28:10 - the very first time David pronounces it as 'mustash' as opposed to 'moostosh'. This was the beginning of the end for Crimewatch. It would never quite capture its full glory again. Note also that Jacqui debuts a new hairstyle at the same time. It was like she knew.
What really angers me about the first case is that the corrupt police officers, cps lawyers and deceptive witnesses were never held accountable for what they did to Stefan and The Molseed Family.
Terrible! Poor Stefan...but to be fair to the witnesses, he did resemble the real killer quite a bit. But I don't know the exact details of his false conviction.
@@noongourfain He was nothing like the real killer in anyway shape or form . It was a total frame up by the police , because they knew it was impossible for him to be the killer and yet they still tried and convicted him . A worse travesty of justice is hard to find . Those that lied to convict him should have themselves been jailed .
Despite the tragedy of Lesley Molseed's murder, I couldn't help but be amused at the witness who deadpanned "We fell out at the youth club on Friday over a maxi dress.". I love how she specified that it was about a maxi dress rather than simply saying "We had an argument and weren't speaking". LOL
Just shows how the best clues are often red herrings-at both murders young men were seen running at pace, but either they were involved in lesser crimes, or were just late for something as they had nothing to do with either murder-which were both carried out by the same man-a 48 year old.
Yep. They mentioned them in the Fred Maltby episode. And Crimewatch was competely on the wrong track. As can be seen in Crimewatch File's "Going Under", they had nothing to do with it.
That fitted the description of Ronald Castree why they ever locked up the wrong guy beggars belief! Stefan Died a year and a half after this show was aired worn out by spending nearly 2 decades in Jail for something he never did sad.
There were plenty of red flags or warning signs about Castree. He fitted the description, he was arrested in July 1976 for a sex attack and fined 25 pounds. Kiszko couldn't climb up a hill like that due to an ankle injury and being hugely overweight even then. Witnesses said they'd seen him that day and around the time the murder was carried out. Kiszko had no criminal convictions before. It's unbelievable he was convicted.
The incompetent Dick Holland led the Kiszko miscarriage of justice, he then showed even greater incompetence in the hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper, how he ever reached the rank he did beggars belief.
After release from prison Kiszko had been told he would receive £500,000 in compensation for the years spent in prison. He had received an interim payment, but neither he nor his mother ever received the full amount they were awarded, since both died before Kiszko was due to receive it and no other close relatives existed.
I think Stefan Kiszko was picked on because he looked odd and was educationally sub-normal. Of course in reality someone like him would have been very unlikely to get away with any type of crime because he wouldn't have had the intelligence to plan it all out properly. Amazing how the police used to be taken in by that sort of simplistic thinking back then. They made a similar mistake with Barry George.
What happened to stefan kiszko was beyond horrific .At his 1976 trial ,evidence was suppressed which would have shown he was innocent .Rip poor lesley and stefan.
Two more tragedies. 1. Kiszko never lived to see Castree convicted for the crime he'd spent 16 years inside for something he'd not done. 2. He died before he got the 500k pay off he was due because of his wrongful imprisonment.
Both serial killers Robert Black and Peter Sutcliffe "The Yorkshire Ripper" were looked at in relation to the murder of Lesley Molseed but later ruled out when a DNA profile was established of her killer.
@@karlmathewrose888 no there was an episode in february but it is completely absent from the web except for listings on IMDB. it covered the murder of alexander drummond who was asphyxiated by a ju-jitsu move. they don't want anyone to make a link between that and threlfall i'm thinking, which after reconstructing last month, they sweep under the carpet here. something beyond the powers of plod was afoot!
8:49 Too close to home this i drive down that road a lot A672 and its not changed one bit, that layby i know it well and i walked up that hill a couple of years back, that's creepy.
@@johncook496 Maybe an auto-erotic asphyxiation accident? Maybe that was why he was calling to see where his father was, so he knew how long he had before he arrived back home.
