Thomas, Thanks for watching. The cost of a snow melting system like this is dependent on one main parameter: the size of the heated area. In this project, the customers selected “tire tracks format,” which means the heated area is made up of two strips of roughly 2’ X 20’ (about 80 square feet total), which is very affordable when compared to full coverage at 200 square feet (10’ X 20’). By entering your project’s dimensions in our Instant Quote Tool (www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/my_instant_quote/start), you can get a custom estimate of how much it would cost. If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to give us a call (800) 875-5285.
My dad DIY'd this type of system back in 1996 on our driveway, works like a charm even today! just run heavy duty PVC pipes with anti freeze in them. keep a radiator in the garage connected to the pipes and done! once press of the button and snow melts away.... time and time again.
@thesimplegig You'd need a pump, radiator, and a fan. The cold coolant runs through the pump into radiator, warm air passes over the radiator heating the antifreeze, antifreeze goes through one leg of the pipe to the bottom of driveway, back up the other leg, and completes the circuit back at the pump.
@@d00der41 so you'd need a well-heated garage? Or do you put an electric or propane heater in position to blow hot air through the radiator?? I doubt that the 40° air in my garage would warm the antifreeze enough to melt ice at 10°
These systems often have to be installed well in advance of Winter to make sure everything is working before snow falls. You can see the system at work here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=Ugw_P6HCZXgtUxFppsx4AaABAg
Jersey Tom, you don't just have to take our word for it, we've added a timelapse video of the snow melting system in action. you can find it at the 6:23 section of this video by clicking on the more info button on the top right of the video. or see it as a stand alone video here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html. Thanks for watching!
I can see this making sense for homeowners who are too old, or have disabiities and can't shovel snow. Another upside, is that the homeowner will recover the cost of the system, since they won't have to pay for a snow plow service during every snowfall + a system like this will actually add additional value to the home when the homeowner decides to sell the house.
I think every streets and sidewalks needs one of those in northern part of United States during the harsh winter months and the same here in northern Utah as well
saintpine exactly lol, I’d even rig a shovel type plough on wheels, so that it could be attached to my spend thousands just to have some tyre tracks lol. I’d be happy to pay some kid to do it each morning too lol
I wished these heating coils be installed under the roads and under the freeways so there WON'T be black ice on the roads but it would be expensive and hard to do but at the same time it could save lives from pileup accidents.
The system does not heat up more than it needs to be above freezing so that the snow and ice will melt. The summer sun's radiant heat would do more to alter your asphalt driveway than this system.
This is likely not possible unless there was something wrong with how much power the system was drawing and it was not set up with the proper sensors and controls. If you visit our operating cost calculator here: www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/snow-melting/cost-calculator You can see that even for an area like Beaver Creek (with $0.15 kWh pricing), running these systems for 8 hours a day on a 1000 sq. ft. area would be $83 a day, and only $581 for a full week. Even at 24 hours a day, the system would have to be over 3,500 square feet of coverage to get a bill that large. But many driveways are simply not this large, and not running each day for more than 6 hours on average. These systems are designed to turn on when it starts snowing to help immediately melt falling snow and stop once the temperature and moisture sensors indicate there is no more snow on the surface of the area. So it's very unlikely that a system would run up that large a bill unless it was not installed correctly or something wrong with the electrical at the house. Thanks for watching!
The ground temperature below 42 inches is normally 55 degrees. You can tap into that free temperature with a loop system that captures the surrounding temperature of deeper pipes and lay them near the top under the driveway to melt the snow and ice. If you have enough land, you can capture enough to even line your outer walls with pipes so that when the outside air temp is like 22 below zero, your walls will be closer to 55 degrees thus saving you heating costs. Regardless of which melting system you decide to install you want to make sure the water created from melting snow has a place to go or you will create an ice sheet somewhere else. If you provide a drain for the melted water to go, you also need to provide heating on the drain until you reach a depth that the water will no longer freeze. This is usually below 42 inches.
While geo-thermal energy is a great resource, not everyone is able to dig that deep into their yards, nor do it for an area that would capture enough heat to melt snow off the driveway. Our systems don't require you to dig that deep into the surface and as a result can be easily repaired should something happen to the cable/mat after it has been installed. Our controls have an "hold-on" feature that keeps the system running intermittently after the initial warm up to make sure that all the ice/snow is melted away without refreezing.
The system had to be installed well before winter, so it wasn't running yet. But you can see it at work here a few months later: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=UgxYOtGR6Kw6uNhLZRJ4AaABAg
Thank you @jerzcnate! This system is actually great for sloped driveways as well, we had a customer install this in a winding sloped driveway so they would not have to shovel snow on a steep slope.
There actually is a product like that and you can find it here: heattrak.com/ . While these systems are easy to roll out, they may not turn on and melt snow in the cases of drifting snow for instance. Thanks for watching!
note I install this here in New Jersey and they are a great investment for someone who might be desable or to old to clean the snow,, but it's really really expensive it takes a massive amount of powers/electricity / most of the time we need to upgrade your electrical service up to a 400amp just to keep up..note a average home has a 100 or 200 amp cervise ..so a 2 car lent drive way will cost you any were from $20k to $ 30k .. ...
