School Didn't Work For This 1950s Juvenile Delinquent
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- The speaker is author Claude Brown. He wrote the classic novel Manchild In The Promised Land. It describes his life growing up in Harlem New York in the 1950s with street gangs, violence, drugs, and alcohol consumption.
His parents were sharecroppers in Georgia. They moved to New York City with the hope of a better life. Claude grew up in a gang environment which he loved as he describes in this video clip. He was actively involved in stealing, heavy alcohol alcohol consumption, gang wars.
He was a very juvenile delinquent kid and his parents sent him to relatives in South Carolina in the hopes of getting him out of that culture. He wrote that he missed the violence on the streets and he quickly found his way back to the gang world.
The New York State juvenile court system sent him to the famous Wiltwick School For Boys. We New Yorkers knew it as the place you went if you were really bad. He met a psychiatrist there who encouraged him to seek an education, but when he went back on the streets, he returned to the violent drug infested world he loved. He was shot in the stomach and almost died.
Deciding that he had to get out of that culture and desiring an education, he moved to New York’s Greenwich Village to get away from the gang culture that he loved. He was sad to see friends of his go down as a result of drugs and dangerous living.
He wrote the book Manchild In The Promised Land. Today, while the book is studied in many high schools as part of their English programs, it is also banned in others because of its “foul language.” I got to interview Claude in 1989 for my television series on the 1960s. Although the video of my interview was destroyed in a fire that destroyed much of my archives in 2008, I did did keep this interview which was given me by New York public television station WNET, who broadcast this incredible interview with Claude right after he wrote his book.
The interviewer is Norman Podhoretz. The interview took place in 1965, sometime after Claude Brown's book was released.
Claude Brown died in 2002 at 64 years old
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He speaks with a candor that makes his words seem contemporary, not dulled or mitigated by the passage of time as so many interviews from decades ago seem all these years later.
@@AlumniQuad he named his book manchild........
@@AlumniQuad relax judge roy bean
I think it’s also because back then people expressed themselves by explaining how they felt. Nowadays every second word is “like” . People would read and write back then, now people watch videos or listen to audio books, and just type with autocorrect.
We get it... you know uncommon words.. Nerd 🤓
My clothing line is named Candor
“It was perhaps the most meaningful experience available to us at the time” that’s a powerful statement
It’s very stupid, because he was making his neighborhood worse and as soon as he stopped his life got better. He said that other kids in the neighborhood weren’t interested in comiting crimes
It’s a bully mentality,
@@delmanglar you are very dense. It’s called nuance. He wasn’t claiming it to be the correct way of life. He was stating that at the time it was the most meaningful experience AVAILABLE at the time. For most youth that experience usually involves little league baseball or Boy Scouts. Inner city youth has never been afforded such experiences.
This is one of the most important things he said
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That was quite the interview. I appreciate that it wasn't in a stuffy studio with a limited time or apparent hardline script. Felt more like a refreshingly honest discussion with no filters.
An articulate and intelligent person being interviewed in earnest, he would not get this opportunity today. Thank you so kindly for this.
Umm... I think he has more opportunities today then back in the 1950s. but ok. whatever u say.
Today? The education system is fucked to the point that this young man's IQ would be 40 points lower, and he wouldn't be able to form a sentence without multiple parasite words. And I feel like everybody deep down knows this.
@@badballiance87 the school system is bad, but you'll get out what you put in. Many students do not put anything in (effort) and unsurprisingly, they get nothing out
@@itsallalie2 shy would an intelligent student put anything into a bad system as you describe
@@hayatefaith4273 she already explained - it might be bad, but it’s even worse if you just completely check-out. Many things in life are substandard. This isn’t a reason to fully abandon any attempts to put effort in.
Love this interview... amazing RIP CLAUDE BROWN... "MAN CHILD IN THE PROMISE LAND"
How'd he pass away?
@@eugenecaldwell9619 I believe a heart attack...about 15? Years ago. Or so.... he went into local politics... look on RUclips
It was a lung issue
My father gave me this book when I was in my early teens. It profoundly affected my life.
@@tripslft agreed...would make a good movie...that book is one of its kind
I have much respect for the man being interviewed. He’s brilliant. The interviewer, not so much. He’s constantly interrupting and cutting him off. Aside from all that I will be acquiring the book of the man being interviewed.
