I'm a fairly religious person but I swear to God if anyone in my family says the words 'conversion therapy' as an honest suggestion for my kids, they are being cut from my will, getting served a restraining order, and getting more than a few unkind words in spam-level droves. Doubtful it would happen since I'm bi, but I just think I don't get flak cuz I married a woman.
The restraining order is a good idea, but it does cut both ways. You cannot contact the restrained party in any way, including spamming them. Technically, it voids the restraining order.
@@condorboss3339 true, but it takes forever for those things to go through, believe me, I know. So during the waiting period, they will be tormented by every third party individual I know until my kid is 100% protected
1st story - OP's fiance could have said, "I can't date your daughter, she's related to you, and I don't want to take the chance that crazy is inherited."
I'd actually phrase it a little differently: "Your daughter seems like a nice, attractive person, but there's no way any sane person would want to have anything to do with any family which you are a part of. *You* are the one ruining your daughter's chances of finding a good relationship, because of your disgusting, racist, pathetic behavior. You need to do better."
Conversion therapy is illegal in most places for a reason. Basically, the aunt was volunteering to sign him up for several months of psychological abuse. It was very awesome of the rest of his family to be so accepting and supportive.
Yet cross-sex hormones and mutilation are supposedly human rights the rest of us should pay for. Not to mention the abuse of parents, being told they have to let the doctors destroy their children or the kid will kill themselves.
"Conversion therapy" is actually _literally brainwashing._ They use many of the same psychological techniques that are used in espionage and prisoner torture to confuse and manipulate people into compliance and submission against their will. There is effectively no real difference between the two. Anyone who would do that to their own child, just because they're not living their life the way they want them to, is no parent. They are essentially using the same tactics that terrorists use, within their own family.
Last story - My elder sister seemed to think that boys & girls couldn't have platonic friendships. Called me all sorts of things. No contact for 20+ years now. I'm much happier.
Yea I never got that. Why can’t guys and girls just be platonic friends. Why do a lot of people view men and women being friends as they are always sleeping together.
The last story was a horror story for me. Omg, imagine having to ask your father and chosen future husband permission to get a job! Or your chosen husband to be saying you can't talk to any more guys at all. I would be so scared to live in that type of a house hold where I'm not allowed to do anything without permission from a male. I'm my own person, and can make my own decisions.
@@arii1987 yet males can be 304s all day? you can't turn a 304 into a husband either. you men forget that if you force us to cook and raise your kids then we can easily turn your children against you and poison your food. if you hate women so much then just go be gay then and leave us alone
People misinterpret the commandment of "Don't take the Lord's name in vain." It really means, don't use God as an excuse or crutch for your horrible actions. The Karens in #2 & #3 are prime examples of it.
Thank you! Not a Christian, but simply invoking a deity by using their name is not using their name in vain! And if God is as loving as they claim he is, why would he get pressed about his name becoming an expression for disbelief, whether that disbelief is just common skepticism or disbelief at a miraculous happening?
@@jelly_4_brainzshouldn’t use god as a excuse to go around doing horrible things. These people in the stories are mentally insane. Specially that cult story.
I have a big problem with the Duggar family and courtship. When a teen first begins dating, they’re going into it with the idea they will marry that person? This is not healthy at all and the Duggars are in a cult, too.
The evidence also shows that it simply does not work. Not even a little. All that someone learns from it is how to suppress their true feelings so that they can pretend to have changed. This is not surprising when you realise that the entire concept of conversion therapy is based on a lie. Unfortunately, I can't expand on that without running into the YT automatic filters which are triggered by accurate, clinical language.
It is. How is forcing children to watch inappropriate videos and hurting them when they don't listen ok. I can't imagine the trauma they were put through. Along with severe nightmares.
First story: This is why I don't like matchmakers, Mulan even ruined it for me. Not everyone is traditional and racist Karen. Story 2: Gays and Lesbians aren't a sickness Crazy Aunt.
This is why i became an Atheist after years and years of trying so hard to follow a religion that made me miserable (im a white female) and while my family isnt quite cult levels of religious they are still very traditional. The irony is that i was never truly happy until i left religion out of my life completely. My boyfriend is an Atheist as well, and im now happier than i could ever have hoped. Good on OP for not letting the cult trap her in misery forever.
Story 2: Honestly good on the mother for being open minded about OP choices but the entitled aunt need to accept OP love life. Seriously I keep hearing horrible stories about these quote 'pray the gay the away' therapy houses and it's not good at all.
I think she ment she wants to control ops love style By "family" and blah blah She needs to be in a psycos thrarapy to at least say Oh ok under standble
Conversion "therapy" is not only useless, but it's downright dangerous. Any parent who subjects their children to this abuse needs to be jailed. Screw religious stupidity, it's abuse. I'm glad that Australia & other relatively enlightened countries are banning it.
Yes, I found the whole family accepting him to be wholesome. Too bad the aunt tried to ruin it. I am the same way as the mother. If I ever have a kid and they say they are gay/ bi, or even trans. I will hug them and say I will love and support them no matter what.
8:39 “You just haven’t met the right girl yet!” And *that’s* the part where OP could (and should) have said: “Maybe so, but it definitely seems like I found the right guy already.”
As someone who came out at 17...wow am I glad NONE of my family did that! Everyone just responded when I told them "oh you finally came out? About time" (jokingly, they all support me)
Me and my brother actually punched some ass in the face because he was harassing my cousin for being gay. The saddest part was my cousin thought we wouldn’t approve of him being gay, ya right the whole family knew and approved and all of his cousins were told to stand up for him if anyone wanted to antagonize him.😂. He had a whole family of guardian angels
Story 1: OP's fiance should have told Karen, "I will never marry your daughter because that would make *YOU* my mother-in-law, and that isn't going to happen.
Story 1 - Oh my gosh… What a witch mother. Forcing a random stranger to ‘date her daughter’ when he’s already engaged and had his fiancé with him. At least her daughter has common sense and apologized for her Mother’s actions.
Gods I can’t even imagine how often that mother humiliates her daughter on a regular basis!! I wouldn’t blame that poor girl for wanting to fade out of existence after this.
Welcome to wonderfull "diverse" 21st century Britain where people of all ethnic backgrounds want to come........and become British - yeah right !, THIS right here is the problem, those same people dont WANT to fit into our society and have no desire to, all congregating in small areas that eventually become ethnic no go ghettos...they want OUR western society and all its financial benefits......but with US not in it. they didnt come three thousand miles to assimilate they come to REPLACE !...........and somehow WE are the racists.
EM- "How could you turn down my daughter? Is she not pretty enough?" F- "No, she has a crazy mother who is push and a control freak. There's no way I'm marrying into that family."
Story 1: Imagine having a mother who thinks at 18 you should be so desperate to get married, that you should approach strangers. The poor young lady probably gets loads of emotional abuse at home.
