I mean do people even realise the monikers will come up with When KC maholmes on one pirates leg if he manages to pull off a second AFC championship title " until Burrows and Maholmes vs each other in this barn burner scenario AFC championship match up I hate 2 say I'm rolling with KC shocking the AFC confrence one more I don't think cincy can pull that off 3 post season games " Key factor like Travis Kelsey that guy has been a Bot regardless of who his pitching Kelsey the ball cincy had its hands full there about to get taste out there own play-calling?
I swear and why acho doesn't bring up those silly comparisons like he does lamar " no player who has gotten paid will win if not the 1st 5 years" bc if it was lamar it'd be can you win with lamar when nobody besides pat has won
Shady... Joe Burrow was the most sacced QB last year in both the regular season and the post season. He was sacced over 70 times and he overcame being sacced 9 times against the Titans and still won that game. That tied the NFL record of most saccs in a playoff game. He was also sacced 7 times in the super bowl which again.. tied the NFL record for most saccs in a super bowl and he almost won it all.
@@AscendAR joe burrow isn't worried about getting sacked, if he is looking for a play he will go for it if not and he can't find a way out he will take the sack. A lot of the sacks were on his o line but some of them are because of him trying to make a play.
@@AscendAR his o line when healthy is better than last year and this backup line is still better than last year. They brought in a lot of new guys this off season even for defense the defense has become ELITE top 2 in my eyes behind the eagles. So it took a while for them to figure it out which is why Joe had a lot of sacks earlier on this season but they’re an elite line now
Difference is Lamar has yet to show he is even a threat to win a championship. Allen demonstrated that last year and the year before when he beat Lamar,
Shady making excuses for Josh is laughable... did Josh tried to pass on 3rd and short multiple times for lots of yards instead of trying to get a few yards and 1st downs? Yes he did, he didn't do his job. Stop the excuses.
If it were any other elite QB rather than being childish and seemingly ignoring the person he would've talked it out with them and blamed himself entirely.
Diggs wasn’t getting off the line of scrimmage and Josh had zero time to throw. Nice try though .. the bengals beat down the whole team and ran it down the bills throat. Who cares if a wide receiver barks at a quarterback. Does he see what’s happening behind him?
@@Raven.Bloodrot Exactly. He's emotionally immature. Impulsive. Anxious. Emotionally driven. The best QBs are cool, calm, calculating, deliberate, methodical. Josh is someone who bets it all against the house, every hand he plays.
@@malachilindo5561he’s not wrong though watch his post game after a loss and Patrick mahomes. Allen is nearly going to cry every time, head down, moist eyes, submissive tone. Mahomes meanwhile accepts what he did was wrong and he has to be better and challenge himself to get better. He’s saddened by the results but he’s not acting like it’s the end of the world. Allen acts like a child playing around on the sidelines while mahomes is telling everyone to get ready. Burrow is the same way cool collected and ready to get back to work. Life isn’t over you’re 26. Allen lacks a champion gene
@@matthewdaniels709 He doesnt have an oline lmao doesnt have 5 recievers and a number 3 oline like mahomes . No run game at all like the chiefs or bengals
@@tonygonzalez9882 you're right but if you want to be in the category of burrow an mahomes you gotta elevate past that last year burrow was the most sacked QB in the regular season an post season an still was only 1 or 2 plays from winning the superbowl allen is a phenomenal talent but hes not a top 3 QB
When it's Josh Allen, there's nuance to them losing at home. When it's Dak, he's trash, the end. Neither has a ring. Neither has an MVP. Neither has made a super bowl. But there's excuses for one, and scorn for another.
Exactly! If Dak played the same game like Josh Allen did and got shellacked by the 49ers 27-10, Shady would've ripped him and blamed him even more than he already did (which he did deserve a bulk of the blame since the Dallas defense kept the 49ers in check, and Dak couldn't capitalize on his opportunities), but then Shady then blaming everyone but Josh Allen for the Bills getting pummeled at home is such a double standard, especially when Josh Allen's physical skills at quarterback surpass Dak. You can see Dave just light up as Shady continues to talk. Joy tries to diffuse the situation (saying two different games, like, "duh"), but if Dak isn't getting a pass (doesn't deserve it, obviously) for scoring 12 points on the road vs the 49ers defense, why should Josh Allen get one for scoring 10 points vs the Bengals at home? On this clip even Acho saw Shady's bias and his frustration showed 😂.
Shady being a Josh Allen apologist right now because that’s his man. You can’t allegedly be the best quarterback in the NFL and put up 10 in an elimination game.