Very insightful, this articulated man spoke of how it was, said it plain and simple, he did not beat around the bush with his replies. The world of politics today, need to listen to his words, because the Gang Banger culture is still here and not going away.
If anything, it's even embraced as the only thing sometimes. 15 year olds saying fuck it and carrying a gun everywhere
reminds me of samuel l jackson
It will be as long as its more appealing than this slave shit they want us doing 9-5.
The problem is with today's gangbangers is that they can hardly string a proper sentence together...and they seem proud of it too.
Yes AMEN
This man has not illusioned himself with excuses or self-enforced lies. He’s 100% the truth. Much respect.
Everybody dnt have the abilities & or knowledge to make it out, like he sad, many never thought there was a way out & therefore just accepted the poverty they were purposely placed in. He also mentioned he grew up with a family which means alots. Also stated Harlem (just like every hood) needs genuine concern/care & proper funding like the constitution states "Seperate But Equal Communities!"
So yea he made no excuses just said what many of us have always said in a more calm & articulate way. Not once did he try to ignore or downplay the iniquity his ppl faced at the hands of the most wicked
@Roland Elie: Of course he has. His assertion that Illegitimacy hasn’t negatively impacted our community shows him being in absolute denial. This interview was done 70 years ago. And fast forward to now, Illegitimacy is still a major negative impact on families and the lack of a good upbringing for children within our community.
@@tonyvision4137 With respect to what you and this other gentleman are saying, my comment was in reference to him accepting full responsibility for the actions that he chose to commit and the lifestyle he chose to live, rather than blame some outward social pressure for his innate desire to commit acts of evil. Rather than attempt to dismiss responsibility (Its all we knew, I had no choice) or outright lie and try to get himself and others to believe it, he comes clean and tells the complete and unadulterated truth. “We we’re having fun, I WANTED to do those things”. I respect a man that can look himself in the mirror with truth.
If you haven’t, I’d also suggest buying his book and giving it a read. Absolutely phenomenal piece of history.
@@relie6476 Well as he stated when you deprive a ppl of everything & place them in poverty they are left with just their instincts, urges & nature. Basically they go into survival mode doing whatever they have to to obtain the status & economic freedom they desire..
Majority of hood guys crimes are financially related/motivated. As a troubled youth you're not yet humble nor wise enough to consider consequences, you pretty much just go head first into anything which often leads to our young guys demise before 25. This is all by design is all I'm saying, a lil opportunity would result in drastic changes but that's not what those in power seek & anytime we manage to obtain progress on our own it was destroyed, which discourages others from even trying.
What excuses do others use ??? He described the circumstances everyone else speaks up. Lack of power, lack of influence, poor education. He articulates well but it's the same story as the "excuses" you'll state
Claude Brown, author of "Man child In The Promised Land" I've read this book three times. Loved it. Years ago I wrote Spike Lee and asked him to turn Claude's biography into a movie. Never heard back from Spike Lee.
Doesn't fit Hollyweird agenda about black people rising above their negative circumstances to positively
there are much better black directors out there.
@@jasonwolfe3252 Spike is capable and he's one of the best out there.
@@jasonwolfe3252 true, he's the most visible and accessible but not the best
I agree. I contacted Spike Lee back in the mid-80s. A lot of these current black directors weren't in the industry back then. Some of them probably weren't even born yet.
Definitely gonna be buying his book whenever I get the chance. I'm not an avid reader, but I feel like I can take a way some lessons from Manchild in the Promised Land, even though my life was completely different from his. Rest in peace Claude Brown, I'm certain your book has inspired a decent amount of people to change the world for the better.
@@privateer0561 Gonna add some of his work to my wishlist too!
Manchild in the Promise Land is my favorite book of all time to this day. Incredible read.
There's an audiobook version. Just bought it!
I'm definitely going to buy it as well, just hoping it's still available to obtain.
@@TheSorcererAhrimanahsul Seems like it is, at least in my country. You'll probably be able to find it ;)
I'm pretty sure I read this book at my Catholic high school in 1969 or 1970. I think I need to read it again! I like how he spoke his mind in this interview. No BS.
Back then, even bangers were educated.
This man could be president nowadays 💯
His speech patterns, tone, and candor remind me so much of Patrice O'neal!
