“well, actually, the reason why my shoes don’t fit is because trans teens keep rickrolling me” is such a chaotic combination of words and i need it on my tombstone.
okay honest to GOD i have never heard jordan petersons voice before and in the beginning of the video when jordan and ethan were doing impressions i thought they were exaggerating. they deadass nailed it, this guy just sounds like he ate kermit the frog and is holding him prisoner in his ribcage
Its the Gumball joke where the rich real estate totally not trump parody of the Elmore Town Mayor says "Why do you have to attack us poor, defenseless billionaires?"
"The problem with free speech is you don't have to pay for it. If you had anything worth saying, you'd have earned the money to pay to say it" JP, basically
Normal person: I don’t like the color pink that much. JP: The praxis of the individuals that vouch for the genuineness of their attraction to the pink color is one done, typically by the female sex. A crucial characteristic that affects my decision in this matter is that i am male. Therefore the interests that I possess are prohibited from aligning with those of the female sex, meaning I am disallowed from finding pink agreeable.
My favorite JP quote is: "I suspect ....That overall, the net consequence of hospitals is negative. That's just a guess. That could easily be wrong. But it could also NOT be wrong." Truly, of all the people on this earth today, he is one of them. Its Jorbin' time.
"I suspect, that overall, women are giving men cooties and dont buy enough fruitloops, and that's a negative. That's just a guess, that could be asily wrong. Bit it could also not be wrong." JP
This man's life is very hard. Every morning he wakes up and people can just DO things, and they don't even ask his permission. Some dont even consider whether he would approve of their every decision.
Living with his brain, his level of neuroticism, is definitely hard. High depression and anxiety, bad immune system. And the amount of hate he gets would destroy most people. Anyway he almost died when detoxing from Benzodiazepines. A lot of people find that hysterical. Which says a lot about the people who oppose him.
This is actually a very sinister video. What he's saying is that the people who criticize him on twitter should not have the right to have a voice that is valued at the same level as his. This is because they haven't "earned" that voice through jumping through hoops and getting tons of followers. He is literally saying that ordinary citizens do not deserve a voice, and only those with a following -- like a monarch, a politician, a billionaire, etc. -- should be allowed to have any public, written opinion. This is how people in power keep power, by preventing the population from dissenting. He is literally saying that the people who are governed don't deserve to have a say, because it they were "credible" enough to have that say, they'd be the governor. Also, twitter does not owe him a platform. Twitter is a private company and they have the right to deny anyone service. You cannot fight for laws that allow discrimination by private companies, then throw a fit when you are the one being discriminated against! you made the bed, Dr. Peterson. edit: I'm an ambitious phd student and this proposed study is such a bad research design. No one in their right mind would run a study like that. He has no control group, no way of measuring these variables, no way of screening out alternative causes -- man is bigoted AND bad at research. Holy sh!t, man.
Yeah, honestly it felt weird that they were dunking on what he was saying for being overintellectual nonsense instead if dunking on him for what he was saying being incredibly horrifying objections to the idea of being able to call out popular people for saying awful stuff without needing to get a book publisher or have a column or etc. etc.? It's obfuscated but it didn't feel like it was that hard to get what he meant? And the content of what he was saying was _way_ worse than the way he was saying it
I just find it super interesting that he calls people who criticize him unethical, when he literally violated his ethical code (Canadian Psychological Association Code of Ethics) by discriminating against and promoting hate towards trans people
yeah like especially when he said "something something democratization of communication"...! like wtf hes literally saying he supports propaganda and restriction of free speech, its so thinly veiled it gave me real bad fash vibes
@@Idran they always do this shit because Jordon Peterson just gishgallops all over them. they're not very good at this tbqh. insert Sartre quote about antisemite's absurdity or whatever
He’s basically saying “Twitter lets people be mean to me and it hurts my fweelings🥺🥺🥺” meanwhile all he does on twitter is spew hate speech and try to make other people miserable for the approval of his own followers. What a joke.
Fun fact about Jordan Peterson. As my sole 18th birthday present, my parents bought me a Jordan Peterson book, and forced me to read it, because they are worried I'm trans and wanted to get me to "be on a good path". I am indeed trans. The book was shit and full of racism and sexism. The guy thinks human women exist to make men uncomfortable and feel shitty, and blames them all. It is really sad.
I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm not enjoying this video because I don't think sitting on a couch and making fun of the sound of someone's voice is useful but I detest Jordan Peterson because he's done a lot of harm. I hope you are okay and can find resources to help you stay sane in the situation you're in right now.
@@kennieskloset5848 "Fights with Native kids were a too-common part of his experience, during those moves. It's no overstatement to point out that such kids were, on average, rougher than the white kids" he then continues to say that he called a native kid a cow, loudly, in front of the entire class, and said the kid was violent for saying he wants to hurt peterson after said incident, as if he didn't fucking just insult the kid in front of the entire class.
kennieskloset he doesn’t account for any variables that are historical or environmental and instead insinuates that people are.. genetically a certain way or that they choose to be a certain way and that white people have just “chosen” better. It echoes a lot of eugenics and other incredibly racist philosophies that portray people who are anything other than white as violent or bad. He does this in different dosages and contexts- but it generally boils down to that. It amazes me how many stupid ideas he just packages in a pseudo intellectual way, and a lot of vulnerable people eat it right out of his hands.
To speak off the cuff, in a precise manner - which is to say I am getting directly to the point - I am producing (which is to say I am writing) this comment to inform you all: I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
To be perfectly clear and wholeheartedly honest with my entire heart, avoiding an overabundance of useless text (by which I mean typing an excessively long comment in response) - I cannot stress this enough; however I shall try - it was a high quality digital form of entertainment. Edit- it came to my attention, shortly after posting the comment, I accidentally missed a punctuation error within the contents of my comment - a mistake which I apologise for and have corrected (and I wish for you, my peers, to inform me whenever other overlooked mishaps arise).
i’m watching this while eating dinner in my college cafeteria and i’m paranoid that everyone who walks behind me thinks i’m actually watching jordan peterson
That was me when I watched Hbomber's video on climate change😂 anytime Ben, or Steven popped up I was paranoid because I was watching it while eating breakfast at my college dining hall
How hard is it to call someone what they wanna be called. It's just basic human respect. Like this guy would be pissed if I decided his name is actually Brittany and actually is a woman and used she/her pronouns. You don't do that.
the real kicker is that early into his notoriety, when he was fighting the c16 bill, he claimed that he would call people by their chosen name and pronouns, his problem was being "compelled." Come to find out, to the surprise of no one, no, he actually has no interest in calling someone the right thing out of politeness and is just a straight up transphobe
"up yours, woke moralists, i'll die before i say freddie mercury - his name was farrokh bulsara! joseph stalin? you mean IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH DZHUGASHVILLI!?"
The most impressive thing Peterson has ever done is the fact that he has to be debunked by so many different disciplines because he talks about so much stuff he doesn't understand. From Biologist, to the Bar association of Canada, economics, fellow psychologists, philosophers, even supermodels are making fun of him. I'd di e of embrassement if I said so even half the amount of things he said that were just so wrong and easily debunkable, just the line about staying awake for 27 days due to Apple Cider would be to much on it's own. Yet for Peterson he just goes on, it's fascinating how one man can have such an undeserved ego and prefers to be ignorant on every topic he talks about, his the defintion of Dunning Kruger.
he would slay as a philosophy dude in ancient rome. Just a bunch of dudes coming up with their own logic because they are convinced it makes sense? He'd have a blast philosopher whos name i cant remember: "well it is obvious that all is water and water is everything. Only different in density and form, but water nontheless, as such, everything needs water because water is the very substance of which it is made up." Sir Jordan Of Big Words: Well, one could say *insert this video, or any of his videos*
Can’t be Dunning Kruger for psychology as he’s very educated in his field (unfortunately). He treats it the exact same way as the fields he has 0 education on, aka creates his own facts and claims they’re universal truths. So I honestly don’t think Dunning Kruger is the culprit, it’s a straight up personality flaw
I'm a philosophy major and to me he sounds like he's trying to craft his persona in a way to convince you that if you don't understand him you're just not as intelligent as him and it's your fault you don't understand. It's hard to understand how a lot of famous and intelligent philosophers write, but there's definitely a difference in character between them and Jordan. Seems very disingenuine
Soooooooo many incels write/speak like that too. Any way that they can over inflate their own ego and importance, they will try to push themselves up by pushing others down. And they wonder why no one will touch their peepee
@@benniesaur or perhaps.. if you consider the nature of the piece of media to which you are referring, you may glean to call such a video 'a film of some succinct and humorous nature'.
@@bex2759 and theoretically, so to speak, if one were to objectively refer to the specifics of the length of this content, one may, in theory, hypothetically refer to it as a video of sorts
Every time I’ve ever heard Jordan Peterson speak it’s felt like going through gruesome physical labor, and it’s only more annoying knowing that he only talks like that to make himself feel smart smh
I had a professor just like this in university. He would ramble on and on like this the whole 3 hour lecture. it’s insane how someone can say so much and yet say so little. And of course when no one understands wtf they’ve been going on about for the last 30 mins, they get upset and say it’s because you are not intelligent enough.
He uses a tactic called obfuscation, which mean he uses big words and academic language to confuse you into agreeing. Which is why I think sometimes he's "dumbing" things down. Like "that means I wrote it" because he is using academic language and targeting it at the "everyday Joe" - it's good to see you lads are smart enough to understand and see through it because it is a horrible manipulation tactic that probably works on s lot of people.
I’m reasonably well educated - in “the arts, post-modernism, Foucault and all those shenanigans, to the extent that I could once write essays that made professors think that I believed in them - yet he can easily confuse me! Not to the extent I’d ever agree with him but to the extent I go … whaaa????
