Reality Of Air War With China, Military Tech Gap
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Former Air Force F-16 pilot Jason Cooper speaks with David Hookstead about a potential air war with China and what it would look like. He also discusses the technology gap.
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Given that China can't even fill their nuke with fuel, I don't think their people or planes or are really capable of what is claimed.
A dude in Australia, a former US Marine fighter pilot, just got busted over in China training pilots. Bad , bad, bad
There are numerous traitors selling out to china. If the price is right your betrayal can be bought.
The people who leaked the f35 raptor design documents were people working for the f35 project.
They were chinese employees. Stealing information and sending them to china informant in america
This is one of the most ridiculous cases showing the USA abusive behavior over its allies, the pilot in question is Daniel Duggan an is believed to have trained pilots in South Africa between 2010 and 2012, but wats concerning he is no longer a US citizen, yet Australia is willing to allow its citizen to be arrested and indicted in another country, he did not commit the crime in the USA
@@terryvarta9306 because it is an offence. Federal offence. No matter what country you seek refuge. He signed a document not to teach non- americans , the secret american tactics. To enemies.
@@terryvarta9306 Australia has a very poor history of protecting its own citizens, both Labour party and LNP coalition, Julian Assange was held up, then imprisoned, even David Hicks etc. Australian governments is just a mess. The current PM is a dim light bulb, very dim. Only good at returning the ISIS brides ?? terrorists??
Capitalism 😂
Dont underestimate your enemy...
Never underestimate your potential enemy. Particularly one that has been around for 5000 years more than you, has almost three times the population and has a total economic output comparable to yours. People seem to forget that the U.S. historically benefited from stealing and copying Europe’s technologies and ideas until they achieved the critical mass of home grown innovation. China has been doing the same for more than 40 years and now is at the phase of developing, at a massive scale, their own stuff. Although the U.S. is still the top innovation dog, it’s far from being a monopoly.
5000 years to learn how to become a drone following a dictator is not progress.
Northrop Grumman builds the B-21, not Boeing
Boeing builds significant parts of the B-2 and also the F-35 . Prime contractor is of course Northrop.
@@chadleschasin2893prime subcontractor for F-35 is also Northrop
@@avd1697 exactly …they also built significant parts for the F-22 … it’s a way of not putting all your eggs in one basket…. That’s the military industrial way of doing things.
Great guest, thank you
Very informative!
It's fascinating that he thinks an F16 carrying 6 missiles is better than a F22 carrying 8 missiles.
I think he meant (but forgot to add) that on top of that he can have external fuel tanks and much longer loitering time or bigger range.
@@StritarDF-16 with 2 EFTs does not have the combat radius or loiter of a slick F-22A or F-35A. F-35A has the best radius and persistence of them all due to fuel fraction and single engine.
F-35A Block 3 in A2A configuration already flies with 4x2 AAMs (4 AIM-120 & 2 AIM-9X, with AIM-9X carried externally on stations 1 & 11.
Block 4 has 6x2 with the same count as an F-22A. Sensor coverage of a 4 ship of F-35s makes the F-16 look like an antiquated relic, unless you're talking Block 70, which still doesn't have what F-35 does.
@@LRRPFco52 alright, I stand corrected.
@@LRRPFco52 Plus all the data you'll get by having the F-35s up. You'll get unprecedented battlefield awareness.
hes a fucking fighter pilot dude are you serious? F22 can been seen at max range from china and russia and further range missiles. Its not some invincible super plane its like a su35
"Let's train to the scariest environment possible" - copy that
But how do they prevent EMP airburst over America?
@@Kaatu-barada-nikto Good luck believing that.
Fuel matters more in an actual war
F-35A carries 18,250lb internally.
F-16CM with 2 external tanks combined with internal fuel is 12,000lbs, and draggy.
@@LRRPFco52 specs, adverts and movies will tell us one thing... But reality always proved to be different.
Very interesting, thank you! GBR
At the end of the interview This dude sums it all up.
The free flow of ideas enhances innovation.
My opinion as a engineer regarding china, its not necessarily innovation thats their problem more like engineering maturity combined with manufacturing procceses that can make complex designs a reality.
Lets also not forget a significant aspect to our technological development post ww2 compared to other countries we didnt lose as many troops nor did we have to rebuild our major cities or infastructure, also the air force wouldnt have its advantage without the nazis from operarion paperclip same with the space program.
This guy does make some great points though we had that same mindset in the infantry as well.
Good video, some caveats:
-(4:56) The F22 can carry 6 AIM120s and 2 AIM 9Xs internally for a total of 8 air to air as opposed to the F16s 6 total. Even the F35 with the new Sidekick rack can carry 6 missiles internally. His statement is just wrong.
-(7:32) Northrop Grumman makes the B2 (as well as the B2), not Boeing...☺
-The only 2 things to worry about with China (3 if you count nukes) are missiles and number of soldiers, sailors, etc...
Huge population means huge potential military personel strength and lots and lots of missiles. That's pretty much it.