First story: I agree with DarkFluff, while Karen's daughter might be a great person and very desirable for dating/marrying, the fact that she comes with Karen as a MIL overshadows everything else with a Godzilla sized red flag that is Karen. Once any perspective guy meets Karen they will eventually leave the daughter and go for someone easier/safer to be with that doesn't come with a Karenzilla.
Pretty sure that daughter had enough of her Karen mom, moved out, and cut her off. Even she can’t deal with her anymore either any more than Op, and the poor girl has to live with that crazy lady
They said that the guy in story 1 was half-Asian, right? So he already is a perfect example of how multi-racial relationships can have good results (even if his parents didn’t stay together, they had him). He should have told that Karen that.
Story 1 - I feel really bad for the daughter. She took her shot, got (politely) shot down, and handled it all like a mature adult. “Sorry to bother you, congratz, I’m out.” Many actual adults would have handled that less well. Case in point: Karen.
Story 2: Okay, why didn’t the mother stop the aunt from harassing op like that? If that were me, my mom would’ve been all up in her face berating her to not treat her son like that.
The last story sounds like a Girl I wanted to date at an old job, but her Family were Hardcore Mormon, and I was Non-Denominational Christian at the time. (I'm ANTI-Religious now) I hope she's doing Well, because her Family sounded COMPLETELY TOXIC, and REALLY grapey! To me, She's the One That Got Away.
That happened to me too, several times! My fiance is also Far East Asian, and each time it happened it was other Far East Asians (not from his country though) who had seen him arm and arm with me (white girl), shot me daggers and proceeded to bring their daughters over to him to ask him if he'd date them. They were sooo mad when he told them he was with me, glaring at me angrily the whole time like I'd committed some mortal sin. Been with him over 21 years now and the only racism we've ever had is from Chinese mums lol.
Gay trans girl here. I was in a relationship with a black trans woman a year and a half ago, and neither of us ever got any hate for being an interracial T4T sapphic couple when we were together. Nobody called me a N-word lover or anything. Nor did she get any racist hate for it. She had been married to a white woman years before she transitioned; if they ever got any hate for it, I'm not aware of it. You don't fall for the ethnicity/race/whatever. You fall for the person. As long as the two of you are happy together, that's all that matters. To hell with anyone who says otherwise. If I were to date a sapphic Asian girl, I wouldn't care what other Asian people think. I don't care what anybody thinks. As long as she's not a longsword lesbian*, TERF, or transmedicalist, it's all good. *Longsword lesbians are binary she/her lesbians who refuse to date anyone who's not a binary she/her woman who's exclusively attracted to other women. They won't date bisexual or pansexual women, sapphics on the asexual spectrum, nonbinary lesbians, or pronoun-nonconforming lesbians (such as he/him lesbians). The gay male equivalent is a gravity knife gay. They erase other members of the LGBTQIA+ community, and in doing so, erase themselves as well.
@@DarDarBinks1986The longsword/gravity knife thing is just as mind-blowing for me as any of the other stories in today's video! I know it shouldn't surprise me that it exists, but it's so hard to understand.
@@rebeccacarr5154 And then you have transmedicalists a.k.a. truscum. These people want to drag us back to the pre-2011 Harry Benjamin rules for treating trans people like me. Some history: Dr. Harry Benjamin was an endocrinologist and early advocate for transgender people during the 20th century. His work began in the 1940s and continued until his death in 1986. Benjamin created a six-tier scale that he used to group his patients according to their level of sexual dysfunction and misery. If you didn't land on Tier 5 or 6, classified as "True Transsexual" (that was the language used back then), you were often deemed a fake or crossdresser and denied treatment. Dr. Benjamin's scale was very limiting to trans patients. By his rules, you had to have known you were trans since childhood, have intense physical dysphoria, demand medical transition (including gender-affirming surgery), and be attracted to members of your assigned sex. He believed that transition had to make you straight, not gay, bi, or pansexual. You also had to live as your true gender for at least a year before you could access treatment in those days. A trans woman could risk losing her estrogen if she went to the doctor wearing a t-shirt and jeans instead of a dress. A trans man could lose his testosterone if he didn't act "manly enough" in the eyes of his doctor. And nonbinary people weren't considered. The old Benjamin scale was thankfully scrapped in 2011 when the WPATH (World Professional Association for Transgender Health) adopted a whole new Standards of Care. It helped that they actually consulted trans people this time around. At that point, WPATH started focusing on specific individual symptoms and divorced gender identity from sexual orientation altogether. If this history makes it sound like transmedicalism is a supremacist concept, that's because it is. Transmedicalists want to reinforce the old Benjamin rules and require more gatekeeping than we have now. They even rail against nonbinary people using the transgender label and want to see fewer people receiving treatment for gender dysphoria, elevating the needs of binary trans people over any other gender identity. This movement began among trans Boomers who resent that the younger generation has easier access to what said Boomers often had to act, lie, and manipulate to achieve. Transmedicalism has spread to younger trans people, unfortunately, especially young trans men. Even transfems aren't immune to this line of thinking (e.g., Blaire White). If a trans person's first exposure to transness is through a transmedicalist, this can severely set back their own self-confidence and push them deeper into the closet. Transmedicalists will bully and gaslight anyone who doesn't think like they do. They've even been known to tell people, "No, you're not trans." To any trans person reading this: DO NOT BELIEVE THOSE LIES! They are bully tactics designed to gaslight and minimize people's pain for self-gratification. Don't let transmedicalists try to gatekeep you with their "No true Scotsman" fallacies!
I actually had someone once try to argue with me that atheism/areligiosity is "constitutionally illegal" specifically because it says "freedom OF religion", not "freedom FROM religion... therefore I could choose any religion I wanted, but I HAD to pick one. It was an incredibly stupid argument. 😂
Story 1: honestly, that woman was being racist. Good luck to her daughter, I hope she gets things figured out with her mom. I doubt it though Story 2: "you just haven't found the right girl yet" is such a gross thing to say to someone who is gay. Okay Karen, you don't like women? It's just because you haven't found the right woman yet! I'm sure you'll change your mind once she comes around! Also, conversion therapy is illegal in Canada because it's abuse and doesn't work. The states needs to follow suit. Story 3: I remember this one, I'm so glad OP managed to get out of the cult
@@TheSjuris Vikings only wore horned helmets for rituals and ceremonies, never for battle. The blame goes to a certain opera for perpetuating that myth.
@@lordnazar6382 Thank you. As a historian and reenactor I can confirm this. Vikings helmets had no horns. It's too much of a pain in the rear end when you have to whip around and you end up off balance simply because your helmet came loose, double that for anything metal sticking up from it. Helmet is meant to protect the head, not throw you off balance.
That cult mom story actually gave me anxiety because I actually knew people like that (I'm related to some of them). I'm thankful that my part of the family was a little more secular, because every time my grandma took me to visit them on Sundays, I always felt so uncomfortable, and I didn't know until I got a lot older why I got bad vibes from them.
