Fun fact: "Elohim" is actually a plural form, the singular form is "El" Just like how "Seraphim" is plural and the singular form is "Seraph" and how "Cherubim" is also a plural of "Cherub"
@@chargemankent another fun fact: angels are actually minor deities, messengers or intermediaries of god/gods. Similar to the daemons, the genius or guardian spirits. Angels were messengers of El/Yahweh, and weren’t winged but seraphim and cherubim were described with wings and animal heads. Angel simply means “messenger” and didn’t denote a specific supernatural entity
I'm so glad you're a content creator bc these vids have not only distracted me from issues in my life that I can't control, but also it's very informative and helps me understand the context for religious peoples views and cultists views.
man are also gods I cor 8 v 5. an how can man made god ,or not ,it is not for you to want God as you like ,you want jessus to be god , but jessus dont want to be your god ,he want you to worship his father ,that he said to satan you must worship only Jehovah God.
It is AMAZING how so many of us former JWs have similar childhood experiences. I was terrified of the dark as a kid (admittedly, at 35 I still sleep with at least one light on near by, but that’s neither here nor there). Anyways, I did the EXACT same thing every time I turned the lights off in the basement and ran up the stairs in the dark or every time I had to get up in the middle of the night and couldn’t turn a light on or any scenario like that. I’d just go around saying “Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah” like it was was some magical charm to ward off demons. It’s SO ingrained in me that even today, as an educated adult and firm atheist, I still catch myself thinking it when I’m afraid of something. That’s cult life for you and why it’s so hard to break some people free of ingrained habits.
@@Beanmachine91 treat myself to a lava lamp? What do you mean? I have one btw. Like a real one I had to import from the UK from the actual company that makes the real ones. Do you mean use it as a night light? Not a bad idea actually.
Yes, that was the teaching. Calling on the name of Jehovah would scare the demons away. And for some time during my experience I believed it worked. Then when I woke up to the cult and started pulling away from them, I began to have more nightmare even while calling Jehovah's name. I refused to see it as punishment for doubting and researching. My persistence with spiritual research and pulling away from the org mentally won over. It's been a while since the floating and shaking beds. Although you are a "firm atheist", but locked on the name of Jehovah, trying to call on the name of Jesus instead during those moments. And if it feels odd to your b/c of years of training, you say "jesus in the name of the father of Jehovah". Can't hurt since you are already calling out a name. As JW, they only brough out Jesus name to claim that they are christians and to show christ as leader with the many books that they published on him. But really, access to the true father was always blocked by the GB. Even if you are no longer a believer, try replacing the name.
I had a discussion with a JW shortly after my wife's life had been saved by means of a blood transfusion. His take was that the Bible instructs them to not take blood. I asked if he was a vegetarian or vegan. Negative. My suggestion that he DOES take blood by eating flesh came with this response;..."Well, it's only a little bit'. Stupid, or what???
“Only, you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.” (Genesis 9:4 NRSV-CI) Literally read it means not to eat flesh with blood still in it, likely referring to rare meat.
@@juliaboon9741 oh heavens. I'd rather just not go down a rabbit hole and speculate altogether. I propose we question how much of the Bible's different commands and instructions from hundreds of years ago are still relevant and should even apply in today's culture. I was raised in a very old-fashioned, conservative Christian family and struggle with this topic, especially when I consider that the Bible has many different versions and translations and was not physically written by God or Jesus personally. There have been many contradictions from the Bible that have been pointed out and far too many nutty theories that have been assumed, stretched and taken far out of the original context. What is to be the punishment for violating each of these instructions like eating bottom-dwelling sea creatures etc and what punishments have allegedly came to pass across time as they were violated? I don't think any of us will have any concrete answers until we die.
@@Digital_David Well. Those laws regarding clean and unclean animals are generally regarded by Christians as being part of the old “Mosaic” law and were either supplanted by Christ or fulfilled by Christ. Which is yet another reason why JWs obsession with not consuming blood is strange when considering their relationship with Christianity at large.
Great video as always dude. I live in a small conservative town, and your videos make me feel like I'm not the only atheist out there. Keep up the awesome work
As someone who grew up Orthodox Jewish, half my school days were dedicated to studying the Bible--both the original ancient Hebrew and the millennia of commentary and analysis. The tetragrammaton is present all over the bible: there was no conspiracy to remove it. We were *never* taught how to pronounce יהוה because you are never supposed to pronounce god's *real* name. We were actually taught that there are many such "hidden names," all of which had tremendous power, including a 72-letter name that Moses purportedly used to split the red sea. Knowledge of these names is restricted to the holiest of people, and their use by a lesser person is grounds for your soul being cut off from heaven. As such, even though the name is written out in its entirety across the Torah, you will never hear a Jewish person pronounce it as anything other than "Adonai." Even *that* is treated with respect: you are only supposed to say when reciting a prayer or ritualistically reading from the Torah during services. In common parlance, you say "Hashem," meaning "the name." So I have no idea where JW get this bizarre obsession with deliberately pronouncing the name "as written," despite there being no accepted way to pronounce it, and several thousand years of tradition explaining why trying to do so is one of the worst things you can do. (Also, you should do a BITE model episode examining the cultishness of Orthodox Judaism because it is WILD.)
When Owen did his "Is X a cult" series, judaism was determined "not a cult" because there are secular and even atheistic jews. You should watch Drew from GeneticModifiedSkeptic and his video when he traveled to Beneberak foran examination. In my opinion, orthodox judaism isn't a cult, but an umbrella for many different cults (or sects, the more common term), these are broken down to hassidic sects, and litvak (or, opposing) sects.
@Christa Simon Well obviously the Jewish belief system has nothing to do with Jesus so the idea of Jesus "opening up heaven" was a later Christian invention. Jewish afterlife is kind of complex and vaguely described. The basic conception that I grew up with is that essentially everyone gets heaven, but there are different "levels" of heaven. The more pious you are, the closer you are to God in the world to come. There's no permanent "hell": more like a cleansing process tailored to your earthly shortcomings, after which you end up in heaven eventually. There are very specific sins that can get a Jew's soul "cut off," which itself is a punishment with a variety of outcomes: it could be an early death, being childless, being separated from your people in the afterlife, or even getting no afterlife at all. This punishment can be earned for deliberately committing specific sins like eating leavened bread on Passover, incest, worshipping false gods, not being circumcised, having sex with a woman who is menstruating, and especially cursing God using one of those "special names." Note that all of this only applies to Jews. In the Jewish belief system, all non-Jews have to do to get into heaven is a couple of pretty obvious things, like not be murderers. That's why you don't see Jews proselytizing, and even turning away prospective converts: it's way harder to get into heaven as a Jew than as a non-Jew, so trying to convince people to join is just setting them up for failure.
@@adrianblake8876 The reason I specified *Orthodox* Judaism is because yes, there are plenty of non-crazy sects of Judaism (reform, conservative, etc.). In my experience, Orthodox Judaism itself encompasses all the sects that operate like a cult. Even the "modern orthodox" community I grew up in was incredibly concerning, despite being willing to make "concessions" like allowing cell phones. In terms of behavior control alone, it's one of the most controlling religious beliefs out there. Everything Orthodox Jews do every second of the day is regimented by the religion, down to the order you're supposed to tie your shoes (left first, then right, because the right side is "more holy," and you should always be going up in holiness). Thought control and emotion control are also incredibly fierce and all-encompassing, with multiple hours every day dedicated to prayers, measures to make sure you're constantly thinking about the religion, etc. The least overbearing category is information control, particularly in modern orthodoxy, where you're perfectly allowed to accept that evolution is real (the 7 "days" of creation were metaphorical and therefore reconcilable with the billions of years we can clearly see happened).
If I may ask a question, too. I have heard that a Jewish person's name is their legacy. How you are remembered is your eternity. Could you please help me to understand this better? Thanks
I grew up Catholic, and was closely part of the church for the majority of my life. I was NEVER tought about the Canaanite gods or the origin of Yahweh. This is seriously shocking to me. Keep it up dude.
The Catholic Church doesn't teach you anything except to pray to a "Mary" as your Mediatrix and Savior. I went to Catholic School for years and was just as dumb when I came out as when I went in!
My favorite thing to do when they come to my house is calling them Mormons then when they correct me I just ignore it. Sometimes saying things like, "there's a difference?" Or "does it matter?" They get so pissed.
Hey Owen, in the future I hope you can talk about Zoroastrianism and it’s influence on the creation of Christianity. It’s actually pretty fascinating and it’s not hard to see just how many foundational Christian beliefs came from Zoroastrianism.
Are you referring to the influence that Zoroastrianism had on Judaism, which then obviously also affected Christianity, or is there a different layer of influence that I‘m unaware of?
@@algepaca Yes, you are correct Zoroastrianism had its effects on Judaism, additionally it had effects on Christianity because Zoroastrianism continued to exist along side both and also had effects on what would become Islam.
@@Kain59242 Right, I know about the influences on Islam, but can you give some examples for influences on Christianity, apart from the ones that were present in Judaism?
@@algepaca I know of the connection between virgin birth and the fight of good VS evil with God eventually winning over it. Also and I could be wrong here and misremembering it but I am fairly certain that the 3 wise men were actually Zoroastrian. Magi? I think?
Great video. Thanks Telltale. As a former JW, I appreciate your videos. Keep up the good work. I wish RUclips had existed 30 years ago. Would've saved me a lot of grief.
@@finalscorce yes because Jehovah protects those who are trying to reach him. But if your just saying hise name just to ward demons off its not all he wants he wants you to serve him and grow your relationship with him.