Want a cookie?
iirc the F-35 is also still considered stealth with the two wingtip AIM-9s and adds minimal drag, technically Sidekick would give it 8 as well
China can't equip all its fighting age males with weapons, equipment, logistics, advanced systems, transportation, or even count on its weapons to have their rocket fuel because it has been sold off for hot pot cooking. When we say China is corrupt, it's not a rivalry cliché, but worse than we can imagine.
Yeah I stopped watching after the first mistake, if you can't count to 8 I really don't trust anything else you say.
@@FAKEGSF He's an F-16 guy who hasn't looked into F-22A and F-35 details that much, or he might be primarily focused on AIM-120.
Deeply knowledgeable guest
not really 😂
I totally agree with everything that was said!
... most of which is just wishful thinking, untested and presumed
Then you're either dumb or naive!😂
Manufacturing is actually booming out of China and into the United States us manufacturing has been skyrocketing because everything that's being made in China is now too expensive it's switching to India and Mexico Vietnam in the Philippines ....
@@hilairelaplume1616 lol. Wishful thinking. Look up the Manufacturing index
So true!
I think so long as top brass and policy makers are not as dismissive as Jason (as well as some of the people commenting here) of China's potential capabilities, there is a good chance America will come out on top in this hypothetical conflict.
Just keep hoping. You realize China is a nuclear power? More importantly, it is an economic super power having a very hard working population ... something that the US does not have
@@gdiwolverinemale4th Excessive pride and a belief that things will inevitably go your way breeds complacency. It does so in the US, it does so in China, it does so everywhere.
@@imashaaark I agree. But that kind of thinking is predominantly visible in the US as this video shows. Much less in other countries.
So you agree with these “dismissive” people? 😂 Make it make sense, bruh.
@@gdiwolverinemale4th That may be the popular perception because most people's second language is English instead of Chinese, so they never go to Douyin to see the same sort of chest-thumping by Chinese pundits.
How will these "innovations" become reality without a domestic manufacturing base?
Thank you for bringing how we empower our war fighters and disperse responsibility and leadership so we don’t have one singular point of failure in conflict.
Never tested in a real battle. In Vietnam, it was far from peaches and cream as the US thought it would be.
@@gdiwolverinemale4th Gorilla warfare is effective but not sustainable. We took too much of a humane approach to Nam
@@Sincere281 Yes, there was a good reason for that. Others have hammers too. Nukes worked on Japan because it could not respond
@@gdiwolverinemale4th I’m not saying we should have used nukes. I’m only inferring that napalm could have been used alittle more 🔥
@@Sincere281 It was used to the maximum capability. Nearly 10,000 aircraft were lost trying to achieve the impossible. Westmorland lost the war and now enjoys Lucifer's company, but his odor still floats around
Agree Brother
Finally someone with sense
Boeing does not make the B-21 Raider. Northrop Grumman does. Northrop Grumman also makes the B-2 Spirit stealth bomber. And because it was such a good plane that’s probably why the government went with Northrop because they had all the experience making a stealth bomber.
Boeing is the number one subcontractor of b2 b21 and f35
Exactly “it’s not the plane it’s the pilot” 🎯
Time's almost up.
Most Impressive, the extraordinarily high level of Mr. Cooper's intelligence. Absolutely Outstanding, indeed!! 🇺🇸
Roland Singh, Canada 🇨🇦
General Patton: "We defeated the wrong enemy."
If you want a example of this kind of air war, between China and America, study the Falklands War.
It's a fascinating balance of differences in training, size and logistics in a complete spectrum fight, air, land and sea.
Like, how did they beat a large air force with short logistics trails and modern air superiority fighters and the latest sea skimming ASMs with two conventional carriers armed with early Harriers and Sea Harriers?
Doctrine, strategy, training and technology.
In order for force multipliers to multiply, you need something _to multiply in the first place_
Britain had the Royal Navy, the RAF and the FAA.
And you need to be lucky.
One wrong room of the dice and they would have burned at the end of that hideous supply chain.
Pretty much the main reason the Argentinians lost is because they ran out of Exocets. Six launches, three hits on three different objectives and two sunk ships for an effectiveness rate of 33%. Imagine what they could’ve done with 20 more missiles and an extra four Super Etendard.
@@alarriag1You seem to know what you’re talking about ref the Falklands. I remember seeing a report that said Thatcher had forced the French to “turn off” the Exocets with the threat that we would nuke Argentina. This corresponds with pictures of British ships that had holes clean through them by unexploded missiles. Have never been able to find references to it again, as if it’s been struck from history. Obviously arms sellers don’t want a reputation of scuppering their own equipment. Apparently they keep the ability to do this so they aren’t used against themselves. What do you think?
Well said guys
air planes / techs are no longer the top of many factors to make one airforce is better than the other nowadays. it is so true that the training behind the air crafts for the pilots makes the difference. with that said, how many western countries could afford to pay such training programs for their pilots like the US and China? more extensively, the national economics is the power behind the reality.
