Stop Motion | Adjusting the Frame Rate with Haruhi’s Steps | Haruhi Suzumiya
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- Опубликовано: 18 мар 2023
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Yamanaka Misaki : When using 24 fps for a stop motion shoot, I usually made realistic moves, but this time, I challenged myself to make 2D movement. In this stop motion shoot, I kept in mind to make the arms and legs in the right angle, despite the fast movement.
Kasubuchi Rio : It took so much time to compound Haruhi’s moves in 24fps and 8 fps. Since 24 fps Haruhi’s shadow was overlapping the 8 fps Haruhi, I carefully cut out the shadow without making it look unnatural. It took 16.5 hours to shoot, 24.5 hours to edit, and shot 164 frames.
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The 24fps is clearly smoother, but there is something charming about the slightly stilted 8fps. Very cool, thank you!
The diffrences
Between these two
One is who has better pc and good WiFi
The other was shitty network and cheap pc
i think 8fps leaves a lot of work to the brain! so the animation seems more impactful!
This is a great example of why framerates can and should be mixed in animation, imo. There is a charm to the broad motion being choppy, but the rapid flourish at the end needs a higher framerate to come through.
@@unkown3168 Me trying to play MINECRAFT with some LITE MODS vs Someone using 30 thousand mods SMOOTH and complaining about lack of content 💀
Pro I can't tell the fucking difference
This smooth animation isn't gonna get you out of answering for your many war crimes, Haruhi.
Endless eight will forever haunt haruhi
I guess that means we’re never gonna give you up
@@wildfire9280 wow
@@wildfire9280 or let you down
@@pigeonking5095never gonna run around and desert you
24 fps: good
8 fps: *my name is miles morales*
Basically 8 fps is the Spider-Man Miles Morales world😂😂😂
Miles's framerate is just 12 fps before he accept being the new spider man
Edit : I corrected something
B u guessed
Ain't it 12 fps??? Correct me if I'm wrong but i think it is. (I understand that this comment was just a joke)
😂
24fpsでこんなに感動する日が来るとは....
As an animator I’ve never something so fluid in 8 fps
it really isnt how many fps you use, its how you lay out your motions and frames. actually, most people tend to thing animations of a lower fps are smoother when done correctly!
@@skullsnbones_It's just that there is no need for animation with 20+ fps. It will simply be extra money spent on extra personnel. The more FPS, the worse. Especially considering that many animators make animations in 2 frames (the frame is repeated 2 times) or even in 3 frames (the frame is repeated 3 times)
@@skullsnbones_i love how you say something so incorrect with such confidence, stating it like a fact, as if you have a study backing up your opinion.
I played Mudrunner in 5fps, can confirm
Sometimes lowest fps still tolerable
@@Webiwelcome to the internet. Where everyone is an expert of everything
The clock on 24 fps:
*M a d e i n h e a v e n*
IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?!?
The
*M A D E I N H E A V E N*
Make me small laugh but that might ok to me. PHAAAAA-
What have you started bro💀
@@lupi_u_oh I was thinking Claire Redfield’s jacket lmai
@@lupi_u_no. It's a Queen reference.
I like how noone is noticing the clocks in the background bacially telling u how long it takes to make high quality animations
I noticed
I can't tell with the 24fps one because it looks like it's glitching. 😂
@@RavenclawDaisy95That's because it's jumping backwards, that means it took days
Wydm everyone is talkin about it
@@NowRiley the side step repeat 4 times so instead of animating it 4 times (16hours) he just loop the same secuence 4 times (4hours)
“ハルヒ”の動きをさせるだけでもかなり難しい。しかも“女性”の動きを忠実に表現してしかも“可愛らしく”って…。
ただ“コマ送りを作る”以上の巧みさが滲み出てる👍
正に“神業”❗️It's a miracle❣️
Agreed!!
24 is for sure smoother, but 8 is so cute as if she’s dancing by herself as an action figure
No comment?