The level of stupidity in this comment is insane. It is not just about the quarterback! What are talking about!! The Offensive line was terrible and they couldn’t run the ball at all…
he has gotten too many passes this year for his turnovers and inconsistent play its ok to say he is extremely talented and say that he played terribly at the same time. he does not deserve a pass they scored 3 more points than the giants who are a lackluster offense. no more excuses for his play. people need to step back and realize that he is a high turnover streaky quarterback who has a high ceiling but also has a tendency to play below expectations more often than not
Bills defense consistently concedes a lot of point in high stakes gales, meaning offense can't get a break Same offense that owes a lot to Allen playing hero ball Allen has his faults but coaching staff is going a bit too much under radar
@@trewilliams8411 😆 It's Shady that's the rude one. His bias and ability as an analyst are what slows this show down. Like in this segment, the way they were all looking at him was hilarious. I hope they replace him for next season.
@@velder22 Nick Wright is the only one keeping it real. Both QBs were trash but since Dak plays for the Cowboys they come at his entire existence while Josh Allen gets to skate by with a pass.
@@skillethead15Nick’s takes are the only ones that stay consistent. Even though he can be insufferable at times I have to hand it to him. He does know what he’s talking about
Really Shady! How many times was Burrow sacked in last years playoffs? NFL record, btw...and he still made it to the SB...so no, Allen does not get a pass.
Last time I checked burrow had zero protection in last years playoff run to the superbowl... but he overcame it. Allen doesn't overcome it but he is still better. Shady is the worst commentator in the space
Josh Allen chose to come out in the third quarter and be the running game.. when they have Cook,Heinz, Singletary and ?? He is believing the hype. The media says Lamar Cam and any other running quarterback won't last long. 5 years Josh is 2-2-1.. good, bad, push.
Buffalo Bills trying to showcase Josh Allen more than winning the game Cook, Heinz and Singletary can run or keep the defense honest by staying with it they try to show that Josh is better than Mahomes and Burrow he's not
U mean hating on Allen and putting all the blame on him because shes a chiefs and mahomes fan lol ded “telling it like it is” even tho she didnt acknowledge and of our offensive line issues, the drops by receivers and the horrible game plan by our coaches on both sides of the ball esp leslie frazier on defense
Saying Josh Allen can’t do anything if he’s getting pressured.. meanwhile Burrow went to the Bowl being the most sacked quarterback in the league last year and has returned nearly leading that category again. Convenient take from the homer.
My only criticism about this show is they don't bring up conversations from the previous takes that they were wrong about & I'm sure it's on the production team not the cast
Sigh. This guy on the far left is ridiculous. Burrow would of gotten “touched” as well if he wasnt getting rid of the ball in less than 2 seconds. Allen could of easily taken what was given to him by the defense with short some check downs instead of playing hero ball.
Shady! Mahomes run for his life majority of his snaps compared to these other great QBs. He HAS to make things happen while on the go! That's what makes him so great! Josh is amazing in the pocket with no pressure, and having two elite WRs! When will Josh show up when life isn't so great in the pocket? He does NOT get a pass!
Allen makes some of his best throws when he is on the run, out of the pocket. Who are his two elite receivers? He has ONE elite wide receiver, and that is Diggs. No one gets a pass on our team for that game.
@Kim Meissner So Gabe Davis hasn't been playing at an elite level these last couple seasons? Allen makes his plays outside the pocket with his legs. There are run plays specifically designed for him to run. He's not known for creating plays outside the pocket with his arm.
Did he? Diggs couldn’t get off the line of scrimmage fast enough when Josh had zero time to throw. Really bad take. Who cares if he gets a pass or not. He’s a top 5 Qb in the NFL.
@@earbo6220 If we are being honest he is top 3 undoubtedly. Who even challenges him outside of Burrow and Mahomes, now that Brady and Rodgers are washed.
I can’t even watch this because it’s sickening to hear Shady’s bias. It’s so clear and Allen is his friend amongst many in the league. The excuses and bias is clear as my contact lenses. I can’t take this show serious with him on this show. It sucks because I can tolerate the rest of the panel.
28 comps 347 and a TD yeah the defense got a few picks but atrocious c'mon dude QBs are leaders and that whole defensive team would tell ya they rallied around Joe's don't quit attitude no excuses my guy good day
The Bills have the same problem The Ravens have: they rely too much on their quarterback's mobility. As for Shady when he said Joe Burrow doesn't get touched my mouth flew open like WHAT!!! I've been saying for the longest that he brings down the show and his takes are buffoonish but this took the cake.
This shows that Allen can't be taught, he needs his hand held. He didn't learn from Daboll after he left. Daboll has to be there to babysit Allen. It's no coincidence that Daniel Jones turnovers went way down this season also.
