Additional Information & Updates: 1. Lithium Battery Life - it’s been a month of daily use (2 drinks) and the Lithium has lost just one dot of battery. Even with heavier use you’re looking at recharging around once a month. Think about that in the context of a mobile phone battery, it’s charged everyday or sometimes multiple times a day and has a lifespan of around 3 - 4 years. So theoretically the battery in the Lithium should last 30 times longer that! This may not be a super accurate assumption but even if it’s 25% true you don’t need to worry about the batteries needing replacement for a very long time.
Sounds like you are selling something. Comparing it to a phone battery is a very bold claim to say the least. What matters are the available mAh of the battery and the current that the nano foamer draws and is recharged with, next to the exact lithium type and quality.
@@Theplebs we have no reason to sell this. We make nothing from it, not even from affiliate links. Also the last line of the comment clearly says that the comparison is not super accurate but if even a fraction of that were true then you don’t need to worry about your batteries. And yes this all heavily depends on the quality of the battery and one can only hope that it is good :)
@@aramse No problem, I appreciate your presentation! Yet, why not offer the capacity info: it's 1200 mAh @ 3,7 V. The higher voltage explains the higher rpm. However, one could use rechargeable lithium AA-size batteries in the normal nano foamer that cost around 15 Euros and have stable 3 V with 2200 mAh.
this device sounds really cool. one upgrade that could be done is to have the whole head as a single metal piece (impeler+screen), since it is attached with a screw mount. in my experience, if the item has an internal battery the company should provide access to replacements and the device should be easily reparable. If none of this is done, than I stick with the AA/AAA batteries. great video once again. cheers
Got the lithium model for my birthday and it's way better than the gen 1. I actually prefer a normal milk frother over the gen 1 mainly for rpm. I think this is due to the fact that I froth just over a cup of milk every morning. So the gen 1 just didn't cut it. But the new lithium model fixes all that. An unlike a normal milk frother it's way more consistent. Love it.
It’s good they listen to us customers I wasn’t to happy with the original, mine was extremely hard to push and the holder broke and suffered all the issues in your original review, glad they fixed it. I’ll get the Lithium version as not having to worry about rechargeable batteries and keeping them fully charged is just a massive plus.
It’s 4000 rpms for lithium model, not 14000. V2 is 3000 so lithium is 33% faster, not 300%. Otherwise nice review. I strongly suggest to buy lithium version and forget V2. In my opinion this should not even exist and is quite useless. At first I’ve bought V2 and battery drain was huge. Also speed was very unstable, especially with NiMH batteries. Probably with 1.5V li-on batteries it would work better but extra speed of lithium version is worth every penny. Imo it makes no sense to buy battery version. The device will break sooner before the battery needs a replacement. Shelf time of lion batteries are 5 - 10 years and because this is charged every couple of weeks battery can last very long time.
heating is the main problem of the workflow. do you use subminimal's pitcher directly on an induction stove to heat the milk? they claim it is induction compatible but there is no induction stove with such small circles. so you either have to heat milk in a separate pot then transfer to the pitcher or heat the pitcher submerged in another pot of water. the only other options are getting one of those induction plates like from bialetti that have safety concerns or using a microwave.
I like the appearance and this version seems designed much better (v.3 may be perfect). They need to add 1-2 additional whisks (one for eggs) to screw on to the rod end. I use an Amazon-acquired mixer that includes three different types.
That was a super comprehensive review with some excellent detail for how to get a good foam! I just purchased the lithium version, so it hasn’t arrived yet, but now I’m extra excited to give it a try. 😊
I'm sold on that lithium model. I like my original but it is way too slow. As a result I more often than not reach for my whisk type milk frother in the morning. I only go for the nano foamer if I need that micro foam for latte art.
I also used to use the V1 and then switched to new lithium version. I agree with everything you said, it's a much better experience. And while it is quite a bit more expensive, especially in comparison to other milk frothers, spending those extra 20 just saves you so much frustration, even if you already have rechargeable batteries, I would still recommend the lithium version. The only complaint I have is that the quality of the milk foam simply isnt the same you get with a proper steam wand. It looks good, it pours well, but the structural integrity is lower und the mouthfeel is also not quite there. But that's fine. In combination with the induction Brikka and my trusty Kingrinder K6, this is such a great setup for traveling.
