Restoration Druid and Skill Gaps, an Observation
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- A difficulty curve can obviously cause a skill gap. But druid does so in the most peculiar way! The hills and valley's of druid are not a bad design as I've def fallen in love with them! But its difficulty and mastery of play can sneak up on you!
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Some of these guys that play RDruid for like 10 years, they are wild to watch.
One thing I would keep in mind with Wild Growth on Resto druid though is that it is probably your strongest "reactive heal" and I wouldn't recommend using it as a setup spell as it does the majority of it's healing up front and weakens over time. It's an amazing spell especially when buffed with swiftmend and flourish to top up the group and keep them topped off and using it like that is a good way to open up a lot more time for dps. Also trees will cast it as well but won't add any mastery stacks, though they will benefit from the stacks that exist, if you have a good group that doesn't randomly just fall over to a mechanic wild growth and trees alone can just let you pump. My pre setup would be making sure I got mah lifeblooms going, Efflo down, yell at group to stand in it or suffer my wrath (Very important step), a few rejuvs out, ward on the squishiest target, and when the dmg came I would swiftmend WG and treant for their WG and to top anyone who needed off while I then dpsed while they did my dirty work XD. I'm not the best resto in the world but I have played resto for years and the biggest thing is learn to trust your hots will do their job and to know when they might need a little help and that you can honestly only learn from playing the spec.
Also fun thing to note, in lower keys you can stay cat form for a stupid amount of time because treants are castable in cat form and so is adaptive swarm and depending on your gear level those might be enough to keep everyone topped. Even in 20s if the damage is stupid low or you have a crazy CC/kicking group I'll sometimes just focus on dmg and let the bugs and trees work for me.
3k main resto druid here playing since the dawn of time. Completely agree with the points you make. I think one of the hardest thing about mastering the class is understanding how and when the dmg spikes are going to happen and not only by pure attacks, but when people are more likely to miss a mechanic or mess in a way. Ideally you want to be able to do damage even when incoming damage is coming because you pre-hotted the incoming damage.
Also another tip is to play around your perks, don't be afraid to move your lifebloom before the bloom, Use your double lifebloom to apply 3 regrowth with a single cast, Preparing 2 stacks of reforestation before a big dmg spike so you can tree and fast ramp anyone, don't be afraid to use flourish as much as possible not only on spikes.
Another thing that you must take into consideration is the amount of utility the druid has compared with other healer specs. These are mandatory in higher keys so they add to the "bump". knowing when and what to vortex so you don't to heal that much, if something can be roared or typhoned, roots, stampending roar, when to use barkskin or just bearform etc.
All in one great video!
I main resto druid since legion and I think the biggest skill gaps are always disc priests. Yes, there are druid who use mainly regrowth, do 0 dps and run out of mana, but also there are disc priests which heal through pw:shield, flash heal and also deal 0 damage and their atonement healing is like
I love playing Resto Druid, it's the only healer I've ever actually been that interested in. and I do think a big part of the problem of Druid is the skill curve is massive. the basics are simple. apply HoTS, do damage in down time, manage your mana, it doesn't feel that crazy or intimidating. and then the harder things get, the more you have to plan ahead, the more you need to know how to react without panicking, the more you need to know when you form shift, how to perfect your positioning, knowing what spells are coming and when, etc. it's a LOT of fun when things come together but it can either get overwhelming or you'll feel underpowered if you don't adjust to that curve as it goes. really enjoyed how you broke it down precisely!
Dude this video is so spot on its actually insane, initially i learned to heal 20's and it feels super easy now. But im trying to push for 3k and im struggling now, i realise that i need to ramp better, utilise life bloom better, and perfect stuff. Mastery is something that i totally havent thought much about, this video actually taught me a lot man. Great video!
I needed this video 😅
I tried healing a 20 (rise or fall, always mix these two) this week and was not prepared… even got so nervous I ran into the tank when I should run out and things like that.