For story 2 and me being a smart ass at the time of age lol i would have told my aunt "what you never heard of a Homie kiss" just to see her reaction 😅
Me and my dad are sarcastic aholes. If one of my family members disproves of who I love (thank goodness they are all open minded) you can bet they would receive a bitting comeback
@@drakofox1362 true but unfortunately for me it’s gotten me in trouble at work too😬 because my brain thinks the sarcastic remarks and my mouth says it before my brain can say “wait don’t say it out loud”.😂. Still the looks on the Karen’s faces is priceless plus my boss is pretty understanding.
Story #3 sounds very much like one of the Duggar girls' story! Seriously! I think it was Jill's story with some of the details turned around or exaggerated. I literally just read her book and thats pretty much word for word what happened in the book and she's been married since 2014. Crazy!!
He's a chicken, he's a chicken. He's a big whiney man. And he's never just happy. It's too hot or it's too cold. It's too sweet or too salt. It's never right but always wrong! Give him King, he wants Stella. Give him wine, he wants a beer. Do you like Esterella, he plays Sister Smile. He's a chicken, he's a chicken. He's a big whiney man. And he's never just happy. It's too hot or it's too cold. It's too sweet or too salt. It's never right but always wrong!
Story 1: To the statement about Asians and traditions, if I were him, I would reply, "I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that tradition has already been broken by my parents, since I have a white parent, so I'm just following their lead." But I'm afraid even that would get a racist response, which would then include the parents. Some people are just too stubborn in their opinions.
1st story: He's a bit of a fixer-upper. He's got a couple of flaws. His quote "engagement " is a flex arrangement. His brain's a bit betwixt. Get the fiance out of the way, and the whole thing will be fixed. 😂 Clearly the Karen is a troll.
#1: Sounds like the mother-in-law from Hades, feel sorry for the young lady. #3: Hard to believe there are still families that treat their children like this. They absolutely decide how their children's lives will happen.
Oh no. I hope you’re kidding. Yes, the parents were horrible, but selling your soul to Satan? There are no “backsies” with that Demon. No “takebacks”. Just ask Katy Perry. Or Lady Gaga. Or Taylor Swift.
As much as i love the idea, i think you're forgetting how dangerous doing that in a cult is. Some religious extremists are not above physical abuse, or even murder, when it comes to their beliefs.
I read the 3rd story a while ago, somewhere else. Again, it shows just how crazy some people are in the world. Also, story 1, I am transgender, and I would have loved to see EK's reaction to that! 👩🦳
I honestly love your channel because out of people reading all of these entitled people stories you show more emotion than any other channel who does the same thing that I've seen
About the last story. There are parts of the world where arranged marriages are very common, and in "western" countries arranged marriages used to be more common than they are now. I'm not saying arranged marriages always work out well, I'm just saying that the current "western" way of marriage hasn't always been as common as people today might think.
I've got no problems with arranged marriages. But I do with forced marriages. It is up to the couple in question to make a decision whether they should enter the relationship, not forcing one of them into it as bartered property.
I played with barbies amd use highheels, hell I teach my older sister to walk with high heels. And im hetero, some people are truly moronic from birth.
Fun fact: High heels were originally men's shoes. They started in medieval Persia as riding shoes, with the heel hooking into your stirrups when riding a horse. Then they spread into Europe, where noblemen and aristocratic men went apeshit over them. Even as late as the 18th century, men wore heels, including the Founding Fathers of the U.S. It's where we get the expression "well-heeled" from, referring to someone in a position of wealth or authority. Blame 19th century dandies such as Beau Brummell for ruining men's fashion. Menswear stagnated for over 200 years because of people like him. That and the French Revolution. All the flamboyant men's fashions that were popular among the ancient régime went down the shitter due to the French First Republic and First Empire. If you wore that shit around the Jacobins, they'd have given you the same reaction as if you wore a non-Philly team's jersey into a Philly sports bar. In the U.S., the Great Male Renunciation that started in Europe was associated with American republicanism. Ben Franklin gave up his powdered wig during the American Revolution. Later on, in 1840, Charles Ogle, a Whig congressman from Pennsylvania, gave his Gold Spoon Oration, a speech denouncing the flamboyant lifestyle of Martin Van Buren.
I'm a cis straight male (okay, call it 0.04 on the Kinsey scale) and I love lots of traditionally feminine things. I will forever have an empty spot on my shoulder where a sleepy baby's head belongs. And if people weren't such buttholes, I would totally be rocking tall boots, jeggings and tuinc tops.
Story 2: Grandma, Grandpa, siblings, uncle, cousin and Mum are amazing and OP has a beautiful loving family (barring one aunt who is obviously not really family).
OP in that last story was most definitely rescued. I know people personally who have horror stories about those "cults." Her being rescued also reminded me: If you go to the animal shelter and rescue a pet, you're a hero. But if you go to the women's shelter looking for a date, that's a problem? 😂
S1 At the point of the mother marching up and demanding a reason why fiance wont date her daughter, I'd've hit her with "well I have my reasons, but a brand new one is: I would never want to marry into a family with YOU in it"
Story 1; I have seen (Asian) mothers going door to door with their daughters looking for a husband. While unorthodox to most, not unheard of. This mother, however, took it to a whole new level. If anyone is shaming their family, it is her. Story 2; as a gay man, I have to really restrain myself to not slap smart anyone who dares to suggest conversion therapy. It has been made illegal where I am, and am hope other places follow suit. That aunt is about to find herself the family pariah. Would serve her right if any of her kids were lgbt. Story 3; the whole thing is creepy. My main retort would be to the other family’s mum. When she says any relationship between a woman and a man is cheating, I would have asked “so how do you feel about your husband cheating on you with me?” Since the two are engaging and not (married) family yet, by the mothers logic it is a relationship. Moreover, he is having relationships with many women, since he probably speaks to a lot of women.
For the first story: OP said her fiancee was a 33 m, the EM had a daughter that was about 17f ........33m 17f, am I the only one that realizes this is the MAIN reason why he can't get married to her.
Story 2 I like how the whole family knew and supported him and expected him except that 1 aunt, that’s how family should be in my mind plus sounds like a great fun loving family. For me was when he told his mum and she just hugged him and told him she loved him.
It sounds like the OP in courtship story are IBLP. I recommend the documentary "Shiny, Happy People if you are interested in learning more about it, on the surface they appear like perfect Christian families but there's a lot of abuse underneath it all.
I learned about a Christian Church who did beautiful praise. But the young people (12 to 18) were raised with a lot of guilt and secret relationships. They all shouted love for the Lord, adults punished eachother harshly when they went off track and all of them had a secret life. They expected at least 10 percent of your pay check
The amount of people I’ve met who have run away from an arranged marriage is unbelievable ! A lot of the women are victims of abuse from their husbands, as are their children.