I dropped out of high school and even I can tell that he's not using complicated words out of necessity to communicate complex, technical, or challenging ideas. He's just taking the stupid, angry people's most regressive and and bigoted beliefs and terting them up so that when his audience hears what they already believe, they feel justified in said belief, because now it's all been intellectually laundered for them. He's one of hundreds in the States.
jordan, i would LOVE a shirt that says, “the reason my shoes don’t fit is because trans teens keep rick rolling me. - jordan peterson” you can donate some of the proceeds to charities that support trans youths ❤️
Unwarranted care that writing allows? IRRC when you write something, there’s more care put into it on an academic’s social media account. Unless you’re just shitposting. Dr Petey’s son, what are you saying. You have to choose your words with *less care* bc you’re *writing* wtf
It's like the sentence is fighting with itself. It's significantly more coherent if you just delete the word undue. Because the care that writing allows is an advantage.
peterson is just mad that back in his day you had to be rich, or famous, or have the support of a publisher or production company in order for your voice to be heard. but now because of social media (and twitter in particular), anyone can say something that millions of people can read or hear, and he doesn’t believe they deserve, or have earned that platform and attention.
it's so wild how with his "democratization of communication" bit he's literally complaining about how anybody on twitter is able to voice their opinions, regardless of social status, capital, etc. when. like. his entire group's supposed thing is free speech. it's truly a mask off moment of "when i say free speech i mean i want free speech for myself, not for my critics or those who i think are wrong," but it's all undercut by him deepthroating a thesaurus
"I would rather die than call a person by their chosen pro nouns for I am a free speech warrior!" JP "There should be a way we can stop how and what people say online" also JP
I'm studying far right online influencers and what is interesting about Peterson is he seems to have this deep-seated paranoia and fear of any change to the status quo, as if any attempt to engage with systemic issues will ruin this *perfect society* we have now.
@@mykaylajacques9816 I think the clearest example that occurs to me rn is in 12 Rules For Life with the chapter "put your house in perfect order before you criticize the world". Big Joel did a good explanation of it but basically it presupposes that in order for anyone to be able to validly criticize the world outside of themselves, they must have fixed everything possible about themselves
@@jordanetherington1922 ok yea that makes no sense. I understand the before you pick out the splinter in my eye take out log in yours, but if jordan truly believed in that he would not be able to talk ever
i think what he means by "twitter removes all these limitations" is that while traditionally, people have had to either be wealthy or establish credentials through a wealthy institution in order to communicate on a mass scale, twitter allows just anyone to speak to a large audience. he's weeping and shitting bc people don't need a certain net worth or # of degrees to laugh at him on twitter lol. oh the postmodern horror of it all!
I think it’s also because some of those people have good ideas too. It must really sting to be debunked by high school dropouts and poor people who have the ability to use google and prove him wrong in minutes.
The first time I heard of Jordan Peterson was on the Maintenance Phase podcast, and my brain will always replay Michael Hobbes calling his book "un-fucking-readable." He and Aubrey Gordon try to make heads or tails of ONE PARAGRAPH for almost half the episode. It's so full of parentheticals and weird circular references they just can't stop laughing.
I love their podcast! Both hosts are experienced in reading dense academic texts, so that episode was vindicating. Peterson's argument that ~fairytale witches are real~ was peak Nothing. I'm a graduate student, and Peterson's rhetoric is absolutely arcane.
Because he have a psychology diploma some people are like Well he must be smart Even tho hes just a misogyn, racist, homophobic and religious traditionalist that dont believe in god but hes scared of the possibility of god xD oh and he sell class online like every incels influencers
18:27 he doesn't like twitter because it gives everyone a platform, forcing him to hear other opinions instead of just repeating himself and his echo chamber. twitter actually makes him see how the majority feel about topics, and they don't agree with him, and instead of taking that information, digesting it and reflecting upon himself and how he may be wrong, he lashes out at us idiots who aren't "worthy" of having an opinion. also, the "anyone can comment on anyone regardless of social status" thing shows how ugly he truly is. If you are below his social status, you don't matter. to summarize: old white straight man is angry non old white straight men have differing opinions and will voice them as aggressively as he voices his own
Exactly, this is what I got from what he was saying (albeit very unclearly). It shows how elitist he is and how he views himself on a pedestal above literally everyone else
What makes me the most sad about the whole Jordan Peterson thing is he has made a mockery of psychology and it's usefulness in understanding and navigating the ever-evolving interpersonal and societal changes we are all going through. I love this field and people like him have destroyed my faith in the leaders of the field and their willingness to actually provide real, objective, apolitical help to people. They need to be able to provide advice and theory and research that challenge or offend their personal beliefs about how the world works, depending on what might be best for their patient or the people listening to them. You can't create a group of people who just follow your philosophy like a Messiah. Edit: FTW - as someone who understands psychology-prof speak and has spent years reading and critiquing psychology papers as a way of learning how to properly and effectively get a point across - I cannot understand half of what Peterson is trying to say. Most of the time he just speaks in a jumbled mess of key words like he's an AI bot in its first iteration that is being designed to write abstracts for research papers. It's incomprehensible.
This video so badly made me want to edit his "essay" that he read to be actually functional. Like I wrote better than this in my first year of undergrad he cannot be allowed to flaunt his phd like it has any meaning anymore
I have no real understanding of psychology, but I like big words. And it's so obvious to me he only uses them to appear eloquent and sophisticated without actually being those things.
@@ngotemna8875 that's totally fair. I just also know that sometimes when getting into deep psychological conversation sometimes professors can use a lot of big words in a way where the ending sentence actually makes sense. It's pretentious and it's not the easiest way to explain things, but at least it makes sense. But that requires an actual understanding of both the words you're using and the concept you're trying to get across. Peterson has neither and it's an excellent way of making viewers who wouldn't understand the concept or the words feel smart because Peterson mixes those types of sentences in with blatant statements of facist ideology they already agree with.
i mean his viewpoint on twitter is really inherently discriminatory. he reminisces about old barriers in media that kept out the “noise”, made by poor and black and trans and gay and otherwise oppressed people who now have the ability to amplify their voices and renounce bigotry against them. it seems he’s just mad that now, the people he is constantly saying discriminatory and often reprehensible things about are able to fight back and speak about their own viewpoints.
Normal human: I don't like McDonalds Jordan Peterson: The provocative nature of how we exploit a vessel of meat in a machine of our economic greed displeases my personal aura.
This man's entire personality is constructed around him popping open a thesaurus once and thinking that he suddenly knows everything he's talking about. No matter the subject.
It's fucking insane to me how much conservative ideology boils down to wanting, hell, demanding to be liked regardless of how much they make everyone else's lives miserable. They truly don't understand why people shit on them
When he's talking about barriers, I think what he's trying to say; _"Back in my day you had to earn your voice. Now these _*_peasants_*_ are allowed to respond to me."_ It's so fragile.
*_"All the impotent anger bleeds into the real world."_* He says. Sat in his living room in the real world. Where he is whining, impotently enraged, that people dared to say he was wrong on the internet... 😁
I also love how he basically says _"institutional corruption within academia is fine and people should be afraid of us and our fragile egos."_ He's not supposed to say that stuff out loud. But there he is, arguing his privilege and the ability to exert it upon others _totally unjustified_ is fine. Regardless of the fact his students may be objectively correct. It's like; _"I've earned the _*_right_*_ to opress you, how dare Twitter destroy the house of cards upon which my Fabergé Ego rests?! How dare they _*_democratise_*_ the power of ideas!!! I want the power to be mine mine mine!!!"_ Like, the venom with which he says the _democratised..._ This dude won't be missed.
Yknow what, this guy is actually helpful. I really overthink and get tired out from how much I've got going on inside my head but when he talks my brain completely shuts off so its kinda therapeutic in a way
These weird pseudointellectuals always underestimate the value of speaking clearly and using common words so that all of their audience can understand and not just the educationally privileged. It's really weird, you'd think they'd want to make all of their vast and special "intellect" easier for others to grasp(especially in Peterson's case since he's apparently a professor?).
It's called doublespeak. They make sure to make what they say too fancy and complex to understand so others will think that they are smarter than them; so smart, in fact, that they can't even understand what's being said. Doublespeak has other characteristics too, such as vague and euphemistic language, but that's essentially it. What they are saying isn't smart, so they have to make it sound smart, and you can't deny that what's being said isn't smart when you don't understand what they're saying in the first place. A lot of pseudointellectuals and politicians, when using doublespeak, will imply that you aren't smart enough to understand them, so when they respond to your questions or say things, you can't just respond "What? I don't get what you mean." without it seeming like you're not smart, so people just back away and pretend they understood and not try to analyze it. Politics and other things can be talked about without talking like this, but if they drop the doublespeak, they wouldn't seem smart to the people who fall for the illusion.
I'd probably concede to the point about how his use of "academically privileged" language isn't accessible if it wasn't for the fact that most academically incline people don't even understand what he is talking about. The problem isn't the words he uses, but how the way he uses them makes no fucking sense. The reason why so he has so many fans is because he dispenses so many dog whistles that even the dumbest among them can botice, and that's what they want to hear. I think the reason why he does this however is because he just sounds like a blatant bigot whenever he uses plain language.
@christophernayar6543 Complex isn't the best way to describe it. In retrospect, it's more about sounding smart to them. Understanding what doublespeak is better now, I don't think my assessment is the most accurate. I don't remember writing the comment all that well. I think it might've been night when I wrote it. I'll probably rewatch the video another time and have a more accurate assessment of the topic.
i'm not proud of this fact but my aunt and uncle are friends with jordan peterson. enough that my aunt sent me and my sibs autographed copies of his book when we turned 18. i apparently met him at their wedding but i was like 11 so i don't remember. but ten years after i did discover the boy i fell in love with* that day was his son. weird to think the boy you spent a cherished summer afternoon with is the son of a man so antithetical to your entire being. small world. anyway, great video! your banter always kills me aksksls;; *he had longish hair and wasn't mean to me so as a closeted lesbian and a child i thought that's what love was akfkdks
Me, a lesbian, only liking feminine men and getting icks thinking about sleeping with them yet thinking I was in love from getting bare minimum kindness, appreciate your addendum as well 😂😂
The way that he puts himself forward as an intellectual and then comes up w such a horrendously flawed psychological study that I, someone who has not done any psych classes in a decade, can easily find the flaw in that you cannot limit someone’s exposure to social media and to find someone who is a ‘clean slate’ who has not had any social media influence at all is near impossible Unless you decide to make the study about small children - which would then require following their growth for years, and probably border on unethical conduct because you would very much have to control these children’s lives instead of it being an observational study is just. It’s so bad literally no one in their right mind would pursue or find this study
Peterson’s the world’s best cryptofascist and he doesn’t even know it. He abides by the politics of obfuscation (which are necessary to normalize the fascist goal of mass racialized violence), depends heavily upon esoteric mythological concepts, uses his limited concept of biology as material, immutable fact, isn’t inclined to label himself. It’s almost funny, at this point. I wish him a very [series of censored beeps].
i mean fortunately going mask off with the 'up yours woke moralists' after publicly falling apart for several years really reduced his power to do damage lmao
Excellent comment - except i feel he mostly does know how fashi he is. He pretends he's not a grifter (yet he knew dang well he was lying about the bill - our bills are short, easy to read & all are online); using the phrase 'cultural marxist" (like it wasn't taught in our schools here that the phrase was/is a code used by the haters of Jewish people • at least used since at least the 1920s); downplaying the 'hollowcost' by saying AH had OCD & the pressure took him a bit overboard; had his pic taken with a pepe flag; & pics of him huggin' up on proudboys; admitting he would've voted for 45; he whitemansplained how racism & sexism aren't real *by saying white men deserve* (??) *privilge* cos *white men made everything* (??)". He *totally* Knows but just doesn't care... I was flatmates with 2 women who both worked with him & he's generally disliked by most faculty & students ‐ mostly cos he overtly acts in very bigoted ways whilst being confident yet fully incorrect • cos his attempts at plausible deniability don't work when its ones only M.O.
