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Just a headsup, the RSPCA has launched a new campaign "For Every Kind", see the article, 'Call us woke if you like, but all animals deserve the RSPCA’s protection' by Chris Sherwood, 20 Apr 2024. They said, "The message in our new brand and campaign is that we are for every kind of person and for every kind of animal - cats, dogs, pigs, chickens, hedgehogs, foxes, lizards, and yes, even snails. One topic that caused debate was the positioning on a spectrum of the suffering of creatures."
how pathetic were those people who did not dare to go to the meat isle to face the reality, but then ordered the shop workers to go fetch flesh products for them. very low
Why would they want to, so an activist can tell them they are a monster, and plaster their faces on the Internet. It's amazing how fast vegan activist go from "your a good person that's just misinformed" to "your an animal abusing baby killer" why Should they care when the spokes people degrade them?
I used to not think these type of "supermarket tactics" accomplished anything positive but this was SUPER EFFECTIVE and WELL-DONE!!! A brilliantly conveyed and executed message is so important! Great job to all involved here, David, Joey & team.
You actually believe any of these people decided to go vegan because of this? All this did was make people dislike vegans and give ammuntion to anti vegans. I am vegan btw.
@@TonyMythare you triggered because you know that these people are right? You seem to like to comment on vegan sites very often so it makes one Wonder if you are just trolling these sites.
@Rescue127 I'm a carnivore and I live with 2 vegans. I see first hand every day the diseased minds caused by deprivation of essential nutrients. I have them eating eggs and one had roast chicken today. I'm saving vegans from themselves.
😮 Oh, I don't manifest what you manifest evil animals killing by telling how pigs died. Why don't you manifest people eating more healthy veggies instead.
Paul McCartney said it years ago but I will paraphrase him instead "With full transparency animal agriculture would not exist." Proof in action ^^^^ well done.
Yes, he said (in 2010) "If all slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian" -- I always disagreed with that statement because there are some who would just look away from the glass walls and others who would feel no empathy even seeing it. But it is true that with full transparency, the majority of the public would cause them to close.
It's sad, that this women who attacked mel. Is sadly the ignorant backward people we have to live around..Mel and Steve are fantastic! and a real adults. Big shout out to you Mel for handling this situation with a backward immature women. We have no hope for the new generation until women and man act and be there age!
I don't agree with it, but the reason she went off was because Mel said something to the affect of "what if they put your baby in a gas chamber". Obviously most parents are quite protective of their children, so someone using their child as a pawn in their narrative doesn't go well.
@@TheShockedboy I'd say that was a 'direct hit' then. It must have gotten through to her (Mel's, not the woman's). How on earth would that give the woman the right to physically attack back? Given that pigs have been scientifically demonstrated to have a greater sentience and intelligence than a 3 year old child, at human tests, isn't it a fair comparison? Of course, at pig related tasks, they are far superior to any adult human.
It's called education & far from harassment. The people approach the activists, not the other way around. The activists are only delivering the information. Gas chambers aren't just torturing pigs, but also other animals. Not to mention they're all actually still babies when they're tortured then slaughtered. And on top of that, RSPCA, who are supposed to protect animals,are taking a cut from the profit of every RSPCA assured meat product sold.
David Ramms, you legend! Getting the truth out to all those who don't want to hear it. Well done to you and everyone there, speaking up and putting yourselves out there for the animals. That isn't easy. We should always speak up for the animals when we can, never remain silent while these atrocities are happening. Excellent work 👏 💚
Those consumerism cathedrals of tortured animals for tasty flesh that you support without knowing; most actually do sadly, and they get violent if you try to help them facing the truth - I say this is just starting. Thanks so much to all of you involved. This is how you do it! 💚
Respect for all of you! You disrupted the system and served to inform people. Ridiculous that some people didn’t dare to come and get the products themselves… Thanks, David, Annie and all the activists there. You’re doing a great job
Those shoppers who were getting staff to fetch animal remains for them are weak and cowardly and were afraid of being judged and criticised. They know deep down that its immoral and wrong to ignore the truth of the atrocities of the meat dairy and egg industries, and who do nothing to try and end them.
