G3 they played well and honestly did everything right to get their botlane ahead. G1 and G2 was a bit of a gap. Sadly, JDG's team fights are on another level, I knew Rogue's 3k gold lead wasn't enough to keep them down.
Rogue got heavily out macro'd and game 3 slipped out of their hands with small mistakes. Especially Malrang dying when drake was 1000 hp and also his missed Q after R on kanavi. Overall they did decent and played the way they were comofortable. Congrats to Larssen btw his game 3 was great
Yep, they got out macro'd but it's not like JDG isn't known for their macro and holy shit, Yagao has been good those last months. Everyone seems to play at their best. But don't give Kanavi Viego and Poppy !
you can tell rge tried their darn hardest so no shame of going down like that, game 3 was probably the closest one, but unfortunate was a 3-0. Better team wins end of the day.
I mean yeah everyone thought RGE had a chance yes but beating them in a bo5? Not a chance. JDG is just LPL's second seed but that literally doesn't matter for LPL anymore because it seems like JDG is the 1st seed and TES was the 2nd seed lol
@@canercelik35 I'm not even from NA 😂😂😂, tell Larssen to largen his champion pool, everyone knows what he's capable by now. JDG even let him play his main Azir twice and look at what happened, Mr.Eu fanboy.
I am so happy for Rogue. They really overcame their "choking" by being the only western team out of groups this hear and they really played amazing this series in my opinion. JDG is just too good though haha. 369 is a different breed
@@angelvhz9134 Even though he missed the 2 Lee Sin q's that would 100% net a kill I am still not sure if they would have beaten JDG. They did get some good picks here and there had decent drake control and vs weaker teams they would have won, but JDG is just waaaaaay too good.
The most crushing part about Rogue's defeat is not going 0-3, it is the fact that they were playing at their absolute best and still get beaten. I hope Rogue's players recover from this fast, cause knowing you give it your all and your competition is still better really makes you doubt yourself. You can see from the players body language after the game, their self believe and confidence in group stage is all gone.
Did they play at their best? How can you, a random stranger on the internet elaborate that? How do you quantifiy "the absolute best"? Because this JDG team looks really beatable and RGE had some really silly mistakes in their gameplay, so... I really do not agree with you. RGE in Week 1 of groups was playing way way better than RGE today.
Everyone talks about how unfair east vs west is. The thing they forget is the work ethic these korean and Chinese players have. Literally a boot camp. Meanwhile I don't get the same vibe from western teams. I'm not saying having a chill team environment is bad, but I feel like that's a huge reason.
By looking at the regular season schedule. The bo1s compared to bo3s will easily explain why western are always losing. I know that the pressure is little compared to the Asian cultures. But hey, this is international stage and if you keep losing and saying we are enjoying the games and don’t care about the result, then better discharge these professional leagues because this is a competition not a simple entertaining board game. Disappointed AF.
you have seen the schedule of T1? there is a video about it, if you think they are fully concentraded 12 hours a day you are stupid lmao, they play like only 2 hours, and they rest the most
I‘m just proud of all Rogue players tbh. I was one of the doubters after the roster changes. Most ppl thought they wouldn‘t even make playoffs. But they ended up winning LEC 3-0 and were the only western team in quarters with a relatively good showing (not getting gigastomped).
This whole series was done at 1:20, when Rogue decided to play this series as worse team who fear to go in and fight. They would always took that 2 vs 2 vs any other eu team... I was so disapointed when i saw that attitude in first game...
@@harrystyles7466 thats true and Larsen probably warned them that Talyah is coming... I am not saying that it was a right play to go in, just that they would do it vs any EU team. And there was lot of this kind of situation in this series when they show more respect that was needed. Just saying that they should play like vs any other team, because they are exeptional players, but I understand that pressure was high...
I'd say the biggest gap east vs west is definitely top/jg. I havent seen western teams beating Eastern teams with top/jg (except the first drx vs rge game)
Game 1 Gragas/Graves vs Renekton/Vi honestly should be a decent 2v2 that's winnable on either side. RGE played to outnumber/bait too hard and got punished by countergank several times. Kanavi just has the game sense to be at the right place along with the confidence to say he'll win every fight and dump every ounce of damage he can in every exchange. Reminds me of Levi's performance from GAM's 1st appearance in Worlds.
The only and the best western team got 3-0ed by a team that later got 3-1ed by t1 who lost to drx in the finals. The gap is massive between east and west.
Why bother having worlds at all honestly. Just LCK/LPL every year for 11 years. Riot should host in KR or China every year. They have the fans and the best teams. Let this esport die it's overdue death in the west
What a fucking stupid take. Why don't you blame the western team for not playing at the same level as the eastern team? I can't believe that somebody will blame the region for playing wayyyyyyyyyy better than those western clown teams.
You can't blame KR or CN players they just worked harder in order to get better. They spent their free time researching on tactics while the west spends it on other leisure activities
agree, adding 4th seed to china and korea basically killed the worlds, now we'll have 7/8 teams from korea + china in QF every year, worlds are so boring to watch nowadays (from the casuals perspective)
@@初心不忘 It's not working harder only, it's money investment, societal pressure, mental pressure... Korea, China etc treat e-sports as national sports whilst most of the west have basketball, football etc as theirs.
I'm from NA and watched group stage in the audience, you wouldn't believe how many people flew in from China to watch the games... i feel like im in Beijing during the games, i hear 50% english 50% chinese in the crowd. And the people who speak english are usually Asian-Americans who also wear chinese team jerseys its crazy, there's a clip here in youtube where the "NA" crowd was cheering for JDG instead of EG lmao. no wonder they held finals in San Francisco where the population is majority Asian
I know which mistake you're talking about but i'm trying to be a better person and not say he was a moving mistake for 3 games. Gapped so hard you'd think it's smurf vs gold.
