If you put a manual adapted Leica/Voigtlander lens on the Sony with a Voigtlander close focus E-to-M adapter, you get to move as slow as you want. No one has to put an automatic, focus-by-wire lens on a camera. You can put manual and vintage lenses on them just fine. And that changes the final conclusion a bit. If you really want to move slow, on any system put a manual lens on it. Yet even with zone focusing, it's only slow until you have practice. These A7C series Sonys are getting really close to the best parts of the Leica experience, slow deliberate shooting and all (if you want that).
So much for the Leica look. It's shocking how well the Viltrox Lens performed on the Sony. I don't prefer either system as I mainly shoot Nikon, but that A7CRII looks tempting. Also, I'm a 35mm guy so the Leica would not work for me.
The Leica look has nothing to do with the sensor and everything to do with their lenses. That being said, I switched from Leica to the AC7r and the images are equally as beautiful with my new 35 1.4 and the autofocus is insane.
I just decided to sell my Q3. Hi Alex, I am the big fan of your channel. I am also Leica and Sony user. I have experience with Leica from M9, M10, SL2-S and now M11. I bought Q3 as my first Q. And I am quite disappointed with Q3. I had experience taking photo with Summicron 28mm f2 ASPH so I can compare both apple to apple. In my opinion I do not get Leica Look from Q3 at all. What I get from Q3 is not different to Sony. And Sony has much better auto focus and versatility. So I see no point to keep $7,000 camera when I can get camera giving similar image quality and 1/3 of the price. So I decide to sell Q3 and get A7Cii. When I want compactness and auto focus, I take A7Cii not my M11. I am very happy with A7Cii. Especially when I put my Leica M lenses with A7Cii, I get very good image quality. Thank you for your video to confirm my thoughts.
I bought an M11 but am a Sony shooter professionally for weddings . After comparing the images of my Sony A1 , A7iv against the m11 I returned the leica and bought an A7cii as my little more compact camera . I’ve been extremely happy since! I do shoot a leica mp for nostalgia/leica feel but digitally shooting range finder isn’t it for me . I also used a friends Q3 and the camera feels slow compared to any Sony which no one ever talks about in reviews . I love your videos btw!!
Also long time M user and CR owner. The CR EVF is not great, but for travel the CR is superb. I have several fine E mount lenses and have learned to mount one lens. A real advantage of the Sony is the ability to use a zoom. The 28-60 is very small/light and great for daylight work. If I want to replicate the Leica experience I put on a Zony 35. I don’t think that a IQ -as hyped as it is is- a real M type experience. Essentially the Leica marketing department has created an image maker for those desire the red dot.
Great comparison! I have both cameras and I love them both for what they are and the experience they offer. The strong connection to the camera and also the slowed down process of the Leica combined with a unique feel make it my “always with me”. I use the Sony as a “rational” option when I need versatility (different focal lengths). The advantage of both packages? I don't have to worry about image quality. Because of the extremely high resolution, I also have the opportunity to play with the image composition in post-processing.
Honestly, if you want to shoot Leica buy an M for the authentic experience, ie. rangefinder and manual focus otherwise Sony cannot be beat for their bodies/value and optics far as full frame cameras are concerned. Leica M9/M10 owner here.
I own both and the Q3 is a Limited Experience.. nice images but I can shoot all day with a couple of lenses and my A7cR, and still get relatively the same image quality. But if I had an M11, it would be the mashup of both these cameras, a great idea looking for financing!
Great and fun comparison Alex. This kit would be baller for street photos and travel photography! I love that you mentioned that options affect the simplicity of using the camera because now you’re focused on what lenses you’re bringing along. That’s part of the reason I picked up a Ricoh gr iiix to compliment my Q2 and I don’t have to buy or bring lenses.
I recently moved to Leica Q3 from using a variety of Sony cameras. I have no doubt that the new Sony A7CR shoots fantastic images - but I always disliked the Sony’s menu layout and I always ended up putting it in the most auto setting so that I didn’t have to deal with the Sony’s menu system. Leica is a lot easier to handle in that regard. Now, is this a reason that’s worth paying an extra £3,000? Probably not but it’s something that’s not too problematic for me, and the smaller overall package is something that was important for me too. And no, I never changed lenses with the Sony cameras I had, I was just after a convenient point and shoot that was easy to carry and gave great images.
Thinking of the Q3 but this is the review I`ve been waiting for. Used Leica for 25 years and still do. Currently film and digital M`s a CL and an SL2.Love the brand but not the AF system so still wary of that when considering the Q3. I was unaware of this Sony model and it seems to be more flexible as regards lenses (obviously) and better af when coupled with a Sony lens. I`m not minded to buy it as yet but I def will not be buying a Q3 now because you have demonstrated that the Sony ,at least for me ,offers a better package .Thank you .
I should have added that I`ve used Sony bodies in the past ... my only issue with them was that the grip was always too small .Uncomfortably so and the menu system I found dreadful Other than that they did the job. For now I`ll stick with my M`s but if I need a compact it seems this Sony body is worth considering .
Been a Leica shooter for many years, M, S, SL, Q, T. Waited for a Q with 40/50mm lens, when Sony announced the a7cr it not only is replacing my Q the M is also being sold. Leica electronics are sadly poor, Sony is making spectacular lenses, the 24/40/50 f2.5 are small yet beautiful IQ lenses. Leica can not compete on autofocus, and Sony can not compete on the Leica simplicity in controls and menu. Take your pick. As a photographer looking for images primarily Sony wins for me, although I will miss the fun of owning a Leica, there is a beauty to their designs and quality that gives a great deal of haptic pleasure, not unlike driving a great sports car as pointed out.
True. Sony has a nightmare menu. But for this type of shooting I think ya can set it and leave it. I understand that Sony makes the sensor for the Leica so.
I’m a video pro, and have mostly used Canon and Sony gear…jumping to a Leica Q2 for stills a couple of a years ago. The Leica has wonderful minimalist aesthetic and quality pics…but honestly, the old Canon 5Diii is more of a workhorse for me. I’ve looked on with wonder at Sony still cams, but I like minimalism…I equate Sony with Toyota vs Canon as a Honda. The Leica I suppose is a Landrover😂! Fuji’s x100VI is the wild card. But my heart belongs to Leica.
I think Leica's commercial team has done a great job of making the buyers of their cameras feel like real photographers. You see them, just like iPhone buyers, violently justifying all the shortcomings of these antique devices. No wonder, considering the top price they paid for it. This video is another great example of that.
Thanks for comparing these two cameras. Like you, I find that the user experience is the key difference. I’ve been shooting the Q2 for a while and loving it. My A7CR is a great addition (with Sony’s 28mm f2) but one camera cannot replace the other. Let’s not forget that the Q2/Q3 also shoot macro at a very close distance, something that Sony’s 28mm cannot do.
these cameras use the same sensor, so the difference is the lens. btw the pattern on the dress ist caused by the interference between the sensor grid and the screen grid. this can happen like a moire.❤
Great video Alex. There are cameras out there than can equal the image quality, but never give you that Leica feeling. Shooting a Leica is an experience in itself. I also live in the Magic City.
