One continued thing I plan to do with every other 9mm revolver video from here on out that I forgot to do in this video, is check for bullet creep on the last remaining round after 4 are fired over the chronograph. In some other videos I have not released yet, I colored the 5th bullet in the cylinder with black marker around where the case mouth and bullet meet, so it's easy to tell if there is bullet creep. FYI I 'bullet creep' tested the Blazer 115 gr FMJ that I shot in my unboxing video, and just two shots pulled the remaining bullets 1/4" out of the case and the 3rd shot completely removed the remaining bullets from the cases. What was basically happening in my unboxing video was that the last two rounds still fired with the bullets removed because the cylinder throat had enough grip to hold the bullets and there was still enough pressure to fire the bullets fine. Defensive ammunition especial LE ammo shouldn't have that issue due to bullet sealant acting as a glue, but i'm finding this is a huge thing to be careful about with a 9mm revolver.
@@nothim7321 I've known about it for a long time. I just never personally owned a semi auto caliber revolver, other than the S&W Governor that can fire .45 ACP.
@CyborgZeta semi auto rounds aren't really crimped that tightly. There is generally no need, the magazine often helps keep the bullet in the case, and the recoil impulse is lessened due to the spring and slide absorbing some of the energy after firing. It can still happen with more stout loads that haven't been crimped correctly even in the guns they are designed for, and does tend to be more of an issue with lighter weight revolvers, because they have even less momentum to overcome.
@GunSam I notic3d it for the first time in a Ruger redhawk dual chambered in .45 ACP and .45 colt. The 200 grain +p rounds would jump, a little clear acrylic nail polish would help with that issue for a little bit.
I knew this was coming as soon as that 905 showed up. The next video is .357 in the 605 vs. 9mm in the 905 -- no doubt! At that point we'll see that the 9mm in a revolver kind of splits the difference between the .38 Special and the .357. Great stuff!
Great video! I have a Taurus 692 3". With the changeable cylinder, I can fire 9mm, 38 spl, .357. I got it during the COVID shutdown and it was nice being able to switch calibers depending on what I could afford.
Sam good video as always. For you and your viewers charter arms has their pit bull line of revolvers in 9, 40, 45, and 380 Calibers. They have special extractors on the ejector that eject the semi auto cases. If I ever win the lottery I will buy you one of each ! Keep up the good work and thank you for all your hard work for us 😁
In 40 and 380? 👍🏼👏🏼 That's rare, isn't it? I like these two calibers in semi autos, more than 9 or 45. Will look into the charter arms. Thanks for letting us know.
I was surprised that the 125 grain .38 Special did as well as it did. I much prefer the 110 grain SJHP option. Both did well for basic hollow point offerings. Thanks for sharing! 👍❤️
It looked to me like the 9mm tumbled too, on the Real World Simulation. When the 9mm bullet came to rest, it looked like it was pointing towards the camera. Tumbling could also account for 1) the "swirls" visible in the wound tract, 2) the bullet terminal trajectory visibly being curved off bore line, and 3) some of the petals/jacket being turned "upward." So while the 9mm appeared to leave a wider wound tract, one could argue that the 38 actually demonstrated better "Real World performance," because it maintained more straight line penetration, meaning it would be less likely to exit out of a body by striking, say, a humerus on a side thoracic shot, and to instead continue on through, straight into the chest cavity.
Thank you I’m very thankful for your studies and observations 9mm has come a long way and if we lived in a civilized world I would be content with an air weight.38 it seems that there is less respect for human life than when I was a kid . You put out great subject matter
Sam that's great you're testing a 9mm wheelgun! I think the winner from that will be Punch. TOMORROW morning my MODERN MEAT Target Critical Duty 124+ vs 135+ both short and long barrels! I fired 38 Punch in the 16 ounce LW BUDGET Bling yesterday end of my review and it was low recoil like you said and Hyrdashok Deep not much more w my Custom Wolf Grips on it. Cheers
I am a bit hesitant to test Underwood and Buffalo Bore +P+ because it's likely i'll get some bullet creep. I still have some Federal 9BPLE +P+ that I would test though, I can see the blue sealant on the cartridges.