I watch this video like once every two weeks. Every part of it is amazing, from "Walter Hartwell White" to "reading what I produced, which means these are things that I wrote" is brilliant.
My history of psychology professor HATES Peterson and calls him the Freud of our time. He frames every lecture around a new way Peterson was wrong about something and how to prevent making that same mistake in our own future. That man makes me question the University of Toronto for ever letting him teach. (to be clear: my prof covers mistakes Peterson made as a professor. he can say whatever he wants in his free time but that loser just loves to go against academics while teaching students and that’s unacceptable)
@@SleepyMatt-zzzeud himself was a fraud, he was a lazy scientist who could twist literally anything into “evidence” for his ideas. He also had a strange fixation on reinterpreting the behavior of children as being sexual, such as saying that a young child being emotionally close to their mother is actually them being horny and not, you know, loving their parents. Dude, if you think a baby loving his mommy is because of an Oedipus complex, that says way more about you than human nature
I think hidden in the whole accumulation of wealth, democratization of communication, blocking out the noise nonsense- was actually a pretty messed up take lol 😬I’m pretty sure he was saying that he thinks only people with access to enough money to publish their writing should be allowed to have a public opinion. he’s calling the people in his replies stupid and poor, and saying that he’s above critique
And he shields himself from that kind of criticism by asserting that the west is primarily a competence hierarchy and not a dominance hierarchy. The conclusion he wants his followers to come to is: No followers/wealth/resources to express your opinions = lack of competence to express opinions. He "avoids" the accusation by implying that power/influence and competence are correlated. "It's not that you don't deserve to have a voice because you don't have the reach, it's that you don't have the reach because you don't deserve to have a voice (because you don't have the competence)" I think this reversal is crucial to right wing ideology and social Darwinism
I think the weird thing about him is that he himself doesn't realize that he is as chronically online as the people he is criticizing, even if he understands the problems with the social media format.
Basically what he's saying is that only people who have "earned" their way into being able to publish papers, books etc should be able to speak to the public at large. The fact that everyone on the internet has the ability to shout into the void and have others see it causes Jordan Peterson to get sad because he no longer gets to live in his bubble and ignore all the plebs who are beneath him.
As someone who is non-binary and is studying a degree falling under Biological Sciences I guess I don't actually have an understanding of basic biology then
Just because you have real life experience and academic knowledge doesn't mean you know stuff. Clearly you need to watch more Jordan B Peterson videos. The B stands for knowledge
It drives me nuts how these people refuse to understand that people who aren’t transphobic are not disputing that biological sex exists, we’re just saying it’s not inherently tied to the social presentation of gender, which is a different thing and more in the realm of psychology than biology. But they will not stop reducing the argument to “liberals don’t understand what chromosomes are” or something.
Jordan Peterson explaining family interactions just sounds like "My family and I talk about hate for several groups of people. Why does the larger society not let me share my hatred?"
Whenever I hear Jordan Peterson speak I keep hearing my teacher say "remember to keep your words simple enough for everyone to grasp" not because their too dumb to get what your saying but because you'd sound boring as hell. I wouldn't get through a Peterson video without someone cracking jokes about him.
I’ve concluded that until he began suggesting the study, he actually had some valid points. The funny thing is that they are all reflections on his own behavior online. 1. If you were raised to speak a certain way, (like you are trying to meet the word count requirement for an essay) and you speak that way on Twitter, people might clown on you. 2. Twitter is a platform where anyone can post and people will listen, kind of like how he posts nonsensical ramblings and still has fans despite bringing in dire need of an editor. 3. Anyone can post lies on Twitter, start conspiracy theories, and manipulate public perception of something, kind of like how he did that with the misinformation that he has. 4. The lies and vitriol that a person posts online can incite real violence in the real world, like his has.
i wanna believe that anyone who genuinely likes this dude just can’t comprehend what he’s saying. if your brain is fast enough to decode his stupidly complex speeches you’ll notice he’s saying nothing but with the most words possible. honestly it’s impressive because i struggle reaching word counts in essays, but mf is exceeding it just off the top of his head lmao- hi i’m a linguistics major, this dude is like a direct opposition to how spoken english works and it’s so scary. in most languages there are two forms, spoken and written. i was wondering why he was making me severely uncomfortable, this mf is speaking the written form of english. i’ve never heard anyone do this so effortlessly it’s making me genuinely upset. is he reading a script or something because i can’t accept that he can do this naturally- this is gonna keep me up at night. this makes him even more insufferable i hate this man :D
he is the opposite of the "you dont understand something completely until you can explain it to a child". This man, with 1000% more words than he needs, can explain shit to Victor Hugo and Victor Hugo only.
I didn't even realize that there's much of a difference between spoken and written English but you're right, he's speaking as if he's writing a (bad) essay in real time.
The amount of effort I have to put into processing anything that Jordan Peterson says is kind of amazing. I struggle to pay attention to people who communicate clearly, who I want to listen to, so imagine how difficult it is for me to even process anything he says, much less comprehend it
someone tell that guy that an inability to explain something in a concise direct manner actually shows he doesn’t understand at all his subject and isn’t really concerned about anyone understanding it either as much as he cares about being perceived as intelligent by other people who think using the longest synonym of every word they mean makes them look smart
especially the run-on sentences. It's one thing to use a bunch of big words to intentionally obfuscate what you're saying, but my god it's like he's trying to be as inconcise as possible. He talks like how I wrote in 10th grade when I thought I was already a master writer lmao
That or he has a traumatic brain injury or disability that inhibits communication skills, but those of us with issues like that usually disclose it ahead of time.
@@GoddoDoggo pretty sure the crypto-fascist isn’t disabled, he talks like that to give a sense of legitimacy to his nonsensical emotional breakdowns about being ratio’d on twitter
@@littlechickeyhudak yeah lmao, it’s like he thinks fancy words will make up for his lack of structure or coherence. the rambling thing would pass better if it was really a spontaneous rant lol, but he writes a script beforehand and you bet he spends time editing it. don’t believe that someone who’s such a mess is well read enough to naturally use half of the words he’s spitting out.
How do all these Peterson-types get away with saying SO MUCH without saying anything of substance? The stans must just get a hyper-ego from thinking they're "intellectual" for "getting it".
jp's weird rant about twitter is like when someone has a really bad breakup and they start saying shit like "maybe humans weren't meant to be monogamous"
Y'all know that Tyleer the Creator tweet thats like "how are you getting cyperbullied hahaha just close your eyes hahaha" ?? I think jordan peterson should just close his eyes to solve 90 percent of his problems
Jbp is so unhinged it would be funny if it wasn't for the the fact that he's incredibly damaging to marginalised groups and not just himself. If only people didn't think he was smart for "knowing big words"
Fun fact, we're encouraged to avoid legalize when in court for that very reason. At least in Canadian courts. Not sure what you guys do down there in America. My friend is a teaching assistant at the same university Peterson works, and he is a faculty nightmare.
Rather than think it's sad, try to understand why it happens because that's a better way to fight it. In any time of societal change, there will be people who feel alienated, angry and confused. Some of those people will be older and some will be younger. Jordan Peterson's advice is extremely appealing to those people.
@@CajunCouillon Are you really asking why people, largely young white men, who are angry and alienated find someone like Jordan Peterson appealing? Are you saying that you're unaware of societal change? It's difficult for me to credit your question as being in good faith. What do you think is behind the appeal of someone like Jordan Peterson who wraps a distinctly conservative worldview into general self-help and advice? Why do you think his advice is appealing to many? What do you think is behind the appeal of Donald Trump? It is similar. You appeal to people who feel that they are losing their power, who think that the gains of other groups come at their expense. People who believe that progress is a zero sum game. Those are the people who are vulnerable to an appeal to conservatism. They want to go back to the halcyon days of yore when things were simpler, when things were, as they perceive, better. The thing is, things were not better for everyone back in those days. They were better for the segment of the population that finds Jordan Peterson appealing. It isn't lost on me that you are willfully misunderstanding what I was saying. It isn't societal change in America "as we speak" , it is change that has been happening for a while and ideally would continue and speed up. If you are a traditional white male from your perspective the gains of women, minorities, groups that had been disenfranchised, all of their gains feel like they come at your expense. Someone like Jordan Peterson says women should have children in their early twenties rather than competing with men in the workplace. He says hierarchy is good and divine! God made hierarchy, men are order and women are chaos. He'll tell you that women wear makeup in the workplace to simulate sexual arousal in order to attract men. It isn't true, but if you are an angry disaffected alienated man, it feels true to you. All of this is extremely appealing to someone who feels at a loss and suspects that their share of power and influence is being reduced. If you are used to having the lion's share, equality feels like oppression when it isn't. If you genuinely want to engage on the topic in good faith, do so. If you're looking to troll, find someone else.
@@Kyarrix Was my comment rly angled to troll, or are you just so sensitive that it seemed that way to you? I asked a genuine question and was somehow trying to light a fire under you? That’s a load of shit and also why nothing can progress forward in this sensitive ass society. Because feelings come before common sense nowadays and it is pathetic, to say the least. It’s not healthy to assume everyone is out to get you and assuming I was deliberately trying to troll you. You still never answered my question. You just bitched about white skin, as expected.. I was just hoping for the best, but was severely disappointed. So thanks for that.👌
Every time I hear his name I think of that “and the rat goes like this” thing he’s such a silly little guy it’s so laughable that anyone would truly look up to him
Millions do look up to him though. Whenever you have significant change in a society there will be people who are angry, confused and alienated as a result. Those are the people who Jordan Peterson reaches with his general advice folded into a kind of old timey conservatism that can be appealing to them. That's why it is as dangerous as it is and the primary reason I wish they had focused at least in part on why the advice is appealing, who it appeals to, and how to better fight against it. I've lost two friends to Jordan Peterson's advice. At the time I didn't have the tools to help debunk it.