Saint John the Apostle said it best in one of his epicles No one who says he loves God, but hates his fellow man, is a Christian. Unfortunately there are phony people in every segment of life (secular or religious) who just love to virtual signal. Man looks upon the outer form but God reads the heart. He ain't fooled by some people's 🐂💩 and they're going to get a VERY nasty surprise come Judgement Day. IE, the separation of Sheep from Goats parable.
@@brendanboomhour7606 Yup, Christianity started out as the Cult of Saints, which morphed into Catholicism. Of course, since religions can barely tolerate the ideals of other religions, its inevitable that when one gets too large, disagreements in interpretations of the lore and how they should be applied cause the religion to split and branch out into other denominations. Its all well and good until they try to smear their religion all over you and/or force feed it into the impressionable minds of their offspring.
Story 3: it seems like guy #1 had the potential to be a good, decent person but that he was being ruined by his awful family and their awful religion. Very sad.
If TALKING to a man is considered a relationship, hence cheating on your man... dear god: OP shouldn't even THINK about talking to a women. I mean that would be a relationship with another women. xD
i think i read the other day that all type of "conversion terapi" is illigal in norway and if living in norway it would be illigal to go to another country and have it done to someone to.
Story 2: Bigot aunt but you should've told her for the pure fact your partner could've been the person you threw under the bus for all you know. Your aunt could've gone after them not you.
Certain cultists (crescent cultists mostly) believe otherwise; especially those from a kingdom that flies a green flag that bears a sword and an abjad script.
I'm a fairly religious person but I swear to God if anyone in my family says the words 'conversion therapy' as an honest suggestion for my kids, they are being cut from my will, getting served a restraining order, and getting more than a few unkind words in spam-level droves. Doubtful it would happen since I'm bi, but I just think I don't get flak cuz I married a woman.
The restraining order is a good idea, but it does cut both ways. You cannot contact the restrained party in any way, including spamming them. Technically, it voids the restraining order.
@@condorboss3339 true, but it takes forever for those things to go through, believe me, I know. So during the waiting period, they will be tormented by every third party individual I know until my kid is 100% protected
1st story - OP's fiance could have said, "I can't date your daughter, she's related to you, and I don't want to take the chance that crazy is inherited."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would have said "I don't marry inbreeds."
Ehh.... seems a little needlessly cruel to the daughter of the Karen. She didn't do anything wrong.
I'd actually phrase it a little differently: "Your daughter seems like a nice, attractive person, but there's no way any sane person would want to have anything to do with any family which you are a part of. *You* are the one ruining your daughter's chances of finding a good relationship, because of your disgusting, racist, pathetic behavior. You need to do better."
I what world does stuff like that story happen?
Conversion therapy is illegal in most places for a reason. Basically, the aunt was volunteering to sign him up for several months of psychological abuse. It was very awesome of the rest of his family to be so accepting and supportive.
Yet cross-sex hormones and mutilation are supposedly human rights the rest of us should pay for. Not to mention the abuse of parents, being told they have to let the doctors destroy their children or the kid will kill themselves.
"Conversion therapy" is actually _literally brainwashing._ They use many of the same psychological techniques that are used in espionage and prisoner torture to confuse and manipulate people into compliance and submission against their will. There is effectively no real difference between the two.
Anyone who would do that to their own child, just because they're not living their life the way they want them to, is no parent. They are essentially using the same tactics that terrorists use, within their own family.
Yes, torture is illegal in most states.
In some countries, conversion therapy is classified as mental rape with punishments for people perpetrating it akin to this for physical rape.
@@michaelpillingnow - Sounds like a fitting solution. Religious bigots need to stop messing with people's minds.
Last story - My elder sister seemed to think that boys & girls couldn't have platonic friendships. Called me all sorts of things. No contact for 20+ years now. I'm much happier.
Yea I never got that. Why can’t guys and girls just be platonic friends. Why do a lot of people view men and women being friends as they are always sleeping together.
My grandmother thinks all my female friends that she’d just met were my girlfriend.. wait until she finds out I’m gay-
I can see where the misconception stems from though, as a solid friendship is a prerequisite for a good romantic relationship.
My ex's twin sisters and mother have this mentality too. Made my skin crawl.
Too many people still think this, it's weird.
My father wanted to send me to Conversion "Therapy" , my mother held a gun to the back of his head said "No!" and it was Never brought up again.
Your mom is the goat.
Damn that woman wears the pants lol
So your mom committed aggravated assault? Flip the roles and tell me this sounds sane
@@mirjamkronemeijer3402 I mean.. It worked, didn't it?
And that's exactly how she should've handled it, good on your mother for standing up against that BS.
The last story was a horror story for me. Omg, imagine having to ask your father and chosen future husband permission to get a job! Or your chosen husband to be saying you can't talk to any more guys at all. I would be so scared to live in that type of a house hold where I'm not allowed to do anything without permission from a male. I'm my own person, and can make my own decisions.
It's not Biblical either. It is either puritanism or something like it. Amish maybe.
It sounds good. Great way to avoid a woman going woke rubbish feminist or something worse like turn into an OF 304.
More like Islamic, I'd say.@meljordan220
@@arii1987 yet males can be 304s all day? you can't turn a 304 into a husband either. you men forget that if you force us to cook and raise your kids then we can easily turn your children against you and poison your food.
if you hate women so much then just go be gay then and leave us alone
@@arii1987 that's a weird way of outing yourself as a fascist...😂🤡
People misinterpret the commandment of "Don't take the Lord's name in vain." It really means, don't use God as an excuse or crutch for your horrible actions. The Karens in #2 & #3 are prime examples of it.
Just like every religious hypocrite that uses religious as an excuse to abuse and harass people, even if they were family.
Yes, thank you! Have a 👍
Thank you! I explained that to my family when they told me not to take the lord's name in vain.
Thank you! Not a Christian, but simply invoking a deity by using their name is not using their name in vain! And if God is as loving as they claim he is, why would he get pressed about his name becoming an expression for disbelief, whether that disbelief is just common skepticism or disbelief at a miraculous happening?
@@jelly_4_brainzshouldn’t use god as a excuse to go around doing horrible things. These people in the stories are mentally insane. Specially that cult story.
Ugh, the cult courtship story makes me feel like I need a shower. Everything about that makes my skin crawl.
This story re-enforces my view that religions are designed mostly to control people...women in particular. 😡😡😡🤷
I feel ya.
I have a big problem with the Duggar family and courtship. When a teen first begins dating, they’re going into it with the idea they will marry that person? This is not healthy at all and the Duggars are in a cult, too.
Well it's a fake made up story just for reddit points so don't get too worked up
@@sasukedemon888888888 I find this take so weird, why are you convinced that it’s fake?
Conversion therapy is considered torture by the United Nations.
The evidence also shows that it simply does not work. Not even a little. All that someone learns from it is how to suppress their true feelings so that they can pretend to have changed.
This is not surprising when you realise that the entire concept of conversion therapy is based on a lie. Unfortunately, I can't expand on that without running into the YT automatic filters which are triggered by accurate, clinical language.