I actually can't believe the ridiculous pedestal Josh Allen gets put on , it makes me hate the player more . Nick Wright is somehow the only accurate take on him .
Shady is one of those football players without any cerebral side to his game. No good analysis in his head. Josh Allen most definitely does not get a pass. Joe Burrow was cooking and Josh was not
Josh Allen kept getting hit because the Bills offense is predicated on Allen holding the ball and then making the spectacular play. He would be below average if he has to read the defense and get rid of the ball in 2-3 seconds. You can't praise him when it works and then not blame him when it doesn't work.
LeSean McCoy can’t be a good analyst until he can honestly criticize former teammates. The bills where embarrassed and Josh Allen was nowhere to be seen
Burrow is just better, Josh needs a run a game & look more for the check down. Love how Acho held Shady accountable, no pass especially with how he butchered Dak. Lastly, no I'm not putting Dak in the same class as Josh, utter blasphemy. Also someone tell Shady that Burrow was sacked 9 times last year by Titans & still won
That’s the thing it should be way more on Josh if you don’t even put dak on the same level.. you go look at the numbers dak n Josh not to far apart it favors dak
Lol LeSeanMccoy.. come on bud. We're looking at josh allen and his offense only. Stop bringing the bengals offense. If this was lamar you'd be killing him saying he can't throw the ball
Nobody's mentioning how the Bills looked uncomfortable playing in their own winter weather. A team has to be tougher than that and use their home conditions to their advantage.
Weather didn't seem to bother the Bengals at all, they looked right at home. And yes, Cincinnati home games this time of year look the same but still. You're 100% spot on
Bengals D made Bills O look bad. But Dak is bad. Not that SF D made him and the Dallas O look bad. SF D is better then the Bengals D, so why is Dak not getting a pass but Josh is.
Shady has lost all credibility. NO WAY Allen gets a pass. Bills haven’t ran the ball well all year. And at the end of the day, the offense scored 10 points
ACHO. Can we have the SAME energy you were giving Lamar last week talking about Huntley is better because he scored 17 points in 1 play off game. Josh Allen fell short of that to the SAME team Huntley scored on. So does that make Tyler Huntley better that Josh Allen? coz it sure sounded like you were saying he is better than Lamar.
Sometimes guys aren't getting hit because they get the ball out of their hands quick enough. Not fair to say burrow and mahomes had it easier because there was less pressure on them
Shady needs to go. He’s brought this show down and you can tell he has a problem with Dave. Only good thing about this show is Joy. She is always on point.
Josh Allen was a case of playing Hero ball. He’s soo good that he forget to take what the defense gives him. Mahomes went through the same thing last year and the beginning of this year.
I mean the Bengals d line was getting pressure with just 3 lol. Not to mention I heard a stat that the Bengals coverage grade rated perfect coverage on 67% of the drop backs. It's hard to win like that
So Shady cant give Dak a Pass but give Josh Allen a pass... Dak didnt have no Running game vs Tha Niners.. Zeke gettin paid top RB $$$ to get less Yds than tha Backup..😎✌😂
Yall put it all Josh Allen in the first place so that's yalls doin. It's praise and worship for what he did last year in KC but now he can't take that L come on now
Josh deserves his share of blame for the loss just like Dak did. This is not hard. They both shouldn't be entirely to blame tho. There is plenty of blame to go around either way.
The Bills franchise is like the Chargers franchise you can always count on them to shoot themselves in the foot in a high profile playoff game and especially after Von Miller got injured everybody should’ve known that they were done as contenders. I knew
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Nah that show is garbage
Lil' arrogant
I mean do people even realise the monikers will come up with When KC maholmes on one pirates leg if he manages to pull off a second AFC championship title " until Burrows and Maholmes vs each other in this barn burner scenario AFC championship match up I hate 2 say I'm rolling with KC shocking the AFC confrence one more I don't think cincy can pull that off 3 post season games " Key factor like Travis Kelsey that guy has been a Bot regardless of who his pitching Kelsey the ball cincy had its hands full there about to get taste out there own play-calling?
My shady got caught up in that hypocrisy heavy 😂
If it was Lamar Jackson, he would be the talk of Monday conservations
I swear and why acho doesn't bring up those silly comparisons like he does lamar " no player who has gotten paid will win if not the 1st 5 years" bc if it was lamar it'd be can you win with lamar when nobody besides pat has won
what has lamar done latley?
No it wouldn’t. Why are you bringing a hurt Qb who didn’t show up in the conversation? Be a man
@@giffondhall9214 same as josh Allen with less
FACTS!!!!!!