Thank you for spreading veganism. It was good to see some kind people discover the horrible industry they were funding and hope they would stop it. Take care 🌱🌱🌱
Thank you David and team for spreading the truth of these horrific industries, and holding people accountable. You really are making a positive difference to the world. ❤
People have become like sheeple. It takes bravery and courage to think outside the brain washing box. Too many people stay in their own comfort zone afraid of change. The world only changes for the better when brave honest truth tellers educate others. We are either part of the problem or part of the solution.
Every aisle in every supermarket should have transparency of what purchasing animal flesh & secretions involves . How the animal was brought into existence , abused & killed . If you are buying animal products you are paying for abusers to torture & murder sentient beings for you . If you cant face the reality you are a coward with no compassion . If you care about animals don’t turn away and pretend its not happening . Its only by caring people educating themselves & refusing to support this atrocity that will stop it happening . There is no such thing as humane slaughter . It is all cruelty & immense suffering
Learn from the Bible, it only take two people to believe. So if you keep believe all this then you help manifest this evil animals killing so your awful thought keep this evil animal killing happening.
Thank you David for speaking up! And all the other activists! nice to see people who care. NEVER GIVE UP! People afraid to change.... TO KNOW THE TRUTH BEHIND THEIR ACTIONS! WHAT THEIR EATING AND USE OF ANIMALS CAUSE! GO VEGAN FOR THE ANIMALS AND EARTH.! BE KIND TO ALL THE LIVING BEINGS! CHOOSE COMPASSION!
Anu, all these protesters are vegan. There is nothing compassionate or kind about being vegetarian. The egg and dairy industries are extremely cruel and part of the meat industry.
Not much. Reasonable force to escort people out. But then they are filming & obviously going to twist things at the slightest touch, it is obviously going to lead to police resources being wasted as they won’t leave otherwise & customers have a right to shop in peace as much as they have a right to protest
@@BelindaJon41 I doubt that "customers have a right to shop in peace" legally. English law tends not to work in that way. As a general rule, I thought security guards should try to avoid touching individuals unless it can be proven necessary in the court of law that it was for their own self-defense, for the defense of others or to catch a criminal in the act of committing a crime. But no crime was being committed here.
@@janebarker2844 I noticed that he was doing a "flat arm outstretched" and wondered if that's as much "reasonable force" and they are allowed to apply, i.e. "no hands on"?
Coincidentally at the beginning of your video you hear the Hare Krishna’s chanting in streets of Manchaster. Hare Krishna is the only religion that clearly teaches animals have a soul & requires a strict vegetarian diet on the basis of nonviolence & compassion for all beings. Many are also vegan or accept dairy only from cows which are humanely raised & protected. Happy cows produce an abundance of milk more than the calfs consume.
Hmmm, my comment suggesting we need to take our strategy further was removed within a few minutes. David, is it RUclips doing this or would it be your team?
@@davidramms ok, thanks. My guess is that RUclips probably perceived my comment wrongly. Btw, I very much appreciate your tactics and would like to get involved in working with you guys/participating in your actions. Is there potential for that and if so how should I go about connecting with you?
@@Libertarian606 If it makes you feel any better, one of mine got deleted too & I'm pro vegan. One of my theories is that since Gaza kicked off, their algorithm seems to have beene tuned to delete posts involving words relating to death and suffering. The K-word seems to be trigger if you use it too much. I've given up my account in the past, I can see it happening again in the future, which should concern content producers if loads of people ar doing it because, of course, their income is based on the amount of views. Because vegan and animal rights issues are often violent, contentious and graphic, it seems to unfairly treat serious discussion of them.
We live in a technological age, anyone interested in what ur shoving in ppl’s faces can access and find this information themselves…. F*ck the political correctness if I were the police dealing with this I’d be slapping that megaphone clean out of his hand. “We gotta be loud cos no one listens to us” those that care will listen, those that don’t care shouldn’t have to listen if they don’t wish too… that’s exactly why a a big chunk of the community despise this kind of action.
Stunts like this are the reason people dislike Vegans. People know & are exercising their choice & the Vegan movement have not introduced compelling reasons as to why it should be banned. If you're simply thinking that consumer demand is the best tactic then stop doing this as you need to get 99% of people on your side.
It's been scientifically proven that pigs have greater intelligence and sentience than 3 year old human children. Therefore, scientifically, what we do to pigs is at least as bad as if we were doing it to 100,000s of children each year. Why is that not compelling enough reason to stop? Of course, scientifically again, there are many aspects in which pigs are even more superior that even adult humans, e.g. sense of smell, hearing, etc, so that should only make what you are paying for even worse.
