Joachim Meyer's Sidesword: Parrying Techniques - Part II
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- In this video we cover the basic techniques of parrying described in Meyer's 1570 Sidesword/Rapier treatise. This is not intended to be a complete disassembly of each technique, rather it is a generalised overview with some consideration of important points in the movement.
This is the second video in our series covering the techniques and principles of parrying in the context of Meyer's system.
In this Video:
Hanging (Verhengen)
Taking out with the Short Edge (Ausnemen mit Halber Schneid)
Striking out with Hanging Blade (Auschlagen mit Hangender Kling)
Barring (Sperren)
See part 1 at:
• Joachim Meyer's Sidesw...
This remains the very best HEMA channel.
Thanks Victor - that means a lot.
Fantastic explanations, looking forward to part three!
Great. Waiting impatently for Part 3
Thank you so much from Kazakhstan
You are most welcome
Brilliant as always.
Indeed very useful for italian sources fencers too !
The "V shape" and the "triangle of death" are really useful images that I'll steal when I teach the bolognese false edge parries :)
Excellent. Common sense, well researched and tested.
I really appreciate these videos, you articulate the point so well I find I don't need to go back and listen again to make it stick. Great work as always!
I appreciate that!
Really excellent stuff as always! Thanks for all the effort to put this together. I'm reading Meyer for the first time and your work is the main inspiration for doing so.
Amazing! Thank you so much. Meyer can be a little like riding a roller coaster first time through - kind of looping back on itself in odd ways in the text, but it’s a fascinating system.
Hurry up with part 3
Great video! Very solid interpretations combined with practical input. Great use of angles and body mechanics! And I really like the sparring/tournament application! Looking forward to the video on the principles!
Whoa... This is SO similar to Dall'Agocchie
Definitely related to contemporary systems from Italy - Meyer says he trained with Italian and Spanish teachers explicitly, so the overlap is real.
Excellent content. Wonderfully explained.
Thank you! Glad you found it useful 😊
That’s very interesting. I would have loved if anybody gived a slightest insight on how to parry without hilt (i am using a hiltless weapon). Although it appears to me that some techniques here can be used without a hilt i still hve a feelng that you can „catch” the weapon with your guard, or you can make it „bounce off” from the tip of your blde and it is two fundamentally different aproaches to the parrying
I think this vídeo is not on the sidesword list. I just found it casually. Great work, btw!!
Thanks for letting me know! I had forgotten to add it! 😊
@@DanielPopeScholarVictoria thanks to you! I’m using my sidesword based on saber, but I think I’m gonna learn Meyer’s work. Do you use the original source or you read any modern translation?
@@sergireig you can definitely make sabre technique work with a sidesword (as long as you keep your hand safe), though going to the sidesword sources can’t hurt!
I currently work from the new translation by Rebecca Garber, which is excellent - I recommend the reading edition for learning - though prior to that used the Forgeng translation for many years.
Thank you very much.@@DanielPopeScholarVictoria!!
The sidesword you are using looks like a Kvetun Armoury Sidesword 5 (probably one of the custom swords it was based on, but with a S1 narrow blade; most likely, I will order a standard S5 soon). With this assumption in mind, did you order it because you were looking for a Bolognese style piece? Or did you intend to have this for Meyer from the start? I'm asking this since I see you are making a lot of Meyer content, and there is a more iconic "rapier" for his tradition that one could potentially choose. Just a bit curious on what makes people select one trainer over another, nothing else.
I also want to echo everyone else here: you are indeed making great videos. The 1st person perspective makes things so much clearer that this should be the default presentation style for HEMA videos (with a side view in a window in the corner). Using the original illustration as opponents is just the cherry on the cake... it elevates the end result, it manages to fool my brain for a split second into thinking that you are actually fighting the illustration, and I love it! 👍
Query. Im still pretty new to this world, as it were. Can these sidesword techniques be used with rapier? Many of these techniques seem to favor sweeping and cutting motions, while the rapier is predominately a thrusting weapon, with a longer, thinner blade, and the hilt of a rapier would seemingly impede many of those motions. Still, many of the fundamental principles seem to be quit similar.
Great Question!
You're quite right - fencing with a sidesword makes a much greater use of cuts than the 'true' rapier. Because of this, retracted hand positions and broader parrying motions which flow into cutting actions are more useful with the sidesword.
However, my approach to Meyer is that many of the parrying actions can be 'compressed' from broad motions to quite small actions, all of which can be performed from an extended hand position. The suppressing cut becomes a tiny beat, the taking out with the hanging blade becomes a tightly controlled movement a little like seconde in modern foil, the slicing off becomes a displacement, and absetzen becomes a more linear thrust in opposition.
While not optimised for rapier, this yields quite good results, especially in a competitive rapier setting.