I mean if he didn't do that mistake they were still 0-2 and could have still gone 0-3 I think it would haunt him if the series was 2-2 or something like that
GG wp by JDG! Especially there top and jg who are insane carry for the team every game, and they are also very good at controlling the map and making space against enemy teams. When it comes to ROG, I think every single player of the team should be proud of being there and having made it out from the group stage. Especially Comp and Trymbi they did really well throughout the tournament. I think the reason they lost was because of the huge Top/jg diff, otherwise they were almost the same in mid and bot and sometimes even better. I think Rog made a mistake not playing for there bot lane so much and making defensive plays for there top plane who already was losing 1v1s. Anyways GG for both teams
I think, Rogue's bot duo Comp/Trymbi can thrive in LPL. They're THAT good. Otherwise, I still feel like Malrang was too pressured to fight those playmaking Chinese junglers. But anyways, they've put up a fight against the best team in China. With some more luck, they could do it. The only problem is they lack competition in Europe, that's why it's so hard for LEC teams to win Worlds.
comp is good but trymbi(at least this game, didnt watch much of him apart from here) missed 3 nami flash qs so id say hes very inconsistent also going solo on top to get caught by 369 in game 1
@@eternal4410 trymbi is best eu support for now and he's really good. First two games were terrible from him tho, its really rare to see him choking like that
Atleast try one split with bo3s. Don't understand why LCS and LEC are so afraid of bo3s. So much time for trashtalk but little to no time for 1/2 extra stage games ?
Because that will "exhaust" their players and it will look like an abuse to their "well-paid" players. Besides, it's just a game for them. When they lose, it's fine. They are willing to make the game boring and make their fans disappointed than make a better system to catch-up with eastern teams.
@@michaelmalunis8258 you are so wrong about this. The first format for EU LCS was bo3. Then, they realized nobody watches it and changed format as well as the name. It has nothing to do with exhausting players or being ok with loses
They played with a lot of stress, Trymbi on Nami played frontline like he was a Rakan several times even trying to bodyblock a Herald charge. Malrang losing the game with the r q misses. There were huge blunders they shouldn't make, overextending knowing Kanabi was there, Vi not running to take her blue before Kanabi arrives to steal. Stress is a huge factor and I guess it will be a good experience for them, they need more BO5 international stage
And another idiot in the comment section. Bo1 is the only format that doesn't fk the viewers experience. Bo1 is by far the superior format. Won't bother to explain further
another worlds where western cant win a single game past group stage. but people r even defending and say how rogue didnt play bad. if fans and especially players r content with this much worlds will never be competitive and will be just lck lpl championship forever. this is supposed to be biggest esports every year.but i see competiveness in only eastern teams and the rest have accepted loss at this point.
Regardless that rogue lost, Laarsen was fucking trying to channel his inner perkz in game 3. Love to see him break out of his choking mentality and ascend as a midlaner
In my opinion, JDGs bot and mid were kinda lacking compared to their usual performance. Rogue played extremely well with their drafts as a western team. I believe if they didn't troll DRAFT they could've made every game much closer. Unfortunately for RGE, JDG read them like an open book the whole series, macro difference
Malrang is in the wrong game, he's building to utilize items so much but it's sad to see it being suboptimal that it gets criticized harshly on - should've tried Dota2
It's always mesmerizing to watch how LPL and LCK teams accrue gold. Like: JDG vs RGE - kills and towers almost even just a bit more farm and plates, JDG 5k ahead; T1 vs RNG: T1 5 kills behind, RNG only 1.5k gold ahead.
How does malrang turn from playing like a beast in groups to absolute dog water. He got so gapped all 3 games it was hard to watch because everyone else tried so hard. He missed Q on lee after ulting TWICE. How?
Not even mad at Rogue, there was just a gap, they couldn't do much more, and they still did a great year. Sure there were very unsual mechanical mistakes, but they did prepare their draft, they tried things, and they held well to some extent. I genuinely feel bad for the players, and for all the hate they will receive. That said, i'm very worried with the state of LoL in the West. NA is going to Valorant and will probably never be a competitive region in LoL, and Europe had reasons to hope until 2019-2020, but what's left now ? I'm afraid the gap has just become too wide, and there is a reason why LFL is even catching up LEC in terms of viewership : people need hope and a good storyline, they cannot just support when they already know the result.
JDG still managed to win this series with a clean 3-0 when Yagao suffered from Covid, this could be even worse for RGE. RGE was lucky to have Larssen hard carrying the team.
What’s with EU vs CN being so bad for EU. It’s like hands diff, region play-style, for whatever reason the CN team always have at least one top 2 solo laner and top 3 JNG. :(
Its not just EU teams man. LPL has won the mijority of tournaments in recent years with Damwon winning worlds once and G2 winning MSI once. Other than that recently it has been LPL only.
DRX TES T1 all beaten this worlds, even if not eliminated. clearly the first seed of the LPL will be incredible but Rogue definitely had a shot in these games.
Why did they let malrang play leesin at game 3 again? I mean missing a point black q at game 2 indicates that he's totally bad at it. He did missed that q again on viego while airborne. Just what in the..