I thought of this when I was around 8 years old or something, because my dad had to spend around half an hour shoveling before my brothers and I got to open out presents and stuff, but I guess someone else has patented it. Oh well, lol.
You can actually watch it working here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=Ugy-14SkrMWCFi1SLgN4AaABAg . and here: ruclips.net/video/hRzHjo78t7Y/видео.html
i would lay some tin foil or something similar under the mesh to direct the heat upwards so the system doesnt warm the ground underneath, save electricity
Hi there, the system is actually embedded in the asphalt so that it effectively warms up that layer of the driveway. Our Environ product actually has a foil like backing that allows the heat to be reflected back up for underfloor heating.
War of jake bots 23 he said never run a paving machine over it not a roller.. Weight from roller or cars probably doesnt matter as much as the drag caused by the pave machine would probably tear or rip.
This is exactly it - a roller is very different from the large paving machines typically used for asphalt, and this recommendation is to insure that the heating cable is left undamaged during installation. Thank you for your input Summerlin866!
Only a portion of the driveway is wired. I'm assuming the electrical connections will be to 240V. Heating elements that long and large will generate very expensive utility bills. Such a large load will also require a reconfigured electrical box because the amps required might be larger than the standard 20A, or 25A. Also, the PVC conduits needed to be enclosed.
It is indeed 240V, this system uses 15kWh of electricity. Some projects do require the electrical being reconfigured, so we always advise customers to check their home limitations while planning and contact their provider if more electricity will be required for their heating needs. As for the conduit, it was enclosed for this system according to local code and requirements for this type of system.
Good luck! Mine broke after 2 years, only 1 side of a double garage worked, now 8 years later only one tire lane works😕 50’ driveway $30/day electricity! Laid down 8 strips.
Hi Nick, Did you call the company that sold you the system? Or did you happen to purchase it from us? We've never had a system fail due to how the system was manufactured - it is often damage that occurs during installation by the driveway installers. We offer repair service for these systems and with the tools we have, only a small section is excavated to make any necessary repairs to the cables if needed. You can read more about the process here: www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/posts/How-to-Troubleshoot-and-Repair-a-Heated-Driveway
There is little to no yearly upkeep for our snow melt systems. Most of the work goes into installing them correctly and making sure the sensors for controls are connected properly and located in the best spot. As for energy usage, most systems would only need to run on average for 6 hours per snow day. As for the cost, when this system was installed, the going rate was $0.08 per kWh (Chicago suburbs), this system uses 15 kWh and costs roughly $1.20 per hour to run. For an average snowfall, you would run this system for about 6 hours in a day, costing you only $7.20 per snow event. There is always an option to manually turn off the system should you want to further cut down on energy cost.
Since it's asphalt, all of this work is typically done in one day since the asphalt has to be dumped and spread out while it's still hot and malleable. We always recommend that installers have the snow melt part of this project ready to go down quickly when doing asphalt or concrete so the materials do not sit too long and cure early. Thanks for watching!
Hi Matheus, these installs typically happen well before Winter and therefore the system could not be shown working during that time of year. If you watch this video you can see it at work: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html As for repairs, with electrical tools and thermal cameras, you could easily detect any issues with the system and make isolated repairs to parts of the driveway without ripping up the whole system.
Hi there, we actually have a separate video of the system at work. You can find it here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=UgiMqkz44hrLaHgCoAEC These systems typically need to be installed Spring - Early Fall, so showing it at work had to wait until we had some snowfall. Thanks for watching!
We actually do have a timelapse from a few months after this system was installed. You can see if over here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=UgygaaYP2GtH1XOTRYd4AaABAg
This system does not address the issue of having the end of the driveway getting buried with city snow plows. Somebody has got to shovel that mess out of the way. I have two snow blowers, a single stage and a two stage. I use whatever blower is best suited for the snowfall. Didn't spend a lot either. The two stage was picked off the curb. I did a little routine maintenance and it now runs like a champ.
There's not much that can be done with the end of a driveway when the city is typically responsible for plowing the roads - with this system, at least there's no clearing your driveway, patio or stairs which saves a lot on time and effort.
This is very cool. I always wondered about a heated drive with asphalt as the house I grew up in had a concrete heated driveway. As long as the switch was turned on before the snowfall it would work great...but if it wasn't....we still had to shovel. I grew up in MI and it was back in the 70's......with the cost of electricity these days....I will have to stick with my snow thrower. But hey thanks for a great video presentation..thumbs up !!! ;-) JD Lake George, NY
It actually varies quite a bit depending on your kWh rate and the size of the project. We have an operating cost calculator for these systems to help you plan ahead though: www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/snow-melting/cost-calculator
@@Diddy_Doodat Actually the driveway temp sensor determines when it is on or off. Unless you do it manually when it snows, But if you rely on that sensor that thing will be on constantly whenever the driveway gets cold enough snow or no snow. Thats got to cost a huge amount.
