I can actually say i was there 😁 sat in oval turn 4. Lots of action there. Those cars sounded amazing. Great win for hammy, great race for vet-tel lol. I totally forgot about the marshall literally throwing the blue flag 🤣
Thanks Zeddie! Incredible to think that Raikkonen was 4th with 32 points, 26 behind the championship leader, and still got the title in the end. But the leader wasn't mighty Alonso, rather the future all-mighty Hamilton! McLaren didn't know how to handle this and we all know it after 17 years talking about this story. Massa was 3rd... if he had worked harder he could've been the world champion. What a year. And a lesson that McLaren doesn't apply, haven't learnt at all, making the same mistakes today even with different people in charge and after being down in the dumps. Lastly, young Vettel, first race, yeah... no need to say more
ITV's intros (with the sped-up shaky footage of the local scene) were always dreadful, but this one was another level, especially with the Hamilton pole graphic at the end of it.
Solid performance from both McLarens. Lewis has always had a special bond with North America for F1 events, mostly because it was home to his initial poles and wins he earned in an illustrious career.
Always had a fair amount of backing from black-American celebs too. Pharrell was at the height of his powers and was with Lewis’s dad both here and in Canada
21 years ago German rookie Vettel was a great Kubica's substitute, he started 7th and finished 8th in a debut F1 race. Everything was looking good for a future 4-time world champion. Indianapolis farewell and second Hamilton's win in a row. Thanks a lot Zeddie, we go! 🏁✌
It was 17 years ago! However he was 20 years of age I was born the same year as him 1987. He was 21 the following year, where he famously scored a race win for Toro Rosso at Monza.
And Kimi's pace once he'd cleared the slower traffic of Heidfeld and Kovalainen (and the rate he gained on Massa) should have been a warning for them too.
@@VenusDoom891 regardless of Kimi's sensational pace, he was still 17 points off with 2 races to go. Mclaren threw it away, probably instructed to do so "convincingly" after Spygate. Can't help but wonder how Lewis would've entered the Shanghai pit lane if he'd have actually been told that he was on tyres so bald they were down to the canvas. Also, Mclaren sacked Mike Coughlan immediately and provided the FIA all of their technical drawings related to car updates to prove that not a single piece of Ferrari intel or technology made it to their car. I'm not sure lying about how many people had been given intel from Coughlan constitutes "cheating their asses off", but I guess the £100m fine suggests otherwise
Raikkonen was leagues faster than any other driver in that final stint. Wow. Most fans thought nothing of it. But to those that had watched him since the beginning of his career, we knew - the Iceman was back.
@@Praise_God369 Raikkonen was far quicker in the final stint. He was being held up by Massa massively and Kimi set fastest lap despite this. Two different classes of driver. Massa had all the familiarity with the tyres and car, and still lost to Kimi that season.
Just realised what a horrible circuit this was for Ralf (in massive contrast to his brother!). Retired from 2nd in 2000, retired in 2001 when nowhere, collision with Montoya in 2002, also spun out in 2003, massive crash in 2004 which caused him to miss several races, had the quali crash in 2005 which led to Michelin-gate, retired late on from the points in 2006 and out first lap in 2007. Nightmare for a top driver! (And I thought Montoya's record was bad there but he at least had one points finish)
Yes terrible luck for Ralf Schumacher at Indianapolis. I remember his crash in 2004 and have seen it several times time since. Micheal was concerned for him when he drove past.
On the other hand it was a great circuit for his current teammate Trulli. In the points every time apart from 2000 (though he qualified well and was taken out by Button) and 2005 where it wasn't his fault he was one of many Michelin runners who had no control over the situation, though he did get Toyota's first "pole" at the time!
@@VenusDoom891 If the FIA wasn't so greedy, refusing to take the safety of the drivers and themselves seriously; Trulli could've contended for the win and maybe just maybe Toyota could've won for the first time ever in F1, but that's another story for another day.
Until now Alonso had been under the impression he was Number 1 at McLaren, whilst Hamilton thought they were on equal footing. So when Alonso wasn’t eased through here, he lost all trust in the team.