And it's illegal here in Canada!
@@fzerowipeoutlover As it should be!
It is. How is forcing children to watch inappropriate videos and hurting them when they don't listen ok. I can't imagine the trauma they were put through. Along with severe nightmares.
Good
Story #2: If I were your mom, your aunt would need physical therapy!!👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾
If I was his mom his aunt would be fed to an African lungfish. Look them up. They are glorious!
First story: This is why I don't like matchmakers, Mulan even ruined it for me. Not everyone is traditional and racist Karen. Story 2: Gays and Lesbians aren't a sickness Crazy Aunt.
But crazykarenitis is.
@@jonathan_herrsadly there still isn’t a cure 😢
@@Allantitan oh, there is, it's just that the karen doesn't always survive the cure...
@@SonsOfLorgarsounds like the same thing some people say about gays and lesbians. Are you sure you want to match that kinda energy
@@markgoodwin4500no lol not even the same smacking someone for being entitled is different than smacking someone for being gay
What in the hell was that last story? That was insane. People aren't pieces of property.
It was a cult. Those people are insane.
Precisely.
These cults need to be criminalized and all fanatical members arrested and charged.
Sounded like a lot like Mormonism
This is why i became an Atheist after years and years of trying so hard to follow a religion that made me miserable (im a white female) and while my family isnt quite cult levels of religious they are still very traditional. The irony is that i was never truly happy until i left religion out of my life completely. My boyfriend is an Atheist as well, and im now happier than i could ever have hoped. Good on OP for not letting the cult trap her in misery forever.
Story 2: Honestly good on the mother for being open minded about OP choices but the entitled aunt need to accept OP love life. Seriously I keep hearing horrible stories about these quote 'pray the gay the away' therapy houses and it's not good at all.
I think she ment she wants to control ops love style
By "family" and blah blah
She needs to be in a psycos thrarapy to at least say
Oh ok under standble
Conversion "therapy" is not only useless, but it's downright dangerous. Any parent who subjects their children to this abuse needs to be jailed. Screw religious stupidity, it's abuse. I'm glad that Australia & other relatively enlightened countries are banning it.
Same with the grandma. Bless her heart.
Yes, I found the whole family accepting him to be wholesome. Too bad the aunt tried to ruin it. I am the same way as the mother. If I ever have a kid and they say they are gay/ bi, or even trans. I will hug them and say I will love and support them no matter what.
Those houses shouldn't even be LEGAL.
8:39 “You just haven’t met the right girl yet!”
And *that’s* the part where OP could (and should) have said: “Maybe so, but it definitely seems like I found the right guy already.”
As someone who came out at 17...wow am I glad NONE of my family did that! Everyone just responded when I told them "oh you finally came out? About time" (jokingly, they all support me)
Me and my brother actually punched some ass in the face because he was harassing my cousin for being gay. The saddest part was my cousin thought we wouldn’t approve of him being gay, ya right the whole family knew and approved and all of his cousins were told to stand up for him if anyone wanted to antagonize him.😂. He had a whole family of guardian angels
Story #2 - I wonder if entitled aunt knows that as of a few years ago, “conversion therapy” is illegal in Canada
It shoulda been illegal from the very fucking beginning of human history.
Hell, it should NEVER have been invented PERIOD!
Story 1: OP's fiance should have told Karen, "I will never marry your daughter because that would make *YOU* my mother-in-law, and that isn't going to happen.
Story 1 - Oh my gosh… What a witch mother. Forcing a random stranger to ‘date her daughter’ when he’s already engaged and had his fiancé with him. At least her daughter has common sense and apologized for her Mother’s actions.
Should've replied to her ... "The Lord Rebuke you Satan.!"
@@keithsantana145 Or "How much does she charge? I mean, you're out here pimping her, after all, so..."
Gods I can’t even imagine how often that mother humiliates her daughter on a regular basis!! I wouldn’t blame that poor girl for wanting to fade out of existence after this.
@@karenbaldwin2867 Me neither
Welcome to wonderfull "diverse" 21st century Britain where people of all ethnic backgrounds want to come........and become British - yeah right !, THIS right here is the problem, those same people dont WANT to fit into our society and have no desire to, all congregating in small areas that eventually become ethnic no go ghettos...they want OUR western society and all its financial benefits......but with US not in it. they didnt come three thousand miles to assimilate they come to REPLACE !...........and somehow WE are the racists.
Story 3 - Wooooow… This story was COMPLETELY INSANE! And so are OP’s family and guy #1 family. I’m glad that OP is happy now.
Story 1: Imagine how much that Karen’s jaw would have dropped if the fiancé had told her he was half white. 😂
Pre diluted
EM- "How could you turn down my daughter? Is she not pretty enough?"
F- "No, she has a crazy mother who is push and a control freak. There's no way I'm marrying into that family."
Doubt the distance of the drop by afterwards lying about the OP being half asian.
Religion is poison. That last story proves it.
@@myrixica4222OP is white, her fiancé is (presumed) half white/confirmed half Asian.
Last story, God does take more than a week to answer our prayers. He's telling us to have patience or that we're not ready yet.
Story 1: Imagine having a mother who thinks at 18 you should be so desperate to get married, that you should approach strangers. The poor young lady probably gets loads of emotional abuse at home.
First story: I agree with DarkFluff, while Karen's daughter might be a great person and very desirable for dating/marrying, the fact that she comes with Karen as a MIL overshadows everything else with a Godzilla sized red flag that is Karen. Once any perspective guy meets Karen they will eventually leave the daughter and go for someone easier/safer to be with that doesn't come with a Karenzilla.
And you just know that the Karen Mom won't consider in the slightest that SHE is the reason for any of that if/when it happens...
Pretty sure that daughter had enough of her Karen mom, moved out, and cut her off. Even she can’t deal with her anymore either any more than Op, and the poor girl has to live with that crazy lady
They said that the guy in story 1 was half-Asian, right? So he already is a perfect example of how multi-racial relationships can have good results (even if his parents didn’t stay together, they had him). He should have told that Karen that.
Not that the Asian Karen would have listened.
Story 1 - I feel really bad for the daughter. She took her shot, got (politely) shot down, and handled it all like a mature adult. “Sorry to bother you, congratz, I’m out.” Many actual adults would have handled that less well. Case in point: Karen.
They aren't Barbies. They are action figures that like to wear pink and look fabulous
Should have told the mother in the first story that there was nothing wrong with her daughter but the thought of being related to her sounds awful.
Story 2: Okay, why didn’t the mother stop the aunt from harassing op like that? If that were me, my mom would’ve been all up in her face berating her to not treat her son like that.
The last story sounds like a Girl I wanted to date at an old job, but her Family were Hardcore Mormon, and I was Non-Denominational Christian at the time. (I'm ANTI-Religious now)
I hope she's doing Well, because her Family sounded COMPLETELY TOXIC, and REALLY grapey!