Hey guys, linguist here. Thank you Tell Tale for making videos like this! I just want to correct something. When the "yehowah" name entered Germanic speaking regions, it's not that they pronounced y as j, it's that they SPELL the y sound with a j. Similarly, most Germanic languages do not have the same w sound that English does and the closest they get is the v sound. Although they have w the letter is most Germanic languages, it's usually pronounced as v, and they also usually have the v letter which may or may not be pronounced they way English speakers pronounce the letter v. So, when Germans etc spelled the name as "jehova" it would have been pronounced as an English speaker would read "Yehova." English and French are the only languages around there that pronounce j the letter as j the sound as in judge. It would have been when this spelling (Jehova) entered one of those two languages that the j was actually pronounced the way we hear Jehova's witnesses pronounce it. Just my thoughts for minor clarification.
j originated as a variant of i when the sound was used more like an enligh consonant y than an the vowel i, mostly at the beginning of a word. Iesus is another example of that. It would have been pronounced like a y in most languages until that sound eventually evolved to be more like the j sounds that English and French use today, and at that point the letter j in those languages came to specifically represent the j (as in judge) sound, not just a varient of i.
So, it's not that those other Germanic languages changed the pronunciation when they spelled it "Jehova" it's that that spelling sounded pretty much like "Yahowa." the pronunciation changed when the "Jehova" spelling reached languages that pronounce j as j as in junior, i.e. English and probably French.
Modern Christianity is a classic example of what happens when the authors of a fantasy franchise die, the OG publishers gradually lose control of their IP copyrights to piracy, and 2000 years of bad fan-fic creeps into the canon
Good thing to note is that the metallurgy origin for Yahweh is just a theory based on similarities with other cultures' metallurgy gods, and not yet accepted in mainstream religious studies. I think the more mainstream take, though also still a theory, (which is not mutually exclusive with the metallurgy hypothesis) is that Yahweh was originally the Midianite god Yahoo, who was adopted by a small group of people who would eventually contribute to the Israelite ethnogenesis. Also, the use of names like Elohim and El does not mean the people who wrote the Bible were worshipping Canaanite gods. At one point, of course, they did, since the Israelites are descended from Canaanites who moved to the central highlands during the late Bronze Age Collapse. However, most of the Bible was composed well after that, and these names were simply still in use to refer to the Israelite God. Though El could refer to a specific Canaanite god, it was also just a word that meant God. It's complicated and nuanced though, so it is likely that at some points in the Bible Elohim is referring to a council of Gods. It's also likely that Yahweh took a lot of influence from Canaanite gods, specifically Baal.
@@andreotchere6456 my post was purely what the textual and archaeological evidence suggests, and not what the Bible says. This is just the historical perspective, and by no means something anyone has to accept as religiously true. There is no archaeological evidence that I’m aware of that provides evidence for Ham and Shem, so historians, when doing peer-reviewed historical work, don’t tend to promote that idea. That doesn’t mean it’s invalid in a religious context, though!
@@violetking4822 understandable, my question then is what motivated archaeologist to look into the lineage of Canaanites and israelites if religion was not included and What makes them so credible so as not to be questioned.
My other thing is people discredit the Bible due to its age if that's the case then couldn't I make the claim that all other forms of history are inaccurate due to age as well
I find it interesting that Lot's wife was punished for looking back @the city, yet Lot was spared even after offering his 2 daughters to be gang raped by the same city?
In the Bible, it said "worship no other gods but me" or smth like that, and it doesn't disprove the existence of other deities at all. It just says that God doesn't want his followers to worship others. Early Christians and other groups of people were omnist. I'm an omnist, too, which means that I believe that all deities exist in their own way. It doesn't mean I worship all of them.
Anyone in the UK been receiving handwritten letters in the post from JW's lately? I've had a couple over the last year. No name on the envelope, just the address. Yesterday, my mum in another area, got one. Wondering if they're being directed to do this because door knocking during the pandemic is not a great idea, both for them and whoever is answering the door? I find it a bit creepy. Even though the letters are just generic Bible stuff, it still weirds me out. Feels like a bit of an invasion of privacy to me as well. You can believe what you want, but keep your beliefs to yourself.
Weirdly I get fake handwritten letters, fonts that look like handwriting, from all sorts of churches but the ones that piss me off the most is the door hangers. Neighbors just throw them on the ground. Maintenance doesn’t clean them up. There’s been one sitting on the ground at the next apartment behind me for at least a month. On the one hand, some of my neighbors are pigs. On the other hand, they blow off doors when it’s windy because we have breezeways rather than hallways. On the third hand, stop putting unwanted trash on my door.
More people can play that game. Find the gospel of Judas (was much of the text as can be found) and use it to write something that looks like sorcery. Put in their address on the paper and deliver it to them (no name of course). Do that until they stop.
Yes! I live in England, and I received one the other day, from someone just down the street from me. I found it intrusive and annoying, too. I wonder if any form of this crap ever receives a positive response? It seems like a vast waste of time and paper.
No way the JWs can know Gods actual name. There is no J in Biblical Hebrew (which I can still read) and when the Tanakh was written it had no vowels or even punctuation. So their pronunciation is their best guess. Edited to add: Owen, you’re very knowledgeable on Hebrew and your pronunciation of letters and vowels is really good. Small errors on “Elohim” as it’s a medium e sound and not a short i. Good to hear from you again. Looking forward to more content from you when it’s ready.
So you say that “J” was not used in the Hebrew Scriptures? Isn’t there “Joshua” “Judges” “Job” “Jeremiah” “Joel” and “Jonah” In Hebrew Scriptures? So why can Jehovah not have a J?
@@michaelmertz6642 you’re looking at a translation into English. Look at my comment above again. I’m talking about the Hebrew Scriptures…meaning the texts written in the Hebrew language. Not an English translation of them.
Pretty sure amongst far right hate groups there are more Hebrew first names than not. Lot of Christians take a lot of names from the bible and you know, there were just a few Hebrews in that book...
@@RickReasonnz the left took over anti semitism in the last 20 years or so. They hate the state of Israel, their actions, their religion, and many of the people.
The history of Bible lore is fascinating, and before Judaism canonized it there was indeed an entire pantheon of gods which included Yahweh. He had parents, aunts and uncles and brothers and sisters. All were gods. He was married and had children, all were gods. And the term “Satan” was not in reference to a demon or a fallen angel. There were many satans, these were a sub section of angels who’s job was to question the will of the gods. To try and keep them level headed, and to not go all berserk with power. As for the snake in the garden of Eden, that was Yahweh’s brother. He was kinder and more gentle than his narcissistic brother, who had gone and created this race of beings meant only to worship him. So Lucifer told the humans that if they ate from the tree of knowledge, they’d have the knowledge of the gods and break their shackles of servitude. It’s all pretty deep and intriguing. And honestly makes for a much better story than the Bible lol.
I've always been fascinated by the pre-Bible myths. Unfortunately, most looking I've tried to do mostly brings research that seems to either see Canaanite myth and Sumerian myth as interchangeable, or implies that they mixed a LOT. Much as I do find Sumerian myth fascinating, I'm interested in Canaanite myth specifically. Know any good sources?
@HeliRy sorry I’m late to this one but I’m very interested in your comment. I’ve never heard a story about Yaweh having a family or any kind of background. Can you please tell me the source of these stories? I would love to read them. Thank you!
@@Wolf-jp9hj It was a book called Genesis of the Grail Kings. Now the book’s overall premise is a deep dive into bonkers-town, asserting that aliens interbred with humans and this is what led to the stories of the Old Testament. Setting that aside, it does do a good job picking apart the writings and beliefs that would eventually become canonized into the Torah. It’s at about the half way mark that the book veers off into tinfoil hat land.
I use this example all the time when trying to explain to people how different sects choose things they feel they are getting "right" and prop those specific tenants up as most important, thus confirming their legitimacy. For my Mormon background, it's things like prophets and apostles that give the church legitimacy. For others, it may be different tenants, like belief in the Trinity.
Fun fact: “El” literally means god. That’s why all angel names end with “-el”. Each angel supposedly represents an aspect of god like Ramiel (Thunder of god). Then there’s Michael, Jophiel, Raphael, Uriel, Zadkiel, Azrael, Gabriel, Samael/Helel (Lucifer isn’t actually the devils real name. Lucifer literally just means Morningstar in Latin and was originally referring to the king of Babylon).
A really important matter, I joined your channel recently and almost watched all of your jw videos I'm glad you're still making them you speak my thoughts i 110% agree
I do have to admit, the production value of the video being reviewed is actually good. It looks to be competently made and comes across as educational even though they may have gotten some info wrong. This must be where they put all those donations towards.
Ya know I always think it's funny how religious groups like this are able to behave this way directly with their religion. One of the biggest sins the Bible has always talked about is that pride and ego are bad. That's according to them. Yet they are willing to change what they believe to be God's word just so their group of believers will be viewed as correct. To me that seems like it has less to do with God and a whole lot more to do with their own pride and ego demanding that they prove themselves to be the most correct sect in the world. Of course I don't think anyone here is shocked by the hypocrisy of these people
They kind of did that in two different ways. The most capable System Lord and the last one standing was Ba'al, baswd on the Canaanite deity. And the later threat of the Ori, way more godlike than the Go'a'uld and pretty much Christian coded with their Book of Origin being a riff on the Bible.
and, after many deities already used, I want a spacerocket named "god". With all the religious zeal in U.S. politics, success would be guaranteed. I just cannot imagine the headlines in (f.e.) Texas saying "God cancelled"
excellent video, i will be glad to add some more information, Yahaweh was more importantly a storm god (take a note how every time god reveals his true self in the bible it sounds like a storm or a volcano eruption). nowadays the israelites are believed to have been one of the canaanite peoples and just like the others, indeed they worshipped the full pantheon with yahweh being one of them, as for the synthesis of yahweh and all the other gods, there are many ideas though one interesting i've heard was that at the time it was believed your soul was an entity represented by the wind (the hebrew word for wind and ghost are the same word) and expressions like the breath of life or "wind of life" or that the bible describes golem spells where the person literally breathes into the golem to bring it to life might hint at this, and so due to his association with storms and therefore wind, they might have began to associate him with ultimately life and reasoned that if he has power over life he has all the power, note that the israelites were never monotheists, they never denied the existence of other gods, they merely tell the reader to not believe in them, this system is referred to as Monolatry, the belief in many gods but the worship of only one, though the bible claims that at some point this religion came in conflict with other cults of other gods within the pantheon in the land. either this or they just wanted to find a way to differentiate themselves from the babylonians during the babylonian exile.
