M*A*S*H Winchester loooses his temper with a bureaucrat over abandoned baby
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The verb is “loses” not “looses”.
What episode is this?
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@Gordon wtf are you smoking?!
once again the alarithim
Unlike Frank, Charles wasn't a bad person. He had a shield of arrogance, but he was a superior surgeon and a good-hearted individual. At worst, he was used to being removed from the suffering of the world, but that didn't mean he didn't care about it. See the Christmas episode where he recounts a family tradition of giving candy and toys to the poor, but realizes that the value of the candy would provide a month's worth of staple foods for starving orphans.
I believe Klinger came in at the end bringing him a plate from Anonymous donors. It was one a very few times he called him Max.
He was also a better foil for Hawkeye and BJ, because he could be their friend and ally when the circumstances demanded it (such as above), while still being able to invite laughter from the audience.
@@TheEvilChipmunk
Yes. And as it turned into the _Alan Alda show_ Winchester was badly needed for balance. Hawkeye became almost unbearable later on
@@donarthiazi2443
Meh... I'm not a Hawkeye hater. I do think that Winchester (as a character), helped the show shift into a more serious tone in later seasons (which, again, I get that people's "milage" may vary on the later seasons). A tone which wouldn't have worked as well with Frank Burns as a character.
Frank wasnt really a bad guy though! He tried many times to be decent. We also found out,franks dad severely abused him as a child. To Wich trapper actually made fun of him for. They also used to talk shit to him and play jokes on him during surgery! If he was as bad as they say,don't you think they'd lay off him in the O.R. so he could focus all his energy on the patients, rather than their crap?! Hawkeye and trapper picked on frank and bullied him a lot! How about the time,Frank thought natives were burying a bomb?! He went out there himself to find it! I'd say that was pretty damn brave! It turned out to be a kimchee pot! But as far as Frank knew,he was risking his life for the others! And they just made fun of him for it. He dished it out,but he also took a lot! And a lot that was uncalled for!
"you smarmy bureaucratic microbe" If ever there was a classic Winchester line, this is it!
That got me too! Insult perfection!
Gorgeous 😍
That line ought to be on loop in every seething cesspit of beaurocracy that exists....and turn it up to 10 so that they are continually reminded that THEY are supposed to serve the people.
No lie!!
I loved how he grabbed the phone when it rang and told them to eat out. This was after that heartless arrogant bureaucrat had Winchester mad enough to lay a beatdown on him.
Winchester may have been stuffy and arrogant on the outside but, inside, he had a heart of gold.
I suspect on some level it always came back to his sister Honoria. Speaking out for a girl facing a life of suffering brought to mind a childhood growing up while standing up for a younger with a speech impediment. Even with all that ego, it's hard not to be a decent person after such a long track record behaving as someone's champion, and the casual disregard displayed was a step too far
@@EditDeath B-B-But Honoria o-o-only had a a a stut-stuttering ppproblem
@@donarthiazi2443 Yes, and children are cruel, as are people in high society. High society children? Odds are Charles developed his wit because he wasn't allowed to bust heads
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Good point. You're probably right.
@@EditDeath not just her, but his entire family. Like the boxing day, or Christmas episode I forget which. Where you find out every year his family gives a gift box to someone in need, and they go out of their way to remain anonymous. Everyone in camp thought he was greedy and he could have easily taken credit for what he did but it wouldn't mean as much if they did it for the credit.
Charles was an enigmatic and brilliant replacement for Frank. His warm humanity was on display. On so many occasions - his stuttering sister and the injured soldier, his secret Santa gifts swearing Klinger to secrecy, his grief at the death of the musician. He was one of my favorite characters.
I love that he got revenge on Hawkeye and Bj for their pranks. Something Frank would never do
My favorite was the episode with William Katt as the concert-pianist-turned-soldier who lost the full usage of one hand in combat. Winchester scrounges up every piano-one-hand piece there is and takes them back to Katt, and explains why Katt should become a music teacher, in words that cover my musical efforts well, that he had trained on the piano for years, but "I could play all the notes, but I could not make the music."
One of the things MASH did really well not replace the characters with suitable replacements, rather than like for like
@@WilfBond55 Actually a Private Sheridan, played by James Stephens.
I think they overplayed his pomp a little at first. Once they started to develope him a little he became much funnier and way more interesting as a character.
From Winchester’s first episode
“Colonel, I think you should know my father knows Harry Truman. He doesn’t like him, but he knows him”
Colonel : "Fine, you have dad call Harry, Harry can call me and maybe we'll work something out...."