@@Kyarrix I'm sorry for your loss. I don't mean to be insensitive, but since you brought it up, I have a couple of questions regarding your second sentence [note: second paragraph, actually]. What precisely is it you weren't able to debunk? And what tools do you have now you didn't have before to do so?
@@sapphirevaltiel I'm not sure if you're trolling or not. I suspect that you might be. You don't have to be sorry for my loss, no one died, I just lost a couple of friends who fell into Jordan Peterson world and were not able to extricate themselves. What do you think I was referring to? If you believe that women represent chaos and men represent order then you too have fallen into Peterson's weirdly regressive way of thinking. He also says that women wear makeup at work in order to simulate sexual arousal. Do you believe that too? Or just things like you should clean up your room before venturing out into the world to create positive change? That's another of his aphorisms. He is not a fan of younger people working for social change, for various reasons. Jordan Peterson is attractive to people who feel lost, confused, many of them angry in a changing world where they aren't sure of their role anymore. People who yearn for the halcyon days of yore when things were more clear cut. The problem with those so-called halcyon days is that they weren't, not for most people. Not for women, not for minorities, not for people who were different in any way. They were great though for people who were white, male and middle class. For those folks, the slightest leveling of the playing field feels like oppression now. Of course they want to return to the past, return to a time when women didn't compete in the workplace. Jordan Peterson says women should be having children in their early twenties and if they aren't, they are emotionally damaged. He believes that women and men working together in the workplace is an experiment that we might well do without. How am I better equipped? I'm older, and I know more. I've read his books, I can critique them effectively and the thinking that underpins them. I'm not sure what you're really asking and I suspect you might be trolling so I'll stop here. If you want to clarify your question, please do so and I'll respond.
this is genuinely one of my favorite videos of all time. i go back to watch it at least once a month. whenever i'm bored of my recommendations. it legit makes me laugh out loud every single time i watch it
There should be exercises in High School English classes that require students to take a JP lecture transcript and reduce it down to 25% of it's original length while retaining the same basic meaning. 10% for the AP classes.
He talks about how being able to shout IRL is a privilege, either by social capital or economic capital - to the point you can literally hire someone to do it for you. And on twitter it disappears, anyone can shout. It's so JP to acknowledge power structures and inequalities, but then be like yeah that's there because it's supposed to be. He assumes it's a meritocracy or at least the most stable (conservatism) / strongest (fascism) system.
"shield us from racket in the-what does that even mean" I THINK he's gesturing at the idea of academic gatekeeping. Like it used to be that you had to be in academic spaces to call him a dumbass and he's upset that professional buffer isn't there to protect him from the mean words
So this is a funny vid and all but was Jordan Peterson’s Twitter rant about how it’s bad that people can reach a wider audience without being wealthy, aligning themselves with a larger institution, and/or getting a higher education? Like, he’s mad that a public forum exists that is accessible for all levels of society? I get that the way he’s speaking is goofy, but that’s some serious far-right bullshit. He literally says that the “democratization of communication” is bad because only rich or “successful” people can be moral or correct, which he supports by saying that people can form angry mobs on Twitter.
English is not my first language, but still quite fluent. Everytime I hear Jordan talk my brain goes completely blank, he says every word I've never heard of before. So ehm thanks for the translation
As a fellow trans teen I can completely confirm this thought, it’s my favorite past time (other then being trans which as we know is my whole personality)
@@Potentiallychaotic Oh of course, we're unable to have any personal traits other than being trans, that's common knowledge :) (well, that and rickrolling)
Listening to Jordan Peterson talk just makes me think of George Orwell writing about the degredation of language and communication due to all the added vocal fluff and such. The dude is literally just saying words 💀
the way he speaks just makes me feel like I'm 7 in a dingy hotel room watching the history channel explain how aliens built the pyramids well past midnight
“well, actually, the reason why my shoes don’t fit is because trans teens keep rickrolling me” is such a chaotic combination of words and i need it on my tombstone.
13:05
brand new sentence 💀
omg xd
@@appleOgreen oh 🧍
@@appleOgreen What part of the comment are you mocking?
I never realized how Jordan Peterson ACTUALLY sounds like Kermit if Miss Piggy left him and he found out about Rumble and 4chan
AHHSHAHA
@@cerys113the wheeze I just whoze
@@_koraki whoze lmao
“oh you wanna be trans? try IMMORTALITY, then we’ll talk” 😎
chad moment
people like JP are exactly why I view the idea of immortality as a curse 😂
Build God then we'll talk?
Challenge accepted
I have transcended my limited human form. I no longer have interest in human concepts like gender or books.
"2 girls, but due to the ravages of socialism, they are forced to share one cup😢"- Jordan Peterson porbably
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okay honest to GOD i have never heard jordan petersons voice before and in the beginning of the video when jordan and ethan were doing impressions i thought they were exaggerating. they deadass nailed it, this guy just sounds like he ate kermit the frog and is holding him prisoner in his ribcage
RIGHT? I HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE
Oh god i wish I had never heard that fascist freak’s voice before, like a hundred times
this mans peterson really said the poor and disenfranchised should be gatekept from sharing their opinions
free speech though. he really cares about free speech. for sure.
Its the Gumball joke where the rich real estate totally not trump parody of the Elmore Town Mayor says "Why do you have to attack us poor, defenseless billionaires?"
"The problem with free speech is you don't have to pay for it. If you had anything worth saying, you'd have earned the money to pay to say it" JP, basically
@@bibsp3556 yas
@@bibsp3556 that was perfectly summed up
“You support trans people? Well y’all die lmao” is just the worse version of “you claim to be pro-life and yet you died? Curious”
The second one is actually so funny tho
the second one is funny tho
yes
Curious
It's almost more along the lines of "you're pro choice? What if I choose to kill you?"
Normal person: I don’t like the color pink that much.
JP: The praxis of the individuals that vouch for the genuineness of their attraction to the pink color is one done, typically by the female sex. A crucial characteristic that affects my decision in this matter is that i am male. Therefore the interests that I possess are prohibited from aligning with those of the female sex, meaning I am disallowed from finding pink agreeable.
you nailed his style and it's a little scary lol. It's like he's trying to hit a word count on an essay while sneaking in as much bigotry as possible
omg that’s so accurate, the entire time I was thinking he sounds like he’s from the 1800s
I literally read that in his voice 💀 your parody is on point lmao
You missed the chance to insert "Whatever meaning that term may still hold in our current social climate" after "male" 😶
🤣🤣🤣
My favorite JP quote is: "I suspect ....That overall, the net consequence of hospitals is negative. That's just a guess. That could easily be wrong. But it could also NOT be wrong."
Truly, of all the people on this earth today, he is one of them. Its Jorbin' time.
Thank you for sharing this, its like a concussion in a shot glass
I suspect Jordan Peterson may be a serial killer. That's just a guess. That could be wrong. It could also NOT be wrong.
WHAT OMFG 😭
"I suspect, that overall, women are giving men cooties and dont buy enough fruitloops, and that's a negative. That's just a guess, that could be asily wrong. Bit it could also not be wrong." JP
How to write "i don't know hospital stats" when you're paid by the word
This man's life is very hard. Every morning he wakes up and people can just DO things, and they don't even ask his permission. Some dont even consider whether he would approve of their every decision.
What's worse, sometimes they DISAGREE with him.
I can’t believe I actually ate a doughnut this morning without papa Jordan’s permission. I’m so sorry I let him down…
@@totallynotsummermorrison33 CRIMINAL! CRIMINAL! How could you hurt him like this?? AHH, CRIMINAL!
Living with his brain, his level of neuroticism, is definitely hard. High depression and anxiety, bad immune system. And the amount of hate he gets would destroy most people.
Anyway he almost died when detoxing from Benzodiazepines. A lot of people find that hysterical. Which says a lot about the people who oppose him.
but you dont understand they can call him mean names! they can bully him!
This is actually a very sinister video. What he's saying is that the people who criticize him on twitter should not have the right to have a voice that is valued at the same level as his. This is because they haven't "earned" that voice through jumping through hoops and getting tons of followers. He is literally saying that ordinary citizens do not deserve a voice, and only those with a following -- like a monarch, a politician, a billionaire, etc. -- should be allowed to have any public, written opinion. This is how people in power keep power, by preventing the population from dissenting. He is literally saying that the people who are governed don't deserve to have a say, because it they were "credible" enough to have that say, they'd be the governor. Also, twitter does not owe him a platform. Twitter is a private company and they have the right to deny anyone service. You cannot fight for laws that allow discrimination by private companies, then throw a fit when you are the one being discriminated against! you made the bed, Dr. Peterson.
edit: I'm an ambitious phd student and this proposed study is such a bad research design. No one in their right mind would run a study like that. He has no control group, no way of measuring these variables, no way of screening out alternative causes -- man is bigoted AND bad at research. Holy sh!t, man.
Yeah, honestly it felt weird that they were dunking on what he was saying for being overintellectual nonsense instead if dunking on him for what he was saying being incredibly horrifying objections to the idea of being able to call out popular people for saying awful stuff without needing to get a book publisher or have a column or etc. etc.?
It's obfuscated but it didn't feel like it was that hard to get what he meant? And the content of what he was saying was _way_ worse than the way he was saying it
I just find it super interesting that he calls people who criticize him unethical, when he literally violated his ethical code (Canadian Psychological Association Code of Ethics) by discriminating against and promoting hate towards trans people
yeah like especially when he said "something something democratization of communication"...! like wtf hes literally saying he supports propaganda and restriction of free speech, its so thinly veiled it gave me real bad fash vibes
@@Idran it’s only because they don’t take him seriously enough to actually dunk on him.
@@Idran they always do this shit because Jordon Peterson just gishgallops all over them. they're not very good at this tbqh. insert Sartre quote about antisemite's absurdity or whatever
He’s basically saying
“Twitter lets people be mean to me and it hurts my fweelings🥺🥺🥺”
meanwhile all he does on twitter is spew hate speech and try to make other people miserable for the approval of his own followers. What a joke.