I love Sony's menu I love Sony's design I love Sony's functionality I love everything about Sony The only thing that i need is a more compact 28mm lens
Thank you for the video. I really appreciate it and the time you took to make it. That said . . . You cannot use presets you made for a Sony sensor and expect them to work the same way on a Leica sensor. It just won't work right. That said, you had me at "you can reproduce the same imagine with any camera system" & "it's all about the experience".
Results may be similar but the how you get the photo may not be the same. Camera style, shooting experience, portability, user interface. You can take a truck or use a van. You’re still getting to the destination. One may be better than the other technically such as better AF or tracking versus leaf shutter for flash sync up to 1/2000 or the beautiful monochrome JPEG profile but the unique differences will cater to the customers specific needs.
As an A7CR owner, I'm thinking about getting that Viltrox lens and super glueing it to my Sony so I can have that Leica experience. I just haven't figured out how to remove that pesky grip from my Sony.😁
Thanks, Alex, well done. Like you, I own the A7CR and just bought the Q3; the jury is still out. I think a better comparison might have been to use the A7CR with the Sony 35mm F1.4 G-Master lens. I know there is a difference in focal length (for which you could compensate by adjusting your tripod location), but the 35mm is a superior lens to the 28 you were using, and is probably one of Sony's best lenses. Also, it brings the total package price close to that of the Q3. However, the 35mm adds quite a bit of size and weight to the A7CR, more than the 28 does.
My perspective is if the Viltrox lens can keep up any GM lens from Sony will do better. The trade off being the size. Sony is truly making the best lenses in the market right now.
You can also easily adapt Leica glass on the Sony, which improves the a7CR’s experience a tad…and could let you put a barn burner like a real Summicron 28mm (the new version is supposed to be incredible) or heck even an $8k Summilux 28mm on the camera.
Leica has an incredible coolness factor. But you have to be able to swap lenses when the occasions arise. You simply need both the Q3 as well as the a7CR or a7R.
I think adding your preset doesn't math out. Each camera will have internal base settings regardless of white balance. So maybe one w out settings. Presets on more internal software will always show this. The sony image of the sphere shows that. Contrast and depth were higher.
There's a huge difference in the images. Just look at the concrete of the wall in the first show where your wife is sitting on the wall. No comparrison. I'm really suprised the Leica is weak in the corners. I haven't seen that before on the Q3. Is it possible that's just your camera? There really is a big difference in tonality, microcontrast and color. I really think the Q3 is much better. But not 3 grand better. And to have the interchangeable lens closes the deal. In my opinion that makes the Sony worth 3k more than the Leica. That's a lot of money for a red dot.
Great vid - excellent comparison and with a few eye openers!!! In your conlusion, I would add that the other benefit of the sony interchangeble lens system would be to consider a zoom lens to cover the same range as say the three primes you carried. Zooms are now knocking on the door of primes in the IQ department and when travelling you can have the same range but only one lens
Viltrox is killing it. All the major players manufacturering lenses should start being seriously a bit concerned. I have several Viltrox lenses on my Fujifikm X-H2 and the IQ from them is simply shocking. Price/performance is no contest and performance period is pretty much up there as well.
I think I want to stay with interchangeable lenses. I do have the TechArt M to E mount AF adapter which I currently use with Zuiko and F-mount lenses on my infrared converted camera, but I could start to add M-mount lenses and have Leica lenses on my A7CR with AF (including Eye AF).
A few observations 1) the 28 1.7 is what I would call a ghetto summilux. It renders nothing like any of the M summilux, where you will actually have the Leica look. I don’t get the Leica look often with the Q, like I would get with the M. 2)most of your photos are not typical of how most people would use a Leica Q, just random structures at Disney. For me, the Q shines in golden hour landscapes, the street, the dark cafes, the beaches of Hawaii, popping bright colors. Basically, if you shoot a Leica like a Sony, then the results will look like Sony. I have seen amazing shots you took in Italy, those are how you come to appreciate Leica.
I should fly to Italy for a proper comparison next time 🤣 all jokes aside, I find it hard to do a real world comparison and match perfect compositions. Usually keep it to static subjects with a tripod to make it as objective as possible.
@@looppp most people buy cameras to capture photos and “looks”. I have shot Nikon, Sony, Canon, Leica, and Hasselblad. I love all their looks in different ways. The Leica enthusiasts love the Leica looks for sharp focus, gradual subtle drop off, and creamy bokeh. I also shoot R5 and 50 1.2 for example, the sharpness is great, the fall off is so so, and the bokeh is not as smooth. Leica tends to have very flattering way of rendering skin tones as well. When I adapt the Leica M lens to Canon RF I get a look that is completely different than my Canon lenses.
@@albertma5467"you have to go to Italy to get the Leica look" is the type of Leica obnoxious snobbery cope that you expect from Leica owners 💀💀💀 I can't believe you typed this with a straight face
I sold my Leica Q2 for the Sony and a 35 1.4 gm. Not exactly a cheap setup either, but the image quality is easily on par. The fact I can add top tier lenses to this system for 1-1.5k vs Leicas 3-10k is awesome. I almost feel like GM glass is cheap!! 😂
So what you're saying is that if I bump up the contrast a little I get the Leica look and save $3k. The lens coatings on the Leica are pretty amazing, but if I can recreate some of the look in post I'm game. I was also super surprised to see the Sony warmer than the Leica. My experience with Sony in the past was a blue/magenta hue in skin tones but the Leica has more.
I would really like to thank you for putting this together. My wife recently bought a Sony and I was a little depressed about it thinking I didn't like Sony colors. I like them better than Leica and that's pretty amazing to say. I may get a complimentary body now and take one set of lenses when we travel.
This is very interesting. You literally went on for 30 seconds about how the Sony is better at taking pictures in every single way .... then you do the leica puff piece that says "but it's part of the experience to have to try harder to get a good shot" like that's a good thing :D
Thanks for the video. I know there isn’t a high quality 28mm for Sony but would have like seen you set the Leica Q3 up to change its crop-to-zoom to 35mm or 50mm and then used the Sony 35/1.4 or 50/1.4 GM and do an image quality comparison at those focal lengths. Or possibly use an M mount adapter on the Sony and a Leica Summilux-M 28 f/1.4 ASPH lens. Those comparisons would have been nice. I also own many Sony cameras and lenses and just picked up the A7CR. Maybe this will push Sony to introduce a 28mm G or GM lens. Take care.
I think the A7IV is also a contender that is almost as compact but with more external controls. The difference in resolution is surely the least significant difference in practice. Examining DNG raw files is not a good comparison when utilised, raw images will be processed either in camera for a corrected jpeg or in post processing. High ISO and low light, the Sony beats the Leica hands down.
The one thing that made me go for the Q3, despite the better autofocus on the Sony camera, is the simple fact that the Leica is the nicer shooting experience. The tilt screen is much more useful than the cheap flippy we got on the a7cR.The EVF/back screen are miles ahead, the a7cR cheaped out on these, and it makes the shooting experience subpar. There's also the menu system that doesn't feel right on the Sony during daily use. I do photography because I enjoy the process as much as the result, and the Sony completely fails on the process part.