I don't know for staying at Indianapolis, but for sure the U.S Grand Prix could've stayed on the 2008 schedule at a different track. The Indianapolis road layout today doesn't use any of the oval corners anymore it uses the front stretch, a hairpin turn in place of oval turn 1, and the infield road course.
@@zanemarte9877 - And it only gets used twice a year I understand. If ever Moto GP races there and for the Indy GP in the run up to the Indy 500. The only IndyCar race that uses a standing start rather than the rolling starts far more common in American racing.
If it wasn't for the FIA's greediness back in 2005 the U.S. Grand Prix wouldn't have been cut from the F1 schedule from 2008 until 2012 when COTA was built.
With Lewis winning first time at both locations wonder who’s the last driver to win both times on their first time in the USA at 2 separate circuit Fun fact Lewis record in North America from 2007-12 was either win or DNF lol and the order forms a palindrome too with Win Win DNF Win DNF Win Win
I think I might have already said this before, however thanks BIg Z, I was in NZ when these were live on TV, at 3am usually, nearly always fell asleep, and they didn't repeat them, kiwi's not interested enough I suppose, so although I think I saw them all, I didn't really, so glad you are putting these up, much appreciated.
Note how James Allen pronounced Vettel's name correctly when running through the grid order, then Brundle poisoned him into getting it wrong. I think it was mid-2011 before British commentary was correctly pronouncing his name again!
Rookies these days take years to mature even if on a competitive car and against a bad teammate. From the best rookie season to greatest of all time; Most poles, wins, best in the rain, and best in living rent free on idiot´s heads. Gotta love it.
Hamilton’s performance at Fuji that year in horrendous wet conditions was sensational! He also set the fastest lap of the race and was leaving Alonso behind who was also good in the wet.
@@tristanwhite3472What make Lewis rookie mythical is that 4 of the races he entered that years, he had never been to them ever in his junior career. He won two of them, that is greatness whether the Alonso fans wanna accept it out or not.
@@Don-Royall nothing to take from Lewis's debut but that car suit his driving style like a glow . alonso did prefered a more understeer car but all he got was an oversteer car ...at least he didnt spun off every 3 races like mr spunbastian
23:04 when the Mclarens were deep in backmarkers us interesting. James says he doesn't think the drivers lost any time. Alonso, definitely not. Wurz ceded track position from such a long way back in T1. Alonso went to the inside long before the braking point and Wurz backed right off to let him through. Hamilton definitely lost more time in the traffic together, and then Alonso followed through once a few drivers had made their point that they weren't all "monkeys at the back". And right on cue, Luizzi held him behind for an entire lap and almost cost him the lead of the race by giving Alonso a sniff on the next lap
How on earth was Alonso sabotaged here? he was outqualified and out-raced. Let's not forget until and including Monaco, Mclaren had been bringing Hamilton in early for fuel stops to ensure Alonso could beat him. If they'd carried on favouring one driver they'd have won the title well before Moseley told them to hand it to a Ferrari driver.
@@BonnetLicker86313agree with all of this except the handing over to Ferrari. McLaren drivers bottled it. First Alonso with Fuji which Lewis won btw so no sign of a handover happening given that pit Lewis on course to win the title in China and Kimi having very little chance of coming back unless Lewis didn't score in one of the races. Then Lewis in china. Lewis doesn't put it in the gravel, Kimi is out of the title race before Brazil
as he started...outbrakeing himself in the warmup lap ,spun off mid race ,team mate out ,crash under the saefty car ,crash on the cool down lap,and a couple of wins due to luck & flexi wings 😅
JAMES ALLEN 2:37 : "Can Hamilton live the American dream?" INTRO MOVIE 0:36 : "And as we all know, the American dream is Uncle Sam, fried chicken, one condor, two statues of liberty, and shooting a squad of football players and a baseball with a gun. Oh, and knocking over another landmark tower but with a giant donut" Jesus Harold Christ, now we know Indygate wasn't the only reason F1 left the states for a while.