It’s also like he has no idea what 4chan is and thinks only Twitter has toxic people
@@Purplesquigglystripe no famous people and companies are on 4chan so he cant make money there
@@gus7598 Kinda ironic considering the quantum of his audience that lives on 4chan
free speech goes both ways JP ;)
“Twitter wets peepo (people) be mean to me”
Fun fact about Jordan Peterson. As my sole 18th birthday present, my parents bought me a Jordan Peterson book, and forced me to read it, because they are worried I'm trans and wanted to get me to "be on a good path". I am indeed trans. The book was shit and full of racism and sexism. The guy thinks human women exist to make men uncomfortable and feel shitty, and blames them all. It is really sad.
I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm not enjoying this video because I don't think sitting on a couch and making fun of the sound of someone's voice is useful but I detest Jordan Peterson because he's done a lot of harm. I hope you are okay and can find resources to help you stay sane in the situation you're in right now.
@@KyarrixThank you! I'm indeed doing much better. I have a wonderful girlfriend and very very very supportive friends to help me along the way.
what was said in the book that was racist? /genq
@@kennieskloset5848 "Fights with Native kids were a too-common part of his experience, during those moves. It's no overstatement to point out that such kids were, on average, rougher than the white kids"
he then continues to say that he called a native kid a cow, loudly, in front of the entire class, and said the kid was violent for saying he wants to hurt peterson after said incident, as if he didn't fucking just insult the kid in front of the entire class.
kennieskloset he doesn’t account for any variables that are historical or environmental and instead insinuates that people are.. genetically a certain way or that they choose to be a certain way and that white people have just “chosen” better. It echoes a lot of eugenics and other incredibly racist philosophies that portray people who are anything other than white as violent or bad. He does this in different dosages and contexts- but it generally boils down to that. It amazes me how many stupid ideas he just packages in a pseudo intellectual way, and a lot of vulnerable people eat it right out of his hands.
To speak off the cuff, in a precise manner - which is to say I am getting directly to the point - I am producing (which is to say I am writing) this comment to inform you all: I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
At least you were able to communicate what you mean by the end. Far more concise than Jordan Peterson
Word count achieved
Man wrote this comment extemporaneously
To be perfectly clear and wholeheartedly honest with my entire heart, avoiding an overabundance of useless text (by which I mean typing an excessively long comment in response) - I cannot stress this enough; however I shall try - it was a high quality digital form of entertainment.
Edit- it came to my attention, shortly after posting the comment, I accidentally missed a punctuation error within the contents of my comment - a mistake which I apologise for and have corrected (and I wish for you, my peers, to inform me whenever other overlooked mishaps arise).
i’m watching this while eating dinner in my college cafeteria and i’m paranoid that everyone who walks behind me thinks i’m actually watching jordan peterson
Bro literally me whenever I watch commentary videos about bad people in front of other people
BRO SAME I WAS SCARED SOMEONE WOULD SEE OVER MY SHOULDER 😭
@@ecliiipsssse same! This happens to me too! I always get so relieved when it cuts back to the commentators that I’m actually watching.
So true. Like no I'm not watching [insert right wing lunatic here]. Why are you running 😭?!
That was me when I watched Hbomber's video on climate change😂 anytime Ben, or Steven popped up I was paranoid because I was watching it while eating breakfast at my college dining hall
How hard is it to call someone what they wanna be called. It's just basic human respect. Like this guy would be pissed if I decided his name is actually Brittany and actually is a woman and used she/her pronouns. You don't do that.
the real kicker is that early into his notoriety, when he was fighting the c16 bill, he claimed that he would call people by their chosen name and pronouns, his problem was being "compelled." Come to find out, to the surprise of no one, no, he actually has no interest in calling someone the right thing out of politeness and is just a straight up transphobe
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE POST-MODERNIST LEFTIST RADICALIZED CULTURAL-MARXIST WOKE MOB SOY BOY SNOWFLAKE LIBERAL GAY AGENDA WANTS
@@Romanticoutlaw holy fucking shit, his argument was literally "i *was* going to do it, but now that you asked me to, i *won't* !!!😡"
wonder if he'd also rather die than to say muhammad ali instead of cassius clay
"up yours, woke moralists, i'll die before i say freddie mercury - his name was farrokh bulsara! joseph stalin? you mean IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH DZHUGASHVILLI!?"
The most impressive thing Peterson has ever done is the fact that he has to be debunked by so many different disciplines because he talks about so much stuff he doesn't understand. From Biologist, to the Bar association of Canada, economics, fellow psychologists, philosophers, even supermodels are making fun of him. I'd di e of embrassement if I said so even half the amount of things he said that were just so wrong and easily debunkable, just the line about staying awake for 27 days due to Apple Cider would be to much on it's own. Yet for Peterson he just goes on, it's fascinating how one man can have such an undeserved ego and prefers to be ignorant on every topic he talks about, his the defintion of Dunning Kruger.
he would slay as a philosophy dude in ancient rome. Just a bunch of dudes coming up with their own logic because they are convinced it makes sense? He'd have a blast
philosopher whos name i cant remember: "well it is obvious that all is water and water is everything. Only different in density and form, but water nontheless, as such, everything needs water because water is the very substance of which it is made up."
Sir Jordan Of Big Words: Well, one could say *insert this video, or any of his videos*
You will never be a woman
@@ciciamanda. in ancient rome? i dont think jordan peterson would like how fruity that was be real lmfaooo
I love this comment, thank you
Can’t be Dunning Kruger for psychology as he’s very educated in his field (unfortunately). He treats it the exact same way as the fields he has 0 education on, aka creates his own facts and claims they’re universal truths. So I honestly don’t think Dunning Kruger is the culprit, it’s a straight up personality flaw
I’d love to see a “Peterson-to-human” translation just to see how much shorter the video would then be.
it'd be like 13 seconds at BEST
"Twitter mean, internet bad (unless I use it to be mean), fucking leftists."
"Twitter hurt my feelings 😭😭😭"
The end.
It's so gratifying to finally see someone respond to Peterson with the degree of seriousness and respect he deserves.
"to the degree"
I'm a philosophy major and to me he sounds like he's trying to craft his persona in a way to convince you that if you don't understand him you're just not as intelligent as him and it's your fault you don't understand. It's hard to understand how a lot of famous and intelligent philosophers write, but there's definitely a difference in character between them and Jordan. Seems very disingenuine
A hot air balloon with a thesaurus collection.
@@tayaroo lmao
Soooooooo many incels write/speak like that too.
Any way that they can over inflate their own ego and importance, they will try to push themselves up by pushing others down.
And they wonder why no one will touch their peepee
@@tayaroonailed it!!!!! Lolololollol
Love this so called video
Or as one might say, a short movie
you and jordan have the exact same subscriber count. 153k
you two have the best chemistry I *really* love these collabs 😭😭
@@benniesaur or perhaps.. if you consider the nature of the piece of media to which you are referring, you may glean to call such a video 'a film of some succinct and humorous nature'.
@@bex2759 and theoretically, so to speak, if one were to objectively refer to the specifics of the length of this content, one may, in theory, hypothetically refer to it as a video of sorts
Every time I’ve ever heard Jordan Peterson speak it’s felt like going through gruesome physical labor, and it’s only more annoying knowing that he only talks like that to make himself feel smart smh
He sounds like a brain-damaged autotuned muppet... On purpose?!
100% agreed. The fact that I finished the video is a testament to just how much I enjoy watching Ethan & Jordan.
@e-w-4174 hopefully it does, would make me feel much better about knowing people listen to him
I had a professor just like this in university. He would ramble on and on like this the whole 3 hour lecture. it’s insane how someone can say so much and yet say so little. And of course when no one understands wtf they’ve been going on about for the last 30 mins, they get upset and say it’s because you are not intelligent enough.
He uses a tactic called obfuscation, which mean he uses big words and academic language to confuse you into agreeing. Which is why I think sometimes he's "dumbing" things down. Like "that means I wrote it" because he is using academic language and targeting it at the "everyday Joe" - it's good to see you lads are smart enough to understand and see through it because it is a horrible manipulation tactic that probably works on s lot of people.
I’m reasonably well educated - in “the arts, post-modernism, Foucault and all those shenanigans, to the extent that I could once write essays that made professors think that I believed in them - yet he can easily confuse me! Not to the extent I’d ever agree with him but to the extent I go … whaaa????
I dropped out of high school and even I can tell that he's not using complicated words out of necessity to communicate complex, technical, or challenging ideas. He's just taking the stupid, angry people's most regressive and and bigoted beliefs and terting them up so that when his audience hears what they already believe, they feel justified in said belief, because now it's all been intellectually laundered for them. He's one of hundreds in the States.
jordan, i would LOVE a shirt that says, “the reason my shoes don’t fit is because trans teens keep rick rolling me. - jordan peterson”
you can donate some of the proceeds to charities that support trans youths ❤️
Yas. Purchasing as soon as it comes out
Please I beg for this merch
that quote is now the wallpapper on my phone
these are just random words put together 😂😂
it's a shame that he would probably end up crying and claiming libel
"I have to choose my words with the undue care that writing allows"
I think more care was due than he allowed, tbh.
Unwarranted care that writing allows? IRRC when you write something, there’s more care put into it on an academic’s social media account. Unless you’re just shitposting. Dr Petey’s son, what are you saying. You have to choose your words with *less care* bc you’re *writing* wtf
It's like the sentence is fighting with itself. It's significantly more coherent if you just delete the word undue. Because the care that writing allows is an advantage.
he needs an irl editor for the words coming out of his mouth
peterson is just mad that back in his day you had to be rich, or famous, or have the support of a publisher or production company in order for your voice to be heard. but now because of social media (and twitter in particular), anyone can say something that millions of people can read or hear, and he doesn’t believe they deserve, or have earned that platform and attention.
Honest to god cannot tell if they put a filter on Peterson's voice or if he just naturally sounds that ridiculous
nah he's just bad kermit
It’s all natural baby 😂
Tryit it's yours tiityou er er terazen xx w my friend duy
He always sounds like he's on the verge of tears. Like a child who's voice rises higher trying not to cry towards the end of every sentence. 🥺
it's so wild how with his "democratization of communication" bit he's literally complaining about how anybody on twitter is able to voice their opinions, regardless of social status, capital, etc. when. like. his entire group's supposed thing is free speech. it's truly a mask off moment of "when i say free speech i mean i want free speech for myself, not for my critics or those who i think are wrong," but it's all undercut by him deepthroating a thesaurus
Republicans are hypocrites in every single aspect of their beliefs. They are truly pathetic.