Great review, been waiting for this review for a while. Just opted for the a7cr, due to its flexibility. Looking forward to shooting with it. I wonder if the a7cr should be compared more to the m11. It seems quite a few Q2/3 users migrate to the M11. Is this because it offers the lens change ability. Would love to have both but for me cost is factor. But I will own a leica at some point, because it’s always nice to experience a Ferrari in our lifetime 👌🙂
I am sure the image quality can be matched but the experience of the M system is drastically different. Using a rangefinder and not dealing with screens truly takes you back to the basics.
In digital photography it is the sensor+lens+processing that creates the image. The sensor seems the same & sony as a digital company is doing a lot of R&D so the ibis + processing is increasing. The leica has a fixed lens & the sony acr or the sont ar5 is interchangeable. Personally I would not waste a 61mp sensor on just using a fixed focal lens. The sony has a huge eco system of lens including 3rd party and many of these lenses would outperform the leica. Leica was a pioneering company during the film era but now one pays for the hype. For me the other extras that determine camera choice are also screen/EVf/ibis & how well one can use AF & MF lenses.
Great comparison, so I liked and subbed. Much to like about Leica. I'm a sucker for excellent engineering that 'just works'. I know two Leica users and I almost daren't pick one up because I suspect I would appreciate that 'feel' and connection and thus be tempted to splurge on one. Perhaps it's about 'good' branding? Where the intangible qualities of the name, reputation, history, associations etc adds something greater than the sum of the physical parts. That said, I'm a very satisfied Sony shooter nowadays and have nothing to complain about. Taking everything into account I'm now minded to buy an a7Rv which for a small increase in size/weight vs a7RC delivers better ergo, screen, EVF, full size HDMI etc. My decision (99% decided) partly recognises that I was always pretty cra* at travelling light. With lots of brilliant Sony GM and G glass to pick from it seems hard to travel with just a single prime! But, for occasional one-day walk about 'street' shoots, I have been known to just use a single lens - GM 35mm f1.4 on my a7iv (with cage removed), perhaps the nearest I can manage to minimalism. I was a long term Nikon shooter (28 yrs, from film to digital - lovely ergo, reputation, terrific glass, 100+ year history etc) but I jumped to Sony after wanting to go mirrorless (seemed logical back in 2018) and being underwhelmed by the then over-hyped Z-mount and disappointing Nikon Z6 and Z7 cameras launched Q4'18, with very limited lens choices in Z mount. I knew adapting F-mount glass was sub optimal, so sold 15+ Nikkor lenses, several digital DSLR bodies and just kept two F3 and F5 bodies with manual 50/135mm lenses as nostalgia ornaments. I bought a Sony a7Riii, 4 lenses and went travelling to Patagonia on a 6-week trip end Q4'18. I loved my Nikons and tried to love my Sony kit, but the emotional connection still isn't quite there, at least not in the same way. Sony makes terrific 'machines' that do what I want pretty well. My now extensive Sony kit 15+ lenses and 3 bodies is arguably a lot better than Nikon kit. I'm not disappointed in my decision to switch - it was the right thing for me. Sony is so much better taking an overall and logical perspective. I recently bought an absolutely fantastic a9iii to add to my current FX3 and a7iv (other bodies sold). I feel an a7CR would be my compact of choice but I'm still hesitating (inferior ergo). The 'bolt-on' grip improves ergo but then makes body very similar to an a7Rv (size/weight etc but without other benefits). I previously owned an a7Riii which I upgraded to an a7Riv and felt that 61 Mp was too much for many situations, so often shot on my original a9 as a7Riv didn't have any option to save smaller files bar switching to APS-C mode. I had intended buying an a1, but will now wait for a mkii (possibly end 2025)? Now that pricing is dropping, the increment to an a7Rv vs a7CR is less, so I'm thinking of trading in my 3 year old a7iv for it's hi-res a7Rv sibling. Probably best to sell my a7iv before an a7v drops (maybe in next 2-6 months?) as I can't easily justify holding 4 Sony bodies at any one time.
In my opinion, the real question is: Is the Leica better than the Sony in proportion to the difference of their price? Is the Q3 twice as good as the A7CR? I would say no.
This is a really ill-advised way to compare things in general. More things go into a price than strict output. Because by that logic, everyone should just have an A6000 because even an A7IV isn't 4x better than that, etc. Its a slippery slope.
Interesting video man. I shoot an A7CR and often just carry a single lens, and I feel very similar to how I feel when I carry one of my fixed lens cameras. I’ve been moving more and more towards my Sony though, because the tech is just so smooth and the camera is such an amazing tool.
If the Q3 is digitally distorting images in raw, then how could you possibly recommend it at sub 6k. It completely defeats the purpose of having that beautiful 28mm Summilux Lens. All in all, the A7CR with multiple lenses is just so much better a deal than the Leica. The Q3 is a special camera but a clearly a less effective tool than than the A7CR especially with its focus issues. In all honesty, the Q3 would be a cheaper camera than the A7CR if it didn't have that red Leica branding.
Sony's website states it is made from magnesium (ultralight metal alloy), not composite; and is fully weather sealed (dust and moisture sealed is the Sony wording). The Sony is smaller and lighter then the Leica. The Leica is heavy; weight is not measure of build quality, or ergonomics.
Hmm... the experience of connecting with the machine? If Sony is sharper, faster, and offers interchangeable lenses, why choose Leica? It’s probably similar to buying an LV bag.
The only true way to compare both cameras is to take each out for a test drive - just like a real car. Also why didn’t you use a Sony lens with a comparable focal length? Anyway I have the CR and I can’t imagine there could be any improvement (except perhaps the viewfinder). With my 50mm f/1.4 lens it’s just magical. Thanks for your review, very nicely done!
Leica is more fun to use (for me). That's what matters for me. I still want to see your SL2-S Silver Edition review... and give a shout-out to your Rolex.
Hi Alex, love the video and the channel. Question for you - do you find the Leica blows highlights much quicker than the Sony? I have a Q2 and Sony A7R3, and i have never had to underexpose an image more than I have with the Leica. I think the RAW files are amazing, but require the most post processing out of any camera I have ever used. I would love to hear your thoughts
I jumped back and forth because I am familiar with both cameras. Did I miss any mentioning of the software? Sony's horrible software design vs. Leica's clean and intuitive one.
Great comparison and great video! Love it! Been shooting with my original A7C and wanted to upgrade to a higher resolution camera. Do you think the A7CR is worth it? As I got a few prime lenses, Leica is discarded. Lmk! Cheers
How can I tell which photos are from which camera in the samples? There are just several images in a row without anyway that I can tell which is which? Thanks for your videos!
