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The delta-V required to get from Earth's surface to the surface of Mars is only slightly more than from Earth's surface to the surface of Earth's Moon. The moon only serves as a proving ground for Mars tech, and eventually provide in situ material and fuel.
It’s not so good to use up full to land, to and need use lot full accelerate from the moon gravity well, so cases where bring something from earth, to transferee it to the moon, and then to mars, gives you this: accelerate (from earth), deaccelerate (to moon), accelerate (from moon), deaccelerate (to mars). etch time you accelerate or deaccelerate, you burn rocket fuel, while between you do not change velocity so do not burn rocket fuel. So, cargo depot (staging point) does not make sense, unless your producing something on the moon to send to mars. In that case it might be just easier to make stuff on mars, once you know how to fabricate things from rocks.
Yes indeed. And you can be certain the video and image quality will be fantastic; beyond anything we've ever seen before. Just think of being able to watch live, with a fairly short delay, things happening on the moon up close.
Well the main reason anyone even went to outer space in the first place,much less the moon, was the cold war. Since neither side wanted to put their military against each other they used their scientists. Well get people to Ceres if we go into a cold war again. Wernher von Braun actually over developed the Saturn V to put people on mars. It was the most powerful ever rocket built and that was 50 years ago.
If Apollo lander was designed that way they could attached it together on moon to make moon base having so much room for future moon laboratory equipment.
I love your work, man. An arms race to exploit the water on the moon is just what humanity needs. We are a fiercely competitive species, and I like to think that the stars are our birthright.
Alan Shepard who was the first American into space also was one of the Americans to walk on the Moon. His last trip into space was a trip to the Moon. Shepard got his wish, too bad John Glenn quit the space program because he would have definitely had a place on one of the Lunar Missions.
With all we do now in space, it seems to cross the divides between each other here on Earth. If we can maintain that co-existance in space, I believe (hope) that it will improve things on Earth. Whether it be the Moon, Mars, or any other joint venture (Trek) into space, I think it puts a perspective on however big the egos are on Earth, we can all be humbled when we see how miniscule we actually are. We need to get together on this before the Aliens come to harvest us 😱 I would suggest dropping the name "Space Force" too.
The moon is essential, for 3d printing and learning to settle a base, I believe you find it where expensive bring things to the moon, but returning things from moon, to earth is not as expensive.
@@allebas8705 I meant a dead human. Could be literally or not quite literally. But not figuratively, or like when the Earth's shadow produces a red light reflected off the Moon.
didn't mention that there's lots of SILICON on the moon, something we need for computers that is constantly in demand on Earth. It seems smarter to put bases at one of the rotational poles, since then solar collection can happen even when the face of the moon is in darkness. We could also anchor a tether to the pole, and extend it to the L1 Lagrange point, with existing materials, to make landing on the moon and taking off again merely electric processes, without need of rockets or rocket fuel
@@shamsudeenma1928 You win. 🙄 P.S l just watched India beat Australia in test cricket. The lndian's played like no other team l have ever seen before. Wow!
For me, view at the Earth is reason enough. Make hotels, lower the price of the trip a bit and let's go! Include in the price a Moon walk and a buggy ride!
Thank you for great video. I have a few thoughts on Luna exploration. Firstly, humans on the moon require a habitat that mimics gravity. Perhaps a rotating habitation, this would reduce but not stop the detrimental effect zero G has on the human organism. If the habitation could be underground in perhaps a lava tunnel, it would also provide protection from high velocity falling projectiles and more importantly the intense solar radiation. I would like to see humanUNkind work as a collective to achieve this but it is a fracturous species that appears to not like or trust it's own kind, hence the apparent need for numerous but pointless armies, navies and air forces to protect each group of your species from its self when in reality you are all one species technologically trapped in a self polluted biosphere akin to a Petri dish. I foresee that Luna will become a mining facility and not the opportunity to combine as a species to create a Luna science colony. The mining of the abundant untapped resources could very well create more disharmony of an already fractured species. Кэв
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Nice take on the space missions touching most of the important issues. IMHO The moon is a much harsher environment than mars and so any settlement there will be easily adapted to mars. Perhaps Mars missions might be phased one or two years behind moon missions to maximise the chances of success.
@@insanecuriosity2682 much more extreme temperatures, much more radiation, and less gravity will make life more difficult on the moon than on mars. Even the smallest meteors are a threat on the moon. .
