Is Your RAM Slowing You Down? (Memory Ranks)
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Learn about memory ranks and how they can affect your system's performance.
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The bottleneck in my system is still the human operating it.
My mom and dad have the same bottle neck
My bottleneck used to be money. Now it's scalpers.
@@FatherManus surprisingly seen a heap of 30 series cards in stock, regularly, in Australia.
3060tis are nearly available in all brands
@@bluedogtransportwa probably because shipping out of Australia is stupid expensive and not worth it
@@FatherManus nope your bottleneck is still money.
I'm in the fortunate position where I can say with absolute certainty: No, my RAM isn't slowing me down, everything else is equally slow.
lucky you! you found balance in your life 🙂
@@RandomTheories Just like you can find balance with this segway to our sponsor....
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Had me in the first half!
Cpu -z will tell you how many ranks on the memory speed tab, incase you're wondering.
HWINFO is also good
Thanks 👍
On the SPD tab. On the memory tab you'll see if it's single or dual channel.
Not to be confuse with ranks and dimms.
Can confirm.
Also my 16gb kit crucial (2x8gb) is single rank
Ram in 2010: Ah who gives a crap about it. Just buy it.
Ram in 2021:
Ah yes, that sweet, sweet DDR2 800
@@PaulHojda right ! How many ? "ALL OF Them ". Imagine me how I felt building my first pc and that's coming from an old laptop with 3 gig ram 😂 my 16 gig kit 😁 now I run laptop 32 gig 🙄😁😁
it's been this way since DDR ram.
That guy is my favourite dude on LTT. He both seems like he doesn’t give a crap, but also cares a lot about giving you the information.
Riley is hot, but he's not Anthony, so he loses "Best LTT guy" by default. Maybe secondb-best.
Riley could have made a good 80's detective but he drank too much soy milk. 😬
jk. He's a good addition to the team.
linus = big-time narcissist
everyone else at LMG = geniuenly skilled people that aren't also incredibly annoying to listen to
He's like my second favourite Riley ever after Riley Ried
He's also hot
smh, why do people buy ram, just download it off the internet
Such an original joke 😂
Yeah Sure. I don't want to deal with ads.
Ingenius!
punching kids for ram is a better way
@@grey.mithrandir nah
me who bought single-rank ram literally yesterday:
F
Single is usually more stable/better for overclocking. I wouldn't worry about it. A couple years ago everyone was saying SR > DR.
im trying to understand why my patriot viper 2x8 kit runs way better at 3200 than my corsair lpx 2x16 at the same speed. the corsair kit is dual rank and the patriot viper kit is single rank samsung b-die and it absolutly shits all over the lpx kit for latency and read/write bandwidth again at the same freq. this seams literally opposite of what this video suggests. cpu this was tested with is a r5 3600 oc'd to 4.5ghz all core. also the samsung b-die can handle more voltage for daily (up to 1.5 vdram) which means i can push it waaayyyy farther than the lpx ram. can easily run 3600 cl14.
You could return it because dual rank ram does make a difference but it might be fine because what they didn't meantion is if you're planning on ram overclocking most likely you will be able to get better speed and timings than with a dual rank kit.
You could return it because dual rank ram does make a difference but it might be fine because what they didn't meantion is if you're planning on ram overclocking most likely you will be able to get better speed and timings than with a dual rank kit.
Teacher: Why didn't you turn in the assignment on time?
Me: It wasn't me, it was the RAM's Fault.
was that a TLB joke
More rank !
Your rank will decrease
That actually happened to me. Doing a CS assignment with 4 core and 4 threads and 8GB of RAM was not a good idea. Especially in 2018.
I only had one rank but now I downloaded the second rank from internet
Lmao I got an add with Riley in it and I thought I was watching the actual video
I just got the same pulseway add
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I just got the same pulseway add
I just got the same pulseway add
I just got the same pulseway add
Great video! I’d consider myself a tech savvy guy, been building systems for 2 decades, and have never heard of ranked ram. Today, this video was the example of the old saying “you learn something new every day.”
Instructions unclear, bought prebuilt
Was looking at a prebuilt at bestbuy yesterday. 1650, ryzen 3, 2 DIMM motherboard, 1 filled. 8gb ram.
$1200
RIP
@@MuhammedGemci rip
@@enriquepadilla2542 🧐 that's hella overpriced
Enrique Padilla hell no that’s a bad deal
Just got this video in my feeds when I was looking for it!! Thanks, Riley! It clears many things to me.
honestly props to not having any mistakes while talking and having the editors write text where appropriate, mistakes can make learning new or complicated stuff harder
This video helped to confuse RAM even more.
