Rutherford Gold Foil Experiment - Backstage Science

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  • Опубликовано: 13 апр 2011
  • Ernest Rutherford's famous gold foil experiment involves the scattering of alpha particles as they pass through a thin gold foil.
    It led to a better understanding of the structure of atoms.
    It's also known as the Geiger--Marsden experiment, after Hans Geiger and Ernest Marsden who performed it under Rutherford's supervision.
    Particle physicist Bruce Kennedy explains wit this modern re-creation.
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  • @VincentAcrimony
    @VincentAcrimony 9 лет назад +9824

    That's my father. He was a really intelligent guy and I am still so proud of him.

  • @madsciclare
    @madsciclare 9 лет назад +1395

    It's REALLY cool to be able to see this experiment-I've only seen it in books!
    Thank you so much!

  • @modernblacksmith
    @modernblacksmith 13 лет назад +348

    I was torn in half by this video.....one side loved the cool science of it and the other half was driven insane by that doorbell noise!

  • @Draxis32
    @Draxis32 13 лет назад +155

    I've always been fascinated by this experiment that Rutherford did to prove the atom was not a single blob.
    In my opnion its one of the most revealing experiments in all history of mankind.

  • @purplehayabusa
    @purplehayabusa 13 лет назад +72

    This is the best explanation of the Rutherford Experiment I've ever watched. Very clear and it has a working replica of the experiment.

  • @Shroommduke
    @Shroommduke 9 лет назад +808

    Someone get the door!

  • @fluxcapacitor05
    @fluxcapacitor05 12 лет назад +68

    By far the best explanation of Rutherford's Gold Foil Experiment and Plumb Pudding model that I"VE ever seen...

  • @lomertamahon1
    @lomertamahon1 11 лет назад +139

    the ghost in the atom wants to know if you're home.

  • @AliChi
    @AliChi 11 лет назад +185

    Man, I really want to do this, but I have no gold foil...

  • @milfordvital5254
    @milfordvital5254 9 лет назад +2349

    I'm here because of my assignment

  • @flawns
    @flawns 10 лет назад +461

    I can't focus on what he is saying with that door bell ringing noise

  • @StarFury2
    @StarFury2 11 лет назад +208

    Buy full version today, to remove irritating ringing!!!

  • @ritheshrprabhu8584
    @ritheshrprabhu8584 11 лет назад +8

    thank you . for a reconstruction of the rutherford experiment

  • @So_Sinister
    @So_Sinister 10 лет назад +24

    Thank you!. I finally understand.

  • @anishjaywant
    @anishjaywant 10 лет назад +80

    Does that ringing bell tells us that alpha particle is detected by alpha detector..and yeah those detectors must be present @ angel of 180 Degree too.

  • @dmidc
    @dmidc 11 лет назад +19

    A lot of speaker wire and headphone jacks/plugs today use gold plating/wires as well since it causes the least amount of interference. You could probably get gold the same way from there as well ^.^

  • @TheProCactus
    @TheProCactus 11 лет назад +25

    I dont normaly like dodgy top comments on a good science video.
    But that nearly made me choke on my bong.
    Cheers

  • @vasudev666666
    @vasudev666666 13 лет назад +3

    excellent video, thanks

  • @CoyoteBuddy
    @CoyoteBuddy 13 лет назад +8

    History and practicality together. Great video. Quit worrying about the bell, it's just a BELL!

  • @Jonesv33
    @Jonesv33 10 лет назад +24

    My dog was barking at the door all through this. Good way to link Rutherford's experiment with Cern.

  • @sorrydogz
    @sorrydogz 11 лет назад +124

    12 people obviously had a teacher assign this to be watched

  • @thugricanz
    @thugricanz 10 лет назад +41

    So nobody knew about the atomic nucleus before his experiments? that is amazing to me! It wasn't that long time ago :X

  • @theyouuser
    @theyouuser 11 лет назад +6

    excellent thank you.

