A very interesting point. Although I would argue that it feels like Silco also didn't fully accept Jinx, because he rejected the part of her that was "weak" and the part that Vi spoke to. I love Silco-Jinx relationship, because it shows that everyone deserves love, and that parent's love directly influences child's self worth. Vi's approach to Jinx was radical, because she didn't accept the bad parts of her sister, wanted to do nothing with them, and was willing to teach Jinx lessons kind of harshly, in order for Jinx to grow up good. Silco accepted the bad part of Jinx and showed her that there was nothing wrong with who she was. But the best parent for Jinx would probably be someone who could love Jinx the way Silco did and at the same time teach her good morals
I love where you're coming from!! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and insights!!! And I totally agree haha, Silco did not have the best morals and he also couldn't fully embrace Jinx's weaknesses and vulnerabilities (even though he had good intentions to protect her in that way). I think this is because Silco never accepted his own weaknesses to begin with, which would explain why he would condemn the "weaknesses" in others (Jinx, Vander, etc.). He failed to recognize that these so-called "weaknesses" can actually be strengths. That real strength isn't about overpowering others. I love Silco and Jinx's relationship not because it's perfect or necessarily "healthy," but because they needed each other (for better or for worse). Silco found his humanity through Jinx. And like you mentioned, Jinx learned to accept the darker parts of herself because of Silco. In terms of parenting, both Silco and Vi had their share of blind spots. Vi wanted to shield Jinx from the darkness and brokenness of their world (and to keep her safe). But what Jinx also needed was Vi's companionship and sacrifice. And Silco met Jinx in the ways that Vi couldn't. Vi couldn't forsake the people she loved, whereas, Silco loved nobody but Jinx. So his sacrifice ultimately led Jinx to believe that "Jinx is perfect and worthy of sacrifice." But, that was also the moment where Powder really "died." I feel like the most heartbreaking part is that both Vi and Silco tried their best to love Jinx, but they couldn't see that both Powder and Jinx were 'perfect'. 😭
@RainbowWong Yes, they both failed Jinx, because both refused to embrace her fully. Although Silco gave her more than Vi could, which is his unconditional love, so Jinx chose her 'dark side' in the end. They both needed each other, you're right, but I think their love is actually what led them to their mutual moral downfall. Maybe it would've been better if they never met, honestly. For Silco Jinx became a light of his life, but for Jinx Silco was only a part of what she needed, since he couldn't help her deal with her good side, which is somewhere there still. I wonder what will happen in S2 to Jinx' character? Will she reconsider her choice to be bad or will she be ruled by hatred, jealousy still? I think it's the second option since she sent a rocket to the parliament, and to Vi she did something irredeemable again. Plus, Vi has Caitlyn at her side, which makes Jinx' hatred for her even deeper. What do you think? And thanks for the video
@@alext-rex5492 I loved when you said, "their love is actually what led them to their mutual moral downfall." Such a tragic but beautiful way to articulate what happened in their relationship. I think you're absolutely right. Silco and Jinx genuinely loved each other but I don't think their love was built on a firm foundation. As in, their love wasn't grounded on "truth." Like, what does it mean to actually love someone? What is true about love? I don't think Silco and Jinx really understood what it meant to truly love. They tried to love each other, but they didn't love each other well. As for S2, I anticipate that Jinx could become the next villain, like Silco. But I feel like a redemptive arc is also possible for the sake of 'character development.' So maybe Jinx will get darker initially, and then something significant happens in her life that might alter her path in a positive way. Haha I honestly don't know. But I'm excited for sure!!
If you think that Silco didn't accept Jinx's "weak" side as well, I want you to explain the drawings on nearly every square inch of his office, and the mannequins and old connections to her life that litter Jinx's bedroom that Silco is clearly aware of. There's a difference between a father wanting their child to make a certain choice, and a father "rejecting" the other side of them. Silco wants Jinx to be strong, but more than this - he truly understands that she *is* strong and wants her to see it for herself.
@ShadowKain666 you didn't see a scene at the river where Silco literally told Jinx that he destroyed his weaker side one day, submerged himself into the water and did the same with Jinx later on? You really didn't catch up the meaning of this scene or it was too hard of a concept?
I'm obsessed with Arcane and I think the relationship between Silco and Jinx is so intresting and one of my favourite father daughter relationships in media.
Totally!! I loved seeing Jinx and Silco's relationship develop throughout Arcane. Their time together is full of love and heartbreak, but it's also what makes their connection unique and beautiful. :') Thank you for stopping by, chloe! ☺
Jinx ended up accepting herself as Jinx when Silco showed that even when killed on accident he doesn't care about dying he cares about Jinx's wellbeing and tells her that she's perfect. It broke Jinx's her heart to hear how through it all he never once treated her like Vi did. And that's why Jinx said it was Vi who made Jinx not Silco or the others when she was at her lowest Vi punched her so hard she started bleeding from her nose and when Vi saw what she did she felt horrible and walked out because she couldn't think straight anymore she lost so much and couldn't process it all she wanted to go back to Jinx to apologize but that's where she got abducted and taken to prison. Vi's guilt must have eaten her alive all this time. So unfortunate for both sisters.