All this to say; I wasn’t ready for a phase of the boss where everyone took damage and I couldn’t keep the hunter alive which caused me to ‘panic’.
I didn’t touch my Druid this week because of it…
Thanks for the vid!
Guess I’ll go and try again 🙃
For the record we didn’t time the 20 …
That's been my experience with every healer I've learned! Get comfortable -> do a higher key -> get overwhelmed and die -> go again and adjust. Failure is just a step in the learning process :)
Restoration Druid & Disc Priest are the proactive healers. If you look at wow healer guides, those two are the only proactive healers & everyone else is classified as reactive healers. I think disc is the harder of the two proactive healers, but people underestimate the learning curve you described for restoration druid. When I play my reactive healers most notably my restoration shaman & MW, the keys are easy, kind of like cruise control.
As someone who’s played multiple healers over 3.3k I agree with this video completely
One thing ive done since patch 1 of legion is play every hear and resto is by far my fav. The learning curve of druid made the rest of the healers super easy weirdly enough
Oh and overgrowth (the choice node with spring blossoms) was very helpful for inexperienced pugs and guildys that don’t diligently stand in efflorescence.
i play resto druid so i can play a discount feral druid with shorter queues!
Haha smart move.
Resto definitely has the highest skill ceiling. Disc has the highest skill floor... But honestly the skill floor for RDruid is difficult to really evaluate because you have some many tools in your kit that can be used concurrently.
I agree. And not only that but there are those valleys where its kinda chill and you can heal inefficiently but its fine. So the good resto druid is really the one who gets tested. There will be key ranges where its going to be an extreme wild card.
The optimization can get very very intense! Im a fan
Thanks for the video! Can I point out something? I really love my Resto Dudu and it's my main now - I switched over from Holy Priest because I felt more drawn towards the whole Druid Toolkit and the playstyle. While there are some good beginner guides for Resto's, it's really hard to find videos towards more 'advanced' players. I tried to watch POV videos of 3k RIO players, but they usually don't explain and I have to riddle through their UI to understand what they are doing.
I try really hard to be efficient with my heals, be proactive and use the synergies of my HoTs - but I'm starting to hit a wall at +18 keys. Sometimes, somethings spins out of control and the group gets low and I get them barely up, then another player gets low but I pulled many major CDs.. so I struggle hard to get them up, then group AOE hits and I'm out of steam.
I know that I am the issue and I need to get better at my synergies (ramping) and CD/HoTs... but there is nobody explaining me how, besides just: Keep lifebloom on you, Rejuv>Swiftmend blablabla
Maybe you can do a small Resto Dudu Masterclass? Point out some common traps, "good to knows" and maybe some tips and tricks? I'd be forever grateful - love druid, wanna get better
I play it around 3k level, the hardest part to learn was setting up doesn't mean rejuv people, but rather pool clearcasting for the burst. Regrowth with the new 4-set is how you heal allot.
Another thing I think took long to learn is to trust my hots and that rejuv should never be pressed.
If healing becomes difficult, don't run Convoke. Use Tree of Life, it will give you more healing and dps. That + Reforestation gives you so much passive healing that you get time to do cat form shit
I went from Hpally to Rdruid and thats the weirdest part is letting some one hit 30% but they have full hots and trusting they are going to be okay.
Why never use rejuv? It has the fastest cast time due to the talent and its a quick hot that can be applied to many?
I don’t think it’s skill but rather experience gap. The spec itself is not overly complicated unless you make it, but you do need to be on the mechanics and timing down 100% because the healing is over time.
My best change playing resto druid was to learn the dungeons inside and out so I can know when to ramp or have CDs + removing the healing display. Too much hots it spams the screen with healing and is just a distraction from seeing bad
resto druid mantra: plan, then trust the process 😌
Its still hard for me. Hitting 3k I still would second guess myself and then I miss damage. Trust the process! Its so important!
if resto is ur 3rd favorite healer, which are your first 2 and 4th? great vid, my favorite are lightweaver holy priest and pres evoker!