"I would rather die than call a person by their chosen pro nouns for I am a free speech warrior!" JP
"There should be a way we can stop how and what people say online" also JP
I'm studying far right online influencers and what is interesting about Peterson is he seems to have this deep-seated paranoia and fear of any change to the status quo, as if any attempt to engage with systemic issues will ruin this *perfect society* we have now.
That sounds interesting. Could you give me some specific examples I cant make sense of his senile circular reasoning
@@mykaylajacques9816 I think the clearest example that occurs to me rn is in 12 Rules For Life with the chapter "put your house in perfect order before you criticize the world". Big Joel did a good explanation of it but basically it presupposes that in order for anyone to be able to validly criticize the world outside of themselves, they must have fixed everything possible about themselves
@@jordanetherington1922 ok yea that makes no sense. I understand the before you pick out the splinter in my eye take out log in yours, but if jordan truly believed in that he would not be able to talk ever
What a miserable thing to study. I can’t imagine having to learn about these assholes on a regular basis.
ayo do you happen to study the dreaded cue anon (spelling changed on purpose)
i think what he means by "twitter removes all these limitations" is that while traditionally, people have had to either be wealthy or establish credentials through a wealthy institution in order to communicate on a mass scale, twitter allows just anyone to speak to a large audience. he's weeping and shitting bc people don't need a certain net worth or # of degrees to laugh at him on twitter lol. oh the postmodern horror of it all!
Lmfao yeah this is his desperate attempt to uphold systematic oppression/silencing of the masses
He’s such a blatant fascist
I think it’s also because some of those people have good ideas too. It must really sting to be debunked by high school dropouts and poor people who have the ability to use google and prove him wrong in minutes.
The first time I heard of Jordan Peterson was on the Maintenance Phase podcast, and my brain will always replay Michael Hobbes calling his book "un-fucking-readable." He and Aubrey Gordon try to make heads or tails of ONE PARAGRAPH for almost half the episode. It's so full of parentheticals and weird circular references they just can't stop laughing.
I love their podcast! Both hosts are experienced in reading dense academic texts, so that episode was vindicating. Peterson's argument that ~fairytale witches are real~ was peak Nothing. I'm a graduate student, and Peterson's rhetoric is absolutely arcane.
Absolutely amazing
Hell yes, love maintenance phase
What episode is this?
@@morganpetts9608 I think it's episode 1 of Maintenance Phase's 2 part series on Jordan Peterson's Carnivore Diet. They aired in March 2022!
"Dr. Spinkles and Mr. Tall" sounds like a romance movie about two delightful elderly British men who are neighbors and slowly fall in love
I would watch that movie on the spot and I don't even like romance movies. Your comment made my day and it deserves way more likes
i've never understood why so many people treat this old drug addled mentally disturbed dude as some kind of smart dude to take advice from
Because he have a psychology diploma some people are like Well he must be smart
Even tho hes just a misogyn, racist, homophobic and religious traditionalist that dont believe in god but hes scared of the possibility of god xD oh and he sell class online like every incels influencers
It's because he uses fancy ass words even when they aren't needed or don't even make sense.
Currently I think he is just living on old hype.
18:27 he doesn't like twitter because it gives everyone a platform, forcing him to hear other opinions instead of just repeating himself and his echo chamber. twitter actually makes him see how the majority feel about topics, and they don't agree with him, and instead of taking that information, digesting it and reflecting upon himself and how he may be wrong, he lashes out at us idiots who aren't "worthy" of having an opinion. also, the "anyone can comment on anyone regardless of social status" thing shows how ugly he truly is. If you are below his social status, you don't matter. to summarize: old white straight man is angry non old white straight men have differing opinions and will voice them as aggressively as he voices his own
Exactly, this is what I got from what he was saying (albeit very unclearly). It shows how elitist he is and how he views himself on a pedestal above literally everyone else
What makes me the most sad about the whole Jordan Peterson thing is he has made a mockery of psychology and it's usefulness in understanding and navigating the ever-evolving interpersonal and societal changes we are all going through. I love this field and people like him have destroyed my faith in the leaders of the field and their willingness to actually provide real, objective, apolitical help to people. They need to be able to provide advice and theory and research that challenge or offend their personal beliefs about how the world works, depending on what might be best for their patient or the people listening to them. You can't create a group of people who just follow your philosophy like a Messiah.
Edit: FTW - as someone who understands psychology-prof speak and has spent years reading and critiquing psychology papers as a way of learning how to properly and effectively get a point across - I cannot understand half of what Peterson is trying to say. Most of the time he just speaks in a jumbled mess of key words like he's an AI bot in its first iteration that is being designed to write abstracts for research papers. It's incomprehensible.
This video so badly made me want to edit his "essay" that he read to be actually functional. Like I wrote better than this in my first year of undergrad he cannot be allowed to flaunt his phd like it has any meaning anymore
@@ravenwilliams7636 he was a senior professor at what was supposed to be an esteemed psychology school for my province and that's devastating
I have no real understanding of psychology, but I like big words.
And it's so obvious to me he only uses them to appear eloquent and sophisticated without actually being those things.
@@ngotemna8875 that's totally fair.
I just also know that sometimes when getting into deep psychological conversation sometimes professors can use a lot of big words in a way where the ending sentence actually makes sense. It's pretentious and it's not the easiest way to explain things, but at least it makes sense. But that requires an actual understanding of both the words you're using and the concept you're trying to get across. Peterson has neither and it's an excellent way of making viewers who wouldn't understand the concept or the words feel smart because Peterson mixes those types of sentences in with blatant statements of facist ideology they already agree with.
@@ngotemna8875 big boy likes his big words... but he _does not_ like actually learning real facts
i mean his viewpoint on twitter is really inherently discriminatory. he reminisces about old barriers in media that kept out the “noise”, made by poor and black and trans and gay and otherwise oppressed people who now have the ability to amplify their voices and renounce bigotry against them. it seems he’s just mad that now, the people he is constantly saying discriminatory and often reprehensible things about are able to fight back and speak about their own viewpoints.
Normal human: I don't like McDonalds
Jordan Peterson: The provocative nature of how we exploit a vessel of meat in a machine of our economic greed displeases my personal aura.
Wrong because Pordan Jeterson would never ever critique capitalism so eloquently
This man's entire personality is constructed around him popping open a thesaurus once and thinking that he suddenly knows everything he's talking about. No matter the subject.
It's funny because it's so f+cking true. "-I penned a tweet-" like stfu nobody HAS EVER 'PENNED A TWEET.' 💀
Which is why it's so funny to me when he mispronounces "monopolistic."
jordan peterson is a powerpuff girls villain. i rest my case.
not charming enough
@@DrTomoe-em7rs not queercoded enough, either.
not colorful enough
I think he's worried that if he wears red everyone in the office is going to pop a boner or something.
If true, then he'd have one episode only. Like a relative of Powerpuff Princess.
@@lesbianjimmyfallon Well he DOES keep talking about how much he loves meat though
It's fucking insane to me how much conservative ideology boils down to wanting, hell, demanding to be liked regardless of how much they make everyone else's lives miserable.
They truly don't understand why people shit on them
Thank you so much for deciphering what Peterson is saying. My ADHD brain could not process a single sentence that came out of his mouth
Lol i am the same way
It's not your ADHD. The way he speaks is literally incomprehensible.
not only that, his sentences just Don't. Fucking. End.
When he's talking about barriers, I think what he's trying to say;
_"Back in my day you had to earn your voice. Now these _*_peasants_*_ are allowed to respond to me."_
It's so fragile.
*_"All the impotent anger bleeds into the real world."_*
He says. Sat in his living room in the real world. Where he is whining, impotently enraged, that people dared to say he was wrong on the internet...
😁
*_"Malignant Narcissism."_*
Is something Kermit The Fraud seems intimately familiar with.
I also love how he basically says _"institutional corruption within academia is fine and people should be afraid of us and our fragile egos."_
He's not supposed to say that stuff out loud. But there he is, arguing his privilege and the ability to exert it upon others _totally unjustified_ is fine. Regardless of the fact his students may be objectively correct.
It's like; _"I've earned the _*_right_*_ to opress you, how dare Twitter destroy the house of cards upon which my Fabergé Ego rests?! How dare they _*_democratise_*_ the power of ideas!!! I want the power to be mine mine mine!!!"_
Like, the venom with which he says the _democratised..._
This dude won't be missed.
Yknow what, this guy is actually helpful. I really overthink and get tired out from how much I've got going on inside my head but when he talks my brain completely shuts off so its kinda therapeutic in a way
These weird pseudointellectuals always underestimate the value of speaking clearly and using common words so that all of their audience can understand and not just the educationally privileged. It's really weird, you'd think they'd want to make all of their vast and special "intellect" easier for others to grasp(especially in Peterson's case since he's apparently a professor?).
Nah, that's COMMUNISM.
It's called doublespeak. They make sure to make what they say too fancy and complex to understand so others will think that they are smarter than them; so smart, in fact, that they can't even understand what's being said. Doublespeak has other characteristics too, such as vague and euphemistic language, but that's essentially it. What they are saying isn't smart, so they have to make it sound smart, and you can't deny that what's being said isn't smart when you don't understand what they're saying in the first place. A lot of pseudointellectuals and politicians, when using doublespeak, will imply that you aren't smart enough to understand them, so when they respond to your questions or say things, you can't just respond "What? I don't get what you mean." without it seeming like you're not smart, so people just back away and pretend they understood and not try to analyze it. Politics and other things can be talked about without talking like this, but if they drop the doublespeak, they wouldn't seem smart to the people who fall for the illusion.
I'd probably concede to the point about how his use of "academically privileged" language isn't accessible if it wasn't for the fact that most academically incline people don't even understand what he is talking about. The problem isn't the words he uses, but how the way he uses them makes no fucking sense.
The reason why so he has so many fans is because he dispenses so many dog whistles that even the dumbest among them can botice, and that's what they want to hear.
I think the reason why he does this however is because he just sounds like a blatant bigot whenever he uses plain language.
@@puggyboy694Fascinating analysis.
@christophernayar6543 Complex isn't the best way to describe it. In retrospect, it's more about sounding smart to them. Understanding what doublespeak is better now, I don't think my assessment is the most accurate. I don't remember writing the comment all that well. I think it might've been night when I wrote it. I'll probably rewatch the video another time and have a more accurate assessment of the topic.