He knew what was going on in McLaren, trying to favour their golden boy. They lost the drivers title because they've put all their hopes on the rookie, who unsurprisingly bottled it at the worst moment
3:22 "4.19 mile" - how do you fit that inside a 2.5 mile oval? Oh, "a little over 2.6 miles." James Allen might use "If I'm not mistaken" to get his words in order.
Hamilton moving late to block Alonso... Brundle - What's the beef? Schumacher moving late to block Barrichello at Hungary - Michael should receive a penalty.... Their Hamilton bias was evident from day 1 🤣🤣 Exact same as the way they all grovel at Norris' feet now lmao
Where did hamilton move late to block alonso you numpty? He always moved first but i guess we cant expect you to understand simple racing can we... And the schumacher move had a wall there since you are forgetting or maliciously ignoring it. If you are gonna try to be clever or cheeky at least be right, stupid mtfckr. Go watch Ziggo or whatever the hell its called now to learn what biased actually means. Let me know if you need any more lessons.
The Honda RA107 a dreadful car everything about was wrong terrible design. They went in a different direction with the design but it was completely the wrong direction.
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That intro video with all things American is top tier meme material
I can actually say i was there 😁 sat in oval turn 4. Lots of action there. Those cars sounded amazing. Great win for hammy, great race for vet-tel lol. I totally forgot about the marshall literally throwing the blue flag 🤣
I went to Silverstone that year Kimi Raikkonen won.
Thanks Zeddie! Incredible to think that Raikkonen was 4th with 32 points, 26 behind the championship leader, and still got the title in the end. But the leader wasn't mighty Alonso, rather the future all-mighty Hamilton! McLaren didn't know how to handle this and we all know it after 17 years talking about this story. Massa was 3rd... if he had worked harder he could've been the world champion. What a year. And a lesson that McLaren doesn't apply, haven't learnt at all, making the same mistakes today even with different people in charge and after being down in the dumps. Lastly, young Vettel, first race, yeah... no need to say more
That intro 😭
It gets stuck in the mind
ITV's intros (with the sped-up shaky footage of the local scene) were always dreadful, but this one was another level, especially with the Hamilton pole graphic at the end of it.
Solid performance from both McLarens. Lewis has always had a special bond with North America for F1 events, mostly because it was home to his initial poles and wins he earned in an illustrious career.
Always had a fair amount of backing from black-American celebs too. Pharrell was at the height of his powers and was with Lewis’s dad both here and in Canada
Lewis was and is hated here, except by the blacks who have no idea what f1 is, but support another black because he is black.
@@Sticktothemodels Lewis is hated in America.
@@paul123gggggggggno hes not.
@@_toyota no he isn’t 👍
That bmw was so beautiful 🥹
The final race in Indianapolis
Yeah
Unfortunately… I’d take this back to F1 calendar over any other NA track. Austin is really good too, but Indy got the vibe!
@AB-sk7lu except Austin, there's no other good track in the USA
The Brickyard!
@@Mohagnito94Road America smokes COTA all day.
Really good drive Kovalainen 5th best of the rest behind the 2 McLaren's and 2 Ferrari's. Top drive by him.
Been waiting for this 1. These keep me occupied during my lunch & downtime at work
This Hamilton kid seems legit.
Prost had 5 WDC as teammates
Lewis had 3 WDC as teammates
Very strong drivers and Prost is so underrated.
Sebastien Vettels first race
Yeah
Yeah
24:31 James Allen showing us nowadays how old this GP was in comparison to today's sponsors.
21 years ago German rookie Vettel was a great Kubica's substitute, he started 7th and finished 8th in a debut F1 race. Everything was looking good for a future 4-time world champion. Indianapolis farewell and second Hamilton's win in a row. Thanks a lot Zeddie, we go! 🏁✌
It was 17 years ago! However he was 20 years of age I was born the same year as him 1987. He was 21 the following year, where he famously scored a race win for Toro Rosso at Monza.
At this stage of the season you'd think how can McLaren fluff this one until it all comes to light that they were cheating their asses off.
And Kimi's pace once he'd cleared the slower traffic of Heidfeld and Kovalainen (and the rate he gained on Massa) should have been a warning for them too.