  • @LtPinback
    @LtPinback 13 лет назад +4

    @MrTranceNinja No scattering goes on around the target. You move the second detector to get a statistical scatter count for each angle. It always bothers me that they simplify this point in the animations. So alpha particles mostly go in a straight line to the 1st detector and a "small" number scatter in ALL directions from the gold atom encounter. Is that clear.

  • @MrTranceNinja
    @MrTranceNinja 13 лет назад +19

    It seems the detectors are at quite precise angles - is that for a reason? Do all of the electrons hitting or getting deflected by the gold leaf/foil deflect at particular angles, or are the detectors placed in the most likely positions?

  • @supergsx
    @supergsx 13 лет назад +32

    Do they ever take quantum effects into consideration in this particular experiment?

  • @marvincervantes3493
    @marvincervantes3493 10 лет назад +5

    the brass can? does brass behave the same way that Lead did back in Rutherfords day?

  • @NamesDontMatter1992
    @NamesDontMatter1992 10 лет назад +22

    So useful. Its good to know that someone out there knows what he's doing. :-)

  • @Chapterlegend
    @Chapterlegend 10 лет назад +100

    I put on video, walked away heard the bell ring, paused the video. checked who was at the door, walked back pressed play, heard it again paused. this happen one more time. reset, the video read what it said! and :) lol

  • @rahulgautamsharma8056
    @rahulgautamsharma8056 10 лет назад +3

    it helped me so much in my studies......

  • @SchumiUCD
    @SchumiUCD 13 лет назад +2

    @thewindowproject The distribution of particles is proportional to 1/sin^4(O/2)

  • @xDeviLZeee
    @xDeviLZeee 11 лет назад +3

    After every deflection would the nucleus of the Gold foil would it loose energy?

  • @vmelkon
    @vmelkon 12 лет назад +5

    The bell could be outside the jar. I think the digital counters are outside as well.

  • @nicstroud
    @nicstroud 11 лет назад +8

    Excellent explanation and experiment recreation. Subscribed.

  • @Christophe_L
    @Christophe_L 13 лет назад +11

    Awesome channel, Brady! I only found out about it today! I wish you got rid of the cheesy 80's educational video music, though :/

  • @bellinivernon
    @bellinivernon 11 лет назад +3

    Exelente !

  • @twycross3
    @twycross3 13 лет назад +5

    Loved your video!!!!!

  • @TheRaybreaker
    @TheRaybreaker 11 лет назад +4

    wt abot the alpha particle vch mak head to head contact with the nucleus? that part is not mentiond here. any hv nyc n imformative

  • @vk2zay
    @vk2zay 13 лет назад

    Is that belljar under vacuum? The MFP of alphas from Am-241 can't be too long?

  • @MrTranceNinja
    @MrTranceNinja 13 лет назад +4

    @LtPinback Ah right - that makes sense, thanks. Simple diagrams only make things more complicated, it would seem. :P

  • @MultiBrendab
    @MultiBrendab 12 лет назад

    @iiAngelic A negative and negative deflected like a magnet and how he found out I believe was by using a nucleus that was negatively charged so every time a electron would go thru it would bounce back in various directions

  • @SimbaMwendapole
    @SimbaMwendapole 13 лет назад +3

    @flakemusic86 hahahaha, it got me too. I went to the door thinking there was someone!

  • @Chucktage
    @Chucktage 12 лет назад +2

    thanks good video

  • @simons901
    @simons901 10 лет назад +6

    if alpha particles are helium nuclei (lighter than air) surely it makes more sense to place the detector above the alpha decay outlet - also what about the atoms in the air causing interference!

  • @BackstageScience
    @BackstageScience  13 лет назад +23

    @vk2zay it was pumped down yes.

  • @joel7308
    @joel7308 13 лет назад +2

    @iiAngelic this is wat i understand alpha particles r positive so wen they come in contact with the proton very close they deflect back i'm i correct if u get the correct answer tell me pls

  • @kyle3420
    @kyle3420 13 лет назад +1

    @vk2zay The range of alpha particles from Am-241 in air @STP is about 4.13 cm

  • @yashodeepsant2743
    @yashodeepsant2743 11 лет назад +2

    nice science!!