Manufacturing IS coming back to the U.S. The extended supply chains developed since WWII are over. Mexico will make out well. Probably Colombia too. We have Free Trade Agreements with both of them. High end is returning to the U.S. Think high end chips, etc. I agree with the the rest of what he is saying. Yes, our logistics is what makes the U.S. military great. China's PLAN can barely go past the First Island Chain.
China doesn't need to go beyond the 1st island China when they have hypersonic missiles that can hit ANY carriers and airbase around the world.
The difference between us and everyone else is that we are able to reach out and touch anyone, anywhere. Nobody else can really do so. Not to mention that we’ve basically perfected this ability.. 😏🤷🏻♂️
I've heard strong theories that the reason why China does not want to project power with a large mobile force such mass aircraft carriers is that they're politically afraid such a force would be too independent. They could easily turn around to fight their own regime at the drop of a hat. History has a long list of dictators that don't like independent armed forces.
at 4:30-5:00 he talks about how stealth fighters have less missile capacity. Specifically the F22 vs the F16. The F22 can carry 8 AAM, the F16 realisticially only carries 6....
I haven't seen a USAF F-16C in a combat configuration with more than 4 AAMs in 33 years. Can it carry 6? Sure, but we don't even use them for A2A much. We worked on A2A systems and weapons expansion for the Viper out of Edwards with TDY to White Sands and Eglin a lot, so I'm intimately familiar with its stores and employment.
An F-35A with 4x2 has more stowed kills than a Viper with 5x1 for the reasons he stated.
The Chinese and Russians don't have the capability to sortie-gen 100 Fighters into a specific skirmish area anyway. They're lucky to get 14-20 birds in the air within a realistic time/space kill box for us.
The team with the best intelligence generally wins, period.
And Logistics
How often would we really merge with aircraft in modern warfare?
If fighters with any kind of 1990s-era Radar and sensors are purposely merging into WVR against opponents with BVRAAMs and Helmet HOBS missiles, they're stupid. Helmet HOBS missiles have pushed into BVR realm as well, so it's more dangerous now than ever to get even close to the outer edge of WVR.
I’ve seen an interview about the Air Force’s readiness actually at a point of critical concern. They’ve had to have an institutional wide overhaul to address the problem. All the wings are apparently too isolated and piecemeal.
I think the stealth internal weapons capacity issue is solved by the F-15EX and possibly the B-21.
F-22A carries more AAMs than a Viper (6x2). F-35s carry 4x2.
This one watched too much Hollywood movies to think US pilots suppose to win by default when the surface to surface missiles both Russia & China has double the range anything US has in its arsenal😅😅
Aerial refueling in particular is way ahead.
You can't have innovation without manufacturing. What we will not have is low cost labor manufacturing and we haven't had that for a LONG time. High labor costs in manufacturing breeds innovation.
You're crazy if you think China isn't big on manufacturing innovation. They're staring down the barrel of a population implosion like Japan is suffering now and preparing for it as fast and as hard as they can go.
You’re not correct. In aircraft and engine manufacturing we are extremely competitive. Mexico has the cheapest labor in the world. China is 3x what Mexico is and 2x in efficiency. And no one can touch our engines. Every airframe and engine supplier has plants in Mexico. Making the F35 in scale is huge. The DOD is a waste machine and needs to re-structure its procurement practices.
@@AndyRRR0791 That was my point. Without having the responsibility of manufacturing you miss out on the opportunity to innovate.
Sounds like you have never looked at the drone market.
@@voidtempering8700 exactly. Some drones don’t even need jet engines and if they do they will small, cheap and low radar sig.
Talking up the skill set of American fighter pilots is nice, particularly when NATO exercises are conducted, and the German pilots are told to let the other pilots win from time to time. Where most countries have problems retaining skilled pilots because they ALL want to transition to the lucrative private industry, Germany is often forced to retire their pilots because they all want to stay.
B-21 is not Boeing. It’s Northrop Grumman.
Remember how the M1 and Bradley were going to lead the Ukr offensive. I sense a similar additude here.
I’ve watched multiple films of Bradley’s smoking T-90 Commie cookers. 😂😂😂
@@chandlerwhite8302 how did the big offensive go.with the wunderwaffen?
Kinda hard to do with only 30 Abrams, a few dozen Bradleys, and no air cover. Comparing Ukraine to the US military’s full suite of capabilities is laughable.
@@nole74doesn’t matter. The Russian Black Sea Fleet has fled Crimea. The land bridge no longer matters.
@@nicholascazmay2126 but the arrogance was there with the idea from the US that they would change the war and fuel an offensive. It is not realistic. It is arrogant
It’s never the “new-found” that matters. It’s the unknown. Rumsfeld never managed to get that through the block-heads of in Arlington.
We desperately need innovation in leadership selection.
I once saw an interview with a 22 pilot a few years ago and he was asked what it would look like in an air war vs Russia. He chuckled and said we'd have air supremacy in a matter of days. The comments on it were bashing him saying that's no way it would be that easy .... Wonder what those people would say now after watching the Russians in Ukraine.