My Favorite comedian of all time , Rip 🙏
Ha now that you mention it he kinda does
That was my first thought as well.
I know exactly what you mean
Maybe Patrice if he'd decided to write books/be an activist instead of being a comedian and tv/radio commentator
Real conversation. No sugar coating or hidden agendas.
Wow I'm 67 years old and I read this book probably when I was about 8 years old I read it in bed and it was hard for me to put it down I was often tired when I got to school but I always wondered what happened to Claude Brown I heard he got an education and I don't know if it was a lawyer but it was a very very good book and if you haven't read it I highly recommend it. Thank you for your post don't stop.
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He passed away young 64 wow
nothin more real than a brother speakin the truth .. i really respect this mans honesty
I can relate to everything he said. I to experience the life of a gangster in the early 90's up until high school. My point of doing all of it was because it allowed me to be and feel free. I was stealing only to gain financial freedom so I can buy anything I want. It also taught me how the system works and I learned a lot about how the government and law rules through the courts and jail system. It was a great lesson learned and it made me the great individual I am now. I can spot a lier from a mile away. In 2007 when I use to work security I was able to receive mental visuals of who was going to try and start trouble before it happened. It also taught me how to respect others, how to be thankful for everything and to never blame anyone or anything and how to over come fear by taking responsibility for our own thoughts and actions.
I bet you wasn’t a gangster.
That’s deep - thanks for sharing your story.
You were a thief, so you can spot a liar… makes sense. There must be some better way to learn those lessons without stealing from other people
Thank you for this powerful message
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FANTASTIC! What an insightful perspective Claude Brown shared. However, it seemed as though the interviewer was continually attempting to 'paint him into a box' and it was disheartening to watch in that respect.
I understand what you are saying CR but I feel that the interviewer was speaking for and asking question that most people watching this program at that time felt. And I thought did Claude did a great job responding.
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@C R,
Remember, interviewers have a time slot and agenda__that's their position. 💖😺
His book “ manchild in the promise land” is one of the greatest books ever written
I will be reading it soon. Thx
Thanks for the plug
Where can I find it for free
Another articulate intelligent creative melanated being, & know that many are! Much respect & yes Claude's book is a must read!
Well if we could get the black women on our program instead of calling us "dusty" and promoting everybody BUT the black man, like the alphabet community and white feminists, and, most importantly, killing off our babies by having abortions like crazy, our community would get somewhere.
The interviewer is Norman Podhoretz. This interview took place in 1965, sometime after Claude Brown's book "Manchild in the Promised Land" was released.
Thank you Gerald.
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker ... You're welcome.
There is no longer reporters or investigators like this.... There is only readers of script.
They were much more blue collar/middle class than that of today who just follow their network's agenda.
Such a high threshold for ridiculous nonsense Americans seem to have.
The Cia been intertwined with the media since the 40s AT LEAST!!
Its just puppets spewing lies
Yes it is... They on RUclips tho
@Catman Inc. true that
We need Claude Sonny Boy today dude was definitely a beacon of hope just listening to him speak. 🖤
Claude Brown chose his life style as a teen bc of the lack of power structure in Harlem and then some. He took pride in sharing his point of view as to why he chose it and he spoke so transparently. Thank God he had a traumatic experience when experimenting with drugs and lead him to think he would die bc that prevented him from becoming a slave to the habit. We are fortunate to have better opportunities than our past loved ones did and make better choices. Sadly tho, drugs and violence will never go away but in the end, We can only educate and pray we see less damaged souls. 🙏🏽 There is always a way out of any bad situation. ALWAYS!
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Yes AMEN
I like it when Claude begins losing his patience with Norman; his energy is contagious.
The Way this young man speaks is Well Beyond His Age. It would have been an honor to know this man in life and conversate with. Thank You Mr Hoffman for sharing this interview with us.
It's not really beyond his age. Our generation just got dumber
Even the gang bangers back then were more articulate than today
Huh? He wasn't a gang banger wtf
@@lefty206yes he was he said himself he was a gang member and he liked it
Wow in the 1950s the black family had a father in the home 80% and even a gang banger spoke proper English, 70 years later there are only 20% of fathers in the home and speaking broken English is the norm.... I'll never forget when I was about 11 years old my best friend who was black and I used to love going to his house to eat , his mother used to make the best House burgers with the Wonder bread, the first time I went in there trying to copy the streets and speak ghetto his black mom stopped me right at my tracks and said " no honey in this household we speak proper English" I never tried speaking that way again....