I think one thing that is important to remember, is that the environment that they live in, if you are born into a war, and your parents teach you how to fight and kill, they are not being abusive, they are trying to help you, if you are born into normal modern society and your parents teach you how to kill, then there is sth wrong... it all depends on the situation. We cannot judge people that are pushed to a corner from thw luxury of our own life. Silco tried his best to prepare Jinx for the reality of their environment based on her abilities and personalities as well as his own. So was he a good dad based on OUR standards? Nope! Was he a good dad based on the situation he was given? I think so. He was also talented in being a dad, how he managed to calm down Jinx after her experience to the degree that she would be able to learn and focus so much on her skills... is amazing really.
Im sorry but he still manipulated her. He lied to her when he found out Vi came back and then when Jinx got upset about that he manipulated her saying she only came back for the crystal, that she left her and betrayed her, and he is her only family the only person she can trust. The show also makes it clear that she doesn’t fight because she has to or out of necessity, but because she wants to (mostly because she wants to please Silco)
@@Anonymous-i8y I am personaly not against the "you can only trust me" mentality since they are getting back-stabbed left and right. And I always try to judge the situation by considering the environment they grew and live. What Silco DID wrong is being too afraid to lose her when Vi comes back (Silco has abandonment issue himself) which is understanding, but still wrong in how it affected Jinx. The scene that he is telling her that, is definately the lowest point in their relationship I agree. I don't agree that they don't need to fight. They do, otherwise their situation will never change.
Was so interesting to me how relatable the Silco became as the series progressed and that the viewer almost doesn't want him to die. Loved your analysis of what made Silco tick.
Aww thank you for such a kind comment!! :') Yuups, Silco is such a well-written character with internal conflicts that we can relate to. A heartbreaking yet beautiful story 😭
The way I see it, if you look at Jinx as a character and look back and try to put together a past for her, Silco was just about the best dad she could've got. Enough space to go wild, enough leeway to run wild, finances, training and a streak for illegal activities. Someone who provided all that and also gave her ample amounts of much needed validation as she grew up into a fine young woman.
I think it is worth noting that throughout Arcane Silco told Jinx "Jinx is Perfect" but his last words were slightly different. "You're Perfect". I think that had a deeper and more powerful meaning, behind his words. It was like Silco was not saying Jinx is perfect but who She is, His Daughter is Perfect. Find someone that will tell you you're perfect despite your flaws. Now I think Jinx will have less voices in her head from this point on, she is now comfortable enough and reassured that she is Fine how she is.
This was excellent, and I totally agree. Most ppl only see the financial in black and white but his and her characters are much much deeper. It's very touching and tragic but is imo the most heart warming part of the series. The most important part I feel is that Silco gave Jinx validation, he valued her over everything else including his freedom and his nation of Zaun
Yes I feel you!! Jinx and Silco are both tragic, empathetic characters. Empathetic in the sense that we can connect with their suffering personally. I agree with you in that it isn't always about the black and white, and that there is so much more to Silco and Jinx's relationship than "all the bad things they did." I believe that Silco loved Jinx with all his heart...even though his love came from a place of deep brokenness. That's the part I find most tragic and touching. 🥹💔
I also believe that Silco saw in Jinx him self, someone who was abandoned for doing what they thought was right and being punished. Both being left in similar situations, betrayed by the ones they trusted the most, ofc Vi's account she never actually abandoned powder but had a higher priority then her, like her moral duty and a sense of justice. All powder/Jinx ever really wanted was acknowledgement which Silco, coming from a similar background, gave her. It's funny, looking back at the show. Although Jinx and Silco were clearly villains, I almost feel like they weren't the worst, in regards to Piltover and their high and mighty society. So, who was the true villains we gotta ask our selves. Those that faught for a povertous Nation oppressed by middle/higher class citizens and maybe went about in a very violent and destuctive way or, those that seek to better their own city regardless of the rule. After all, Royce attacked Zaun before they did :) Food for thought @@therapywithrainbow
I am a person that thinks Silco and Jinxes relationship wasn’t good. Still I can see the gray area they loved and cared for each other and tried to help each other how they thought was best, but I don’t think their relationship was healthy it was very co dependent (physically and emotionally) Jinx especially didn’t have anyone else in her life that she cared about or who cared about her besides Silco.
Yeahh he did soo many bad things, but he still managed to capture our hearts. 😭 Silco genuinely loved Jinx, and even tho he wasn't a perfect dad, I think he really did try his best. 🥲
aww thank you so much my friend!! It's taking me a while but I'm soo happy to know that you love arcane and that you enjoy my videos!! 🥰❤ Truly means the world!!!