@GunSam don't waste it if you do just shoot enough to get 3 rd average and no plinking at the end. I'm excited to see ur hst test in it. I really think any tests you do you should save 5-10 rounds of whatever you buy. Dark times may be coming. I mentioned you in vid I filmed yesterday about the 38punch being low recoil. Actually, I remember a lot carried 9bple in their 940 snubs as a BUG back in the day. Tomorrow Morning my Modern Meat Target Critical Duty Battle 124+ vs 135+ both short and long barrels.
I was torn between the 905, 605, & the 856 and ended up going with 905.... Thanks for the video brother, you never fail to lead me in the right direction 👍
Wolff Springs has a reduced power spring set for Taurus 605, no mention of the 905 but I'm guessing they may be the same. Besides that, some Dremel work with fine polish compound would ease up all the drag and turn that thing into something just as good as your 605 or better. Throw a mirror finish on those chambers too and 9mm probably just falling out every time. Great video GS. Looking forward to the next.
They've got these in .38 +P for only about 50 cents/round, even cheaper than the Remington UMC.......great to see a review on these. I don't carry +p in my 605, but I have them in my speed strips. Great video!
Shot from whatever range you think is good. Screw the background junk. I was raised in North GA and still have junk all over the place. Another good video. Thanks.
Super excited about your 905. I have both of those(605,905) in the Taurus small frame magnum frames. Going to be some great toe to toe 38/357 vs 9mm testing from identical platforms in snub revolvers. That's cool! Galloway and Wolff have great spring kits that will lighten that trigger and not sacrifice reliability. They're cheap. I know you may want to keep the 905 stock for testing sake, but that's a revolver 101 mod as I'm sure you know. You won't have to wait five years😅
I need to find a box or two of that Winchester 38, I think it might be the load I've been looking for...deep penetration but still some expansion. Thanks Sam!
@GunSam I've been looking into the Remington version too but the Winchester seems to be more consistent. Any recommendations on similar loads? I want something that will penetrate deep but still expand or deform a little bit. I'm carrying a 642 if it helps. For now I'm going with +p SWCs from Double Tap while I keep researching snub nose loads
Nice comparison. I was impressed with the consistency in penetration with the .38 Special. Nevertheless, the short barrel too advantage of the extra oooph of the 9mm. Either would certainly cause a water bed to leak into the apartment downstairs.
I'd be interested to see some 147 9mm from the Taurus. See if it gets to expansion velocity. Based off of your last video it looks like the revolver is doing 50 fps less than its equivalent barrel length in a semi auto.
I tested some yesterday. Didn't seem to change anything. That 50 FPS thing still existed. But it was standard pressure ammo and one variety thus far. Hopefully different ammo will work out differently.
The TK are definitely more durable but I would never try to carry carry a concealed carry reload in a moon clip. A strip or a magazine like you are using is safer.
@@BrianF-wv5cl For various reasons, I've always been much happier carrying a small revolver than an auto. I haven't run into the problems with the moon clips that you guys have, but I may look for a way to carry them that protects them from easily breaking. I've never done particularly well with speed loaders. I may just switch to carrying my 386 Mountain Lite and hope that seven shots are enough.
Yeah that's why the Charter Arms Pitbull in 9mm is a good option: no moon clips. I just noticed too that now Charter is offering the "Pitbull Combo," which comes with both a 9mm Luger and 357 Mag cylinder, which would allow testing cartridges of both chamberings out of literally the same pistol. $455 MSRP, so the price point is essentially identical to the Taurus 905. Technically $15 more...but you get two cylinders and don't need moon clips.
@GunSam my "MODERN MEAT TARGET" Critical Duty Battle 124+ vs 135+ from both Short and Long Barrels and wondering your thoughts on these .... Also, once that trigger gets worked in there is a cool 10 Round Bakersfield LE Qual I did the other day first time with a Budget Bling Snub that may be a good comparison. I can send you some mid reduction springs for it, but as you know a Ton of 9mm has tough rimers so will cause issues where as in .38 and .357 it wouldn't.