@sledge6693 oh nooo, a vegan told me how cruel I'm being to animals when I buy products that are made from them. I better go keep buying products that are made from them so I can continue to prove how right they are and how ignorant I am. Get over yourself, mate.
Democracy, Education, Transparency, Speciesism. Your folk peacefully do good work. Many today have no access or understand information technology, so if possible from sponsors circulate nationwide a billion flyers telling the truth,prescribing the Pignorant film and if logistics allow also the team conduct voluntary presentations, 'a evening with ' etc, in all UK cities and major towns tour,presumably standing room only,so more and more legally peacefully by education become active to illumin to consumers currently deliberately unaware public the truth of human animal mammal race to hog non human animal mammal races inquisitorial injustice in extremis in a space age time. All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good folk to do nothing. ' Im in favour of non human animal rights as well as human animal rights.That is the way of a whole human ' President Abraham Lincoln 1809-1865 Cited. Dictionary of Thought, Ed.J.Wynne Tyson, 2nd Edition,Centaur Press,Fontwell, London, New York,1986,p.179 Essential reading still not refuted in philosophy is Tom Reagan,The Case for Species Rights, California State University Press, Berkeley, 1984,2000,2010.
Thank You David you are my Hero and all the activists. The governments are the main responsible for this they just want more money for the Taxes. We need to vote for candidates that support animal rights.
Seriously? You still believe in politics, lying politicians and government? It's all about GRASSROOTS and Supply and Demand. And here the voting is 100% rigged by machines anyway, all a setup.
I wish that vegans would form alliance with corporations that are plant based. 'Because the meat and dairy is so powerful, and they have all the psychological strategies that has been proven to work and those that have not.When we vegans go out fighting for animals rights, we really need to know if what we are doing has been prevent to work, or if is is actually making people more distant from the issue of animal cruelty. Corporations do social experiments, and that is why they are able to control the populous by using such data to crate the right amount of psychological strategies to control the populous. We need to make people realize and wake up from the information which is constantly bombarding the minds of the populous to make them feel they can not live without meat, as well as making them feel it is the right choice.
You know Joey is funded by a venture capitalist fund that is specifically focused on a plant based sustainable food system, right? Look up Blue Horizon. I don't know how much he gets/has gotten from them, and how much he gets from elsewhere, but it would be good if he would be more transparent about it. The fund has a trust that pays for what is basically loss leading, PR campaigns for their investment products.
@@jonahwhale9047 If so, funding is not exactly what I am addressing. It is the data corporations for environmental restoration should have. They should have the data the meat and dairy has. Because it is that vital information that makes them control the population. We have to know how to better make people understand.
@@samuelmiensinompe4902 I understand. I don't know if that data has been made public. Faunalytics claims to do research on such issues from an animal POV but they tend towards reducetarian approach. For me, the vegan movement doesn't seem to work collectively or collaborative but rather just uses this "splatter gun" effect blindly hoping that something will stick. I'm afraid that both orgs and now individuals aim for, and judge their successes on, income reap from campaigns rather than their effectiveness, i.e. that it's done for effect, rather than results.
@@KARMAIsTheUltimateBadassBitch It does matter because, as Samuel is point out, some of the effect such campaigns has is negative & pushes people further away, or makes them more defensive. No one in the movement is measuring what is effective and what is counter effective, and by what balance.
Vegans are so emotional when it comes to suffering. I don’t get it. Men die, women die, animals die, plants die, bacteria die. It’s part of existence. I could die tomorrow and I wouldn’t blame anything or anyone.
I will eat more meat today. If making me eat more meat is your goal, then you win. If not, I am sorry, I truly believe you want to make me angry and eat more meat.
“Look what you made me do!!” Said every abusive, exploitative oppressor in history. No, we want you to have some self control and respect for the wellbeing and bodily autonomy of others. It really is not that complicated.
@@Khan_2025 No, not an “attack” just passing on some facts. This might be complicating things, but, how do you personally attempt to morally “justify” supporting or your direct involvement in the breeding, exploitation, mutilation, abuse and killing that is required to provide you with animal products that you do not need?
So you understand and recognise violence, exploitation , abuse, use and murder involved in your choices being done to other sentient individuals on your behalf, yet you can continue to support and encourage it. What does that say about you as a person?
