For consumer fireworks, you've went above and beyond!!! Thanks for taking the time with your display setup demonstration!! This yes I've bought mortar racks, and cobra firing system , lots of different speed fuse . The way you glue the fireworks to the board is a game changer for me ! Incorporating different speed fuse on the board is spectacular. This will take me some time and configuration, but for the amount of money one spends on fireworks let's make the best out of the night!
Brandon, great videos! Thank you! I'm a first-timer for a fused show and have watched your set of videos 4 or 5 time now. I'm starting small but I'd also like to incorporate a few 500g ground fountains into my show (e.g. Amazing Joker, Evil Priest, Peacock) but they shower a LOT of ground sparks. Do you have any experience whether the level of protection you use is sufficient to protect against misfires from that level of exposure? I'll try to use prudent placement to minimize it of course.
Thank you, this was exactly what I needed. So you have never had an issue with the painters tape? Just want to make sure there is no chance that the tape would somehow prevent the next fuse from lighting.
Hi Josh, thanks for watching! I have never had a problem using the painters tape. This green painters tape is designed for use on concrete and masonry, so it is a little bit more aggressive than the standard blue painters tape. Firework fusing uses black powder internally and black powder has its own oxygen source within the chemical composition. So it is impossible to "smother" fusing using tape. You would basically have to dowse the fuse in water to stop it from burning. On a side note, I think I had 86 cakes and only 1 didn't light. The reason it didn't light is because the fuse coming out of the cake was about 1/4" long and I was running my quickest fuse to it (0.4 seconds per foot burn rate). There just wasn't enough surface area for the super quick fuse to light it. What I should have done is extended the cake fuse with a piece of safety fuse, then connected it to my super quick fuse. Ill be sure to do this next time to get a 100% launch rate. Again thanks for watching and good luck with your show!
@@brandonc7450 interesting concept with the concrete and masonry tape. I just did 4 boards with 32 cakes quite similar to your setup. The only difference is that I use 2 mini zip ties per fuse to secure the fuses together. From all of my testing, using the 2 zip tie method with the wicks facing the proper direction, I haven't had any cakes skipped. Even while using the 0.4 burn rate fuse. Nice job awesome setup!
Hey Brandon! Great video! I am making my first firework show this 4th of July. Do you have any suggestions on how long the show should be for a beginner?
Hi International MTBPro, thanks for watching! I would focus more on budget allocations than length. Spend what you feel comfortable with then you can determine your fusing. To make the show last longer you can use slow visco (30 seconds per foot) for the beginning, then transition to perfect fuse (10-13 seconds per foot). Good luck with the show and stay safe!
Hi Toy Union, thanks for watching! I have never had an issue using the Scott's green "rough surface" masking tape. For 2020, both the HOA and my stuff were fused with this tape and we had a 100% fire rate.
Hi Chris McClellan, thanks for watching! Timing isn't too bad. Just figure out the timing of your fuse, usually given in a seconds per foot designation. Divide that by 12 to get your seconds per inch. Once you have your seconds per inch, you can use a cloth measuring tape to measure the length of your fuse from cake to cake so you will know what speed of fuse you need to run to avoid dark space in the sky. If you live outside the U.S., it should be even easier because everything will be metric instead of confusing imperial lol. Hope this helps and good luck!
Do you do these particular shows for pay? Or do you just do it with your own budget for friends/family/personal enjoyment? Also, if you're comfortable sharing, how much did it cost you to put this specific show together, and if you had to make a rough estimate, how much might it cost today (given the price increases after covid)?
Prices depend on a lot of different variables. For his show of what's in the video, it's probably between 2-4k at the time of this video. And that also depends on if he bought wholesale, retail and where he went. I see phantom stuff in there and if he got it right from phantom, that has always been expensive. Right now, you're looking at probably 45 average price retail for 500g cakes, 90-100 for shell kits and 200g are all over the place. Again, it all depends on where you go too. This info is just from where I typically go for retail.
Hi Nathan, fuse burn rates ca be calculated from the burn rate supplied on the fuse. Duration time for cakes I would watch videos of and time them from first launch to last launch, then put that info into an excel spreadsheet to keep track of it.
Hi Backyard Pyro Kanuth, thanks for watching! I used Scotch Rough Surface masking tape (green in color but not to be confused with Frog tape). It works excellent. Between the HOA and my product for 2020, we had a 100% fire rate this year.