Shady... Joe Burrow was the most sacced QB last year in both the regular season and the post season. He was sacced over 70 times and he overcame being sacced 9 times against the Titans and still won that game. That tied the NFL record of most saccs in a playoff game. He was also sacced 7 times in the super bowl which again.. tied the NFL record for most saccs in a super bowl and he almost won it all.
Sacks* just so you know not trying to be that’s guy lol
Something Joe needs to work on. His Oline isn't good but he could be better at avoiding sacks
@@AscendAR he has been
@@AscendAR joe burrow isn't worried about getting sacked, if he is looking for a play he will go for it if not and he can't find a way out he will take the sack. A lot of the sacks were on his o line but some of them are because of him trying to make a play.
@@AscendAR his o line when healthy is better than last year and this backup line is still better than last year. They brought in a lot of new guys this off season even for defense the defense has become ELITE top 2 in my eyes behind the eagles. So it took a while for them to figure it out which is why Joe had a lot of sacks earlier on this season but they’re an elite line now
Josh Allen needs the same type of criticism that Lamar would’ve gotten
Thank you
Yes.
Facts
on bro
Difference is Lamar has yet to show he is even a threat to win a championship. Allen demonstrated that last year and the year before when he beat Lamar,
Shady making excuses for Josh is laughable... did Josh tried to pass on 3rd and short multiple times for lots of yards instead of trying to get a few yards and 1st downs? Yes he did, he didn't do his job. Stop the excuses.
his own star receiver yelling at him on the sideline and ppl saying he deserves a pass
If it were any other elite QB rather than being childish and seemingly ignoring the person he would've talked it out with them and blamed himself entirely.
Diggs wasn’t getting off the line of scrimmage and Josh had zero time to throw. Nice try though .. the bengals beat down the whole team and ran it down the bills throat. Who cares if a wide receiver barks at a quarterback. Does he see what’s happening behind him?
Let’s call diggs out for being silent and not getting off the line of scrimmage and consistently get open. Get out of here with these garbage takes.
@@earbo6220bro if u watched the game it’s at least 3 + plays where Diggs was open and Josh didn’t even target him.
Diggs sucks. He's a wr2 at best
It's funny how people just do not want to admit that Josh Allen has a lot of problems, I mean that coach leaves and he goes back to two years ago
If people seen the way he actually acts a lot of time they'd know his biggest issues is his attitude, he's always acting childish.
@@Raven.Bloodrot Exactly. He's emotionally immature. Impulsive. Anxious. Emotionally driven. The best QBs are cool, calm, calculating, deliberate, methodical. Josh is someone who bets it all against the house, every hand he plays.
@@Raven.Bloodrot you acting like you know him personally relax bro
@@malachilindo5561he’s not wrong though watch his post game after a loss and Patrick mahomes. Allen is nearly going to cry every time, head down, moist eyes, submissive tone. Mahomes meanwhile accepts what he did was wrong and he has to be better and challenge himself to get better. He’s saddened by the results but he’s not acting like it’s the end of the world. Allen acts like a child playing around on the sidelines while mahomes is telling everyone to get ready. Burrow is the same way cool collected and ready to get back to work. Life isn’t over you’re 26. Allen lacks a champion gene
@@mikehatten5738 Jalen Hurts also has that calming presence
LeSalty McCoy probably threw up this morning realizing he had to talk about another Bengals win
I’m starting to believe they only hired him to be different than the other 3. There’s no way he’s that dumb on his takes, for a human being.
@@rockallday0 My husband said the same thing.
Mahomes didn’t get a pass in the superbowl with a bad o line but Josh allen does in a divisional game?
Make it make sense
Cause Shady benefited lol
Mahomes got a pass, he couldn't even stay in the pocket
Mahomes gets credit for everything
@@ryansteckstor6236 Mahomes doesn’t have a top 5 defense every year
Haven’t even watched it yet and I know McCoy will give Allen a pass - predicable
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On the spot bro didn’t disappoint
Because he cant admit allen is overrated an that he is regressing back to his rookie self without daboll to keep him in line
@@matthewdaniels709 He doesnt have an oline lmao doesnt have 5 recievers and a number 3 oline like mahomes . No run game at all like the chiefs or bengals
@@tonygonzalez9882 you're right but if you want to be in the category of burrow an mahomes you gotta elevate past that last year burrow was the most sacked QB in the regular season an post season an still was only 1 or 2 plays from winning the superbowl allen is a phenomenal talent but hes not a top 3 QB
it funny how fast they turn on him they all were crowning him as the best over Mahome when he never won anything.
Facts none of them spoke on how they all had Allen winning MVP and SB before the season 😂😂😂
They very forgetful n Shady makes excuses for whoever he likes....lol.