Bone deterioration is the greatest limiting factor to establishing a permanent human presence in any low gravity environment. Until that issue is fixed, there will have to be a mandatory rotation of personnel back to Earth.
I **can't wait** to see a lunar base up and running! **Perfect** testing-ground for new technologies which can then be perfected and used in Mars missions too! I wish Elon Musk would put more emphasis on the **Moon** instead of Mars! If someone gets sick (or homesick) on the Moon, it's easier to bring them back to Earth from there rather than from **Mars!** Same thing if something important breaks. Hopefully you'd have the tools to fix it but if not, supplies from Earth can be there in a short time. Not so with Mars.
I like your work, man. Of course, the Moon should be the objective for near-future exploitation. Any other idea is pure pie in the sky idiocy. Men on the moon, building stuff, while robot probes go out looking for more platinum asteroids. Win/win.
I'm imagining a lonely Lunar outpost on the dark side of the moon, manned only by 2 characters named... beavis and butthead: "Hey Beavis, go take the hovervan out to the high gain antenna and fix the actuator motor... you dillweed" "Yeah! Yeah that rocks!" So Beavis pilots one of the utility maintinence vehicles from the base out to a remote site near a high lunar cliff face and repairs a high gain antenna actuator motor there and finds some green flecks among the powdery lunar dust. "Oh yeah! I found some cool weed out here! I'll bring it back to base!" Butthead: "That's stupid! How is there weed growing on the moon with no air you dillweed?!"
@@williambuckman8359 True ! But how long on a cosmic scale if it can hold atmosphere for more than a century and we find a way to somehow replenish it than maybe it would do some good, also magnetosphere is a big problem but if we could somehow make ozone layer maybe it would help in containing the radiation . Whatever happens it will be interesting to see what is human impact on the Moon when humans go there
@@stipe3124 I’ve always heard the most likely settlements will be in craters with domes built over it. The moon also has water deposits and lithium which could be mined for fuel among other exotic materials it is exciting what our technology could do and the impact it will have hopefully its in our lifetime! Go spacex lol!
The Moon beckons. A long-term base there gives us relative vacuum testing, preparation for long-term flight(Mars?), and leads the way to full development on the Moon. Eventually, we'll discover huge iron and other metal deposits(hidden meteorites), helium-3, water for living and fuel, and finally, a telescope on the Far side that will be free of Earthlight and radiation...
1st., we need a floating station around the moon, capable to hold at least 590 astrnouts and scientists...., so, yeah im thinking in something a little bigger than the actual iss... . Somewhere where you could process ithems you bring from the moon ?...
We need both... We need a place to return to.. We're talking a hostile environment times 1,000 getting there being able to stay and sustain....mental stability physiology has to be ready...to know when someone is going to crack cause that can endanger everyone... Than a security team to remove that person quick to somewhere safe.... It's alot has to come to play....
@@Mikhail__ At least a base will be on the moon... Besides we had almost 6 decades to do this, and didn't. It most likely will be China or a corporation who will make the base on the moon first.
A lunar base first would serve as a laboratory/proving ground for experiments, concepts and hardware that are destined to go past the moon... sort of "last chance" gas station, 7-11, and Darpa...
I don't think there will be a problem sharing, space is vast. There's enough habitable planets in the universe for every human to have their very own earth like planet.
The Planetary Society has a automatic filled out petition to increase NASA'S budget that gets sent to your DC representatives. Could you mention it on your channel and have a link? NASA needs a bigger budget.
I think rich folks would spend billions to have a presence on the moon and as always this typically paves the way for the rest of us eventually. I don't think that Mars would be as popular and I think this aspect has great appeal but also tremendous self propagating marketing and promotion of all things space. I think this would naturally lead to further explorations like Mars et al.
Oh I'm sure that reckless billionaires might want to do a bit of space tourism. But why would someone with that wealth want to permanently give up the creature comforts of Earth, like, you know, being able to breathe. And other little details like that.