Bill Cosby spoke about this at a h.b.c. and was criticized heavily for it.
@@markgothard7158 the thing is, we have our own twist on everything. Especially something passed down from a slave master !! So we speak it how we want nowadays
@@versatileduplicity9313 sure thing man
also in the 1950s the term (BLACK on BLACK Crime) didnt exist!! ...meaning his gang enemies was a gang called "Klu Klux Klan"
AAVE (African American vernacular English) is considered a real dialect of English…. Hell, I hear more and more white people tryna talk like black folks all the time. Stop talking out of your ass, leave that “niggas can’t even talk right” shit in the past where it belongs. Language isn’t a monolithic thing that happens over night…. It forms through a variety of different factors. Considering that we weren’t legally allowed to be taught to read and write until maybe 120 years ago (which in the context of history is fucking no Time at all), of fucking course the way we speak English is different.
Your works are amazing Mr. Hoffman!!! Historical gems.
Claude Brown, a great writer and truth teller. Thanks for this interview. My very first time seeing him.
What a bright, articulate, witty man.
What an idiot...who is he? How did he get an interview? Who is HE to say what the people need or want?
Micro-aggression
There goes the articulate comment. Haha. I knew it.
@@daguywhoknowz2638 Okay, so because he is black calling him articulate is unacceptable?
The title is a bit misleading, it doesn't state that he's now a published author. It states he's a delinquent, so complimenting his wittiness should be taken as a simple compliment.
I remember being so poor and hungry one time that I grabbed a kitchen knife and walked towards a gas station in Summerville S.C. I was going to rob that gas station to get money to help my family. A vision of my mother visiting me in jail and weeping made me turn around. So yes, your circumstances can make you do some irrational things if you don't think it over. For those that never had to go months without the bare necessities you have no right to judge the actions of those who do.
Why didn’t you use the knife to instead filet a fish/squirrel/rabbit/bird/hog/deer?
@@AlexanderDivineEmcee he asking a legit question
@@AlexanderDivineEmcee oh 😂 my bad
Wow! I read Claude Brown's Manchild in the Promised Land when in highschool. It was not on our reading list🥴. Here it fifty plus years later and I finally see him in person and an interview. What a treat!
Same and same 🥴
THANKS FOR THE INFO I WAS WONDERING WHO THIS BROTHER WAS AND SHAME BC I DIDN'T KNOW B4 I READ YOUR COMMENT😣BUT I KNOW NOW AND YES IT IS POWER ALL IN HIM MUCH RESPECT TO THIS MAN😘
He looks different than I pictured him.
See how intelligent and articulate this brother was back in the 50s? For that time period, he was way ahead of his time. Too bad our road veered away from his road as time progressed.
Can you imagine an interview like this being done today? Can you think of a true journalist that would conduct such an interview, asking probing questions and allowing the interviewee to completely answer them? Can you imagine an articulate, honest interviewee discussing such topics in such depth without fear of repercussion from stating his personal assessment of the world as it is?
I hope the media can return to this kind of work in the future. I am tired of polemicism from all sides, which is all we seem to get anymore.
This interviewer is not a good listener.
There are interviews like this. The interviewers dont have big names and are black.
Only a RUclipsr/independent person would do it and they would be demonized by the "real journalists"
@@greeneti he's fine. It's good for an interviewer doing interviews like this to push for answers on hard questions and address things that the listeners will be looking for. In fact, we are missing that in most interviews like this today.
the things our black ppl get on camera n say for attention is crazy, i don’t think we understand what perception is
Wow the way he is articulating his experiences is refreshing and inspiring.
Thank You for posting this😇
Why he sounds like a young Patrice O’Neal
70 years later and it's gotten even worse when it comes to fatherless kids. Kinda crazy that the trend started in the 50s or was it even earlier?
60s mainly in the south fueled by government subsidized and profitized drug addiction by the cia
@@redlight3932 Yeah but it's everywhere now. I don't think people even take marriage and having a family seriously nowadays
@@furtim1 because anybody that can articulate them self or talk "intelligent" is considered brilliant because we have some idiots in this country
@@furtim1 what is the rate for all races? you can't state singular statistics like this without context
- there is a general decrease in marriages or children born within them in society across all races in 2022
- there is less stigma in the west at least surrounding children born out of wedlock
Don't talk about the symptoms, talk about the cause.