YHWH just means "I am who I am." In the religions of old if you know the name of the god/demon/spirit, you have control over him/her. That is why all gods from all ancient religions don't have names, they have epithets. Ares, for example, comes from the thracian word yareus, wich means the furious one. So when Moses asked this god for his name, the god just answered "Go fuck yourself." There were other gods in the semitic pantheon who were never named as well. Eshmuna, for example means "the one whose name should not be mentioned", or "the nameless one".
@@charliekahn4205 Exactly. The sumerian god Ea/Enki is an example for this. Ea means "his home/house is the water" or "he comes from the water", while Enki means "master of the Earth". Later on he becomes El, the patron deity of the semitic religion, and El means sky/air. The bible often mixes El with YHWH, later on both are infused into one single deity. From the name El derived Allah, the god of the muslims.
The traditional Jewish explanation for why the tetragrammaton is not pronounced is that, as it is the unique name of God, pronouncing it carelessly amounts to taking God's name in vain. So to avoid careless pronouncing the name, we render it as "adonai." For the same reason Jews often use "hashem," literally "the name," when referring to God, and will sometimes write "G-d" (but I obviously think the latter is a bit absurd). There is also a common practice of abbreviating the tetragrammaton as YY to avoid the extra care needed to dispose of paper with God's name written on it (a special box called a genizah would have to be used, where such papers can decay naturally, rather than burning it, shredding it, or throwing it in the trash). The practice of translating God's name as "Lord" continues into the modern era, though in recent decades some progressive Jews have opted to use "God" in English translations to avoid gender-specific language. There is also some truth to the claim that the original pronunciation is lost to time. "Yahweh" is the best rendering by modern secular scholarship but it is in part based on statistical models of language evolution and there will always be some uncertainty. For Jews this has no religious significance since we deliberately avoid pronouncing the name for the reason given above.
The traditions of man are worthless as regards hiding the name of GOD ? NEHEMIAH GORDON a Hebrew scholar who worked on the dead sea scrolls , has discovered the real name of the ALMIGHTY GOD YEHOVAH in Hebrew JEHOVAH in English ?
4:54 I first read that as Ya-hoo-ah. I don't know about ancient Hebrew, but I'm fluent in current day Hebrew. The third letter from the right, Vav, can be pronounced as either a V or an O. For example, my brother is named David. In Hebrew דוד (Daled-Vav,-Daled). Daled is obviously D and the Vav is pronounced like a V. Alternatively, you can pronounce it like Dood (making the Vav into an ooh sound). As a baby, we gave him the nickname דודי (Daled-Vav-Daled-Yud), which we pronounced like Doody (yup, like poop) or could also be pronounced like Davidy (Dah-vee-dee). So, that word יהוה (Yud-Hay-Vav-Hay) could also be pronounced with the V sound, as Yehavah, Yahaveh, Yehaveh, and other combinations of vowels since we don' have the vowels present there (but for some reason, as a Hebrew speaker, my first thought when seeing it was Ya-hoo-ah, similiar to Ya-shoo-ah, the Hebrew word for Jesus). Anyway, I just found it interesting and thought I'd share with anyone who cares. I was born in Israel so Hebrew is technically my first language, but I grew up in the US and learned English at age 5 so I actually find English much easier for me to speak, read, and write. Although I do speak both fluently. So every time I see Hebrew letters on the screen, my mind immediately tries to read them and that is just how i saw it. Other words like Adonai and Elohim are ones I heard a lot growing up in a Jewish family. Probably others too that I can't think of right now. I never really believed in god, even as a child, despite my family pushing it on me from birth. Anyway, I'll shut up now. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Have a wonderful day/night/life everyone! 🤪
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That was really informative... I have a copy of the Jehovah's witness bible and as I was flipping through it, I'm going... "Did they just... Casually insert whatever they felt like? Who friggin did this?" Lol... I guess you answered some of the questions I had. Thanks!
The reason for the Trinity, though, I think it’s really interesting. As far as I’m aware, it’s because Roman temples tended to have three chambers for three different deities. Or at least some did. So once Rome became Christian, the did the most Roman thing they could, and syncretized the Christian beliefs and worship, with Roman practices and temples. But that meant they needed to use the three chambers. Not to mention the number three was ingrained as an important number in Roman myths, just as the number seven was important in Hebrew myths. So the one god needed to be three.
@@seanp3302 it’s…not a conspiracy Romans were amazing at adapting and syncretizing other cultures into their own. It’s a matter of fact that their temples often had three chambers and that those temples were reused after christianization for the new religion. It’s also a fact that the Trinity is a thing that developed because of the Romans. I’m not entirely sure if the temples had something to do with the tripartite god, but if memory serves it does. And the thing about numbers is also a fact. The number three has cultural significance and was recurring in Greek and Roman myths. Similarly, in middle eastern cultures, the number seven is significant and recurring in their mythologies. There’s no conspiracy involved in any of this. It’s just the way these cultures and their stories happened to be, and how they were combined.
Thanks for that summary! It sounds like the reason we have Christmas in December even though it's pretty obvious from the Bible Jesus was born in the spring. The Romans were experts in making a pre-existing festival or celebration thier own!
I am a bit skeptical if this theory as to the origin of the Trinity is legit. I mean, if you want to come up with a way to make your new religion appeal to a wider group of people, I do not know why you would develop a theological concept as confusing as the Holy Trinity, when other view points on the nature of the Godhead and Jesus’s divinity existed and were somewhat popular in certain parts of the Roman Empire. For example, Arianism, which says that Jesus was the Son of God, created by God the Father, and is thus inferior to God the Father makes a lot more logical sense and was popular among many in the Empire until it was declared heresy with the Nicene Creed. Like, don’t get me wrong, there is a lot of stuff in Christianity that was borrowed or influenced by things in the wider Greek/Roman/Pagan world, but the nature of Christ’s divinity was and still is a foundational aspect of Christianity, so I do not know why early Christian theologians and Bishops would budge on such an important point to appeal to Pagan practice like that. Especially when that issue was hotly contested by those same theologians who we have no reason to believe we’re not sincere in their beliefs. Also, another person in this comment chain mentioned the supposed pagan origin of Christmas, but even that is a bit suspect. Christmas did not really line up that closely with Pagan celebrations and was also, for a time around like the 4th century CE, was celebrated along side Roman/Pagan holidays like Saturnalia
Thank you Telltale!!! You nailed it. I even brought up the Yahweh name up in a conversation with a JW and she dismissed me!!! And pushed to say Jehovah!! Jehovah is NOT accurate!! Yahweh is the correct form!!
Oh my goodness this is already blowing my mind and I haven't even gotten far.... update i feel so lied to by my parents. On a side note I really I was super sheltered and punished for stuff that would seem strange to a lot of people and I know I shouldn't be surprised at this point by stuff but I never imagined anything on this scale...
I know someone who’s a JW and he claims it’s just “another translation of it” like how we say Jesus instead of yeshua. I didn’t really know how to argue the point I guess
It boggles my mind how Jehovah Witnesses are fully confident that Gods name was able to be removed from the Bible without questioning the ability for anything else to be removed. If “God’s name” was able to be altered (and God/Jehovah) stood still and did nothing, how can you trust the authenticity of such a book as a whole ?
"Does god have a name?" Well considering it's an imaginary figure that's completely made up you can theoretically call it whatever you want. But also since it isn't real the actual answer is no. No it does not.
@@istvansipos9940 Fictional things can be assigned imaginary names like the ones you pointed out, sure. But that's not what the question the person in the video was asking.
Yes. But Uranus is the PRIMORDIAL god of the sky but he was killed by his titan son Kronos. Then when the gods overthrew the titans Zeus became the new god of the sky.
I’d love to see a video about how the US military fits into the B.I.T.E model. Because I mean while it is working for the government it also just FEELS very culty. With all the chanting while working out, to the loosing your phone during basic training, and the not being able to talk about certain things. I don’t know it just FEELS very off
major hint #1: the word of god should transcend translation issues. if it was indeed the word of god, it should translate *precisely* across all languages, since he allegedly created them all. if he's jehova or yahweh shouldn't even be a question. there should be exactly zero questions in a book that's meant to be the word of a higher power
To piggyback off your thought if I may... I was around the religion since age 5 I'm 50 now and never baptized, saying that to say they have changed so many things to fit the current infrastructure of the world its crazy! Example... Back in the 70s and 80s social media would have been deemed the actual devil and no one would have been on Fb ect,now everyone is on fb,seems to me that's following the world,when they preach being in the world but not apart of it🤔 And now it's OK to attend college when back in my day, they told me not to pursue college because the new system would need manual skills to help build the new world,this was over 30yrs ago I could have went to school to be a doctor and lawyer in that time smh and the world is still hear and their still corrupting young minds to their bs because we all know the end is coming soon.😑
the funniest part about religion is how each can be traced back to one another if you want to take the time. that said, they are all connected, yet they all fight with each other wanting daddies attention.
I used to talk to JW . I would bring things up and they would “explain”. The name of god was supposed to be important so Jahova was where you send your prayers. Then the name Jesus would come up, so I would ask is it Jesus , yesuwa, yeshuwa, or whatever. They brought in a senior JW to guide me skillfully though the Bible but I would do the “and it goes on to say” trick. That was fun for me
One small correction: Vuv as a consonant actually does make a V sound, not a W sound. The confusion I think comes from the fact that Vuv is used just as much if not more as a silent vowel carrier than an actual consonant. 5 years of Hebrew school and while I can't speak the language, I can phonetically read the writing. Although this brings up an interesting memory of when I was a preteen and I said to a Rabbi "Hey, I figured this out! We can never break the commandment of taking the Lord's name in vain because his name is never written with vowels, so we don't actually know what the vowels were supposed to be! They could be anything for all we know!" And I was brushed off with a "it doesn't work like that" and no further ecplanation. One more early crack in my faith in religion.