So some things to chime in... FIrst of all, I feel like we should give a tip of the hate and applause for NASA's Chair, Jim Bridenstine for his efforts in the last 4 years. Despite him being attached to ... um...let's say a "divisive" president... I think he knocked the projects and funding proposals and all his PR, out of the park. Also I absolutely would love a moon base..it sounds silly yes.. but logically it would be perfect to get things started for Mars. And think of all the R&D and developments that will come from setting this up... We've learned so much since 1969... Also about a bigger and better Aricibo Telescope would be such a payoff! And thinking about it, moving so much mining and resource gathering to the moon would offshore so much of the pollution made here on earth... Granted it would be such a herculean task to get it set up...it may be such a huge buy in at cost...it won't be financially beneficial for decades upon decades...
We should be greatfull we have such a big moon allowing us to develop and mature technology needed to sustain life outside earth before we set off to Mars and the rest of solar system. It would be reckless to go for Mars without using Moon as prooving ground first
Thats what I was saying on another RUclips video, that if NASA hadn't stopped going to the moon, the obvious thing to do, would be to build a base on the moon, with less gravity, you wouldn't need to probably build big rocket engines. But NASA apparently doesn't have the technology no more, which doesn't make sense.
In addition to all of the systems designs and products that we humans need to go and to stay on the moon , there's the prospect we will be trashing the moon with all of our waste.
President Trump often spoke about establishing a lunar base from which to launch manned missions to Mars. Personally, I don't see the practicality of it. Why launch a manned mission to Mars from the moon while you can launch them directly from Earth?
To answer the question at the end, no, I don't think we should take the political and legal examples from the earth to the moon, or elsewhere. Set up basic rules, then if someone doesn't follow them or tries to take advantages of them, send them back to earth. No restrictions on resources there either, because as soon as you do that you just reintroduced politics as someone will claim authority over them and try to profit/control them. Let it be scientists and those wanting to put in their own efforts profit from them as those types of disruptive innovators are the ones that have moved society and science/technology forward.
Oh man, it implies a lot more than just being able to manufacture products. Look at the thermodynamics of it all. As I have postulated: "Economics is merely the name given to the thermodynamics of extremely complex dissipative structures by extremely complex dissipative structures." A principle I made up, all by myself, by standing on the shoulders of giants. Ya can't just shave of the top of the complexity pyramid and transplant it elsewhere, willy-nilly, it takes megatonnage of biomass to pull that off.
We can't build a moon colony because our chemical propulsion systems are obsolete!! It's like driving from city to city in a golf cart that runs on liquid gold, we need an SUV!! We need to invent a propulsion system that runs on particles like fission, antimatter, supercharged ion engines or something that doesn't exist yet
A base on the moon is one thing, but a colony is something else! A colony implies a self sustaining , more or less, and self reproducing, food, resources as well as population. Has one considered the ethics of gestating a human on one sixth the gravity of earth, if that is even possible, then birthing and raising a child in the one sixth the gravity of earth environment, if that is even possible? How about giving that some thought?
Not just "suspicious ideological differences"? There were and are people who want to rule over everyone, and if you don't want to be a slave, you must make sure that they don't have the advantage to enslave you.
Something that's NEVER brought up is what if something catastrophic happens in our first attempt? How much time and money will set us back? We don't want to think this way but there is a very good possibility. I would not want to be the first to go anywhere. ✌
We have way too many things to do on Earth to be wasting time and money on stuff like this...borrowing money we don't have and cannot pay back that is.
That's what I've said also a buckeye.lunar is for Satan, solar is for God.i will wait for Jesus he is coming here not there.Bible is true look at Revelation and what happened in 2020 alot has been revealed crazy.look into that vaccine I'm not taking it good luck buckeye💪😇🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@richardrogers156 - God is not stupid. He won't let homo sapiens succeed until they fix the planet they live on. It is questionable if we ever landed on the moon at all. Six manned missions in the 60's and 70's, and now we have phones more powerful than anything from back then, and we haven't landed nothing but rovers? It makes sense. In the sixties it would have been easy to fake, but if they try to fake it today, the entire planet will be watching the moon.
@@richardrogers156 - The bible is so old, the war "in heaven", writen about in revelation, was on mars and venus. Meaning martians now live on earth. Why so many people could give a sh*t about earth, and are so interested in "colonizing" mars. They have read the rest of revelation, and they understand they will lose if they stay on earth. i watched a video, that calculated a small colony on mars would take 1000 resupply missions every two years to keep them alive. Imagine that! 25,000 people die a day of starvation on earth, and "humans" won't do nothing, but sending a thousand space ships to mars, to keep 100 people alive, is fine and dandy! God is not stupid! spacex and nasa will learn the hard way! Ka-boom! Like that last spacex rocket. God won't let noone reach the moon until they feed the planet.