He was ahead of his time.
We all know the cause but admitting the cause out loud puts responsibility on the delinquent and not the person that current blame is being laid upon. So the true cause will never really be talked about until the people themselves get so fed up with the state they are in realize they can be the only person responsible to change it. No amount of blame or guilt or apologies or reparation will ever change the situation. Only the people demanding change can usher in that change within themselves
He wasn't ahead, he was present. The plight of African Americans has been a case-study in institutional and perpetuated amnesia. To study, analyse, denigrate, and forget. What he said was relevant today because nothing substantial has been changed to make it not so.
@@furtim1 Capitalism begins with the presumption of the nebulous "demand." In fact, that is the genesis for the "myth of currency" for Smith and other founding capitalist thinkers - in place of direct bartering - not Marxism, not Marx's vision of the ideal political economy: communism; Marxism begins with the presumption of emancipation. At no point does it ever mention government. It is exclusively concerned with emancipation.
Under capitalism, the holder of a deed demands the surplus value generated by the labor of the worker. The shareholder in turn demands a portion of this surplus value from the owner of the deed. Under capitalism, everything is reducible to transactional demands; the laborer provides value, the deed holder provides the means for the production of value, and the shareholder provides initial capital, which is generally hoarded surplus value. Capitalism also maintains feudal-class relations by demanding that the deed holder receive the lion share of this surplus value or all of it, at the expense of the laborer's own wellbeing, performance, future. Capitalism has no ethos, or conscience. The market prevails over all life, and destinies. It predetermines generations of human beings while it prepares for immediate fiscal whims, with no moral or ethical foresight. Capitalism put children in coal mines, it put slaves on boats, and it put natives in chains. It put entire countries, cultures, peoples to ruin through physical erasure or debt servitude, and it has irreversibly made the planet less hospitable for human existence.
Your response is typical and quite frankly, an expectedly ignorant characterization of Marxism. Marxism in the context of race relations, which is really a subset of material class relations, is always described by this regurgitated agitprop, as "demanding wealth and power" as if capitalism does not rely on a specific hierarchy of the distribution of wealth and power, or permanent wage slavery. And given that you more than certainly haven't read Das Capital in reductively equating wealth and power with what is actually freedom, respect and equality, there is no disagreement to resolve for the simple fact that you are not even talking about anything in reality.
To sit here and describe Claude's critique, in an age absent of civil rights for African Americans, absent of opportunity, absent of basic necessities and a humane standard of living, in an era that saw historic levels of poverty for African Americans, as "petulant whining" you have to be a despicable human being, nearly-sociopathic in audacity to define anything in this video as such. The poverty rate for blacks is still seeing historic levels in the 21st century; inequality still persists and persists intentionally under capitalism.
@@zasterheffor not ahead in that he talked about it, that was observing what was already happening. But he was ahead in how he described things: for instanced the unmarried parents being a symptom and he wanted to talk about the cause. You can see on the interviewers face that it was a new way of thinking that he couldn't quite grasp. The interviewer just wanted to keep looking at the morally shocking aspects of life in Harlem and not seek the socio economic racism that was the cause. Not so much a plight, as a blight limiting the futures of the African American people in Harlem at that time.
@@wordzmyth And that is exactly what I was referring to, friend.
The analysis he provided was already established then by other black intellectuals, activists, preachers, and authors; they were proposals known by white liberals and politicians. They sought the remission of denied employment rights, civil rights, civil liberties, and voting rights. And it was the institution of government that granted such things. They could not take it by force.
The March on Washington in the 60s wasn't ONLY for freedom, it was for jobs. The 1950s, the period Claude was alive were literally the worst in American history in terms of joblessness and poverty. It disgusts me that there still exist people who have the audacity to call such requests, TO WORK AND LIVE EQUALLY, as petulant whining. Humanity has a very long journey ahead of it.
so sad that you lost the 89 interview
he is fascinating
He's running laps around the reporter too 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
No, he's not. He's answering the journalist's questions.
@@liamsandal6360 👍🏻
he doing the actual reporting
@@liamsandal6360watching this black man talk circles around pale face made you feel some type of way didn't it?