Pretty sure it is a magnesium body on the sony. There are advantages on both models but i think at this price range tje Sony is more flexible. As images are raw they can always be tweaked.
have the Q3 and love it, would never change it for the Sony, the Viltrox is way too large to be compared :D ). Yet I think my Sigma FPL needs to go and make space for a A7cr :D
The Leica spare battery is currently $90 more than the Sony spare battery, so the cost difference immediately gets even worse for anyone who wants a spare. Some BIG thing that rarely gets discussed (hint, hint) is depreciation. Perhaps the Leica will depreciate more slowly over the long term than the a7cr? I don't know; but I'm very curious. I suspect that the a7cr will be nearly worthless in ten years for anyone who uses it that long. A beat-up Q3 after ten years? I think it will still have some portion of its purchase price in its resale value, and that resale value may actually be flat for a very long time after ten years. The 8 1/2 year old Leica Q is currently being sold "used" for more than $2500.
Nice work! One of the big advantages of the Q system for me is the app.. It is 1000x easier to share/edit/post photos (when mobile) with the Leica system
You are correct the Sony is a workhorse, the Leica a thoroughbred, a thing of beauty, a joy to behold, the name on the top plate, History, the Red Dot, German Precision, even the bloody box it comes in is beautiful, enough said lol.
The Leica has a significantly better design and a higher quality housing. The 7CR has a significantly better price. The Leica gives a special feeling. The 7CR can change lenses. Image quality no real differences. You pay the $3000 for the design, workmanship and the Leica name but not for the image.
Don’t forget a good equivalent lens with that Sony body takes the price closer…. But yes, both have similar image quality. But there are other things that are more important than mega pixels and that varies for every one.
For the price of the Leica you can get the Sony A7CR and a full set of cinema or prime lenses. The build, electronics and tech are also far superior on the Sony. Only materialistic fools who likes to be seen with luxury items like the "Leica" brand would choose the Leica.
I JUST bought the Leica Q2, got a great deal on it. Gorgeous photos but I primarily want it for epic shots of my fast moving toddler. Would you recommend me selling the Leica and get this A7CR? I noticed the autofocus is not great in the A2… thoughts??!!!
Sony for the win. Lieca don't care that they are behind in technology because people are still buying these cameras . If you like it, buy it. After I put a GM lens on the A7CR Boom $6000 kit.😮
Leica is built for people to take control of exposure and focus... But it's for old slow people? As opposed to the brand automating everything to such a degree half their users can't shoot without the camera doing it for them? Oooo kkkkk
@@ABarrera I got my Q2 Very lightly used for USD 3250 (Bargain price 🤣), After seeing so many Q3 reviews including your awesome review which has lifestyle photos, it made a strong case for me not to upgrade to Q3. Q2 indeed a great camera and losing just 13 Megapixels compared to Q3 makes no major impact. Plus I can buy $3k Sony interchangeable setup. So with the Cost of Q3, now I will have Leica Q2 + Sony A7Cr + Lens......
@@ABarrera I understand it becomes close to Leica Q2 through post processing edits. I really don’t like straight jpegs coming from Sony camera and they are nowhere close to Leica. Do you have in camera settings that can emulate Leica Q3 colors. I don’t have time doing post processing through Raw. Your viewers will be very happy if you share in camera settings so that straight jpegs coming from A7CR can be useful. Right now AC7CR produces awful jpegs. Please guide us. Thanks.
I knew which lens was which before you revealed because I knew the Leica is wider. With that said the Viltrox looked aesthetically much more pleasing while the Leica came off too clinical. With that said I have seen some great shots with the Q3 so it's not like this is some definitive thing. Now here's the real catch. You can duplicate all of this dirt cheap that Viltrox and a used Sony A7R III for a fraction of the price. The 42.5MP sensor in that is fantastic and will out perform the 61mp at ISO 6400.
I own a q3. Here are my 2 things what bothers me. I rely heavily on the evf. On the 7 it’s a low res one. But on the q3 you have a beautiful evf BUT trying to use the evf and moving your af-field around is a pain in the bud. If the 7 has a better evf then its(for me) a no brainer: sell the leica and buy a sony
The Q3 has a higher resolution EVF and from that perspective it is better. On the other hand, if you use continuous AF for some reason the quality drops on the Q3.
Just came back from our Europe trip. I just used my Q3 and left my A7R5 in the hotel room in the end. Loved using it but if I had to choose one I would take the Sony.
Great comparison…. you can also just bring one lens with you on the trip and save yourself $3k 😊 The beauty of the world we now live in is that the archaic vestiges of luxury no longer matter. Boomers and some of us older millennials still buy into this nonsense. I am guilty of it myself. I’ve been waiting on Leica Q3 for 8 months and now with A7cII coming out, I am going to be cancelling my Q3 pre-orders at 5 different stores. Sad. I know.
If you put a manual adapted Leica/Voigtlander lens on the Sony with a Voigtlander close focus E-to-M adapter, you get to move as slow as you want. No one has to put an automatic, focus-by-wire lens on a camera. You can put manual and vintage lenses on them just fine. And that changes the final conclusion a bit. If you really want to move slow, on any system put a manual lens on it. Yet even with zone focusing, it's only slow until you have practice. These A7C series Sonys are getting really close to the best parts of the Leica experience, slow deliberate shooting and all (if you want that).
Good comparison. I really appreciate being able to download your original raw files, thanks a lot!
So much for the Leica look. It's shocking how well the Viltrox Lens performed on the Sony. I don't prefer either system as I mainly shoot Nikon, but that A7CRII looks tempting. Also, I'm a 35mm guy so the Leica would not work for me.
The Leica look has nothing to do with the sensor and everything to do with their lenses. That being said, I switched from Leica to the AC7r and the images are equally as beautiful with my new 35 1.4 and the autofocus is insane.
@@SunshineHB same! im shooting with the same setup as you and I don't see how the image quality could get any better. The files are just beautiful
35 1.4 GM?
I just decided to sell my Q3. Hi Alex, I am the big fan of your channel. I am also Leica and Sony user. I have experience with Leica from M9, M10, SL2-S and now M11. I bought Q3 as my first Q. And I am quite disappointed with Q3. I had experience taking photo with Summicron 28mm f2 ASPH so I can compare both apple to apple. In my opinion I do not get Leica Look from Q3 at all. What I get from Q3 is not different to Sony. And Sony has much better auto focus and versatility. So I see no point to keep $7,000 camera when I can get camera giving similar image quality and 1/3 of the price. So I decide to sell Q3 and get A7Cii. When I want compactness and auto focus, I take A7Cii not my M11. I am very happy with A7Cii. Especially when I put my Leica M lenses with A7Cii, I get very good image quality. Thank you for your video to confirm my thoughts.
Using the M really sets the Leica apart from anything else in the market. The M11 paired with the Sony a7CR is the ultimate combo.
I bought an M11 but am a Sony shooter professionally for weddings . After comparing the images of my Sony A1 , A7iv against the m11 I returned the leica and bought an A7cii as my little more compact camera . I’ve been extremely happy since! I do shoot a leica mp for nostalgia/leica feel but digitally shooting range finder isn’t it for me . I also used a friends Q3 and the camera feels slow compared to any Sony which no one ever talks about in reviews . I love your videos btw!!