The difficulty in finding great 38spl defensive loadings has more to do with ammunition manufacturers than with the cartridge itself. It is a shame, but it requires more research and work to find great 38spl.
Wonder how 1000 fps (4 in)158 grain swc 38 special ammo would do here? I know JJR ammo sells some.. took me forever to find anyone actually making that stuff. I actually called the dude and he made me a batch..good stuff
Great test. Hoping to see some hot buffalo bore vs some hot 9mm to see best case example. I was looking at the 905 after you got yours and it's almost double the weight of my LCR 😮
Taurus weights are often misleading. Anytime I have weighed one, I have found that the revolver weight they list is loaded weight. Like the 605 for instance is 20 OZ, only 3 OZ more than my Magnum LCR. I think the 905 weighs about the same as the 605.
@@poobank Sounds like the weight for a .38 Special LCR. My mind naturally goes to the 9mm LCR which is something over 17 OZ VS the 9mm 905. I have carried 11 OZ snubs in the pocket and 24 OZ snubs in the pocket. To me they all feel the same weight in my pocket.
It will, but a moon clip would have to be used. You would also lose a bit of performance VS .380 ACP in a semi auto because a .380 ACP case is a bit smaller/thinner than a 9mm case despite using the same bullet diameter. So basically rather than just firing, the .380 ACP case would expand to fit the 9mm chamber and in that process, some of the energy that moves the bullet forward is wasted. Because the energy goes to the path of least resistance, in this case, the energy goes to expanding the case to fit the chamber, thus lowering the bullet velocity significantly.
@@BrianF-wv5cl Oh yeah I see what you mean I forgot them being shorter they would sink down into the cylinder. But yeah you would have to use some type of little clips or maybe little adapter rings that could drop down into the cylinders. A pointless experiment, but just a curiosity.
@@aarongreenfield9038 they would fire fine with the moon clips, but I mean....shooting ammo that's twice the price that on top of being weak, loses even more power, and on top of that having hot gas hitting the chamber ledges...just not something that interests me.
@@GunSam Oh yeah You're right and the shells expanding to fit the chamber it probably would also make them considerably harder to release from the cylinder I'm betting.
Clearly 9mm spanks 38 Spl! 🙂 I'm quite curious how a good 9mm load would do in comparison with a 110gr 357 Magnum load in those guns. I guess for "fairness", the 9mm should be a 115gr to keep the bullet weights close.
Not that I have noticed. If you use the bore brushes in the chambers there's a tad of a catch going on one way or another due to the chamber ledge, but it's nothing that really changes much during cleaning.
Comparisons are not competitions. Unless someone is mentally unstable and way too much into it, foaming at the mouth to see two basic things compared...I guess it's some sort of weird fanboy competition to them.
You will never get a full length video on the subject as it's not worth my time. Like the other person who commented said, you would lose velocity. While 9mm and .380 ACP use the same bullet diameter, the .380 ACP case is thinner, so some energy would be lost when the .380 ACP case expands and fire forms to the chamber walls. I have never tested this with 9mm/.380 ACP but have with other cartridges that were similar in other calibers. Generally at least 100 FPS would be lost VS the same .380 ACP ammo in a semi auto pistol.
One continued thing I plan to do with every other 9mm revolver video from here on out that I forgot to do in this video, is check for bullet creep on the last remaining round after 4 are fired over the chronograph. In some other videos I have not released yet, I colored the 5th bullet in the cylinder with black marker around where the case mouth and bullet meet, so it's easy to tell if there is bullet creep.
FYI I 'bullet creep' tested the Blazer 115 gr FMJ that I shot in my unboxing video, and just two shots pulled the remaining bullets 1/4" out of the case and the 3rd shot completely removed the remaining bullets from the cases. What was basically happening in my unboxing video was that the last two rounds still fired with the bullets removed because the cylinder throat had enough grip to hold the bullets and there was still enough pressure to fire the bullets fine.