  • @LolxDBart
    @LolxDBart 13 лет назад +1

    the person who disliked thought there was someone at the door and kept pausing the video and running to the door.

  • @TheCRTman
    @TheCRTman 11 лет назад +5

    Nice. :D

  • @theWackedOut19
    @theWackedOut19 12 лет назад +5

    this is reallly cool

  • @wyojeep
    @wyojeep 13 лет назад +3

    Great experiment video with "anybody can understand" illustrations, however the doorbell volume was overwhelming the rest of the audio.

  • @appelelle
    @appelelle 13 лет назад +1

    @zapo147 thank you! :-)

  • @vmelkon
    @vmelkon 12 лет назад +2

    Is there a vacuum in the bell jar?

  • @pooltrader
    @pooltrader 10 лет назад +9

    DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW THE DETECTORS WORK? ARE THEY PHOTODIODES, COVERED BY THIN ALUMINUM MYLAR?

  • @asmathyder
    @asmathyder 13 лет назад +3

    i love that bell sound

  • @Sini444
    @Sini444 10 лет назад +14

    thank u so much....

  • @LOLgamer90
    @LOLgamer90 11 лет назад +3

    Well but the electrons were not spread randomly, as what shrodinger said that the electrons are spread in organised clouds of electrons...

  • @piranha031091
    @piranha031091 13 лет назад +3

    @HAMMERHEARTSSB He also looks like Nicolas Rush, from Stargate Universe!

  • @himasekharvemuri
    @himasekharvemuri 11 лет назад +3

    nice

  • @HarryBrielmann
    @HarryBrielmann 9 лет назад +76

    The gold foil is 1.5 microns thick, and the gold atoms atoms are in the nanometer range... how many layers of gold atoms does the helium nuclei need to avoid to pass through without deflection? Thousands? ....Why is only one gold atom shown in the model? That doesnt look like an accurate model to me. How frequently are the alpha particles being emitted? Does gold foil that thick present an effectively solid wall of gold? If helium nuclei pass through easily, how about helium atoms? How about water? Wouldnt a pin-ball sort of behavior be expected for the alpha particles? Helium is a noble gas, but a helium with a +2 charge would be an incredibly reactive ion, desperately seeking electrons...could it react chemically?? These are the sorts of questions that anyone would wonder about. I do.

  • @SubhamShrivastavaa
    @SubhamShrivastavaa 11 лет назад +4

    cool thank u n nw YOU tube thanxxxx! =D

  • @ArthurViktorHoffmann
    @ArthurViktorHoffmann 12 лет назад +2

    @vmelkon if there is a vacuum in there, then there would be any sound

  • @ze_rubenator
    @ze_rubenator 13 лет назад +4

    Great video, but you should have used some Genesis music =P
    (Mike Rutherford played the bass/guitar in Genesis)

  • @mohitkoli1
    @mohitkoli1 13 лет назад +2

    nyc one..

  • @ActiveStorage
    @ActiveStorage 12 лет назад +3

    how this experiment can show the actual geometry of an atom?! You can only speculate about it.

  • @LtPinback
    @LtPinback 13 лет назад +1

    @LtPinback No. (period) Scattering goes on around the target.

  • @Lavabug
    @Lavabug 13 лет назад +2

    @deanbrickland
    The size of a nucleus is extremely small compared to the entire atom, the probability of a head-on collision is very low.

  • @Fourmyle1
    @Fourmyle1 11 лет назад +3

    Not hard to get. I'd probably cheat and plate some thin copper and then disolve the center :-) . Old electronics have a fair bit of gold plating ( early 70s it could be gold alloy ) and if you just need a strip then drop a wire wrap pin ( old style apx 1 mm by 2 mm ) into some dilute nitric and wait. If you find a Burrows B500 computer to strip, I'd like an invitation to your yacht afterwards :D

  • @JoshMr07
    @JoshMr07 13 лет назад +1

    @ManusCelerDei legend... probably a more correct term

  • @naturfagstoff
    @naturfagstoff 11 лет назад +2

    Easier to make thin enough, even if it is expensive.