@@johnfromvirginia3787”…in the mean time VAMOOSE!”
Vamoosing……
@@johnfromvirginia3787 “But know this: you can cut my off from the civilized world. You can incarcerate me with two moronic cellmates. You can torture me with your thrice daily swill, but you cannot break the spirit of a Winchester. My voice shall be heard from this wilderness, and I shall be delivered from this vetted and festering sewer!”
@@agentmjl7 I believe it is "Fetid and festering sewer!"
Let's not forget that it was Charles who first saw the girl laying outside the tent in the mud, who gently picked her up and brought her inside. That alone shows us how deeply the man cared about her (about children in general), how little he judged the poor mother who had to abandon her baby, and how far he was willing to go to make sure the baby girl doesn't have to face discrimination or even death from the moment she was born.
Arguably, Charles had the greatest emotional stake in the whole sad affair.
I am fuzzy when it comes to this show, but now I am curious… what happened to the girl in wuestion? Did they find a way?
Yes, spoilers please! What ultimately happened to the little girl (and why was she in imminent danger of facing discrimination)?
@@rowanaforrest9792if I recall correctly, she was in danger because she was biracial. Father Mulcahy hooked her up with a monastery. They placed her in a bin and the nuns took her.
@@lanetower3411 Thank you! That doesn't sound like the best ending for her (that would be being with her parents), but not a bad ending. Perhaps eventually the nuns would find a way to reunite her with her parents, or at least one of them. She wouldn't grow up on the streets, thank heavens.
Winchester always came through when it really mattered. The baby, the kid who stuttered, even Margaret got to see a glimpse of the man behind the bank account. One of my all time favorite TV characters for sure.
the kid who stuttered is one of my fave eps.
Remember the Christmas episode where he gave the candy to the orphanage? And I definitely agree with you.
@@suzycreamcheesez4371 With the bullying CO of whom Charles made very short work. And the pianist who lost the use of his right arm.
@@smwca123 yes but the kid who stuttered is my fave. as I stated.
Nothing against Mr. Larry Linville, but at times, his character, Major Frank Burns, seemed to drag the show down. At least, in my opinion. Major Winchester was someone that, when you least expected it, could show such kindness, that it'd really throw you!
I always loved the episode in which Winchester supported and encouraged the officer with the stuttering problem. Then, at the end, you learn that the sister he loves and deeply respects deals with stuttering as well. He’s a shining example that high class does not always equate a disconnect with humanity.
And told off the kid's CO, a Class A jerk.
his Parents raised him well. They insist in every Christmas to do Charity, anonymously. I had a friend who had a daughter who went to San Francisco Her coworkers were ivy league rich kids I told him I call them Frasiers, because they do charity to show they are superior and don't really care about the cause.
Humanity, decency and compassion are among the qualities that define ‘high class’. Many of those who think themselves of a higher class are conspicuous in that they lack of those qualities.
Never mistake WInchester's patience for unwillingness to fight. He prefers to do the right thing the civilized way, but he'll do the right thing whatever happens.
"Beware the wrath of a patient man." :)
He also knows how to box and wrestle
"Smarmy bureaucratic microbe" definitely became part of my vocabulary. Well done, Charles.
David Ogden Stiers was a brilliant actor. Excellent and bold casting decision to pit him against Hawkeye and B.J. And if you’re not a fan of Star Trek - you might have missed an unforgettable performance on TNG where he played a scientist torn between using his lifetime of knowledge to save his dying planet and tradition that demanded he end his life at 60. R.I.P. sir.
He also had a great guest appearance on an episode of Frasier, playing an old friend of Frasier's mother.
That episode was titled "Half a Life". And yes, it is must-see TV.
One of my favorite TNG episode. He and Majel Barrett were great together.
He was also on Stargate Atlantis
Yes he was scary as the replicater leader. Loved him in half life to❤❤@@michaelsublet3283
This one brought tears to My Eyes.
Boston Snob, and Harvard Educated Elite, Charles showing that underneath that Ultra Well Bred Exterior He Has a Heart of Pure Gold.
The one that really still gets to Me The Most about Charles Winchester?
From the Final Episode.
Where he teaches a group of Korean Musicians to play Mozart. Then, after all his efforts couldn't make them play it correctly, as they're being evacuated for their own safety?
As they're being driven away, they strike up the tune and Play it Perfectly.
A short time later, there's the "Incoming Choppers" announcement over the PA System.
That's when Charles learns that the Truck carrying the Korean Musicians was hit, and only one of them survived.
Charles then goes into his tent, puts on the record that he used to teach them, listens to it for a moment..... Smashes it and Breaks Down.