Pressure campaigns demanding transparency from scummy businesses that trick consumers into funding animal torture isn’t everyone’s cup of tea and that’s fine, feel free to find an activism strategy that better suits your individual skill set
I'm sorry, the reason that woman confronted mel at the end was because she compared killing pigs to killing her baby. Can you not see how that might antagonise someone?
maybe giving a finger would be understandable but actually laying hands on someone for merely making a hypothetical comparison proves how unhinged that woman who attacked Mel is
@@anujraghuwanshi3802 No, the dairy industry tortures cows. It's an endless cycle of forced inpregnation, mutilation, child abduction, child slaughter, and theft. There is nothing in cows milk that you can't easily get from plants. There are also delicious alternatives to cows milk, like soy, oat, or almond milk. Soy milk or soy products won't negatively affect your hormones either. The phytoestrogens naturally found in plant milk, have an estrogen-blocking effect. They are also antioxidant. They benefit both men and women.
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Just a headsup, the RSPCA has launched a new campaign "For Every Kind", see the article, 'Call us woke if you like, but all animals deserve the RSPCA’s protection' by Chris Sherwood, 20 Apr 2024. They said, "The message in our new brand and campaign is that we are for every kind of person and for every kind of animal - cats, dogs, pigs, chickens, hedgehogs, foxes, lizards, and yes, even snails. One topic that caused debate was the positioning on a spectrum of the suffering of creatures."
If people like me want to buy meat and dairy we will definitely be buying meat and dairy because no one is the boss of what people buy
@@jonahwhale9047 let's hope they mean it
@@maxmcintyre5068 no ones saying that, people should know where the meat and dairy comes from and they are paying for torture
that lady's reaction 🫶 nice to meet people who care!
how pathetic were those people who did not dare to go to the meat isle to face the reality, but then ordered the shop workers to go fetch flesh products for them. very low
this type of thing always makes my blood boil...
Why would they want to, so an activist can tell them they are a monster, and plaster their faces on the Internet.
It's amazing how fast vegan activist go from "your a good person that's just misinformed" to "your an animal abusing baby killer" why Should they care when the spokes people degrade them?
cowards to be honest
I wouldn't want my wife close to vegan psychopaths when she's buying meat
@@TonyMyth haha funny
your wife literally paying for animal torture
but us vegans are the psychopaths
People get defensive over their abusive actions. Thank you for great work ✊🏻
What an amazing team of activists you are. Thank you David, Joey, Mel and Steve. 💚💚💚
I used to not think these type of "supermarket tactics" accomplished anything positive but this was SUPER EFFECTIVE and WELL-DONE!!! A brilliantly conveyed and executed message is so important! Great job to all involved here, David, Joey & team.
You actually believe any of these people decided to go vegan because of this? All this did was make people dislike vegans and give ammuntion to anti vegans. I am vegan btw.
It definitely convinced me to buy some bacon on my way home tonight. Thanks for the reminder.
@@TonyMythare you triggered because you know that these people are right? You seem to like to comment on vegan sites very often so it makes one Wonder if you are just trolling these sites.
@Rescue127 I'm a carnivore and I live with 2 vegans. I see first hand every day the diseased minds caused by deprivation of essential nutrients. I have them eating eggs and one had roast chicken today. I'm saving vegans from themselves.
I cry every day for the animals that are tortured and killed poor innocent animals.We need animals rights.
Yea humans should give up their rights and give them to nonhuman animals. 😂😂.
*100%*
@Lomochenko
*Oh the Karma for people like you lol*
😮 Oh, I don't manifest what you manifest evil animals killing by telling how pigs died. Why don't you manifest people eating more healthy veggies instead.
Cry more. Vegan tears sustain me.
Paul McCartney said it years ago but I will paraphrase him instead "With full transparency animal agriculture would not exist." Proof in action ^^^^ well done.
Yes, he said (in 2010) "If all slaughterhouses had glass walls, everyone would be vegetarian" -- I always disagreed with that statement because there are some who would just look away from the glass walls and others who would feel no empathy even seeing it. But it is true that with full transparency, the majority of the public would cause them to close.
He was pussy whipped
He's the lamest Beatle
@@TonyMyth
You are
Well done, vegans! ❤
Why did that woman hit Mel? Disgusting behaviour.