Jokes on him, my mom never let me have social media and I was still depressed
i'm not proud of this fact but my aunt and uncle are friends with jordan peterson. enough that my aunt sent me and my sibs autographed copies of his book when we turned 18. i apparently met him at their wedding but i was like 11 so i don't remember. but ten years after i did discover the boy i fell in love with* that day was his son. weird to think the boy you spent a cherished summer afternoon with is the son of a man so antithetical to your entire being. small world. anyway, great video! your banter always kills me aksksls;;
*he had longish hair and wasn't mean to me so as a closeted lesbian and a child i thought that's what love was akfkdks
What a story. Wow. It is crazy that Jordan Peterson has friends. This is actually a wild story though.
that addendum at the end 😭 😂
Me, a lesbian, only liking feminine men and getting icks thinking about sleeping with them yet thinking I was in love from getting bare minimum kindness, appreciate your addendum as well 😂😂
That’s a crazy story. Sorry you have been in the presence of this man
its actually surprisingly easy for a conservative to get involved in your life, its pretty scary
When they started doing the Kermit voice I thought they were being dramatic...then they showed a clip
The way that he puts himself forward as an intellectual and then comes up w such a horrendously flawed psychological study that I, someone who has not done any psych classes in a decade, can easily find the flaw in that you cannot limit someone’s exposure to social media and to find someone who is a ‘clean slate’ who has not had any social media influence at all is near impossible Unless you decide to make the study about small children - which would then require following their growth for years, and probably border on unethical conduct because you would very much have to control these children’s lives instead of it being an observational study is just. It’s so bad literally no one in their right mind would pursue or find this study
Peterson’s the world’s best cryptofascist and he doesn’t even know it. He abides by the politics of obfuscation (which are necessary to normalize the fascist goal of mass racialized violence), depends heavily upon esoteric mythological concepts, uses his limited concept of biology as material, immutable fact, isn’t inclined to label himself. It’s almost funny, at this point.
I wish him a very [series of censored beeps].
i mean fortunately going mask off with the 'up yours woke moralists' after publicly falling apart for several years really reduced his power to do damage lmao
@@thomasstone3480 "we'll see who cancels who"
very well said and highly agreed
Excellent comment - except i feel he mostly does know how fashi he is.
He pretends he's not a grifter (yet he knew dang well he was lying about the bill - our bills are short, easy to read & all are online); using the phrase 'cultural marxist" (like it wasn't taught in our schools here that the phrase was/is a code used by the haters of Jewish people • at least used since at least the 1920s); downplaying the 'hollowcost' by saying AH had OCD & the pressure took him a bit overboard; had his pic taken with a pepe flag; & pics of him huggin' up on proudboys; admitting he would've voted for 45; he whitemansplained how racism & sexism aren't real *by saying white men deserve* (??) *privilge* cos *white men made everything* (??)".
He *totally* Knows but just doesn't care...
I was flatmates with 2 women who both worked with him & he's generally disliked by most faculty & students ‐ mostly cos he overtly acts in very bigoted ways whilst being confident yet fully incorrect • cos his attempts at plausible deniability don't work when its ones only M.O.
@@rizztrollman123 🤓
"i'm reading some of the pieces that i'm producing and that means that these are things that i wrote"- me, re-reading the introduction i wrote at 2 am
You boys are so cute when you're all giddy together.
ngl the chemistry is off the charts, would love to see another collab
I watch this video like once every two weeks. Every part of it is amazing, from "Walter Hartwell White" to "reading what I produced, which means these are things that I wrote" is brilliant.
My history of psychology professor HATES Peterson and calls him the Freud of our time. He frames every lecture around a new way Peterson was wrong about something and how to prevent making that same mistake in our own future. That man makes me question the University of Toronto for ever letting him teach.
(to be clear: my prof covers mistakes Peterson made as a professor. he can say whatever he wants in his free time but that loser just loves to go against academics while teaching students and that’s unacceptable)
god “the freud of our time” is such an apt description
I would kill to watch those lectures
Freud was way more intelligent and innovative. People will continue to talk about Freud long after JP is forgotten.
Did you actually mean "Freud", or were you trying to say "fraud?"
If it's the former, I'd be curious why your prof called him "the freud of our time".
@@SleepyMatt-zzzeud himself was a fraud, he was a lazy scientist who could twist literally anything into “evidence” for his ideas. He also had a strange fixation on reinterpreting the behavior of children as being sexual, such as saying that a young child being emotionally close to their mother is actually them being horny and not, you know, loving their parents. Dude, if you think a baby loving his mommy is because of an Oedipus complex, that says way more about you than human nature
Jordan Adika is easily best Jordan. Also, Peterson sounds like a muppet
hes kermit, its uncanny
@@clownshark_ Kermit doesn’t deserve this slander, he’s a Kermit impersonator 😂
@@sourgreendolly7685 lmaooo FAIR
he sounds like if a man ate kermit and is using his voice to continue speaking
@@kuruozemp3 lmfao
I think hidden in the whole accumulation of wealth, democratization of communication, blocking out the noise nonsense- was actually a pretty messed up take lol 😬I’m pretty sure he was saying that he thinks only people with access to enough money to publish their writing should be allowed to have a public opinion. he’s calling the people in his replies stupid and poor, and saying that he’s above critique
And he shields himself from that kind of criticism by asserting that the west is primarily a competence hierarchy and not a dominance hierarchy. The conclusion he wants his followers to come to is:
No followers/wealth/resources to express your opinions = lack of competence to express opinions.
He "avoids" the accusation by implying that power/influence and competence are correlated. "It's not that you don't deserve to have a voice because you don't have the reach, it's that you don't have the reach because you don't deserve to have a voice (because you don't have the competence)"
I think this reversal is crucial to right wing ideology and social Darwinism
I think the weird thing about him is that he himself doesn't realize that he is as chronically online as the people he is criticizing, even if he understands the problems with the social media format.
Basically what he's saying is that only people who have "earned" their way into being able to publish papers, books etc should be able to speak to the public at large. The fact that everyone on the internet has the ability to shout into the void and have others see it causes Jordan Peterson to get sad because he no longer gets to live in his bubble and ignore all the plebs who are beneath him.
As someone who is non-binary and is studying a degree falling under Biological Sciences I guess I don't actually have an understanding of basic biology then
Science literally agrees and supports the existence of trans people and the absence of a binary. He so stupid
Just because you have real life experience and academic knowledge doesn't mean you know stuff.
Clearly you need to watch more Jordan B Peterson videos.
The B stands for knowledge
“Basic biology” mfs when advanced (and up-to-date) biology walks in
@@ngotemna8875 yes yes my bad
It drives me nuts how these people refuse to understand that people who aren’t transphobic are not disputing that biological sex exists, we’re just saying it’s not inherently tied to the social presentation of gender, which is a different thing and more in the realm of psychology than biology. But they will not stop reducing the argument to “liberals don’t understand what chromosomes are” or something.
Jordan Peterson explaining family interactions just sounds like "My family and I talk about hate for several groups of people. Why does the larger society not let me share my hatred?"
Whenever I hear Jordan Peterson speak I keep hearing my teacher say "remember to keep your words simple enough for everyone to grasp" not because their too dumb to get what your saying but because you'd sound boring as hell. I wouldn't get through a Peterson video without someone cracking jokes about him.
I love how he was on Twitter this *whole* time and only arrived at the conclusion it was problematic *after* he got kicked off.
I’ve concluded that until he began suggesting the study, he actually had some valid points. The funny thing is that they are all reflections on his own behavior online. 1. If you were raised to speak a certain way, (like you are trying to meet the word count requirement for an essay) and you speak that way on Twitter, people might clown on you.
2. Twitter is a platform where anyone can post and people will listen, kind of like how he posts nonsensical ramblings and still has fans despite bringing in dire need of an editor.
3. Anyone can post lies on Twitter, start conspiracy theories, and manipulate public perception of something, kind of like how he did that with the misinformation that he has.
4. The lies and vitriol that a person posts online can incite real violence in the real world, like his has.
i wanna believe that anyone who genuinely likes this dude just can’t comprehend what he’s saying. if your brain is fast enough to decode his stupidly complex speeches you’ll notice he’s saying nothing but with the most words possible. honestly it’s impressive because i struggle reaching word counts in essays, but mf is exceeding it just off the top of his head lmao-
hi i’m a linguistics major, this dude is like a direct opposition to how spoken english works and it’s so scary. in most languages there are two forms, spoken and written. i was wondering why he was making me severely uncomfortable, this mf is speaking the written form of english. i’ve never heard anyone do this so effortlessly it’s making me genuinely upset. is he reading a script or something because i can’t accept that he can do this naturally- this is gonna keep me up at night. this makes him even more insufferable i hate this man :D
he is the opposite of the "you dont understand something completely until you can explain it to a child". This man, with 1000% more words than he needs, can explain shit to Victor Hugo and Victor Hugo only.
You’re so enthusiastically upset you sound happy lol
I didn't even realize that there's much of a difference between spoken and written English but you're right, he's speaking as if he's writing a (bad) essay in real time.
The amount of effort I have to put into processing anything that Jordan Peterson says is kind of amazing. I struggle to pay attention to people who communicate clearly, who I want to listen to, so imagine how difficult it is for me to even process anything he says, much less comprehend it
I understand him, he is just very intelligent and requieres you to get accustomed to his speech
someone tell that guy that an inability to explain something in a concise direct manner actually shows he doesn’t understand at all his subject and isn’t really concerned about anyone understanding it either as much as he cares about being perceived as intelligent by other people who think using the longest synonym of every word they mean makes them look smart
especially the run-on sentences. It's one thing to use a bunch of big words to intentionally obfuscate what you're saying, but my god it's like he's trying to be as inconcise as possible. He talks like how I wrote in 10th grade when I thought I was already a master writer lmao
That or he has a traumatic brain injury or disability that inhibits communication skills, but those of us with issues like that usually disclose it ahead of time.
@@GoddoDoggo pretty sure the crypto-fascist isn’t disabled, he talks like that to give a sense of legitimacy to his nonsensical emotional breakdowns about being ratio’d on twitter
@@littlechickeyhudak yeah lmao, it’s like he thinks fancy words will make up for his lack of structure or coherence. the rambling thing would pass better if it was really a spontaneous rant lol, but he writes a script beforehand and you bet he spends time editing it. don’t believe that someone who’s such a mess is well read enough to naturally use half of the words he’s spitting out.