Lord. Just writing about that scene is Making Me Cry My Eyes out.
He did his best to preserve himself through the entire war. Only to have it ultimately ruin a piece of fine music forever. It's very tragic.
And admit at the last supper that music, once an escape from the horror of war, would now be a reminder.
I Cry My Eyes Too When I See You Putting Capital Letter At The Beginning Of Every Second Word.
@@matix676 right?
The episode where Major Winchester helped the young soldier that stuttered, and we later learned that his sister also had the same handicap was also really well done. He really was a softie underneath all that Boston Brahman snobbery 👍
Noblesse Oblige - the idea that someone with power and influence should use their social position to help other people. You see it a lot with Charles. He always had the idea in theory, but it took seeing first hand what real poverty, deprivation and the front line horrors of war to truly understand what it meant.
Winnie was one of the guys who believed in true nobility and that those of noble birth should be representatives of noble deeds and actions. He held that as truth even though he was smug and contemptable quite often.
The best part of the show seeing that Americans don’t understand what real poverty is…..
@@Rick_Sanchez_C137_ people have no clue but they have no idea what a civil war does either or what a dictatorship works. But they want these things they only understand that these things happen to other people and not them. One of the mostbrevolutionary aspects of this show was its interest in not only showcasing other cultures but often our attitudes towards them as well.
...and completely traveling to another country, apparently. Is that a testament to how effectively the USA hides its marginalized populations from those with power?
@@rickdavis32 My favourite was when he gave chocolates to the orphanage and got upset it was sold until he realised the amount of proper food it would buy and the far better impact it would have on the children.
the part that should NOT be ignored in this scene is that this US government policy towards orphaned Amerasian kids WAS real, and it was implemented both in Korea and Vietnam.
these kids, by virtue of their fathers being Americans, ARE Americans themselves. and yet were denied repatriation to america.
In this same episode they point out how all the other governments give citizenship and succour to the children of their soldiers. USA has a lot of PR but not much substance.
@@lenawagenfuehr53 We see that same attitude again this year with the sudden last minute reversal of support for the PACT act. ruclips.net/video/YRiHnc0B3VY/видео.html
There's a picture of an Asian girl fathered by an American in Stanley Karnow's book on Vietnam. The picture of her was taken after the war she was forced to sell cigarettes on the streets. The caption in the picture explained that eventually Vietnam allowed children with American fathers to immigrate to the U.S.
@@erichaynes7502 eventually *America* allowed children with American fathers to immigrate to the US. Vietnam never had any such restrictions on emigrating to the US.
Thank you for pointing this out. I'm tired of people demonizing the US without acknowledging the course corrections and good that it has done. The US is a young country that gained a tremendous amount of power in a relatively short amount of time. Every other super power in world history has committed atrocities to the point that the US is downright benevolent by comparison. @madeconomist458
One of the qualities, I am glad they wrote in, that made Charles such a good character is his care for children. Let us not forget the Christmas episode.
an all tine great episode. so touching. we all need to watch it again. it;s what christmas means.
I was thinking the same think myself.
Charles was pretty well rounded. He had his Sister, and that whole relationship with Radar and the "Eye-Dear" their parents should meet after the War
that scene at the end with Max................................oh, i soooooo agree
it is impropper to give children desert that has had no dinner........
Charles' deep cobalt blue blood probably destined him to become a Harvard doctor. But as this and numerous other episodes showed, in his heart he had a passion for advocacy and an unwavering sense of justice. Probably my favorite character on the show.
I love the way Charles keeps telling Hawkeye to “Let me handle this “ because Hawkeye is too hotheaded… and then Hawkeye has to grab Charles to keep him from punching out the pen pusher.
When a man like Charles loses his cool you know you've fucked up because he would do his upmost best to remain calm and civil and find a way to fix a issue without the need for shouting or threats of violence.
So when he get angry you know that he's come to terms with your lack of understanding and pigheadedness and sees the use of threats and violence the only logical option.
You should never anger a person who is willing to goto great lengths to solve a problem peacefully.
@@DarkLordDiablos amen
Only note- Hawkeye should've just sat there and let Charles "handle it" within some inches of "its" life...
Push someone that far and all hell will break lose
That smarmy, pipe-smoking paper pusher would have pissed off Judith Martin (Miss Manners).
"Swarmy bureaucratic microbe!" I've never heard such a sophisticated way of calling someone a 'smug anally-retentive asshole' before.
I am sure this was lost on me watching as a kid, but the subtlety in David Ogden Stiers' portrayal of Major Winchester in this scene and the writing of the lines is masterful. This is why almost forty years after the final episode, this series still has such capacity to make us laugh and cry, often in the same episode.