Hmm
@@Landongsangebabi ion 😊
@@godbiessyour ion☺
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The 24 fps is so smooth you forget how much effort is involved, it's like it's come to life on it's own.
I'd say it's almost uncanny!
Amazing
it's literally 4 times longer
i was half expecting it to jump out at the screen at the end.
@@Lightmagician60I think you meant 3x longer 😅
The stop motion vibes and soft pauses are something magic...
8ｺﾏはアニメをそのまま3次元に召喚した感じで、24ｺﾏはもうハルヒの魂が宿っててスゴい...!!
So looking at the clock, the 8 FPS one took around 3 hours for the whole thing while the 24 FPS one took 4 hours just for the little side to side and around a whole 12 hours (possibly more) for the whole thing. Crazy hard work right there.
I think you mean twelve hours
@@lookimnotracistbut5695Watch the hour hand again on the right. It resets like 3 times.
@@narhwallord6985 I'm pretty sure the creator used his brain to create the first part once and loop it a couple of time and do the rest after. So if you actually look at the clock after the last reset, you can see the hour pointer did a whole 360 which makes it 12 hours.
@@sens1tiv838 oh shit y’all are right. My caffeinated brain thought that a 360 meant a whole 24 hours for a moment there. Gonna change it quick.
@@nuclearcrackeryou just need more caffeine
Animation with just a sprinkle of choppiness has so much soul to me, I love it
What's there to like about stutter? Just curious cuz once I discovered 60fps and beyond I can't look at 30 or 24 the same anymore. Mind you I was like 3 to 4 years ago that couldn't see a difference between 30 and 60 fps
@@jovannydiazabad6123to me 8fps looks more like anime
@@kkngd391 but wouldn't you want anime with more smoothness to it, more fluidity, legibility in movement?
@@jovannydiazabad6123No, for me, anime has that choppiness like a cartoon, and thats what makes it special, thats why i like the 8fps better
@@jovannydiazabad6123 takes all the weight out of the movement, because the animation is made with less frames in mind increasing that digitally makes all the movements feel and look lifeless and just plain unnatural.
The difference between 90's and today's animation : both are good
やっぱり映画の24フレームって大事なんですねぇ。
作品みがエグい。
ですね。
やっぱアニメは２４コマでいいんだよ。
昔のCGの３０コマとか何だったんだろう。
8 fps has that glorious “robot chicken” look to it
That’s what I thought
I thought that’s too lmao
EXACTLY hahahah
Exactly what I was thinking
Yeah...not so much lower quality but a valid style choice.
24 fps = 12 hours
8 fps = 4 hours
Very nice
12 fps= 6 hours
16 fps= 8 hours
actually more than double those numbers but yes
Does this refer to how long he took to shoot the motion?
@@IzMyVideoz no it's just some ignorant idiot posting memes. Read the description.
@@IzMyVideoz
In this particular video, yes.
フレームレートの違いがわかりやすい動画
Both animations are amazing, especially the 24fps.
Haruhi’s dance is adorable and iconic.
8fps= those old Christmas cartoons on VHS and laser disc
24fps= Robot chicken
you got it reversed....
@@spacemanmonster23are you sure robot chicken runs at 8fps?
Sorry but... I'M CONfused!?
@@Not_Tails I thought it runs at something between the two framerates
Not as choppy as 8, not as smooth as 24
@@BierBart12robot chicken was 30fps
It makes me realize how tough it is to make a 24 frame video that last more than 5 minutes.
Edit: Thx for the likes and replies. I don't get this much attention everyday.
Ya man . Those pro movies that use stop motion 😳
24 frames per second
Meaning 24•60= 1440 frames per minute
1440•5= 7200.
7200 pictures for a 5 min video??!!!
That’s a lot
@@sero3113 👽
Agreed, but do have a closer look at the watch ⌚ on the left. It's easier to also repeat the movement when possible.
@Casual Gaming They must have been in production for years.
The melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya was my favorite anime hands down growing up 😂😂😂 Haruhi was the waifu
すげえな…人間みたいにヌルッヌルに動かせるの尊敬します。
え？人間ですよ？
@@admgtmgp
人間みたいに→人形の動きが人間みたいに
人形が生きとるんやろ
@@ZEN6832_
ありがとう
Hajima mashe dattebayo
24fpsから8fps取り出して比較でなく、両方とも撮ってる律儀さに感服。
途中を抜いたんだな…
メガホン持ってる！！！
確かに比較するだけなら必要ないじゃん…言われて気づいたわ。
Same it's pretty detailed
Solo son 8 fotos más xd
Bruh he just shot the 24 fps one and then cut out the extra frames
THANK YOU! You actually animated them separately! This is a true comparison between low and high fps animation!
I _hate_ it when other RUclipsrs try showing the difference between lower fps and higher fps animations by just using random frames from the high fps one for the lower fps one. That’s not how it works! Of _course_ the low fps animation is always gonna look worse when you’re literally just taking frames away! It HAS to be made from the ground up! With every frame they make, the animator has the chance to add more detail. They can add mannerisms important to a particular character, or express movement in a particular way. The animator cannot do that if they’re not making the frames themselves. If you’re only picking frames from an animation that _already exists_ purely to make it have a lower fps, then you’re exclusively removing detail from the scene. You might remove half of a small gesture, or make the character move across the screen inconsistently. _However,_ if you build the animation from the ground up, it won’t matter if the scene is at a lower fps. You can keep that detail in. You can purposefully pose the character differently to show the original intent of the scene.
As an example, imagine someone making a 24fps animation where a sassy character makes some finger guns. Because the animator has additional frames, they have the ability to draw out and exaggerate the movement a little to show a bit of that sassiness. If you for whatever reason wanted that scene in 8 fps, you have two options: literally take every other frame from the 24fps animation, or build the entire animation from the ground up. The first one, while undebatably faster, would miss a lot of detail. Removing 2/3rds of all of the frames might make the drawn-out finger guns look less drawn-out. With less frames, the finger guns wouldn’t look as different from an un-sassy character doing finger guns. Suddenly it’s harder to notice that the character is intentionally going slower than they could. However, if you were to build that 8 fps animation from the ground up, you’d have the ability to purposefully pick whatever frames you need to show that sassiness. You could draw the scene out even longer to get the sassiness across, or make the movement even more exaggerated. This way you wouldn’t be losing any detail even with the lower amount of frames.
This logic goes backwards too. To everyone that has seen those videos where an AI interpolates anime to make it 60 or 120 fps: you were duped! You CANNOT make any assumptions about higher-than-24 fps animation through those videos! Those extra frames that the AI adds do not show any extra detail! If those 120 fps animations had been made from the ground up, the animators would have used those extra frames to show more detail (like subtle quick movements that just wouldn’t work on lower frame rates). What the AI does is compare the two real frames and adds an extra one that averages them out. Have you ever paused an animation while a character is moving and they look smeared across the screen? The AI interpolated frames are essentially just that. And if you try to go from a 24 fps to a 120 fps animation, you’re essentially adding almost _100 smear frames_ per second! Of _course_ they’re gonna look bad! Animation with fps that high is not inherently bad or worse, as a lot of people assumed. That soap opera effect present in those AI videos doesn’t need to be there. If someone ever goes through the ridiculous task of actually building a 120 fps animation from the ground up, give it a chance. Those AI interpolated videos did not give you a good idea as to how they could look.
I learned something valuable today. Thanks!
wtf
I like the 8fps better on the side stepping. But the elaborate dance looks nicer in 24fps.
どっちも良さがあるな。ぎごちない感じもぬるぬる動く感じも好き
Qtaro Kujo?) 3 part, arc with grandpa(sry for my English :) )
what did he say
Chin Chen Chuan chin
怖いて…なんでここにも君がいるん…アイコン同じだし…
@@kadeis-dumI have no idea
Beautiful animation, and the clock at the back shows how much time and effort it takes to make something so "simple"
wait, is this a stop motion? wha-
i don't have a word to describe it almost. fantastic job..