Some topics need a longer, more in-depth, video than what TQ can offer.
Are you saying they should create a channel called techlongie?
Tell me you wouldn’t watch every video on that channel! Gamers Nexus but with LTT style.
@@realgoose I question whether an LMG channel will ever have that much focus on accurate reporting vs splashy fun! wow! clickbait!
Huh, something I've actually never heard of before! Thanks for the explanation Riley!
Another excellent video, already knew this stuff but still found it very interesting and informative. Thanks!
I upgraded my ram to 16 from 8 on my 1660ti laptop. I wasnt expecting such a huge improvement. I had 10 to 25 more fps and most importantly stable fps on games i have been playing.
more than what?
@@tikyreol978 more than having 8 gigs.
short answer: no
long answer: no
then cut out the midd... -excuse me- medium man!
@@proCaylak did you like my edit?
@@giovannidropshipping can't say I do :(
@@proCaylak want me to put it how it was
@@giovannidropshipping I'd appreciate that. but at the end, it's your choice ^^
CPU-Z also shows the ranking of each stick under the SPD section if you don't feel like opening the case. I also have 4 sticks of identical SKU, but one has Hynix chips and the other has SpekTek, and yet one set is Single rank whereas the other is Dual.
Open CPU-Z and click on the SPD tab, on the right it shows the rank value of your ram.
It should be dual rank
Am I right?
I learned what RAM rank numbers are today.
Thanks! I was searching for this recently.
Thanks for the quickie Riley!
Another important point is that high-rank modules are usually harder to overclock than single rank ones.
Been using 64GB DDR3 RAM for almost 4 years now, never used even 10GB of that memory but it was a gift so don't call me a money waster
Gift waster ;)
That there is a lifetime supply of RAM (for the life of the motherboard anyway).
Upload it to the internet so someone can download your ram
@@lorenzo8755 😂😂😂
@@Hellspooned2 lmao 64GB DDR3
Hey so glad I found your video! Was wondering why this "number of ranks" parameter is almost never talked about in RAM upgrade how-to-videos & articles... Yet when I went online shopping for new RAM, I stumbled on this 1Rx8 vs 2Rx8 parameter, even for a same model of RAM sticks (HyperX FURY 3200 has the two types). Now, do you happen to know if it is ok to mix the two types (1Rx8 + 2Rx8)? My HP Omen 30L already has a HyperX FURY 3200 2Rx8, but last week I ordered a HyperX FURY 3200 1Rx8 to add beside it, will it work? Would have been better if it was a 2Rx8 I guess? Thanks in advance!
they will both perform as 1Rx8, 1Rx8 is going to slow down 2Rx8.
@@igronDC is it possible for old motherboard with 1rx8 RAM being replaced by 2rx8?
Love the video, lots of great information! One question, will mixing dual and single rank ram on a dual channel cpu create any issues?
I have 2 x 16g r1 and was thinking about getting 2 x 16g r2 and adding it to my dual channel system
Sweet spot for ryzen now seems to be 3600 cl16 with 4*8 single ranked. Also if you're going with just 2 sicks of 16g don't go with crucial as they are single ranked. However, those are ideal for 64g if you really need that much.
What about corsair vengeance LPX
It might be worth noting that buildzoid states that higher rank configurations can't clock as well as lower rank ones.
He does recommend prioritizing rank above frequency for AM4 due to the memory controller but all other configs the inverse.
But can a dual bank RAM solve Legendre differential equation... I mean, run crisis?
excelente pregunta
Finally. Hopefully stores near me also write about this on their items' description
good vid keep up the good work
On linux: sudo dmidecode --type 17 and look for rank
Imagine having to download CPU-Z to get relevant information about your system, lol
@@Lambda_Ovine imagine remembering commands
@@Lambda_Ovine Imagine making fun of people because of the OS they use
"Rank: unknown" lol
Thanks!
Very informative 👏
But make a video explaining the boost the ram gets from the RGB
very informative, thanks!
Here’s an idea for a teckquickie episode: the different ways of texting from your computer when you have an iPhone . Dell Mobile Connect, Blue Bubbles (my favorite, a life changer tbh), AirMessage, WeMessage?, Beeper, SMServer...
Thanks for this well done video
It is easy: You need enough CPU cores and power to access and process thee ram your using. Exampel‘s are Dual Core Quad for two 2GB RAM sticks and Quad Core for four RAM sticks up to 32 GB combined. For evrithing else you need more cores like Rizen. Or at least a 8core CPU from Intel. With Hyperthreading you will have more options and lower Latency on processing as an backup to the normal cores but it can as well leed to interferences depending on the system and Software.