@@AshleyGrier-f3o Meh. You hate Whites.
Thank you Claude (Sonny),Jah is with us ....luv u brother ....RIP
This dude actually sound like Tupac that it’s scary we still going through these vices in America that it had become a full blown nightmare
This is an author by the name of Claude Brown. He wrote a book called ( a man child in the promised land ) among other great novels.
Read my description please.
I’m not sure where they hid this video but I’m glad it came across . Also should be shown in schools history as examples of previous mind states and conditions of black history . Respectfully
This is historical footage in American literary history. Dope work! Legendary book "Manchild in the promised land"! Rest in Power to Mr. Claude Brown. What an articulate and candid writer and speaker. #HARLEM
Honestly an enlightening channel. Of online celebrities you are one I would love to sit down and discuss things over breakfast, whiskey, both, or anything in between. You sir, are a legend. I wish I coulda shown my grandpa who was near 80 at the time of his death just about a month ago, maybe having seen how I got my perspective we may have argued less and talked more, but that's in the past now. I have no words other than a simple thanks for showing the world all these capsules of past society, which you of anyone has realized has changed very much, and this has definitely helped me as a up and coming zoomer (gen z) to understand the views of my grandparents. What a gem of a channel and what a g of a creator, from the community posts to the videos, all insightful and delivered well. Also the "drugs gave substance" is funny to hear, punny if you will.
Man child in the Promised Land was a powerful book. R.I.P. Claude Brown.
Ppl back in the day used to be human and were capable of communicating at a human level of intellect. In this generation we live in a world full of zombies, demons and ghouls. True story
I remember this book I lost in the bus on my way to work when I fell asleep,it's my first time watching this.
The clarity of this man’s communication is incredible
Thank you so much for sharing this. I added Claude's book to my wishlist, I really want to read that now!
“We’ll, let’s talk about drugs…” naturally a pivoting point of a white reporter avoiding a conversation about culture in favor of an artificially inserted distraction.
Wow. A racist liberal in the flesh.
I read his book when I was in junior high in the 1970s. Brown went on to graduate from law school and became a lawyer. That inspired me to stop being a knucklehead after I finished high school I went to college and law school.
Mr. Claude Brown was A VERY, VERY WISE MAN, who spoke nothing but the truth.
@@furtim1 Good for you.
It's really amazing to watch these incredible documents to history. This looks like it was filmed on video tape - but in 1965? Wow.
Love how the journalist attempted to politicize the entire conversation and this young man wasn't having any of it.
The journalists asking the questions were speaking for many Americans who had similar questions. He wasn't asking for personal reasons. He was making a television program in which the viewer stays with the program if the journalist asked questions that the viewer would like to hear answers to.
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No, you are speaking of journalists of today, Hoffman was the opposite of that....if that's how you heard it, might want to watch it again...
This interviewer is so focused on the supposed pathology of Black people and completely refuses to engage with what Claude is saying about the power structure and systemic oppression. Not much has changed in the minds of Normans since.
@@privateer0561 😂😭💀💀💀
Cringe. Please take responsibility for yourself
Seriously..so busy trying to run a narrative that I'm not even sure he was listening
@@penalty5992 Thanks for proving my point, Norman 👍🏾
@@MariaCJ Keep crying, most coddled one
It blew my mind when he said his name out loud ~3 minutes in and I clicked the description to realize that this “juvenile delinquent” was in fact the illustrious author of one of my favorite memoirs of all time! It breaks my heart, David, to think about the enormous cultural value that was destroyed by the fire that burned up your Claude Brown interview and so many others in 2008. It’s also sad that we never got to see the “Congressman Claude Brown” that they both said they hoped he would become at the end of the video, but considering how risqué his book was (or at least was to me in high school-and as another commenter said, it was most certainly not assigned reading 🥴) with all the depictions of kids using heroin and so forth, I can’t say that I’m surprised.
Kevin. Indeed much was lost because what he was like about 49 years old when I interviewed him was so much more wise and thoughtful about the people he had come from and the culture he had come from. He took responsibility for certain things that have occurred and felt that his generation and that he had failed his people in some very important ways. It was an important interview and I am sad that it is lost.
David Hoffman filmmaker
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker I can’t think of the author name but an author had wrote a book called manchild revisited. It never came out. He went and hung with Claude and gave an updated version of his book.