I did not expect the Transphobic Kermit impression to be so accurate.
I want a full-length documentary of just Jordan doing funny voices
The way Jordan Peterson speaks is like he is constantly halfway into having a stroke, but can't quite get there.
As a trans person, this is just…. So nice. It’s nice to have positive content
i love ethan and jordan's completely stunned looks of confusion after jordan peterson speaks
How do all these Peterson-types get away with saying SO MUCH without saying anything of substance? The stans must just get a hyper-ego from thinking they're "intellectual" for "getting it".
They get away with it because there are a lot of stupid people who buy into it.
His basic point: im like higher class and the lesser class shouldn't be allowed to be mean to me
jp's weird rant about twitter is like when someone has a really bad breakup and they start saying shit like "maybe humans weren't meant to be monogamous"
Y'all know that Tyleer the Creator tweet thats like "how are you getting cyperbullied hahaha just close your eyes hahaha" ?? I think jordan peterson should just close his eyes to solve 90 percent of his problems
I think closing his eyes wouldn’t solve any because every problem he has is made up in his head
As a Canadian. We don’t claim him. He is not our muppet.
@@mrspreminger Justin Trudeau
@@mrspreminger Ted Cruz
Is he a man or is he a muppet
@@cateatpasta5990 oh as a British person we are not claiming him. We may have issues but I would very much like to avoid adding him to them
One thing I'll give ol papa JP is that he's doing his part to dispel the ridiculous myth that Canadians are nice
Jbp is so unhinged it would be funny if it wasn't for the the fact that he's incredibly damaging to marginalised groups and not just himself. If only people didn't think he was smart for "knowing big words"
Which is a direct result of the rightwing pandemic of NOT knowing ANY words.
unrelated but i love your Walter Shy pfp haha
Fun fact, we're encouraged to avoid legalize when in court for that very reason. At least in Canadian courts. Not sure what you guys do down there in America.
My friend is a teaching assistant at the same university Peterson works, and he is a faculty nightmare.
the whole “i got your favorite fruit loops” and “did you take out the blue ones” convo made me crack up
One of the most exhausting things about the last several years has been being forced to confront how fragile powerful people are.
My Dad is a Jordan Peterson stan, it's so sad how his very general advise gets people hooked in to think like him.
Rather than think it's sad, try to understand why it happens because that's a better way to fight it. In any time of societal change, there will be people who feel alienated, angry and confused. Some of those people will be older and some will be younger. Jordan Peterson's advice is extremely appealing to those people.
@@Kyarrix I’m lost in this whole thing tbh. Could you let me in on what societal change is occurring in America as we speak?
@@CajunCouillon Are you really asking why people, largely young white men, who are angry and alienated find someone like Jordan Peterson appealing? Are you saying that you're unaware of societal change? It's difficult for me to credit your question as being in good faith.
What do you think is behind the appeal of someone like Jordan Peterson who wraps a distinctly conservative worldview into general self-help and advice? Why do you think his advice is appealing to many?
What do you think is behind the appeal of Donald Trump? It is similar. You appeal to people who feel that they are losing their power, who think that the gains of other groups come at their expense. People who believe that progress is a zero sum game. Those are the people who are vulnerable to an appeal to conservatism. They want to go back to the halcyon days of yore when things were simpler, when things were, as they perceive, better. The thing is, things were not better for everyone back in those days. They were better for the segment of the population that finds Jordan Peterson appealing.
It isn't lost on me that you are willfully misunderstanding what I was saying. It isn't societal change in America "as we speak" , it is change that has been happening for a while and ideally would continue and speed up. If you are a traditional white male from your perspective the gains of women, minorities, groups that had been disenfranchised, all of their gains feel like they come at your expense. Someone like Jordan Peterson says women should have children in their early twenties rather than competing with men in the workplace. He says hierarchy is good and divine! God made hierarchy, men are order and women are chaos. He'll tell you that women wear makeup in the workplace to simulate sexual arousal in order to attract men. It isn't true, but if you are an angry disaffected alienated man, it feels true to you. All of this is extremely appealing to someone who feels at a loss and suspects that their share of power and influence is being reduced. If you are used to having the lion's share, equality feels like oppression when it isn't.
If you genuinely want to engage on the topic in good faith, do so. If you're looking to troll, find someone else.
@@Kyarrix Was my comment rly angled to troll, or are you just so sensitive that it seemed that way to you? I asked a genuine question and was somehow trying to light a fire under you? That’s a load of shit and also why nothing can progress forward in this sensitive ass society. Because feelings come before common sense nowadays and it is pathetic, to say the least.
It’s not healthy to assume everyone is out to get you and assuming I was deliberately trying to troll you. You still never answered my question. You just bitched about white skin, as expected.. I was just hoping for the best, but was severely disappointed. So thanks for that.👌
@@CajunCouillon gays getting married, trans people existing in public, women working with men, non-Christians, there's a lot.
Every time I hear his name I think of that “and the rat goes like this” thing he’s such a silly little guy it’s so laughable that anyone would truly look up to him
Millions do look up to him though. Whenever you have significant change in a society there will be people who are angry, confused and alienated as a result. Those are the people who Jordan Peterson reaches with his general advice folded into a kind of old timey conservatism that can be appealing to them. That's why it is as dangerous as it is and the primary reason I wish they had focused at least in part on why the advice is appealing, who it appeals to, and how to better fight against it.
I've lost two friends to Jordan Peterson's advice. At the time I didn't have the tools to help debunk it.
@@Kyarrix I'm sorry for your loss. I don't mean to be insensitive, but since you brought it up, I have a couple of questions regarding your second sentence [note: second paragraph, actually]. What precisely is it you weren't able to debunk? And what tools do you have now you didn't have before to do so?
@@sapphirevaltiel I'm not sure if you're trolling or not. I suspect that you might be. You don't have to be sorry for my loss, no one died, I just lost a couple of friends who fell into Jordan Peterson world and were not able to extricate themselves.
What do you think I was referring to? If you believe that women represent chaos and men represent order then you too have fallen into Peterson's weirdly regressive way of thinking. He also says that women wear makeup at work in order to simulate sexual arousal. Do you believe that too? Or just things like you should clean up your room before venturing out into the world to create positive change? That's another of his aphorisms. He is not a fan of younger people working for social change, for various reasons.
Jordan Peterson is attractive to people who feel lost, confused, many of them angry in a changing world where they aren't sure of their role anymore. People who yearn for the halcyon days of yore when things were more clear cut.
The problem with those so-called halcyon days is that they weren't, not for most people. Not for women, not for minorities, not for people who were different in any way. They were great though for people who were white, male and middle class. For those folks, the slightest leveling of the playing field feels like oppression now. Of course they want to return to the past, return to a time when women didn't compete in the workplace. Jordan Peterson says women should be having children in their early twenties and if they aren't, they are emotionally damaged. He believes that women and men working together in the workplace is an experiment that we might well do without.
How am I better equipped? I'm older, and I know more. I've read his books, I can critique them effectively and the thinking that underpins them.
I'm not sure what you're really asking and I suspect you might be trolling so I'll stop here. If you want to clarify your question, please do so and I'll respond.
this is genuinely one of my favorite videos of all time. i go back to watch it at least once a month. whenever i'm bored of my recommendations. it legit makes me laugh out loud every single time i watch it
There should be exercises in High School English classes that require students to take a JP lecture transcript and reduce it down to 25% of it's original length while retaining the same basic meaning. 10% for the AP classes.
It's so funny to me that he had to assemble an entire production team to make multiple videos crying about how Twitter was mean to him
He works with Prager U, who are bought by big oil, so it's not really surprising.
He talks about how being able to shout IRL is a privilege, either by social capital or economic capital - to the point you can literally hire someone to do it for you. And on twitter it disappears, anyone can shout.
It's so JP to acknowledge power structures and inequalities, but then be like yeah that's there because it's supposed to be. He assumes it's a meritocracy or at least the most stable (conservatism) / strongest (fascism) system.
"shield us from racket in the-what does that even mean" I THINK he's gesturing at the idea of academic gatekeeping. Like it used to be that you had to be in academic spaces to call him a dumbass and he's upset that professional buffer isn't there to protect him from the mean words
Now that you've mentioned he sounds like Kermit, I can't unhear it. Incel Kermit feels like an insult to Kermit the Frog.
No lie, this video is the only video that gets me to sleep at night bc have really bad insomnia I'd like to thanks JP, JD, and piss man
So this is a funny vid and all but was Jordan Peterson’s Twitter rant about how it’s bad that people can reach a wider audience without being wealthy, aligning themselves with a larger institution, and/or getting a higher education? Like, he’s mad that a public forum exists that is accessible for all levels of society?
I get that the way he’s speaking is goofy, but that’s some serious far-right bullshit. He literally says that the “democratization of communication” is bad because only rich or “successful” people can be moral or correct, which he supports by saying that people can form angry mobs on Twitter.
In his narrative, successful = competent and deserving. This is what he's pushing, and it should be alarming
Amazing how Peterson can say almost nothing for half an hour
"Up yours, woke moralists!" is one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life istg
English is not my first language, but still quite fluent. Everytime I hear Jordan talk my brain goes completely blank, he says every word I've never heard of before. So ehm thanks for the translation
English is my first language and i’m still SO confused when I hear him talk, I cannot understand him, he sounds like he’s talking in calligraphy
13:05 As a trans teen, I can confirm that I have been rick rolling him to sabotage his shoes
As a fellow trans teen I can completely confirm this thought, it’s my favorite past time (other then being trans which as we know is my whole personality)
@@Potentiallychaotic Oh of course, we're unable to have any personal traits other than being trans, that's common knowledge :) (well, that and rickrolling)
@@Lee-wf4kr (And the pushing the gay agenda, can’t forget that one)
I would love to see him teach a class that these two would sit in on just to interrupt him and clown on him
I misread this title as “Jordan Adika’s weird brain” and was worried it was a hit piece on you
Listening to Jordan Peterson talk just makes me think of George Orwell writing about the degredation of language and communication due to all the added vocal fluff and such. The dude is literally just saying words 💀
the way he speaks just makes me feel like I'm 7 in a dingy hotel room watching the history channel explain how aliens built the pyramids well past midnight
i constantly come back to this video.. you guys tearing down jp's pseudo-intellectual posturing is so fucking funny