Also long time M user and CR owner. The CR EVF is not great, but for travel the CR is superb. I have several fine E mount lenses and have learned to mount one lens. A real advantage of the Sony is the ability to use a zoom. The 28-60 is very small/light and great for daylight work. If I want to replicate the Leica experience I put on a Zony 35. I don’t think that a IQ -as hyped as it is is- a real M type experience. Essentially the Leica marketing department has created an image maker for those desire the red dot.
Great comparison! I have both cameras and I love them both for what they are and the experience they offer.
The strong connection to the camera and also the slowed down process of the Leica combined with a unique feel make it my “always with me”. I use the Sony as a “rational” option when I need versatility (different focal lengths).
The advantage of both packages? I don't have to worry about image quality. Because of the extremely high resolution, I also have the opportunity to play with the image composition in post-processing.
Honestly, if you want to shoot Leica buy an M for the authentic experience, ie. rangefinder and manual focus otherwise Sony cannot be beat for their bodies/value and optics far as full frame cameras are concerned. Leica M9/M10 owner here.
I own both and the Q3 is a Limited Experience.. nice images but I can shoot all day with a couple of lenses and my A7cR, and still get relatively the same image quality. But if I had an M11, it would be the mashup of both these cameras, a great idea looking for financing!
Great and fun comparison Alex. This kit would be baller for street photos and travel photography! I love that you mentioned that options affect the simplicity of using the camera because now you’re focused on what lenses you’re bringing along. That’s part of the reason I picked up a Ricoh gr iiix to compliment my Q2 and I don’t have to buy or bring lenses.
Limitations really force creativity. Excited to see what you do with the GR
I went for the A7CR, and used the savings for a Voigtlander APO lens
I recently moved to Leica Q3 from using a variety of Sony cameras. I have no doubt that the new Sony A7CR shoots fantastic images - but I always disliked the Sony’s menu layout and I always ended up putting it in the most auto setting so that I didn’t have to deal with the Sony’s menu system. Leica is a lot easier to handle in that regard. Now, is this a reason that’s worth paying an extra £3,000? Probably not but it’s something that’s not too problematic for me, and the smaller overall package is something that was important for me too. And no, I never changed lenses with the Sony cameras I had, I was just after a convenient point and shoot that was easy to carry and gave great images.
Great video,thank you. Thanks for not speed talking thru it. You made very understandable. BTW I bought the Sony 😊
Thinking of the Q3 but this is the review I`ve been waiting for. Used Leica for 25 years and still do. Currently film and digital M`s a CL and an SL2.Love the brand but not the AF system so still wary of that when considering the Q3. I was unaware of this Sony model and it seems to be more flexible as regards lenses (obviously) and better af when coupled with a Sony lens. I`m not minded to buy it as yet but I def will not be buying a Q3 now because you have demonstrated that the Sony ,at least for me ,offers a better package .Thank you .
I should have added that I`ve used Sony bodies in the past ... my only issue with them was that the grip was always too small .Uncomfortably so and the menu system I found dreadful Other than that they did the job. For now I`ll stick with my M`s but if I need a compact it seems this Sony body is worth considering .
Been a Leica shooter for many years, M, S, SL, Q, T. Waited for a Q with 40/50mm lens, when Sony announced the a7cr it not only is replacing my Q the M is also being sold. Leica electronics are sadly poor, Sony is making spectacular lenses, the 24/40/50 f2.5 are small yet beautiful IQ lenses. Leica can not compete on autofocus, and Sony can not compete on the Leica simplicity in controls and menu. Take your pick. As a photographer looking for images primarily Sony wins for me, although I will miss the fun of owning a Leica, there is a beauty to their designs and quality that gives a great deal of haptic pleasure, not unlike driving a great sports car as pointed out.
True. Sony has a nightmare menu. But for this type of shooting I think ya can set it and leave it. I understand that Sony makes the sensor for the Leica so.
I’m a video pro, and have mostly used Canon and Sony gear…jumping to a Leica Q2 for stills a couple of a years ago. The Leica has wonderful minimalist aesthetic and quality pics…but honestly, the old Canon 5Diii is more of a workhorse for me. I’ve looked on with wonder at Sony still cams, but I like minimalism…I equate Sony with Toyota vs Canon as a Honda. The Leica I suppose is a Landrover😂! Fuji’s x100VI is the wild card. But my heart belongs to Leica.
I think Leica's commercial team has done a great job of making the buyers of their cameras feel like real photographers. You see them, just like iPhone buyers, violently justifying all the shortcomings of these antique devices. No wonder, considering the top price they paid for it. This video is another great example of that.
Hope this will help Q3 be more available now
Great review! By by the end of it I felt like this review is more of Viltrox vs Leica lenses 😂
Thanks for comparing these two cameras. Like you, I find that the user experience is the key difference. I’ve been shooting the Q2 for a while and loving it. My A7CR is a great addition (with Sony’s 28mm f2) but one camera cannot replace the other. Let’s not forget that the Q2/Q3 also shoot macro at a very close distance, something that Sony’s 28mm cannot do.
these cameras use the same sensor, so the difference is the lens. btw the pattern on the dress ist caused by the interference between the sensor grid and the screen grid. this can happen like a moire.❤
Great video Alex. There are cameras out there than can equal the image quality, but never give you that Leica feeling. Shooting a Leica is an experience in itself. I also live in the Magic City.
Like that feeling of looking at your images just to realize they're out of focus make the ones in focus " feel" that much more "special" 😂
I love Sony's menu
I love Sony's design
I love Sony's functionality
I love everything about Sony
The only thing that i need is a more compact 28mm lens
Just get the 24mm G compact and crop a little 😂
I have both and love both The end 📷❤️
Thank you for the video. I really appreciate it and the time you took to make it. That said . . . You cannot use presets you made for a Sony sensor and expect them to work the same way on a Leica sensor. It just won't work right. That said, you had me at "you can reproduce the same imagine with any camera system" & "it's all about the experience".
Results may be similar but the how you get the photo may not be the same. Camera style, shooting experience, portability, user interface. You can take a truck or use a van. You’re still getting to the destination. One may be better than the other technically such as better AF or tracking versus leaf shutter for flash sync up to 1/2000 or the beautiful monochrome JPEG profile but the unique differences will cater to the customers specific needs.
Exactly, you can’t replicate shooting with Leica experience on a Sony camera
Since the leica is more a 26 wouldn't the 24mm have been a better choice?
Very underrated channel!
As an A7CR owner, I'm thinking about getting that Viltrox lens and super glueing it to my Sony so I can have that Leica experience. I just haven't figured out how to remove that pesky grip from my Sony.😁
Thanks, Alex, well done. Like you, I own the A7CR and just bought the Q3; the jury is still out. I think a better comparison might have been to use the A7CR with the Sony 35mm F1.4 G-Master lens. I know there is a difference in focal length (for which you could compensate by adjusting your tripod location), but the 35mm is a superior lens to the 28 you were using, and is probably one of Sony's best lenses. Also, it brings the total package price close to that of the Q3. However, the 35mm adds quite a bit of size and weight to the A7CR, more than the 28 does.
My perspective is if the Viltrox lens can keep up any GM lens from Sony will do better. The trade off being the size. Sony is truly making the best lenses in the market right now.