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker hate these type of interviewers, no real intent on helping these people bet he never published this to Congress or the government just wanting to know how blacks live. The interviewer jumped topics selfishly, asked if "MLK wanted to be white?" 😂😂 Racist Mf stay out black communities!
I actually got to meet Mr Brown
He signed my copy of Manchild in the promise land
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker David can you do a video telling what you can remember by chance from the lost interview? This man was way ahead of his time in his thinking and I so wish I could see the 49 year old version of him.
♡♡Much Respect He Made Such Logical Sense to Me I couldn't Understand why Others Didn't see how it All Added Up...
open discussion that became passionate at times but remained respectful. This is what we need to bring back today!
How WHN MLK, Malcom x and many many more of my kind and our other colors who was dwn with the brothers (JFK)was brutally wht?
Yes, let's talk about the causes, not the symptoms, which the interviewer keeps insisting on. The cause is the lack of power; power distribution; but power isn't politics in the Capitalism system. Its money. They're both wrong, but only Brown was on the right track.
Thank you for showing this interview. You really have a lot of interesting content. Very smart of you.👍. 🇺🇲🙋
Could you imagine if all Gang Members were this intelligent....
a hoodlum in the 50s would be considered a goofy nerd now of days
Speaks better than a Rhodes scholar today. Man we have nose dived as a country.
The ravages of poverty, blackness, inner city slums, ghetto concrete environs, missing absent educational structure, non-working plumbing, missing transportation, despair, nothingness, fractured families.
Worse than scary.
A crushing nightmare that one has to intellectually conquer.
You are so right also racial racist tension you have to be built to keep going instead of folding that why I see use as strong 💪🏾
No tv's or utilities you got to entertain yourself you got to hit the streets
Heavy Gratitude
boy am i glad this poor kid finally got a chance to educate himself. it helped him defend illegitimacy and heroin use so eloquently.
His book Manchild was good. As well as The Education of Sonny Carson Movie are two I remember
What a great interview. I have to re-visit "Manchild" in light of this discussion.
Amazing. I explain to my kids basically the same - be a kid while you are a kid but if you want to, as this young gentleman put it so well, 'i you want to advance socially and economically' you have to move towards that direction, change your life to fit your new goals and let go of the things and people that might hold you back.
I read his book when I was in high school one of best books I have ever read, it really got me into reading, I'm so happy to see this video video and to Claude Brown ,classic all the way
I know one thing. This man is very intelligent and articulate. He could have been anything he wanted to be.
He was exactly who wanted to be lol
Wow...I remember reading his book back in 1980 at 16 yrs old. It remains one of my favorite books till this day. While reading it I felt as though I was right there in it. The book definitely inspired and affected me greatly. RIP...Manchild in the Promised Land.
Claude Brown was very clear in his understanding of the life he lived. The New York experience of those years was quite different from the West Coast in many ways…but there were also deep similarities.
All young people were questioning everything, and sometimes what brought us together was our youth, and the desire for positive change. We didn’t want to maintain the racial divide of the previous generations.
We didn’t really understand the Gang system and it’s violence, whether the Black Gang Societies, or the White Biker Gangs, but there was a kind of permeable edge where we shared enough to get along and be supportive of each other.
There were young black voices asking different questions than their Parent’s generation even thought to ask, yet still respecting what those generations had done to change the accepted dialogue…but there was an impatience and violence in their method.
Claude was in the centre of that big change, and few have expressed as clearly what it was to experience that era of transformation from the black ghetto perspective than he has.
Thank you for sharing this interview with us David, it brought back memories and conversations from my own time of questioning and rebellion. The loss of so much of your archive was awful, and I’m grateful you are sharing what you still have and could recover…they are beyond price.🖤🇨🇦
Still is!
Interesting from someone born in the '60, now I understand the generations before me don't BS around and straightforward and no nonsense. Kudos to you 👏
I read Claude Brown’s Manchild in the Promised Land - an inner-city Catcher in the Rye - as a teenager in 1970, loved it and never forgot it. Brown should’ve been a prominent media voice of the time, along the same lines as James Baldwin. He was extremely articulate, had a lot of ideas and seemed comfortable on camera. I wish we’d heard more from him.
Eloquent man. Shows how much times have changed.