The first 2 CASES ARE POLICE SAYING,,,, ACTUALLY EVEN THOUGH WE TOLD YOU THIS, WE ARE NOW TELLING YOU SOMETHING ELSE ALL TOGETHER. I hate them, one of my old school friends had a police officer for a father. He was known to beat people up off duty and always bought stolen items off the lads that done burglaries and other shit. Today that prick is an inspector and god knows what he gets away with. A large number are good im sure, but the fact the police who sent a man to jail for 16 years, resulting in his death less than 2 after he was released is disgusting!!! ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING that they didn't even come on crimewatch to apologies. NO ONE DID!!!!!. They just moved on to a new appeal without even offering any support, yet they were always quick enough to jump on the program begging for help doing their job when they couldn't cope. SO ITS NOT WORTH TRUSTING ANY OF THEM.
@@ajs41 Yes but not good enough to ever risk being caught up with the wrong ones mistakes, so I ignore what I see and keep myself to myself. Regardless sorry to bother you with long comments, I wasn't sure if you still read these. GREAT UPLOADS mate I've always liked this program for the nostalgia, and how that theme used to terrify me as a kid. These are some of the best versions on yt. so thank-you.
If all the pro-hanging people had had their way Stefan Kiszko wouldn't have been released from prison, he would have been in a grave. Remember that the next time you say everyone 'knows' who did it.
I feel bad for the guy wrongly convicted in the Lesley Molseed case. He died shortly after his release. The real killer was a sadistic maniac I saw a documentary about him. He should have been caught sooner.
Dennis Granville Smalley was convicted of the murders of Fred Maltby and Joe Rylatt in July 1994; he died in prison in 2005. He was linked with the crime when the axe used to murder Rylatt was discovered and had some distinctive paint on it.
If the corrupt cops hadn't fitted Kisco up they may have got the real killer. I was in Wakefield when Kisco was there and poor guy got a lot of grief there.
Nice of Nick to put the pens back in the packet after telling us about them. I guess he was planning on returning them to the (mail order only) retailer after the show in order to obtain a full refund.
Hi, have you please got Crimewatch February 1992? If so could you please upload it. Just so you know CW May and June 1992, are already uploaded on here, just save you uploading them 2 episodes.
I'm reading about the case right now in the 2001 book Crimewatch Solved. It's beyond horrific. I found this www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sex-attack-kidnapper-jailed-for-20-years-1479763.html%3famp
People were very Naieve back then. They would have looked on that as normal. Today he would have been hunted down and slaughtered if police had not got him. . . Horrendous and cruel bastard
Was there a follow up to the Terrence Hammond case. Was he just a witness? Strange being involved in a robbery considering he now owns his dads million pound truck business. TJHammond Truck Ltd.
Someone said he didn't have it, but someone must have recorded it. Millions of people had video machines at that time. I've got videos that were recorded in Feb 1992 but they don't include Crimewatch.
@@ianbousfield5007 And got a free pass due to this-for assaulting a little girl not long after he got a measly fine. Wonder how many little girls lives he ruined in the ensuing years while an innocent man rotted in jail due to the corrupt police & four lying little cows?
Was Terrence Hammond a part of a robbery? He had a twin brother named Jimmy Hammond, they used to attended Rokeby Comprehensive School Stratford. Terrence is now the owner of T J Hammond Transport Ltd. A racist back in the days apparently, hated black and Asians, but was very much a wimp! My friend’s dad knew him well.
Happened all the time back in the day-many children have gone missing just popping to the shops to pick up something because the parents were too lazy to go themselves.
Barry O'Sullivan interestingly it’s not the first time I’ve seen comments like this in relation to this case. Think there was a similar thread on the Inside Crime documentary.
I’m sure her Mom went to her own grave regretting her decision. I grew up then in the NY area & we constantly spent afternoons running around our suburban neighborhood. On an unrelated note did Brits actually think Ruby Wax was funny???? Ugh!
I hare it when. People blame the mother. No o e forced castree to kill the pittle gitl. It wS broad light on a sunday lunchtime. If lesley molseeds mother was negligent so was mine so wwas every mother since time began. When my father was lesleys age he used to cycle across the south downs. That was in 1920s.
28:10 - the very first time David pronounces it as 'mustash' as opposed to 'moostosh'. This was the beginning of the end for Crimewatch. It would never quite capture its full glory again. Note also that Jacqui debuts a new hairstyle at the same time. It was like she knew.