Incrivel haruhi suzumiya.
8 is better for side to side while 24 is better for the little dance part
24 is what makes the smallest details run smooth while 8 is very choppy it's more simple for the turns side to side like 2d animation in a way
And shifting between fps styles in the same animation can evoke different feelings of intensity and show the true creative talent of an artist
God damn I love art
Agreed
それ思った！！
What if they made only the side to side part 8fps and used the 24fps for the dance part?
The side to side in 24 fps looks robotic, but the dancd looks pretty awesome.
Those animations were so smooth that I slipped even in my Campus shoes.
Had my psych ward sox on and l still fell over
Even some goofy sound effect played in the background
@@coolpanda6471 I wonder how many people actually get this joke.
@@RonPaul42069 i doubt its rocket science lol
Oh my god that earplug trigger?? Amazing. The sudden silence gave me shivers and I didn’t expect it at all but it was so pleasantly satisfying. 10/10 new favorite trigger I will be begging for more of that in the future 😭🫶
i love the stylization of the 8fps that lets the brain fill in the gaps for longer movements, but the 24fps is great for showing the minuscule ones that can't be captured with 8
Is that why the 8 fps is holding something in her hand so it would not see, awkward that her hand is missing the finer movements?
What kind of toys are these?
@@dimabrave7167this one might be like a figma, but I might be wrong. There’s a lot of anime and non anime 6” action figures tho
I agree. The spin looks great in both 8 and 24 fps
That's why we use smears in 2d animations. Let you do tiny movement without adding frames. And keeping the low punchy framer ate.
Omg the 24 is so uncannily smooth, I can't imagine how many hours it took to animate it
Just watch the clock 😀
The watch counted 12 hours
You don't even need to imagine...
I did a stop motion project for my media class, at 12 fps it took me 8 hours, so multiply that by 2
There's a clock behind it anyway
One looks cartoony and the other looks realistic . Cool!!
Thank you for posting the most efficiently clear, direct to the point example of how different the frame rate can look. 😊
Even though the left is very choppy, there's still enough information to perceive it as motion.
The left is reminiscent of the stop motion _Lego_ shorts.
The right just looks like CGI, you almost can’t tell that it’s stop motion because of how seamless and elegant the movement is.
@@hobomike6935 robot chicken
24コマがぬるぬる動くのは当たり前として、8コマでこれだけ自然に動かせるセンスこそ評価されるべきと思います。
むしろ24コマで超細かく調整されてるのがやばい
This is why animation is important.
The motion leading to the final pose (after the loop) looks like a seizure in 8fps, but completely normal in 24fps.
Amazing comparison
I like how they are both going at the the same time instead of being compared in separate clips, very impressive
I like how lower frame rates are coming back but as a stylistic choice made for emphasis
24 fps is so mesmerizing, but 8 fps has this inexplicable feeling that i like
А прямо сейчас вы видите разницу во времени, требуемом на такое анимирование)
The watches in the background are an incredible and subtle touch …. That is a lot of time 💀
The author specifically made different clothes so that no one made a claim that he just slowed down the left side. Genius.
didn't have to worry about the clunky hand transitions @ 8 fps
It'd illustrate the point just as good. You don't slow it down either, just remove the extra frames.
OH THATS WHY!
It’s just shoes
@@ksadjdadjaifen and the cone / loud hailer
Seeing how smooth 24 fps makes me wanna respect the animator for putting so much effort in the details
Seeing the difference makes me appreciate high framerate stop motion so much more. The effort required is immense.
24 is nice to view the extra steps/movements she takes to reach the final pose. 8 is good for the first part where she doesnt move too quickly
“Wow the 24 fps looks so clean” meanwhile the watch in the background: MADE IN HEAVEN
*MAIDO IN HEVENN
Im gonna race for you... GAS GAS GAS, GONNA STEP ON DA GAAAAAS!!!