Not just that, MASH became a cross-culture phenomenon. I'm Czech. When MASH was made, it was illegal to even air it here, people couldn't see it at the time. It was from a different cultural region, different time, about quite specific American issues (mostly to do with wars in Asia). It wasn't made for anyone here. Czech people first saw it in the 90s and yet they absolutely fell in love with it. out of 4 TV stations, one aired it several episodes per day over and over again for years, because when they stopped for few months, the public outrage was enormous. It is brilliantly written show about human nature.
He did become my favorite with the exception of Potter and Mulcahy
Winchesters stoic disposition breaks down often, it’s heart warming to see him go postal for another person. The writers of MASH are artists of life.
God, this show was beautiful in the ugliest of settings!
God, it was hard not to love that man in moments like these.
"On the contrary, it is I who should be sorry. It is sadly inappropriate to give dessert to a child who has had no meal.”
"You're going to that dinner breathing through your fly!"
Run for your life Prescott!! It's a wild Boar!
I totally missed this line, OMG so brilliant!
An amazing scene. To think that the ivory tower of Dr. Charles Emerson Winchester crumbled so quickly when he met a man far more arrogant than him.
It wasn't the arrogance, rather it was the indifference the man showed. Winchester cared about people, his entire time on the show and his stories were him trying to help people in his way. Be it a book or a piece of piano music, Winchester cared for those around him. While arrogant and haughty, Winchester was kind and loyal. Here was a man who couldn't find two seconds to assist with the life of a child Winchester cared for and he couldn't tolerate the indifference shown. Have to agree, to be honest.
The Third! You forgot the last little bit. LOL
@@bwill887 that book of music was for the left hand only. His sister also had a very terrible stutter and that did not bother Charles at all. He may seem pompous but he truly cared. You just can't find quality writing these days like you can back then.
@@billcox8870 Dang it! I was just thinking the same thing! 😂
He cared
You smarmy bureaucratic microbe... I loved Charles he was great. Always was my favorite character.
Charles was arrogant but a good decent man Frank had no redeeming qualities
For *real.* Even Margaret was bad (in more ways than the obvious one) with Frank around. She became a better person without his nasty, smarmy, meritless influence.
It must have worn Larry down, having to present that worthless character so consistently. No wonder he left.
This is why I love Winchester. Yeah, you start off thinking him just an ass, but as things go on his belief in the system, civility, is challenged, and he chooses to do the right thing. That's a mark of character, doing the right thing even when it goes against your deeply held beliefs. Thank you Charles Emmerson Winchester.
... the third
The way these actors were able develop their characters into what we watched was why this was a great show. Who didn't hate Frank Burns and have to step back for a moment to realize it was a character. No less the character of Major Winchester, the arrogance just flowed from him like most people sweat, then you get this scene where all his past talks about being charitable finally shows itself because if a more arrogant then himself bureaucrat. This was and is my favorite fictional show.
Actually, I was a bit disappointed that Larry Linville left the show when he did. His final scenes are Burns were actually really emotional and relatable. He stands there on the helicopter pad, watching as Margaret flies away while everyone else leaves him there, now truly, finally alone. I felt SO sad for him. That final, "Goodbye Margaret," was heartbreaking. I really wanted to see him make the journey back from the abyss, but we never did get to see it.
On the other hand, I loved Charles. His first season suffered from his being given Burns stories to be Charles in (like the one where he accidentally administers curare to a patient, and later wanders around with someone half bandaged - clearly this was meant to be Burns), but he grew into SUCH a deep character.
Even Frank had some small depth to him. It was established early on that he had left behind a successful private practice only to find his leadership aspirations denied and relentlessly ground into the dirt. Still a weasel, but one with some reason to feel resentful.
Huge Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul fan here. But MASH is the best show in the history of television.
For me Frank Burns is the most unlikable tv character EVER. I still watch the reruns but will only watch when Winchester comes to the 4077
@@sbella6719 Ironically, I thought early HAWKEYE was at least as insufferable as Burns was, childish and self righteous. In his last season, they started turning Burns around a bit, I would have liked to see them finish his arc (as much as I love Winchester).
Steirs' character was a great addition to the program. As Pierce represented a healthy anarchy in the face of unmentionable stress, suffering and death, so Charles represented civilization, order and adherence to convention and principles. Life cannot continue without equal measures of both. And Steirs played his role with wit, theatricality and deep humanity. I wish he had lived longer to play many more such parts. He was a hero in real life as well--coming out as gay when he feared his frequent employer Disney would drop him. Of course, the Disney Corporation did no such thing and not one protest was heard from anyone. Bravo.