On the one hand, I'm sad to see Rogue go because I really like all the players on the team. Especially Odo On the other hand... THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR FUCKING OVER GAM WITH THE NASUS PICK IN GROUPS
Do people actually think DRX was going to lose to Rogue? DRX was blue side. As well, Rogue lost from top side that led to the snowball. Making up excuses like LEC deluded fans lol.
TBH it doesn't matter if RGE got 1st seed in their groups, they're still gonna get smashed by 2nd seeds from other groups anyway. EDG, DWG, RNG aint messing around
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg i mean is that any excuse to completely troll it? if someone told me before that GAM is going to beat TES im going to say they are having a laugh
@@MrWizardjr9 Where did you get this troll notion? I think the pick is garbage but troll would be like picking Draven/Nautilus and answering with Twitch/Sona. Trymbi interacts with LS. LS is an ex LCK coach/analyst. There is numerous support the pick was not troll. ruclips.net/video/vmnKBz7-ZAs/видео.html - Trymbi explaining the nasus pick ruclips.net/video/y-GqOIx7mCs/видео.html - LS Playing support nasus 6 months ago ruclips.net/video/SHTXLBvd92k/видео.html - LS playing support nasus in a scrim vs T1 academy Why is it troll again? Trymbi interacts with LS. LS thinks it's a good pick. Trymbi has played it in soloq before. That's not troll. I think the pick is bad but this was not a random nasus pick at all intended to troll people.
comp were a monster who can rivalize with the best ADC, i was surpriser! Marlang and larsen werevery good also. Trynbi were good but did mistake. I found odoamne very good on skillshot, 1V1 plays but he couldn't find in general a good position to engage. This Rogue team was really good in general and mechanically but they lack of micro games against them. I think that's just the problem, to know the timing where they can position in group. But i was amazed how good they were playing, thought they were getting destroyed by them! I was happy to see them play. I hope they will stay in the same team the next year, they have the shape of one the strongest team even in korea and china.
I didn't found them unbeatable, they were in terms of mecanics and teamfight as the same level as rogue, but they are a little bit more organised in macro and did the difference with that. Hope RGE recover.
Will there ever be a day where EU and NA have peace we haven’t stood a chance against the east ever since they joined worlds in season 2 and the gap is only getting bigger
@dsadsadsa all the ups and down in MSI and Summer T1 became strong this worlds. Facing RNG in Msi finals is not fair for them. but RNG cant take down T1 easily and bring it to Game 5. but Later we will see the fair match of this Two best rivalry in Worlds history.
Missing just showed how to play Nami to Trymbi. Both done well, but it wasn't enough as support for RGE, too many flash Q missed that could help turn the point
I’m on RGE side, but unfortunately that’s a huge top jngl diff in these 3 games 😢 Just look at farming and stats you’ll get it ( not saying that’s easy but bro you re playing pro btw, it’s your job simply, you have to be good at your job even it’s hard :/ )
Bro you can't beat Jamaicans in 100m ? Just run faster you have to be good at your job even it's hard :/ You can't beat ethiopians during marathon ? Just run fasteeeeer ! There are many reasons why some populations are better than others (culture, economy, physiology, BO3, etc). It's not as simple as "it's your job lol be better"
Don't want to be that guys but this year looks like the worst year for europe since i started watching league .. G2 didn't have that scary confidence they used to have .. Fnatic is lackluster and not dependable since rekkles left ... rogue had a nice run but they never had that edge that rekkles Fnatic and G2 perkz jankos caps had at their peek .. mad lions never stood a chance . europe really needs something different :(
RGE inted their chance of getting into semifinals. Like literally what is playing nasus support into heim against DRX? They definitely have a chance against EDG or RNG, but JDG takes them like a piece of cake. In fact, all the first place teams in the other groups are hella strong. No respect from me
I don't know...I just think that tank should be tank and dmg dealer should be dmg dealer. If as a tank you can have the absolutely most dmg of all..something is wrong. Tank just shouldn't do much dmg.
except the quarterfinal matchups are random and they would have faced jdg sooner or later anyways. also my guess would be they picked the troll champs to try out something while the risk is low. but i agree that nasus support was too much.
First game rogue got outdrafted so hard on top,jg and bot, second game was a bit better but still outdrafted for letting aphelios+lulu open and the third game rogue drafted good but still lost because of few mistakes. I think they had a pretty good chance if they didn't fuck up first 2 drafts.
JDG played insanely badly the first two games for their reputation as favourite team in the tourney. If they do that against an LCK team they will lose. Rogue unfortunately has a great ADC, MID and a decent TOP, but Malrang and Trymbi are really bad players and need to be swapped for better ones if Rogue wants to do better next time.
another failure of a year for EU, idk we shouldn't be satisfied with making out of groups, that at this point in time should be a bare minimum, hopefully the format change that is announced for LEC will make some difference after 2-3 years because EU unlike NA has potential to compete.
I think the west is falling further and further behind the east sadly, as an EU fan. EU doesn’t look that far ahead of NA but hopefully yeah the format change will make them more competitive.
RGE lost simply because of top and jungle gap, mostly jungle. JDG will be destroyed if you shut down 369 and Kanavi, if you don't, you lose. Odoamne is a good player, but 369 is better, same goes for Malrang and Kanavi. It was obvious to me who would win. Congratulations to RGE for the way they played, they gave their all but it is not enough vs much much better players.
Yeah Malrang didnt play well but it wasnt just top and jungle. Larrsen barely roamed or helped the jungle and didnt even get a lead. Kavani could push Malrang from the jungle just because his team helped him.