I wonder why this isn't more common place. Seems to me like it wouldn't be very expensive to maintain, and it doesn't seem like very sophisticated technology. Wondering if it would be possible to make something like this through every major highway. All the accidents that could be prevented and snow removal effort that could be circumvented. If all personal vehicles are going electric, we are probably going to need more power plants anyway.
They tried something very similar in Ladd Canyon on I-84 in Oregon. What a failure. Yes, it melted the snow where the wires were at, but all it did was turned the melted snow into solid glaze ice all around the wires.
These systems often have to be installed well in advance of Winter to make sure everything is working before snow falls. You can see the system at work here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=Ugw_P6HCZXgtUxFppsx4AaABAg
This will increase your electric bill .I do not now how it is in US, but here electric power becomes a lot more expensive during the winter months .....You can clear the driveway first with a shovel and if the ground freezes and gets hard and slippery you can add fine grain sand or if you like to melt the ice you can add salt as well. If you mix sand and salt in a bucket you have a wary effective cocktail to make the driveway non slippery and ice will start to melt as well ....When all the ice and snow is gone you can simply collect the sand from your driveway to re use it again.
While it may slightly increase your electric bill, for those that are unable to clear their driveway of snow (whether physically able to or simply a lack of time to do so) this system gives them peace of mind that they can have an snow/ice-free driveway. As more and more people age in their homes here in the U.S., these types of systems make it easy to have a safe walkway to and from the car so that things like unloading groceries are less hazardous during the winter.
Thats true it will benefit people who is in no condition to clear their driveway on their own..And i guess you can regulate the heat with an thermostat to get a stable electric usage....
That is definitely a huge project and electric heating may not be the most energy efficient for a driveway that large. For tire track coverage on a 1/4 mile long driveway, you'd be using 264.1 kWh an hour (the national average of $0.15 per kWh would come out to roughly $39.62 to run per hour.) There are also options with geothermal systems that we've heard have helped with much larger projects and uses the earth's natural radiant heat beneath the surface to help melt snow. Thanks for watching though!
Thanks for the compliment, we think this project is pretty cool too! As for your other question, we'd recommend taking a look at this handy guide: www.digminecraft.com/getting_started/how_to_tame_horse.php
KC, our systems use 50 watts per square foot. And if you opt for tire track coverage, as these homeowners did, you cut down on electrical cost significantly. Compared to the cost of salt bags and back breaking shoveling, it can definitely be worth it in areas that have lower electrical costs.
We actually have most of our customers in the northern Midwest, including Wisconsin. We know it's not for everyone, but for those that do not have the time or the physical capability to clear the snow themselves, these systems offer peace of mind and a safe walking area during winter. Thanks for watching!
HI, I wondering how about the water that froze after snow melted? Will it be slippery? Or the desisgn of the road allow water to melt and flow to the side. P/s: sorry for my bad grammar
This is actually a really good question that we see come up a lot with our snow melting products. All of our automatic controllers have Hold-on time feature after the initial warming up of the mats. This feature ensures that all the snow is melted from the surface, and also that the system continues to operate and evaporate the surface water without it refreezing.
Actually if a spot in the cable fails or becomes damaged during installation, it is possible for the rest of the system to still function. But we do offer repair services should anything happen so you can make sure everything is in working order. Our team would only need to excavate the surface material in the spots where there is damage, make the repair and then patch that spot. So no need to tear up the entire area if there is anything that needs fixing. You can learn more about it here: www.warmlyyours.com/services/troubleshooting Thanks for watching!
This would be expensive to install because the final layer of paving has to be done by hand with shovels and no paving company wants to do this. Also, the surface would not be a cosistant thickness due to the absence of a paving machine screed board, and surface would cause a bouncy ride.
While a paving machine can't be used, there are many driveways that have been installed just like this with our snow melt system. We've have had no issues that compromise the functionality of the asphalt driveway with this type of installation, plus no more salting or shoveling!
Well, it turns out that many customers are willing to pay a bit more for the type of install needed if it means no more shoveling or salting their driveway. Investing in a system that's installed correctly will pay off in the long run. 👍
self regulating heater cable like this has been around for over 20 years nothing new can be used for anything from stopping pipes from freezing under lagging to being used in trays to fit under treads on metal fire escapes to stop them freezing
Hi elementaleighteight, Yes, we always recommend that our products be tested before being installed/paved over/tiled over, etc. We provide an Ohms reading warranty card for our customers to verify their product is in good condition before being installed.
I've been wondering why I haven't seen people doing something like this before ever since I first saw videos of radiant floor heat coils being installed...
So, how far north is this still usable? I mean, when it’s a heavy snowfall and several degrees below freezing it’s bound to become pretty icy if the snow melts and freezes. Like leaving the compartment heater plugged in the car during a week of heavy snowfall with low low temperature
Our systems are able to run efficiently below freezing until it hits 17 degrees Fahrenheit. At this temperature, the system is not melting at the same rate as before, and becomes less economical to run. Most controls for our systems have a built-in feature to shut off around this temperature to ensure it is not using electricity inefficiently. We have customers who have installed this up in Canada near Toronto and still get plenty of use out of it throughout the Winter.