She was very triggered
It's sad, that this women who attacked mel. Is sadly the ignorant backward people we have to live around..Mel and Steve are fantastic! and a real adults. Big shout out to you Mel for handling this situation with a backward immature women. We have no hope for the new generation until women and man act and be there age!
I don't agree with it, but the reason she went off was because Mel said something to the affect of "what if they put your baby in a gas chamber". Obviously most parents are quite protective of their children, so someone using their child as a pawn in their narrative doesn't go well.
@@TheShockedboy I'd say that was a 'direct hit' then. It must have gotten through to her (Mel's, not the woman's). How on earth would that give the woman the right to physically attack back? Given that pigs have been scientifically demonstrated to have a greater sentience and intelligence than a 3 year old child, at human tests, isn't it a fair comparison? Of course, at pig related tasks, they are far superior to any adult human.
@@TheShockedboyit's not a "narrative" it's the truth and she's the one eating animal babies
I wish I was there with you. Thank you for standing your ground.
It's called education & far from harassment. The people approach the activists, not the other way around. The activists are only delivering the information.
Gas chambers aren't just torturing pigs, but also other animals. Not to mention they're all actually still babies when they're tortured then slaughtered. And on top of that, RSPCA, who are supposed to protect animals,are taking a cut from the profit of every RSPCA assured meat product sold.
Thank you everyone, great work 👏👏👏👏👏
Why do all these people that say we need meat all look tired and thin??
I want to thank you, Joey and the rest of the team 💚🌱
David Ramms, you legend! Getting the truth out to all those who don't want to hear it. Well done to you and everyone there, speaking up and putting yourselves out there for the animals. That isn't easy. We should always speak up for the animals when we can, never remain silent while these atrocities are happening. Excellent work 👏 💚
Great work David. Mainstream channels will have to respond if enough of these 'disruptions' happen.
We demand transparency!
Those consumerism cathedrals of tortured animals for tasty flesh that you support without knowing; most actually do sadly, and they get violent if you try to help them facing the truth - I say this is just starting. Thanks so much to all of you involved. This is how you do it! 💚
Fight the good fight, David! ❤
Well done all of you! Great job David. 👍💚♥️
Guess ignorance isn't passive, it's violent when confronted with truth.
Awesome disruption!!!
THANK YOU! Love your activism.
This is how you get mass media attention, which hopefully will spread to the U.S. Keep Going.
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Well done David & activists ! 💪🌱🐽💚
Dunno why the cops are so offended too
Because most of them are also carnists lol, they get triggered when shown the truth like most of the masses too
Respect for all of you! You disrupted the system and served to inform people. Ridiculous that some people didn’t dare to come and get the products themselves…
Thanks, David, Annie and all the activists there. You’re doing a great job
Those shoppers who were getting staff to fetch animal remains for them are weak and cowardly and were afraid of being judged and criticised. They know deep down that its immoral and wrong to ignore the truth of the atrocities of the meat dairy and egg industries, and who do nothing to try and end them.
Amazing protest Wish I was there
Amazing bravery!!! 🎉💚✨🌿🙌💪🐖 I are all leading the way to a more loving world!
make some noise.... yeah
You were so firm but remained calm so people could hear your message. Excellent work David. Thank you.
See how pignorants get violent when presented with the truth.
I have seen plenty of violent vegans. Who gives a crap. 💩
Are you for or against animal cruelty?
You guys are awesome 👍
Man, cops in the UK are so different from the US! We could have been grabbed and thrown out instantly here! Great work everyone. Please keep it up.
UK cops are woke cowards
Thank you for spreading veganism. It was good to see some kind people discover the horrible industry they were funding and hope they would stop it. Take care 🌱🌱🌱
All you animal activists are living legends. THANK YOU. Never give up being the voice for the voiceless. 🌱🇦🇺
Well Done David for spreading the message.
Amazing job David!!!!
So much respect for you, thank you for speaking up for the voiceless victims
Well done 👏 Thank you 💚💚💚💚💚
Thank you David for your inspiring work. We are trying our hardest in Aotearoa/NZ.
Thank you David and team for spreading the truth of these horrific industries, and holding people accountable. You really are making a positive difference to the world. ❤
People have become like sheeple. It takes bravery and courage to think outside the brain washing box. Too many people stay in their own comfort zone afraid of change. The world only changes for the better when brave honest truth tellers educate others. We are either part of the problem or part of the solution.