Are you using a one fuse setup instead of electronics for economy? If you can afford Cobra, you'll never want to fuse again! You have no overlap and no dark sky. But there is something very satisfying about fusing up boards, I do it occasionally for 3-6 cakes on a rainy day. Michael ATF54 Texas licensed pyrotechnician
Hi mguerramd, thanks for watching! I am running fuse due to cost constraints. I'm lucky that my wife lets me spend what I do on the pyro little lone a Cobra system.
Most of my tubes I order pre-made ready to go from Pyroboom. I do also order irregular tubes from Pyroboom which come unplugged and require me to plug the tubes myself. I sometimes also convert Excal tubes. In either case, I only ever run HDPE tubes and nothing else. HDPE are by far, the safest tubes to run.
Hi Brad Hokanson, thanks for watching! Sadly, the only way I have found is to watch a video or in some cases, the manufacturer will list the time duration of the cake. I keep an excel spreadsheet that lists details such as name of the cake, where I bought it, quantity, how much it cost, and the time duration of the cake. That way, after I look it up one time, I will have quick access to that information for many years to come.
Hello Reptile Dude, thanks for watching! I am sure you could use heat shrink if you don't mind living dangerously and have good healthcare insurance! I am a troll (get it, I live under the bridge), SE area of the mitten.
Brandon C lol nice! I was hoping you would have picked up on my sarcasm lmao. It would be a pain in the, you know what, to run. You would have to precut every tube, and then wire it backwards lol. I think your method is better.
@@thereptiledude7247 The Pyro Product seen here in the 2019 show is about $1,600, not including cost of supplies like fuse, liquid nails, nuts/bolts/washers, plywood, ect. For 2019, I was the sole contributor. For 2020, I teamed up with an HOA and we made a large purchase qualify us for wholesale pricing.
I’m thinking about making a mortar rack similar to how yours are! I think you even mentioned there was a tutorial you had. My question is those look like they’re staked down into the ground. If your show is on a gravel road, how would you stabilize those?
Hi Sam Craig, thanks for watching and thanks for the question! If the gravel road is level, you probably don't really need to have any stabilization. The 30 shot racks probably weight in around 45-50lbs after being fully loaded. But if you still want some sort of stabilization, you could hammer some re-bar through the eye hooks on the ends of the racks. You can buy 2' sections of re-bar from most big box hardware stores like Home Depot or Lowes. Hammer 1' into the ground and leave 1' above ground going through the eye hooks. It will not apply downward force, however, it would ensure that the racks will not tip over. And re-bar should be fairly easy to hammer into the ground if you have a large enough hammer. Pouring water on the ground where you will hammer in the re-bar can also soften the dirt if the dirt is exceptionally hard. I have a video on how to make 30 shot racks on my channel if you are interested. Good luck with your show!
For consumer fireworks, you've went above and beyond!!! Thanks for taking the time with your display setup demonstration!! This yes I've bought mortar racks, and cobra firing system , lots of different speed fuse . The way you glue the fireworks to the board is a game changer for me ! Incorporating different speed fuse on the board is spectacular. This will take me some time and configuration, but for the amount of money one spends on fireworks let's make the best out of the night!
Used your videos to fuse my show for this year. It worked great. Thanks for the video!
man i wish i had a phantom fireworks retailer near me!
ASLO looks amazing !
Very cool...love to even better explanation of your timing sheet. Thanks!
Very thorough job, great in depth walk through 👍🏼
Hi TheReelChris, thanks for watching and the kind words!
Very well done video. Lots of useful information. Hope to see a video of the show sometime.
Brandon, great videos! Thank you! I'm a first-timer for a fused show and have watched your set of videos 4 or 5 time now. I'm starting small but I'd also like to incorporate a few 500g ground fountains into my show (e.g. Amazing Joker, Evil Priest, Peacock) but they shower a LOT of ground sparks. Do you have any experience whether the level of protection you use is sufficient to protect against misfires from that level of exposure? I'll try to use prudent placement to minimize it of course.
Good lord, man. Get 2 sawhorses and work on the fusing while standing. YIKES.
HAHAHAH I LEARNED THE HARD WAY… my legs are dead
Me crying: You bring so much honor to our country ….lol
Is there a benefit to cutting the paper off and exposing the fireworks?
I saw on another video that it helps with debris.
Great info just what I needed for my show in MI. Thanks!
What was the full length of this display? How long did your show last?
Do you not need to take into account the burn time for the manufactured fuse attached to the cake?