I really needed this after flubbing a 23 galakronds fall. I just was not ready for the damage I felt so bad for the people I invited to my key. Manifested timeways and iridikron both just completely floored me and I really harshly felt that inability to keep ontop of the spike damage happening, especially to squishier players like the hunter and my dumb ass still in here with a cat form interrupt build
You got it spot on when you said it starts hard then it gets easy and then again it gets hard lol
First i was struggling to heal mythic 0 dungeons and then after learning the rotation of healing it became kinda easy for me until mythic 8-9 dungeons and then in mythic 10+ i noticed i gotta do damage as well and use my other forms a lot more and now im just trying to learn this but i guess after the storm is always calmness lol
Started WoW playing as a resto druid way back when in warlords because my friend wanted us to be a solid team. he tanks, i heal. I chose druid because i like the idea that i can be anything i want using just 1 class, dps, tank, heal. Never realized it was difficult. i just...learned through trial and error, with a healthy dose of assholery from my friend who likes to pull entire rooms worth of mobs and expect me to keep him up, the dps, and myself. basically...learn through trauma.
Fast forward to now and i decided i wanted to try other healers. I decided to try holy priest. my brain went blue screen. 😅 it took me a while to realize the holy priest play style. My issue was, "It's that simple? Just spam flash heal and heal with the occasional renew and prayer of mending? NO! I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT!" (i know it's not that simple. i know you spam normal heals to lower the CD of your big heals and make them even bigger heals.)
In any case, just wanted to share. Oh and to say you forgot to mention cenarion ward. really great for emergencies when the tank decides to cosplay as a wet tissue paper (waves at Blood DK) or when the dps gets too hyped up and starts to think they can tank. But overall, yeah. as a resto druid it's all about being prepared and pre planning. also knowing how to rotate your CDs and knowing what HoT to use for what occasion. Oh and also mana management, you need to know when to use enervate or when it's safe to sit and drink on your sippy cup in a dungeon setting. oh and positioning matters too. okay...i'm going to bed now and rethink that choice i made to be healer way back when...
I loved resto druid when I played it but haven't played it at all in DF. I'm planning on getting back into it soon
You are in for a treat!
Now try to heal as resto on fyrrak. You can plan the whole universe but still will be OOM 😂
You take heart of the wild literally to get mana right? for damage?
I’ve been playing resto Druid since TBC. Always loved it. Mythic’s have always been super easy to heal and now with added trees I can stay in cat longer for more dps uptime while still healing.
We are generally “A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes is better than a master of one.”
Just started on a druid healer. Life bloom is better for you on you or better on the tank? I was told to place it on tank.
You run the talent that lets you have 2. And usually one on you and the other on who needs it. 3 stacks of your mastery is a lot of healing
Resto Druid was my first toon back in BC. I have played all of the others along the way, but I always come back to Druid. I agree with everything you said. I always think about the hps in raid compared between Heroic to Mythic. The throughput is higher in mythic because they have more talent / experience to push through. Whereas, the average heroic raid Druid sits at the bottom. I
I just started out resto druid and I’m having a massive confusion with life blooms and Mastery Grace. Is the mastery stacks applies to everyone with Hot?. Ex a dps with regrowrh, reju, efflorescence and life bloom, does that mean every heals to that individual has 5 mastery stacked or to the whole party?
Its only per person. So if you have a lifebloom and a rejuv on someone, they have 4. If I have no HOTS from you, I have 0 stacks. If you wild growth. The someone has 5, and I have 1!
Hi, what did you change in the settings to get out of the bottom of the heal you're doing?