Did someone hit Mel? WTF
Every aisle in every supermarket should have transparency of what purchasing animal flesh & secretions involves . How the animal was brought into existence , abused & killed . If you are buying animal products you are paying for abusers to torture & murder sentient beings for you . If you cant face the reality you are a coward with no compassion . If you care about animals don’t turn away and pretend its not happening . Its only by caring people educating themselves & refusing to support this atrocity that will stop it happening . There is no such thing as humane slaughter . It is all cruelty & immense suffering
Learn from the Bible, it only take two people to believe. So if you keep believe all this then you help manifest this evil animals killing so your awful thought keep this evil animal killing happening.
You did a brilliant job, David! Excellent outreach! You guys are heroes and inspire my closet veganism so much!!
Thank u !
great work !
This is AMAZING thank you dearly for sharing.
Vegan warriors 💚💚💚💚
Keep up the great work ! Amazing how few people get it, and how little compassion most have for the other children of God the animals.
Awesome work! Love from India
You guys are amazing! 💗💗
You guys are legends.
I love it when AR Activists know the Law better than the police.
Thank you David for speaking up! And all the other activists! nice to see people who care. NEVER GIVE UP! People afraid to change.... TO KNOW THE TRUTH BEHIND THEIR ACTIONS! WHAT THEIR EATING AND USE OF ANIMALS CAUSE! GO VEGAN FOR THE ANIMALS AND EARTH.! BE KIND TO ALL THE LIVING BEINGS! CHOOSE COMPASSION!
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where is char lie veitch, he is suspiciously never around whenever joey is❣
He’ll be making an appearance in an upcoming video
@@davidramms thanks david for the heads UP, i can hardly wait! keep on shining a bright light, do not go gentle into that good night ❣
Incredible advocacy l.
🐖🐖🐖♥️♥️♥️🥺🥺🥺
Cry and keep crying.
Interesting. All you did was post some emojis, and it triggered someone. lol
wow you speak well. And well. Awesome!
What happens if we know about how things are killed for us to eat. Are we bad people?
It comes down to your conscience and if you have empathy or not.
@@ASDvegatheist well I guess I'm a bad person.
@@AaronJohnson-fc5zbYou'll pay for it,stay chilled
Amazing
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Mel and Steve
Joey got there version of this event on there channel to
lmao "excuse me". Omg
I have a question -- are you all vegetarian? Even if you not , you are doing a great job.
Vegan. Vegetarians pay for baby male chicks to be ground up alive and baby male calves to become veal
Vegan!
@@davidramms I drink cow milk, is it ok.
@@anujraghuwanshi3802 Spend some time researching how cow milk is produced and you'll quickly see why it isn't ok
Anu, all these protesters are vegan.
There is nothing compassionate or kind about being vegetarian.
The egg and dairy industries are extremely cruel and part of the meat industry.
Just out of interest, how physical can store security get with people in the UK?
Not much. Reasonable force to escort people out. But then they are filming & obviously going to twist things at the slightest touch, it is obviously going to lead to police resources being wasted as they won’t leave otherwise & customers have a right to shop in peace as much as they have a right to protest
@@BelindaJon41 I doubt that "customers have a right to shop in peace" legally. English law tends not to work in that way. As a general rule, I thought security guards should try to avoid touching individuals unless it can be proven necessary in the court of law that it was for their own self-defense, for the defense of others or to catch a criminal in the act of committing a crime. But no crime was being committed here.
Go #TeamCarbstrong
Can't.
@@janebarker2844 I noticed that he was doing a "flat arm outstretched" and wondered if that's as much "reasonable force" and they are allowed to apply, i.e. "no hands on"?
Someone should make a 1 hour video of speaking into a megaphone
Coincidentally at the beginning of your video you hear the Hare Krishna’s chanting in streets of Manchaster. Hare Krishna is the only religion that clearly teaches animals have a soul & requires a strict vegetarian diet on the basis of nonviolence & compassion for all beings. Many are also vegan or accept dairy only from cows which are humanely raised & protected. Happy cows produce an abundance of milk more than the calfs consume.
Hmmm, my comment suggesting we need to take our strategy further was removed within a few minutes. David, is it RUclips doing this or would it be your team?
RUclips
Try again but avoid links, all capitals, or anything RUclips may think is spam
Probably youtube, I believe David doesn't cencor people
@@davidramms ok, thanks. My guess is that RUclips probably perceived my comment wrongly.