You can also easily adapt Leica glass on the Sony, which improves the a7CR’s experience a tad…and could let you put a barn burner like a real Summicron 28mm (the new version is supposed to be incredible) or heck even an $8k Summilux 28mm on the camera.
This is a good point, you can turn the a7CR into an M camera with an electronic viewfinder.
@@ABarrera exactly! Just wish it was a higher res viewfinder haha
@@ABarrera ...and with the Techart LM-EA9 adapter you even get AF with the 28 Summicron. But the Sony does not provide 8K video.
Leica has an incredible coolness factor. But you have to be able to swap lenses when the occasions arise. You simply need both the Q3 as well as the a7CR or a7R.
I think adding your preset doesn't math out. Each camera will have internal base settings regardless of white balance. So maybe one w out settings. Presets on more internal software will always show this. The sony image of the sphere shows that. Contrast and depth were higher.
There's a huge difference in the images. Just look at the concrete of the wall in the first show where your wife is sitting on the wall. No comparrison. I'm really suprised the Leica is weak in the corners. I haven't seen that before on the Q3. Is it possible that's just your camera? There really is a big difference in tonality, microcontrast and color. I really think the Q3 is much better. But not 3 grand better. And to have the interchangeable lens closes the deal. In my opinion that makes the Sony worth 3k more than the Leica. That's a lot of money for a red dot.
actually i noticed the differences ...the blacks on the leica is deeper ....iv tried with the sony a7iv and my q3 gets darker blacks
I agree, the rendering of the shadows is much deeper imo
Great vid - excellent comparison and with a few eye openers!!! In your conlusion, I would add that the other benefit of the sony interchangeble lens system would be to consider a zoom lens to cover the same range as say the three primes you carried. Zooms are now knocking on the door of primes in the IQ department and when travelling you can have the same range but only one lens
Viltrox is killing it. All the major players manufacturering lenses should start being seriously a bit concerned. I have several Viltrox lenses on my Fujifikm X-H2 and the IQ from them is simply shocking. Price/performance is no contest and performance period is pretty much up there as well.
I think I want to stay with interchangeable lenses. I do have the TechArt M to E mount AF adapter which I currently use with Zuiko and F-mount lenses on my infrared converted camera, but I could start to add M-mount lenses and have Leica lenses on my A7CR with AF (including Eye AF).
Imo the rendering of the shadows seems much deeper than the sony
Try the Q3 with action and moving people ... the AF is still years behind Sony. A joke for 6.000 USD.
A few observations 1) the 28 1.7 is what I would call a ghetto summilux. It renders nothing like any of the M summilux, where you will actually have the Leica look. I don’t get the Leica look often with the Q, like I would get with the M. 2)most of your photos are not typical of how most people would use a Leica Q, just random structures at Disney. For me, the Q shines in golden hour landscapes, the street, the dark cafes, the beaches of Hawaii, popping bright colors. Basically, if you shoot a Leica like a Sony, then the results will look like Sony. I have seen amazing shots you took in Italy, those are how you come to appreciate Leica.
I should fly to Italy for a proper comparison next time 🤣 all jokes aside, I find it hard to do a real world comparison and match perfect compositions. Usually keep it to static subjects with a tripod to make it as objective as possible.
@@looppp most people buy cameras to capture photos and “looks”. I have shot Nikon, Sony, Canon, Leica, and Hasselblad. I love all their looks in different ways. The Leica enthusiasts love the Leica looks for sharp focus, gradual subtle drop off, and creamy bokeh. I also shoot R5 and 50 1.2 for example, the sharpness is great, the fall off is so so, and the bokeh is not as smooth. Leica tends to have very flattering way of rendering skin tones as well. When I adapt the Leica M lens to Canon RF I get a look that is completely different than my Canon lenses.
@@albertma5467"you have to go to Italy to get the Leica look" is the type of Leica obnoxious snobbery cope that you expect from Leica owners 💀💀💀 I can't believe you typed this with a straight face
The leica image sharpness isnt smearing its.... "Character" 😆
I sold my Leica Q2 for the Sony and a 35 1.4 gm. Not exactly a cheap setup either, but the image quality is easily on par. The fact I can add top tier lenses to this system for 1-1.5k vs Leicas 3-10k is awesome. I almost feel like GM glass is cheap!! 😂
So what you're saying is that if I bump up the contrast a little I get the Leica look and save $3k. The lens coatings on the Leica are pretty amazing, but if I can recreate some of the look in post I'm game. I was also super surprised to see the Sony warmer than the Leica. My experience with Sony in the past was a blue/magenta hue in skin tones but the Leica has more.
I would really like to thank you for putting this together. My wife recently bought a Sony and I was a little depressed about it thinking I didn't like Sony colors. I like them better than Leica and that's pretty amazing to say. I may get a complimentary body now and take one set of lenses when we travel.
The comparison I needed, I am going with the Sony now, maybe with the 35mm GM.
This is very interesting. You literally went on for 30 seconds about how the Sony is better at taking pictures in every single way .... then you do the leica puff piece that says "but it's part of the experience to have to try harder to get a good shot" like that's a good thing :D
Thanks for the video. I know there isn’t a high quality 28mm for Sony but would have like seen you set the Leica Q3 up to change its crop-to-zoom to 35mm or 50mm and then used the Sony 35/1.4 or 50/1.4 GM and do an image quality comparison at those focal lengths. Or possibly use an M mount adapter on the Sony and a Leica Summilux-M 28 f/1.4 ASPH lens. Those comparisons would have been nice. I also own many Sony cameras and lenses and just picked up the A7CR. Maybe this will push Sony to introduce a 28mm G or GM lens. Take care.
I believe the G Master glass is the best in the market right now. Doing that comparison would have been one sided.
@@ABarrera Thank you for your reply. I guess the Q3’s lens while nice is not Leica’s best so you are probably right about comparing its 28mm to a GM.
Good job, thank you very very much.
I think the A7IV is also a contender that is almost as compact but with more external controls. The difference in resolution is surely the least significant difference in practice. Examining DNG raw files is not a good comparison when utilised, raw images will be processed either in camera for a corrected jpeg or in post processing. High ISO and low light, the Sony beats the Leica hands down.
The one thing that made me go for the Q3, despite the better autofocus on the Sony camera, is the simple fact that the Leica is the nicer shooting experience.
The tilt screen is much more useful than the cheap flippy we got on the a7cR.The EVF/back screen are miles ahead, the a7cR cheaped out on these, and it makes the shooting experience subpar. There's also the menu system that doesn't feel right on the Sony during daily use.
I do photography because I enjoy the process as much as the result, and the Sony completely fails on the process part.
Great review, been waiting for this review for a while. Just opted for the a7cr, due to its flexibility. Looking forward to shooting with it. I wonder if the a7cr should be compared more to the m11. It seems quite a few Q2/3 users migrate to the M11. Is this because it offers the lens change ability. Would love to have both but for me cost is factor. But I will own a leica at some point, because it’s always nice to experience a Ferrari in our lifetime 👌🙂
I am sure the image quality can be matched but the experience of the M system is drastically different. Using a rangefinder and not dealing with screens truly takes you back to the basics.