  • @MultiBrendab
    @MultiBrendab 12 лет назад +1

    @Mrleopleasure I know I don't get the use of knowing this, except for the use of wanting to make an atomic bomb.

  • @Nenets15
    @Nenets15 9 лет назад +21

    Maybe i sound stupid but.. How can there be particles of a particular charge all disposed in a container?

  • @farefouse
    @farefouse 11 лет назад +2

    what about background radiation

  • @EDude82
    @EDude82 11 лет назад +2

    exactly however i gave it a like as it was interesting

  • @W31RDC4ND3C
    @W31RDC4ND3C 11 лет назад +2

    @Phil Sam

  • @giuseppemarziano2148
    @giuseppemarziano2148 11 лет назад +8

    A-level physics :'(

  • @Mikeyadig1095
    @Mikeyadig1095 12 лет назад +2

    Gotta Love Chemistry

  • @iiAngelic
    @iiAngelic 13 лет назад

    i still don't understand. why do the particles bounce back?

  • @louistournas120
    @louistournas120 10 лет назад +6

    Marvin Cervantes:"the brass can? does brass behave the same way that Lead did back in Rutherfords day?"
    Brass and pretty much most metal will work because it stops alpha particles. The gamma ray will mostly pass through and they will hit the detector head on. All you need to do is remove the gamma ray counts from the counter.

  • @trespire
    @trespire 13 лет назад +1

    @flakemusic86 Maybe it's an alpha particle at the door ! :-/

  • @eshwarramesh6992
    @eshwarramesh6992 11 лет назад +2

    about:cache

  • @suvidani
    @suvidani 11 лет назад +9

    They definitely repeat the experiment without the particle source, then subtract this control from the measured count. This matters only if you want to quantify the result, the phenomena is obvious without this control.

  • @paridhirai4839
    @paridhirai4839 10 лет назад +3

    preety gud one

  • @JackMania77377
    @JackMania77377 12 лет назад +2

    I only study chemistry for the methamphetamine business.

  • @hashmeme
    @hashmeme 10 лет назад +6

    yeah...it wasn't too long ago...only a century back ;)

  • @rjhrjh3
    @rjhrjh3 13 лет назад

    This experiment proves that atoms are mostly empty space. But does this say how big the nuclei are?

  • @nodariel
    @nodariel 13 лет назад

    I thought one of Rutherfords students were responsible for this laborious experiment? Is this true?

  • @airazabu1126
    @airazabu1126 11 лет назад +2

    how can i download it

  • @matthias3895
    @matthias3895 13 лет назад +9

    Awesome experiment! Awful doorbell!

  • @jeebersjumpincryst
    @jeebersjumpincryst 13 лет назад +1

    excellent vid - thanks! @puncheex thumbs up for that :)

  • @michaellovegrove
    @michaellovegrove 12 лет назад +1

    answer your damn door!

  • @prwexler
    @prwexler 12 лет назад +3

    Great presentation. (...but you need to see an American dentist, right away!)

  • @1AaronDanger
    @1AaronDanger 11 лет назад +4

    me like science

  • @zbret
    @zbret 12 лет назад +5

    Would somebody get the door!?

  • @alliestewart6490
    @alliestewart6490 11 лет назад +3

    am i the only one who wanted this guy to say the word "strawberry" the whole time?
    straw-bur-ee

  • @luckyluke1232
    @luckyluke1232 13 лет назад +1

    intesresting

  • @abaabaabaaba4
    @abaabaabaaba4 13 лет назад +2

    I know this has already happened but
    Hydrogen

  • @JTX8000
    @JTX8000 11 лет назад +4

    why gold ?

  • @kontekzt
    @kontekzt 13 лет назад +2

    that was kinda funny, but, please, dont use that doorbell sound again :p