Silco and Jinx are the most interesting characters in Arcane. I'm surprised that many seem to miss the nuance and complexity in Silco's character. Good analysis. One of the few I've seen that treats Silco as a 3-dimensional character. I've seen other reactions that just reduce Silco to an abuser, manipulator or just some 1-dimensional villain. I was hoping you'd touch on the confrontation between Jinx, Vi, and Silco at the end of the season. In Vi's naive attempt to save Jinx, she inadvertently pushed Jinx off the edge. Everything she was saying was bringing out all of Jinx's demons, and Vi was completely unaware of the harm she was causing. Silco, on the other hand, saw it clearly and made the attempt to shut Vi up, until ultimately pulling a gun on Vi. Jinx picks up on the danger, but it isn't clear how she interpreted it beyond that in the heat of the moment. She fires reflexively and kills Silco in the process. This whole setup is a psychological mess. You have Vi, who we can consider the most psychologically stable of the 3, but also psychologically inept. She has absolutely no understanding of Jinx's condition, and foolishly attempts to 'fix' Jinx by forcing what she thinks is right. Vi is completely unaware of how destructive she is, which is why Jinx ultimately rejects her. Then, you have Silco, who to a reasonable degree understands Jinx, but not enough to know how to solve the problem properly. Silco, who is also not the most psychologically stable, not to mention harbors anger towards an oppressive world (among other things), is trying to protect his adopted daughter from Vi's barrage of inconsiderate words. His own background makes him potentially as much a loose cannon as Jinx, if not worse. Was it a good idea to pull a gun to Vi's face? Absolutely not. Is it understandable, considering Silco's background, why he may have ended up doing so? Absolutely. It's sad really. Both Vi and Silco care about and want to help Jinx. Vi is reasonably, mentally healthy, but has absolutely no understanding of Jinx's mental state. Vi is naive at best, destructive to Jinx at worst. Silco is broken and unfit to help Jinx heal, but is probably the only one who has any real understanding of her. Silco, given his background, can only offer Jinx what has worked for him. When Jinx loses her agency, the best Silco can do is take control and try to solve things the way he understands. Both are unable to help Jinx in the end. If you ask me, between Vi and Silco, Vi is the more dangerous one to Jinx. At least Silco can see Jinx as she is, not as he wants her to be. Regardless of what one thinks of his methods or morals, he does not strip Jinx of her identity or agency, he argues with her as an equal. Vi, on the other hand, is deluded with her idea of Powder and couldn't see beyond that. She tries to force her own ideals on Jinx, ultimately ignoring all of Jinx's feelings and struggles. It's frightening how there are so many people like Vi in the real world, and I particularly dislike such people. People consider Silco to be the villain but don't realize how much a hand Vi plays in Jinx's downfall. The title of the last episode is literally 'The Monster You Created', referring to Vi creating Jinx. If anything, Silco may have been the one keeping Jinx afloat. If anyone thinks Silco is a villain, they should consider Vi to be just as much. And if anyone thinks Jinx is a sympathetic character, they should feel the same way about Silco. I'm somewhat glad Silco died in the end though. His story is fixed and perfect, and it is unlikely it would be ruined in the future.
I don’t understand why multiple therapists are saying this is a healthy relationship. First of all Jinx has no friends, family (Jinx didn’t know Vi was alive), or relationships outside of Silco witch makes them co dependent on each other. Next Silco manipulates her and uses her “do you remember how she left you who cared for you I am your family everyone else betrays us” not to mention how he uses her in his work and how when he meets Vi again he says how much stronger Jinx is than her. Also the writers intension was to make their relationship feel off like Jinx sitting on Silco’s lap like a child. We’re not even supposed to be rooting for their relationship, Vi is our main protagonist we as the audience are rooting for her to succeed in her goals and her goal is to find powder and latter distroy Silco (also Silco is the antagonist who is ment to stop Vi from achieving her goals) I know they loved and cared for each other but that didn’t make their relationship healthy.
Because it's a war? And a poverty world??? We can't judge them based on our standards... They were the most healthy relationship in the show considering the place they grew up in... Jinx and Silco were always treated as crap by everyone around them... Silco only wanted his home to not be poor anymore, and she only wanted to impress her father... They aren't perfect or good people, but they tried to do the right thing by horrible actions. They are antiheroes...
Characters who probably shouldn’t be taking care of children having to basically become a parent is such a fun thing to see/read. The only other time I’ve seen this is somehow both better and worse: an affably evil scientist/demon of wrath transforms into an octopus and watching over a small girl. Granted, the girl later goes on to be an assassin and a dictator, but still. Oh, yeah, she also nukes the world and has to help save it.
Silco is like the perfect dad I guess by his own standards. He wants to mold her into a certain shape and he’s taking all the right steps to do so. But good fatherhood tends not to be characterized by your child becoming a mass murderer who can’t connect with other people, including their family (who you actively tried to hide from her through gaslighting and quietly having said family killed). But at least he succeeded in affirming her… identity and sorta solving her anxious attachment. She ended up kidnapping and killing him after he attempted to murder her sister in front of her whom she had also kidnapped and tried to get to commit murder against someone she schizophrenically hallucinates as an impish monster trying to replace her. But don’t worry, he’s a great dad actually. If we qualify good fatherhood as simply caring about your child.
Hi, thank you for your feedback! It is totally okay to have different perspectives on this. The main point I was trying to make was that Silco was the 'perfect' father for Jinx because there was no one else available at the time. It doesn't mean he was a perfect father by any means, and I do not condone the ways in which he was abusive or manipulative (although these weren't the main points addressed in the video). From an attachment perspective, I believe Powder may have died if Silco didn't save her and become her adoptive parent. I hope this gives you more clarity in terms of where I stand. And yes, I am a licensed therapist practicing in BC, Canada. :) Hope you have a wonderful day!
Silco was the best father for Jinx. Unfortunately what Powder needed was the best father for Powder, not someone who would push her deeper into the well of mental illness until she came out Jinx on the other end. Powder probably would have been better off as a street urchin hoping to be taken in by a random person.
Wait... a therapist? Like... an official one, with a degree? How old are you, if I may ask? As for Silco: there is no doubt he loves her, but if he's the "perfect father" for her... is highly doubtful. Only in the context of having a toxic sort of mutual bond, mayhaps. Let's also not forget he lied his azz off and tried to kill her sister, just out of fear he would loose her; but isn't it the duty of a parent to let go at a certain point, instead of trying to control the lives of your children? He was clearly also manipulating her to a high degree. So...she could have fared worse, granted, like with a non-loving and far more abusing father, but she could have fared better as well - like if Vander would still have been alive and taken care of her. Loving someone and being fit to raise someone, are two different things. While you can't have the latter without the former, but vice versa is perfectly possible. So I don't agree with those that claim Silco doesn't lover her and only manipulates her: he clearly does, BUT he also manipulates her and tries to psychologically restrict her (to him). that's why he's a great villain: he's clearly evil, but he isn't ALL evil. He does fatherly things, true, but he also does things that doesn't benefit the growth of his daughter.