Games were not even close. And 369 was hard smurfing. Kanavis performance was also brilliant. But overall a huge Team gap especially in teamfight mechanics/decisions. Anyone saying Rogue had a chance is delusional. From here, the Tournament takes a new leap. I hope the Final of this worlds will be absolutly close in Skill and Drafts and an absolut banger.
Top gap, every year Odoamne chokes on worlds. Malrang instead of helping whole team as he usually does was forced to play heavily around topside. Kanavi abused this fact really hard.
Appreciate you adding time to the highlights so we couldn't tell the results
Exactly. Very considerate. :)
You couldnt tell? Still thought 27 mins ment a 3-0
He do it everytime and you guys still comment like this.
But still appreciate it
@@SimpleGamer-zu4mt it’s never too late to express your gratitude!
Rogue didn't even play that bad, it's just a LPL/LCK gap tbh
G3 they played well and honestly did everything right to get their botlane ahead.
G1 and G2 was a bit of a gap.
Sadly, JDG's team fights are on another level, I knew Rogue's 3k gold lead wasn't enough to keep them down.
Lec and Lcs only do bo1 during regular seasons. You should compare the training pressure from lck and lpl and you will see why the gap is so big.
@@kingjaymes5109 bait.
that's absolutely right.
@@kingjaymes5109 Wtf
Rogue got heavily out macro'd and game 3 slipped out of their hands with small mistakes. Especially Malrang dying when drake was 1000 hp and also his missed Q after R on kanavi. Overall they did decent and played the way they were comofortable. Congrats to Larssen btw his game 3 was great
XD
even pro junglers will let themselves die rather than smite early for the health and hope the drag gets bursted faster than the other jg reacts.
@@stephen7587 ofc but it is unlucky that the drake is onlylike 100 or 50 hp too high for it to be executed by smite
True, if LPL mid game is unmatch
Yep, they got out macro'd but it's not like JDG isn't known for their macro and holy shit, Yagao has been good those last months. Everyone seems to play at their best. But don't give Kanavi Viego and Poppy !
you can tell rge tried their darn hardest so no shame of going down like that, game 3 was probably the closest one, but unfortunate was a 3-0. Better team wins end of the day.
thank you for the spoiler
@@N0narne never read comment before watch the video.
Try hard?! Lol bro couldn't even hit a lee sin q 😂 🤣
They didn’t try their hardest when they keep picking the worst jg lee sin
Ok now I ask you again to watch all 3 matches and watch rge support he is the sole reason they lost
Imagine fierce competition and a number of BO5 games held in LPL, it's not weird JDG won this game.
I mean yeah everyone thought RGE had a chance yes but beating them in a bo5? Not a chance. JDG is just LPL's second seed but that literally doesn't matter for LPL anymore because it seems like JDG is the 1st seed and TES was the 2nd seed lol
@@peytonsmith1062 JDG is the first seed, won domestically twice vs TES
@@peytonsmith1062 JDG is the 1st, and TES is the 2nd
I wish that LEC format will change to same as LPL
deam it Nasus Sp
EU and NA just playing to survive while LPL and LCK playing to win.
Lol pls Rog didnt played for survive. u NA Fans stop trying acting like ur same lvl with eu. No one believes that except na's delisional fans.
@@canercelik35 Its insane how racist EU is to NA 😂😂😂
@@canercelik35 I'm not even from NA 😂😂😂, tell Larssen to largen his champion pool, everyone knows what he's capable by now. JDG even let him play his main Azir twice and look at what happened, Mr.Eu fanboy.
@@gjor not a race and it's impossible not to recognize EU as just far more successful internationally
@@canercelik35 lmaooooo what makes u think he's a NA fan? What if he's a Korean fan
I am so happy for Rogue. They really overcame their "choking" by being the only western team out of groups this hear and they really played amazing this series in my opinion. JDG is just too good though haha. 369 is a different breed
Malrang griefed the entire series
@@angelvhz9134 Even though he missed the 2 Lee Sin q's that would 100% net a kill I am still not sure if they would have beaten JDG. They did get some good picks here and there had decent drake control and vs weaker teams they would have won, but JDG is just waaaaaay too good.
Bruh rogue got out because of GAM. Or else it'd have been 8/8 eastern teams in QFs
The most crushing part about Rogue's defeat is not going 0-3, it is the fact that they were playing at their absolute best and still get beaten. I hope Rogue's players recover from this fast, cause knowing you give it your all and your competition is still better really makes you doubt yourself. You can see from the players body language after the game, their self believe and confidence in group stage is all gone.
LPL haven’t lost a single game in a bo3 in 4 years to a western opponent. There was only one outcome
Did they play at their best?
How can you, a random stranger on the internet elaborate that?
How do you quantifiy "the absolute best"?
Because this JDG team looks really beatable and RGE had some really silly mistakes in their gameplay, so...
I really do not agree with you. RGE in Week 1 of groups was playing way way better than RGE today.
sp inted so much. are you sure they played well lol? XD if you say that rogue played their best then they are just bad
@Carpet Dragon don’t forget about that time Team liquid beat IG at MSI.
@@mojin7470 Feel free to disagree, you as another random stranger can feel whatever you want to feel and voice your opinion.
Everyone talks about how unfair east vs west is. The thing they forget is the work ethic these korean and Chinese players have. Literally a boot camp. Meanwhile I don't get the same vibe from western teams. I'm not saying having a chill team environment is bad, but I feel like that's a huge reason.
Yes the glorious hive mind Asia, where human-ants are treated like tools, what a great continent
By looking at the regular season schedule. The bo1s compared to bo3s will easily explain why western are always losing. I know that the pressure is little compared to the Asian cultures. But hey, this is international stage and if you keep losing and saying we are enjoying the games and don’t care about the result, then better discharge these professional leagues because this is a competition not a simple entertaining board game. Disappointed AF.