Well, at least that finally explains how Yahweh ended up in the Holy Land. The area was relatively civilized in the Bronze Age & heavily fought over by the Egyptians & Hittites. Hittites were Indo-Europeans &, in ways we haven't fully explained yet historically, distantly related to Celtic peoples, not to mention the Indo-European race- also known, depending on where you're from as Eurasians, Turkics & Aryans- are the people that Caucasians, or white people, broke away from. All over Europe, when people began learning metallurgy, they reappropriated a pre-existing deity in their pantheons as the god of metallurgy- almost always, it would seem, a storm god or fire god. So, other cultures bring metallurgy into the Holy Land for the first time & the people there adopt the same practice, but with a twist. The closely related tribal peoples south of them, like the Midianites, called Ba'al Yahweh. That was their storm god. Instead of turning Ba'al into their metallurgy god, they divided him using the name used by their relatives to the south & it became two deities for two different things. And, of course, all over this entire region, there is a practice of cities or areas taking up a "patron deity" as their local protector & of the utmost importance. These people, when finally freed from the yokes of Egyptian & Hittite civilization, made up their minds & chose Yahweh, out of all those they believed in.
@@danielyoung2641 They were never slaves in Egypt. From the way they use the term compared to actual history, they just seem to have used the euphemism "slaves" in place of conquered, just like they later do with the Babylonians, except, in this case, it eventually contributed to this story about their ancestors having been slaves in Egypt. From before the time of the Hyksos migrating into Egypt until the Bronze Age collapse, the Holy Land was pretty much divided between Egypt in the south & the Hittites from the north, who were constantly fighting over the region. But, Egypt went into a steep decline at roughly the same time as the Hittite Empire collapsed & that left the people of the Holy Land free to do as they wished. No migration of new people entered that region. Still, on the timeline of things, this means that Yahweh was just the main protectorate deity of the Judeans & Israelites (which would imply, for instance, the first commandment originally just meant that Yahweh is the deity you worship first & foremost, not the only deity you worship), though he wasn't particularly important in the grand scheme of the local religion, which seems to have largely remained the same as what the Canaanites had already been practicing, until the Babylonian invasion. Then, high ranking people of Judea & Israel were taken prisoner to live in the capitol city to keep the rest of their people in check. There, they decided that they screwed something up religiously & that is the only explanation why they could ever possibly be conquered by another people, realized how much of a connection there was between the gods they worshipped & those of other people's around them- particularly the Mesopotamians & Egyptians- & remade the religion as a monotheistic one where Yahweh was the only deity & pushed that on their people once they were able to finally go home, after the Babylonian Empire collapsed.
Of course, there was also heavy influence from Sumerian/Babylonian/Assyrian (same thing theologically) religion on the region. Sumerian theology has a creator god and a leader god, and all the other gods are under the leader god (although some parts had the creator be the leader). Judaism does something similar, and takes it far enough to create practical monotheism. So God can be unique and still have a consort, and you can believe in multiple deities but worship only one.
Pretty tasty food for thought. Were you saying that scholarship is leaning toward classing the ancient Indo-Aryans and Anatolians into a pretty coherent ethnic stock within the greater I-E group? And that the Celts share greater if distant affinity with them than with their ostensibly closer neighbors, like the Italic and Germanic?
When I was at high school my Religious Studies teacher had a PhD (technically DPhil) in Classical Greek from Oxford, she once explained this to us in class but it totally went over our heads at the time. Good teacher, evangelical though the class was never made aware of her beliefs. Thank you for explaining this in a way even I could understand this time 😜.
Hello! I’m a Jehovah Witness myself and YESS! I agree, Gods name is YHWH. Gods name in Hebrew language is YHWH. Daniel 7:14 says “And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed.” Gods name in English is Jehovah, Gods name in Japanese is エホバ (Ehoba) Gods name in Hindi is यहोवा (Yahova) Gods name in Russian is Иегова (Iyegova) Gods name in Italian is Geova, Gods name in French is Jéhovah Gods nane in Chinese is 耶和华 (Yēhéhuá). He’s the God of all the nations and language. Thank you for showing me your perspective. It well help me a lot during service.
6:00 love that sign. I never get any religious people (or any people) knocking on my door. I kind of wish they would so I'd have a reason to buy your sign. It's very cool.
Your research for what is accurately factual is a word of fresh breath...lol, I too was a JW, by choice, not raised in it, and I seen the hypocrisy within most involved and immediately acted to the red flags and publicly denounced them. I study religion, scholastic and personal, and your videos teach me new things, thanks so much.
Robert Sepehr is an AMAZING anthropologist and has many videos on RUclips and covers this subject amount others. Several of his videos have been deleted by RUclips but he keeps on going. I recommend listening to him!
This reminds me of when I was little and my sister and I would fight and start pestering our mom. She would say, "I'm changing my name to bitch, figure it out of one of you is about to get grounded." That's no fair mom, you can't have a forbidden name!
I literally rambled about how I looked at the first few pages of Genesis last night. Like literally last night I couldn’t sleep and went on a ramble about how the old testament is a pantheon. Until a god came along was like I am the real yahweh, and take down the false idols of Asherah.
Elizabeth, Hannah and so on ARE English translations. Names are often adapted to the target language, which is understandable for pronunciation, but still not the original name.
Hey TellTale, quick question. When I was in Catholic school, I learned about some beliefs in that Jesus wasn’t fully God or fully human. Catholics believe in the hypostatic union, and I was wondering if Jehovah’s Witnesses believed in the same thing or not. If anyone else has an answer I’d love to hear it!! Thanks!
@@juliaboon9741 I meant that some people believe that he is neither fully God or fully man; I know that the Hypostatic Union is that Jesus is fully God and fully human. Sorry for the confusion!
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Zeus is god of sky and thunder, I think primarily god of thunder though
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Fun fact: "Elohim" is actually a plural form, the singular form is "El"
Just like how "Seraphim" is plural and the singular form is "Seraph" and how "Cherubim" is also a plural of "Cherub"
@@chargemankent another fun fact: angels are actually minor deities, messengers or intermediaries of god/gods. Similar to the daemons, the genius or guardian spirits. Angels were messengers of El/Yahweh, and weren’t winged but seraphim and cherubim were described with wings and animal heads. Angel simply means “messenger” and didn’t denote a specific supernatural entity
@@chargemankent they derive from Mesopotamian mythology
I'm so glad you're a content creator bc these vids have not only distracted me from issues in my life that I can't control, but also it's very informative and helps me understand the context for religious peoples views and cultists views.
@Ryan Hendricks that's actually still not accurate.
man are also gods I cor 8 v 5. an how can man made god ,or not ,it is not for you to want God as you like ,you want jessus to be god , but jessus dont want to be your god ,he want you to worship his father ,that he said to satan you must worship only Jehovah God.
It is AMAZING how so many of us former JWs have similar childhood experiences. I was terrified of the dark as a kid (admittedly, at 35 I still sleep with at least one light on near by, but that’s neither here nor there). Anyways, I did the EXACT same thing every time I turned the lights off in the basement and ran up the stairs in the dark or every time I had to get up in the middle of the night and couldn’t turn a light on or any scenario like that. I’d just go around saying “Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah” like it was was some magical charm to ward off demons.
It’s SO ingrained in me that even today, as an educated adult and firm atheist, I still catch myself thinking it when I’m afraid of something.
That’s cult life for you and why it’s so hard to break some people free of ingrained habits.
treat yourself to a lava lamp lol
Betelgeuse, Betelgeuse, Betelgeuse (sp?) 😉 It's an alternative and equally ridiculous.
@@Beanmachine91 treat myself to a lava lamp? What do you mean? I have one btw. Like a real one I had to import from the UK from the actual company that makes the real ones.
Do you mean use it as a night light? Not a bad idea actually.
Yes, that was the teaching. Calling on the name of Jehovah would scare the demons away. And for some time during my experience I believed it worked. Then when I woke up to the cult and started pulling away from them, I began to have more nightmare even while calling Jehovah's name. I refused to see it as punishment for doubting and researching. My persistence with spiritual research and pulling away from the org mentally won over. It's been a while since the floating and shaking beds. Although you are a "firm atheist", but locked on the name of Jehovah, trying to call on the name of Jesus instead during those moments. And if it feels odd to your b/c of years of training, you say "jesus in the name of the father of Jehovah". Can't hurt since you are already calling out a name. As JW, they only brough out Jesus name to claim that they are christians and to show christ as leader with the many books that they published on him. But really, access to the true father was always blocked by the GB. Even if you are no longer a believer, try replacing the name.
@@kjpmi its a relaxing light lol
I had a discussion with a JW shortly after my wife's life had been saved by means of a blood transfusion. His take was that the Bible instructs them to not take blood. I asked if he was a vegetarian or vegan. Negative. My suggestion that he DOES take blood by eating flesh came with this response;..."Well, it's only a little bit'. Stupid, or what???
Not just stupid, but exactly backwards. The Biblical rule is clearly and specifically about eating.
“Only, you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.” (Genesis 9:4 NRSV-CI)
Literally read it means not to eat flesh with blood still in it, likely referring to rare meat.
@@juliaboon9741 oh heavens. I'd rather just not go down a rabbit hole and speculate altogether. I propose we question how much of the Bible's different commands and instructions from hundreds of years ago are still relevant and should even apply in today's culture. I was raised in a very old-fashioned, conservative Christian family and struggle with this topic, especially when I consider that the Bible has many different versions and translations and was not physically written by God or Jesus personally. There have been many contradictions from the Bible that have been pointed out and far too many nutty theories that have been assumed, stretched and taken far out of the original context. What is to be the punishment for violating each of these instructions like eating bottom-dwelling sea creatures etc and what punishments have allegedly came to pass across time as they were violated? I don't think any of us will have any concrete answers until we die.
@@Digital_David Well. Those laws regarding clean and unclean animals are generally regarded by Christians as being part of the old “Mosaic” law and were either supplanted by Christ or fulfilled by Christ. Which is yet another reason why JWs obsession with not consuming blood is strange when considering their relationship with Christianity at large.
@@NovaSaber the bible is filled with contradictions.
