I consider myself to be a smart person; but even I was left rubbing my temples and wondering why my eyes were trying to melt out of my head from the pressure.
To the thesaurus! Hmm. 🤔 The Engage action! Oh, no, wait; everybody is just gonna get confused and end up married to their enemies by the end of the campaign. 💍 😗 😅
This has become a point of contention in a few different games I've been part of, especially when it comes to breath weapons. How I explain the issue to them is by going over the actual wording on PHB pg 192 (5e) where it says under Actions In Combat-Attack "With this action, you make one melee or ranged attack." and show at the bottom how Extra Attack is specifically mentioned only under the attack action, then show how casting a spell is a different action entirely and finally going to the breath weapon description and showing how it says it takes an action as well (effectively forcing the choice between attack action or the others). HOWEVER, the rule of cool has always had me adjust the rules for my players. In 3.5e, I let them use their attack with the highest possible bonus to substitute for a spell or breath weapon. In 5e, I let them make their first attack either the spell or the breath and all other attacks that turn have a penalty of -3. My players enjoy that balance and it means I can justify throwing bigger things at them. Win-Win.
It can be a little confusing, but calling it the attack action makes sense. The problem falls in the fact that not many synonyms for attack work, aside from possibly calling it the “melee action”, which feels a little immersion breaking to say, personally, because very few people talk that way. I think the solution lies in trying to find a new way to designate “spell attack rolls” and other phrases like that. “Spell accuracy/aim roll”, for instance.
Probably keep it as 'Attack'for the action name and then use synonyms instead of using the word 'attack' again. So like 'when you make a melee weapon strike' and 'whenever you roll to hit with a spell'
Okay. I will capitalise when it is the name of the action. If I am a 5th level fighter, ranger, monk, barbarian or some others (like 6th level valour bard), I get a feature called Extra Attack which allows me to attack twice whenever I take the Attack action. So I Attack as my action which allows me to attack twice. I can replace one attack with a shove or grapple if I want. I roll an attack roll for any of the attacks I make. Or I could instead take the Cast a Spell action. And cast Booming Blade. Which requires me to make a weapon attack as part of the spell. I roll an attack roll for that spell attack. But it isn't the Attack action.
@@RobertHartleyGM after reading through the "Actions in Combat" section, I think calling them the "Weapon Action" and "Spell Action" may have been a better choice.
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I went to thesaurus, and one of the strongest synonyms to attack is violation. So i raise you, the violation action!
The first synonym that came to my mind was ‘offense’ but I can kind of understand why they didn’t want to call it the Offensive Action. 😁
Great DM and actor.
As a DM to multiple new player spellcasters I felt this one
I consider myself to be a smart person; but even I was left rubbing my temples and wondering why my eyes were trying to melt out of my head from the pressure.
To the thesaurus!
Hmm. 🤔
The Engage action!
Oh, no, wait; everybody is just gonna get confused and end up married to their enemies by the end of the campaign. 💍 😗 😅
I'm just here for the way that you say " says" bro
A long time ago I struggled with the concept of cantrip.
Esp with the episode of Rowan being a rules lawyer.
I needed to listen to this a few time to follow. Never played d and d but I love watching and hearing all the cool stories and characters .
Why do I feel like Rob used an attack action to explain that to us? Because my head exploded. 😅
And this is why PF2 calls it a "Strike". :)
This has become a point of contention in a few different games I've been part of, especially when it comes to breath weapons.
How I explain the issue to them is by going over the actual wording on PHB pg 192 (5e) where it says under Actions In Combat-Attack "With this action, you make one melee or ranged attack." and show at the bottom how Extra Attack is specifically mentioned only under the attack action, then show how casting a spell is a different action entirely and finally going to the breath weapon description and showing how it says it takes an action as well (effectively forcing the choice between attack action or the others).
HOWEVER, the rule of cool has always had me adjust the rules for my players. In 3.5e, I let them use their attack with the highest possible bonus to substitute for a spell or breath weapon. In 5e, I let them make their first attack either the spell or the breath and all other attacks that turn have a penalty of -3. My players enjoy that balance and it means I can justify throwing bigger things at them. Win-Win.
Action surge on an Eldritch knight. Have fun figuring out what actions just happened :)
That's what I still struggle with. Read and reread. That's what my DM tells me.
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Makes perfect sense to me. Loved the vibe here
It can be a little confusing, but calling it the attack action makes sense. The problem falls in the fact that not many synonyms for attack work, aside from possibly calling it the “melee action”, which feels a little immersion breaking to say, personally, because very few people talk that way.
I think the solution lies in trying to find a new way to designate “spell attack rolls” and other phrases like that. “Spell accuracy/aim roll”, for instance.
I like this. It also makes Ray of emfeeblement make a bit more sense as it’s an attack roll that doesn’t deal damage
Yes. This part was so confusing i spent like two days understanding it
and i still don't think I do........ so many different "attacks" exist
In a perfect world where they had consulted you, what would Attack have been called?
Probably keep it as 'Attack'for the action name and then use synonyms instead of using the word 'attack' again.
So like 'when you make a melee weapon strike' and 'whenever you roll to hit with a spell'
I'm more confused now. Can you go deeper with examples?
Okay. I will capitalise when it is the name of the action.
If I am a 5th level fighter, ranger, monk, barbarian or some others (like 6th level valour bard), I get a feature called Extra Attack which allows me to attack twice whenever I take the Attack action.
So I Attack as my action which allows me to attack twice. I can replace one attack with a shove or grapple if I want. I roll an attack roll for any of the attacks I make.
Or I could instead take the Cast a Spell action. And cast Booming Blade. Which requires me to make a weapon attack as part of the spell. I roll an attack roll for that spell attack. But it isn't the Attack action.
@@RobertHartleyGMhmm, thanks. Weird. Maybe they should call it the Combat Action or Physical Action? I see your point.
@@RobertHartleyGM after reading through the "Actions in Combat" section, I think calling them the "Weapon Action" and "Spell Action" may have been a better choice.
I bet bg3 grinds your gears
A lot
If the attack action should be called “Violation,” should Dodge be called “I do not consent?”
is thesaurus brother of stegosaurus?
Cousin to the short sighted dinosaur, doyouthinkhesaurus