Why we don't need to provide food, farms, and deep water wells to the 50,000 people who otherwise die of starvation and waterborne illness each and every day: We ... are the Borg!
If…IF countries could stop their military industrial lust, the wasted money could be redirected to space exploration instead, and the stockholders wouldn’t be beholden to the erratic and sporadic wars that are merely test beds for destructive technologies, and things would be great.
The Moon v Mars debate is pointless. Both goals always implied the other. Until we start understanding domestic and international politics in the context of the debates we have about space, we as a community are unprepared to push forward. Bush and Obama saved Spacex, in that context Obama's shift to Mars was a statement in support if Spacex as NASA was failing in the return to manned space. But of course a Moon Base make sense, it always has.
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If we build a lunar base it will make traveling to Mars easier. Great video !
Only if nuclear fusion technology was developed effectively
Not just Mars, anywhere in solar system. For a rocket to be launched into space, most of its fuel is consumed in leaving earth's gravity.
Agreed. I believe the moon will become the space station we need to get going to Mars and beyond.
I was thinking the same thing.
The delta-V required to get from Earth's surface to the surface of Mars is only slightly more than from Earth's surface to the surface of Earth's Moon. The moon only serves as a proving ground for Mars tech, and eventually provide in situ material and fuel.
A lunar staging point is essential to improve potential success of a Mars mission
It’s not so good to use up full to land, to and need use lot full accelerate from the moon gravity well, so cases where bring something from earth, to transferee it to the moon, and then to mars, gives you this:
accelerate (from earth), deaccelerate (to moon), accelerate (from moon), deaccelerate (to mars).
etch time you accelerate or deaccelerate, you burn rocket fuel, while between you do not change velocity so do not burn rocket fuel. So, cargo depot (staging point) does not make sense, unless your producing something on the moon to send to mars. In that case it might be just easier to make stuff on mars, once you know how to fabricate things from rocks.
@@kjetilhvalstrand1009 but it may be non efficient but the rocket would refuel at the moon. That’s critical
Seeing humans walk on the Moon again would inspire people and help NASA increase their budget for a Mars mission.
Yes indeed. And you can be certain the video and image quality will be fantastic; beyond anything we've ever seen before. Just think of being able to watch live, with a fairly short delay, things happening on the moon up close.
yeap, specially if they are chinese
NASA has a bigger budget than SpaceX yet SpaceX is going to Mars before NASA
@@trappist1-e301 NASA does many many more things than just Mars exploration, so your comparison isn’t valid, although your point is good.
Well the main reason anyone even went to outer space in the first place,much less the moon, was the cold war. Since neither side wanted to put their military against each other they used their scientists. Well get people to Ceres if we go into a cold war again. Wernher von Braun actually over developed the Saturn V to put people on mars. It was the most powerful ever rocket built and that was 50 years ago.
If Apollo lander was designed that way they could attached it together on moon to make moon base having so much room for future moon laboratory equipment.
I love your work, man. An arms race to exploit the water on the moon is just what humanity needs. We are a fiercely competitive species, and I like to think that the stars are our birthright.
Some form of autonomous machinery will play a key roll in all of this.
Alan Shepard who was the first American into space also was one of the Americans to walk on the Moon. His last trip into space was a trip to the Moon. Shepard got his wish, too bad John Glenn quit the space program because he would have definitely had a place on one of the Lunar Missions.
*We need to build lunar base because of China.*
The title's wrong: We do not need to build, we can build.
But will we? Thank God for Elon Musk. He has awakened our space program from a long sleep. I'm very tired of bus route to no where orbital stuff.
With all we do now in space, it seems to cross the divides between each other here on Earth. If we can maintain that co-existance in space, I believe (hope) that it will improve things on Earth. Whether it be the Moon, Mars, or any other joint venture (Trek) into space, I think it puts a perspective on however big the egos are on Earth, we can all be humbled when we see how miniscule we actually are. We need to get together on this before the Aliens come to harvest us 😱 I would suggest dropping the name "Space Force" too.
Interesting point of view! We hope that our stellar parliament will bring Earth´s peace too!