Great video as always dude. I live in a small conservative town, and your videos make me feel like I'm not the only atheist out there. Keep up the awesome work
It is the say way for me. Tiny town with many churches
I wouldn't be at all surprised if a lot more people in your small conservative town are secretly atheists.
sounds like youre from bakersfield ca, the country music capital of ca lol
@@Beanmachine91 Yep, and the home of Kevin McCarthy. 🤢🤮
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As someone who grew up Orthodox Jewish, half my school days were dedicated to studying the Bible--both the original ancient Hebrew and the millennia of commentary and analysis.
The tetragrammaton is present all over the bible: there was no conspiracy to remove it. We were *never* taught how to pronounce יהוה because you are never supposed to pronounce god's *real* name. We were actually taught that there are many such "hidden names," all of which had tremendous power, including a 72-letter name that Moses purportedly used to split the red sea. Knowledge of these names is restricted to the holiest of people, and their use by a lesser person is grounds for your soul being cut off from heaven.
As such, even though the name is written out in its entirety across the Torah, you will never hear a Jewish person pronounce it as anything other than "Adonai." Even *that* is treated with respect: you are only supposed to say when reciting a prayer or ritualistically reading from the Torah during services. In common parlance, you say "Hashem," meaning "the name." So I have no idea where JW get this bizarre obsession with deliberately pronouncing the name "as written," despite there being no accepted way to pronounce it, and several thousand years of tradition explaining why trying to do so is one of the worst things you can do.
(Also, you should do a BITE model episode examining the cultishness of Orthodox Judaism because it is WILD.)
When Owen did his "Is X a cult" series, judaism was determined "not a cult" because there are secular and even atheistic jews.
You should watch Drew from GeneticModifiedSkeptic and his video when he traveled to Beneberak foran examination.
In my opinion, orthodox judaism isn't a cult, but an umbrella for many different cults (or sects, the more common term), these are broken down to hassidic sects, and litvak (or, opposing) sects.
The same for our Charismatic Protestants who talk in tongues, bring up snakes in the services, dance until they pass out, etc...
@Christa Simon Well obviously the Jewish belief system has nothing to do with Jesus so the idea of Jesus "opening up heaven" was a later Christian invention.
Jewish afterlife is kind of complex and vaguely described. The basic conception that I grew up with is that essentially everyone gets heaven, but there are different "levels" of heaven. The more pious you are, the closer you are to God in the world to come. There's no permanent "hell": more like a cleansing process tailored to your earthly shortcomings, after which you end up in heaven eventually.
There are very specific sins that can get a Jew's soul "cut off," which itself is a punishment with a variety of outcomes: it could be an early death, being childless, being separated from your people in the afterlife, or even getting no afterlife at all. This punishment can be earned for deliberately committing specific sins like eating leavened bread on Passover, incest, worshipping false gods, not being circumcised, having sex with a woman who is menstruating, and especially cursing God using one of those "special names."
Note that all of this only applies to Jews. In the Jewish belief system, all non-Jews have to do to get into heaven is a couple of pretty obvious things, like not be murderers. That's why you don't see Jews proselytizing, and even turning away prospective converts: it's way harder to get into heaven as a Jew than as a non-Jew, so trying to convince people to join is just setting them up for failure.
@@adrianblake8876 The reason I specified *Orthodox* Judaism is because yes, there are plenty of non-crazy sects of Judaism (reform, conservative, etc.). In my experience, Orthodox Judaism itself encompasses all the sects that operate like a cult. Even the "modern orthodox" community I grew up in was incredibly concerning, despite being willing to make "concessions" like allowing cell phones.
In terms of behavior control alone, it's one of the most controlling religious beliefs out there. Everything Orthodox Jews do every second of the day is regimented by the religion, down to the order you're supposed to tie your shoes (left first, then right, because the right side is "more holy," and you should always be going up in holiness). Thought control and emotion control are also incredibly fierce and all-encompassing, with multiple hours every day dedicated to prayers, measures to make sure you're constantly thinking about the religion, etc. The least overbearing category is information control, particularly in modern orthodoxy, where you're perfectly allowed to accept that evolution is real (the 7 "days" of creation were metaphorical and therefore reconcilable with the billions of years we can clearly see happened).
If I may ask a question, too. I have heard that a Jewish person's name is their legacy. How you are remembered is your eternity. Could you please help me to understand this better? Thanks
I grew up Catholic, and was closely part of the church for the majority of my life. I was NEVER tought about the Canaanite gods or the origin of Yahweh. This is seriously shocking to me. Keep it up dude.
The Catholic Church doesn't teach you anything except to pray to a "Mary" as your Mediatrix and Savior. I went to Catholic School for years and was just as dumb when I came out as when I went in!
My favorite thing to do when they come to my house is calling them Mormons then when they correct me I just ignore it. Sometimes saying things like, "there's a difference?" Or "does it matter?"
They get so pissed.
Hey Owen, in the future I hope you can talk about Zoroastrianism and it’s influence on the creation of Christianity. It’s actually pretty fascinating and it’s not hard to see just how many foundational Christian beliefs came from Zoroastrianism.
Are you referring to the influence that Zoroastrianism had on Judaism, which then obviously also affected Christianity, or is there a different layer of influence that I‘m unaware of?
@@algepaca Yes, you are correct Zoroastrianism had its effects on Judaism, additionally it had effects on Christianity because Zoroastrianism continued to exist along side both and also had effects on what would become Islam.
I would think Mithra influenced Christianity just as Zoroaster influenced Judaism.
@@Kain59242 Right, I know about the influences on Islam, but can you give some examples for influences on Christianity, apart from the ones that were present in Judaism?
@@algepaca I know of the connection between virgin birth and the fight of good VS evil with God eventually winning over it. Also and I could be wrong here and misremembering it but I am fairly certain that the 3 wise men were actually Zoroastrian. Magi? I think?
Great video. Thanks Telltale. As a former JW, I appreciate your videos. Keep up the good work. I wish RUclips had existed 30 years ago. Would've saved me a lot of grief.
My mom told me the same thing. To say Jehovah's name to protect me from Satan and his demons if I'm afraid at night. Good video!
Except that Jehovah IS Satan in disguise. Look up: "FOUND - PARALLEL VERSION of scripture Proves JEHOVAH called SATAN" on RUclips.
Did it protect you?
@@finalscorce yes because Jehovah protects those who are trying to reach him. But if your just saying hise name just to ward demons off its not all he wants he wants you to serve him and grow your relationship with him.
I'm almost 100% sure that first picture he drew was from a watchtower cover...I distinctly remember this from a childhood memory
Hey guys, linguist here. Thank you Tell Tale for making videos like this! I just want to correct something. When the "yehowah" name entered Germanic speaking regions, it's not that they pronounced y as j, it's that they SPELL the y sound with a j. Similarly, most Germanic languages do not have the same w sound that English does and the closest they get is the v sound. Although they have w the letter is most Germanic languages, it's usually pronounced as v, and they also usually have the v letter which may or may not be pronounced they way English speakers pronounce the letter v. So, when Germans etc spelled the name as "jehova" it would have been pronounced as an English speaker would read "Yehova." English and French are the only languages around there that pronounce j the letter as j the sound as in judge. It would have been when this spelling (Jehova) entered one of those two languages that the j was actually pronounced the way we hear Jehova's witnesses pronounce it. Just my thoughts for minor clarification.
j originated as a variant of i when the sound was used more like an enligh consonant y than an the vowel i, mostly at the beginning of a word. Iesus is another example of that. It would have been pronounced like a y in most languages until that sound eventually evolved to be more like the j sounds that English and French use today, and at that point the letter j in those languages came to specifically represent the j (as in judge) sound, not just a varient of i.
So, it's not that those other Germanic languages changed the pronunciation when they spelled it "Jehova" it's that that spelling sounded pretty much like "Yahowa." the pronunciation changed when the "Jehova" spelling reached languages that pronounce j as j as in junior, i.e. English and probably French.
Modern Christianity is a classic example of what happens when the authors of a fantasy franchise die, the OG publishers gradually lose control of their IP copyrights to piracy, and 2000 years of bad fan-fic creeps into the canon
Good thing to note is that the metallurgy origin for Yahweh is just a theory based on similarities with other cultures' metallurgy gods, and not yet accepted in mainstream religious studies. I think the more mainstream take, though also still a theory, (which is not mutually exclusive with the metallurgy hypothesis) is that Yahweh was originally the Midianite god Yahoo, who was adopted by a small group of people who would eventually contribute to the Israelite ethnogenesis.
Also, the use of names like Elohim and El does not mean the people who wrote the Bible were worshipping Canaanite gods. At one point, of course, they did, since the Israelites are descended from Canaanites who moved to the central highlands during the late Bronze Age Collapse. However, most of the Bible was composed well after that, and these names were simply still in use to refer to the Israelite God. Though El could refer to a specific Canaanite god, it was also just a word that meant God. It's complicated and nuanced though, so it is likely that at some points in the Bible Elohim is referring to a council of Gods. It's also likely that Yahweh took a lot of influence from Canaanite gods, specifically Baal.
Very interesting. Thank you
Israelites are not decedent's of Canaanites Israelites come from Noah's son Shem while Canaanites originate from Noah's son Ham
@@andreotchere6456 my post was purely what the textual and archaeological evidence suggests, and not what the Bible says. This is just the historical perspective, and by no means something anyone has to accept as religiously true. There is no archaeological evidence that I’m aware of that provides evidence for Ham and Shem, so historians, when doing peer-reviewed historical work, don’t tend to promote that idea. That doesn’t mean it’s invalid in a religious context, though!
@@violetking4822 understandable, my question then is what motivated archaeologist to look into the lineage of Canaanites and israelites if religion was not included and What makes them so credible so as not to be questioned.
My other thing is people discredit the Bible due to its age if that's the case then couldn't I make the claim that all other forms of history are inaccurate due to age as well
You have to take the stories of the bible with a grain of salt...and sometimes with a pillar of salt 🤭
I understood that reference
And sometimes, you are that salt pillar
I thought salt was bad for you?
I find it interesting that Lot's wife was punished for looking back @the city, yet Lot was spared even after offering his 2 daughters to be gang raped by the same city?