What is your favorite healer if resto is 3? :)
Preservation, full send =D
Quick question on your party frames how do you get the symbol of what spell you have ticking on them to show. I'm using grid 2 and clique and it only shows a timer not an image of the spell. Find it hard to keep track sometimes of what's on them based on a timer vs having the spell icon. Thanks! Also the spec you run for cat weaving is that what you're running most of the time? I notice you don't have cenarion ward on there. You don't ever miss it?
Default UI! I have a whole video on it, but yeah Im not using anything fancy!
@@Bowserthehealer haha wow if I'd only have looked down a bit further I'd have seen that. I gave it a watch very helpful. Great content for healers l picked up resto shaman again last week after watching your stuff. More fun then I remember them being.
good video bro
when do you use tree form?
first season the verdancy talent was the main way to heal, lifebloom accounted for the majority of my healing in keys. seeing people simply ignore it after copying talents trees from wowhead pained be as they struggled to heal easy encounters by spamming rejuvs
i want to be main pres but i cant find a german guide for me.. i did dungeons with my pres ( 20+) but some dungeons are sooo difficult to manage.. like throne, Waycrest Manor, The Everbloom and sometimes Atal'Dazar.. idk what i m doing wrong but i cant sometimes heal that dmg... sometimes its my fault and sometimes its the DPS fault.. like theyre not using anything...but i gived up on pres and now i play dev evoker but my dmg there is weak.. i m so helpless and dumb DXXX
So what are your top recommendations for healers that won't stress beginners out?
Didn't he just say holy priest at the beginning of the video
@@knfbnny So only 1?
@@Xon333 Resto shaman possibly since Mistweaver and Holy Pala require a bit more finesse and melee range.
Well this video , has been very inspirational for me. I dusted my rdruid and I am 130 points
away from KSH. I never play beyond 18s though.
I messed up on Triad bosses in a Waycrest 18,but managed to heal it the second time.
I play disc as well,but I m not really sure which is the hardest.I think it varies
Disc is squishy,rdruid is more tanky and mobile.
Disc has DR tools like double pain suppression and barrier.Rdruid has to heal the damage.
But disc has instant gratification. You apply atonements, you dps, hp bars go instanly up
I would like see some tutorials on how to heal hard bosses
like Deios,Manifest Timeways,Triad,Sol,Protectors
but mostly for the upcoming season as well like
Vexamus
Hackclaw War-Band
Irideus
Neltharus,Uldama bosses
Kyrakka
Raging Tempest
Azureblade
Umbreskul
Somehow I ended up running 4 healing specs for the past couple seasons (rDruid, prevoker, hPriest, rShaman), but I only push up to collect the ports. Not sure if there is some reward at 3K, but I hear people trying for 3K alot and I have just no motivation for it. rDruid shares some similarities with disc/rShaman, it needs the setup for better throughput. I found rDruid less interesting to play with Grove Guardians, just popping a treant out who does the healing for me doesn't feel good to me. It is quite powerful, but not fun or engaging healing gameplay, though it does let you sit in cat form more.
Yeah grove guardians suck. I hate this new playstyle and I miss proper flourish. 😢
Good thing I never go above heroic. I personally feel like above heroic is just doing extra for the challenge and I’ve always been more interested in story. Though I’ve I want challenge I would typically choose battlegrounds pvp instead.
I still can't get pres healing down it just feels like I'm not healing shit
Everything is about combos:
Spot Heal : Echo & Reversion
Group Heal: Temporal Anomoly & Spirit Breath
Single (Massive): Verdent Embrace & Emerald Communion
Group (Massive): Tip the Scales & Spiritbloom
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They were fun to play with! Happy I ran into them
Why u dont damage in cat? This is rly important. Boomkin doenst show good dps.
I said in another comment and I clearly need to update more of my process somewhere. But cat is better! But I don't trust pugs LMAO. So Boomy is a bit safer when you don't trust your teammates. I miss cat every day fam
Back in Wrath, mana was a fake resource, so you just kept everything on cooldown and blanketed the raid on hots. In also pretty sure back then Lifebloom wasn't target capped and stacked three times.