@@VenusDoom891 regardless of Kimi's sensational pace, he was still 17 points off with 2 races to go. Mclaren threw it away, probably instructed to do so "convincingly" after Spygate. Can't help but wonder how Lewis would've entered the Shanghai pit lane if he'd have actually been told that he was on tyres so bald they were down to the canvas. Also, Mclaren sacked Mike Coughlan immediately and provided the FIA all of their technical drawings related to car updates to prove that not a single piece of Ferrari intel or technology made it to their car. I'm not sure lying about how many people had been given intel from Coughlan constitutes "cheating their asses off", but I guess the £100m fine suggests otherwise
@@BonnetLicker86313 Max Mosely later admitted that only $5 Million was for the offence.
back to back first wins for lewis hamilton, like three other great champions nigel mansell, damon hill and mika hakkinen.
Raikkonen was leagues faster than any other driver in that final stint. Wow.
Most fans thought nothing of it.
But to those that had watched him since the beginning of his career, we knew - the Iceman was back.
Yupp almost as fast as his team mate ,who finished in front of him😅
@@Praise_God369 Raikkonen was far quicker in the final stint. He was being held up by Massa massively and Kimi set fastest lap despite this. Two different classes of driver. Massa had all the familiarity with the tyres and car, and still lost to Kimi that season.
1st Hamilton, 2nd Alonso, 3rd Massa, 4th Kimi Raikkonen, 5th Heikki Kovalainen, 6th Jarno Trulli, 7th Mark Webber, 8th Sebastian Vettel, 9th Giancarlo Fisichella,
Just realised what a horrible circuit this was for Ralf (in massive contrast to his brother!). Retired from 2nd in 2000, retired in 2001 when nowhere, collision with Montoya in 2002, also spun out in 2003, massive crash in 2004 which caused him to miss several races, had the quali crash in 2005 which led to Michelin-gate, retired late on from the points in 2006 and out first lap in 2007. Nightmare for a top driver! (And I thought Montoya's record was bad there but he at least had one points finish)
Yes terrible luck for Ralf Schumacher at Indianapolis. I remember his crash in 2004 and have seen it several times time since. Micheal was concerned for him when he drove past.
On the other hand it was a great circuit for his current teammate Trulli. In the points every time apart from 2000 (though he qualified well and was taken out by Button) and 2005 where it wasn't his fault he was one of many Michelin runners who had no control over the situation, though he did get Toyota's first "pole" at the time!
@@VenusDoom891 If the FIA wasn't so greedy, refusing to take the safety of the drivers and themselves seriously; Trulli could've contended for the win and maybe just maybe Toyota could've won for the first time ever in F1, but that's another story for another day.
Until now Alonso had been under the impression he was Number 1 at McLaren, whilst Hamilton thought they were on equal footing. So when Alonso wasn’t eased through here, he lost all trust in the team.
What a way for F1 to bid farewell to Indy. Had it not been for the 2005 debacle, the US GP would have definitely stayed at the Brickyard.
I don't know for staying at Indianapolis, but for sure the U.S Grand Prix could've stayed on the 2008 schedule at a different track. The Indianapolis road layout today doesn't use any of the oval corners anymore it uses the front stretch, a hairpin turn in place of oval turn 1, and the infield road course.
@@zanemarte9877 - And it only gets used twice a year I understand. If ever Moto GP races there and for the Indy GP in the run up to the Indy 500. The only IndyCar race that uses a standing start rather than the rolling starts far more common in American racing.
Glad we're not here anymore. Cota clears indy easily as an F1 circuit
Last race in indianapolis.
If it wasn't for the FIA's greediness back in 2005 the U.S. Grand Prix wouldn't have been cut from the F1 schedule from 2008 until 2012 when COTA was built.
It's frustrating see the end of this season for McLaren especially for Ron Denis
Painful.
They deserved to lose the drivers title, karma!
I’m from Indy & I went to the first two F1 races here
Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel’s one and only time racing in Indianapolis. After 2007, F1 did not return to America till 2012 for Texas.
With Lewis winning first time at both locations wonder who’s the last driver to win both times on their first time in the USA at 2 separate circuit
Fun fact Lewis record in North America from 2007-12 was either win or DNF lol and the order forms a palindrome too with
Win
Win
DNF
Win
DNF
Win
Win
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 Yes indeed.