Loved the v1 and got 1.5 years out of it, three coffees a day. Got the lithium and really looking forward to doing 400ml of milk for two drinks at the same time! Glad to hear you think the milk glides better, some friends and I had started to add a small percentage of water to the milk to mimic the water that a steam wand adds to get it behaving more similarly.
Maybe you are missing that sealed lithiums can last longer, but typically, 2 or3 years, then thrown away due to dead lithium, OR a replaceable battery unit, that does NOT make the unit useless, and you can use the batteries for other things. Also, the batteries lithium can be had for $20
Very complete and clear review ! 👍🏼 I was particularly interested by the battery difference (especially in the long run), and my concern has been fully cleared. Thank you so much !
Regarding batteries: fortunately there are very performant rechargable batteries on the market nowadays. I don't mean high capacity NiMh ones, which have a lower voltage by the way (1.2 Volts). I mean true Li-Ion USB rechargeable AA batteries. There are a bit expensive, but they are totally worth it for a number of applications. They hold power up to the last hours of use, while the more usual NiMh rechargeables tend to lose their power with use time. I use Li-Ion AA rechargeables from EBL and Baseus (more affordable). But the availability of the brands might depend on where you live. These batteries have a hidden led under the plus terminal, so when you recharge them, the led changes status (so you know if it's fully charged or not). Also, this is a much more enviromental friendly solution, think of the many alkaline batteries you can replace.
As you recharge the lithium battery over time the battery capacity will degrade, and with it- useable voltage. Not being able to replace the battery’s would end up being a big downside of it. Same reason I wouldn’t use rechargeable batteries in the V2.
Came to the comments to say this might be an issue depending on how replaceable they made the lithium battery. Although, I don't see the issue with rechargeable batteries in the v2. Sure, they'll loose capacity eventually, but it's still cheaper to replace them when they don't have enough capacity than if you'd bought disposables the whole time.
Appreciate the straightforward review and the tips! I just came across this device and have been wondering if it actually works. Thanks to your review I'm going to give it a go.
Stick your finger in the milk and just as it gets a bit too uncomfortable to keep it there for more than a couple of secs, you're at roughly the right temperature. Make sure your finger is clean. :) Or you could get a simple milk thermometer.
I heat mine in the microwave. Microwaves vary, so heat it up a little bit at a time until you find how long to set it for to get to 150F but no hotter than 160F. You will need to have a thermometer of course. I heat my milk in the microwave while I pull my coffee shot so I don't have to wait.
Are the lithium batteries replaceable if not just more land fill. Very dis satisfied with the first one only lasted a couple of months before impeller split
They could've just made a version with a replaceable 18650/20700 lithium battery instead of a built-in one/AA battery option instead the device is doomed to die a forever death like earbuds. This solution could give them even more sales and more brand recognition had they done this for their customers in the market. Great review btw, very informative.
So thorough. Thankyou. Sub'd. I agree with Renato Severgnani (below). The impeller and screen ought to be one piece. Bette yet, make a set. One for fine and one for super fine. That said, it seems that this gadget has progressed to the point where I'd get one for my occasional milk drink.
I see demos with foaming wands that show a lot more milk than I would use for a cappuccino. I probably use only 2 to 2 and a half ounces of milk. Is that enough milk for the NanoFoamer to work or do I need at least 4 -6 ounces of milk?
Love your videos, I was wondering if you have an online link to those double walled glasses? I've been searching for some nice ones and these looked like the nicest ones.
Great review, couldn't agree more! (Although my V1 screens are solid) The slow speed on the lithium is nice in small pitchers with tiny amounts of milk. 😉
Don't bother with V1, V2 or lithium. NanoFoamer PRO is coming out. ruclips.net/video/SGHeboqpjnY/видео.html I personally use my old V1. I made the mistake by going with V2 non-lithium and the batteries don't last or I just have a defective unit. I don't know. My V1 works fine and I use it until I get the PRO.
@@x2100V2 aims for portability so pro can’t compete in this area and no doubt this is the best portable foamer for traveling out there. In any case lithium is the only way to go.
I have an older all-metal milk brother. It works perfectly to foam milk and there's no plastic bits submerged in hot milk. I fail to see how the Nanofoamer is better but I'm open to explanations.