Great Video! Especially about the angling with the wood block... I kind of Jimmy rig things together and it works but not as clean
Thanks! And thanks for watching! I'm hoping I can put out some more content soon but video editing takes a long time lol
@@brandonc7450 I know the feeling... I have 3 or 4 or 6 videos to edit on my channel...
Thank you for this.
Did I miss when you say which type of tape you use?
Rough surface masking tape. www.homedepot.com/p/3M-Scotch-1-41-in-x-60-1-yds-Masking-Tape-for-Rough-Surfaces-in-Green-2060-36AP/206298155
Watch Part 1.
New SUB! Good shit!!!
Can you use 8" ties
Would you possibly share your list of cakes you buy and source of purchase.
Thank you, this was exactly what I needed. So you have never had an issue with the painters tape? Just want to make sure there is no chance that the tape would somehow prevent the next fuse from lighting.
Hi Josh, thanks for watching! I have never had a problem using the painters tape. This green painters tape is designed for use on concrete and masonry, so it is a little bit more aggressive than the standard blue painters tape. Firework fusing uses black powder internally and black powder has its own oxygen source within the chemical composition. So it is impossible to "smother" fusing using tape. You would basically have to dowse the fuse in water to stop it from burning. On a side note, I think I had 86 cakes and only 1 didn't light. The reason it didn't light is because the fuse coming out of the cake was about 1/4" long and I was running my quickest fuse to it (0.4 seconds per foot burn rate). There just wasn't enough surface area for the super quick fuse to light it. What I should have done is extended the cake fuse with a piece of safety fuse, then connected it to my super quick fuse. Ill be sure to do this next time to get a 100% launch rate. Again thanks for watching and good luck with your show!
@@brandonc7450 interesting concept with the concrete and masonry tape. I just did 4 boards with 32 cakes quite similar to your setup. The only difference is that I use 2 mini zip ties per fuse to secure the fuses together. From all of my testing, using the 2 zip tie method with the wicks facing the proper direction, I haven't had any cakes skipped. Even while using the 0.4 burn rate fuse. Nice job awesome setup!
Hey Brandon! Great video! I am making my first firework show this 4th of July. Do you have any suggestions on how long the show should be for a beginner?
Hi International MTBPro, thanks for watching! I would focus more on budget allocations than length. Spend what you feel comfortable with then you can determine your fusing. To make the show last longer you can use slow visco (30 seconds per foot) for the beginning, then transition to perfect fuse (10-13 seconds per foot). Good luck with the show and stay safe!
Thank you Brandon C!
great job buddy, on the "how to" part, id like to see the effect. Is there a video yet of this? thanx again.
Hi Fabian Sepulveda, thanks for watching! I have a video of these boards from last year, here is the link ruclips.net/video/Q_Xo4QDyaMk/видео.html
Did you ever have an issue the tape and fuse stopping at some point because of the tape?
Hi Toy Union, thanks for watching! I have never had an issue using the Scott's green "rough surface" masking tape. For 2020, both the HOA and my stuff were fused with this tape and we had a 100% fire rate.
Sorry, would love to see and explain in detail your timing sheet. thanks!
Hi Chris McClellan, thanks for watching! Timing isn't too bad. Just figure out the timing of your fuse, usually given in a seconds per foot designation. Divide that by 12 to get your seconds per inch. Once you have your seconds per inch, you can use a cloth measuring tape to measure the length of your fuse from cake to cake so you will know what speed of fuse you need to run to avoid dark space in the sky. If you live outside the U.S., it should be even easier because everything will be metric instead of confusing imperial lol. Hope this helps and good luck!
Brandon C ok, great..thank you!
Do you do these particular shows for pay? Or do you just do it with your own budget for friends/family/personal enjoyment?
Also, if you're comfortable sharing, how much did it cost you to put this specific show together, and if you had to make a rough estimate, how much might it cost today (given the price increases after covid)?
Prices depend on a lot of different variables. For his show of what's in the video, it's probably between 2-4k at the time of this video. And that also depends on if he bought wholesale, retail and where he went. I see phantom stuff in there and if he got it right from phantom, that has always been expensive. Right now, you're looking at probably 45 average price retail for 500g cakes, 90-100 for shell kits and 200g are all over the place. Again, it all depends on where you go too. This info is just from where I typically go for retail.
Can you share your fuse burn rate spreadsheet? Also, where were you able to find duration information for your cakes?
I was going to ask the same thing!