Considering I have 2GB, I suppose YES. YES IT DOES.
Depends on memory controller and board. B350 with 2400G + Dual Rank Trident RGB 3600 = 2400Mhz RAM. Same RAM on B550 with 4750G = 3600Mhz, 1T command rate, CL17.... newer APU and board goes a long way.
For some reason looking at that sticker on the ram stick made me feel like I went and bought one and that I was admiring it like I usually do when I get new tech.
Wow, you learn something new everyday! Thanks guys!
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I seem to remember back in the day, you would want fewer ranks, because you could quickly run into problems with the maximum number of ranks supported.
Just as I'm in the market for a new pair (whole pc actually), thanks.
It's midnight here in India the perfect time to think what is slowing me down
12:30
It is probably being born in India
@@Prevarant 😂 I just wanted to know, what's wrong with being born in India? A lot of my friends here too complain about that xD
Muth
Hi from india...
I’d like to see test results from the additional latency effects from running 4 x dual rank modules.
and best settings
You end up trying to run 512 bits on a 265 bit bus...
"What speed you're on..."
Tbh I never know. I buy them from my localer dealer.
I wasn't the only one waiting for Riley to make a sound effect when he said PIA as an internet kill-switch am I?
Yes this is true because the cpu can access more banks but it will depends on how the game was coded.. if you own the new amd ryzen I strongly suggest that you should have a 4X8gb setup running at 3600mhz. This is the best setup and a lot of games will give more FPS than a generic or popular 2x8gb setup that most people buy..
What about 2x16 dual rank setup?
3:14 "Whatever you do on your pc" ....... I play command and conquer games from early 2000's on my pc Riley!!!!!
I understand the editorialized titles for the other channels, but for techquickie where people arguably come to the videos for a specific answer to a very specific question, I'm not really sold editorialized titles are the best solution for THIS particular channel. Even if they're you know, 'fine' for the other ones.
I was not ready for this level of technical information
Does anyone here know if running graphic design programs such as Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator as well as video editing software such as Adobe Premier Pro are better off with single rank RAM sticks or is dual rank RAM better? The computer I bought recently on Amazon is the Acer Aspire XC-895-UR11 which is a budget desktop that has the 10th generation Intel Core i3-10100 4 Core Processor. The motherboard on this computer allows only two sticks of RAM up to a maximum of 32GB's. I want to max it out with 2 sticks/16GB each but wanted to know if the RAM sticks I get should be single or dual rank for the type of programs I run.
Hello, I have a question for a possible video, Is it possible to put a Sim card/LTE on a desktop? I've seen some PCIe modules that advertise they can, but not sure if it would be possible of if these are just some random Chinese parts
Thank you
I have four RAM sticks and four slots. Will running at dual rank vs single rank matter for me? The XMP profile uses single rank by default so that's what I'm using now.
i love ur jokes man keep it up
TechQuickie idea: how do fast wireless chargers work, and why don't most phones support >10-15W charging?
I am struggling getting 3600MHz memory to run above 2600MHz... and it seems that the slower speed is its Stock Speed.
So glad I paid the extra!
Love the SDRAM in the preview.
Now if only someone could explain if it's worth it to change the interleaving size?
Do you need a bigger size with more sticks? more ranks?
Can you use the minimum of 256 bytes?
Can't find any info on this.
Finally, a Techquicke video that makes you want to buy a ford. Fs for Chevy and RAM.
so just curious can you mix said dual, quad ram with single rank ram sticks or do they have match
I would love to see the difference in some benchmarks!
The background song had a sound in it that made me look if my phone was ringing. Multiple times =)
Ah thank you. This information helps me a lot. I was a little confused because i have dual channel but single Rank. And i didn't understand what does single rank mean.
I have 4 sticks of 8gb ram 3200mhz, same brand, same code, etc but a while ago i figured out that 2 sticks had dual rank, and the others has single rank. Is that a problem?
Is that RAM box thing in the background (or something similar) available to buy anywhere?
You might be able to find it by looking up "powered ram display box" or something like that
i can't change the xmp profile of my prebuild pc (atc 780) what should i do?
I’m trying to figure out something I hav 2 sticks of around 16 gb ram and I’m new to computers so I don’t know much but I get about 300 gb of memory storage which is pretty low and only allows me to download maybe 1 or 2 games and i don’t know what to do about it and what is causing the low memory storage could I get some help?