Defensive ammunition especial LE ammo shouldn't have that issue due to bullet sealant acting as a glue, but i'm finding this is a huge thing to be careful about with a 9mm revolver.
Interesting. I thought bullet creep was only an issue with lightweight revolvers like the LCR?
It is a definite issue in revolvers firing semi-automatic designed ammo. I'm glad you realized it.
@@nothim7321 I've known about it for a long time. I just never personally owned a semi auto caliber revolver, other than the S&W Governor that can fire .45 ACP.
@CyborgZeta semi auto rounds aren't really crimped that tightly. There is generally no need, the magazine often helps keep the bullet in the case, and the recoil impulse is lessened due to the spring and slide absorbing some of the energy after firing. It can still happen with more stout loads that haven't been crimped correctly even in the guns they are designed for, and does tend to be more of an issue with lighter weight revolvers, because they have even less momentum to overcome.
@GunSam I notic3d it for the first time in a Ruger redhawk dual chambered in .45 ACP and .45 colt. The 200 grain +p rounds would jump, a little clear acrylic nail polish would help with that issue for a little bit.
A lot of snub nose guys out here, we really appreciate your work!
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I knew this was coming as soon as that 905 showed up. The next video is .357 in the 605 vs. 9mm in the 905 -- no doubt!
At that point we'll see that the 9mm in a revolver kind of splits the difference between the .38 Special and the .357.
Great stuff!
I have more .38 Special VS 9mm videos coming, did get HST .357 Mag and HST 9mm+P though, just haven't filmed that one yet.
Nothing earth shattering but both preformed adequately.
Great video! I have a Taurus 692 3". With the changeable cylinder, I can fire 9mm, 38 spl, .357. I got it during the COVID shutdown and it was nice being able to switch calibers depending on what I could afford.
Indeed!
Oooh I wanted one of those but couldn’t find one. Ended up getting a 357 tracker, 4”
The 9mm revolver is just what this channel needs.
This will open up a whole new range of 38 spcl vs. 9mm comparisons!!
Sam good video as always. For you and your viewers charter arms has their pit bull line of revolvers in 9, 40, 45, and 380 Calibers. They have special extractors on the ejector that eject the semi auto cases. If I ever win the lottery I will buy you one of each ! Keep up the good work and thank you for all your hard work for us 😁
In 40 and 380? 👍🏼👏🏼
That's rare, isn't it?
I like these two calibers in semi autos, more than 9 or 45.
Will look into the charter arms. Thanks for letting us know.
I love these revolver caliber comparisons
Same here...and he is one of the only ones doing them!
I was surprised that the 125 grain .38 Special did as well as it did. I much prefer the 110 grain SJHP option. Both did well for basic hollow point offerings. Thanks for sharing! 👍❤️
It looked to me like the 9mm tumbled too, on the Real World Simulation.
When the 9mm bullet came to rest, it looked like it was pointing towards the camera. Tumbling could also account for 1) the "swirls" visible in the wound tract, 2) the bullet terminal trajectory visibly being curved off bore line, and 3) some of the petals/jacket being turned "upward."
So while the 9mm appeared to leave a wider wound tract, one could argue that the 38 actually demonstrated better "Real World performance," because it maintained more straight line penetration, meaning it would be less likely to exit out of a body by striking, say, a humerus on a side thoracic shot, and to instead continue on through, straight into the chest cavity.
Thank you I’m very thankful for your studies and observations 9mm has come a long way and if we lived in a civilized world I would be content with an air weight.38 it seems that there is less respect for human life than when I was a kid . You put out great subject matter
To get reliable expansion with 2" barrels use 115 grain JHP 9 mm and 38 Special 110 grain +P JHP.
that 9mm revolver is a good addition!
Good test . Thanks . Tells how the ammo works. TK make good moonclips for the 905 . They are better then the ones that came with the gun.