He a clown
No respect for Shady. Be honest. Josh blew that game and he wants to give him excuses smh
She said “those were two different games” you’re right cowboys 9ers was a competitive low scoring game, Bengals just dominated the bills 😤🐅
When it's Josh Allen, there's nuance to them losing at home. When it's Dak, he's trash, the end.
Neither has a ring. Neither has an MVP. Neither has made a super bowl. But there's excuses for one, and scorn for another.
THANK YOU!!! I’m glad someone said it.
They hate anybody wearing the star
Exactly! If Dak played the same game like Josh Allen did and got shellacked by the 49ers 27-10, Shady would've ripped him and blamed him even more than he already did (which he did deserve a bulk of the blame since the Dallas defense kept the 49ers in check, and Dak couldn't capitalize on his opportunities), but then Shady then blaming everyone but Josh Allen for the Bills getting pummeled at home is such a double standard, especially when Josh Allen's physical skills at quarterback surpass Dak. You can see Dave just light up as Shady continues to talk. Joy tries to diffuse the situation (saying two different games, like, "duh"), but if Dak isn't getting a pass (doesn't deserve it, obviously) for scoring 12 points on the road vs the 49ers defense, why should Josh Allen get one for scoring 10 points vs the Bengals at home? On this clip even Acho saw Shady's bias and his frustration showed 😂.
Thank you🫡
Bro imagine if Shady played for every team in the nfl. He wouldnt able to criticize anyone without being biased lmao
Be quiet
💯💯💯 he’s sooo biased he consistent with it tho. I knew he wouldn’t blame Allen cuz he played with him smh
Josh Allen does not get a pass the Dolphins exposed him in every game even though he had stats his mistakes is what kept us in every single game
He can't take the blitz. I'm starting to think Lamar is better than josh Allen.
@@TheBoss-ey1li cause he is
@J Money Allen would look the same w/o a #1 receiver too
What did he do in the second game ?
@@TheBoss-ey1li bro he he has a completion rate of 70 percent against the blitz what are you talking about 💀
Dave was right about that Josh and Dak point
He was spot on
Josh Allen played 2 bad playoff games in a row. He was the problem. Joy was speaking truth.
What about the offensive line, running backs, offensive line, and receivers? What about the defense?
@@earbo6220 he gets all the credit when they win so he will get all the blame when they lose. 10 points wont get it done.
@@earbo6220 Bengals were missing 3 offensive linemen starters
Shady being a Josh Allen apologist right now because that’s his man. You can’t allegedly be the best quarterback in the NFL and put up 10 in an elimination game.
The level of stupidity in this comment is insane. It is not just about the quarterback! What are talking about!!
The Offensive line was terrible and they couldn’t run the ball at all…
That is why Josh Allen is no longer a top 2 QB. You cannot be the second coming of Elway and score TEN points... AT HOME!!!!!
@@IvanRodriguez-kp3nr he was never a top 2 QB. Y’all were way into Allen.
@@n64central I never put him 2. But all the analyst sure did
he has gotten too many passes this year for his turnovers and inconsistent play its ok to say he is extremely talented and say that he played terribly at the same time. he does not deserve a pass they scored 3 more points than the giants who are a lackluster offense. no more excuses for his play. people need to step back and realize that he is a high turnover streaky quarterback who has a high ceiling but also has a tendency to play below expectations more often than not
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One of the worst o lines getting pressure 17 times. Lmao no run game wither
Besides the point; but he has also yet to lose against patty mahones!
@@tonygonzalez9882Dude the qb on the other side made it to a super bowl the previous year getting sacked 9 times in one game. Josh is overrated
@@victorflores429 does the term "13 seconds" ring a bell?
When a team doesn't run the ball, this is the results. That was the Bills. The Bengals ran the ball.
Tell that to the chiefs. Mahomes won a frickin SB with ZERO run game
Bills defense consistently concedes a lot of point in high stakes gales, meaning offense can't get a break
Same offense that owes a lot to Allen playing hero ball
Allen has his faults but coaching staff is going a bit too much under radar
@@motoxtim34 Damein Williams ran for 117 and had a TD in that SB
You would think this isn't a "passing league" as they say...🤔
@@GetenIce you could argue he should've won the sb mvp
Kudos to Acho for calling Shady out on his hypocrisy.
Come on man acho is rude
@@trewilliams8411 😆 It's Shady that's the rude one. His bias and ability as an analyst are what slows this show down. Like in this segment, the way they were all looking at him was hilarious. I hope they replace him for next season.
not gonna lie shady would be a nice guest, but he can be a bit too narrow minded
How did none of them talk about Joe burrow getting sacked 9 times last season in one game and still winning? Shady is dead wrong here
They scared of shady. I know acho was thinking that but he ain’t want no more smoke with shady smh
And Mahomes running for his life when Shady won the Super Bowl lol
Joe Burrow missing 3 linemen still went crazy. Josh Allen lead the league in turnovers and didn’t take easy plays.