To me, She's the One That Got Away.
OP2: BADASS GRANNY SIGHTING!!!
We all love badass granny.
That happened to me too, several times! My fiance is also Far East Asian, and each time it happened it was other Far East Asians (not from his country though) who had seen him arm and arm with me (white girl), shot me daggers and proceeded to bring their daughters over to him to ask him if he'd date them. They were sooo mad when he told them he was with me, glaring at me angrily the whole time like I'd committed some mortal sin. Been with him over 21 years now and the only racism we've ever had is from Chinese mums lol.
why do asians view Europeans and those who has European ancestry as white. they are more pale than most so called white people.
China is pretty d@mn xenophobic. You should look up the hoops foreigners have to jump through to live in China. It's absolutely insane.
Gay trans girl here. I was in a relationship with a black trans woman a year and a half ago, and neither of us ever got any hate for being an interracial T4T sapphic couple when we were together. Nobody called me a N-word lover or anything. Nor did she get any racist hate for it. She had been married to a white woman years before she transitioned; if they ever got any hate for it, I'm not aware of it.
You don't fall for the ethnicity/race/whatever. You fall for the person. As long as the two of you are happy together, that's all that matters. To hell with anyone who says otherwise.
If I were to date a sapphic Asian girl, I wouldn't care what other Asian people think. I don't care what anybody thinks. As long as she's not a longsword lesbian*, TERF, or transmedicalist, it's all good.
*Longsword lesbians are binary she/her lesbians who refuse to date anyone who's not a binary she/her woman who's exclusively attracted to other women. They won't date bisexual or pansexual women, sapphics on the asexual spectrum, nonbinary lesbians, or pronoun-nonconforming lesbians (such as he/him lesbians). The gay male equivalent is a gravity knife gay. They erase other members of the LGBTQIA+ community, and in doing so, erase themselves as well.
@@DarDarBinks1986The longsword/gravity knife thing is just as mind-blowing for me as any of the other stories in today's video! I know it shouldn't surprise me that it exists, but it's so hard to understand.
@@rebeccacarr5154 And then you have transmedicalists a.k.a. truscum. These people want to drag us back to the pre-2011 Harry Benjamin rules for treating trans people like me.
Some history: Dr. Harry Benjamin was an endocrinologist and early advocate for transgender people during the 20th century. His work began in the 1940s and continued until his death in 1986. Benjamin created a six-tier scale that he used to group his patients according to their level of sexual dysfunction and misery. If you didn't land on Tier 5 or 6, classified as "True Transsexual" (that was the language used back then), you were often deemed a fake or crossdresser and denied treatment.
Dr. Benjamin's scale was very limiting to trans patients. By his rules, you had to have known you were trans since childhood, have intense physical dysphoria, demand medical transition (including gender-affirming surgery), and be attracted to members of your assigned sex. He believed that transition had to make you straight, not gay, bi, or pansexual. You also had to live as your true gender for at least a year before you could access treatment in those days. A trans woman could risk losing her estrogen if she went to the doctor wearing a t-shirt and jeans instead of a dress. A trans man could lose his testosterone if he didn't act "manly enough" in the eyes of his doctor. And nonbinary people weren't considered.
The old Benjamin scale was thankfully scrapped in 2011 when the WPATH (World Professional Association for Transgender Health) adopted a whole new Standards of Care. It helped that they actually consulted trans people this time around. At that point, WPATH started focusing on specific individual symptoms and divorced gender identity from sexual orientation altogether.
If this history makes it sound like transmedicalism is a supremacist concept, that's because it is. Transmedicalists want to reinforce the old Benjamin rules and require more gatekeeping than we have now. They even rail against nonbinary people using the transgender label and want to see fewer people receiving treatment for gender dysphoria, elevating the needs of binary trans people over any other gender identity. This movement began among trans Boomers who resent that the younger generation has easier access to what said Boomers often had to act, lie, and manipulate to achieve. Transmedicalism has spread to younger trans people, unfortunately, especially young trans men. Even transfems aren't immune to this line of thinking (e.g., Blaire White).
If a trans person's first exposure to transness is through a transmedicalist, this can severely set back their own self-confidence and push them deeper into the closet. Transmedicalists will bully and gaslight anyone who doesn't think like they do. They've even been known to tell people, "No, you're not trans."
To any trans person reading this: DO NOT BELIEVE THOSE LIES! They are bully tactics designed to gaslight and minimize people's pain for self-gratification. Don't let transmedicalists try to gatekeep you with their "No true Scotsman" fallacies!
That final story was horrifying. I'm so glad she got out.
Third story: this is why the founding fathers created "freedom of religion".
I actually had someone once try to argue with me that atheism/areligiosity is "constitutionally illegal" specifically because it says "freedom OF religion", not "freedom FROM religion... therefore I could choose any religion I wanted, but I HAD to pick one.
It was an incredibly stupid argument. 😂
@@illuminocalypse5210 Yes, being forced to choose a religion is a crime against democracy and freedom of speech.
"If I married your daughter then I'd end up seeing you again and that would be a fate worse than death."
First story, I would have told karen that i wouldn't want to marry her daughter because I don't want her for a monster in law!
Entitled Aunt Story: I think what Auntie needs is a big fat No Contact Restraining Order against her from OP...
Story 1: honestly, that woman was being racist. Good luck to her daughter, I hope she gets things figured out with her mom. I doubt it though
Story 2: "you just haven't found the right girl yet" is such a gross thing to say to someone who is gay. Okay Karen, you don't like women? It's just because you haven't found the right woman yet! I'm sure you'll change your mind once she comes around! Also, conversion therapy is illegal in Canada because it's abuse and doesn't work. The states needs to follow suit.
Story 3: I remember this one, I'm so glad OP managed to get out of the cult
Story 2: Wow, wearing purple makes one gay. Didn't realize Minnesota was the gayest state in the US. You go Viking, show your pride! Lol
That’s why there’s horns on the helmets.
@@TheSjuris Vikings only wore horned helmets for rituals and ceremonies, never for battle. The blame goes to a certain opera for perpetuating that myth.
@@JamesDavy2009 so tell me were there Minnesota Vikings in Norway? Or maybe comprehension isn’t your strong suit.
@@JamesDavy2009 Horned helmets did not exist at all with vikings. Not even ceremony. Horned helmets found in scandanavia were from before the vikings.
@@lordnazar6382 Thank you. As a historian and reenactor I can confirm this. Vikings helmets had no horns. It's too much of a pain in the rear end when you have to whip around and you end up off balance simply because your helmet came loose, double that for anything metal sticking up from it. Helmet is meant to protect the head, not throw you off balance.
On the first story, wow, that is one NUT CASE of a mother.
The third story gave me culture shock it felt like it was from a different century.
First story- Wow! That mother is awful and such a racist! Her poor daughter, she must have been mortified! 😢
That cult mom story actually gave me anxiety because I actually knew people like that (I'm related to some of them). I'm thankful that my part of the family was a little more secular, because every time my grandma took me to visit them on Sundays, I always felt so uncomfortable, and I didn't know until I got a lot older why I got bad vibes from them.