Is it good to run 2 ram on dual channel and 1 on single? I have 3 ram sticks (2 8gb and 1 4gb) so I'm kinda confused whether I should get rid of the 4gb or not
Cool set
Does anyone have a link to the ltt forum post that lists all the ram sticks that Riley refers to? Much appreciated!
for me it is sad that my main rig using ram from 7700k era and never find an upgrade for years. it is a 16x2 gskill royale 4000mhz c16. i was able to push it all the way to around 4400 with cl19 when i used to use 8700k, now is 3600c14 with my 3900x. hope i can get a 5900x or 5950x soon
Well this would've been useful to know before building my new pc with a 5800x. At least I managed to oc my 3600MHz ram to 400Hz, so that's something
CPU Z shows all information including ram type, size and speed, etc. in windows 7 64 bit Sony Vaio svf15212snb.
However, the same information is not accessible or not shown at the CMD prompt, run as Administrator, using respective WMIC commands.
Only the ram size is shown, but no SPEED, no MANUFACTURER NAME, SERIAL NUMBERS etc. Why?
I reinstalled the windows freshly but still same issues.
Please help.
To be honest...this was almost scary! I've been having problems with my computer being slow and just plain out freezing on me because I believe there isn't enough ram to run 2 of anything anymore. So now I've been stuck trying to figuring out if I need more ram or just use what I have.
Depending on how old it is (or just faulty), it could also be a sign of the hard drive dying. The transfer of memory from RAM to HDD is very slow to begin with, but it slows down even farther when the HDD is worn down. If the S.M.A.R.T. status is anything but "healthy", you need to get it replaced ASAP.
@@whytho1690 My computer is 10yrs+. I bought it from Walmart and it isn't anything fancy but it worked for what I needed it to do. But ever since I updated the hard drive, because the first one died, and updated to Windows 10...it's having a hard time catching up. How would I know if the S.M.A.R.T. status is unhealthy? I have CrystalDiskInfo, I check it every so often, and right now it shows everything is good.
5900x build
for which one should i go?
G.Skill Trident Z Neo F4-3600C16Q-32GTZN(4x) or the F4-3600C14D-32GTZN(2x)?
Nice segway! Bravo!
Finally a bigger RUclipsr is covering memory ranks
So do need to just bite bullet and buy 32 gb STICK an same version of that stick latter when need?
Is memory rank (double and quad) widely supported by cpus+mem controllers?
Or, some cpus+mem controllers only accept single rank memory?
Did you guys do cl vs hrz? And what about 3 ram sticks vs 2/4 sticks in modern configs?
What about some benchmarks on the topic to see how much an impact it has?
Colors are sick in this episode. Good color grading
Well my DDR3 sticks (4x4gb) say they are Dual rank in CPU-Z, though im on a phenom II x6 (2500mhz NB), does it matter?
i have kingston hyperxfury 4gb ddr3 1866mhz and team elite 4gb ddr3 1600mhz, is that bad?
I JUST bought parts for a new build. So I'm watching this video, nervously, waiting to see how I did.
Whew. I went with 4x8Gb. Nailed it.
One question, I bought two ram sticks of the exact same brand, model, frequency, size… the only thing that is different is the rank, one is single, the other is double… is there any problem using both?
For 4 slots use is 4x dual rank RAM generally better than 4x signal rank RAM of the same overall capacity?
Currently, everyone should try to wait for DDR5 since people on DDR4 will soon lose their upgrade paths and DDR5 will probably help ryzen's ccx infinity fabric bus by a lot, making ryzen cpus with multiple ccxs a reality for gaming.
Im having trouble with my new ram on my 5600x i have a msi gaming pro carbon 570x and the ram is x4 cosrair vengeance 4000 xmp but i cant get it to load with xmp 4000 it just won’t post fastest i can get it 3600
What I do wanna now up until know is where can I download RAM.
Where do i find a spreadsheet for which ranks RAM is using?
should i use 3600Mhz 18Cas ram or 3000Mhz 15Cas ram on adobe after effect.
One of my ram sticks just died and it was a 48h pain to find the culprit, then I finally open RUclips on my freshly fixed PC to see this title as first recommendation...
These captions are fire
Thank you
I have bought from gskill a pack of 2 stick a while back, I bought a year later the same pack so I would use the 4 slots on my motherboard.
1 pack is single rank, the other is double rank yet the reference was the same, I only saw the rank in hwinfo.
I don't even know if it was the first pack or second that was double rank...
I have a 3600CL18-22-22-42 1.35V dual rank Hynix DJR A2 PCB 2x 16GB ram kit on a Ryzen 9 5900X and B550 Tomahawk that I’ve managed to tighten to 3600CL16-19-19-38 at 1.45V