They’d say the same, that it’s not that easy. Ukraine proved that a heavily defended airspace with SAMs is a no go for airplanes, I doubt Russia would be fighting the USA in the US, more likely USA in Russia or a satellite nation. So the 22s would suffer heavy casualties in a heavily defended airspace, and most likely end up not doing very few sorties or not any sorties at all like it is the case in Ukraine for the Russians.
The US hasn’t been fighting in a heavily defended airspace for years, the last time it was in Lybia where they waited for the French Rafales to enter and destroy air defences before even daring to send a US airplane, and before that it was the Gulf war where a lot of planes were shot down.
@@brunol-p_g8800 I would have to agree and add that the Ukrainians have had a lot of help fighting against and providing the U.S. with intelligence about the Russians.But also,in that theatre almost since the beginning,the Russians have air superiority and would throw a lot of unexpected tactics and use a lot of hardware not employed yet.Maybe more than the U.S. would expect,but would bring more parity to the conflict...maybe.Maybe not.
are you dumb bro or just watch cnn. Ukraine is getting anihilated Russia destroyed their entire airforce. When we were 2 years into iraq we hadnt secured shit against a completely over matched insurgents. Stealth is almost useless now lol
A matter of days? Lol. Let's see what the F16 given to Ukraine will change.
The link is allowing the steath aircraft some depth of magazine. The F-15ex will be the initial missile truck, but drones will quickly catch up.
I doubt F-15EX will even go feet-wet. They're going straight to ANG units for ADC, who didn't even want them.
@@LRRPFco52 Yeah... Maybe you haven't heard that the 142nd Wing (in Oregon) is a major part of the US's continental air defense (the 1st Air Force).
I'm going to assume you're unaware of where Oregon is in relation to the Pacific Ocean... and that the Air National Guard would fly sorties with the USAF if a shooting war started (like they have in every war)
@@kwonekstrom2138 Very aware since I've seen them since the F-15A days as they've changed types. When I say "feet wet", I mean trans-Pacific deployments. I think F-15EX will stay in the CONUS Air Defense mission profiles, unless there is some type of unique long range weapon developed for it. F-15EX didn't fare well in LFEs.
@@LRRPFco52 You mean like they have in EVERY war the US has engaged in since the formation of the national guard in 1947?
History isn't on your side.
@@LRRPFco52 I see. I'm not sure why you believe the national guard wouldn't deploy over seas.... but they've done that since their creation. 🤷🏻♂️
As for the rest... what's the combat record on the F-15's airframe?
You have your opinion, I have mine... although mine appears to be backed by history and the stated objectives of the F-15EX program.
To put it simple, countries can play in their own backyards, but America can go play in anyone's backyard in a matter of days if not hours. That is power projection.
This interviewer is hard to listen to. Boeing,? And every question was about the tech. It's like he completely ignored the answer to his first question. I had to stop listening to this whole thing. I feel sorry for the pilot.
Bold statement when Chinese pilots are currently getting more flight hours then U.S ones.
In the past I would agree with Jason's statement about China not allowing its population to innovate, but that's where things have changed in the last 7 years, where evidence shows the contrary, coupled with the economy of scale.
The reason China now has parity in many fields, is because of one interesting reason; Western system of governance is designed to keep market dominant incumbents in business in the form of corporate welfare and bailouts, because the business class are allowed to directly influence the political process, and that makes individuals, to small and medium businesses fairly difficult to make it into a market or industry. While in the last few years the CCP supports small businesses to grow and does not often offer support to prop up a failing incumbent businesses, and purposely deflate economic bubbles where they see fit, causing market corrections to occur, and allowing new businesses/industries to grow, coupled with a centralised investment system (government co-owned).
Hence the Western system relies on the stability of its system on large business (or landowners) forming monarchies/oligarchies, and protecting their market dominance is the key to stability, which is why to western systems, force projection is so important.
In the past, we see that businesses are supposed to endure longer than political parties, which was the strength of western systems but today there are far more industries and markets. Furthermore, businesses have as much impact of its clients and employees as countries themselves, BUT businesses aren't geared to manage people's wellbeing, only governments and militaries are.
The CCP system has military roots, and has a closed air-gapped political system. It encourages chaotic grass roots business growth while at times purposely reducing the market dominant incumbents. So long as businesses do not get their hand into expressions and messaging designed to counter the political apparatus, individuals can do very well. It is focused on building internal strength. So yes, 2024 China is a regional threat actor not a force projector because CCP centre-of-gravity is internal, not external. However, that is slowly changing as China realises it is growing larger than its internal systems can cope with its growth, since it has less resource resilience than Russia, hence it needs guarantees that its own SLOC cannot be affected...
Of course...that is where the US comes in.
Nothing has changed in China and now they're going backwards.
one indicator of a nation can't innovate and become stronger is corruption in the education system. people buy their way into school/degree in any country and that country would not become an innovating and eventually super power nation.
LOL….yet the Chinese have to maintain an offshore Police presence, to terrorize any free thinkers, outside the reach of the politburo. Naw comrade, you’re clueless , wish thinking, and projecting ccp propaganda. You people haven’t won a war in 3000 years, and have the most enslaved population on Earth.