Yes, I'm a therapist with a masters degree in counselling. I've worked with individuals, couples, and families. 😅 I wouldn't say I'm a 'seasoned' therapist though because I'm only in my mid-20's. This channel is my creative outlet and gives me the opportunity to explore my areas of interests. ☺
As for your comment on Silco & Jinx: I think we can all agree that Silco did not have the best morals and he also couldn't fully embrace Jinx's weaknesses and vulnerabilities (even though he had good intentions to protect her in that way). I think this is because Silco never accepted his own weaknesses to begin with, which would explain why he would condemn the "weaknesses" in others (Jinx, Vander, etc.). He failed to recognize that these so-called "weaknesses" can actually be strengths. That real strength isn't about overpowering others. I love Silco and Jinx's relationship not because it's perfect or necessarily "healthy," (like what you mentioned about his manipulative nature), but because they needed each other- or better or for worse. Silco found his humanity through Jinx, and Jinx learned to accept the darker parts of herself because of Silco. In terms of parenting, both Silco and Vi had their share of blind spots. Vi wanted to shield Jinx from the darkness and brokenness of their world (and to keep her safe). But what Jinx also needed was Vi's companionship and sacrifice. And Silco met Jinx in the ways that Vi couldn't. Vi couldn't forsake the people she loved, whereas, Silco loved nobody but Jinx. So his sacrifice ultimately led Jinx to believe that "Jinx is perfect and worthy of sacrifice." But, that was also the moment where Powder really "died." I feel like the most heartbreaking part is that both Vi and Silco tried their best to love Jinx, but they couldn't see that both Powder and Jinx were 'perfect'. There are no perfect parents, but I personally believe that Silco was "perfect" for Jinx because she had no one else left to raise her. She survived because Silco adopted her. I really feel like he tried his best as a father, but unfortunately he didn't have the tools, resources, and self-awareness to guide Jinx. He was a broken man with a broken past. And he couldn't help Jinx heal from her trauma because Silco never dealt with his own traumas. It's like saying the blind can't lead the blind. Our relationships can only be as "healthy" as we are. Healthy people have healthy relationships. Unfortunately that wasn't the case for Silco and Jinx, but it also doesn't take away our love for them!!
@@therapywithrainbow Just asking because you seemed awfully young. I was thinking between 17-20, which would be too young to have a masters... but well, some people look younger than they are. Will come in handy in ten years. ;-)
@@therapywithrainbow Thanx for the elaborate answer; it's much appreciated. I think we largely agree with each other, then. I think the point that Silco needed Jinx to regain some of his humanity is more correct than vice versa, though. Jinx found an anchor in Silco, agreed, but only because she didn't have anyone else around. Silco did his best at parenting and being "fatherly", true, but it clearly had also it's toxic side, and one can't really call their relationship "healthy" in any normal sense. she probably would have fared better under Vander, and her trauma's being better taken care off; it's clear she has severe mental problems, and I don't have the impression Silco did much about that. so, it is, indeed, a mixed bag. They *sort of* were a good match, and at the same time, they weren't. He needed her, and she needed him, and he was manipulative at times, and fatherly at others. I guess, this is what makes it a great show. It's without a doubt he loved her, and vice versa, so people not even recognizing that, didn't really watch the series well. ;-) Only, for raising a child well, love is essential, but *not enough*.
i don’t understand why people continue to try to defend his actions or say he “tired his best” when he’s literally a manipulative and abusive groomer 😭 more than that, i don’t understand how therapists continue to miss it. are they even paying attention? you’d think they’d be able to pick up on such obvious and in-your-face abuse 😭. not to mention, the writers or creators confirmed that silco was aware he was manipulating jinx, so there’s really no excuse to continue to defend or deny. it’s just so weird
Hi, thank you for your feedback! It is totally okay to have different perspectives on this. The main point I was trying to make was that Silco was the 'perfect' father for Jinx because there was no one else available at the time. It doesn't mean he was a perfect father by any means, and I do not condone the ways in which he was abusive or manipulative (although these weren't the main points addressed in the video). From an attachment perspective, I believe Powder may have died if Silco didn't save her and become her adoptive parent. I hope this gives you more clarity in terms of where I stand. Sorry for the super late reply! Hope you enjoy the rest of your day. :')
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A very interesting point. Although I would argue that it feels like Silco also didn't fully accept Jinx, because he rejected the part of her that was "weak" and the part that Vi spoke to.
I love Silco-Jinx relationship, because it shows that everyone deserves love, and that parent's love directly influences child's self worth. Vi's approach to Jinx was radical, because she didn't accept the bad parts of her sister, wanted to do nothing with them, and was willing to teach Jinx lessons kind of harshly, in order for Jinx to grow up good. Silco accepted the bad part of Jinx and showed her that there was nothing wrong with who she was. But the best parent for Jinx would probably be someone who could love Jinx the way Silco did and at the same time teach her good morals
I love where you're coming from!! Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and insights!!! And I totally agree haha, Silco did not have the best morals and he also couldn't fully embrace Jinx's weaknesses and vulnerabilities (even though he had good intentions to protect her in that way). I think this is because Silco never accepted his own weaknesses to begin with, which would explain why he would condemn the "weaknesses" in others (Jinx, Vander, etc.). He failed to recognize that these so-called "weaknesses" can actually be strengths. That real strength isn't about overpowering others.