I found out he voiced dr Jumba in lilo and stitch (and the tv series) and cogworth in beauty and the beast (cartoon film) and voiced in other disney films
Houlihan was a much improved character after they lost Frank, too.
Most of Mash is too one dimensional. Winchester is different. Your suppose to hate him but I don't When he shows humanity, it multiplies many times over. I remember when he was teaching classical music to Chinese musician.
@@scotcoon1186 I didn't like the older MASH. The cast towards the end was much better. The comedy didn't try to hard, and the people were more complexed.
@@slewone4905 I agree, as pompous as he was, it was hard to hate him because he was always striving for excellence in his work and his character.
On a show filled with classic characters, Winchester may have been the best.
That moment when even Hawkeye knows better than to try to lighten the mood up or cracking up a joke. It strikes him. Charles does have a heart. Not wearing it on his sleeve makes it only pound stronger. That slight touch upon the wrist… Hawkeye knows that Charles’ pride may be hurt but never his dignity or the dignity of his fellow men. A true aristocrat. And that’s why Hawkeye just shuts up. He knows he might get slaughtered by his friend because he has gone positively ballistic, beautifully at that.
Charles always found his emotions when they were most needed.
There is some shit up with which a Winchester simply will not put.
I was an army apprentice for three years between the asges of 16 and 19, and my mates and I crowded the TV room to watch every episode of MASH: It was, and remains, one of the greatest series ever produced. Brilliant scriots with equally brilliant actors.
Where are you from that they have "Army apprentices?"
id love to know more about being an army apprentice.
@@deathcole He's talking out his ass.
@@deathcoleprobably the Australian Army.
Charles acts all high and mighty, but he has a heart of gold.
Charles was one of the best characters to come out of MASH. He could be elitist, arrogant, and sometimes condescending, but he cared about people and wasn't afraid to (occasionally) show people just how much he secretly cared. A shining example of a jerk with a heart of gold.
Speaking as a jerk with a heart of gold, I can relate to the character Winchester. _My_ good fortune has been living long enough to confront the times I _was_ a jerk with deep shame, and having had to do that I can now let my heart do the talking.
David Ogden Stiers's parents were once asked if Charles was who their son was in real life. Their answer? "If he was, do you think we'd tell you?"
This was not an actor, nor a man. He was, quite simply, a force of nature. And we were blessed beyond measure to have him.
I remember well the final episode when the characters were celebrating the end of the war and saying what they would do with their lives; Charles commented that he would be head of thoracic surgery and his life would go on pretty much as he anticipated; then he paused, and added that music had always been his way of escaping the horror, and now (due to the death of the prisoner musicians he had been training which affected him so badly he went and smashed the record of the piece he had been teaching them) music would always be a reminder. In effect, the war or at least the experience of becoming simpatico with N Koreans who were not combatants but artists, had taken a part of his life from him forever.
i was in high school when that 2½ hr episode aired. It was hard to say what was sadder: That scene or the one when Margaret says to Col Potter, "You dear sweet man. I'll never forget you".
Wish we had immigration policies like that now!
One of Winchester's finest moments. Very underrated member of the cast. He to me was the glue of the show.
It shows that the character has his "complexity", i.e., most of the time, Charles was unflappable, but over some little girl who only a few days earlier he didn't even know, he's ready to kick some ass.
“My hands are tied.”
“Now there’s an idea!”
"Mr. Prescott is in conference! Let them eat out!" 🤣🤣
The episode where each person in 4077 was given a stateside grade-school pen pal, and the young girl who wrote to Charles sent him the gift of a perfect red-gold autumn leaf, and in his response to her, he opened by saying, "It was with indescribable joy that I received your gift ... "
Classic Winchester ...
One of, if not the best, sitcom ever. It had it all. And even with main characters leaving, they replaced them with equals or better.
And deliberately replaced them with their opposites so that the show's dynamic stayed fresh in a way few shows manage
Especially with the backdrop of war... or conflict... or police action. I can't believe George Carlin missed this example of "soft language", especially with Vietnam going on in his heyday.
Charles Emmerson Winchester the 3rd cannot be topped for one of the deepest characters put to fiction. A flawed, but ultimatly kind and loving person. Shielding himself with the armor of an elite, but never able to totally hide that deep down he was truly a soft hearted gentleman.
Winchester may have been the most layered character on the show. He definitely evolved over time to be one of my favorite characters.