Hahaha was gonna mention that same thing!
Yeah that weird way of saying it really bugged me.
What really angers me about the first case is that the corrupt police officers, cps lawyers and deceptive witnesses were never held accountable for what they did to Stefan and The Molseed Family.
Also three witnesses gave false evidence.
@@ajs41 A double travesty. :(
Terrible! Poor Stefan...but to be fair to the witnesses, he did resemble the real killer quite a bit. But I don't know the exact details of his false conviction.
how could they screw up with the car being so distinct?
@@noongourfain He was nothing like the real killer in anyway shape or form .
It was a total frame up by the police , because they knew it was impossible for him to be the killer and yet they still tried and convicted him .
A worse travesty of justice is hard to find . Those that lied to convict him should have themselves been jailed .
Despite the tragedy of Lesley Molseed's murder, I couldn't help but be amused at the witness who deadpanned "We fell out at the youth club on Friday over a maxi dress.". I love how she specified that it was about a maxi dress rather than simply saying "We had an argument and weren't speaking". LOL
Robert Border clearly still thinks she was in the right.
The Yorkshire accents are amusing as well-ooh would ya look at t colour of that bloody van lass, bloody awful like.
@@johncook496 LOL I got the same impression! It was HER maxi dress, God dammit!
Me too Couldn't help but laugh when she said that 🤣
I bet that friend feels really guilty about not making it up with Lesley before she was murdered
Aladdin's Cave - toilet break for all of us and I'm sure Nick and Sue too.
Sumatran Black Records ha ha !
Kettle on?
kettle on. nobody but the upper class liked it? Christ knows what they was doing watching Crimewatch by the way.
Just shows how the best clues are often red herrings-at both murders young men were seen running at pace, but either they were involved in lesser crimes, or were just late for something as they had nothing to do with either murder-which were both carried out by the same man-a 48 year old.
Yep. They mentioned them in the Fred Maltby episode. And Crimewatch was competely on the wrong track. As can be seen in Crimewatch File's "Going Under", they had nothing to do with it.
That fitted the description of Ronald Castree why they ever locked up the wrong guy beggars belief! Stefan Died a year and a half after this show was aired worn out by spending nearly 2 decades in Jail for something he never did sad.
13:45 Stephen Miller was convicted of murdering Adrian Hughes and sentenced to life; he hanged himself in his cell 9 years into his sentence.
Thanks for the information Habasi.
There were plenty of red flags or warning signs about Castree. He fitted the description, he was arrested in July 1976 for a sex attack and fined 25 pounds. Kiszko couldn't climb up a hill like that due to an ankle injury and being hugely overweight even then. Witnesses said they'd seen him that day and around the time the murder was carried out. Kiszko had no criminal convictions before. It's unbelievable he was convicted.
Corrupt cops.
The incompetent Dick Holland led the Kiszko miscarriage of justice, he then showed even greater incompetence in the hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper, how he ever reached the rank he did beggars belief.
It appears Lesleys actual killer was caught in 2006 through DNA. What a shame for the guy wrongfully imprisoned all these years.
smck 2016 bet he got a fat compo
After release from prison Kiszko had been told he would receive £500,000 in compensation for the years spent in prison. He had received an interim payment, but neither he nor his mother ever received the full amount they were awarded, since both died before Kiszko was due to receive it and no other close relatives existed.
@@CharlieEdward25 He got nothing because he died 18 months after being released at the age of 41.
I think Stefan Kiszko was picked on because he looked odd and was educationally sub-normal. Of course in reality someone like him would have been very unlikely to get away with any type of crime because he wouldn't have had the intelligence to plan it all out properly. Amazing how the police used to be taken in by that sort of simplistic thinking back then. They made a similar mistake with Barry George.
What happened to stefan kiszko was beyond horrific .At his 1976 trial ,evidence was suppressed which would have shown he was innocent .Rip poor lesley and stefan.
Two more tragedies.
1. Kiszko never lived to see Castree convicted for the crime he'd spent 16 years inside for something he'd not done.
2. He died before he got the 500k pay off he was due because of his wrongful imprisonment.
Also his mother died in the shame, never realising he was innocent. Those cops should have been given his sentence.
disgusting what that poor man and his mum were put through. rip gentle souls...to think they came to britain for a better life.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 she knew her son well enough to know he didn't do it. There was no shame. He was cleared.