Lets see this in the winter...No reflective material under the mat which mean 1/2 the heat will go down into the ground which is worthless. When it snows you will have to bare patches down your driveway. What voltage are the mats using ?
These systems are embedded in the surface material of your driveway (whether that's asphalt, concrete or in mortar under pavers). By doing this, the heat is evenly distributed throughout the surface and allows it to warm up consistently. Unless someone damages the heating elements of the system before installation, there will not be any patches of unmelted snow while the system is operating. The configuration in this installation was a unique type of tire track layout that the homeowners picked. These mats use 50 watts per square foot, you can learn more about our snow melt systems on our website: www.warmlyyours.com/products/snow-melting
We installed this system in the Fall of 2016, so there wasn't any snow yet. But we actually have a second video where you can see it in action here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html
I do interlocking landscaping (Pavers) on driveways in the Toronto area. can you put brick or flagstone over this or do you have to have an asphalt driveway?
How much would such a system cost, and what parameters determine the cost? Are there any options or accessories with such a system?
Thomas, Thanks for watching. The cost of a snow melting system like this is dependent on one main parameter: the size of the heated area. In this project, the customers selected “tire tracks format,” which means the heated area is made up of two strips of roughly 2’ X 20’ (about 80 square feet total), which is very affordable when compared to full coverage at 200 square feet (10’ X 20’).
By entering your project’s dimensions in our Instant Quote Tool (www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/my_instant_quote/start), you can get a custom estimate of how much it would cost. If you have any questions, don’t hesitate to give us a call (800) 875-5285.
it would be much cheaper just to shovel the snow off the driveway compared to heating it.
WarmlyYours
All that and you don't even show how the system works?
This installation is actually for an electric radiant heat system.
You can actually see a time-lapse of the snow melting system at work here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html Thanks for watching!
My dad DIY'd this type of system back in 1996 on our driveway, works like a charm even today! just run heavy duty PVC pipes with anti freeze in them. keep a radiator in the garage connected to the pipes and done! once press of the button and snow melts away.... time and time again.
?. Please explain. Pump? Heat?
@thesimplegig You'd need a pump, radiator, and a fan. The cold coolant runs through the pump into radiator, warm air passes over the radiator heating the antifreeze, antifreeze goes through one leg of the pipe to the bottom of driveway, back up the other leg, and completes the circuit back at the pump.
@@d00der41 so you'd need a well-heated garage? Or do you put an electric or propane heater in position to blow hot air through the radiator?? I doubt that the 40° air in my garage would warm the antifreeze enough to melt ice at 10°
We put in a similar system in for a house in Reno, 6 months later the snow senser went bad and no one noticed it until the $3000 power bill came in.
Robert Watterson ouch. Guess it's time to move away from typical electrical bill and go solar.
solar wont able store enough energy efficiently to melt the snow
Robert Watterson lol
i bet you could cook eggs on that driveway
The solar panels would be covered by snow there for generating no electricity. Better put a heater on them too, the model of green efficiency.
Would’ve been really nice if they would’ve showed a picture of it in the winter time being used!
These systems often have to be installed well in advance of Winter to make sure everything is working before snow falls. You can see the system at work here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=Ugw_P6HCZXgtUxFppsx4AaABAg
What a time to be alive.
Well, with no pictures or video of the system working, I guess we have to take your word for it, huh?!
Jersey Tom, you don't just have to take our word for it, we've added a timelapse video of the snow melting system in action. you can find it at the 6:23 section of this video by clicking on the more info button on the top right of the video. or see it as a stand alone video here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html.
Thanks for watching!
solar freaking road ways!!!
Jersey Tom in yo face!!
I can see this making sense for homeowners who are too old, or have disabiities and can't shovel snow. Another upside, is that the homeowner will recover the cost of the system, since they won't have to pay for a snow plow service during every snowfall + a system like this will actually add additional value to the home when the homeowner decides to sell the house.
I think every streets and sidewalks needs one of those in northern part of United States during the harsh winter months and the same here in northern Utah as well
Wish my house had this. Spent the day clearing the packed snow turned ice and now 6 inches are forecast for tomorrow...
I went to their other Website. It's awesome. Excellent for Steep driveways, or any driveway where snow and ice are a problem.
I would suggest a rooftop over the driveway with solar panels.
non snow below and free energy when it's not snowing.
saintpine exactly lol, I’d even rig a shovel type plough on wheels, so that it could be attached to my spend thousands just to have some tyre tracks lol. I’d be happy to pay some kid to do it each morning too lol
Snowy roads are just beautiful
I would have this on during the fall to attract all the neighborhood cats
DumplingSaysNo And snakes 😂
I thought of this when I was 10 years old back in 1980 but to put it on highways
Exploxer25 the highway by Thompson Manitoba Canada is heated but I think they use some type of geothermal heat sink system.
jim bob dose it work?