China is catching up fast … rapid upgrades to their J20 and other aircraft, new types of aircraft coming on line, large rate of aircraft production, missiles, drones, robotics, tunneling. The areas where they are still behind are aircraft engines and space launch capability
China is also far ahead in corruption within the military and the Party
A lot of the f35 is linking targets to ordinance .. f15 stands off with a load outside of range and just lobs missiles
They’re not talking about classified ans. Much different there
Once the Peregrin missile is operational, the carrying capacity of the F-35 will be much higher. Along with the AIM-260, there is no comparison.
Stealth goes in and takes the eyes / ears out (AWACs plus radars for the SAMs)
Comparing the F-16 AMRAAM capability with F-35 is quite stupid. In normal stealth configuration the F-35 carries 4 and soon 6 AMRAAM. In “Beast Mode” the F-35 carries 14 AMRAAM, wich degrades the F-35’s flight performance by A LOT, but it remains still better than a 10 AMRAAM F-16 performance !!
The F-16 is cleared for a MAXIMUM of 10 AMRAAM, that is without any stealth and the jet’s performance will be so severely degraded, that it will not go fast, not high or long distances.
The F-35 has the advantage in any configuration.
The F-22 carries 6 amraam and 2 aim-9 INTERNALLY. Yeah, the F-35 only carries 4 aim-120 internally now…with the block IV upgrade adding 2 sidebays, that will go to 4 aim-120/ and 2 aim-9. So I don’t see the F-16s six AAM being an advantage over stealth aircraft.
Plus, if you can use an F-16 then you obviously don’t need stealth which means the F 35 can then carry weapons externally. In total the F35 can carry 18 air-air missiles with its external hard points in use (and internally). so I’m not sure what advantage you’re getting with an F 16 over anF 35 other than the limitation that it can’t be used over a modern high threat environment (without much more risk)
No the F-35 is not getting "2 sidebays" at all. Modifications are going to be made to the current two bays to allow them to carry three AIM-120s each for a total of six. AIM-9X are carried on the two outboard wing pylons only. If the aircraft will need its low RCS they won't be carried at all.
@@dat581 correct. not theh aim-9x but an additional AIM-120. The program is called "Sidekick" as part of the block IV upgrade. ..but that isnt relevant. Either way, it will be able to carry 6 AAMs internally...same as the f-16. BUT, here is the larger point:
If you can use an F-16 in a scenario, then you obviously don't need Very low observability. If you don't need stealth, then you can use an F-35 with external missiles on its pylons; that means it would be carrying up to double the loadout of an F-16 (or more) while still being far less observable (although not as much as when it carries internal only). So with the f-35, you get a greater AAM loadout compared to an f-16 in situations where an F-16 COULD be used. In situations requiring very low observability- and therefore, the F-16 is unavailable- the 4 AAMs the F-35 carries internally are four more than is available with the F-16 sitting outside the combat zone
From my understanding, the challenging factor for the F35 across the Pacific and South China Sea is it’s short range.
It won’t reach very far in and can’t stay on target and fight for a long time.
And the J-20 seems to be built to be low observable, high speed, high altitude, slinging long range hyper sonic missiles at our AWACS. And without those assets the F-35 would potentially have to light up their own radars, which would negate their stealth advantage.
@@davedeville6540 well, the f-35C carries 20,000lbs of fuel internally for one engine. That's as much as an F-14 with external tanks.. for TWO engines. Not to mention the lack of parasitic drag with pods and weapons primarily carried inside and no external tanks. So no...the F-35 range is better than any current or previous Naval fighter.
@@davedeville6540 and you are assuming that there are no US F-35s / F/A-18s between your J-20s and that AWACS....as if the US navy is going to leave it out there alone. The long range of the Chinese missiles are a concern but the effective range is NOWHERE close to that. It is more the refueling aircraft at risk and with the new "stealthy" AI tankers being developed that isnt an issue. Not to mention that extensive range possessed by the F-35C
we had first ai f16 dog fight and a ton of retired air frames that can be used as fodder... Not to mention the missiles that can Micic other airframes and that's just stuff we know abut
Dogfights are old school. Even in the days of missiles one had to see if the other aircraft was a friend or foe. That has changed with electronic pinging. Now shots are taken dozens of miles away from the target.
@@orlock20 yes but a cheap fighting force from old retired planes could have China's use up valuable missiles and help negate A2/AD strategy they are employing ...we don't really have to many uses for old f16 or f117 nighthawks and no human lives would be put in danger
@@eduardoviera1586 You think China doesn't have a shit ton of cheap airframes? And lol, China is pretty much the world leader in drones.
they have been talking about the stealth drones for over a year means they have them already
I worry about country's stealing our secerts and Technology and then using it against us. Our Cyber units, FBI CIA need to really step up to keep us safe.
Our pilots are independent, capable, and eager. They won’t survive the math.
He assumes theirs are like ours. Do your research.