@@treasurehunteruk9718untrue. She died after he was released.
corrupt and prejudiced police officers hardly ever got reprimanded! Make me sick!
Alright teg.
yeah a miscarriage of justice that led to his premature death. The police ruined that poor mans life!
Both serial killers Robert Black and Peter Sutcliffe "The Yorkshire Ripper" were looked at in relation to the murder of Lesley Molseed but later ruled out when a DNA profile was established of her killer.
THANKS KEEP THE UPLOADS COMING IM CRIMEWATCH UK;S BIGGEST FAN
Doubt it.
The fact that the February 1992 episode of Crimewatch isn't available anywhere on the internet is kind of a mystery in itself...
Yes it is very odd. I'm always looking out for it.
Definitely
They sometimes did 10 a year, was 1992 such a year???
@@karlmathewrose888 no there was an episode in february but it is completely absent from the web except for listings on IMDB. it covered the murder of alexander drummond who was asphyxiated by a ju-jitsu move. they don't want anyone to make a link between that and threlfall i'm thinking, which after reconstructing last month, they sweep under the carpet here. something beyond the powers of plod was afoot!
@@MsVanorak The pathologist made a big blunder, if he thought beaten and strangled eventually ended up a suicide.
Neil Kinnock at the beginning talking about a Labour government. Nothing changes all these years later. They also lost that election too , obviously
Thanks for the uploads
Aha, John Smith at the start. A lots happened since
Best PM we never had? How different would the course of British political history have been in the 90’s and 2000’s if his heart hadn’t given way...
A great man. So sad that he died.
@@denzel9086 Would have been entertaining if Michael Foot had got elected in 1983.
@@Hi-kq1vi Deary lord yes indeed it would have been haha
@@StewSpaull
LABOUR CUNTS
8:49 Too close to home this i drive down that road a lot A672 and its not changed one bit, that layby i know it well and i walked up that hill a couple of years back, that's creepy.
that poor man was harmless and his poor mum rip.
80's cars in 1975 reconstruction at 6:29.
I noticed that. The red astra stood out a mile 😂
What a total balls up in the john threlfall case!
That would explain the lack of any real Google info on it.
@@robertnunn265 Sweet lord, it is like the Bob Woolmer death at the Cricket World Cup in 2007-another incompetent pathologist by the sounds of it.
Thought I remembered something like this where it turned out not to be murder (though I’d misremembered it as turning out to be suicide).
@@johncook496 Maybe an auto-erotic asphyxiation accident? Maybe that was why he was calling to see where his father was, so he knew how long he had before he arrived back home.
Hi you might be onto something there!
12:56 she says the phone number incorrectly right after saying it correctly lol! *edit then calls a robber a robberer at 13:26. Sack her.
If we're being pedantic, she also said that the Prestons manager parked his car outside the city centre, but Guildford is a town, not a city
@@rhysepoos I have vague recollection of this comment 😂
Morning all. Cheers Andy, another one not seen at the time.
The first 2 CASES ARE POLICE SAYING,,,, ACTUALLY EVEN THOUGH WE TOLD YOU THIS, WE ARE NOW TELLING YOU SOMETHING ELSE ALL TOGETHER. I hate them, one of my old school friends had a police officer for a father. He was known to beat people up off duty and always bought stolen items off the lads that done burglaries and other shit. Today that prick is an inspector and god knows what he gets away with. A large number are good im sure, but the fact the police who sent a man to jail for 16 years, resulting in his death less than 2 after he was released is disgusting!!! ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING that they didn't even come on crimewatch to apologies. NO ONE DID!!!!!. They just moved on to a new appeal without even offering any support, yet they were always quick enough to jump on the program begging for help doing their job when they couldn't cope. SO ITS NOT WORTH TRUSTING ANY OF THEM.
You said a large number of them are good.