I love Silco and Jinx's relationship not because it's perfect or necessarily "healthy," but because they needed each other (for better or for worse). Silco found his humanity through Jinx. And like you mentioned, Jinx learned to accept the darker parts of herself because of Silco. In terms of parenting, both Silco and Vi had their share of blind spots. Vi wanted to shield Jinx from the darkness and brokenness of their world (and to keep her safe). But what Jinx also needed was Vi's companionship and sacrifice. And Silco met Jinx in the ways that Vi couldn't. Vi couldn't forsake the people she loved, whereas, Silco loved nobody but Jinx. So his sacrifice ultimately led Jinx to believe that "Jinx is perfect and worthy of sacrifice." But, that was also the moment where Powder really "died."
I feel like the most heartbreaking part is that both Vi and Silco tried their best to love Jinx, but they couldn't see that both Powder and Jinx were 'perfect'. 😭
@RainbowWong Yes, they both failed Jinx, because both refused to embrace her fully. Although Silco gave her more than Vi could, which is his unconditional love, so Jinx chose her 'dark side' in the end.
They both needed each other, you're right, but I think their love is actually what led them to their mutual moral downfall. Maybe it would've been better if they never met, honestly. For Silco Jinx became a light of his life, but for Jinx Silco was only a part of what she needed, since he couldn't help her deal with her good side, which is somewhere there still.
I wonder what will happen in S2 to Jinx' character? Will she reconsider her choice to be bad or will she be ruled by hatred, jealousy still? I think it's the second option since she sent a rocket to the parliament, and to Vi she did something irredeemable again. Plus, Vi has Caitlyn at her side, which makes Jinx' hatred for her even deeper. What do you think? And thanks for the video
@@alext-rex5492 I loved when you said, "their love is actually what led them to their mutual moral downfall." Such a tragic but beautiful way to articulate what happened in their relationship. I think you're absolutely right. Silco and Jinx genuinely loved each other but I don't think their love was built on a firm foundation. As in, their love wasn't grounded on "truth." Like, what does it mean to actually love someone? What is true about love? I don't think Silco and Jinx really understood what it meant to truly love. They tried to love each other, but they didn't love each other well.
As for S2, I anticipate that Jinx could become the next villain, like Silco. But I feel like a redemptive arc is also possible for the sake of 'character development.' So maybe Jinx will get darker initially, and then something significant happens in her life that might alter her path in a positive way. Haha I honestly don't know. But I'm excited for sure!!
If you think that Silco didn't accept Jinx's "weak" side as well, I want you to explain the drawings on nearly every square inch of his office, and the mannequins and old connections to her life that litter Jinx's bedroom that Silco is clearly aware of.
There's a difference between a father wanting their child to make a certain choice, and a father "rejecting" the other side of them.
Silco wants Jinx to be strong, but more than this - he truly understands that she *is* strong and wants her to see it for herself.
@ShadowKain666 you didn't see a scene at the river where Silco literally told Jinx that he destroyed his weaker side one day, submerged himself into the water and did the same with Jinx later on? You really didn't catch up the meaning of this scene or it was too hard of a concept?
I'm obsessed with Arcane and I think the relationship between Silco and Jinx is so intresting and one of my favourite father daughter relationships in media.
Totally!! I loved seeing Jinx and Silco's relationship develop throughout Arcane. Their time together is full of love and heartbreak, but it's also what makes their connection unique and beautiful. :') Thank you for stopping by, chloe! ☺
@Rainbow Wong yeah. Your videos are great to watch. I kin jinx and I cried when silco died 😅
@chloe awww thank you so much Chloe!! ❤️❤️ And yeahh, Silco's death broke my heart too 😭
Jinx ended up accepting herself as Jinx when Silco showed that even when killed on accident he doesn't care about dying he cares about Jinx's wellbeing and tells her that she's perfect. It broke Jinx's her heart to hear how through it all he never once treated her like Vi did. And that's why Jinx said it was Vi who made Jinx not Silco or the others when she was at her lowest Vi punched her so hard she started bleeding from her nose and when Vi saw what she did she felt horrible and walked out because she couldn't think straight anymore she lost so much and couldn't process it all she wanted to go back to Jinx to apologize but that's where she got abducted and taken to prison.
Vi's guilt must have eaten her alive all this time. So unfortunate for both sisters.
Silco’s Arc. Master manipulator to doting father. The voice acting was perfect. It made me cry for Silco.❤❤❤
I think one thing that is important to remember, is that the environment that they live in, if you are born into a war, and your parents teach you how to fight and kill, they are not being abusive, they are trying to help you, if you are born into normal modern society and your parents teach you how to kill, then there is sth wrong... it all depends on the situation. We cannot judge people that are pushed to a corner from thw luxury of our own life. Silco tried his best to prepare Jinx for the reality of their environment based on her abilities and personalities as well as his own. So was he a good dad based on OUR standards? Nope! Was he a good dad based on the situation he was given? I think so. He was also talented in being a dad, how he managed to calm down Jinx after her experience to the degree that she would be able to learn and focus so much on her skills... is amazing really.