Sam that's great you're testing a 9mm wheelgun! I think the winner from that will be Punch. TOMORROW morning my MODERN MEAT Target Critical Duty 124+ vs 135+ both short and long barrels! I fired 38 Punch in the 16 ounce LW BUDGET Bling yesterday end of my review and it was low recoil like you said and Hyrdashok Deep not much more w my Custom Wolf Grips on it. Cheers
I am a bit hesitant to test Underwood and Buffalo Bore +P+ because it's likely i'll get some bullet creep. I still have some Federal 9BPLE +P+ that I would test though, I can see the blue sealant on the cartridges.
@GunSam don't waste it if you do just shoot enough to get 3 rd average and no plinking at the end. I'm excited to see ur hst test in it. I really think any tests you do you should save 5-10 rounds of whatever you buy. Dark times may be coming. I mentioned you in vid I filmed yesterday about the 38punch being low recoil. Actually, I remember a lot carried 9bple in their 940 snubs as a BUG back in the day. Tomorrow Morning my Modern Meat Target Critical Duty Battle 124+ vs 135+ both short and long barrels.
I was torn between the 905, 605, & the 856 and ended up going with 905.... Thanks for the video brother, you never fail to lead me in the right direction 👍
Oh hell yeah you know I'm clicking on this at the dog park!
Another fun video. Definitely 38 wadcutters for me if I had to make a choice to punch perfect holes in my paper targets.
Great demo. Very interesting to see the performance of a 9mm out of a short barrel revolver . 👍
Back in the day, Jeff Quinn noted how the 9mm did not lose any real velocity in a short barrel. He was reviewing a Charter Arms 9mm snub.
Wolff Springs has a reduced power spring set for Taurus 605, no mention of the 905 but I'm guessing they may be the same.
Besides that, some Dremel work with fine polish compound would ease up all the drag and turn that thing into something just as good as your 605 or better. Throw a mirror finish on those chambers too and 9mm probably just falling out every time.
Great video GS. Looking forward to the next.
They've got these in .38 +P for only about 50 cents/round, even cheaper than the Remington UMC.......great to see a review on these. I don't carry +p in my 605, but I have them in my speed strips. Great video!
I hope you can compare the heavier 147gr 9mm and see what they can do. Appreciate the great content. Keep it up.
Shot from whatever range you think is good. Screw the background junk. I was raised in North GA and still have junk all over the place. Another good video. Thanks.
Keep calling them like you see them , nobody should be able to say anything negative about that. Great video Sam...
Two honest performers, I'd say. The 9mm mag as a reloader is a practical idea.
Was just looking at this 9mil round. Thanks!
Always interesting
Thanks for sharing
Super excited about your 905. I have both of those(605,905) in the Taurus small frame magnum frames. Going to be some great toe to toe 38/357 vs 9mm testing from identical platforms in snub revolvers. That's cool!
Galloway and Wolff have great spring kits that will lighten that trigger and not sacrifice reliability. They're cheap. I know you may want to keep the 905 stock for testing sake, but that's a revolver 101 mod as I'm sure you know. You won't have to wait five years😅
That was an interesting comparison. Thanks.
Snubs! Great!
I'm not sure if I've ever commented on one of your videos, but you do a great job with your videos and shooting.
Thanks a lot!
thanks for the comparison. keep-up the good work!👍
Hi gun Sam another awsome video. Good shooting. 😊
GS. Thanks, always a good and interesting video. Thanks for sharing and take care.
I need to find a box or two of that Winchester 38, I think it might be the load I've been looking for...deep penetration but still some expansion. Thanks Sam!
midwayUSA has them.
@carlschumacher3257 thanks, I'll have to check into it, do you happen to know what their shipping costs? Midway isn't one of my regular sources
@@magnum_0710 i sure don't. but you can always cancel the order if the shipping cost is too much.
@@magnum_0710 It's the exact same ammo as the Winchester USA (white box) as well, if you can find them in the SJHP version.
@GunSam I've been looking into the Remington version too but the Winchester seems to be more consistent. Any recommendations on similar loads? I want something that will penetrate deep but still expand or deform a little bit. I'm carrying a 642 if it helps. For now I'm going with +p SWCs from Double Tap while I keep researching snub nose loads
Nice comparison. I was impressed with the consistency in penetration with the .38 Special. Nevertheless, the short barrel too advantage of the extra oooph of the 9mm. Either would certainly cause a water bed to leak into the apartment downstairs.