@@elCorciu nah your just soft and weak minded lmao. Too much privelege and no drive
you have seen the schedule of T1? there is a video about it, if you think they are fully concentraded 12 hours a day you are stupid lmao, they play like only 2 hours, and they rest the most
@@elCorciu better than not winning or succeeding in anything lmao, NA and EU mindset is weak
It's hard to say much about Odo and Malrang after this series. It looked like they were playing against the best Top-Jung duo in the world.
Meh Odo is always like that, he only looks good few times because of mid and jungle
Malrang kinda inted this series.
I‘m just proud of all Rogue players tbh. I was one of the doubters after the roster changes. Most ppl thought they wouldn‘t even make playoffs. But they ended up winning LEC 3-0 and were the only western team in quarters with a relatively good showing (not getting gigastomped).
3:00 Trymbi played so nervous wtf. E-ed himself, Q-ed the air thrice, W to ks, solo died to Gragas. The ult was good though.
Namis Q also provides MS for hit teammates
Huh, E for ms, q for ms, missed q as it's hard to hit and region diff
Why do they never put trymbi on an engage support? His rakan performance was insane and then they just put him on nami for the rest of the tournament
cause engage supports are garbo in the worlds meta, all they play is enchanters.
He just even cant hit nami Q never.. 😞 Rakan or Nautilus could be better for sure. I agree
Cos of meta,rge dont wanna let jdg pick lucian nami.Nami 69 winrate in group stage.but yes Trymbi should pick engage support in game 2.😢
This whole series was done at 1:20, when Rogue decided to play this series as worse team who fear to go in and fight. They would always took that 2 vs 2 vs any other eu team... I was so disapointed when i saw that attitude in first game...
taliah was lvl 6 and in ultimate range. maybe the professional team knows a bit more than you
@@harrystyles7466 thats true and Larsen probably warned them that Talyah is coming... I am not saying that it was a right play to go in, just that they would do it vs any EU team. And there was lot of this kind of situation in this series when they show more respect that was needed. Just saying that they should play like vs any other team, because they are exeptional players, but I understand that pressure was high...
Rogue played quite well I think JDG had better top jgl showing but 0-3 is too harsh.
Thanks to Rogue I was able to sleep early so I wouldn't run late for work the next day.
I'd say the biggest gap east vs west is definitely top/jg. I havent seen western teams beating Eastern teams with top/jg (except the first drx vs rge game)
Game 1 Gragas/Graves vs Renekton/Vi honestly should be a decent 2v2 that's winnable on either side. RGE played to outnumber/bait too hard and got punished by countergank several times. Kanavi just has the game sense to be at the right place along with the confidence to say he'll win every fight and dump every ounce of damage he can in every exchange. Reminds me of Levi's performance from GAM's 1st appearance in Worlds.
did you see trymbi missing flash q with nami 3 times?
They have korean jg so only toplaner missing
The only and the best western team got 3-0ed by a team that later got 3-1ed by t1 who lost to drx in the finals. The gap is massive between east and west.
Why bother having worlds at all honestly. Just LCK/LPL every year for 11 years. Riot should host in KR or China every year. They have the fans and the best teams. Let this esport die it's overdue death in the west
What a fucking stupid take. Why don't you blame the western team for not playing at the same level as the eastern team? I can't believe that somebody will blame the region for playing wayyyyyyyyyy better than those western clown teams.
You can't blame KR or CN players they just worked harder in order to get better. They spent their free time researching on tactics while the west spends it on other leisure activities
agree, adding 4th seed to china and korea basically killed the worlds, now we'll have 7/8 teams from korea + china in QF every year, worlds are so boring to watch nowadays (from the casuals perspective)
@@初心不忘 It's not working harder only, it's money investment, societal pressure, mental pressure... Korea, China etc treat e-sports as national sports whilst most of the west have basketball, football etc as theirs.
I'm from NA and watched group stage in the audience, you wouldn't believe how many people flew in from China to watch the games... i feel like im in Beijing during the games, i hear 50% english 50% chinese in the crowd. And the people who speak english are usually Asian-Americans who also wear chinese team jerseys its crazy, there's a clip here in youtube where the "NA" crowd was cheering for JDG instead of EG lmao. no wonder they held finals in San Francisco where the population is majority Asian
That malrang mistake will haunt him for the rest of his life.
I know which mistake you're talking about but i'm trying to be a better person and not say he was a moving mistake for 3 games. Gapped so hard you'd think it's smurf vs gold.
@@ValsamGoesPro don’t be a good person.
timestamp plz
I mean if he didn't do that mistake they were still 0-2 and could have still gone 0-3 I think it would haunt him if the series was 2-2 or something like that
Lmao fr even gold player can hit lee kick and r. Malrang 130cs down 😂
GG wp by JDG! Especially there top and jg who are insane carry for the team every game, and they are also very good at controlling the map and making space against enemy teams.
When it comes to ROG, I think every single player of the team should be proud of being there and having made it out from the group stage. Especially Comp and Trymbi they did really well throughout the tournament. I think the reason they lost was because of the huge Top/jg diff, otherwise they were almost the same in mid and bot and sometimes even better. I think Rog made a mistake not playing for there bot lane so much and making defensive plays for there top plane who already was losing 1v1s. Anyways GG for both teams
When will you learn that this trick dont work anymore? Go find a life pls
Lee sin q is killing me 😂
oh wait, he missed...