Hi Nathan, fuse burn rates ca be calculated from the burn rate supplied on the fuse. Duration time for cakes I would watch videos of and time them from first launch to last launch, then put that info into an excel spreadsheet to keep track of it.
How much does doing a show like this cost?
What kinda tape you use brother? Love the videos
Hi Backyard Pyro Kanuth, thanks for watching! I used Scotch Rough Surface masking tape (green in color but not to be confused with Frog tape). It works excellent. Between the HOA and my product for 2020, we had a 100% fire rate this year.
Are you using a one fuse setup instead of electronics for economy? If you can afford Cobra, you'll never want to fuse again! You have no overlap and no dark sky. But there is something very satisfying about fusing up boards, I do it occasionally for 3-6 cakes on a rainy day.
Michael
ATF54
Texas licensed pyrotechnician
Hi mguerramd, thanks for watching! I am running fuse due to cost constraints. I'm lucky that my wife lets me spend what I do on the pyro little lone a Cobra system.
Brandon C You get great results with your careful attention to timing detail.
Thank you
Did you make your own tubes?
Most of my tubes I order pre-made ready to go from Pyroboom. I do also order irregular tubes from Pyroboom which come unplugged and require me to plug the tubes myself. I sometimes also convert Excal tubes. In either case, I only ever run HDPE tubes and nothing else. HDPE are by far, the safest tubes to run.
How do you know how long each cake will last? I have used the QR codes on the side that shows you a video but there should be a better way!
Hi Brad Hokanson, thanks for watching! Sadly, the only way I have found is to watch a video or in some cases, the manufacturer will list the time duration of the cake. I keep an excel spreadsheet that lists details such as name of the cake, where I bought it, quantity, how much it cost, and the time duration of the cake. That way, after I look it up one time, I will have quick access to that information for many years to come.
Brandon C any chance you can share the mortar rack video with me?
@@bradhokanson8450 ruclips.net/video/hBugdaNo18E/видео.html
This is a good reference point. However, there is not a "burn time" for some fireworks.
www.wikifireworks.com/aboutus.php
@@craigholtzmanjr Hi Craigholtzmanjr, thanks for sharing that information!
Could you use heat shrink ;) lol. Great info. Are u a Yooper or mitten?
Hello Reptile Dude, thanks for watching! I am sure you could use heat shrink if you don't mind living dangerously and have good healthcare insurance! I am a troll (get it, I live under the bridge), SE area of the mitten.
Brandon C lol nice! I was hoping you would have picked up on my sarcasm lmao. It would be a pain in the, you know what, to run. You would have to precut every tube, and then wire it backwards lol.
I think your method is better.
Brandon C roughly how much is a show like this? Are you the sole contributor or does the neighborhood donate?
@@thereptiledude7247 The Pyro Product seen here in the 2019 show is about $1,600, not including cost of supplies like fuse, liquid nails, nuts/bolts/washers, plywood, ect. For 2019, I was the sole contributor. For 2020, I teamed up with an HOA and we made a large purchase qualify us for wholesale pricing.
Brandon C that’s awesome. Yeah you’re one board cost more than I have spent the last few years lol.
Are you going to be recording this years show?
How much does a show like this cost lighting up your block
Hi Joe F42, thanks for watching! This show consisted of about $1,600 in pyrotechnic product.
I’m thinking about making a mortar rack similar to how yours are! I think you even mentioned there was a tutorial you had. My question is those look like they’re staked down into the ground. If your show is on a gravel road, how would you stabilize those?
Sam Craig you could take scrap wood and nail multiple mortar racks together to stabilize them.
Hi Sam Craig, thanks for watching and thanks for the question! If the gravel road is level, you probably don't really need to have any stabilization. The 30 shot racks probably weight in around 45-50lbs after being fully loaded. But if you still want some sort of stabilization, you could hammer some re-bar through the eye hooks on the ends of the racks. You can buy 2' sections of re-bar from most big box hardware stores like Home Depot or Lowes. Hammer 1' into the ground and leave 1' above ground going through the eye hooks. It will not apply downward force, however, it would ensure that the racks will not tip over. And re-bar should be fairly easy to hammer into the ground if you have a large enough hammer. Pouring water on the ground where you will hammer in the re-bar can also soften the dirt if the dirt is exceptionally hard. I have a video on how to make 30 shot racks on my channel if you are interested. Good luck with your show!
Brandon C Thanks Brandon!! I’ll be sure to check that video out!!
Legal to none is a great cake