We are the harvesters.
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@@insanecuriosity2682 why do you want to pretend to be them
9:48 I love the shot of SG: Atlantis on the moon
The moon is essential, for 3d printing and learning to settle a base, I believe you find it where expensive bring things to the moon, but returning things from moon, to earth is not as expensive.
Yeah the costs would definitely change! Thanks for sharing your thoughts! Glad to have Curious people around!
great song for our beloved satellite: 🚀 🚀 TO THE MOON by Gain Altitude
I hope territory issues don't become a military decision because when that happens, IMHO there will be blood on the Moon.
maybe there won't be. maybe all they need is to poke holes in the suits or disrupt the O2. people will die, but no blood will literally spill.
@@allebas8705 I meant a dead human. Could be literally or not quite literally. But not figuratively, or like when the Earth's shadow produces a red light reflected off the Moon.
didn't mention that there's lots of SILICON on the moon, something we need for computers that is constantly in demand on Earth. It seems smarter to put bases at one of the rotational poles, since then solar collection can happen even when the face of the moon is in darkness. We could also anchor a tether to the pole, and extend it to the L1 Lagrange point, with existing materials, to make landing on the moon and taking off again merely electric processes, without need of rockets or rocket fuel
What, "Practice on the moon"? It's not a golf range! Then again, there was Alan Shepard! (Feb, 6th, 1971)🚩
Hole in one
@@shamsudeenma1928 You know, l've played golf for decades, but never ever have l got a hole in one. Oh well, such is life! 🏴🚩🏳🏁
@@MG-er6dm I have never played golf btw. I said that just for fun.
@@shamsudeenma1928 You win. 🙄
P.S l just watched India beat Australia in test cricket. The lndian's played like no other team l have ever seen before. Wow!
Two things: We need the experience that the Moon will bring us, we need nuclear thermal engines to go to Mars.
For me, view at the Earth is reason enough. Make hotels, lower the price of the trip a bit and let's go! Include in the price a Moon walk and a buggy ride!
Sounds like a plan Mario!
Good video! Forget Mars, first the moon.
We have plenty of options indeed! Thanks for the nice comment! Hope to see you soon again!
Thank you for great video.
I have a few thoughts on Luna exploration. Firstly, humans on the moon require a habitat that mimics gravity. Perhaps a rotating habitation, this would reduce but not stop the detrimental effect zero G has on the human organism.
If the habitation could be underground in perhaps a lava tunnel, it would also provide protection from high velocity falling projectiles and more importantly the intense solar radiation.
I would like to see humanUNkind work as a collective to achieve this but it is a fracturous species that appears to not like or trust it's own kind, hence the apparent need for numerous but pointless armies, navies and air forces to protect each group of your species from its self when in reality you are all one species technologically trapped in a self polluted biosphere akin to a Petri dish.
I foresee that Luna will become a mining facility and not the opportunity to combine as a species to create a Luna science colony. The mining of the abundant untapped resources could very well create more disharmony of an already fractured species.
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I agree... We need practice.
Nice take on the space missions touching most of the important issues. IMHO The moon is a much harsher environment than mars and so any settlement there will be easily adapted to mars. Perhaps Mars missions might be phased one or two years behind moon missions to maximise the chances of success.
Why do you think is easier in Mars?
@@insanecuriosity2682 much more extreme temperatures, much more radiation, and less gravity will make life more difficult on the moon than on mars. Even the smallest meteors are a threat on the moon. .
moons slow rotation + 'minimal to zero' vibration = great observation ... nice! insane
If you could build a spaceship on the moon to land on Mars , how would that effect the design an shape for Mars atmospheric entry an landing?
Well, you got my Sub!
Awesome! welcome to the community Carlos! You won´t be disappointed!
You can use mass drivers to launch from the moon, at least for cargo that can handle high-gs!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_driver
Bone deterioration is the greatest limiting factor to establishing a permanent human presence in any low gravity environment. Until that issue is fixed, there will have to be a mandatory rotation of personnel back to Earth.
Ya like we really need that
It would be very useful we think..
I **can't wait** to see a lunar base up and running! **Perfect** testing-ground for new technologies which can then be perfected and used in Mars missions too! I wish Elon Musk would put more emphasis on the **Moon** instead of Mars! If someone gets sick (or homesick) on the Moon, it's easier to bring them back to Earth from there rather than from **Mars!** Same thing if something important breaks. Hopefully you'd have the tools to fix it but if not, supplies from Earth can be there in a short time. Not so with Mars.