I admire the way the show could lose an actor/character and replace him with someone just as interesting without missing a beat. Top quality.
Charles Emerson Winchester lll is a man I don't think I could stand being around too long in reality. In spite of his condescending attitude, however, I LOVE this character. He's my favorite at the 4077. Go figure!
Oh, thank you for this! Anyone who has ever worked for the government or is a public servant can empathize with Charles and Hawkeye here. I only discovered M.A.S.H. in 2009 while my dad was dying and watching his long-beloved show was the one thing we could still do together. I will return to this again and again, especially when I have to deal with my school district or the State Teachers Retirement System in California. thank you again!!!
In later years, Mr. Prescott would be found investigating Clayton Bigsby.
Right!!!
Who? On MASH?
OMG YOU'RE RIGHT! THAT'S HIM! LOL!
@@richardjohnson455 Just do yourself a search here for "Clayton Bigsby," and I'll let it explain itself. 🙂
Charles is the best. Love it when he’d lose his temper and instead of yelling would just speak quickly yet lose none of his eloquent parlance.
I wish our politicians were as eloquent.
@@jackmalvern5704 I wish our politicians were as principled. Lol. $X^ b
Major Charles Emerson Winchester is one of the greatest tv characters of all time! Such a well developed and fleshed out character who vastly improved MASH when he came on. R.I.P. David Ogden Stiers.
This is why I MUCH PREFER Winchester to Frank. His presence on the show demonstrated the complexity of humanity. He was boorish, arrogant, a blowhard, rude, etc. However, he also had heart and passion and fought when he needed to for those he loved. What a GREAT episode!
Same here. I hated Frank Burns. When you needed Winchester, he was there for you and had ethics
Another reason to like Winchester: he had a brilliant mind and was an excellent surgeon, at least as good as if not better than Hawkeye. Unlike Frank, Charles backed up his arrogance with skill.
Winchester was the defining statute of class. Annoyed however he was by Pierce, he never looked down on someone based on their wealth or lack their of, their education or lack their of. Charles only ever judged a person based on their innocence and strength of character. As different as he and Pierce were, he admired Pierce's conviction to helping others, and though the man mever touched a farm tool in his life, he looked up to Potter for being a resolute picture of distinction and compassion no matter the circumstances.
Yep Winchester respected Pierce and it went both ways which was one of the defining difference between the Winchester character and Burns. None of the other surgeons respected Burns or his abilities as a doctor or his leadership style (or lack therefore) and he didn't respect them even professionally despite them being excellent surgeons. Their clashes with Winchester were the result of just being people of different classes and tastes rather than personal animosity.
In the episode were Hawkeye's dad nearly died, Charles offers his wit and wisdom the best he can! He gets that his 'father' was a good man but not the 'dad' that Hawkeye has!
He liked Radar as well.
A great scene from one of THE greatest tv shows. Pierce's sarcasm was classic; and this scene was a classic with "how gauche". That phrase has stuck with me all these years.
M*A*S*H was the best series of the 70's and easily one of the very best shows of all time. Great writing, production, and a stellar cast.
I have to admit, when I was a kid and they introduced Charles into the show, I wasn't a fan of him at first. But as the writers wrote storylines that allowed him to grow, I began to like him. Especially after that Christmas episode that already has been getting a lot of mentions in the comments. That episode where he stuck up for the stuttering soldier, then he listened to the recording his sister Honoria sent him hit home for me, as I had a slight speech impediment growing up that my fellow students made fun of. I grew out of it, luckily.
Helping the concert pianist who lost the use of his right arm.
I love a noble man who uses his powers for good, Charles was a blue blood but he was the kind that loved his fellow man.
We don’t have as many like him anymore, it’s sad honestly.
True, hardly any of the ultra rich give a damn about the average Joe.
That’s why our country is in the state it is - falling apart
with both political parties acting like fools
Aye. There are many who are noble by birth, many noble by nature, but noble by birth and nature, that is rare.
David Ogden Stiers was a beautifully underrated actor. I wish he would have done more acting projects. His pompous over the top arrogance was counterbalanced by his tenderness. Easily the best actor on the show. One of the finest ever to grace the small screen. Watch his performance in the glorious miniseries The First Olympics. As naturally charming as his voice over in Pocahontas as the obnoxious Governor Radcliffe. An enduring talent.
He was equally fun in his few episodes of _Stargate Atlantis._
I totally agree. I’ve come to consider him to be the true star of MASH during his six seasons on the show. He’s pretty much the only reason why I watch any episodes from the last 4-5 seasons.