Exploxer25 yooooo ur so smart
I just nominated you for the Nobel Prize. Good luck man
When I was 10 I thought about blowing the salt off the streets so I wouldn’t have to go to school
I wished these heating coils be installed under the roads and under the freeways so there WON'T be black ice on the roads but it would be expensive and hard to do but at the same time it could save lives from pileup accidents.
I love how you put instructions on the video like somebody is going to do this at home lol
this is straight outta red and green handy man corner
Cool
I think this will make it more prune to cracks in the asphalt more easily
The system does not heat up more than it needs to be above freezing so that the snow and ice will melt. The summer sun's radiant heat would do more to alter your asphalt driveway than this system.
I actually helped an electrition install one of these . The end result very Kool for grandparents but the labor and cost are back breaking
I worked in a home in Beaver Creek that had this type of system installed. When it was in use their electric bill was $5000 per week!
This is likely not possible unless there was something wrong with how much power the system was drawing and it was not set up with the proper sensors and controls.
If you visit our operating cost calculator here: www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/snow-melting/cost-calculator You can see that even for an area like Beaver Creek (with $0.15 kWh pricing), running these systems for 8 hours a day on a 1000 sq. ft. area would be $83 a day, and only $581 for a full week. Even at 24 hours a day, the system would have to be over 3,500 square feet of coverage to get a bill that large. But many driveways are simply not this large, and not running each day for more than 6 hours on average.
These systems are designed to turn on when it starts snowing to help immediately melt falling snow and stop once the temperature and moisture sensors indicate there is no more snow on the surface of the area. So it's very unlikely that a system would run up that large a bill unless it was not installed correctly or something wrong with the electrical at the house.
Thanks for watching!
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wow that wonderful system heater inside the driveway...
did test already and show video while heavy snow to melty
The ground temperature below 42 inches is normally 55 degrees. You can tap into that free temperature with a loop system that captures the surrounding temperature of deeper pipes and lay them near the top under the driveway to melt the snow and ice. If you have enough land, you can capture enough to even line your outer walls with pipes so that when the outside air temp is like 22 below zero, your walls will be closer to 55 degrees thus saving you heating costs.
Regardless of which melting system you decide to install you want to make sure the water created from melting snow has a place to go or you will create an ice sheet somewhere else. If you provide a drain for the melted water to go, you also need to provide heating on the drain until you reach a depth that the water will no longer freeze. This is usually below 42 inches.
While geo-thermal energy is a great resource, not everyone is able to dig that deep into their yards, nor do it for an area that would capture enough heat to melt snow off the driveway. Our systems don't require you to dig that deep into the surface and as a result can be easily repaired should something happen to the cable/mat after it has been installed. Our controls have an "hold-on" feature that keeps the system running intermittently after the initial warm up to make sure that all the ice/snow is melted away without refreezing.
Logistically this is very fascinating
Nice installation video. I would have loved to have seen if it worked! ⛄️
The system had to be installed well before winter, so it wasn't running yet. But you can see it at work here a few months later: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=UgxYOtGR6Kw6uNhLZRJ4AaABAg
This is great. Love 'warmly yours' and any heating system other than the old water heating pipes system. So awesome. 😀
This is a great video for a flat surface my driveway is a steep slope. Warmlyyours your crew did what looks to be an excellent job.
Thank you @jerzcnate! This system is actually great for sloped driveways as well, we had a customer install this in a winding sloped driveway so they would not have to shovel snow on a steep slope.
Why don't they sell something that you can just roll out only when it snows?
There actually is a product like that and you can find it here: heattrak.com/ . While these systems are easy to roll out, they may not turn on and melt snow in the cases of drifting snow for instance. Thanks for watching!
They do. It's called salt
Thank you for bringing up utility locates!!!
note I install this here in New Jersey and they are a great investment for someone who might be desable or to old to clean the snow,, but it's really really expensive it takes a massive amount of powers/electricity / most of the time we need to upgrade your electrical service up to a 400amp just to keep up..note a average home has a 100 or 200 amp cervise ..so a 2 car lent drive way will cost you any were from $20k to $ 30k .. ...
I thought of this when I was around 8 years old or something, because my dad had to spend around half an hour shoveling before my brothers and I got to open out presents and stuff, but I guess someone else has patented it. Oh well, lol.
Unless you’re 100, these things have been out for many, many years, almost as long as electricity has existed.
Yeah show it to us in the winter see what it looks like and how it works
You can actually watch it working here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=Ugy-14SkrMWCFi1SLgN4AaABAg . and here: ruclips.net/video/hRzHjo78t7Y/видео.html
This type of heating coil would be good for in the side walks, front and rear steps, patios, and main entrance ways!