I like your work, man. Of course, the Moon should be the objective for near-future exploitation. Any other idea is pure pie in the sky idiocy. Men on the moon, building stuff, while robot probes go out looking for more platinum asteroids. Win/win.
I'm imagining a lonely Lunar outpost on the dark side of the moon, manned only by 2 characters named... beavis and butthead:
"Hey Beavis, go take the hovervan out to the high gain antenna and fix the actuator motor... you dillweed"
"Yeah! Yeah that rocks!"
So Beavis pilots one of the utility maintinence vehicles from the base out to a remote site near a high lunar cliff face and repairs a high gain antenna actuator motor there and finds some green flecks among the powdery lunar dust. "Oh yeah! I found some cool weed out here! I'll bring it back to base!"
Butthead: "That's stupid! How is there weed growing on the moon with no air you dillweed?!"
a base + a city would be cool
i would like to have a city on the moon to be honest
We gte the feeling...
Moon has gravity and has small atmosphere so i wonder if human activity would change that exosphere and maybe make it more dense
It won’t hold on to it for long it’s to small and no magnetosphere!
@@williambuckman8359 True ! But how long on a cosmic scale if it can hold atmosphere for more than a century and we find a way to somehow replenish it than maybe it would do some good, also magnetosphere is a big problem but if we could somehow make ozone layer maybe it would help in containing the radiation .
Whatever happens it will be interesting to see what is human impact on the Moon when humans go there
@@stipe3124 I’ve always heard the most likely settlements will be in craters with domes built over it. The moon also has water deposits and lithium which could be mined for fuel among other exotic materials it is exciting what our technology could do and the impact it will have hopefully its in our lifetime! Go spacex lol!
@@williambuckman8359 Probably it will happen, Moon is closer than Mars and there will be comercial reason to go there .
PLEASE MAKE A VIDEO ON USING 3D PRINTING TO BUILD THE MOON BASE. If you haven’t already 😅.
Oh wow! Sounds interesting, will look it up! Thanks for the suggestion & for watching!
@@insanecuriosity2682 anytime :)
The Moon beckons. A long-term base there gives us relative vacuum testing, preparation for long-term flight(Mars?), and leads the way to full development on the Moon. Eventually, we'll discover huge iron and other metal deposits(hidden meteorites), helium-3, water for living and fuel, and finally, a telescope on the Far side that will be free of Earthlight and radiation...
1st., we need a floating station around the moon, capable to hold at least 590 astrnouts and scientists...., so, yeah im thinking in something a little bigger than the actual iss... . Somewhere where you could process ithems you bring from the moon ?...
Excellent sublimation of the situation.
I think we have to build a base in the moon first, eventually we can progress from there to Mars.
Yeah it does have its benefits, specially the distance!
If we can manufacture rockets and fuel on the moon ... It would be a easy way to launch large structures ...
Good!
Glad you enjoyed Andrew! First time watching?
Just a little FYI, Arecibo doesn't exist anymore, collapsed.
Excellent
Glad you enjoyed John! First time watching?
No - but i just like all things about Spacer:-)
We need both... We need a place to return to.. We're talking a hostile environment times 1,000 getting there being able to stay and sustain....mental stability physiology has to be ready...to know when someone is going to crack cause that can endanger everyone... Than a security team to remove that person quick to somewhere safe.... It's alot has to come to play....
by 2027-2028 in moon im 100% there will be base and ppl will live on it ! mark my word
Of course it will. Chinese.
That is what people taught in 1970s but here we are 50 years later with no base.
@@Mikhail__
At least a base will be on the moon...
Besides we had almost 6 decades to do this, and didn't. It most likely will be China or a corporation who will make the base on the moon first.
@@kosovoisserbia8937 yup exactly and now they're planning on building bases on Mars
A lunar base first would serve as a laboratory/proving ground for experiments, concepts and hardware that are destined to go past the moon... sort of "last chance" gas station, 7-11, and Darpa...
will you need a prime membership to go?
Haha very good question!
I wonder how they would tackle the fine powder dust. Same with Mars.
I don't think there will be a problem sharing, space is vast. There's enough habitable planets in the universe for every human to have their very own earth like planet.