This is why for me Charles is one of the best characters in television history. Yes, he could be an arrogant boor and could belittle people sometimes especially when they challenged his ego, but plenty of times in the show he could show great amounts of empathy and compassion as well. This scene is one example of Charles losing it because of the lack of compassion this man has for another human being, but I also think the same was shown in the episode with the stuttering marine or the finale where Charles bonds with some Chinese musicians who were conscripted into the People's Republic Army. When they are being taken away, Charles is clearly trying to prevent them from being sent to a POW camp that he knows will have terrible conditions and when they are all killed, Charles is obviously aggrieved at the loss of his dear friends.
I was always amazed at how his real voice was so different from his character
Yeah it's true. It's shocking when you hear DOS speak out of character. Affected New England/Boston accent versus Midwestern Standard America English.
@@fleatactical7390 Yup, he grew up near Peoria IL, attended the first two years of high school in Urbana IL (same high school I attended) with fellow classmate Rodger Ebert and then ended up in Eugene OR before going out to NY to enroll at Juilliard.
Plus Ogden is voice actor!!! He’s the voice of Cogsworth, Dr.Jumba Jookiba, and many more Disney characters!
@@elphie808 Indeed, looking up his bio, he did a ton, plus a lot of narration too. His voice had a unique quality. He will be missed, passed back in 2018..
He used an accent as Winchester was from Boston Massachusetts where actor David Ogden Stiers was from Illinois and moved his family to Oregon. He is classically trained actor in dramatic arts and years of theatre.
RIP Major Winchester. Under that Bostonian exterior, was a heart of gold. See you in heaven if I get there.
The good days of real TV.
Far better than the so-called reality TV shows of today.
Hands down.
David Ogden Stiers was by far the best actor out of the whole cast.
Other than Harry Morgan and Allan Arbus(when we were treated to Dr Sidney).
These are only opinions of course, and every else also had their favorites.
Not sure "best" is fair to the others in the cast, but his character was perhaps most unlike his natural person, so in that regard, he presumably had a harder role to play.
By far? That's a bit of hyperbole, no doubt.
He has a kind voice also. Calming and compassionate.
@@terminat1 Next to Alda and the guy who played BJ Stiers is a genius without compare.
One of the best story lines of the series. I was also fond of others like the episode with the dream sequences, the episode with all the families of the characters getting together back in the States, and the one about the Christmas candy in which Klinger and Winchester wished each other "Merry Christmas" using their first names.
Please, What ultimately happens to this little girl?
i like this scene because it's one of the few times we see charles getting truly angry for a good cause and not just for his own reasons, unlike frank he wasn't a bad person by any means but he was a selfish one, and this is one of the scenes that shows he actually does care for others even if he doesn't show it all the time.
Charles may be stuffy and arrogant, but he's got a heart
My three favorite scenes with Charles are this, when he and Hawkeye talk about their fathers, and when Charles destroyed one of his records when he found out that a musician was practically at death's doorstep
Larry Linville did all he could w/ Frank but his character simply ran out of room. Ogden Stiers did a great job w/ Winchester and really added a lot of heart to the show. I believe Morgan did the same w/ Potter.
Potter/Winchester M.A.S.H. > Blake/Burns M.A.S.H. Easily.
It was a very wise decision on the part of the show and the writers to change the direction of the characters from slapstick to substantive, instead of trying to repeat it all. All four mentioned were great at what they did.
I know now that this wasn't the first episode where we saw that Winchester actually has a good heart under all that pompous windbaggery, but it was the first one I saw. And Ho-ly Crap was it an eyeopener.
Winchester is my absolutely favorite character on this whole series
Charles Winchester III, a very talented surgeon with capable hands.
In about two seconds, he was about to throw said hands.
I love that.
When it came to Surgical skills, Major Winchester made Major Frank Burns look like a Parking Attendant!
Winchester - " A Johns Hopkins Fellow would never spell loses as looses."
I totally read that in his voice.
They didn't even get looses right. "Winchester loooses his temper"
So... this is at a point in the show where Pierce had become kind of over-the-top as a characterization. I'm not sure if it was the writing or Alda's delivery or what. But Winchester was a breath of fresh air that kept things on a funnier level at times. I personally note how Pierce's remarks are kind of "meh" here as comedy goes... ("kick and gouge" is funny though, but still sounds... sitcom-ish) but Winchester gets the truly funny line: "you smarmy bureaucratic microbe, you're going to that dinner breathing your fly." And Stiers delivered it perfectly.
Charles could be a snooty, arrogant, hard-to-like man. But you let him see a child shown no thought or care at all, or a soldier made fun of for a stutter, or a man think his music career is over because of the loss of the use of one of his hands, or the innocnet killed, you got a man with a real heart of GOLD.