I been thinking about this idea forever
We love to see you working with the snow
Yesss, I totally need this in the Bay Area thanks RUclips.
i would lay some tin foil or something similar under the mesh to direct the heat upwards so the system doesnt warm the ground underneath, save electricity
Hi there, the system is actually embedded in the asphalt so that it effectively warms up that layer of the driveway. Our Environ product actually has a foil like backing that allows the heat to be reflected back up for underfloor heating.
i thought they said ur not supposed to roll over it with the roller but they did it anyways
The game 23 , not to use the roller on the bare mesh.
Echopractic what part did he not get, duh.....
War of jake bots 23 he said never run a paving machine over it not a roller.. Weight from roller or cars probably doesnt matter as much as the drag caused by the pave machine would probably tear or rip.
This is exactly it - a roller is very different from the large paving machines typically used for asphalt, and this recommendation is to insure that the heating cable is left undamaged during installation. Thank you for your input Summerlin866!
its a steam roller lol
Only a portion of the driveway is wired. I'm assuming the electrical connections will be to 240V. Heating elements that long and large will generate very expensive utility bills. Such a large load will also require a reconfigured electrical box because the amps required might be larger than the standard 20A, or 25A.
Also, the PVC conduits needed to be enclosed.
It is indeed 240V, this system uses 15kWh of electricity. Some projects do require the electrical being reconfigured, so we always advise customers to check their home limitations while planning and contact their provider if more electricity will be required for their heating needs. As for the conduit, it was enclosed for this system according to local code and requirements for this type of system.
I live in Arizona and it doesn't even snow where I live. But I still watched the whole video for some reason.
Good luck! Mine broke after 2 years, only 1 side of a double garage worked, now 8 years later only one tire lane works😕 50’ driveway $30/day electricity! Laid down 8 strips.
Hi Nick, Did you call the company that sold you the system? Or did you happen to purchase it from us? We've never had a system fail due to how the system was manufactured - it is often damage that occurs during installation by the driveway installers.
We offer repair service for these systems and with the tools we have, only a small section is excavated to make any necessary repairs to the cables if needed. You can read more about the process here: www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/posts/How-to-Troubleshoot-and-Repair-a-Heated-Driveway
this would use more energy than my entire house and the yearly upkeep would probably be massive.
There is little to no yearly upkeep for our snow melt systems. Most of the work goes into installing them correctly and making sure the sensors for controls are connected properly and located in the best spot. As for energy usage, most systems would only need to run on average for 6 hours per snow day.
As for the cost, when this system was installed, the going rate was $0.08 per kWh (Chicago suburbs), this system uses 15 kWh and costs roughly $1.20 per hour to run. For an average snowfall, you would run this system for about 6 hours in a day, costing you only $7.20 per snow event. There is always an option to manually turn off the system should you want to further cut down on energy cost.
WOW, holy pine needles, leaves, and dirt Batman... That driveway will last 1/2 as long as a well laid one.
Good video. Lmao liked the part about the 'steam roller" didn't see any steam
All that work, do the whole driveway!
Test the heating elements before burying - utmost importance! DOH!
"As they say on TV winter is coming" 0:15 I cant even lol Great video Thanks
That's lot of work. Wonder how many days it took. Looks pricey. Hopefully he pays fairly well to his hardworking guys.
Since it's asphalt, all of this work is typically done in one day since the asphalt has to be dumped and spread out while it's still hot and malleable. We always recommend that installers have the snow melt part of this project ready to go down quickly when doing asphalt or concrete so the materials do not sit too long and cure early. Thanks for watching!
Not only does the video do not show it working, it also proves how much of a trouble it is to install and make repairs on it
Hi Matheus, these installs typically happen well before Winter and therefore the system could not be shown working during that time of year. If you watch this video you can see it at work: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html As for repairs, with electrical tools and thermal cameras, you could easily detect any issues with the system and make isolated repairs to parts of the driveway without ripping up the whole system.
His voice will sell you anything.🤔 Nice video.
I hope you got a lot of business from this video! It's so informative and appealing!
Well let's see it in action guy!
Hi there, we actually have a separate video of the system at work. You can find it here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=UgiMqkz44hrLaHgCoAEC These systems typically need to be installed Spring - Early Fall, so showing it at work had to wait until we had some snowfall. Thanks for watching!
good job
This looks like the stuff you use to heat tiles in homes.
The two products are very similar, and we actually offer a variety of indoor floor heating products along with our snow-melt systems
That's some super dark concrete
Daddy is finally heating up the neighborhood!!!
yall need to make A timelapse of your system working
We actually do have a timelapse from a few months after this system was installed. You can see if over here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=UgygaaYP2GtH1XOTRYd4AaABAg
Why am I watching this.. i live in southern Arizona
Well then maybe you should see if they make one that cools your driveway.
This system does not address the issue of having the end of the driveway getting buried with city snow plows. Somebody has got to shovel that mess out of the way. I have two snow blowers, a single stage and a two stage. I use whatever blower is best suited for the snowfall. Didn't spend a lot either. The two stage was picked off the curb. I did a little routine maintenance and it now runs like a champ.
There's not much that can be done with the end of a driveway when the city is typically responsible for plowing the roads - with this system, at least there's no clearing your driveway, patio or stairs which saves a lot on time and effort.