It's supposed to kill kanavi instead it's killing this guy 😂😂😂
Thats not supposed to kill you, you know, cause he missed...
I think, Rogue's bot duo Comp/Trymbi can thrive in LPL. They're THAT good. Otherwise, I still feel like Malrang was too pressured to fight those playmaking Chinese junglers. But anyways, they've put up a fight against the best team in China. With some more luck, they could do it. The only problem is they lack competition in Europe, that's why it's so hard for LEC teams to win Worlds.
comp is good but trymbi(at least this game, didnt watch much of him apart from here) missed 3 nami flash qs so id say hes very inconsistent also going solo on top to get caught by 369 in game 1
@@eternal4410 trymbi is best eu support for now and he's really good. First two games were terrible from him tho, its really rare to see him choking like that
@@mosquidking4297 first 2 games? All 3 games were bad. Kalists literally spammed his ult, just to safe Soraka. So many miss positioms
@@BlooDMuZiK94 agreed. I dont know if its because he played enchanters this match but he did nothing remarkable at all
Atleast try one split with bo3s. Don't understand why LCS and LEC are so afraid of bo3s. So much time for trashtalk but little to no time for 1/2 extra stage games ?
Muh viewership more important than game quality
Because that will "exhaust" their players and it will look like an abuse to their "well-paid" players.
Besides, it's just a game for them. When they lose, it's fine. They are willing to make the game boring and make their fans disappointed than make a better system to catch-up with eastern teams.
@@michaelmalunis8258 you are so wrong about this. The first format for EU LCS was bo3. Then, they realized nobody watches it and changed format as well as the name. It has nothing to do with exhausting players or being ok with loses
I think they had bo3 at 2017, did it make a difference at worlds? Barely.
@@burakalaydn3201 then it's all about money?
They played with a lot of stress, Trymbi on Nami played frontline like he was a Rakan several times even trying to bodyblock a Herald charge.
Malrang losing the game with the r q misses.
There were huge blunders they shouldn't make, overextending knowing Kanabi was there, Vi not running to take her blue before Kanabi arrives to steal.
Stress is a huge factor and I guess it will be a good experience for them, they need more BO5 international stage
The gap betwenn NA/EU to China/Korea is just absurd...i refuse to believe that we will ever see a western team winning worlds again
14:10 how is that champ remotely balanced, every other mid dies there for sure. RGE hit every spell but Sylas is so op he still lives
NA and EU should change their format. Imagine playing BO1 not BO3 for regular season
And another idiot in the comment section. Bo1 is the only format that doesn't fk the viewers experience. Bo1 is by far the superior format. Won't bother to explain further
And if they switch to bo3 that magically fixes all their problems *copium*
RGE speedrunning to airport and helping EUbros fix the sleep schedules. Respect 🙏
yeah, ill be sleeping regularly on the weekend now. thank you Rogue!
NA did the faster speedrun to the airport like every year :`D.
As a salty eu fan finally i can get some sleep
another worlds where western cant win a single game past group stage. but people r even defending and say how rogue didnt play bad. if fans and especially players r content with this much worlds will never be competitive and will be just lck lpl championship forever. this is supposed to be biggest esports every year.but i see competiveness in only eastern teams and the rest have accepted loss at this point.
To be fair JDG will probably shitstomp everybody except GEN
@@radekhruby142 lol no, just wait
@@marcustulliuscicero4386 JDG is the team to beat this tournament.
@@radekhruby142 worst eastern team in the tournament apart from drx
Yeah lets just pretend jdg wont win it all
Regardless that rogue lost,
Laarsen was fucking trying to channel his inner perkz in game 3. Love to see him break out of his choking mentality and ascend as a midlaner
Would have wonnered if they added C9 Rush, he rolled over 369 on all lanes.
it's rushin' time
In my opinion, JDGs bot and mid were kinda lacking compared to their usual performance. Rogue played extremely well with their drafts as a western team. I believe if they didn't troll DRAFT they could've made every game much closer. Unfortunately for RGE, JDG read them like an open book the whole series, macro difference
the description really trick me! I thought there would be 5 games hahaha. Keep it that way so we can't tell how many games they played!
The games were really entertaining, great great performance by both teams
Malrang is in the wrong game, he's building to utilize items so much but it's sad to see it being suboptimal that it gets criticized harshly on - should've tried Dota2
no, hes just missing his qs
Fifth seed from lpl could literally beat the first seed in na/eu lpl/lck gap is really huge
Yep Its official , Worlds is now ASIAN TOURNAMENT.
Well, on the bright side, this year I don't have to waste more time on Worlds.
It's always mesmerizing to watch how LPL and LCK teams accrue gold. Like: JDG vs RGE - kills and towers almost even just a bit more farm and plates, JDG 5k ahead; T1 vs RNG: T1 5 kills behind, RNG only 1.5k gold ahead.
How does malrang turn from playing like a beast in groups to absolute dog water. He got so gapped all 3 games it was hard to watch because everyone else tried so hard. He missed Q on lee after ulting TWICE. How?
Not even mad at Rogue, there was just a gap, they couldn't do much more, and they still did a great year. Sure there were very unsual mechanical mistakes, but they did prepare their draft, they tried things, and they held well to some extent. I genuinely feel bad for the players, and for all the hate they will receive.
That said, i'm very worried with the state of LoL in the West. NA is going to Valorant and will probably never be a competitive region in LoL, and Europe had reasons to hope until 2019-2020, but what's left now ? I'm afraid the gap has just become too wide, and there is a reason why LFL is even catching up LEC in terms of viewership : people need hope and a good storyline, they cannot just support when they already know the result.