If I’m not mistaken this is basically like a French press right? If so then yeah the only difference is workflow and portability. We just think the nanofoamer gives you more control, is easier to clean and easier to travel with.
Hi sir. Are their any health issues with plastic blades being used in hot milk as opposed to using stainless steel frother wisks in other frother wands?
The biggest weakness of the Nanofoamer is that it doesn't heat up the milk. If you don't need portability, spend a similar amount of money on an electric steamer like a Salter EK3131 that uses an 870W heating element and a 240 ml boiler. Just ignore its other coffee-related claims. It's only useful for streaming milk.
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Additional Information & Updates:
1. Lithium Battery Life - it’s been a month of daily use (2 drinks) and the Lithium has lost just one dot of battery. Even with heavier use you’re looking at recharging around once a month. Think about that in the context of a mobile phone battery, it’s charged everyday or sometimes multiple times a day and has a lifespan of around 3 - 4 years. So theoretically the battery in the Lithium should last 30 times longer that! This may not be a super accurate assumption but even if it’s 25% true you don’t need to worry about the batteries needing replacement for a very long time.
Sounds like you are selling something. Comparing it to a phone battery is a very bold claim to say the least. What matters are the available mAh of the battery and the current that the nano foamer draws and is recharged with, next to the exact lithium type and quality.
@@Theplebs we have no reason to sell this. We make nothing from it, not even from affiliate links. Also the last line of the comment clearly says that the comparison is not super accurate but if even a fraction of that were true then you don’t need to worry about your batteries. And yes this all heavily depends on the quality of the battery and one can only hope that it is good :)
@@aramse No problem, I appreciate your presentation! Yet, why not offer the capacity info: it's 1200 mAh @ 3,7 V. The higher voltage explains the higher rpm. However, one could use rechargeable lithium AA-size batteries in the normal nano foamer that cost around 15 Euros and have stable 3 V with 2200 mAh.
@@Theplebs according to subminimal themselves on their youtube channel comments the rechargeable AA battery can only reach a max 2.7V.
@@Raditram which is true for NiMH, but not for lithium rechargeables.
Loving your videos, please keep up the good work!
this device sounds really cool.
one upgrade that could be done is to have the whole head as a single metal piece (impeler+screen), since it is attached with a screw mount.
in my experience, if the item has an internal battery the company should provide access to replacements and the device should be easily reparable. If none of this is done, than I stick with the AA/AAA batteries.
great video once again.
cheers
Got the lithium model for my birthday and it's way better than the gen 1. I actually prefer a normal milk frother over the gen 1 mainly for rpm. I think this is due to the fact that I froth just over a cup of milk every morning. So the gen 1 just didn't cut it. But the new lithium model fixes all that. An unlike a normal milk frother it's way more consistent. Love it.
It’s good they listen to us customers I wasn’t to happy with the original, mine was extremely hard to push and the holder broke and suffered all the issues in your original review, glad they fixed it. I’ll get the Lithium version as not having to worry about rechargeable batteries and keeping them fully charged is just a massive plus.
You have the most detailed reviews, thx for that. Short and clearly to watch
It’s 4000 rpms for lithium model, not 14000. V2 is 3000 so lithium is 33% faster, not 300%. Otherwise nice review. I strongly suggest to buy lithium version and forget V2. In my opinion this should not even exist and is quite useless. At first I’ve bought V2 and battery drain was huge. Also speed was very unstable, especially with NiMH batteries. Probably with 1.5V li-on batteries it would work better but extra speed of lithium version is worth every penny. Imo it makes no sense to buy battery version. The device will break sooner before the battery needs a replacement. Shelf time of lion batteries are 5 - 10 years and because this is charged every couple of weeks battery can last very long time.
heating is the main problem of the workflow. do you use subminimal's pitcher directly on an induction stove to heat the milk? they claim it is induction compatible but there is no induction stove with such small circles. so you either have to heat milk in a separate pot then transfer to the pitcher or heat the pitcher submerged in another pot of water. the only other options are getting one of those induction plates like from bialetti that have safety concerns or using a microwave.
I don't see a similar comment up top so I'll just say: great video! Thorough and concise at the same time.