This is very cool. I always wondered about a heated drive with asphalt as the house I grew up in had a concrete heated driveway. As long as the switch was turned on before the snowfall it would work great...but if it wasn't....we still had to shovel. I grew up in MI and it was back in the 70's......with the cost of electricity these days....I will have to stick with my snow thrower. But hey thanks for a great video presentation..thumbs up !!! ;-)
JD
Lake George, NY
Thank you JD for the kind words, thanks for watching!
This is just underfloor heating... but a lot more expensive to run.... XD
Burnt Toast
Yeah my bathroom floor has something similar.
Must be one heck of an electric bill.
It's not running at all times of the day or year you idiot's. You're talking about your bathroom and this is outside.
usually costs ab 28¢/hr
It actually varies quite a bit depending on your kWh rate and the size of the project. We have an operating cost calculator for these systems to help you plan ahead though: www.warmlyyours.com/en-US/snow-melting/cost-calculator
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Actually the driveway temp sensor determines when it is on or off. Unless you do it manually when it snows, But if you rely on that sensor that thing will be on constantly whenever the driveway gets cold enough snow or no snow. Thats got to cost a huge amount.
I would love to see this actually working
We actually have a separate time-lapse video here to see this product in action: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html Thanks for watching!
Like to see it work.
You can see it at work here Jeannan: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html
You know if you have deep snow fall this project will work.
Cool ass system!
Why am I even watching this? It hasn’t snowed at my house in 15 years!
This here. This is why the aliens won't visit us.
I bet this gets recommended to everyone...
Eversource will love you. more delivery charges
I deliver heating oil in PA and would take a couple dollar and hour cut in pay over the winter if all my customers had this system
I want to see it melt snow!!!!
You can see it at work here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html
I think we need something like that in every bridge we have
aboelsof alabed Agreed.
I wonder why this isn't more common place. Seems to me like it wouldn't be very expensive to maintain, and it doesn't seem like very sophisticated technology. Wondering if it would be possible to make something like this through every major highway. All the accidents that could be prevented and snow removal effort that could be circumvented. If all personal vehicles are going electric, we are probably going to need more power plants anyway.
Ohh my gaawwwdd. This is so baller. That electric bill alone is above my status. But if I won the lotto I'd totally roll this out.
I wouldn't, I would pay some fella to do it.....thats job creation.
They tried something very similar in Ladd Canyon on I-84 in Oregon. What a failure. Yes, it melted the snow where the wires were at, but all it did was turned the melted snow into solid glaze ice all around the wires.
The difference with our system is that it does not allow the snow to refreeze after melting. The water evaporates away from the heated area.
Wanted to see the product in action melting snow.
These systems often have to be installed well in advance of Winter to make sure everything is working before snow falls. You can see the system at work here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html&lc=Ugw_P6HCZXgtUxFppsx4AaABAg
This will increase your electric bill .I do not now how it is in US, but here electric power becomes a lot more expensive during the winter months .....You can clear the driveway first with a shovel and if the ground freezes and gets hard and slippery you can add fine grain sand or if you like to melt the ice you can add salt as well. If you mix sand and salt in a bucket you have a wary effective cocktail to make the driveway non slippery and ice will start to melt as well ....When all the ice and snow is gone you can simply collect the sand from your driveway to re use it again.
While it may slightly increase your electric bill, for those that are unable to clear their driveway of snow (whether physically able to or simply a lack of time to do so) this system gives them peace of mind that they can have an snow/ice-free driveway. As more and more people age in their homes here in the U.S., these types of systems make it easy to have a safe walkway to and from the car so that things like unloading groceries are less hazardous during the winter.
Thats true it will benefit people who is in no condition to clear their driveway on their own..And i guess you can regulate the heat with an thermostat to get a stable electric usage....
I'd almost consider it...but our driveway is a 1/4 mile long and would probably run us $50 a day to run it. Anyhow, still a cool idea.
That is definitely a huge project and electric heating may not be the most energy efficient for a driveway that large. For tire track coverage on a 1/4 mile long driveway, you'd be using 264.1 kWh an hour (the national average of $0.15 per kWh would come out to roughly $39.62 to run per hour.) There are also options with geothermal systems that we've heard have helped with much larger projects and uses the earth's natural radiant heat beneath the surface to help melt snow. Thanks for watching though!
The Electric bill is probably huge.
Only during a storm.
that electric bill at the end of the month. but good stuf ver informing and great job for the enginuity.
This is cool and all but how do you tame a horse on minecraft?
Thanks for the compliment, we think this project is pretty cool too! As for your other question, we'd recommend taking a look at this handy guide: www.digminecraft.com/getting_started/how_to_tame_horse.php
WarmlyYours thanks my dude
lmao he actually replied XD
Extra electricity bill costs during the winter unless you already installed a 20,000 USD solar system off-grid plus the cost of maintenance.