It's crazy to me that some people are really trying to say he didn't play bad and everyone else but Diggs are trash lol
Yeah man it's crazy, everybody came out today and trashed Dak, I think Allen played just as good as Dak did and nobody saying s*** about him today
@@velder22 Nick Wright is the only one keeping it real. Both QBs were trash but since Dak plays for the Cowboys they come at his entire existence while Josh Allen gets to skate by with a pass.
@@skillethead15Nick’s takes are the only ones that stay consistent. Even though he can be insufferable at times I have to hand it to him. He does know what he’s talking about
If the Bills and the Bengals would have traded QBs before the the game. Burrow still would have found a way to win.
No
@@robertcollins894 Talk to me Monday morning hommie.
Really Shady! How many times was Burrow sacked in last years playoffs? NFL record, btw...and he still made it to the SB...so no, Allen does not get a pass.
Shady on his own planet with this one. They all lookin at him like bruh you trippin just be quiet
Dude shady speaking facts what the f you talking about
Can’t make the whole offense one dude. It makes good defenses job super easy. Best one dude you beat the whole offense essentially 1v11
@@trewilliams8411 .. No he not so WTF you talking about
When the room gets quiet on your take… you know you trippin shady 😂😂😂
Last time I checked burrow had zero protection in last years playoff run to the superbowl... but he overcame it. Allen doesn't overcome it but he is still better. Shady is the worst commentator in the space
Allen is literally the number 1 rated QB under pressure lol come on
Josh Allen chose to come out in the third quarter and be the running game.. when they have Cook,Heinz, Singletary and ?? He is believing the hype. The media says Lamar Cam and any other running quarterback won't last long. 5 years Josh is 2-2-1.. good, bad, push.
Buffalo Bills trying to showcase Josh Allen more than winning the game Cook, Heinz and Singletary can run or keep the defense honest by staying with it they try to show that Josh is better than Mahomes and Burrow he's not
i love how Joy sees it and tells it like it is.
Joy is a straight shooter.
Despite the revealing tops.
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U mean hating on Allen and putting all the blame on him because shes a chiefs and mahomes fan lol ded “telling it like it is” even tho she didnt acknowledge and of our offensive line issues, the drops by receivers and the horrible game plan by our coaches on both sides of the ball esp leslie frazier on defense
Shady McCoy should not be an analyst. He is wrong about literally everything
Joe burrow got to a superbowl getting hit every play last year
Nicely exaggerated there.
Facts now all of a sudden Allen gets hit a few times and that’s an excuse to lose smh
@@teddv I mean, getting sacked 70 times when u include the playoffs last year, he didn’t have to exaggerate too much lol
@@HollyG95 didn’t burrow lose? And the excuse was his line? Stupid
To be fair, his defense also forced multiple turnovers in every game.
Saying Josh Allen can’t do anything if he’s getting pressured.. meanwhile Burrow went to the Bowl being the most sacked quarterback in the league last year and has returned nearly leading that category again. Convenient take from the homer.
My only criticism about this show is they don't bring up conversations from the previous takes that they were wrong about & I'm sure it's on the production team not the cast
This show their lack of honesty.
Sigh. This guy on the far left is ridiculous. Burrow would of gotten “touched” as well if he wasnt getting rid of the ball in less than 2 seconds. Allen could of easily taken what was given to him by the defense with short some check downs instead of playing hero ball.
Did you not watch the game?
Seriously bro… What are you talking about. Burrow had all days go watch the film
Josh Allen isnt built like that he’s not that guy
How does a healthy qb with weapons get a pass? Would Rodgers get a pass? Would Lamar get a pass?
Would Dak get a pass?
everybody came out today and trashed Dak, I think Allen played just as bad as Dak did and nobody saying s*** about him today
Cuz ones a cowboy and they hate the cowboys
@@Cowboys_by_20 I hate the cowboys and I'm baffled by this but I do not like Josh Allen very much either LOL
@@velder22 u notice joe burrow threw 2 interceptions yesterday and nobody talking about it . But it’s if was dak it would of been world news
Josh Allen looking like Christian McCaffrey out there under center. Like they was running Wildcat.
Allen is a TE playing QB.
Acho I’m tired of you, if this was Lamar you would be calling for his job.
Shady is worst than Acho for this discussion, Shady is trying to give Allen a pass
@@BillyBob000-r4sshiiii crazy bruh.