@@ABarrera That`s why I still stick with that model .Probably an age thing too :)
for me, the a7cr is the greatest camera ever made.....
Wow!
It's a good camera but that EVF and LCD quality should be illegal for a camera that costs $3000
In digital photography it is the sensor+lens+processing that creates the image. The sensor seems the same & sony as a digital company is doing a lot of R&D so the ibis + processing is increasing. The leica has a fixed lens & the sony acr or the sont ar5 is interchangeable. Personally I would not waste a 61mp sensor on just using a fixed focal lens. The sony has a huge eco system of lens including 3rd party and many of these lenses would outperform the leica. Leica was a pioneering company during the film era but now one pays for the hype. For me the other extras that determine camera choice are also screen/EVf/ibis & how well one can use AF & MF lenses.
Shocking to see that a three hundred dollar Chinese lens is sharper than the Q3. But the Leica will continue to have buyers, just like a LV bag.
Great comparison, so I liked and subbed. Much to like about Leica. I'm a sucker for excellent engineering that 'just works'. I know two Leica users and I almost daren't pick one up because I suspect I would appreciate that 'feel' and connection and thus be tempted to splurge on one. Perhaps it's about 'good' branding? Where the intangible qualities of the name, reputation, history, associations etc adds something greater than the sum of the physical parts. That said, I'm a very satisfied Sony shooter nowadays and have nothing to complain about.
Taking everything into account I'm now minded to buy an a7Rv which for a small increase in size/weight vs a7RC delivers better ergo, screen, EVF, full size HDMI etc. My decision (99% decided) partly recognises that I was always pretty cra* at travelling light. With lots of brilliant Sony GM and G glass to pick from it seems hard to travel with just a single prime! But, for occasional one-day walk about 'street' shoots, I have been known to just use a single lens - GM 35mm f1.4 on my a7iv (with cage removed), perhaps the nearest I can manage to minimalism.
I was a long term Nikon shooter (28 yrs, from film to digital - lovely ergo, reputation, terrific glass, 100+ year history etc) but I jumped to Sony after wanting to go mirrorless (seemed logical back in 2018) and being underwhelmed by the then over-hyped Z-mount and disappointing Nikon Z6 and Z7 cameras launched Q4'18, with very limited lens choices in Z mount. I knew adapting F-mount glass was sub optimal, so sold 15+ Nikkor lenses, several digital DSLR bodies and just kept two F3 and F5 bodies with manual 50/135mm lenses as nostalgia ornaments. I bought a Sony a7Riii, 4 lenses and went travelling to Patagonia on a 6-week trip end Q4'18.
I loved my Nikons and tried to love my Sony kit, but the emotional connection still isn't quite there, at least not in the same way. Sony makes terrific 'machines' that do what I want pretty well. My now extensive Sony kit 15+ lenses and 3 bodies is arguably a lot better than Nikon kit. I'm not disappointed in my decision to switch - it was the right thing for me. Sony is so much better taking an overall and logical perspective. I recently bought an absolutely fantastic a9iii to add to my current FX3 and a7iv (other bodies sold).
I feel an a7CR would be my compact of choice but I'm still hesitating (inferior ergo). The 'bolt-on' grip improves ergo but then makes body very similar to an a7Rv (size/weight etc but without other benefits). I previously owned an a7Riii which I upgraded to an a7Riv and felt that 61 Mp was too much for many situations, so often shot on my original a9 as a7Riv didn't have any option to save smaller files bar switching to APS-C mode. I had intended buying an a1, but will now wait for a mkii (possibly end 2025)? Now that pricing is dropping, the increment to an a7Rv vs a7CR is less, so I'm thinking of trading in my 3 year old a7iv for it's hi-res a7Rv sibling. Probably best to sell my a7iv before an a7v drops (maybe in next 2-6 months?) as I can't easily justify holding 4 Sony bodies at any one time.
Great comparison! TY
Good video I just bought the Sony, nice work also I can appreciate it.
In my opinion, the real question is: Is the Leica better than the Sony in proportion to the difference of their price?
Is the Q3 twice as good as the A7CR?
I would say no.
This is a really ill-advised way to compare things in general. More things go into a price than strict output. Because by that logic, everyone should just have an A6000 because even an A7IV isn't 4x better than that, etc. Its a slippery slope.
Interesting video man. I shoot an A7CR and often just carry a single lens, and I feel very similar to how I feel when I carry one of my fixed lens cameras. I’ve been moving more and more towards my Sony though, because the tech is just so smooth and the camera is such an amazing tool.
Great comparison Alex
If the Q3 is digitally distorting images in raw, then how could you possibly recommend it at sub 6k. It completely defeats the purpose of having that beautiful 28mm Summilux Lens. All in all, the A7CR with multiple lenses is just so much better a deal than the Leica. The Q3 is a special camera but a clearly a less effective tool than than the A7CR especially with its focus issues. In all honesty, the Q3 would be a cheaper camera than the A7CR if it didn't have that red Leica branding.
Sony's website states it is made from magnesium (ultralight metal alloy), not composite; and is fully weather sealed (dust and moisture sealed is the Sony wording).
The Sony is smaller and lighter then the Leica. The Leica is heavy; weight is not measure of build quality, or ergonomics.
Hmm... the experience of connecting with the machine? If Sony is sharper, faster, and offers interchangeable lenses, why choose Leica? It’s probably similar to buying an LV bag.
The only true way to compare both cameras is to take each out for a test drive - just like a real car. Also why didn’t you use a Sony lens with a comparable focal length? Anyway I have the CR and I can’t imagine there could be any improvement (except perhaps the viewfinder). With my 50mm f/1.4 lens it’s just magical. Thanks for your review, very nicely done!
Leica is more fun to use (for me). That's what matters for me.
I still want to see your SL2-S Silver Edition review... and give a shout-out to your Rolex.
Great video. Great cameras.
Hi Alex, love the video and the channel. Question for you - do you find the Leica blows highlights much quicker than the Sony? I have a Q2 and Sony A7R3, and i have never had to underexpose an image more than I have with the Leica. I think the RAW files are amazing, but require the most post processing out of any camera I have ever used. I would love to hear your thoughts
The Leica Q2 did blow the highlights pretty quickly. It’s much better on the Q3.
I wish you also would have added using the Sony 24mm f1.4. Maybe next time. Good video thank you
The Sony GM is better than the Viltrox, with that being said it will outperform the Q3.
I jumped back and forth because I am familiar with both cameras. Did I miss any mentioning of the software? Sony's horrible software design vs. Leica's clean and intuitive one.
No because h was talking about the photos not emotional attachment to the equipment
Great comparison and great video! Love it! Been shooting with my original A7C and wanted to upgrade to a higher resolution camera. Do you think the A7CR is worth it? As I got a few prime lenses, Leica is discarded. Lmk! Cheers
I am loving the a7CR! The 61mp is really awesome and the flexibility to shoot smaller when you dont need it is great.
How can I tell which photos are from which camera in the samples? There are just several images in a row without anyway that I can tell which is which? Thanks for your videos!