- they don’t need the tail aspect stealth, they are expendable after missile launch
- their internal missile count is 2-3x
- the overall deployed-in-theatre airframe count is also > 5x, and getting worse
Iran - Just can't. Their air force consists of F-4s, F-5s, F-14s, and a couple of Su-35s on order. Ancient tech on hand, and new tech they've never used, based on a completely different system as their existing fleet on the other.
Russia - Capable aircraft, but the numbers aren't there. THe pilots are poorly trained.
China - Capable aircraft, numbers are growing... but they're untested and inexperienced.
China is a regional threat, but Taiwan is in that region. We allowed outsourcing of our chip manufacturing and the Taiwanese grabbed it. If we want chips under 6 nm the bulk comes from Taiwan. Losing Taiwan at this point would damage the world economy and the US economy so greatly we would suffer for a minimum of a decade. This is a classic case of pay now or pay more later. If we had put the money into chip manufacturing that we are starting to now two decades ago, the scale of China's threat is greatly reduced. The Taiwanese were smart!
Chinese president just said the US is trying to trick him in a war with Taiwan . This is like inderectly saying, I know the USA would steamroll my ass if I tried nice way to save face
ONE KEY TAKE AWAY -- They absolutely do not train like we do! Let that sink in. And they lack the war-time experience. That's not an admirable quality but it's true.
And yet we lost the war in Afghanistan, Vietnam and Korea. So what is all that "experience" when you can't win a war with conventional fight. What? Go with Nuke, we got 5K+ nuke and China probably have at least a 1K, capped on a hypersonic missile that can not be intercepted by US conventional weapons.
"As a fighter pilot make good money"... like what? Military has sliding pay scale & performance bonus ie, same rank/deployment-role and different pay between 2 people based on KPIs?
Pilots are commissioned officers so they make more than enlisted personnel/NCO’s. A pilot usually gets duty pay bonuses on top of their salary that compensate them for the more dangerous role they have. So, for example, a pilot captain will make more than a captain working on the ground, despite having the same base pay.
Its all about projection of power and thank God we had a military planner with Pres/General Eisenhower and his rapid defense system and rapid deployment and the A.N.T and fortress USA geography.
It’s not a boing aircraft B21 Northrop Grumman
15:18: they’ve proven to be able to project power far away. They have the biggest military and naval base in Djibouti (bigger than the US one the USA got from France, the oldest power present in Djibouti), they have pro en themselves in counter piracy operations, peace keeping operations and evacuation of nationals. Their influence outside their own country try is much bigger than the US one (outside Europe), they built entire air force and navy bases on man made islands in the South China sea, naval ports with a dual civilian/military purpose in the Indian Ocean, Oceania and Pacific islands nations capable of welcoming aircraft carriers (the sole territory left to complete a “belt” around Australia’s north and cut it off is French New Caledonia),etc.
As for war experience, they have Chinese civil war experience, Korean war experience where they were so effective against the USA and UN troops that the USA signed an armistice and the war still isn’t finished, against Vietnam, etc.
7:54 scanning/mapping and transmitting information was already the case with other airplanes, such as the Rafale (which pioneered sensor fusion), and then any modernised airplane that then transmits the information through links to a place/ship/aircraft/subrmarine/drone,etc.
By 2030 china will have over 1000 J-20 stealth fighters😂😂
J20 are not stealthy. They are good for their uses, but nowhere near US planes
not true they will have around 500, We already operate near 900 stealth aircraft and will have 1500+ by 2030 and around 70 NGAD new 6th gen fighters. Read force projection 2035 report to congress its a good read.
@@UniversalPlaysPage Boy go do some research to see how much of these things china is pumping out per year and come back to take that L😂😂
China has four aircraft carriers. Their latest one is not nuclear powered. The third used to be a floating casino that they bought from a hong kong business man.
The technology gap has closed... Especially in the last six years. DEI has diluted the pilot and maintenance pools. As for the F35, it's so complex and buggy that almost 70 percent are grounded at any given time. US air power is NOT what it used to be
You seem to have special government clearance to be able to say that. Tell us more
Let's not forget that China's technology is stolen from other countries. So fighting a enemy you know is easier to defeat, then a enemy you don't know.
If it was so easy america wouldn't need to spend 2 trillion in the middle east, and still come home a loser.
Russia's army is vastly improved from two years ago and their production capacity is greater than the U S. and Europe combined.
I Concure.
Does anyone here know how a single crystal airfoil is made? It’s an extremely labor intensive process and may be the biggest reason our engines last 5x as long and have the best thrust to weight ratio. Next gen engines will be CMC’s, SX airfoils and additive manufacturing. GE has. 6th gen engine now and Pratt is close. China is still reverse engineering Russian engines. Russian engines are throw away at 500 hours.
No engines are thrown out after 500 hours. Do you have a source for this claim, because everything I have found says 3-4 thousand hours.
Just 35 years of jet engine experience and visits to Saturn quoting parts. I don’t care if you believe me because who are you? Take a trip on Aeroflot and hope you live.