Good comparison, thanks.
great video Sam
So glad u did this test!!!
U got gr8 test n I always can’t wait for u to come on!!
Good advice 👍. Agree. Good results from the 9mm
Nice 👍
I'd be interested to see some 147 9mm from the Taurus. See if it gets to expansion velocity. Based off of your last video it looks like the revolver is doing 50 fps less than its equivalent barrel length in a semi auto.
I tested some yesterday. Didn't seem to change anything. That 50 FPS thing still existed. But it was standard pressure ammo and one variety thus far. Hopefully different ammo will work out differently.
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Those moon clips make the Taurus 9mm an attractive choice.
Downside of moon clips is bending which can cause light strikes or cause the cylinder to not rotate at all.
@@BrianF-wv5cl I've broken 3 of the 5 moon clips already. Almost impossible to use the ones Taurus provided.
The TK are definitely more durable but I would never try to carry carry a concealed carry reload in a moon clip. A strip or a magazine like you are using is safer.
@@BrianF-wv5cl For various reasons, I've always been much happier carrying a small revolver than an auto. I haven't run into the problems with the moon clips that you guys have, but I may look for a way to carry them that protects them from easily breaking. I've never done particularly well with speed loaders. I may just switch to carrying my 386 Mountain Lite and hope that seven shots are enough.
Yeah that's why the Charter Arms Pitbull in 9mm is a good option: no moon clips.
I just noticed too that now Charter is offering the "Pitbull Combo," which comes with both a 9mm Luger and 357 Mag cylinder, which would allow testing cartridges of both chamberings out of literally the same pistol.
$455 MSRP, so the price point is essentially identical to the Taurus 905. Technically $15 more...but you get two cylinders and don't need moon clips.
Good content. I've been interested in seeing how a 9mm revolver performs.
Thank you Greg.
Didn't know the white box hollow points are now black box hollow points
Yeah, makes sense though. Used to all be white box. Either white box FMJ or white box JHP. A simple color change for just the JHP is a good change.
Please do a video on best 357 magnum ammo for snubnose.
@GunSam my "MODERN MEAT TARGET" Critical Duty Battle 124+ vs 135+ from both Short and Long Barrels and wondering your thoughts on these .... Also, once that trigger gets worked in there is a cool 10 Round Bakersfield LE Qual I did the other day first time with a Budget Bling Snub that may be a good comparison. I can send you some mid reduction springs for it, but as you know a Ton of 9mm has tough rimers so will cause issues where as in .38 and .357 it wouldn't.
Snubbie heaven here!
The difficulty in finding great 38spl defensive loadings has more to do with ammunition manufacturers than with the cartridge itself. It is a shame, but it requires more research and work to find great 38spl.
Wonder how 1000 fps (4 in)158 grain swc 38 special ammo would do here? I know JJR ammo sells some.. took me forever to find anyone actually making that stuff.
I actually called the dude and he made me a batch..good stuff
I have not tested this yet, but win 9mm defense 147gr is rumored to be above saami and below saami plus p. Its decent i guess.
Thanks! Interesting comparison. For me 38 special in the pocket 442 or 9MM in the IWB hellcat.
Or? Just curious if you have two functional arms. Belt gun primary side, BUG weakside pocket. 9 reasons to Carry a Bug
@@DanTheWolfman Yes sir, I do, but so far it is one at a time for me. I'll look through your content for that one. Thanks
Great test. Hoping to see some hot buffalo bore vs some hot 9mm to see best case example. I was looking at the 905 after you got yours and it's almost double the weight of my LCR 😮
Taurus weights are often misleading. Anytime I have weighed one, I have found that the revolver weight they list is loaded weight. Like the 605 for instance is 20 OZ, only 3 OZ more than my Magnum LCR. I think the 905 weighs about the same as the 605.