Pretty sure it is a magnesium body on the sony. There are advantages on both models but i think at this price range tje Sony is more flexible. As images are raw they can always be tweaked.
I have one. The Sony is full magnesium body!😉
Excellent video, the Sony rx10 mk4 is a great fixed lens camera too
have the Q3 and love it, would never change it for the Sony, the Viltrox is way too large to be compared :D ). Yet I think my Sigma FPL needs to go and make space for a A7cr :D
The Leica spare battery is currently $90 more than the Sony spare battery, so the cost difference immediately gets even worse for anyone who wants a spare. Some BIG thing that rarely gets discussed (hint, hint) is depreciation. Perhaps the Leica will depreciate more slowly over the long term than the a7cr? I don't know; but I'm very curious. I suspect that the a7cr will be nearly worthless in ten years for anyone who uses it that long. A beat-up Q3 after ten years? I think it will still have some portion of its purchase price in its resale value, and that resale value may actually be flat for a very long time after ten years. The 8 1/2 year old Leica Q is currently being sold "used" for more than $2500.
What was the weight of each setup ?
Nice work! One of the big advantages of the Q system for me is the app.. It is 1000x easier to share/edit/post photos (when mobile) with the Leica system
Aren't 1.7 and 1.8 slightly different approximate ways of saying exactly the same thing - the square root of 3?
You are correct the Sony is a workhorse, the Leica a thoroughbred, a thing of beauty, a joy to behold, the name on the top plate, History, the Red Dot, German Precision, even the bloody box it comes in is beautiful, enough said lol.
That's all in your mind.
@@86BBUB Nope it's real, ask anyone who has used one, there really is something special about a Leica. But they are expensive.
The Leica has a significantly better design and a higher quality housing. The 7CR has a significantly better price. The Leica gives a special feeling. The 7CR can change lenses. Image quality no real differences. You pay the $3000 for the design, workmanship and the Leica name but not for the image.
Don’t forget a good equivalent lens with that Sony body takes the price closer…. But yes, both have similar image quality. But there are other things that are more important than mega pixels and that varies for every one.
Can the Sony be used for ART Photography? Is it good for art photography?
artistic photography? yeah, why wouldn’t it.
For the price of the Leica you can get the Sony A7CR and a full set of cinema or prime lenses. The build, electronics and tech are also far superior on the Sony. Only materialistic fools who likes to be seen with luxury items like the "Leica" brand would choose the Leica.
100% agree
Older folks want simpler menus ,,as enticing as Sony sounds …no one says they have as easy to use menu as the Q3
I JUST bought the Leica Q2, got a great deal on it. Gorgeous photos but I primarily want it for epic shots of my fast moving toddler. Would you recommend me selling the Leica and get this A7CR? I noticed the autofocus is not great in the A2… thoughts??!!!
How much did you pay for it
@@illicit008 paid $3500 which included about $1k of Leica accessories as well. Like new, boxes, etc.
Using this lens on teh Sony to compare the camera seems like a strange choice. Not really comparing apples with apples.
And it ends up being Apples to Apples, says a lot
For the price difference maybe try it with better glass next time?
Sony for the win. Lieca don't care that they are behind in technology because people are still buying these cameras . If you like it, buy it. After I put a GM lens on the A7CR Boom $6000 kit.😮
But you can't be a snob shooting Sony
😂
It’s the same sensor. Just black out the Sony bit and stick that red dot on it 😂
Damn, a $350 Viltrox lens that is way sharper than the Leica.
In terms of IQ, the A7CR + cheap Viltrox (lol) combo is much better.
Leica is for Old timers who are slow LOL Sony all the way! technology IQ and price
Leica is built for people to take control of exposure and focus... But it's for old slow people? As opposed to the brand automating everything to such a degree half their users can't shoot without the camera doing it for them?
Oooo kkkkk
@@SourPlanetExactly! Old timers who think they're something else? with an old technology camera! LOL
@@Zhorellski I'm sorry. I have a hard time finding a point in your weird broken English ramblings.
Man, again I have to cancel my Leica Q3 pre-order. I will keep my Leica Q2 and buy A7CR. I like your Tesla / Ferrari Anology .... Confused again LOL
The Q2 is still a great camera!
@@ABarrera I got my Q2 Very lightly used for USD 3250 (Bargain price 🤣), After seeing so many Q3 reviews including your awesome review which has lifestyle photos, it made a strong case for me not to upgrade to Q3. Q2 indeed a great camera and losing just 13 Megapixels compared to Q3 makes no major impact. Plus I can buy $3k Sony interchangeable setup. So with the Cost of Q3, now I will have Leica Q2 + Sony A7Cr + Lens......
@@ABarrera I understand it becomes close to Leica Q2 through post processing edits. I really don’t like straight jpegs coming from Sony camera and they are nowhere close to Leica. Do you have in camera settings that can emulate Leica Q3 colors. I don’t have time doing post processing through Raw. Your viewers will be very happy if you share in camera settings so that straight jpegs coming from A7CR can be useful. Right now AC7CR produces awful jpegs. Please guide us. Thanks.
did you end up buying the Sony A7CR? Have you ever heard back from the OP on the in camera settings for better colors from sony?
@ yes, I did buy A7CR. Op(Alex) never bothered to reply on the in-camera settings for better colors on Sony!
Why in the world is the Leica $6000
The a7CR's body is made from magnesium alloy
Great Video
I knew which lens was which before you revealed because I knew the Leica is wider. With that said the Viltrox looked aesthetically much more pleasing while the Leica came off too clinical. With that said I have seen some great shots with the Q3 so it's not like this is some definitive thing. Now here's the real catch. You can duplicate all of this dirt cheap that Viltrox and a used Sony A7R III for a fraction of the price. The 42.5MP sensor in that is fantastic and will out perform the 61mp at ISO 6400.
I own a q3. Here are my 2 things what bothers me. I rely heavily on the evf. On the 7 it’s a low res one. But on the q3 you have a beautiful evf BUT trying to use the evf and moving your af-field around is a pain in the bud. If the 7 has a better evf then its(for me) a no brainer: sell the leica and buy a sony
The Q3 has a higher resolution EVF and from that perspective it is better. On the other hand, if you use continuous AF for some reason the quality drops on the Q3.
Just came back from our Europe trip. I just used my Q3 and left my A7R5 in the hotel room in the end. Loved using it but if I had to choose one I would take the Sony.
I can have a great "experience" using a Panasonic LX100 ii for under $600....
Chris frost? Link? Don’t see it.
I just added the link :)
@@ABarrera thanks!
Great comparison…. you can also just bring one lens with you on the trip and save yourself $3k 😊
The beauty of the world we now live in is that the archaic vestiges of luxury no longer matter. Boomers and some of us older millennials still buy into this nonsense. I am guilty of it myself. I’ve been waiting on Leica Q3 for 8 months and now with A7cII coming out, I am going to be cancelling my Q3 pre-orders at 5 different stores. Sad. I know.
Both are made for different customers.
Leica Q3 $5,995 ... Sony A7CR $2,998. There's a difference there too!
Those noise pattern characteristics on the a7CR are completely unacceptable, holy crap.