Shady! Mahomes run for his life majority of his snaps compared to these other great QBs. He HAS to make things happen while on the go! That's what makes him so great! Josh is amazing in the pocket with no pressure, and having two elite WRs! When will Josh show up when life isn't so great in the pocket? He does NOT get a pass!
Allen makes some of his best throws when he is on the run, out of the pocket. Who are his two elite receivers? He has ONE elite wide receiver, and that is Diggs. No one gets a pass on our team for that game.
@Kim Meissner So Gabe Davis hasn't been playing at an elite level these last couple seasons? Allen makes his plays outside the pocket with his legs. There are run plays specifically designed for him to run. He's not known for creating plays outside the pocket with his arm.
Buffalo scored 10 points Shady!
His star receiver Diggs had every right to snap on Josh Allen he was missing him all night. No he doesn't get a pass.
Did he? Diggs couldn’t get off the line of scrimmage fast enough when Josh had zero time to throw. Really bad take. Who cares if he gets a pass or not. He’s a top 5 Qb in the NFL.
@@earbo6220 If we are being honest he is top 3 undoubtedly. Who even challenges him outside of Burrow and Mahomes, now that Brady and Rodgers are washed.
Shady keep that same energy with Josh as Dakota
Sorry Joy, there were only 2 things I was focused on when you were talking and it wasn't Allen or Bills
Lasalty making excuses for Josh Allen this is sad
but if this was lamar lol..?? what a joke lmfao
Sorry Shady. Go watch Kurt Warner's QB confidential. Allen missed a ton of plays he had out there. No pass!
So can we finally put this Josh Allen is better than mahomes argument to rest?
It was never an argument mahomes has never not been better than Allen
It was never close...stop watching espn. They make you think its close and its not
Don't ever compare Allen to Mahomes ever
McCoy still sleeping on cincinnatis defense still
I can’t even watch this because it’s sickening to hear Shady’s bias. It’s so clear and Allen is his friend amongst many in the league. The excuses and bias is clear as my contact lenses. I can’t take this show serious with him on this show. It sucks because I can tolerate the rest of the panel.
Joe burrow found a way to beat the #1 seed getting sacked nine times shady last season no excuses
Umm, that was not burrow finding a way. The defense won that game my guy. Burrow looked atrocious in his own right
28 comps 347 and a TD yeah the defense got a few picks but atrocious c'mon dude QBs are leaders and that whole defensive team would tell ya they rallied around Joe's don't quit attitude no excuses my guy good day
@@kenhammock1346 yeah how many points did he score? The defense won it buddy
Shady McCoy hates the bengals so much that he will never give them credit.
Josh Allen played worse than Dak against a far less talented defense than the 49ers at home 😂
The Bills have the same problem The Ravens have: they rely too much on their quarterback's mobility. As for Shady when he said Joe Burrow doesn't get touched my mouth flew open like WHAT!!! I've been saying for the longest that he brings down the show and his takes are buffoonish but this took the cake.
Agreed...hear hear...but he give crazy work, but that's when his credibility ends.
6:44 is why we’re here
Josh Allen is a east coast Phillip Rivers
Even wearing the number!
I think the unspoken issue here is how much the Bills OBVIOUSLY miss Brian Daboll
This shows that Allen can't be taught, he needs his hand held. He didn't learn from Daboll after he left. Daboll has to be there to babysit Allen. It's no coincidence that Daniel Jones turnovers went way down this season also.
Shady crying about nobody blocking for Allen is hilarious when you remember he won a Super Bowl because nobody was blocking for Mahomes
And no one blamed Mahomes for that game. Similar to how no one should be blaming Allen for this
I actually can't believe the ridiculous pedestal Josh Allen gets put on , it makes me hate the player more . Nick Wright is somehow the only accurate take on him .
McCoy is a big Bengals hater!!! He literally still trying to say Allen is better than Burrow!!! Its the delusion for me 🤣🤣🤣
Shady is one of those football players without any cerebral side to his game. No good analysis in his head. Josh Allen most definitely does not get a pass. Joe Burrow was cooking and Josh was not
Josh Allen kept getting hit because the Bills offense is predicated on Allen holding the ball and then making the spectacular play. He would be below average if he has to read the defense and get rid of the ball in 2-3 seconds. You can't praise him when it works and then not blame him when it doesn't work.
Shady is quick to jump on Dak, but will give anyone else a pass
How McCoy has job is a mystery????????????
How tf is Mccoy on T.V. Allen is not bout that life 😴
With all due respect I have no issue making Joy a single mom
nah fr
Say something we don’t know fam
You speak for us all
Preach
Get in line my guy
LeSean McCoy can’t be a good analyst until he can honestly criticize former teammates. The bills where embarrassed and Josh Allen was nowhere to be seen
He literally criticized one of his friends that is on the Bills O-line.