IDK WHY I LIKE THE 8FPS BETTER- 24 fps is rlly smooth, well-done and it took the creator so long which I appreciate but the 8fps looks more like stop motion to me and has a certain charm cant rlly explain
J'ai tellement d'administration pour ton travail (moi j'ai aucune patience 😅) je suis heureux de voir de voir les abonnements augmenter 👍👍👍 Ura !
Well, now I know REALLY the diffrence. 8 frames a second looks good, but 24 frames looks more smooth and natural. But the clock in the background shows that it takes a lot more effort to get 24 frames a second.
Or it shows that they used ai interpolation and the clock is wigging out as a side effect of that
@@shaldurprime7154 nope, it seems to be one continuous shot and looped the right to left step(or side to side step) three times and then the entire shot play's from right to left movement to final pose
@@goku4u 🤷♂️
@@shaldurprime7154 😸
@@shaldurprime7154 you are blind, bro
圧倒的に違うのにどこで一時停止しても同じようなポーズしてるのすごすぎるな…24fpsがどれだけ細かい動きがわかる…
すごい👍本当に踊ってるよう😱
the 24 fps makes it feel comparable to animation. the 8fps gives it that classic old movies stop motion vibe
たった数秒の動画に凄い勢いで時間経っていくのこえー…
I don't know how you simulated it so cleanly, the 24fps version is so smooth it almost looks unreal, whereas the 8fps version is incredibly charming, especially with the watch going absolutely crazy in the background, like what are you doing to me, please end my suffering! XD
I dont know why but i just like the style of the 8fps it gives nostalgia
Thank you for illustrating the huge gap in fluidity that an additional 16fps can make
As an animator, I've never seen something so fluid at 8 frames per second (fps).
I mean, you probably have but it wasn’t really being focused on. It’s pretty interesting how animators will use the human mind to basically fill in the gaps between each frame, you know?
The time and patience required for the stopmotion on the right must be insane
This perfectly showcases the advantages of each, lower framerates are snappier and feel faster, but for complex motions like that second move are harder to comprehend with low framerates
I love the step sound effects it's just satisfying to listen to
The side to side at 24 FPS was so smooth and satisfying.
because of how the brain fills in information being able to see both the 24 and 8 fps side by side makes the smoother version seems uncanny even when the 8 fps one has a clear difference overall love this comparison
Some gamer is gona louse sleep that this isn't 60fps. Love this so much
Whoahh!!!! This is so cute :OOO I REALLY REALLY REALLLLYYY!!! Love how this looks!❤❤❤❤ you did a fantastic and AMAZING❤ job with that animation!! 🎉🎉🎉
自然な重心を再現できるのってすごいん。
关于遵守上帝诫命的经文 启示录 22:14 英王詹姆斯版 14 遵行他诫命的人有福了，他们可以有权柄到生命树那里，也可以从城门进城。
神の戒めを守ることについての詩 黙示録 22:14 キング・ジェームス版 14 神の戒めを守る者たちは幸いである、それは彼らが命の木に対する権利を持ち、門を通って町に入ることができるためである。
하나님의 계명을 지키는 것에 관한 구절 요한계시록 22:14 킹 제임스 버전 14 그의 계명을 지키는 자는 복이 있나니 이는 생명나무에 나아가며 문들을 통하여 성에 들어갈 권세를 얻게 하려 함이라
There’s something so charming about the 8fps that the 24fsp can’t convey
I don't know...maybe...easing and like every other quality that makes animation look lively instead of static, robotic movement?
Holding frames let's the viewer's mind fill in the blank. It's choppier but in some ways can be more beautiful -- just look at Spider Verse. The real challenge with movement on every frame in 24fps is that if the animator messed up, it's incredibly noticeable. That's why if you look at animated movies or cinematics from game companies it looks so fluid at 24, because they're the best in the world. At the end of the day, it's the animator's skill that will make all the difference.