LEC pleace try out BO3 in the next season, maybe it will help the players and coaches to play/draft better.
That support of RGE is so aggressive no wonder they got 0-3 he focused more on damaging the enemy lines instead of supporting his carry
1:45 that’s some bronze nami play😢
25.5k with ornn, that's how he carry the game EZ Clap
JDG still managed to win this series with a clean 3-0 when Yagao suffered from Covid, this could be even worse for RGE. RGE was lucky to have Larssen hard carrying the team.
Trymbi is the best support in Diamond League
Gold*
@dsadsadsa idc about you. I can criticize whoever i want. Fan boy
i think rogue played well, but jdg was too strong.
What’s with EU vs CN being so bad for EU. It’s like hands diff, region play-style, for whatever reason the CN team always have at least one top 2 solo laner and top 3 JNG. :(
Its not just EU teams man. LPL has won the mijority of tournaments in recent years with Damwon winning worlds once and G2 winning MSI once. Other than that recently it has been LPL only.
17:05 see that little mistake made by Comp. LPL took an advantage lmao
We did our best, it may was not enough but at least we fought.
GO LEC
Every year They talk so much about EU vs NA but when they play against any east team… they all crumble
DRX TES T1 all beaten this worlds, even if not eliminated.
clearly the first seed of the LPL will be incredible but Rogue definitely had a shot in these games.
@@Groblinmode in bo1s lmao.
Only thing EU and NA are good at lol.
@@kanseidorifto5367 It funny cause they bad at bo1 too. Lck and lpl are still miles ahead of them in bo1.
@@oreoyo5639 Don't kill them like that man XD
your comment makes no sense. We can still enjoy our rivalry even when we are not on the asians level.
That sylas was so broken, idk why they left it open game 2 and 3
14:07 how is it possible to survive this? Is sylas a tank or what lol?
Cause Leblanc threw all her skill and only got auto left? Lee can’t help after he got kicked away. Sylas also heal for more the lower health he is.
Why did they let malrang play leesin at game 3 again? I mean missing a point black q at game 2 indicates that he's totally bad at it. He did missed that q again on viego while airborne. Just what in the..
On the one hand, I'm sad to see Rogue go because I really like all the players on the team. Especially Odo
On the other hand... THATS WHAT YOU GET FOR FUCKING OVER GAM WITH THE NASUS PICK IN GROUPS
Do people actually think DRX was going to lose to Rogue? DRX was blue side. As well, Rogue lost from top side that led to the snowball. Making up excuses like LEC deluded fans lol.
TBH it doesn't matter if RGE got 1st seed in their groups, they're still gonna get smashed by 2nd seeds from other groups anyway. EDG, DWG, RNG aint messing around
@@Gurpreet-sv5zg i mean is that any excuse to completely troll it? if someone told me before that GAM is going to beat TES im going to say they are having a laugh
@@MrWizardjr9 Where did you get this troll notion? I think the pick is garbage but troll would be like picking Draven/Nautilus and answering with Twitch/Sona. Trymbi interacts with LS. LS is an ex LCK coach/analyst. There is numerous support the pick was not troll.
ruclips.net/video/vmnKBz7-ZAs/видео.html
- Trymbi explaining the nasus pick
ruclips.net/video/y-GqOIx7mCs/видео.html
- LS Playing support nasus 6 months ago
ruclips.net/video/SHTXLBvd92k/видео.html
- LS playing support nasus in a scrim vs T1 academy
Why is it troll again? Trymbi interacts with LS. LS thinks it's a good pick. Trymbi has played it in soloq before. That's not troll. I think the pick is bad but this was not a random nasus pick at all intended to troll people.
POV: When you struggle to get to Diamond because of challenger elo boosters only to finally reach Diamond & meet the boosted people in game
Why RGE not pick Nasus support?
comp were a monster who can rivalize with the best ADC, i was surpriser! Marlang and larsen werevery good also. Trynbi were good but did mistake. I found odoamne very good on skillshot, 1V1 plays but he couldn't find in general a good position to engage. This Rogue team was really good in general and mechanically but they lack of micro games against them. I think that's just the problem, to know the timing where they can position in group. But i was amazed how good they were playing, thought they were getting destroyed by them! I was happy to see them play. I hope they will stay in the same team the next year, they have the shape of one the strongest team even in korea and china.
I didn't found them unbeatable, they were in terms of mecanics and teamfight as the same level as rogue, but they are a little bit more organised in macro and did the difference with that. Hope RGE recover.
Will there ever be a day where EU and NA have peace we haven’t stood a chance against the east ever since they joined worlds in season 2 and the gap is only getting bigger
Yeah sure if EU can stop making excuses and just admit we're both trash now end of story.
Welp I guess it's another 3-0 for the eu first seeds in quarters
JDG's true test coming in the form of T1
@dsadsadsa im betting T1 gonna 3-0 RNG or maybe the best is 3-1
@dsadsadsa all the ups and down in MSI and Summer T1 became strong this worlds. Facing RNG in Msi finals is not fair for them. but RNG cant take down T1 easily and bring it to Game 5. but Later we will see the fair match of this Two best rivalry in Worlds history.