KC, our systems use 50 watts per square foot. And if you opt for tire track coverage, as these homeowners did, you cut down on electrical cost significantly. Compared to the cost of salt bags and back breaking shoveling, it can definitely be worth it in areas that have lower electrical costs.
I want to believe - it will work under so thick layer....
See for yourself in our TimeLapse video here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html
Every Canadian's dream
xSLWRTHNUx I live in Maine and wear sneakers to school and constantly slip on ice on my driveway it's awful.
Called a snowblower and the sun. Sun heats up asphalt and melts surrounding snow and ice pretty fast. This isn’t really needed here in Wisconsin
We actually have most of our customers in the northern Midwest, including Wisconsin. We know it's not for everyone, but for those that do not have the time or the physical capability to clear the snow themselves, these systems offer peace of mind and a safe walking area during winter. Thanks for watching!
HI, I wondering how about the water that froze after snow melted?
Will it be slippery? Or the desisgn of the road allow water to melt and flow to the side.
P/s: sorry for my bad grammar
This is actually a really good question that we see come up a lot with our snow melting products. All of our automatic controllers have Hold-on time feature after the initial warming up of the mats. This feature ensures that all the snow is melted from the surface, and also that the system continues to operate and evaporate the surface water without it refreezing.
I thought of this year's ago. Nice to see it implemented. Why can't cities, townships or state roads use this method? Thanks
I wonder if they are wired like christmas lights, wired in a series and when one goes out they all go out..
Actually if a spot in the cable fails or becomes damaged during installation, it is possible for the rest of the system to still function. But we do offer repair services should anything happen so you can make sure everything is in working order. Our team would only need to excavate the surface material in the spots where there is damage, make the repair and then patch that spot. So no need to tear up the entire area if there is anything that needs fixing. You can learn more about it here: www.warmlyyours.com/services/troubleshooting
Thanks for watching!
Looks like a great installation 👍
Good Job 👍🏽
This would be expensive to install because the final layer of paving has to be done by hand with shovels and no paving company wants to do this. Also, the surface would not be a cosistant thickness due to the absence of a paving machine screed board, and surface would cause a bouncy ride.
While a paving machine can't be used, there are many driveways that have been installed just like this with our snow melt system. We've have had no issues that compromise the functionality of the asphalt driveway with this type of installation, plus no more salting or shoveling!
Ask any paving company to quote 2 ways: paving with a machine or shovels, let me know how that turns out.😁
Well, it turns out that many customers are willing to pay a bit more for the type of install needed if it means no more shoveling or salting their driveway. Investing in a system that's installed correctly will pay off in the long run. 👍
I completely understand. Im just saying........
self regulating heater cable like this has been around for over 20 years nothing new can be used for anything from stopping pipes from freezing under lagging to being used in trays to fit under treads on metal fire escapes to stop them freezing
Do you test connections and lines prior to paving over? or any test prior to installation
Hi elementaleighteight, Yes, we always recommend that our products be tested before being installed/paved over/tiled over, etc. We provide an Ohms reading warranty card for our customers to verify their product is in good condition before being installed.
I've been wondering why I haven't seen people doing something like this before ever since I first saw videos of radiant floor heat coils being installed...
Great Idea guys :)
So, how far north is this still usable? I mean, when it’s a heavy snowfall and several degrees below freezing it’s bound to become pretty icy if the snow melts and freezes. Like leaving the compartment heater plugged in the car during a week of heavy snowfall with low low temperature
Our systems are able to run efficiently below freezing until it hits 17 degrees Fahrenheit. At this temperature, the system is not melting at the same rate as before, and becomes less economical to run. Most controls for our systems have a built-in feature to shut off around this temperature to ensure it is not using electricity inefficiently. We have customers who have installed this up in Canada near Toronto and still get plenty of use out of it throughout the Winter.
Great question and great answer.
Hey can you dig up my driveway I decided I want the whole thing. Not just tire tracks
Lets see this in the winter...No reflective material under the mat which mean 1/2 the heat will go down into the ground which is worthless. When it snows you will have to bare patches down your driveway. What voltage are the mats using ?
These systems are embedded in the surface material of your driveway (whether that's asphalt, concrete or in mortar under pavers). By doing this, the heat is evenly distributed throughout the surface and allows it to warm up consistently. Unless someone damages the heating elements of the system before installation, there will not be any patches of unmelted snow while the system is operating. The configuration in this installation was a unique type of tire track layout that the homeowners picked. These mats use 50 watts per square foot, you can learn more about our snow melt systems on our website: www.warmlyyours.com/products/snow-melting
It would have been nice to see what it looks like with snow everywhere except for the driveway.
We installed this system in the Fall of 2016, so there wasn't any snow yet. But we actually have a second video where you can see it in action here: ruclips.net/video/7wdpsTCYoXI/видео.html
I just pour diesel light it go inside eat and come out to melted snow.
you vin!
I do interlocking landscaping (Pavers) on driveways in the Toronto area. can you put brick or flagstone over this or do you have to have an asphalt driveway?
What about the little track leading to the road? I guess the owner is shovelling that bit!