Btw, I very much appreciate your tactics and would like to get involved in working with you guys/participating in your actions. Is there potential for that and if so how should I go about connecting with you?
@@Libertarian606 If it makes you feel any better, one of mine got deleted too & I'm pro vegan. One of my theories is that since Gaza kicked off, their algorithm seems to have beene tuned to delete posts involving words relating to death and suffering. The K-word seems to be trigger if you use it too much. I've given up my account in the past, I can see it happening again in the future, which should concern content producers if loads of people ar doing it because, of course, their income is based on the amount of views. Because vegan and animal rights issues are often violent, contentious and graphic, it seems to unfairly treat serious discussion of them.
RSPCA say it's the best way! Gruesome. J
We live in a technological age, anyone interested in what ur shoving in ppl’s faces can access and find this information themselves…. F*ck the political correctness if I were the police dealing with this I’d be slapping that megaphone clean out of his hand. “We gotta be loud cos no one listens to us” those that care will listen, those that don’t care shouldn’t have to listen if they don’t wish too… that’s exactly why a a big chunk of the community despise this kind of action.
Stunts like this are the reason people dislike Vegans. People know & are exercising their choice & the Vegan movement have not introduced compelling reasons as to why it should be banned. If you're simply thinking that consumer demand is the best tactic then stop doing this as you need to get 99% of people on your side.
It's been scientifically proven that pigs have greater intelligence and sentience than 3 year old human children. Therefore, scientifically, what we do to pigs is at least as bad as if we were doing it to 100,000s of children each year. Why is that not compelling enough reason to stop? Of course, scientifically again, there are many aspects in which pigs are even more superior that even adult humans, e.g. sense of smell, hearing, etc, so that should only make what you are paying for even worse.
*Lies*
People meaning you. You can only speak for yourself.
@sledge6693 oh nooo, a vegan told me how cruel I'm being to animals when I buy products that are made from them. I better go keep buying products that are made from them so I can continue to prove how right they are and how ignorant I am.
Get over yourself, mate.
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Online shopping is the real answer to these vegans! They can't invade online markets! Maybe vegan hackers, OMG 🤣😂
It's not the right answer. The right answer is to examine our conditioning and selfish motives, acknowledge it, confront it and stop eating animals.
*Boost* what’s your favorite color
Mines is green and red 🟢🔴
Are you suffering from mental illness?you surely are unhinged
What happened to Mel? 😱
Scrawny ginger talking about nutrition 😂
Pigs are unclean. Clean pork is like clean coal, doesn't exist.
Democracy,
Education,
Transparency,
Speciesism.
Your folk peacefully do good work.
Many today have no access or understand information technology, so if possible from sponsors circulate nationwide a billion flyers telling the truth,prescribing the Pignorant film and if logistics allow also the team conduct voluntary presentations,
'a evening with ' etc, in all UK cities and major towns tour,presumably standing room only,so more and more legally peacefully by education become active to illumin to consumers currently deliberately unaware public the truth of human animal mammal race to hog non human animal mammal races inquisitorial injustice in extremis in a space age time.
All that is needed for evil to triumph is for good folk to do nothing.
' Im in favour of non human animal rights as well as human animal rights.That is the way of a whole human '
President Abraham Lincoln 1809-1865
Cited.
Dictionary of Thought,
Ed.J.Wynne Tyson,
2nd Edition,Centaur Press,Fontwell, London, New York,1986,p.179
Essential reading still not refuted in philosophy is
Tom Reagan,The Case for Species Rights, California State University Press, Berkeley, 1984,2000,2010.
Well Tash..... 😉
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Thank You David you are my Hero and all the activists. The governments are the main responsible for this they just want more money for the Taxes. We need to vote for candidates that support animal rights.
Seriously? You still believe in politics, lying politicians and government? It's all about GRASSROOTS and Supply and Demand. And here the voting is 100% rigged by machines anyway, all a setup.
I wish that vegans would form alliance with corporations that are plant based. 'Because the meat and dairy is so powerful, and they have all the psychological strategies that has been proven to work and those that have not.When we vegans go out fighting for animals rights, we really need to know if what we are doing has been prevent to work, or if is is actually making people more distant from the issue of animal cruelty. Corporations do social experiments, and that is why they are able to control the populous by using such data to crate the right amount of psychological strategies to control the populous.