For story 2 and me being a smart ass at the time of age lol i would have told my aunt "what you never heard of a Homie kiss" just to see her reaction 😅
Me and my dad are sarcastic aholes. If one of my family members disproves of who I love (thank goodness they are all open minded) you can bet they would receive a bitting comeback
@@bleachfan2.029 gotta love Aholes we need to stick together to fight the Karen's
@@drakofox1362 true but unfortunately for me it’s gotten me in trouble at work too😬 because my brain thinks the sarcastic remarks and my mouth says it before my brain can say “wait don’t say it out loud”.😂. Still the looks on the Karen’s faces is priceless plus my boss is pretty understanding.
@@bleachfan2.029 lucky my boss always just laughs after I tell her the story she hates Karen's because she started in my position at the register
@@drakofox1362 same with my boss, with him you really have to screw up because he’s been the cashier too
After hearing story 3 all I can think about it the demon with the blue maw "Your god is not here, and he does not love you"
Ooh, that is perfect.
Castlevania. Personally, I would've quoted Pinhead and told her, "DO I LOOK LIKE SOMEONE THAT CARES WHAT GOD THINKS?!?"
Story #3 sounds very much like one of the Duggar girls' story! Seriously! I think it was Jill's story with some of the details turned around or exaggerated. I literally just read her book and thats pretty much word for word what happened in the book and she's been married since 2014. Crazy!!
He's a chicken, he's a chicken. He's a big whiney man. And he's never just happy. It's too hot or it's too cold. It's too sweet or too salt. It's never right but always wrong! Give him King, he wants Stella. Give him wine, he wants a beer. Do you like Esterella, he plays Sister Smile. He's a chicken, he's a chicken. He's a big whiney man. And he's never just happy. It's too hot or it's too cold. It's too sweet or too salt. It's never right but always wrong!
Story 1: To the statement about Asians and traditions, if I were him, I would reply, "I'm sorry to disappoint you, but that tradition has already been broken by my parents, since I have a white parent, so I'm just following their lead."
But I'm afraid even that would get a racist response, which would then include the parents. Some people are just too stubborn in their opinions.
1st story: He's a bit of a fixer-upper. He's got a couple of flaws. His quote "engagement " is a flex arrangement. His brain's a bit betwixt. Get the fiance out of the way, and the whole thing will be fixed. 😂 Clearly the Karen is a troll.
#1: Sounds like the mother-in-law from Hades, feel sorry for the young lady. #3: Hard to believe there are still families that treat their children like this. They absolutely decide how their children's lives will happen.
Date my daughter story: I feel extremely sorry for that woman's daughter and son. Good grief!
The main reason for NOT dating the young lady in story #1 is that he would end up with the crazy lady for a mother-in-law!
I think that should be the second reason.
First reason? HE'S ALREADY ENGAGED! And his Fiance was RIGHT THERE.
Plus he already is of racially mixed blood (half white, half Asian).
@@audreyricci6383 Why the hatred for mixed-race people? It's so illogical.
@@JamesDavy2009 Cuz they're not "pure"
story 1: I have to wonder what that girl was doing hitting on a man nearly twice her age
Her mother probably made her
Story 3: at some point, OP needs to just say “fuck God, hail Satan” to her parents and everyone in earshot
She'd probably have been beaten.
Oh no. I hope you’re kidding. Yes, the parents were horrible, but selling your soul to Satan? There are no “backsies” with that Demon. No “takebacks”. Just ask Katy Perry. Or Lady Gaga. Or Taylor Swift.
Great idea! You should go try it out to test out how effective it is!!! Start in Saudi Arabia!!!
I'd have said: "Your god died on a fucking cross. Thor carried a hammer and slew giants with it."
As much as i love the idea, i think you're forgetting how dangerous doing that in a cult is. Some religious extremists are not above physical abuse, or even murder, when it comes to their beliefs.
I read the 3rd story a while ago, somewhere else. Again, it shows just how crazy some people are in the world. Also, story 1, I am transgender, and I would have loved to see EK's reaction to that! 👩🦳
Pff she would have a heart attack lol
DarkFluff has another video with the same story in it.
Same. I think I heard this story from a different reddit story channel years ago.
So many people get uber worked up about what are actually "Nunya issues." As in "Nunya bidness!"
That mom in the first story almost went The Fourteen Words on that guy.
I actually breathed a sigh of relief after the last story.
I honestly love your channel because out of people reading all of these entitled people stories you show more emotion than any other channel who does the same thing that I've seen
Check out Rebecca Rogers. She shows plenty of emotion. She does AITA videos.
1st story: the mothe's attitude could be considered harrassment. The SO could have stated that towards the mother.
last story… I'm so glad you got out of that situation! I hope your life is a lot better now! ❤Good luck out there!
About the last story. There are parts of the world where arranged marriages are very common, and in "western" countries arranged marriages used to be more common than they are now. I'm not saying arranged marriages always work out well, I'm just saying that the current "western" way of marriage hasn't always been as common as people today might think.
I've got no problems with arranged marriages. But I do with forced marriages. It is up to the couple in question to make a decision whether they should enter the relationship, not forcing one of them into it as bartered property.
I played with barbies amd use highheels, hell I teach my older sister to walk with high heels.
And im hetero, some people are truly moronic from birth.
Fun fact: High heels were originally men's shoes. They started in medieval Persia as riding shoes, with the heel hooking into your stirrups when riding a horse. Then they spread into Europe, where noblemen and aristocratic men went apeshit over them. Even as late as the 18th century, men wore heels, including the Founding Fathers of the U.S. It's where we get the expression "well-heeled" from, referring to someone in a position of wealth or authority.
Blame 19th century dandies such as Beau Brummell for ruining men's fashion. Menswear stagnated for over 200 years because of people like him. That and the French Revolution. All the flamboyant men's fashions that were popular among the ancient régime went down the shitter due to the French First Republic and First Empire. If you wore that shit around the Jacobins, they'd have given you the same reaction as if you wore a non-Philly team's jersey into a Philly sports bar. In the U.S., the Great Male Renunciation that started in Europe was associated with American republicanism. Ben Franklin gave up his powdered wig during the American Revolution. Later on, in 1840, Charles Ogle, a Whig congressman from Pennsylvania, gave his Gold Spoon Oration, a speech denouncing the flamboyant lifestyle of Martin Van Buren.
I'm a cis straight male (okay, call it 0.04 on the Kinsey scale) and I love lots of traditionally feminine things. I will forever have an empty spot on my shoulder where a sleepy baby's head belongs. And if people weren't such buttholes, I would totally be rocking tall boots, jeggings and tuinc tops.
I'll probably just say "I don't want a Karen for a mother in law"
That last story HAS to be from an old school Morman family
Thanks Dark Fluff. Listening to you on an ambulance transport. I enjoy your content daily.