The Planetary Society has a automatic filled out petition to increase NASA'S budget that gets sent to your DC representatives. Could you mention it on your channel and have a link? NASA needs a bigger budget.
Sounds like a good idea! Thanks for sharing will look into it!
Stargate Atlantis is on the moon!! 😅
I think rich folks would spend billions to have a presence on the moon and as always this typically paves the way for the rest of us eventually. I don't think that Mars would be as popular and I think this aspect has great appeal but also tremendous self propagating marketing and promotion of all things space. I think this would naturally lead to further explorations like Mars et al.
Oh I'm sure that reckless billionaires might want to do a bit of space tourism. But why would someone with that wealth want to permanently give up the creature comforts of Earth, like, you know, being able to breathe. And other little details like that.
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@@insanecuriosity2682 sus
i think starting on the moon would be best because its closer
Yes it is efinitely one of the biggest pros! Thanks for watching John! See you soon in another video!
So some things to chime in... FIrst of all, I feel like we should give a tip of the hate and applause for NASA's Chair, Jim Bridenstine for his efforts in the last 4 years. Despite him being attached to ... um...let's say a "divisive" president... I think he knocked the projects and funding proposals and all his PR, out of the park. Also I absolutely would love a moon base..it sounds silly yes.. but logically it would be perfect to get things started for Mars. And think of all the R&D and developments that will come from setting this up... We've learned so much since 1969...
Also about a bigger and better Aricibo Telescope would be such a payoff! And thinking about it, moving so much mining and resource gathering to the moon would offshore so much of the pollution made here on earth... Granted it would be such a herculean task to get it set up...it may be such a huge buy in at cost...it won't be financially beneficial for decades upon decades...
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imagine a future where retirement would mean coming back to Earth from space colonies :D
I can just imagine...for now! Thanks for watching!
If you can do it on the moon, you can do it on mars
Sounds about right! Would think the same!
Thanks for watching David!
Be funny if the Chinese set up their moon base and demand passports from all nations other than North Korea. 🚀😉
Every country on earth will mobilize to remove them!!
I have a feeling they could get up to that!
You should ask the corporate parts of the US military if you could use their bases
Module nuclear fission reactor can power colonies for Moon and Mars even beyond
We should be greatfull we have such a big moon allowing us to develop and mature technology needed to sustain life outside earth before we set off to Mars and the rest of solar system.
It would be reckless to go for Mars without using Moon as prooving ground first
Thats what I was saying on another RUclips video, that if NASA hadn't stopped going to the moon, the obvious thing to do, would be to build a base on the moon, with less gravity, you wouldn't need to probably build big rocket engines.
But NASA apparently doesn't have the technology no more, which doesn't make sense.
A moon base on the moon will be the first step experience for a mars human mission.
In addition to all of the systems designs and products that we humans need to go and to stay on the moon , there's the prospect we will be trashing the moon with all of our waste.
SHouldn't we first see if we can colonize Antarctica?
We better get to it, the other countries will lay claim to all the good stuff and are not so generous as we are.
Sooo.... Why its not started already?
President Trump often spoke about establishing a lunar base from which to launch manned missions to Mars. Personally, I don't see the practicality of it. Why launch a manned mission to Mars from the moon while you can launch them directly from Earth?
I'd say that one reason we need to go back to the moon is because so many people believe that we haven't been there before.
Those people won’t be convinced by another Moon landing.
@@JohnHazenhousen Some people are serial deniers. But throw enough mud against a wall.
Good point there...
We need to accumulate construction materials and stage construction outside af the atmosphere.
The Voyager Space Station, if funded, will help a lot to get that process started.
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Isn't there a lunar station already????
To answer the question at the end, no, I don't think we should take the political and legal examples from the earth to the moon, or elsewhere. Set up basic rules, then if someone doesn't follow them or tries to take advantages of them, send them back to earth.
No restrictions on resources there either, because as soon as you do that you just reintroduced politics as someone will claim authority over them and try to profit/control them. Let it be scientists and those wanting to put in their own efforts profit from them as those types of disruptive innovators are the ones that have moved society and science/technology forward.