Also rejuve wasn't dogshit in dungeons. You could see it moving someone's health bar.
Warlocks were dot, dot, dance in TBC until the nerf. Druids were hot, hot, prance in wotlk.
ive played rdruid since bfa and ive received quite a few compliments this season. apparently there are a lot of bad rdruids out there. ive got a disc and mistweaver at 3k right now and im convinced that rdruid is the most versatile healer and hands down best pug healer...but only if you know how to play it.
I joined a group where i was flamed for being a druid since they "suck" apparently, the key had not even started yet. I left the group, but yes idd theres a lot of sucky rdruids out there
was picking a druid as my first class a mistake?
Could do 3200 Rio 24/25+ keys in about 2 months. It's not impossible
You need to know the damage dungeon very well. With that, you can heal anything
You can also be kinda inted by the group on heavy AoE. Had a hunter in a fall 27 yesterday not stand in efflo on pulling double drakes and wondering why only he was dying. 😂 People undervalue verdancy and mastery stacks _hard_.
So I healed in Druid from wod through sl. This expac I healed on evoker then pally now mw. Always kept trying Druid but always felt lacking. I watched your latest vid on twitch and all I’m going to say is if you would do a how to heal on Druid you would help so many. I was still in the boat that always played druid by putting eflow down lifebloom blanket rejuve for the increase crit on regrowth and used swiftmend into wild growth. Tried Druid after watching your rotation and I’m back to Druid. So much easier now. You so would help so many with a how to heal.
I agree! Would love to see RUclips content that breaks it down. I always want to blanket rejuv on the party but I guess that isn’t smart.
what is up with your voice? new mic?
Bad restos don’t use wild growth and press flourish once a key 😭
Florish is so busted, and it’s a 1 min! One of the strongest healing buffs in the game and they forget about it T.T
@@Bowserthehealer Flourish got absolutely gutted with the rework and isn't a CD that is able to carry a mechanic on its own. You still play it, but for some things like Throne of the Tides, the top guys even go Verdant Infusion instead. :P
Awesome notes! Whats really funny is you kept referring to resto being basically discipline priest, ive been playing long enough to know that resto came before disc and the change of atonement healing that happened in legion to disc made it similar to resto!
Resto main here, 65% of resto druids are bad, 25% do their best but it's not enough and 10% are great at it
I noticed other resto Druids massively under utilise flourish and innervate.
Why don't you have tranquility on your bars? Am I blind? I heard you say in your review of healers the other day that druids don't have any "oh shit" buttons, and I was wondering if they'd removed or changed it since last I played in legion?
tranquility, which is a talent ability now, is only viable in raids.
Really? It sucks now? Damn. Such an iconic ability. Must be weird trying to panic heal a group without it.@@JulianJuanli
@@ianblackburn75 actually they turned rdruid into a pet class in Season 2. we get a new ability that summons treants that spam heals on party
Panic heal is now Convoke the Spirits, or if 1 is very low Nature's Swiftness > Regrowth > Swiftmend > Regrowth @@ianblackburn75
@@vangueliskwhich has actually been really great to me. I much prefer being able to get hots out, pop a grove guardian and go into cat form for dmg. Then I can keep dosing and pop more grove guards if we need more heals. It’s great, too much fun.
Skill capped 😂😂
Life bloom ur self for more hot tics and the guy who needs solo heal life bloom hot them for faster tics thats it wild growth and efflorescence and let ur group interrupt so ez
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Has any spec had its mastery changed more times than Resto Druid? 😂
Boomie
This would explain why some of the worst healers I've run into in higher keys this expansion have been restoration druids.
It hurts whenever i see resto druids not playing cat above 20 keys..
So I’d love to, I love cat! But with pugs and mistakes they make I’ve been backline. I miss cat, I promise
be efficient and dps in between how hard could it be
Stop, druid is easiest next to shaman
Didn’t watch the video looking comment