I like the appearance and this version seems designed much better (v.3 may be perfect). They need to add 1-2 additional whisks (one for eggs) to screw on to the rod end. I use an Amazon-acquired mixer that includes three different types.
That was a super comprehensive review with some excellent detail for how to get a good foam! I just purchased the lithium version, so it hasn’t arrived yet, but now I’m extra excited to give it a try. 😊
I'm sold on that lithium model. I like my original but it is way too slow. As a result I more often than not reach for my whisk type milk frother in the morning. I only go for the nano foamer if I need that micro foam for latte art.
Nice aramse light!! Looks so so good
I also used to use the V1 and then switched to new lithium version. I agree with everything you said, it's a much better experience. And while it is quite a bit more expensive, especially in comparison to other milk frothers, spending those extra 20 just saves you so much frustration, even if you already have rechargeable batteries, I would still recommend the lithium version.
The only complaint I have is that the quality of the milk foam simply isnt the same you get with a proper steam wand. It looks good, it pours well, but the structural integrity is lower und the mouthfeel is also not quite there. But that's fine. In combination with the induction Brikka and my trusty Kingrinder K6, this is such a great setup for traveling.
Great review! Right amount of info regarding technicalities, practicalities, and humour :) This was my first watch and I’ll subscribe for more! Thanks
Yes, I was hoping for this!
Loved the v1 and got 1.5 years out of it, three coffees a day. Got the lithium and really looking forward to doing 400ml of milk for two drinks at the same time! Glad to hear you think the milk glides better, some friends and I had started to add a small percentage of water to the milk to mimic the water that a steam wand adds to get it behaving more similarly.
Maybe you are missing that sealed lithiums can last longer, but typically, 2 or3 years, then thrown away due to dead lithium, OR a replaceable battery unit, that does NOT make the unit useless, and you can use the batteries for other things. Also, the batteries lithium can be had for $20
Very complete and clear review ! 👍🏼 I was particularly interested by the battery difference (especially in the long run), and my concern has been fully cleared. Thank you so much !
Nice, detailed review from a user's pov. Thank you. Waiting for the lithium version to be restocked now.
Regarding batteries: fortunately there are very performant rechargable batteries on the market nowadays. I don't mean high capacity NiMh ones, which have a lower voltage by the way (1.2 Volts). I mean true Li-Ion USB rechargeable AA batteries. There are a bit expensive, but they are totally worth it for a number of applications. They hold power up to the last hours of use, while the more usual NiMh rechargeables tend to lose their power with use time. I use Li-Ion AA rechargeables from EBL and Baseus (more affordable). But the availability of the brands might depend on where you live. These batteries have a hidden led under the plus terminal, so when you recharge them, the led changes status (so you know if it's fully charged or not). Also, this is a much more enviromental friendly solution, think of the many alkaline batteries you can replace.
Love how much your eyes lit up in the beginning 😆
Agree, the impeller and screen should have been made of metal to begin with.
As you recharge the lithium battery over time the battery capacity will degrade, and with it- useable voltage. Not being able to replace the battery’s would end up being a big downside of it.
Same reason I wouldn’t use rechargeable batteries in the V2.
Came to the comments to say this might be an issue depending on how replaceable they made the lithium battery.
Although, I don't see the issue with rechargeable batteries in the v2. Sure, they'll loose capacity eventually, but it's still cheaper to replace them when they don't have enough capacity than if you'd bought disposables the whole time.
Great review! Open, honest and informative! Well done!
Got batteries and hardly drink cappuccinos. I'll mostly use it to mix bulletproof coffee.
Thanks for the review
Very cool and thorough review! Thanks a lot!
I’m 10 seconds in and your facial expressions cracked me up. Now I have to keep watching. 🤣
AA Battery model is good when using it as an occasional travel device - where lithium battery wont last a life time the AA model will.
Appreciate the straightforward review and the tips! I just came across this device and have been wondering if it actually works. Thanks to your review I'm going to give it a go.
Looks awesome! But my biggest problem is still heating milk properly....
Stick your finger in the milk and just as it gets a bit too uncomfortable to keep it there for more than a couple of secs, you're at roughly the right temperature. Make sure your finger is clean. :) Or you could get a simple milk thermometer.
