно врубить ток на земле. Если их вырубить в воздухе, то их уже не запустить. Проверено лично. Можно их запустить в момент касания об землю и дальше полететь по своим делам. (знаю что меня не заметят, но вдруг кому-то пригодится.)
When you release an trap, you need to change the direction of flight - because the rockets are taught to distinguish traps, and if they are released, the rocket calculates the trajectory and flies simply from memory, to the place where you should end up. But their navigation is messed up. At least that's how it worked in ARMA 3
03:09 TY-90 has irccm This makes the missile very resistant to flares, so it doesn't make sense to shoot a flare after it's fired, so you have to use it before it's fired
3:10, All aspect missiles can detect even little temperatures. Your engines were at 40 C. Thats enaught to track xD, but dont know, why Flares didnt work.
Love how helicopters just know when they are being shot with a infra red missile and start shooting the countermeasures. Must be telepathic stuff or something.
at the end, flares doesnt work properly in any mode besides Air RB/AB and sim. Something Gaijin didnt told us when they implemented said rework of flares.... also dont bother with chaffs.
IRL there are missiles that can work either in IR mode OR photocontrast mode. Operator selects the mode that is more suitable for the situation. But i doubt contrast mode could work at night with cloudy background behind the plane.
first of all. Heat Seeking Missiles are not always Heat Seeking Aircraft Engines. what is sought is the heat from the "Heat of Body Plane" while flying. so shutting down the engine is also not effective to avoid heat-seeking missiles, moreover there are Infrared Missiles. But i dunno Gaijin add this Feature to Air-Battle & Heat Seeker missile..
Honestly, they really should just remove helis from grb or add a tank only gamemode, I have no idea how they expect tanks to fight back when helis get IRCM and countermeasures to stop spaa. You can shoot a radar guided round from the adats or xm975 at a ka52 and his ircm will send it off course, lav-ad ir missiles won't lock it and if you lazer rangefind it with a tank they have lws so they can dodge, they remove so much fun from the ground aspect of top-tier is insane. There is way more about them that makes them cancer but this comment is too long
If it was a non all aspect missile it wouldnt have tracked you. The airframe still has the ambient heat that the all apsect seeker is picking up even tho you have your engines off. But even then i dont think the airframe would be warm enough to give a good lock past 800m or so
What is indicated as engine temperature in WT is the exhaust temperature, not the temperature of the engine itself. Above all, the Z-19E is equipped with ECCM, so flares and other deceptive devices are meaningless.
brother eccm is electric. this is an infrared missile. the most accurate way to explain it would be the seeker head being too small to see the flares. still it was gayjin bs
Gaijin makes it so that cold air is more dense so it effects the aerodynamic efficiency of shells and planes, but apparently it's too hard to make heat seeking missiles actually based on heat seeking.
*affects
@@s3dchrok grammar nazi
its an su25 anyway so it deserves it
a 50° engine still is bright AF compared to the sky in thermal optics, air doesn't dissipate heat that fast
@@ffffff52 but he is flaring?
In this game "infrared brightness" tracked by the missile seeker is said to be calculated as a temperature directly proportional to throttle, not the temperature displayed, meaning that a 100% throttle looks like a very hot engine to the seeker.
Yeah its bullshit
still the missile got me with 0% throttle and i was flaring + turning x)
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DOGSHIT GAME LMAOOOO
wow what a oversight gaijin
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And also his WR
The only WT gaming fix I need! Great stuff as ever Malzi.
1:33 Smartest Pe8 player in the world
- them: no heat on jet, easy lock on
- me: jet going full afterburn, no lock on
There was something about waking up on my birthday, which I normally don’t give a damn about, and seeing a notification for a Malzi BRUH video that made me so happy. Thanks Malzi!
Ah, yes, those famous spitfires, that don't even need a wing to fly perfectly stable. Gaijin logic at its finest.
I have math finals tomorrow and this video is indeed stress relief
Goodluck!
math lmao.
@Count Spatula imagine being garbage at maths so you call them a 'nerd'. Nerd isn't even an insult anymore 💀
Did you make it?
Still waiting for results
A BRUUUUH a day keeps the snail at bay
Tried it
It doesn't
Help me please he has arrived at my front door with a kv2
@@muhammadusmanrafique3517 lmao you're fucked. Shoulda watched more BRUH vids.
The snail is the reason we have bruh.