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Oh man, it implies a lot more than just being able to manufacture products. Look at the thermodynamics of it all. As I have postulated: "Economics is merely the name given to the thermodynamics of extremely complex dissipative structures by extremely complex dissipative structures." A principle I made up, all by myself, by standing on the shoulders of giants. Ya can't just shave of the top of the complexity pyramid and transplant it elsewhere, willy-nilly, it takes megatonnage of biomass to pull that off.
This video is confusing. A lot of the time your talking about Mars instead of the Moon but it is unclear which one your talking about.
And let this plague of greedy vile people off this rock. Not likely!
I thought elon was supposed to go to mars in 2024
We can't build a moon colony because our chemical propulsion systems are obsolete!! It's like driving from city to city in a golf cart that runs on liquid gold, we need an SUV!! We need to invent a propulsion system that runs on particles like fission, antimatter, supercharged ion engines or something that doesn't exist yet
The moon spins so we can't because the bright side are explosions
but there are moon quakes it lasts hours and it is weaker than on earth. and its caused becuz of the moon crust shrinking when it cools down.
A base on the moon is one thing, but a colony is something else! A colony implies a self sustaining , more or less, and self reproducing, food, resources as well as population. Has one considered the ethics of gestating a human on one sixth the gravity of earth, if that is even possible, then birthing and raising a child in the one sixth the gravity of earth environment, if that is even possible? How about giving that some thought?
Not just "suspicious ideological differences"? There were and are people who want to rule over everyone, and if you don't want to be a slave, you must make sure that they don't have the advantage to enslave you.
In fact we should have a lunar base right now :- |
Something that's NEVER brought up is what if something catastrophic happens in our first attempt? How much time and money will set us back? We don't want to think this way but there is a very good possibility. I would not want to be the first to go anywhere. ✌
Completely valid point, the chances of that happening can definitely be high!
if only i was an astronaut
I like you need to fix homelessness in la at first.
So many things to be fixed...
We have way too many things to do on Earth to be wasting time and money on stuff like this...borrowing money we don't have and cannot pay back that is.
That's what I've said also a buckeye.lunar is for Satan, solar is for God.i will wait for Jesus he is coming here not there.Bible is true look at Revelation and what happened in 2020 alot has been revealed crazy.look into that vaccine I'm not taking it good luck buckeye💪😇🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@richardrogers156 - God is not stupid. He won't let homo sapiens succeed until they fix the planet they live on.
It is questionable if we ever landed on the moon at all. Six manned missions in the 60's and 70's, and now we have phones more powerful than anything from back then, and we haven't landed nothing but rovers?
It makes sense. In the sixties it would have been easy to fake, but if they try to fake it today, the entire planet will be watching the moon.
@@richardrogers156 - The bible is so old, the war "in heaven", writen about in revelation, was on mars and venus. Meaning martians now live on earth.
Why so many people could give a sh*t about earth, and are so interested in "colonizing" mars. They have read the rest of revelation, and they understand they will lose if they stay on earth.
i watched a video, that calculated a small colony on mars would take 1000 resupply missions every two years to keep them alive.
Imagine that! 25,000 people die a day of starvation on earth, and "humans" won't do nothing, but sending a thousand space ships to mars, to keep 100 people alive, is fine and dandy!
God is not stupid! spacex and nasa will learn the hard way! Ka-boom! Like that last spacex rocket. God won't let noone reach the moon until they feed the planet.
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Why we don't need to provide food, farms, and deep water wells to the 50,000 people who otherwise die of starvation and waterborne illness each and every day: We ... are the Borg!
If…IF countries could stop their military industrial lust, the wasted money could be redirected to space exploration instead, and the stockholders wouldn’t be beholden to the erratic and sporadic wars that are merely test beds for destructive technologies, and things would be great.
The Moon v Mars debate is pointless. Both goals always implied the other. Until we start understanding domestic and international politics in the context of the debates we have about space, we as a community are unprepared to push forward. Bush and Obama saved Spacex, in that context Obama's shift to Mars was a statement in support if Spacex as NASA was failing in the return to manned space.
But of course a Moon Base make sense, it always has.
Earth is only planet thats suitable for life..
This video sounds like it was written by a Non-English speaker, but narrated by an American. 😂
Lunar base how? Is it possible?
This topic is coming, stay tuned!
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We do our best to expand, like the universe does! Glad to have you around! Thanks for wathcing!
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No we don't way too close water of time but what else would you expect from a simple mind