Great performance drive by Hamilton and Alonso.
Thanks for the highlights footage from ITV.
I think I might have already said this before, however thanks BIg Z, I was in NZ when these were live on TV, at 3am usually, nearly always fell asleep, and they didn't repeat them, kiwi's not interested enough I suppose, so although I think I saw them all, I didn't really, so glad you are putting these up, much appreciated.
Note how James Allen pronounced Vettel's name correctly when running through the grid order, then Brundle poisoned him into getting it wrong. I think it was mid-2011 before British commentary was correctly pronouncing his name again!
I usually skip over the beginning of videos, not these.
Jarno Trulli allways went well at Indianapolis one of his Favourite Tracks.
6th was the best he could do great result.
IF it wasn't for the FIA's greediness back in 2005 Trulli could've gotten a podium or even better a race win for Toyota then and there.
bless you my child
🙏
Hamilton leads his seventh consecutive race.
Both top teams really should have played team orders had they known how it would later pan out ;-)
Rookies these days take years to mature even if on a competitive car and against a bad teammate. From the best rookie season to greatest of all time; Most poles, wins, best in the rain, and best in living rent free on idiot´s heads. Gotta love it.
Hamilton’s performance at Fuji that year in horrendous wet conditions was sensational! He also set the fastest lap of the race and was leaving Alonso behind who was also good in the wet.
Alonso was quite good in the wet but Hamilton was better.
He didn’t make any mistakes which you expect from a Rookie in Horrendous wet conditions.
@@tristanwhite3472What make Lewis rookie mythical is that 4 of the races he entered that years, he had never been to them ever in his junior career.
He won two of them, that is greatness whether the Alonso fans wanna accept it out or not.
@@Don-Royall nothing to take from Lewis's debut but that car suit his driving style like a glow . alonso did prefered a more understeer car but all he got was an oversteer car ...at least he didnt spun off every 3 races like mr spunbastian
Kimi closing on Massa towards the end shame he couldn’t get past.
Love the highlights. Where can I watch older races on itv highlights. Vettels first race.
Strong drive by Alonso too he tried his very hardest to get past Hamilton and was showing strong pace.
Yeah Alonso was annoyed because of the team’s tactics he was on the shorter stint.
23:04 when the Mclarens were deep in backmarkers us interesting. James says he doesn't think the drivers lost any time. Alonso, definitely not. Wurz ceded track position from such a long way back in T1. Alonso went to the inside long before the braking point and Wurz backed right off to let him through. Hamilton definitely lost more time in the traffic together, and then Alonso followed through once a few drivers had made their point that they weren't all "monkeys at the back". And right on cue, Luizzi held him behind for an entire lap and almost cost him the lead of the race by giving Alonso a sniff on the next lap
Alonso was pushing very hard.
Jarno Trulli best result of the season in 6th.
Alonso showing us for the first time that he ain't a team player.
Ralf Schumacher didn't get on with this circuit it seems.
Did whoever created that opening montage watch Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe USA episode?
Great Battle between the two McLaren's. Alonso was on the War Path.
Two of Lewis's earliest fanbois Allen and Brundle the adulation is comical. Ron Dennis taking every opportunity to sabotage Alonso as usual.
How on earth was Alonso sabotaged here? he was outqualified and out-raced. Let's not forget until and including Monaco, Mclaren had been bringing Hamilton in early for fuel stops to ensure Alonso could beat him. If they'd carried on favouring one driver they'd have won the title well before Moseley told them to hand it to a Ferrari driver.
@@BonnetLicker86313 All very true totally agree.
@@BonnetLicker86313 yes Alonso wasn’t sabotaged.
@@BonnetLicker86313agree with all of this except the handing over to Ferrari. McLaren drivers bottled it. First Alonso with Fuji which Lewis won btw so no sign of a handover happening given that pit Lewis on course to win the title in China and Kimi having very little chance of coming back unless Lewis didn't score in one of the races. Then Lewis in china. Lewis doesn't put it in the gravel, Kimi is out of the title race before Brazil
@@BonnetLicker86313 agree with the title hand over to ferrari ! and kimi fanboyz are super proud of thus championship 😅
Jarno Trulli best finish of the season.