Meanwhile an alouette with no engine covers hovering 1.5 km in front of my strela and can't be locked.
And i don't even want to talk about drones.
Modern Heat seekers can see the heat generated from the friction of the air against the leading edges, it's still warmer than the surrounding air. I don't know if WT simulates that though. Now the fact it didn't bite off on the flare is bs given the lower temps.
My mind is simple. I see BRUH video, I click on it and watch pure essence of War Thunder
2:11 the hands of enemy driver tho
War Thunder flares as just as useful as Gaijin support
Another brilliant Malzi production!
that last one made my toes curl.
"how it works?" Through the ass, like everything in this game.
It's the airplane against the sky.
Hot engines help but are not necessary.
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where you are.
Early morning video? God damn, we've been blessed
Mmmm, yes. All of my pain compressed into a single video.
i really enjoy watching youre videos for 40 seconds
Love the airplane alarms like pull up, sinkrate, etc
Ngl, they should fiz these missiles seing your engines having only 45 degrees of heat.
this is a certifies bruh thunder moment
The most awarded series
3:09 TY90 are well known for the impossibility to lose them, except by speed. THeir ECCM is the best one. Except if you're far and fast, you're dead.
Watching this is a good way to start the day xD
thx malzi
3:03 - when jet plane's engine is colder, than your PC's GPU
Technically, an All-aspect missile should be able to see you as it can destinguish the heat generated from moving through the air at high speed from the background heat.
Still, i would also think that a flare would've decoy'd it when you were going slow with no engine.
2:42 What is love🔥🔥🔥
Y’all forget that planes get hot as they move through the air. His engines may have been cold but the exhausts were prolly hot and same with the skin of the airframe. Friction yall
Well not to mention the sky is seemingly cold at night, so even with a low temperature for an engine, it is quite bright enough for the missile to track. Irccm as well.
@@syrez156 yep. basically even human bodyheat is enough for an IR missile to lock onto. so that IR missile tracking him is NOT abnormal lel
this is a certified ty90 moment (what the actual fuck)
0:49 you really should have put in a gif of the A-wing ramming the Executor from Return of the Jedi, had the same energy 😂
Edit: that or Khan saying "from hells heart I stab at thee" from the Wrath of Khan.
Here's khan 😅
ruclips.net/video/VYPsoxpt0BU/видео.html
Wow you bombed a XANA servant down to pieces. 😂
The missile knows where it is...
Malzi's surfers =BIGFUN😂😂
I love malzi's videos. It's really great because there are no interesting videos of war thunder in Japan.
i assume war thunder simply doesn't simulate heat correctly, if at all tbh. Or the numbers we see are not accurate... I'm no aerodynamics expert, but maybe the air friction around the wings warms your plane enough for the AAM to lock
Quoth @TheMightyJingles it is guided by the cursed and undead hand of Stalin himself.
@@CharlieOscarDeuce i mean i can lock prop planes with IR missiles , from the rear, so anything goes in this game i guess ;D
0:29 -It's pretty interesting that you didn't get shot down by pantsir
early morning BRUUUHpost
I think I may have an idea as to what happened in that last clip
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
边听糟心的小曲边吃电子榨菜（doge
2:20 the drivers hands are moving?!?!?
Не знаю, заметит ли Малзи этот коммент, но на Су-25, как и на любом другом реактиве двигатели можно врубить ток на земле. Если их вырубить в воздухе, то их уже не запустить. Проверено лично.
Можно их запустить в момент касания об землю и дальше полететь по своим делам.
(знаю что меня не заметят, но вдруг кому-то пригодится.)
у шведов ранних можно успеть запустить в воздухе
@@fussia2568 скорее как исключение, некоторые шведы даже могут задом летать
@@rekerpervon ого, любопытно)
Ну, не знаю, реактивный двигатель на СУ-25 в воздухе запускается очень долго, но всё таки запускается.
И это тоже проверено лично
Perfect video at perfect time. 🤌🫡
the world of war thunder contains many wonders
a bruh a day keeps the braincells away
When you release an trap, you need to change the direction of flight - because the rockets are taught to distinguish traps, and if they are released, the rocket calculates the trajectory and flies simply from memory, to the place where you should end up. But their navigation is messed up.