We need to make people realize and wake up from the information which is constantly bombarding the minds of the populous to make them feel they can not live without meat, as well as making them feel it is the right choice.
You know Joey is funded by a venture capitalist fund that is specifically focused on a plant based sustainable food system, right? Look up Blue Horizon. I don't know how much he gets/has gotten from them, and how much he gets from elsewhere, but it would be good if he would be more transparent about it. The fund has a trust that pays for what is basically loss leading, PR campaigns for their investment products.
@@jonahwhale9047 If so, funding is not exactly what I am addressing. It is the data corporations for environmental restoration should have. They should have the data the meat and dairy has. Because it is that vital information that makes them control the population. We have to know how to better make people understand.
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*GO JOEY it don't matter just get people Vegan whatever it takes*
@@samuelmiensinompe4902 I understand. I don't know if that data has been made public. Faunalytics claims to do research on such issues from an animal POV but they tend towards reducetarian approach.
For me, the vegan movement doesn't seem to work collectively or collaborative but rather just uses this "splatter gun" effect blindly hoping that something will stick.
I'm afraid that both orgs and now individuals aim for, and judge their successes on, income reap from campaigns rather than their effectiveness, i.e. that it's done for effect, rather than results.
@@KARMAIsTheUltimateBadassBitch It does matter because, as Samuel is point out, some of the effect such campaigns has is negative & pushes people further away, or makes them more defensive. No one in the movement is measuring what is effective and what is counter effective, and by what balance.
Well done guys, heroes and heroines everyone of you.
I have watched to many anti vegan propaganda😢
Who wants an egg sandwich?
Vegan egg please.
@@janebarker2844 actual eggs baby
@@J276 I said I'd have vegan egg not a chicken period thanks
@@janebarker2844 Sure thing, an actual chicken egg sandwich. Would you like to try our signature cakes?
@@janebarker2844 they may contain milk
Vegans are so emotional when it comes to suffering. I don’t get it. Men die, women die, animals die, plants die, bacteria die. It’s part of existence. I could die tomorrow and I wouldn’t blame anything or anyone.
Most animals are forced down the kill line when they are at a fraction of their lives.
I will eat more meat today. If making me eat more meat is your goal, then you win. If not, I am sorry, I truly believe you want to make me angry and eat more meat.
“Look what you made me do!!” Said every abusive, exploitative oppressor in history.
No, we want you to have some self control and respect for the wellbeing and bodily autonomy of others. It really is not that complicated.
@@Burner_269 You can attack me, and I can be angry. It really is not that complicated.
You sound like a toddler.
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No, not an “attack” just passing on some facts.
This might be complicating things, but, how do you personally attempt to morally “justify” supporting or your direct involvement in the breeding, exploitation, mutilation, abuse and killing that is required to provide you with animal products that you do not need?
MATE WE ARE STILL GOING TO EAT MEAT REGARDLESS OF YOUR TRANSPERACY!!!!
So you understand and recognise violence, exploitation , abuse, use and murder involved in your choices being done to other sentient individuals on your behalf, yet you can continue to support and encourage it. What does that say about you as a person?
I don't think you're helping the cause by doing this. People hate vegans enough already.
Pressure campaigns demanding transparency from scummy businesses that trick consumers into funding animal torture isn’t everyone’s cup of tea and that’s fine, feel free to find an activism strategy that better suits your individual skill set
I'm sorry, the reason that woman confronted mel at the end was because she compared killing pigs to killing her baby. Can you not see how that might antagonise someone?
maybe giving a finger would be understandable but actually laying hands on someone for merely making a hypothetical comparison proves how unhinged that woman who attacked Mel is
Good work. Shocking how there are people there ignoring you and the police and security trying to manhandle you to kick you out.
Go vegan !
I drink cow milk is it ok.
Nope
Yes its fine@@anujraghuwanshi3802
@@anujraghuwanshi3802 No, the dairy industry tortures cows. It's an endless cycle of forced inpregnation, mutilation, child abduction, child slaughter, and theft. There is nothing in cows milk that you can't easily get from plants. There are also delicious alternatives to cows milk, like soy, oat, or almond milk. Soy milk or soy products won't negatively affect your hormones either. The phytoestrogens naturally found in plant milk, have an estrogen-blocking effect. They are also antioxidant. They benefit both men and women.
Go vegan so you can leave more meat for us meat eaters. 😂
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