And keep a look out for a future world champion making his debut here
Kimi wins the next 2 races.
Fernando getting annoyed frustrated moving his car towards the Pit Lane Wall.
Swerving his car towards the pit lane wall.
Vet-ELLE 🙂
Can we have these cars back?
41:08 I wonder how this young driver will do in Formula One.
as he started...outbrakeing himself in the warmup lap ,spun off mid race ,team mate out ,crash under the saefty car ,crash on the cool down lap,and a couple of wins due to luck & flexi wings 😅
Fisichella couldn't get a point because of his spin he ended up in the Gravel. Fought back but finished 9th.
TY for another one!
Vettel was only 19 years old.
24:26 Senna-Mansell 1991 spain , anyone ?😮
Ferrari was very strong here in past years.
JAMES ALLEN 2:37 : "Can Hamilton live the American dream?"
INTRO MOVIE 0:36 : "And as we all know, the American dream is Uncle Sam, fried chicken, one condor, two statues of liberty, and shooting a squad of football players and a baseball with a gun. Oh, and knocking over another landmark tower but with a giant donut"
Jesus Harold Christ, now we know Indygate wasn't the only reason F1 left the states for a while.
The 2 McLaren's were faster than the 2 Ferrari's over the lap Ferrari was quicker down the Pit Straight.
why did fernando drove close to the pits?😂
Luizzi held up Hamilton which gave Alonso his chance.
40:23 Prime Fernando Bullshitttery right there. You can tell the cracks are showing a bit.
He knew what was going on in McLaren, trying to favour their golden boy. They lost the drivers title because they've put all their hopes on the rookie, who unsurprisingly bottled it at the worst moment
3:22 "4.19 mile" - how do you fit that inside a 2.5 mile oval? Oh, "a little over 2.6 miles." James Allen might use "If I'm not mistaken" to get his words in order.
Ferrari dominated this event in past years but not this time.
the attendance of US was very bad like only a third or half full on some areas
Alonso tried his Hardest to get past Hamilton he was pushing hard whilr Hamilton was in pits too.
Ferrari fell behind McLaren in development.
Hamilton moving late to block Alonso... Brundle - What's the beef?
Schumacher moving late to block Barrichello at Hungary - Michael should receive a penalty....
Their Hamilton bias was evident from day 1 🤣🤣 Exact same as the way they all grovel at Norris' feet now lmao
Where did hamilton move late to block alonso you numpty? He always moved first but i guess we cant expect you to understand simple racing can we... And the schumacher move had a wall there since you are forgetting or maliciously ignoring it. If you are gonna try to be clever or cheeky at least be right, stupid mtfckr. Go watch Ziggo or whatever the hell its called now to learn what biased actually means. Let me know if you need any more lessons.
That was nowhere near as bad as Schumacher and Barrichello.
That’s what I didn’t like about Micheal his dirty tactics his obsession with winning. He did unsporting things throughout his career.
Dirty driving cheating.
First race for Vettel but BMW got no place for him.
Schumacher winning 06, 05, 04, 03, 01.
00 Too ;) 02 was close xD
@@jonihamalainen2228 Yes about both.
Hakkinen won the 2001 US Grand Prix, his last GP victory.
Shame Kimi didn't manage to get 3rd place from Massa.
Shame for Nick Heidfeld.
Not a good day for BMW.
Poor error by Fisi.
I know Raikinen wind this season, so the wheels must have fallen off McLaren Big time. That's right is also the spy season too isn't it?
Raikkonen just elevated his game and found a better setup with the car.
In the final stint of this race, Kimi was faster than anyone. He was flying.
What a awful car the RA-017 Honda car was getting overtaken by last years Honda Car.
Terrible aerodynamics in the Honda.
The Honda RA107 a dreadful car everything about was wrong terrible design. They went in a different direction with the design but it was completely the wrong direction.
And keep a look out for a future world champion making his debut here