At least that's how it worked in ARMA 3
03:09 TY-90 has irccm This makes the missile very resistant to flares, so it doesn't make sense to shoot a flare after it's fired, so you have to use it before it's fired
3:01 - this is Imbalance all aspect aam TY 90. They are literally undodgeable even with flares
3:10, All aspect missiles can detect even little temperatures. Your engines were at 40 C. Thats enaught to track xD, but dont know, why Flares didnt work.
ECCM
1:33 Important muffled message
YES BRUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Engine was running cooler than my PC when playing WT wtf
1:34 got me rolling on my bed 💀
1:38 any kind soul has the source of the gif?
(0:44) That's why you need to make sure CAS is utterly pulverized.
"TARGET DESTROYED" is often false when it comes to aircraft.
Same with KA-5* helis
@@neco4huk _Yeah._
ALL aircraft (planes, helis & drones).
watching that guy bomb his own spawn was a weird experience
The engine itself may be cooling off, but the exhaust is still hot as shit
Yo where can i get that gif of the soviet soldier?
Love how helicopters just know when they are being shot with a infra red missile and start shooting the countermeasures. Must be telepathic stuff or something.
Такого кринжа навалил... Про БКО не слышал да?
1:49 You just want to set her down nice and gently
A Smooch
LIKE YOUR KISSING YOUR SISTER
Best music 😅
The missile in that last clip works because it knows where it isn't
basically my days of warthunder in tier 3
planes
The only way to Distract a TY-90 Air to Air Missle is to fire another missle like an R60 towards it
Bro got that goofy ahh music 💀💀💀
you know you are dominating when you kill the chinese player in any game
at the end, flares doesnt work properly in any mode besides Air RB/AB and sim. Something Gaijin didnt told us when they implemented said rework of flares.... also dont bother with chaffs.
IRL there are missiles that can work either in IR mode OR photocontrast mode. Operator selects the mode that is more suitable for the situation.
But i doubt contrast mode could work at night with cloudy background behind the plane.
YEP CHINESE Heli aam TOO op
I miss Helicopter meme
BRUHilliant
How the f did you pull that SU25 up?!
first of all. Heat Seeking Missiles are not always Heat Seeking Aircraft Engines. what is sought is the heat from the "Heat of Body Plane" while flying. so shutting down the engine is also not effective to avoid heat-seeking missiles, moreover there are Infrared Missiles.
But i dunno Gaijin add this Feature to Air-Battle & Heat Seeker missile..
Only thing more bullshit than a SU 25 is a chooper,classic .
3:06 pretty sure that missile was using a laser targeting system
/missleignoreflaresactivated
Is the Skill Issue series coming back?
The amount of BRUH moments will increase with the sale
And that includes me, my best tank is Jumbo and I shall get the XM1
We need to sign a petition to remove the Z-19 for the game
F TY-90's... Can't dodge them nor can you flare them...
What happened to the map in the first clip? I haven’t seen it in easily over a year
Softest landing in war thunder:
1:48
Honestly, they really should just remove helis from grb or add a tank only gamemode, I have no idea how they expect tanks to fight back when helis get IRCM and countermeasures to stop spaa. You can shoot a radar guided round from the adats or xm975 at a ka52 and his ircm will send it off course, lav-ad ir missiles won't lock it and if you lazer rangefind it with a tank they have lws so they can dodge, they remove so much fun from the ground aspect of top-tier is insane. There is way more about them that makes them cancer but this comment is too long
What is this soudndtrack called? It has become a part of my WT input system.
02:36
You should switch sight mode, instead of wasting half your ammunitions
i loved the part where you exploded
im in your videooooooooooooooo
If it was a non all aspect missile it wouldnt have tracked you. The airframe still has the ambient heat that the all apsect seeker is picking up even tho you have your engines off. But even then i dont think the airframe would be warm enough to give a good lock past 800m or so
Damn Malzi I love you 💀❤💀
Tutel :3
1:51 Is it a universal tactic to sit on the belly on an airplane?
1:04 You got a hole on your left wing!
What is indicated as engine temperature in WT is the exhaust temperature, not the temperature of the engine itself. Above all, the Z-19E is equipped with ECCM, so flares and other deceptive devices are meaningless.
brother eccm is electric. this is an infrared missile. the most accurate way to explain it would be the seeker head being too small to see the flares. still it was gayjin bs
@0:50 Remember WT is an airplane game and the tanks are just targets.
0:55 strongest chinese APFSDS
The same damage as stock cumulatives on Soviet top MBTs