@@ajs41 Yes but not good enough to ever risk being caught up with the wrong ones mistakes, so I ignore what I see and keep myself to myself. Regardless sorry to bother you with long comments, I wasn't sure if you still read these. GREAT UPLOADS mate I've always liked this program for the nostalgia, and how that theme used to terrify me as a kid. These are some of the best versions on yt. so thank-you.
@@ajs41is that you that uploads 999 emergency
If all the pro-hanging people had had their way Stefan Kiszko wouldn't have been released from prison, he would have been in a grave. Remember that the next time you say everyone 'knows' who did it.
Instead he spent all those horrendous years in prison & then died not long after he was released. For him it was a death sentence anyway 💔😢
My sisters doppelganger the horse thief.
Lesley & Stefan so heartbreaking & tragic all around.
May They Rest in Peace 🙏🏻🌹
I feel bad for the guy wrongly convicted in the Lesley Molseed case. He died shortly after his release. The real killer was a sadistic maniac I saw a documentary about him. He should have been caught sooner.
Dennis Granville Smalley was convicted of the murders of Fred Maltby and Joe Rylatt in July 1994; he died in prison in 2005. He was linked with the crime when the axe used to murder Rylatt was discovered and had some distinctive paint on it.
David Boothroyd I read that but who was his accomplice? There’s no mention of that anywhere
The two lads were just a couple of scallies. Nothing to do with either murder. Just a red herring.
Check out the Crimewatch File episode 'Going Under'. The police were, at the time of this actual Crimewatch, on completely the wrong track.
damien mocata channel uploading some missimg episodes
If the corrupt cops hadn't fitted Kisco up they may have got the real killer. I was in Wakefield when Kisco was there and poor guy got a lot of grief there.
Are we only missing 03/85 and 02/92 from available editions on YT??
I uploaded March 1985 a couple of weeks ago.
Thanks for the advice nick but my girlfriend's already photographed my valuables thanks😀
do you have April 1992?
I don't but someone else has uploaded it here: ruclips.net/video/9BZtZ6Rb-wE/видео.html
Back by unpopular demand it's the lost property cave.
I love the cave
Nice of Nick to put the pens back in the packet after telling us about them.
I guess he was planning on returning them to the (mail order only) retailer after the show in order to obtain a full refund.
Looking forward to watching this tomorrow. Just watched April 92 from RC74. Nice one.
Hi, have you please got Crimewatch February 1992? If so could you please upload it. Just so you know CW May and June 1992, are already uploaded on here, just save you uploading them 2 episodes.
Young Blair LOL
The devil
Haha Love Joy!!! God I forgot about that show
Criminals from beginning to end. What a nightmare.
Hiya Andy.Just out of interest,mate - have you got Crimewatch uk and update from February 1992 ? it seems to jump from January 91 to March 91
sorry 92 even.Sorry
@@deltabravo4097 No, I don't.
That's okay mate.Thanks for holding the fort in RedCard74's absence !!!
Poor Lesley Molseed. :(
Looking for February 1992... I was 17...
I've read that Merlyn Nuttall (Effra Road attack) case resulted in a conviction but cannot see the assailant's name online. Anyone know?
I'm reading about the case right now in the 2001 book Crimewatch Solved. It's beyond horrific. I found this www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/sex-attack-kidnapper-jailed-for-20-years-1479763.html%3famp
The evil piece of shit got released in 2013
There is a video on it, but I can't find it.
Something like Anthony Ferrara. He is still in prison, think.
Very good show
February 1992 is now on RUclips
Ronald Castree
Hey thanks !!
There's an alternative universe where John Smith lived to become PM and they dodged the deadly bullet that was Blair becoming Prime Minister...
41:43 Phoebe Waller Bridge has aged well...😊
Aw the first murder of the little girl :(
Oh god not you again. Hadn't seen a comment from you in a few vids. Ugh.
I agree with him!
if i seen a man taking a little girl on to the moors like he saw, i would have checked it out.
I've recommended you for The Queen's Commendation for Hypothetical Bravery with the Benefit of Hindsight.
People were very Naieve back then. They would have looked on that as normal. Today he would have been hunted down and slaughtered if police had not got him. . . Horrendous and cruel bastard
Was there a follow up to the Terrence Hammond case. Was he just a witness? Strange being involved in a robbery considering he now owns his dads million pound truck business. TJHammond Truck Ltd.