@@darenkennedy6363 Then I guess you might be out of date then. Which engines exactly are you referring to specifically? Because the AL-31F(which they are trying to make the WS-10A as good as, does not have a 500 hour lifetime)
Edit: Not that this really matters, because the WS-10a needed refurbishment after 30 hours of use when compared to the AL-31s as 400.
@@darenkennedy6363 Wait, why are you using refurbishing times? Are you saying Russians throw out their engines after 500 hours instead of refurbishing them?
@@voidtempering8700 according to who? I don’t believe it Crazy Ivan. Especially military engines. Have you been to the test cell? Have you seen the engine overhaul manual? I only takes 1 part with low life and they have to tear the engine down. Usually the Russians just throw it away and put in a new one because the engines are cheap, the manufacturers don’t make profit, and the designs are strictly for power and not for life.
The fact that we even discuss China as a challenge means they're already on the way to winning.
Different USAF since my day. You either win the air war or you lose the war. And lets just face the facts, nobody will survive against American air forces. But its an edge we could easily lose if we dont support these guys and Gals. And now almost every cargo plane could essentially be a Bomber if we support the development. Another thing is doctrine. China simply doesn't have the experience and doctrine for large scale war on a hemispheric scale. In particular a naval war, despite all their new type 052's and 055's and SSK's, SSN's....ect The coordination of land, sea, air, space, power alone is a huge exercise and being a suspicious, Police state they just dont trust their commanders to show initiative and react on their own to fluid battle space developments. Like the Russian's they are officer heavy and NCO weak because they consider officers more politically reliable. This is Russia's fatal weakness in Ukraine and even if they do end up winning their casualties will be enormous and they will now be in semi-control of a hostile country that will never accept their dominance.
well said
The problem isn't winning a conventional war, it's the after war the U.S. has had trouble with. The U.S. couldn't do it in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and the U.S. is afraid to try it with Iran. The U.S. has no capacity to handle over 1 billion people, let alone if they start becoming army ants and just flood its neighbors with people.
Most of what you said about commanders not being trusted, and a weak NCO core does not apply to the Chinese military anymore.
Hell, even before their reforms, them not letting commanders is a myth.
SO with this being said. Are they actually train in fighting or are we training on BVR vs Dogfighting? All I read that the Air Force is really not focused on that anymore. Also with the drone thing that is a long way off. The F-35 is a dump truck and in a fight it would lose. Maybe this is why the F-15EX is the stop gap.
F-15EX is a stop gap for dog fighting focused platforms. F-35 was never meant to be the supreme fighter jet. Air Force got caught in a pickle because of the cost failure of F-22. We need the F-15EX number wise to manage the air war against China. And yes while the emphasis on dog fighting up close isn’t what it use to be, fighter squadrons still train every day and pilots maintain their quals for dog fighting and any other relevant mission sets.
I would also disagree with drone swarms being employed in an air battle as “far off” huge advances have been made in the last 3 years to where it is now a very real possibility.
Less stealthier aircraft including 4th gen platforms before they can even get a chance to merge with F-35 will be destroyed in BVR. Otherwise F-35's pilot already made its 1st mistake. However F-35A has Typhoon's T/W ratio and Gripen's wing loading, while F-35C has Rafale's T/W ratio and Typhoon's wing loading. Which means F-35s are just as nimble and maneuverable as any European 4th gen fighter so YES F-35s can definitely dogfight.
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"The F-35 is a dump truck and in a fight it would lose. Maybe this is why the F-15EX is the stop gap."
God some of you people are dumb. The F-35 is not a dumb truck in the slightest and will out maneuver an F-15EX with little trouble. Only an F-22 or a clean F-16 can match it. No F-16 goes into combat clean. F-35s are constantly beating all 4th Generation jets with ease with kill rations better than 20:1. The F-15EX is nothing more than life support for Boeing with the USAF never wanting it in the first place. This is why they are all being fobbed off on the Air National Guard.
Pilots train for both BVR and WVR and have since the early 1970s. This has not changed with the introduction of the F-35. No the "drone thing" is not a long way off. Several designs are being tested by the USAF, NAVAIR and the RAAF.
God knows what you have been reading but you certainly talk out of your arse.
The AIM-120D can be fired on datalink, without the aircraft even lighting off it's radar. And it's got an 80 mile range. The next air war will start out as a sniper hunt.
Merging?🤣 yeah right.
the F-22 can carry 8 missiles internally and times that by a 4 ship that’s 32 missiles, way more than an f-16 load
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The adversary doesn't have to be as good as you, they only need to be good enough. China can be in and around Taiwan before the US can even begin to move forces to the region.
Exactly about china innovation
The airplane and the pilot probably don't matter so much as the logistics and support. This is where China has the ultimate advantage in the South China Sea. They can bring hundred of aircraft to bear in a a concentrated area. The U.S. is limited to what we can launch from Okinawa, Guam, the Philippines, and perhaps an aircraft carrier.
😂US are living in the old days of the empire, they always thought they are world number one, but in reality China are the truth muster of the world for 2000 years, US are so young in terms of civilization.