I read Claude Brown's book "Man Child of the Promise Land". His episodic literary account of childhood in Harlem, NY is one, wild informative read that ultimately leads to triumph for Claude Brown.
This Brother, is Amazing🔥🔥🔥
This hit me so hard because a good friend of mine gave this book over 18 years ago during highschool. She told me it was a very good book and i never took notice to it till a few years ago 2018 when i started reading but never finished. Fast forward today and this video popped up on my timeline and i had no idea until i read the discription that this was an interview of the author of The Manchild book. So shocking
I read this book when I was 12 yrs old. I never forgot it.
You never cease to interest me. History Love it David. Thanks again and again. ❤️
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This is a gem right here.
Who is David Hoffman? To the blind, he is the light. To the hungry, he is the bread. To the sick, he is the cure. To the lonely, he is the company. To the sad, he is the joy. To the prisoner, he is the freedom. For me, he is everything.
Beautiful
@@anarodriguez6601 Absolutely Agree ♡
Beautiful Humans
Did he pay you for this comment? Lol
To the documentary afficiando he is the underrated legend.
Lebrow: He is just an ordinary guy living a fairly decent independent life still healthy and still creative. That's all. But I thank you for the kindness of your words.
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I don't know if you know this or not Mr. Hoffman but, you be droppin' some "Bangers". 😎🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 😅 For real though - Excellent. I'm learning a lot from watching your posts, and I'm encouraged by it. I enjoy all of it - including these types of videos. Hopefully, people will see Truth in them, focus on the progress we've made, and build on it (Together).
same, interesting stuff
Very well-spoken man.
Wow I remember reading his book when i was in elementary school. My older brother had it and i read his book Manchild in the Promised Land, and Piri Thomas Down These Mean Streets. It amazes me that all he had to do was move to the village and it kept him out of trouble. Shows how people just stay in their community and don't stray outside. I knew guys who never left the projects untill they went to prison.
So black people were always like this long before I was born? Well no duh there's racism..or was it just smack talk? But where exactly do you draw the line?
This is fuckn Great his mind the way he talks there's more 2it but in that atmosphere he was basically following a tradition. This is what u call keepn it real
Wow, what a smart, articulate young man. I'm not familiar with his literature, but found this interview enlightening. I enjoyed hearing his response about illegitimacy in their communities. I like how he cuts through the bull of reporting statistics and psychologists' opinions from a distance.
How does it feel having two dads?
That was the dumbest part… Relating iligimate kids with racial injustice and stating that in has nothing to do with the crime surge. And saying that drugs didn’t contribute to violence in the hood. But the best part is when he said that many kids didn’t want to do crimes, but he did it because it was fun and it gave him status. But he was smart enough to stop doing crimes at 16 and decided that writing books is a better lifestyle
This guy's book needs to be a movie! Ledgendary!!!!!!
I'm 64, but I never heard of this young man, being from Detroit-but I'm glad to hear he "saw the light" and began to(and did indeed)turn his life around-wish the same could be said for so many more of our youth!
I also like what this brother said about the fact that Black people DID NOT want to INTEGRATE-nor was it an overly consuming concern, the way some folks would have us to believe it was( I was a child then when this interview occurred[1965]-and was not aware of the integrationist agenda taking place then)-although, realistically speaking, nowadays, even as it has been since I can remember, back in the 1960s, it was-and still is, an agenda for my people to escape the hellish conditions they face in the inner cities-not so much because they want to be around whites, but because the lifestyle escape from the inner cities is supposed to provide rather, is the incentive. 7-29-22.
Damn that's what gang bangers used to sound like? 😳
Now we're lucky to have politicians even half as articulate
lol..make u wonder who the true gangbanger iz yo
When gangbangers were superbly intelligent and articulate. Dressed nicely, too, with those cooool glasses. Great video!
It just seems so odd. It’s almost comical
The interviewer is not tracking with where this very intelligent and articulate young man is coming from. The interviewer is asleep. The young man is wide awake.
Manchild in the Promised land
A lot of the things he discussed have been tried and didn't fix the issues. Representation in government just gave him a friendly face to screw over his community.
@@furtim1 .. So when you don’t HAVE POWER to structure the basics and keep intact the “basic “ unit of a nation= the family. When your peoples are bread like live stock to keep commerce running. Then some one asks you about illegitimacy. ?