I alway thought Frank burns was a wimpy needy character that always jump in Margaret’s lap like a needy chihuahua.
Charles was the icing on the cake on this show. I admired his Boston bulldog arrogance attitude and his taste of music.
With word or with sword, Winchester is a potent rival when darkness looms.
Charles was always kinda arrogant, but the fact that this is the first time we see him go for violence in THESE circumstances, shows his good soul...
2:46 I love the look of resignation on Hawkeye’s face when Charles tells him to shut up. 😂😂😂
Charles unlike Frank had a spine that could be used to build great structures. He also behind his arrogance could and would backup what he claimed. The best part of Major Winchester he would rarely bully, but would roundly thrash bullies in his own way.
Like Captain Sweeney in "Run for the Money", tormenting the stuttering Private Palmer.
And to think everyone was worried Hawkeye would lose his temper
You don't....or didn't...understand why the video had 100k views as of 11 months ago? Very easy to understand why it did/does; "Major Winchester" was trying to save the life of a child, of a little girl who would have suffered immeasurably at the hands of despotic people in her own country (Korea).
What's not to understand? Anyone who cares one whit about children, whether they have any of their own, or not, fully understands his angst and anger, and his fury-filled rage. I'm an elderly woman who has lost both of her children to death, one as a baby (at her birth), the other as a very young man (accident), and have almost no physical strength with which to dispatch someone. But if some nincompoop bureaucrat, who believed himself to be "all that" were to pull this kind of stunt in my presence, the she bear in me would also try to tear him apart, and he'd be having sex with his wife in positions that are currently impossible!
Pongebob
"M*A*S*H Winchester looses..."
If something is loose, then tighten it up!
It's good to see Charles's nicer side. David Ogden Stiers was a genuinely great guy too.
Charles is by far the best character on the whole show, in my opinion. (And this is coming from someone who generally prefers the original cast and first three seasons of the show.) He was so complex and versatile and so brilliantly acted by the late great David Ogden Stiers. He stole just about every scene he was in. I know Hawkeye was the star and main focus, but I wish he had stepped back more and let Charles shine. Also, I think Charles and Hawkeye made a great duo. I like watching them much better than I like Hawkeye and BJ.
Agreed! 💯
If I remember correctly, they end up having to take the little girl to the nuns who ran an orphanage for such children which Father Mulcahy had advised them to do in the first place.
They all kissed her good bye and wished her well. M.A.S.H. was full of such moments and one of the few shows that got better over time.
A monastery, actually. This was one of the most poignant episodes of any show, not least for the Korean official's statement about the U.S.
Winchester was all ivory tower surrounded by a moat of hoity toity. But when it came to matters of the heart Charles would lower the drawbridge and charge out in defense of those less fortunate.
Everybody should remember their family Christmas tradition. It answers why he shows so much charity in the realist sense
Chinese take-out and maybe a movie.
Charles has much more depth than Frank ever did. Larry never got this caliber of writing.
Also, the only character to ever truly one up Col. Flagg.
Other than Potter.
God Bless David Ogden Stiers.
No other actor, besides Harry Morgan, could bring me to tears the way David did in the MASH episodes.
God... the sad thing about this?
The same, if not worse shit was happening with people who worked with us in Afghanistan, and then got turned away because suddenly, it became policy to do so, even after promising a new life to people, and who did so at great risk to themselves and their family.
I love seeing characters change, evolve and grow.
Favorite MASH moment: Radar saluting Blake when he’s about to get on chopper out.
Charles Winchester as a character was everything we wish rich people were.
Winchester was one of the most complex characters on the show. Honestly, probably the most complex.
one of the advantages of living here in Britain is that, first time out at least, we didn't get MASH shown with a laugh track, which is pretty grotesque even here when there isn't the aftermath of gross violence being portrayed on screen. So many successful current US comedies (even when crossbred with Canadians) do great without laughter of questionable origin.
Ahh, M*A*S*H*. One of the only American TV shows that successfully used irony on a regular basis....
Korea gave Major Winchester a look at a world he barely knew existed and, beforehand, might not have cared. As a result, he was a better man than even he knew. I would have enjoyed seeing a few stories of how “postwar” Winchester carried himself when he got home to Boston high society.
How many of us who loved the show was absolutely stunned by Charles outburst! Lol
Winchester is my favorite character from mash. I hated him when he first arrived but as he was repeatedly challenged over the series we got to see him change and develop. He remained an arrogant prick but we got to see his real humanity underneath it all.