@dsadsadsa oh yeah your a T1 fan and you doubt them. what a fan. im giving 3-0 tomorrow for T1. 😊
@dsadsadsa What demon?? lol RNG has only beaten T1 in one BO5 ever
@dsadsadsa RNG have covid debuff. It is 3-0 do T1
Missing just showed how to play Nami to Trymbi. Both done well, but it wasn't enough as support for RGE, too many flash Q missed that could help turn the point
Malran has the worst lee sin omfg. I hope his failed Q’s will haunt him forever
7:00
I’m on RGE side, but unfortunately that’s a huge top jngl diff in these 3 games 😢
Just look at farming and stats you’ll get it
( not saying that’s easy but bro you re playing pro btw, it’s your job simply, you have to be good at your job even it’s hard :/ )
Bro you can't beat Jamaicans in 100m ? Just run faster you have to be good at your job even it's hard :/ You can't beat ethiopians during marathon ? Just run fasteeeeer !
There are many reasons why some populations are better than others (culture, economy, physiology, BO3, etc). It's not as simple as "it's your job lol be better"
They don't farm poorly because they are bad at farming, they farm poorly because their opponents are better laners and know how to deny them farm.
Don't want to be that guys but this year looks like the worst year for europe since i started watching league .. G2 didn't have that scary confidence they used to have .. Fnatic is lackluster and not dependable since rekkles left ... rogue had a nice run but they never had that edge that rekkles Fnatic and G2 perkz jankos caps had at their peek .. mad lions never stood a chance . europe really needs something different :(
Regardless the result is predictable, the leesin misplay is ridiculous. And you get paid as a pro , that kick and Q combo should be your basic skill
This actually looks like normal ranked games
Rouge picked Nasus sp and 0-5 for rouge :))
RGE inted their chance of getting into semifinals. Like literally what is playing nasus support into heim against DRX? They definitely have a chance against EDG or RNG, but JDG takes them like a piece of cake. In fact, all the first place teams in the other groups are hella strong. No respect from me
why not play nasus ? =))
worried for LCK. this JDG is hella strong
I don't know...I just think that tank should be tank and dmg dealer should be dmg dealer. If as a tank you can have the absolutely most dmg of all..something is wrong. Tank just shouldn't do much dmg.
after this match, please, for god's sake, don't pick Lucian nami combo more if you are gonna lose. it is so frustrated to look at it.
Malrang builds are always interesting
malware was wintrading this time hes undercover china
Yeha this was build called „walking ward”
Oh yeah, this is the price for trolling with Nasus sp and get the second seed.
except the quarterfinal matchups are random and they would have faced jdg sooner or later anyways.
also my guess would be they picked the troll champs to try out something while the risk is low. but i agree that nasus support was too much.
Why they not ban sylas.
First game rogue got outdrafted so hard on top,jg and bot, second game was a bit better but still outdrafted for letting aphelios+lulu open and the third game rogue drafted good but still lost because of few mistakes. I think they had a pretty good chance if they didn't fuck up first 2 drafts.
Stay free eu. Let’s be real jdg was just playing with their food. There were no real threat of losing the matches.
No Nasus support? :(
Top and jungle difference, it must be heartbreaking to do your best while your teammates are playing so lousily.
malrang wintrade, theres no way he plays like this
His first game with Vi was disgusting honestly,hard to watch
Wheres the guy that said rge vs edg in the finals
JDG played insanely badly the first two games for their reputation as favourite team in the tourney. If they do that against an LCK team they will lose. Rogue unfortunately has a great ADC, MID and a decent TOP, but Malrang and Trymbi are really bad players and need to be swapped for better ones if Rogue wants to do better next time.
What do you mean Odoamne was absolute dogshit this series. I don't see Odo gapping or surviving against any good LCK/LPL top laner.
Still he is the best western top
Where is the secret weapon of RGE? My Supporter - Nasus
Trymbi trolled this series hard
The American shoutcasters are the best!
not gonna lie the audiences in the interview section is awefully disturbing
im not surprised with the outcome.. better luck next year, i guess?
Rogue's team comps never make any sense
Yeah, really godo drafts by rouge, trying to skillcheck jdg really smart from them
another failure of a year for EU, idk we shouldn't be satisfied with making out of groups, that at this point in time should be a bare minimum, hopefully the format change that is announced for LEC will make some difference after 2-3 years because EU unlike NA has potential to compete.
I think the west is falling further and further behind the east sadly, as an EU fan. EU doesn’t look that far ahead of NA but hopefully yeah the format change will make them more competitive.
Jdg:"now do you regret trolling after guaranteed yourself top 2 in groups rge?"😈
Nobody cares if they lose in quarters or semi. If they can’t beat jdg they won’t win worlds that’s all that matters
RGE lost simply because of top and jungle gap, mostly jungle. JDG will be destroyed if you shut down 369 and Kanavi, if you don't, you lose. Odoamne is a good player, but 369 is better, same goes for Malrang and Kanavi. It was obvious to me who would win. Congratulations to RGE for the way they played, they gave their all but it is not enough vs much much better players.
Yeah Malrang didnt play well but it wasnt just top and jungle. Larrsen barely roamed or helped the jungle and didnt even get a lead. Kavani could push Malrang from the jungle just because his team helped him.
What do I say to increase my social credit score?
An NA team could help taken down JDG. But nice try, Europe 😆
Games were not even close. And 369 was hard smurfing. Kanavis performance was also brilliant. But overall a huge Team gap especially in teamfight mechanics/decisions. Anyone saying Rogue had a chance is delusional. From here, the Tournament takes a new leap. I hope the Final of this worlds will be absolutly close in Skill and Drafts and an absolut banger.
They literraly let azir and Nami Lucian open and still they get stomped so hard
Top gap, every year Odoamne chokes on worlds. Malrang instead of helping whole team as he usually does was forced to play heavily around topside. Kanavi abused this fact really hard.