Im sorry but he still manipulated her. He lied to her when he found out Vi came back and then when Jinx got upset about that he manipulated her saying she only came back for the crystal, that she left her and betrayed her, and he is her only family the only person she can trust. The show also makes it clear that she doesn’t fight because she has to or out of necessity, but because she wants to (mostly because she wants to please Silco)
@@Anonymous-i8y I am personaly not against the "you can only trust me" mentality since they are getting back-stabbed left and right. And I always try to judge the situation by considering the environment they grew and live. What Silco DID wrong is being too afraid to lose her when Vi comes back (Silco has abandonment issue himself) which is understanding, but still wrong in how it affected Jinx. The scene that he is telling her that, is definately the lowest point in their relationship I agree.
I don't agree that they don't need to fight. They do, otherwise their situation will never change.
Was so interesting to me how relatable the Silco became as the series progressed and that the viewer almost doesn't want him to die. Loved your analysis of what made Silco tick.
Aww thank you for such a kind comment!! :') Yuups, Silco is such a well-written character with internal conflicts that we can relate to. A heartbreaking yet beautiful story 😭
I want him to come back in some form D:
The way I see it, if you look at Jinx as a character and look back and try to put together a past for her, Silco was just about the best dad she could've got. Enough space to go wild, enough leeway to run wild, finances, training and a streak for illegal activities. Someone who provided all that and also gave her ample amounts of much needed validation as she grew up into a fine young woman.
He was all she had!! I do believe that Jinx survived because of Silco.
I think it is worth noting that throughout Arcane Silco told Jinx "Jinx is Perfect" but his last words were slightly different. "You're Perfect". I think that had a deeper and more powerful meaning, behind his words. It was like Silco was not saying Jinx is perfect but who She is, His Daughter is Perfect. Find someone that will tell you you're perfect despite your flaws. Now I think Jinx will have less voices in her head from this point on, she is now comfortable enough and reassured that she is Fine how she is.
This was excellent, and I totally agree. Most ppl only see the financial in black and white but his and her characters are much much deeper. It's very touching and tragic but is imo the most heart warming part of the series. The most important part I feel is that Silco gave Jinx validation, he valued her over everything else including his freedom and his nation of Zaun
Yes I feel you!! Jinx and Silco are both tragic, empathetic characters. Empathetic in the sense that we can connect with their suffering personally. I agree with you in that it isn't always about the black and white, and that there is so much more to Silco and Jinx's relationship than "all the bad things they did." I believe that Silco loved Jinx with all his heart...even though his love came from a place of deep brokenness. That's the part I find most tragic and touching. 🥹💔
I also believe that Silco saw in Jinx him self, someone who was abandoned for doing what they thought was right and being punished. Both being left in similar situations, betrayed by the ones they trusted the most, ofc Vi's account she never actually abandoned powder but had a higher priority then her, like her moral duty and a sense of justice. All powder/Jinx ever really wanted was acknowledgement which Silco, coming from a similar background, gave her. It's funny, looking back at the show. Although Jinx and Silco were clearly villains, I almost feel like they weren't the worst, in regards to Piltover and their high and mighty society. So, who was the true villains we gotta ask our selves. Those that faught for a povertous Nation oppressed by middle/higher class citizens and maybe went about in a very violent and destuctive way or, those that seek to better their own city regardless of the rule. After all, Royce attacked Zaun before they did :) Food for thought
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I am a person that thinks Silco and Jinxes relationship wasn’t good. Still I can see the gray area they loved and cared for each other and tried to help each other how they thought was best, but I don’t think their relationship was healthy it was very co dependent (physically and emotionally) Jinx especially didn’t have anyone else in her life that she cared about or who cared about her besides Silco.
Arcane is one of the greatest things in my life.
Yess we love Arcane!!! 🥹❤️❤️❤️
I honestly hated Mylo more than Silco.. I can't stand bullies.. and Silco is a more supportive father than many men can say they are.
I just wanna say that this video deserves much more views.
You are so kind, thank you! ☺️
Silco was a bad guy but a pretty okay dad 🥲
Yeahh he did soo many bad things, but he still managed to capture our hearts. 😭 Silco genuinely loved Jinx, and even tho he wasn't a perfect dad, I think he really did try his best. 🥲
I love arcane! I’m so excited that you’re doing it (:
aww thank you so much my friend!! It's taking me a while but I'm soo happy to know that you love arcane and that you enjoy my videos!! 🥰❤ Truly means the world!!!
Silco and Jinx are the most interesting characters in Arcane. I'm surprised that many seem to miss the nuance and complexity in Silco's character.
Good analysis. One of the few I've seen that treats Silco as a 3-dimensional character. I've seen other reactions that just reduce Silco to an abuser, manipulator or just some 1-dimensional villain.
I was hoping you'd touch on the confrontation between Jinx, Vi, and Silco at the end of the season. In Vi's naive attempt to save Jinx, she inadvertently pushed Jinx off the edge. Everything she was saying was bringing out all of Jinx's demons, and Vi was completely unaware of the harm she was causing. Silco, on the other hand, saw it clearly and made the attempt to shut Vi up, until ultimately pulling a gun on Vi. Jinx picks up on the danger, but it isn't clear how she interpreted it beyond that in the heat of the moment. She fires reflexively and kills Silco in the process.