@@GunSam it says the LCR is only 13.5 oz. So easy to carry being that light
@@poobank Sounds like the weight for a .38 Special LCR. My mind naturally goes to the 9mm LCR which is something over 17 OZ VS the 9mm 905. I have carried 11 OZ snubs in the pocket and 24 OZ snubs in the pocket. To me they all feel the same weight in my pocket.
I personally would just stick with the 38 special. However, I would like to see a comparison of 44 special and 44 magnum.
I always wanted a 9mm auto rim. Thought it would be perfect for a snub nose revolver.
I've been curious if the 905 and G3c would have close velocity since both have about the same bullet travel
.38 spl
I'm wondering if 380 will Chamber into that revolver, or maybe even fire in it? since they are the same caliber as 9mm Just shorter casing.
With moon clips they probably would work, but might get some light primer strikes because the cartridges would just be hanging on the clip.
It will, but a moon clip would have to be used. You would also lose a bit of performance VS .380 ACP in a semi auto because a .380 ACP case is a bit smaller/thinner than a 9mm case despite using the same bullet diameter. So basically rather than just firing, the .380 ACP case would expand to fit the 9mm chamber and in that process, some of the energy that moves the bullet forward is wasted. Because the energy goes to the path of least resistance, in this case, the energy goes to expanding the case to fit the chamber, thus lowering the bullet velocity significantly.
@@BrianF-wv5cl Oh yeah I see what you mean I forgot them being shorter they would sink down into the cylinder. But yeah you would have to use some type of little clips or maybe little adapter rings that could drop down into the cylinders. A pointless experiment, but just a curiosity.
@@aarongreenfield9038 they would fire fine with the moon clips, but I mean....shooting ammo that's twice the price that on top of being weak, loses even more power, and on top of that having hot gas hitting the chamber ledges...just not something that interests me.
@@GunSam Oh yeah You're right and the shells expanding to fit the chamber it probably would also make them considerably harder to release from the cylinder I'm betting.
@GunSam, Charter Arms makes a 9mm revolver that does not require a moon clip. Any experience with Charter Arms revolvers?
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Can you do a 9mm vs 357mag please?
Clearly 9mm spanks 38 Spl! 🙂
I'm quite curious how a good 9mm load would do in comparison with a 110gr 357 Magnum load in those guns. I guess for "fairness", the 9mm should be a 115gr to keep the bullet weights close.
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9 mill ammo costs half Lolol
When I hand load, it all costs the same to me
Is the nine mill revolver more difficult to clean than the 38?
No, the same
Not that I have noticed. If you use the bore brushes in the chambers there's a tad of a catch going on one way or another due to the chamber ledge, but it's nothing that really changes much during cleaning.
The cylinder in both guns are the same lenght? I cant understand why they dont make the cylinder shorter to 9mm.
Ok good one - the 9mm 'won' this one IMHO. Yes it is a competition lol. Now, lets see .357 Mag vs 9 mm. You have a 605 there after all.
Comparisons are not competitions. Unless someone is mentally unstable and way too much into it, foaming at the mouth to see two basic things compared...I guess it's some sort of weird fanboy competition to them.
@@GunSam oh I thought it was a fun competition… 😎
Do 9mm vs .357 snubbies
When are we gonna see if 380 can be fired out of the 905 ...maybe vs 38sw out of the 38spcl revolver
It would fire, you'd probably get velocity issues.
Taurus has a 380 revolver too. Steel, 1.75 inch barrel, bobbed hammer, 5 shot, 16oz, blued or stainless
You will never get a full length video on the subject as it's not worth my time. Like the other person who commented said, you would lose velocity. While 9mm and .380 ACP use the same bullet diameter, the .380 ACP case is thinner, so some energy would be lost when the .380 ACP case expands and fire forms to the chamber walls. I have never tested this with 9mm/.380 ACP but have with other cartridges that were similar in other calibers. Generally at least 100 FPS would be lost VS the same .380 ACP ammo in a semi auto pistol.
Correction, it has aluminum frame
Go watch TriggerBarPhilosophy to see what a waste of time and money that is
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