@@JayBandersnatch hey you're not to question it but just to believe it's true , facts and common sense is wrong😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 #thebibleisBS
In the Bible, it said "worship no other gods but me" or smth like that, and it doesn't disprove the existence of other deities at all. It just says that God doesn't want his followers to worship others. Early Christians and other groups of people were omnist. I'm an omnist, too, which means that I believe that all deities exist in their own way. It doesn't mean I worship all of them.
Anyone in the UK been receiving handwritten letters in the post from JW's lately? I've had a couple over the last year. No name on the envelope, just the address. Yesterday, my mum in another area, got one. Wondering if they're being directed to do this because door knocking during the pandemic is not a great idea, both for them and whoever is answering the door? I find it a bit creepy. Even though the letters are just generic Bible stuff, it still weirds me out. Feels like a bit of an invasion of privacy to me as well. You can believe what you want, but keep your beliefs to yourself.
Weirdly I get fake handwritten letters, fonts that look like handwriting, from all sorts of churches but the ones that piss me off the most is the door hangers. Neighbors just throw them on the ground. Maintenance doesn’t clean them up. There’s been one sitting on the ground at the next apartment behind me for at least a month. On the one hand, some of my neighbors are pigs. On the other hand, they blow off doors when it’s windy because we have breezeways rather than hallways. On the third hand, stop putting unwanted trash on my door.
Forgot to say I live in the US.
More people can play that game.
Find the gospel of Judas (was much of the text as can be found) and use it to write something that looks like sorcery. Put in their address on the paper and deliver it to them (no name of course). Do that until they stop.
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Yes! I live in England, and I received one the other day, from someone just down the street from me. I found it intrusive and annoying, too. I wonder if any form of this crap ever receives a positive response? It seems like a vast waste of time and paper.
I love hearing the intro! Its classic, and I hope you never change it!
Isn't it Either from Silent Partner?
No way the JWs can know Gods actual name. There is no J in Biblical Hebrew (which I can still read) and when the Tanakh was written it had no vowels or even punctuation. So their pronunciation is their best guess.
Edited to add: Owen, you’re very knowledgeable on Hebrew and your pronunciation of letters and vowels is really good. Small errors on “Elohim” as it’s a medium e sound and not a short i. Good to hear from you again. Looking forward to more content from you when it’s ready.
Hebrew it would be yehwah
@@leeboy244 close possibly. But no way for anyone to really know.
So you say that “J” was not used in the Hebrew Scriptures? Isn’t there “Joshua” “Judges” “Job” “Jeremiah” “Joel” and “Jonah” In Hebrew Scriptures? So why can Jehovah not have a J?
@@michaelmertz6642 you’re looking at a translation into English. Look at my comment above again. I’m talking about the Hebrew Scriptures…meaning the texts written in the Hebrew language. Not an English translation of them.
Yes in Hebrew they do not have J. But why in English is it ok to have a J for those men but can not use J for the most high God?
Imagine hating Jewish people and finding out your name or your kids name "Elizabeth" was a Hebrew name lol
Pretty sure amongst far right hate groups there are more Hebrew first names than not. Lot of Christians take a lot of names from the bible and you know, there were just a few Hebrews in that book...
@@RickReasonnz the left took over anti semitism in the last 20 years or so. They hate the state of Israel, their actions, their religion, and many of the people.
@@chrischandler889 .... oh my fuck, why....
@@RickReasonnz
Don't bother reacting to him any further, he's deluded.
Holy cow... are we going to gloss over the fact that a JW just claimed that a person could be an architect, which requires a college degree?
i didn't even catch that, they almost got away with that
And that does, absolutely, blow my fucking socks off. As an ex-Mormon, I recognize a lot of those words, but it's crazy.
The history of Bible lore is fascinating, and before Judaism canonized it there was indeed an entire pantheon of gods which included Yahweh. He had parents, aunts and uncles and brothers and sisters. All were gods. He was married and had children, all were gods.
And the term “Satan” was not in reference to a demon or a fallen angel. There were many satans, these were a sub section of angels who’s job was to question the will of the gods. To try and keep them level headed, and to not go all berserk with power.
As for the snake in the garden of Eden, that was Yahweh’s brother. He was kinder and more gentle than his narcissistic brother, who had gone and created this race of beings meant only to worship him. So Lucifer told the humans that if they ate from the tree of knowledge, they’d have the knowledge of the gods and break their shackles of servitude.
It’s all pretty deep and intriguing. And honestly makes for a much better story than the Bible lol.
I've always been fascinated by the pre-Bible myths. Unfortunately, most looking I've tried to do mostly brings research that seems to either see Canaanite myth and Sumerian myth as interchangeable, or implies that they mixed a LOT. Much as I do find Sumerian myth fascinating, I'm interested in Canaanite myth specifically. Know any good sources?
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Not really. Never bothered to go that deep into the lineage of which stories came from where exactly.
@HeliRy sorry I’m late to this one but I’m very interested in your comment. I’ve never heard a story about Yaweh having a family or any kind of background. Can you please tell me the source of these stories? I would love to read them. Thank you!
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It was a book called Genesis of the Grail Kings. Now the book’s overall premise is a deep dive into bonkers-town, asserting that aliens interbred with humans and this is what led to the stories of the Old Testament. Setting that aside, it does do a good job picking apart the writings and beliefs that would eventually become canonized into the Torah. It’s at about the half way mark that the book veers off into tinfoil hat land.
@@HeliRy thank you!
I use this example all the time when trying to explain to people how different sects choose things they feel they are getting "right" and prop those specific tenants up as most important, thus confirming their legitimacy.
For my Mormon background, it's things like prophets and apostles that give the church legitimacy. For others, it may be different tenants, like belief in the Trinity.
Read the CES letter.
@@bryn6000 Oh don't you worry. WAYYYYYY ahead of you there! Lol
@@bryn6000 What's the CES letter?
@@daveyjones7391look up "Jeremy Runnells" (the author of the CES letter) on Wikipedia
@@bryn6000 Okay, thanks. Cool name, by the way.
Loved this!! Thank you Owen!!
Fun fact: “El” literally means god. That’s why all angel names end with “-el”. Each angel supposedly represents an aspect of god like Ramiel (Thunder of god). Then there’s Michael, Jophiel, Raphael, Uriel, Zadkiel, Azrael, Gabriel, Samael/Helel (Lucifer isn’t actually the devils real name. Lucifer literally just means Morningstar in Latin and was originally referring to the king of Babylon).
Israel?
Thanks for saying that. I didn't know that. That's real.
@@samuelhenry8366 Triumphant with god. Yep 👍
Most of these names only come from kabbalah, and i can think of at least one that doesn't end with el
@@chriscortez2036 Can also mean "the people who can wrestle a god" or "the people who deal with god" (aka theologians).
A really important matter, I joined your channel recently and almost watched all of your jw videos I'm glad you're still making them you speak my thoughts i 110% agree
learned this last year, it was a watershed moment for my religious deconstruction and spiritual awakening
video starts
5s in:
owen: "what is gods name?"
me: "envy, but i'll watch to the end anyway"
I do have to admit, the production value of the video being reviewed is actually good. It looks to be competently made and comes across as educational even though they may have gotten some info wrong. This must be where they put all those donations towards.
Ya know I always think it's funny how religious groups like this are able to behave this way directly with their religion. One of the biggest sins the Bible has always talked about is that pride and ego are bad. That's according to them. Yet they are willing to change what they believe to be God's word just so their group of believers will be viewed as correct. To me that seems like it has less to do with God and a whole lot more to do with their own pride and ego demanding that they prove themselves to be the most correct sect in the world. Of course I don't think anyone here is shocked by the hypocrisy of these people
Damn, now I want to see Stargate make a story arc about Yahweh fighting for supremacy against the other Cannanite gods...
God of War 3 but Yahweh vs Canaan
They kind of did that in two different ways. The most capable System Lord and the last one standing was Ba'al, baswd on the Canaanite deity. And the later threat of the Ori, way more godlike than the Go'a'uld and pretty much Christian coded with their Book of Origin being a riff on the Bible.
and, after many deities already used, I want a spacerocket named "god". With all the religious zeal in U.S. politics, success would be guaranteed.
I just cannot imagine the headlines in (f.e.) Texas saying "God cancelled"
@@Sesharon Point well made! Kudos! I took the Ori to be a reference to Origen of Alexandria. But I could be wrong...
excellent video, i will be glad to add some more information, Yahaweh was more importantly a storm god (take a note how every time god reveals his true self in the bible it sounds like a storm or a volcano eruption).
nowadays the israelites are believed to have been one of the canaanite peoples and just like the others, indeed they worshipped the full pantheon with yahweh being one of them, as for the synthesis of yahweh and all the other gods, there are many ideas though one interesting i've heard was that at the time it was believed your soul was an entity represented by the wind (the hebrew word for wind and ghost are the same word) and expressions like the breath of life or "wind of life" or that the bible describes golem spells where the person literally breathes into the golem to bring it to life might hint at this, and so due to his association with storms and therefore wind, they might have began to associate him with ultimately life and reasoned that if he has power over life he has all the power, note that the israelites were never monotheists, they never denied the existence of other gods, they merely tell the reader to not believe in them, this system is referred to as Monolatry, the belief in many gods but the worship of only one, though the bible claims that at some point this religion came in conflict with other cults of other gods within the pantheon in the land.
either this or they just wanted to find a way to differentiate themselves from the babylonians during the babylonian exile.
0:52 Well those are really strange depictions of the Greek gods. The depiction of Artemis, goddess of the hunt, is especially odd.
Have you seen pictures of the Artemis of Ephesus? A bit different...
Hey Owen, Fantastic video. Could you please do more videos on Mormons. I would really appreciate it. Keep up the Great Work
“Making it worse? How could I possibly make this worse?! Jehova! Jehova! Jehova!”
Ay watch out, you might get stoned by wom- I mean men lol
YHWH just means "I am who I am." In the religions of old if you know the name of the god/demon/spirit, you have control over him/her. That is why all gods from all ancient religions don't have names, they have epithets. Ares, for example, comes from the thracian word yareus, wich means the furious one. So when Moses asked this god for his name, the god just answered "Go fuck yourself."