This whole setup is a psychological mess. You have Vi, who we can consider the most psychologically stable of the 3, but also psychologically inept. She has absolutely no understanding of Jinx's condition, and foolishly attempts to 'fix' Jinx by forcing what she thinks is right. Vi is completely unaware of how destructive she is, which is why Jinx ultimately rejects her. Then, you have Silco, who to a reasonable degree understands Jinx, but not enough to know how to solve the problem properly. Silco, who is also not the most psychologically stable, not to mention harbors anger towards an oppressive world (among other things), is trying to protect his adopted daughter from Vi's barrage of inconsiderate words. His own background makes him potentially as much a loose cannon as Jinx, if not worse. Was it a good idea to pull a gun to Vi's face? Absolutely not. Is it understandable, considering Silco's background, why he may have ended up doing so? Absolutely.
It's sad really. Both Vi and Silco care about and want to help Jinx. Vi is reasonably, mentally healthy, but has absolutely no understanding of Jinx's mental state. Vi is naive at best, destructive to Jinx at worst. Silco is broken and unfit to help Jinx heal, but is probably the only one who has any real understanding of her. Silco, given his background, can only offer Jinx what has worked for him. When Jinx loses her agency, the best Silco can do is take control and try to solve things the way he understands. Both are unable to help Jinx in the end.
If you ask me, between Vi and Silco, Vi is the more dangerous one to Jinx. At least Silco can see Jinx as she is, not as he wants her to be. Regardless of what one thinks of his methods or morals, he does not strip Jinx of her identity or agency, he argues with her as an equal. Vi, on the other hand, is deluded with her idea of Powder and couldn't see beyond that. She tries to force her own ideals on Jinx, ultimately ignoring all of Jinx's feelings and struggles.
It's frightening how there are so many people like Vi in the real world, and I particularly dislike such people.
People consider Silco to be the villain but don't realize how much a hand Vi plays in Jinx's downfall. The title of the last episode is literally 'The Monster You Created', referring to Vi creating Jinx. If anything, Silco may have been the one keeping Jinx afloat. If anyone thinks Silco is a villain, they should consider Vi to be just as much. And if anyone thinks Jinx is a sympathetic character, they should feel the same way about Silco.
I'm somewhat glad Silco died in the end though. His story is fixed and perfect, and it is unlikely it would be ruined in the future.
I love Silco. I have bpd and I relate so much to Jinx, I know Silco is all Jinx needed because he is all I need
I don’t understand why multiple therapists are saying this is a healthy relationship. First of all Jinx has no friends, family (Jinx didn’t know Vi was alive), or relationships outside of Silco witch makes them co dependent on each other. Next Silco manipulates her and uses her “do you remember how she left you who cared for you I am your family everyone else betrays us” not to mention how he uses her in his work and how when he meets Vi again he says how much stronger Jinx is than her. Also the writers intension was to make their relationship feel off like Jinx sitting on Silco’s lap like a child. We’re not even supposed to be rooting for their relationship, Vi is our main protagonist we as the audience are rooting for her to succeed in her goals and her goal is to find powder and latter distroy Silco (also Silco is the antagonist who is ment to stop Vi from achieving her goals) I know they loved and cared for each other but that didn’t make their relationship healthy.
Because it's a war? And a poverty world??? We can't judge them based on our standards... They were the most healthy relationship in the show considering the place they grew up in... Jinx and Silco were always treated as crap by everyone around them... Silco only wanted his home to not be poor anymore, and she only wanted to impress her father... They aren't perfect or good people, but they tried to do the right thing by horrible actions. They are antiheroes...
Everything is fine but silco understands vander's weakness when he talks to his statue
Characters who probably shouldn’t be taking care of children having to basically become a parent is such a fun thing to see/read.
The only other time I’ve seen this is somehow both better and worse: an affably evil scientist/demon of wrath transforms into an octopus and watching over a small girl.
Granted, the girl later goes on to be an assassin and a dictator, but still.
Oh, yeah, she also nukes the world and has to help save it.
What story is this??? It seems so interesting
What story is it?
Awesome analysis!
Silco is like the perfect dad I guess by his own standards. He wants to mold her into a certain shape and he’s taking all the right steps to do so. But good fatherhood tends not to be characterized by your child becoming a mass murderer who can’t connect with other people, including their family (who you actively tried to hide from her through gaslighting and quietly having said family killed).
But at least he succeeded in affirming her… identity and sorta solving her anxious attachment. She ended up kidnapping and killing him after he attempted to murder her sister in front of her whom she had also kidnapped and tried to get to commit murder against someone she schizophrenically hallucinates as an impish monster trying to replace her.
But don’t worry, he’s a great dad actually. If we qualify good fatherhood as simply caring about your child.
I disagree with you completely. Silco understood what Vander did after becoming father to Jinx.
Hi, thank you for your feedback! It is totally okay to have different perspectives on this. The main point I was trying to make was that Silco was the 'perfect' father for Jinx because there was no one else available at the time. It doesn't mean he was a perfect father by any means, and I do not condone the ways in which he was abusive or manipulative (although these weren't the main points addressed in the video). From an attachment perspective, I believe Powder may have died if Silco didn't save her and become her adoptive parent. I hope this gives you more clarity in terms of where I stand.
And yes, I am a licensed therapist practicing in BC, Canada. :) Hope you have a wonderful day!
Silco was the best father for Jinx. Unfortunately what Powder needed was the best father for Powder, not someone who would push her deeper into the well of mental illness until she came out Jinx on the other end.
Powder probably would have been better off as a street urchin hoping to be taken in by a random person.
3:44: i will say silco had that face: how can such a little girl make so much damage = PEFECT WEPON FOR ME !