Turn your brain on - or your ears, for that matter…
He gave Josh a pass. Maybe you should turn on your ears
Burrow is just better, Josh needs a run a game & look more for the check down. Love how Acho held Shady accountable, no pass especially with how he butchered Dak. Lastly, no I'm not putting Dak in the same class as Josh, utter blasphemy. Also someone tell Shady that Burrow was sacked 9 times last year by Titans & still won
That’s the thing it should be way more on Josh if you don’t even put dak on the same level.. you go look at the numbers dak n Josh not to far apart it favors dak
you people are crazy shady speaking facts acho is rude and disrespectful
Lol LeSeanMccoy.. come on bud. We're looking at josh allen and his offense only. Stop bringing the bengals offense. If this was lamar you'd be killing him saying he can't throw the ball
McCoy has contradicted himself more in the few months he's been on TV than Skip Bayless his entire career
Nobody's mentioning how the Bills looked uncomfortable playing in their own winter weather. A team has to be tougher than that and use their home conditions to their advantage.
Weather didn't seem to bother the Bengals at all, they looked right at home. And yes, Cincinnati home games this time of year look the same but still.
You're 100% spot on
No he doesn’t, Josh Allen and the bills are the Dak and cowboys of the AFC😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bengals D made Bills O look bad. But Dak is bad. Not that SF D made him and the Dallas O look bad. SF D is better then the Bengals D, so why is Dak not getting a pass but Josh is.
Shady has lost all credibility. NO WAY Allen gets a pass. Bills haven’t ran the ball well all year. And at the end of the day, the offense scored 10 points
Shady = Cappin'
Joy gives me "JOY"
ACHO. Can we have the SAME energy you were giving Lamar last week talking about Huntley is better because he scored 17 points in 1 play off game. Josh Allen fell short of that to the SAME team Huntley scored on. So does that make Tyler Huntley better that Josh Allen? coz it sure sounded like you were saying he is better than Lamar.
Excellent point by shady. The fresh legs on those backup linemen might have been a blessing
Burrow didn’t get pressured at all lol
😂😂😂😂
Get em Dave and Acho! Not…something I’m used to saying. Weird.
First time I’ve ever watched a clip from this show… Shady is delusional
Sometimes guys aren't getting hit because they get the ball out of their hands quick enough. Not fair to say burrow and mahomes had it easier because there was less pressure on them
Shady needs to go. He’s brought this show down and you can tell he has a problem with Dave. Only good thing about this show is Joy. She is always on point.
Josh Allen was a case of playing Hero ball. He’s soo good that he forget to take what the defense gives him. Mahomes went through the same thing last year and the beginning of this year.
I mean the Bengals d line was getting pressure with just 3 lol. Not to mention I heard a stat that the Bengals coverage grade rated perfect coverage on 67% of the drop backs. It's hard to win like that
Why does Dak and Dallas get all the blame but when josh Allen loses and throws picks as well, scores less points and loses he gets a pass?
So Shady cant give Dak a Pass but give Josh Allen a pass... Dak didnt have no Running game vs Tha Niners.. Zeke gettin paid top RB $$$ to get less Yds than tha Backup..😎✌😂
he get a pass shady a lame if it was the Bengals that lost he would be choking burrow out
Yall put it all Josh Allen in the first place so that's yalls doin. It's praise and worship for what he did last year in KC but now he can't take that L come on now
Josh Allen is not a contending qb. He has the body, but not the mind. Buffalo should trade him now before his dead cap goes up.
Shady for sure nothing but shadyness
Dude you people are crazy shady speaking facts acho is rude and disrespectful
Just a bad performance in every phase of the game. I blame most of it on the coordinators and poor coaching, but Josh does not get a pass.
It's hard to block for a QB that takes 12 step dropbacks from shotgun. It's basically blocking for a punt, but for longer.
Josh deserves his share of blame for the loss just like Dak did. This is not hard. They both shouldn't be entirely to blame tho. There is plenty of blame to go around either way.
you knew Shady was gonna give him a pass
The Bills franchise is like the Chargers franchise you can always count on them to shoot themselves in the foot in a high profile playoff game and especially after Von Miller got injured everybody should’ve known that they were done as contenders. I knew
Shady is trippin
How is he trippin? He is 100 percent right. How can you compare them in this game? Every play Josh is pressured, whereas Joe has all day back there…
you people are crazy shady speaking facts acho is rude and disrespectful
@Garrett Berger You must be a Bills fan. Josh had opportunities and he came up way short.
@@NatureBoii99 ... Thank You