There were other gods in the semitic pantheon who were never named as well. Eshmuna, for example means "the one whose name should not be mentioned", or "the nameless one".
It means "he shall be" (y denotes third person singular masculine in future verbs)
They can also just be variations on the thing over which they have dominion or that is their symbol.
@@charliekahn4205 Exactly. The sumerian god Ea/Enki is an example for this. Ea means "his home/house is the water" or "he comes from the water", while Enki means "master of the Earth". Later on he becomes El, the patron deity of the semitic religion, and El means sky/air. The bible often mixes El with YHWH, later on both are infused into one single deity. From the name El derived Allah, the god of the muslims.
The traditional Jewish explanation for why the tetragrammaton is not pronounced is that, as it is the unique name of God, pronouncing it carelessly amounts to taking God's name in vain. So to avoid careless pronouncing the name, we render it as "adonai." For the same reason Jews often use "hashem," literally "the name," when referring to God, and will sometimes write "G-d" (but I obviously think the latter is a bit absurd). There is also a common practice of abbreviating the tetragrammaton as YY to avoid the extra care needed to dispose of paper with God's name written on it (a special box called a genizah would have to be used, where such papers can decay naturally, rather than burning it, shredding it, or throwing it in the trash). The practice of translating God's name as "Lord" continues into the modern era, though in recent decades some progressive Jews have opted to use "God" in English translations to avoid gender-specific language.
There is also some truth to the claim that the original pronunciation is lost to time. "Yahweh" is the best rendering by modern secular scholarship but it is in part based on statistical models of language evolution and there will always be some uncertainty. For Jews this has no religious significance since we deliberately avoid pronouncing the name for the reason given above.
So, his name could be Yoohoowoohoo for all we know.
@@GumSkyloard Some people say that if you get it right you get struck by lightning.
I started writing my own comment to this tune but you wrote it better 👍
The traditions of man are worthless as regards hiding the name of GOD ? NEHEMIAH GORDON a Hebrew scholar who worked on the dead sea scrolls , has discovered the real name of the ALMIGHTY GOD YEHOVAH in Hebrew JEHOVAH in English ?
4:54 I first read that as Ya-hoo-ah. I don't know about ancient Hebrew, but I'm fluent in current day Hebrew. The third letter from the right, Vav, can be pronounced as either a V or an O. For example, my brother is named David. In Hebrew דוד (Daled-Vav,-Daled). Daled is obviously D and the Vav is pronounced like a V. Alternatively, you can pronounce it like Dood (making the Vav into an ooh sound). As a baby, we gave him the nickname דודי (Daled-Vav-Daled-Yud), which we pronounced like Doody (yup, like poop) or could also be pronounced like Davidy (Dah-vee-dee). So, that word יהוה (Yud-Hay-Vav-Hay) could also be pronounced with the V sound, as Yehavah, Yahaveh, Yehaveh, and other combinations of vowels since we don' have the vowels present there (but for some reason, as a Hebrew speaker, my first thought when seeing it was Ya-hoo-ah, similiar to Ya-shoo-ah, the Hebrew word for Jesus). Anyway, I just found it interesting and thought I'd share with anyone who cares. I was born in Israel so Hebrew is technically my first language, but I grew up in the US and learned English at age 5 so I actually find English much easier for me to speak, read, and write. Although I do speak both fluently. So every time I see Hebrew letters on the screen, my mind immediately tries to read them and that is just how i saw it. Other words like Adonai and Elohim are ones I heard a lot growing up in a Jewish family. Probably others too that I can't think of right now. I never really believed in god, even as a child, despite my family pushing it on me from birth. Anyway, I'll shut up now. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. Have a wonderful day/night/life everyone! 🤪
Got a Pureflix ad after 10 minutes, LOL.
Even as a non-religious person, the Canaanite origins of Yahweh and Elyon blew my mind
When I heard the name Elohim a thought pass from my head, if you game, please do a review of the game the talos principle, it is a great game and the message is so important, specially for people that have religions.
Yoo I love that game so much, first time I saw someone reference it
EVERYONE KNOWS HIS NAME IS HOWARD! It’s right there in his prayer. “ Our Father, who art in heaven. Howard be thy name…….
I know this comment is old, but this made me laugh SO hard. 😂
That was really informative... I have a copy of the Jehovah's witness bible and as I was flipping through it, I'm going... "Did they just... Casually insert whatever they felt like? Who friggin did this?" Lol... I guess you answered some of the questions I had. Thanks!
Find/Replace strikes again
🤦🏽 WE translated it into our MODERN LANGUAGE and somehow you don’t understand it? Bro then whats the point make up your mind people.
The best presentation I've seen on this subject.
It reminds me of that old Marvel Villain Onslaught. His thing used to be "Know my name and fear it!"
You blew my socks off so effectively that I wasn’t even wearing socks before I started watching the video.
The reason for the Trinity, though, I think it’s really interesting.
As far as I’m aware, it’s because Roman temples tended to have three chambers for three different deities. Or at least some did.
So once Rome became Christian, the did the most Roman thing they could, and syncretized the Christian beliefs and worship, with Roman practices and temples.
But that meant they needed to use the three chambers. Not to mention the number three was ingrained as an important number in Roman myths, just as the number seven was important in Hebrew myths.
So the one god needed to be three.
huh, cool
lol ok conspiratard.
@@seanp3302 it’s…not a conspiracy
Romans were amazing at adapting and syncretizing other cultures into their own.
It’s a matter of fact that their temples often had three chambers and that those temples were reused after christianization for the new religion.
It’s also a fact that the Trinity is a thing that developed because of the Romans.
I’m not entirely sure if the temples had something to do with the tripartite god, but if memory serves it does.
And the thing about numbers is also a fact.
The number three has cultural significance and was recurring in Greek and Roman myths. Similarly, in middle eastern cultures, the number seven is significant and recurring in their mythologies.
There’s no conspiracy involved in any of this. It’s just the way these cultures and their stories happened to be, and how they were combined.
Thanks for that summary! It sounds like the reason we have Christmas in December even though it's pretty obvious from the Bible Jesus was born in the spring.
The Romans were experts in making a pre-existing festival or celebration thier own!
I am a bit skeptical if this theory as to the origin of the Trinity is legit. I mean, if you want to come up with a way to make your new religion appeal to a wider group of people, I do not know why you would develop a theological concept as confusing as the Holy Trinity, when other view points on the nature of the Godhead and Jesus’s divinity existed and were somewhat popular in certain parts of the Roman Empire. For example, Arianism, which says that Jesus was the Son of God, created by God the Father, and is thus inferior to God the Father makes a lot more logical sense and was popular among many in the Empire until it was declared heresy with the Nicene Creed.
Like, don’t get me wrong, there is a lot of stuff in Christianity that was borrowed or influenced by things in the wider Greek/Roman/Pagan world, but the nature of Christ’s divinity was and still is a foundational aspect of Christianity, so I do not know why early Christian theologians and Bishops would budge on such an important point to appeal to Pagan practice like that. Especially when that issue was hotly contested by those same theologians who we have no reason to believe we’re not sincere in their beliefs.
Also, another person in this comment chain mentioned the supposed pagan origin of Christmas, but even that is a bit suspect. Christmas did not really line up that closely with Pagan celebrations and was also, for a time around like the 4th century CE, was celebrated along side Roman/Pagan holidays like Saturnalia
Growing up, I thought God’s last name was Damnit!
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Stellar work yet again Telltale.
Consider my socks GONE.
Why does the narration and music remind me of the genetics ride in Jurassic Park?
Thank you Telltale!!! You nailed it. I even brought up the Yahweh name up in a conversation with a JW and she dismissed me!!! And pushed to say Jehovah!! Jehovah is NOT accurate!! Yahweh is the correct form!!
Honestly best sleep I get is ur video. Turn u on and u just instantly put me out idk why
Oh my goodness this is already blowing my mind and I haven't even gotten far.... update i feel so lied to by my parents. On a side note I really I was super sheltered and punished for stuff that would seem strange to a lot of people and I know I shouldn't be surprised at this point by stuff but I never imagined anything on this scale...
I've went down a rabbit hole questioning my own catholic faith after watching this and I than you and hope to find my answers one day
I would throw my socks off but I'm at work and I dont think they'd appreciate that lol
I don’t have socks on bc I’m in bed right now but I’ll just pretend he knocked them off 😂
I know someone who’s a JW and he claims it’s just “another translation of it” like how we say Jesus instead of yeshua. I didn’t really know how to argue the point I guess
Thank you for sharing this and breaking it down the way you did. I always kinda knew this but you gave it so much more clarity. Thank you.
It boggles my mind how Jehovah Witnesses are fully confident that Gods name was able to be removed from the Bible without questioning the ability for anything else to be removed. If “God’s name” was able to be altered (and God/Jehovah) stood still and did nothing, how can you trust the authenticity of such a book as a whole ?
"Does god have a name?" Well considering it's an imaginary figure that's completely made up you can theoretically call it whatever you want. But also since it isn't real the actual answer is no. No it does not.
What if his name is Steve?
god is fictional. still, god can have a name. Fictional things usually do. F.e. Legolas, Mickey Mouse, or Ra (also a god)
Personally, i think god could be real but I’m also a pagan who doesn’t believe in the traditional sense of a god
@@istvansipos9940 Fictional things can be assigned imaginary names like the ones you pointed out, sure. But that's not what the question the person in the video was asking.
No his real name is Morgan Freeman.
Facts
Ah yes. The all knowing universal narrator.
Zeus is the god of Lightning. The Greek god of the sky is Uranus.
Yes. But Uranus is the PRIMORDIAL god of the sky but he was killed by his titan son Kronos. Then when the gods overthrew the titans Zeus became the new god of the sky.