Cheers Andy! Wheres RedCard74? hope he has February 1992. 😁
Someone said he didn't have it, but someone must have recorded it. Millions of people had video machines at that time. I've got videos that were recorded in Feb 1992 but they don't include Crimewatch.
@@ajs41 Have you seen February 1992? If so call the studio, or if you prefer you can call Crimestoppers.
@@Hi-kq1vi 😂😂
I remember February 1992 really well, that was the Michael Sams appeal.
@@johncook496 Huge case, let's hope somebody has it.
time again thanks Andy js
This is the person who was finally convicted of murder in the first case:
murderpedia.org/male.C/c/castree-ronald.htm
@@ianbousfield5007 And he was fine with someone else spending 16 years in jail for his crime.
@@ianbousfield5007 And got a free pass due to this-for assaulting a little girl not long after he got a measly fine. Wonder how many little girls lives he ruined in the ensuing years while an innocent man rotted in jail due to the corrupt police & four lying little cows?
Was Terrence Hammond a part of a robbery? He had a twin brother named Jimmy Hammond, they used to attended Rokeby Comprehensive School Stratford. Terrence is now the owner of T J Hammond Transport Ltd. A racist back in the days apparently, hated black and Asians, but was very much a wimp! My friend’s dad knew him well.
brilliant stuff :)
13:00 she muddled up the number
Thanks for taking to the comments to tell us in the video we've just watched.
@@AndyGibsonTV shut it you
Or maybe not eh Neil???
Thank you :)
Pussy pussy.
Jacqui Hames was smokin' hot in those days.
And I thought it was only me that had a mega crush on her . I've always found that shorter dark haired women try harder in the bedroom .
Love the Labour PPB at the beginning v🙂 - Look a t Blair haha
8:42 eddie izzard
Magic
who would send a kid to shops 10 mins away at that age i blame the mum
Charlie Shakur that’s interesting. I blame Ronald Castree, Who was convicted in 2006.
Happened all the time back in the day-many children have gone missing just popping to the shops to pick up something because the parents were too lazy to go themselves.
Ridiculous comment. As has already been mentioned, I blame Ronald Castree.
Barry O'Sullivan interestingly it’s not the first time I’ve seen comments like this in relation to this case. Think there was a similar thread on the Inside Crime documentary.
Any kid should be able to walk free and unharmed in this country
38:51 Number 1 and number 2! Really!? 🤣😂
I’m sorry, but why did Leslie’s mum send her to the shops alone at her age? Truly dreadful crime. 😔
The 70s, a lot safer times but unfortunately she came across pure evil that day
It was lunchtime on a Sunday! Kids should be able to play out in broad daylight without being murdered.
You could leave your front door open in them days. A lot safer and people were trusting.
I’m sure her Mom went to her own grave regretting her decision. I grew up then in the NY area & we constantly spent afternoons running around our suburban neighborhood.
On an unrelated note did Brits actually think Ruby Wax was funny???? Ugh!
I hare it when. People blame the mother. No o e forced castree to kill the pittle gitl. It wS broad light on a sunday lunchtime. If lesley molseeds mother was negligent so was mine so wwas every mother since time began.
When my father was lesleys age he used to cycle across the south downs. That was in 1920s.
I fancy Sue more each episode 😁
We get it. Please shut the hell up about it. Christ.
She is 72 and is probably someone's granny, by now.
@@treasurehunteruk9718 so?
Fancy someone's granny?????
@@treasurehunteruk9718 luv me some granny 😋
This guy channel would be ok without the crap beginning edit it be mint without the adverts in
I don't understand your comment.
Try learning English .........
@@treasurehunteruk9718 would but I'm from Poland lol
@@stevepest3184 English lessons are available in most countries ............
@@treasurehunteruk9718 I'm yorkshire u turd dyslexia
Could Lesley’s killer b her bilingual Father? Xx
What ?
Bilingual father?
Do you mean biological father?
Crying
Eh
Sutcliffe had something to do with little Lesley Mildred I'm convinced
Ronald Castree was linked to the murder by DNA and found guilty. Sutcliffe had nothing to do with it.
Wrong