Yeah, it's nothing.
24 fps stop motion is WILD. like wow, props to you dude
I love it both, 24 fps is smooth. But 8 fps is old school and classic like animation from 1990s - 2000s
No matter the frames, you make things that impress me. Great work.
8fps just took me back to the early RUclips days when people would try to do a stop motion animation with these stickmen. Ah, the good ol’ days.
PivotX our beloved
Nice one haruhi.. miss the anime
No saben la bronca y tiempo en el que se demora haciendo eso ¡¡APRECIENLO!!!!!
I can't see this dance without hearing the music. They go hand in hand. Bravo with the animation, sir. You have the patience of a saint.
Haruhi Suzumiya on the right-hand side has auch smoother dance than on the left. She is such a good dancer.
Water is wet
the sun is dry
electrons are moving
Uranium are radioactif
Rock is solid
Very nice! 12 fps on 2s usually pleases my eyes the most. I havent practiced animation in quite a while though and I never was really good at it
8fps looks like an anime
24fps almost looks Disney quality
Good on you, spot on
lol the 8 fps is like the actually anime 🤣🤣🤣👏 the 24 is so smooth, I get why both would be useful for different things.
Anime is closer to 24 fps than 8...
@@corasundaefr
Bro doesn’t know that only the funny parts or just idk YoU bAkA parts are like 8fps
Anime is mostly 12 frames repeated twice each, from what I know. That is 24 frames per second but only 12 unique frames.
@@AniketTurkel yeah they usually call it 'in twos'. hand drawing 24 frames per second is costly and time consuming. Though i would say, some cuts would need to be animated 'in ones' aka 24 frames (e.g dynamic/action shots)
12 fps is a good middle ground. Perfect balance of smoothness and charm.
Exactly my thoughts. It's pretty much 24FPS, but using frame duplicates making in 12 FPS. In Flash the default framerate ws 12 fps, and we were learning cell animation in 12 FPS.
When I tried 24 fps animation- it was so much more time consuming to deal with.
yess, the sweet point
12 looks just as disgustingly bad as 8, what are you on about?
@@rigo.acosta Incorrect, it looks 50% better :)
@@rigo.acostaquestion are you one of those dumbass gamers who thinks the importance of fps in video games applies to everything
For all the animators out there, I respect you all for your hard work and dedication for this craft.
*If anyone can do it, so can you.* 🫵🥲
The 24 fps looks extremely cool, but there is something about the 8 fps that is just so charming
24fps looks unbelievably smooth but 8fps has such a nice feel to it, almost nostalgic in a way like I'm watching Wallace and Gromit as a child again. Excellent work with both 😊
how my wifi runs normally vs. how my wifi runs when i havent paid the bill:
Robot Chicken vs. Coraline.
8 fps animations has its charm, especially with old stylized animation
obviously, 24 is really a standard for modern animations
24 frames per second for stop motion sounds overly exhausting. I have a great appreciation for what you do
The 8 fps one had much more life to it in the beginning, however the 24 fps one was much clearer as to what it was doing at the end
The 8 fps looks aesthetically better cuz it feels like you rip it out straight from the anime 😯✨
8fps: a normal budget for an anime
24fps: when they animators forgot their budget
God that's smooth
8 frames makes the animation snappier, which i prefer in most stop motion animations. Also, Haruhiism all the way!!
they give my childhood nightmares
*”It’s Not Unusual” by Tom Jones starts playing*
*after seven consecutive plays of "what's new pussycat"*
I dunno about everyone else, but there's something unsettling about seeing a stop motion character animated on the ones. Lower than that is cute and charming, but 24fps passes into the uncanny valley just a bit, as if it's something that could almost reasonably come to life and kill me! XD
Weird optical illusion of the 8fps looking like it’s holding a yellow cone. The brain is fascinating.
後ろの腕時計が全てを物語っている……
Omg I didn’t notice...it took so much longer to do