Wait... a therapist? Like... an official one, with a degree? How old are you, if I may ask?
As for Silco: there is no doubt he loves her, but if he's the "perfect father" for her... is highly doubtful. Only in the context of having a toxic sort of mutual bond, mayhaps. Let's also not forget he lied his azz off and tried to kill her sister, just out of fear he would loose her; but isn't it the duty of a parent to let go at a certain point, instead of trying to control the lives of your children? He was clearly also manipulating her to a high degree. So...she could have fared worse, granted, like with a non-loving and far more abusing father, but she could have fared better as well - like if Vander would still have been alive and taken care of her. Loving someone and being fit to raise someone, are two different things. While you can't have the latter without the former, but vice versa is perfectly possible.
So I don't agree with those that claim Silco doesn't lover her and only manipulates her: he clearly does, BUT he also manipulates her and tries to psychologically restrict her (to him). that's why he's a great villain: he's clearly evil, but he isn't ALL evil. He does fatherly things, true, but he also does things that doesn't benefit the growth of his daughter.
Yes, I'm a therapist with a masters degree in counselling. I've worked with individuals, couples, and families. 😅 I wouldn't say I'm a 'seasoned' therapist though because I'm only in my mid-20's. This channel is my creative outlet and gives me the opportunity to explore my areas of interests. ☺
As for your comment on Silco & Jinx:
I think we can all agree that Silco did not have the best morals and he also couldn't fully embrace Jinx's weaknesses and vulnerabilities (even though he had good intentions to protect her in that way). I think this is because Silco never accepted his own weaknesses to begin with, which would explain why he would condemn the "weaknesses" in others (Jinx, Vander, etc.). He failed to recognize that these so-called "weaknesses" can actually be strengths. That real strength isn't about overpowering others.
I love Silco and Jinx's relationship not because it's perfect or necessarily "healthy," (like what you mentioned about his manipulative nature), but because they needed each other- or better or for worse. Silco found his humanity through Jinx, and Jinx learned to accept the darker parts of herself because of Silco.
In terms of parenting, both Silco and Vi had their share of blind spots. Vi wanted to shield Jinx from the darkness and brokenness of their world (and to keep her safe). But what Jinx also needed was Vi's companionship and sacrifice. And Silco met Jinx in the ways that Vi couldn't. Vi couldn't forsake the people she loved, whereas, Silco loved nobody but Jinx. So his sacrifice ultimately led Jinx to believe that "Jinx is perfect and worthy of sacrifice." But, that was also the moment where Powder really "died."
I feel like the most heartbreaking part is that both Vi and Silco tried their best to love Jinx, but they couldn't see that both Powder and Jinx were 'perfect'. There are no perfect parents, but I personally believe that Silco was "perfect" for Jinx because she had no one else left to raise her. She survived because Silco adopted her. I really feel like he tried his best as a father, but unfortunately he didn't have the tools, resources, and self-awareness to guide Jinx. He was a broken man with a broken past. And he couldn't help Jinx heal from her trauma because Silco never dealt with his own traumas. It's like saying the blind can't lead the blind. Our relationships can only be as "healthy" as we are. Healthy people have healthy relationships. Unfortunately that wasn't the case for Silco and Jinx, but it also doesn't take away our love for them!!
@@therapywithrainbow Just asking because you seemed awfully young. I was thinking between 17-20, which would be too young to have a masters... but well, some people look younger than they are. Will come in handy in ten years. ;-)
@@therapywithrainbow Thanx for the elaborate answer; it's much appreciated.
I think we largely agree with each other, then. I think the point that Silco needed Jinx to regain some of his humanity is more correct than vice versa, though. Jinx found an anchor in Silco, agreed, but only because she didn't have anyone else around. Silco did his best at parenting and being "fatherly", true, but it clearly had also it's toxic side, and one can't really call their relationship "healthy" in any normal sense. she probably would have fared better under Vander, and her trauma's being better taken care off; it's clear she has severe mental problems, and I don't have the impression Silco did much about that.
so, it is, indeed, a mixed bag. They *sort of* were a good match, and at the same time, they weren't. He needed her, and she needed him, and he was manipulative at times, and fatherly at others. I guess, this is what makes it a great show.
It's without a doubt he loved her, and vice versa, so people not even recognizing that, didn't really watch the series well. ;-)
Only, for raising a child well, love is essential, but *not enough*.
Are u really a therapist?! Silco was terrible for her!
I have responded to your comment just now, thank you for your feedback!
i don’t understand why people continue to try to defend his actions or say he “tired his best” when he’s literally a manipulative and abusive groomer 😭 more than that, i don’t understand how therapists continue to miss it. are they even paying attention? you’d think they’d be able to pick up on such obvious and in-your-face abuse 😭. not to mention, the writers or creators confirmed that silco was aware he was manipulating jinx, so there’s really no excuse to continue to defend or deny. it’s just so weird
Hi, thank you for your feedback! It is totally okay to have different perspectives on this. The main point I was trying to make was that Silco was the 'perfect' father for Jinx because there was no one else available at the time. It doesn't mean he was a perfect father by any means, and I do not condone the ways in which he was abusive or manipulative (although these weren't the main points addressed in the video). From an attachment perspective, I believe Powder may have died if Silco didn't save her and become her adoptive parent. I hope this gives you more clarity in terms of where I stand.
Sorry for the super late reply! Hope you enjoy the rest of your day. :')
Bruh how in the world is he a groomer you are super weird if you saw that relationship as sexual or as just him using her