USAF does not have many B-2s
Please believe everything they said
What's your air can do if u can't get within 1700 killer meters 🤦🏿🤦🏿🤣🤣
Amraams are old what's up with the 260
We have about 300 operational at this point.
They are the most maneuverable BVRAAMs out there after Meteor. PL-15 on the other hand is 40% larger making it less maneuverable than an AMRAAM. Also AIM-120D3 is already on par with Meteor in terms of range since 3 years ago.
In general, probably fairly accurate.
In the domain of military aircraft which is highly dependent on R&D and high technology,
In no area except perhaps AI does China even come close to shouting distance of American aircraft and capabilities.
China has proven itself very good at modifying and improving technology created by others, but lacks fundamental knowledge of advanced materials, sciences and ideas. Unless China can gain access to American $&D, there is a big gap that China cannot easily overcome and everything China copies is inferior.
On that issue of AI, no one knows what China has developed and China isn't telling. Potentially, there is probably nothing the US has developed that China isn't capable of developing also, so if the US has developed an AI pilot. There's no way to know what China has created and it's a potential field leveling technology, nullifying America's human advantage. Whatever China is doing, it's probably slowed by US hardware sanctions but it won't prevent China from building something very capable.
Perhaps another area is hypersonics but I'm very skeptical of China's claims and AFAIK no one has actually witnessed an actual working model. The US probably retains a substantial lead not only in developing hypersonic technologies but additionally defenses against hypersonics.
Impressive technology but none of it will stop EMP airburst over America. Then what?
Dude, the F22 can hold 6 BVR and 2 short range missiles internally for a total of EIGHT. Its not like this is classified info, so not sure I can trust anything you say if you can't even count to 8 😂
U.S. best Fighters are shaped like Saucers an have laser weaponry
We have the best fighter jets and the best pilots, our greatest foe’s as it happen, are our allies, ( Thank God),, Israel, UK, would give us a run for our money, China, Russia, N Korea, not so much, the F-35, F-22 end the fight in BVR , before they know we’re airborne
F-22 doesn’t even have the BVR to compare with the missiles of what Russia and china have 😂😂😂China has Pl-16 & Russia has R-37 that both have double the ranges of what U.S has on its jets to shoot down f-22 way BVR
The B-21 is not made by Boeing. Get your facts straight.
We have already allowed them to reach our shores. What can 5000 or so military age Chinese soldiers can do to the U.S. that are already inside our borders. If we want to overestimate them, then we must conclude we have 5000 trained saboteurs within our border right now. Thank you, Joe Biden.
Thank you for the video. It was very informative.
China will have rhe Home Court advantage for either Air or Navy conflict.😮
That lack of innovation narrative is a bit stale in 2024. We see a lot of innovative companies just coming out of China now, DJI, Bytedance and BYD and some limited innovative military technologies such as hypersonic missiles. This very vague, hand waving notion of lack of freedom of expression means lack of creativity and therefore lack on innovation never made much sense to me. Freedom of expression is only restricted in the subject of politics, not science or technology. No one is censoring Chinese engineers and scientists from discussing how an EV battery works or how a rocket motor can perform better. The Soviet union was not known for its freedom of expression and yet was a military technology powerhouse.
Ramp on aircraft carrier.
lol.
Very 'innovative'.
Russia also stole all its tech.
The CCP literally owns and mismanages everything in China. The Soviet Union was not a technological powerhouse. It had the same problem China does. Centralized economies stagnate and become corrupt.
@@jonathanbaincosmologyvideo3868This comment shows who are not very knowledgeable about the history of aircraft carriers, and why ramps are used instead of flatbeds.
It's not stale at all. They are a command economy run by one party. Citizens have really little say in their life and companies have to do what's ordered by the top. They don't have the free market competitiveness needed for the innovation to keep up which is why they steal so much.
@@mcblaze1968 Have you ever heard of DJI?
American fighter pilots have three times airtime than Chinese pilots stealth is something that Chinese pilots cannot handle
How do you know this is a fact?
@@colinmitchell3213 I'll get in trouble can't say
@@colinmitchell3213He is lying, that's how.
And China has many more times the SAM net American pilots would have to be operating within.
My sources are telling me Chinese pilots are getting 1.5x the airtime of American pilots.
The inherent culture of the Chinese will be a huge negative for their pilots! They are risk averse, obedient to superiors, and will do anything to "Save face".
But they have superior numbers and in the case of Taiwan, it is a spit distance away. The outcome is clear, even the Pentagon says so. Only the Politicians believe otherwise
I guess you haven't heard of the 2016 reforms. Their air force is not like that, and hasn't been like that for almost a decade.
They may not be able to project their power to the Continental United States, but at this point they don't have to.
If they project it in the South China Sea, without a credible deterrance, it secures their economy at the detriment of their neighbours and American prestige.
And for that, combined with their present fleet, ballistic and Cruise missiles, how many carriers do they actually need?
If they still want oil from the gulf they need to project power. If it goes hot America will blockade all oil etc going into China immediately.
China could win a political war. As long as its opponents would rather talk it out, China could do what it wants.