Which is best way to heat the milk? Microwave?
@@aspiringistari we either use a gas stove or an induction one. Get the milk to around 65C and then texture.
I heat mine in the microwave. Microwaves vary, so heat it up a little bit at a time until you find how long to set it for to get to 150F but no hotter than 160F. You will need to have a thermometer of course. I heat my milk in the microwave while I pull my coffee shot so I don't have to wait.
Where you get the cups? Looks awesome
Are the lithium batteries replaceable if not just more land fill. Very dis satisfied with the first one only lasted a couple of months before impeller split
Hi thanks for the review! Can you tell me whether the lithium battery is user replaceable? Thanks 🙏
They could've just made a version with a replaceable 18650/20700 lithium battery instead of a built-in one/AA battery option instead the device is doomed to die a forever death like earbuds. This solution could give them even more sales and more brand recognition had they done this for their customers in the market. Great review btw, very informative.
So thorough. Thankyou. Sub'd.
I agree with Renato Severgnani (below). The impeller and screen ought to be one piece. Bette yet, make a set. One for fine and one for super fine.
That said, it seems that this gadget has progressed to the point where I'd get one for my occasional milk drink.
thanks for the sharing.. i have skipped the v1 since first version is too easy to break.. looking forward to get newer version now 😁
any updates on this coming?
I see demos with foaming wands that show a lot more milk than I would use for a cappuccino. I probably use only 2 to 2 and a half ounces of milk. Is that enough milk for the NanoFoamer to work or do I need at least 4 -6 ounces of milk?
What glass mug are you using? Really like its shape.
Would it work for making egg foam?
Love your videos, I was wondering if you have an online link to those double walled glasses?
I've been searching for some nice ones and these looked like the nicest ones.
These are the Kruve Imagine cups.
These are the Kruve Imagine cups.
Frm where do we get the V2 Lithium in India?
Nice review very detailed.
best review nanofoamer so far
Should I charge my V2 Lithium NanoFoamer first when just got it? or should I use it straight away? Please help me. Thank so much.
Do you heat the milk before?
Yes you do. Sorry we didn’t make that clearer.
Great review, couldn't agree more! (Although my V1 screens are solid) The slow speed on the lithium is nice in small pitchers with tiny amounts of milk. 😉
This is good to know for macchiato fans. 👊
Imagine how good the V3 will be. Or, even better, it will be as good as the V2 but cheaper.
Or the V4 🙂
I’m waiting for the v64747253.
hi will you review NanoFoamer pro?
Absolutely. Intensive testing of the pro is currently in progress :)
@@aramse can’t wait!!
Finally which one is better ?
V1 or v2 or lithium ? Cz i cant take the desicion 😭😭
Don't bother with V1, V2 or lithium. NanoFoamer PRO is coming out. ruclips.net/video/SGHeboqpjnY/видео.html
I personally use my old V1. I made the mistake by going with V2 non-lithium and the batteries don't last or I just have a defective unit. I don't know. My V1 works fine and I use it until I get the PRO.
@@x2100V2 aims for portability so pro can’t compete in this area and no doubt this is the best portable foamer for traveling out there. In any case lithium is the only way to go.
I have an older all-metal milk brother. It works perfectly to foam milk and there's no plastic bits submerged in hot milk. I fail to see how the Nanofoamer is better but I'm open to explanations.
If I’m not mistaken this is basically like a French press right? If so then yeah the only difference is workflow and portability. We just think the nanofoamer gives you more control, is easier to clean and easier to travel with.
We all have phones with lithium batteries and use them every day and we all okey. :D
How do you heat the milk?
On an induction hob. Get it to 65C then texture.
Hi sir. Are their any health issues with plastic blades being used in hot milk as opposed to using stainless steel frother wisks in other frother wands?
After having the first version for 2 years, still can't make a tulip :D not a barista, true story.
The biggest weakness of the Nanofoamer is that it doesn't heat up the milk. If you don't need portability, spend a similar amount of money on an electric steamer like a Salter EK3131 that uses an 870W heating element and a 240 ml boiler. Just ignore its other coffee-related claims. It's only useful for streaming milk.
Will not upgrade to FS25. PS4 user and don't plan to upgrade to a PS5 just for FS25.
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