Hope for a speedy recovery 😁
Aunt Karen needs therapy in minding her own chuffin’ business.
Facts bud love is love no one should get in that way no matter what
“Chuffin” that’s a new one
@@tableswithoutchairs1168 A good Yorkshire expression 😀
She has to mind everyone else's business because she has no life of her own.
she needs a good hour of slap therapy from a drill sergeant.
Story 2: Grandma, Grandpa, siblings, uncle, cousin and Mum are amazing and OP has a beautiful loving family (barring one aunt who is obviously not really family).
Man RUclips needs to deal with these bots
What bots?
@@Badbirdie I'm guessing emoji bots.
@@Badbirdie If no avatar normally a bot.
@@Badbirdie look at the pfp of some of the comments, they have lewd pictures of women trying to get you to click on their channels
OP in that last story was most definitely rescued. I know people personally who have horror stories about those "cults."
Her being rescued also reminded me: If you go to the animal shelter and rescue a pet, you're a hero. But if you go to the women's shelter looking for a date, that's a problem? 😂
S1
At the point of the mother marching up and demanding a reason why fiance wont date her daughter, I'd've hit her with "well I have my reasons, but a brand new one is: I would never want to marry into a family with YOU in it"
Story 3 is not only the most boring story I have ever heard, it also makes me super grateful for my own culture
I found it more scary than boring. If I'm going to suffer the consequences of a bad decision, then I want to at least have the freedom to make it.
Story 1; I have seen (Asian) mothers going door to door with their daughters looking for a husband. While unorthodox to most, not unheard of. This mother, however, took it to a whole new level. If anyone is shaming their family, it is her.
Story 2; as a gay man, I have to really restrain myself to not slap smart anyone who dares to suggest conversion therapy. It has been made illegal where I am, and am hope other places follow suit. That aunt is about to find herself the family pariah. Would serve her right if any of her kids were lgbt.
Story 3; the whole thing is creepy. My main retort would be to the other family’s mum. When she says any relationship between a woman and a man is cheating, I would have asked “so how do you feel about your husband cheating on you with me?” Since the two are engaging and not (married) family yet, by the mothers logic it is a relationship. Moreover, he is having relationships with many women, since he probably speaks to a lot of women.
Story 1. Anyone else bet there were a fair amount of redditers foaming at the mouth at the age difference between Op and her fiancee?
I was 😅
8 yrs difference... is that a lot or did I miss something?
@@ChildofVitalani more like a least a decade
33 - 18 = 15
@@star-boltlover9609 Op is 25, her fiance is 33 ... 33-25=8 ... Not sure where you got the 18 from?
@@ChildofVitalani I thought you were talking about the daughter! My bad 😅
For the first story:
OP said her fiancee was a 33 m, the EM had a daughter that was about 17f ........33m 17f, am I the only one that realizes this is the MAIN reason why he can't get married to her.
Story 2 I like how the whole family knew and supported him and expected him except that 1 aunt, that’s how family should be in my mind plus sounds like a great fun loving family. For me was when he told his mum and she just hugged him and told him she loved him.
It sounds like the OP in courtship story are IBLP. I recommend the documentary "Shiny, Happy People if you are interested in learning more about it, on the surface they appear like perfect Christian families but there's a lot of abuse underneath it all.
I learned about a Christian Church who did beautiful praise. But the young people (12 to 18) were raised with a lot of guilt and secret relationships. They all shouted love for the Lord, adults punished eachother harshly when they went off track and all of them had a secret life. They expected at least 10 percent of your pay check
Okay, that first mom is crazy. That poor daughter!
#1-at what point do you tell someone to get the hell away or you'll call the police?! That poor daughter.
The amount of people I’ve met who have run away from an arranged marriage is unbelievable ! A lot of the women are victims of abuse from their husbands, as are their children.
There is no hate like Christian love.
This was a cult. A cult.
@@mbyerly9680 They may have been referring to the crazy aunt story, not the cup story
Saint John the Apostle said it best in one of his epicles No one who says he loves God, but hates his fellow man, is a Christian. Unfortunately there are phony people in every segment of life (secular or religious) who just love to virtual signal. Man looks upon the outer form but God reads the heart. He ain't fooled by some people's 🐂💩 and they're going to get a VERY nasty surprise come Judgement Day. IE, the separation of Sheep from Goats parable.
@@mbyerly9680A cult, derived from the megacult that is Christianity, all religions started as cults after all
@@brendanboomhour7606 Yup, Christianity started out as the Cult of Saints, which morphed into Catholicism. Of course, since religions can barely tolerate the ideals of other religions, its inevitable that when one gets too large, disagreements in interpretations of the lore and how they should be applied cause the religion to split and branch out into other denominations. Its all well and good until they try to smear their religion all over you and/or force feed it into the impressionable minds of their offspring.
Playing with barbies and, even more absurd, wearing purple? EA should go stand in the garage until she turns into a car. 😂
12:59 - All this talk about a woman needing "permission" from the primary man in her life is making me sick!
OP1: I don't even think that's entitled. It's insane.
Last story. Glad it ended as it did. Her parents were not toooo bad
Conversion therapy should be illegal!
Gotta love OP’s grandma in the second one!
Story 3: it seems like guy #1 had the potential to be a good, decent person but that he was being ruined by his awful family and their awful religion. Very sad.
7:10 "friends don't kiss each other on the cheek"... As italian, I am deeply offended by this.
One of the worst parts of all stories is the fact that girl was in a cult. Cults are sad
Every religion is a cult.
If TALKING to a man is considered a relationship, hence cheating on your man... dear god: OP shouldn't even THINK about talking to a women. I mean that would be a relationship with another women. xD
Do i even want to know what kind of cult it was?
It does not matter their creed, all religions are cults.
i think i read the other day that all type of "conversion terapi" is illigal in norway and if living in norway it would be illigal to go to another country and have it done to someone to.
The last story it sounded like God Sent Guy #2 to rescue OP he works in mysterious ways but I still think he could have been sent by God.
I can agree with that.
Totally agree
S3: OP needed to run far, FAR away from her family, from the cult they’re in, from the church, everything! That’s completely freaking insane!
That last one was totally bonkers!😳😳😳
Story 1: I almost expected him to shout, "My MOTHER (or father) is white!"
Story 2: Bigot aunt but you should've told her for the pure fact your partner could've been the person you threw under the bus for all you know. Your aunt could've gone after them not you.
Just sat down from doing yard work and found a new fluff video. Yay!!🎉
Take a drink each time an op (or any victim of entitled people) has anxiety issues. Its so cliche that its sad
Story 3: women and children are NOT property
Certain cultists (crescent cultists mostly) believe otherwise; especially those from a kingdom that flies a green flag that bears a sword and an abjad script.
Hopefully her future husband finds out about the crazy MIL before he marries her. Thus he can decide to leave or go full no contact.