He’s the god of sky and thunder, but I think primarily thunder
His name will be changed to Urectum
I’d love to see a video about how the US military fits into the B.I.T.E model. Because I mean while it is working for the government it also just FEELS very culty. With all the chanting while working out, to the loosing your phone during basic training, and the not being able to talk about certain things. I don’t know it just FEELS very off
Thank you TA for the excellent etymology lesson.
major hint #1: the word of god should transcend translation issues. if it was indeed the word of god, it should translate *precisely* across all languages, since he allegedly created them all. if he's jehova or yahweh shouldn't even be a question. there should be exactly zero questions in a book that's meant to be the word of a higher power
To piggyback off your thought if I may...
I was around the religion since age 5 I'm 50 now and never baptized, saying that to say they have changed so many things to fit the current infrastructure of the world its crazy!
Example...
Back in the 70s and 80s social media would have been deemed the actual devil and no one would have been on Fb ect,now everyone is on fb,seems to me that's following the world,when they preach being in the world but not apart of it🤔
And now it's OK to attend college when back in my day, they told me not to pursue college because the new system would need manual skills to help build the new world,this was over 30yrs ago I could have went to school to be a doctor and lawyer in that time smh and the world is still hear and their still corrupting young minds to their bs because we all know the end is coming soon.😑
I like your tangent! It's very informative.
his name is DonExist
the funniest part about religion is how each can be traced back to one another if you want to take the time. that said, they are all connected, yet they all fight with each other wanting daddies attention.
Why would anyone imagine that God needs a name? When Moses asked God His name the answer was I AM WHO I AM.
I used to talk to JW . I would bring things up and they would “explain”. The name of god was supposed to be important so Jahova was where you send your prayers. Then the name Jesus would come up, so I would ask is it Jesus , yesuwa, yeshuwa, or whatever. They brought in a senior JW to guide me skillfully though the Bible but I would do the “and it goes on to say” trick. That was fun for me
One small correction: Vuv as a consonant actually does make a V sound, not a W sound. The confusion I think comes from the fact that Vuv is used just as much if not more as a silent vowel carrier than an actual consonant. 5 years of Hebrew school and while I can't speak the language, I can phonetically read the writing.
Although this brings up an interesting memory of when I was a preteen and I said to a Rabbi "Hey, I figured this out! We can never break the commandment of taking the Lord's name in vain because his name is never written with vowels, so we don't actually know what the vowels were supposed to be! They could be anything for all we know!" And I was brushed off with a "it doesn't work like that" and no further ecplanation. One more early crack in my faith in religion.
Thank you for this wonderful presentation is it available in written form thank you in advance
Congratulations on making it to 300k!
Well, at least that finally explains how Yahweh ended up in the Holy Land. The area was relatively civilized in the Bronze Age & heavily fought over by the Egyptians & Hittites. Hittites were Indo-Europeans &, in ways we haven't fully explained yet historically, distantly related to Celtic peoples, not to mention the Indo-European race- also known, depending on where you're from as Eurasians, Turkics & Aryans- are the people that Caucasians, or white people, broke away from. All over Europe, when people began learning metallurgy, they reappropriated a pre-existing deity in their pantheons as the god of metallurgy- almost always, it would seem, a storm god or fire god. So, other cultures bring metallurgy into the Holy Land for the first time & the people there adopt the same practice, but with a twist. The closely related tribal peoples south of them, like the Midianites, called Ba'al Yahweh. That was their storm god. Instead of turning Ba'al into their metallurgy god, they divided him using the name used by their relatives to the south & it became two deities for two different things. And, of course, all over this entire region, there is a practice of cities or areas taking up a "patron deity" as their local protector & of the utmost importance. These people, when finally freed from the yokes of Egyptian & Hittite civilization, made up their minds & chose Yahweh, out of all those they believed in.
So is this after they fled Egypt? And are these people Cananites?
@@danielyoung2641 They were never slaves in Egypt. From the way they use the term compared to actual history, they just seem to have used the euphemism "slaves" in place of conquered, just like they later do with the Babylonians, except, in this case, it eventually contributed to this story about their ancestors having been slaves in Egypt. From before the time of the Hyksos migrating into Egypt until the Bronze Age collapse, the Holy Land was pretty much divided between Egypt in the south & the Hittites from the north, who were constantly fighting over the region. But, Egypt went into a steep decline at roughly the same time as the Hittite Empire collapsed & that left the people of the Holy Land free to do as they wished. No migration of new people entered that region.
Still, on the timeline of things, this means that Yahweh was just the main protectorate deity of the Judeans & Israelites (which would imply, for instance, the first commandment originally just meant that Yahweh is the deity you worship first & foremost, not the only deity you worship), though he wasn't particularly important in the grand scheme of the local religion, which seems to have largely remained the same as what the Canaanites had already been practicing, until the Babylonian invasion. Then, high ranking people of Judea & Israel were taken prisoner to live in the capitol city to keep the rest of their people in check. There, they decided that they screwed something up religiously & that is the only explanation why they could ever possibly be conquered by another people, realized how much of a connection there was between the gods they worshipped & those of other people's around them- particularly the Mesopotamians & Egyptians- & remade the religion as a monotheistic one where Yahweh was the only deity & pushed that on their people once they were able to finally go home, after the Babylonian Empire collapsed.
@@MrChristianDT Wow, thank you for the time to explain that to me... Know one has ever made that so clear... learn a lot today between you & Telltale!
Of course, there was also heavy influence from Sumerian/Babylonian/Assyrian (same thing theologically) religion on the region. Sumerian theology has a creator god and a leader god, and all the other gods are under the leader god (although some parts had the creator be the leader). Judaism does something similar, and takes it far enough to create practical monotheism. So God can be unique and still have a consort, and you can believe in multiple deities but worship only one.
Pretty tasty food for thought.
Were you saying that scholarship is leaning toward classing the ancient Indo-Aryans and Anatolians into a pretty coherent ethnic stock within the greater I-E group? And that the Celts share greater if distant affinity with them than with their ostensibly closer neighbors, like the Italic and Germanic?
When I was at high school my Religious Studies teacher had a PhD (technically DPhil) in Classical Greek from Oxford, she once explained this to us in class but it totally went over our heads at the time. Good teacher, evangelical though the class was never made aware of her beliefs.
Thank you for explaining this in a way even I could understand this time 😜.
Sorry I wasn't wearing socks before watching this.
Mr Mythos has a great video about Yahwey actually being a dragon using scripture. Worth checking out
"I talk to god, but the sky is empty." - Sylvia Plath
Hello! I’m a Jehovah Witness myself and YESS! I agree, Gods name is YHWH. Gods name in Hebrew language is YHWH. Daniel 7:14 says “And to him there were given rulership, honor, and a kingdom, that the peoples, nations, and language groups should all serve him. His rulership is an everlasting rulership that will not pass away, and his kingdom will not be destroyed.” Gods name in English is Jehovah, Gods name in Japanese is
エホバ (Ehoba) Gods name in Hindi is यहोवा (Yahova) Gods name in Russian is Иегова (Iyegova) Gods name in Italian is Geova, Gods name in French is Jéhovah Gods nane in Chinese is 耶和华 (Yēhéhuá). He’s the God of all the nations and language. Thank you for showing me your perspective. It well help me a lot during service.
this is such an interesting/enlightening video. I was lied to my whole life
Anyone else loves just watching the drawings???
6:00 love that sign. I never get any religious people (or any people) knocking on my door. I kind of wish they would so I'd have a reason to buy your sign. It's very cool.
Naming the Canaanite pantheon definitely knocked my socks off! Those names were all familiar to me and it definitely makes a lot of sense.
its not true...did you do any research at all or did you just beleive what a random youtuber said?
Not sure when it happened, but congrats on 300k
Your research for what is accurately factual is a word of fresh breath...lol, I too was a JW, by choice, not raised in it, and I seen the hypocrisy within most involved and immediately acted to the red flags and publicly denounced them. I study religion, scholastic and personal, and your videos teach me new things, thanks so much.
Congrats on 300K 🎉
That name give me chills. Thanks for this video
Robert Sepehr is an AMAZING anthropologist and has many videos on RUclips and covers this subject amount others. Several of his videos have been deleted by RUclips but he keeps on going. I recommend listening to him!
This reminds me of when I was little and my sister and I would fight and start pestering our mom. She would say, "I'm changing my name to bitch, figure it out of one of you is about to get grounded." That's no fair mom, you can't have a forbidden name!
I literally rambled about how I looked at the first few pages of Genesis last night. Like literally last night I couldn’t sleep and went on a ramble about how the old testament is a pantheon. Until a god came along was like I am the real yahweh, and take down the false idols of Asherah.
God's name is Panchito, he told me in a dream 🙏
Okay bozo
He told me that his name was Kevin.
@@jacketrussell nah his name is Kyle brah, told me when I was out cold at a frat party
@@thereinthetrees_5626 Okay bozo
@@AthosJosue nah nah, gods name is Joe, he told me in a dream 🙏
Elizabeth, Hannah and so on ARE English translations. Names are often adapted to the target language, which is understandable for pronunciation, but still not the original name.
Yahowa is spelled with a double V not a double U that's why it was replaced by a single V it was never pronounced like "w"
thank you awesome research and video!
It's funny the creator of the universe would want the correct name used, but be so vague about what it should be.
Almost as funny as a singular being having a name in the first place. Who gave it the name?
Hey TellTale, quick question. When I was in Catholic school, I learned about some beliefs in that Jesus wasn’t fully God or fully human. Catholics believe in the hypostatic union, and I was wondering if Jehovah’s Witnesses believed in the same thing or not. If anyone else has an answer I’d love to hear it!! Thanks!
They don't :)
@@BrentWalker999 No they don't they are Arians.
The hypostatic union is actually Christ Jesus is BOTH fully God and fully man. Not that He wasn’t.
@@juliaboon9741 I meant that some people believe that he is neither fully God or fully man; I know that the Hypostatic Union is that Jesus is fully God and fully human. Sorry for the confusion!
@@Zorbnog Oh. I guess I read that wrong. Haha.
" J " letter is discover during 14th to 15th century by italian in sound dg. J letter become additonal in alphabet letter.
All the pictures of the greek gods were totally wrong. They did not even care to google them.