You say that like it means something. Shaq annihilated everyone else, too. The difference is you can't hack a Joker. You could get Shaq down to sub 1.2 points per trip by just fouling him. You can't do it with Joker. He can also shoot, so Shaq would have to guard on the perimeter, which opens him up to switch hunting and that will put him into foul trouble. Joker is also an elite passer and Shaq never had that in his arsenal. So 1v1 Shaq would destroy everyone including Joker, but in a 5v5 from the perspective of points differential and plusminus Jokic is clearly better than anybody else has ever been. I think Shaq would get a 40/15 against Jokic, but miss half of his 25 free throws in the process. Joker would get like 25/12/14 and make 8/10 leading his team to victory.
The Lakers head coaching job is not an entry level position for someone with no experience. Taking a chance on Reddick is fine as an assistant so he can get experience and be re/evaluated at the end of the year, contingent on his coach, Coach K coming in as head coach for one year to mentor him!
The one quality I want in our new head coach is accountability. I just want our coach to talk the same way ANT talks post game after a loss. Own up to it and be a leader!
I don't give a rat's behind how someone talks after the game. Evaluating someone based on how he talks to the press is one of the more bizarre additions of the internet age. In the end, who cares? The one quality I would want in a head coach would be to increase the team's chance to win each game.
So you’re expecting a coach to act to the same accountability as a player? Fair enough, but let’s keep that standard and expect the players to keep the same level of accountability as Anthony Edwards’s as well. Literally every player, including Lebron refused to take accountability for their poor individual performances and instead blamed injuries etc on the failed season. So why are we being hypocrites and being outraged when Darvin ham refuses to take accountability, and rightfully so, yet look past lebron and the rest of the players when they refuse to take accountability?
If they surrender everything to get Donovan Mitchell, the situation will be the same as what Suns had in 23-24. The team will lose because of poor defense.
You will still have vanderbilt Probably austin or atleast gabe Mid level exception to sign defender So you basically dont even lose any defenders of current roster And mitchel is better defender than dlo was so your defence is gonna actually improve! What are you talking about We are not suns Their stars cant play defence Our stars are top 3 frontcourt defending duo in the league
I’d like to see you guys do a video where you focus on our desired trade targets, create our best trade packages for them, and then locate teams who could use that same player, and create trade packages for them, just to see how our trade packages stack up with the other teams. I say this because it’s easy to say we want player A and we are going after him. But if our trade package can’t compete with other teams for that player, then it’s good to possibly look at other potential trade targets that can help us and our package would work for them.
They'll be trying to get Tyus Jones, Lauri Markkanen and Dorian Finney Smith though. They'll talk about Mitchell for 1 minute and Murray for another 30 shows. The problem is that Trevor and Sean know absolutely nothing about lineups.
@@peteranders7106 Well it did frustrate me when they constantly talked about why AD needs to play the 5, when we clearly won a championship with him at the 4 (playing the 5 mainly in crunch time in the 4thQ). He is not a 5. He’s been telling the world that, and NOW, 4yrs after winning a ring playing the 4, now they’re considering AD playing the 4 as a possibility. That’s what frustrated me the most. AD is a 4 and needs to play alongside a 5. Period.
I wish people would stop talking about Bronny. If it were anyone else, we would not be going bonkers over a person scoring 4pts one game and then 13pts the next game. There is nothing against Bronny, but there are other hard-working players busting their butt's to make a roster.
@@kaferrat exactly. And to be perfectly honest, Lebron's kid is at least used to having a lot of eyes on him and has a 40+ inch vertical apparently. Austin Reaves was fast, but recorded a 25 inch vertical leap and 35 from a running start. That is a massive discrepancy. He has a really really small explosive strength deficit, which is very bad, because it takes a lot longer to build strength than it does to decrease a larger explosive strength deficit. And basketball is not a line drill. That first step is what matters the most on defense and that correlates the most with strength. Reaves isn't going to bball IQ his way to great defense any time soon. Guy is born to be a scorer off the bench and actually hangs the best with smaller rotation SFs. As long as they can't pull up at will and shoot over him, he does a great job with them. That strength deficit is what happens when you mainly train for sport specific skills with a focus on speed. Bronny is strong and has a great base to become an even better athlete. He has the base for that type of training to be highly impactful. Reaves needs to get a lot stronger first to increase his power in order to be the type of athlete that can defend starters. Bronny has that built in. Reaves has the asketball brains, technique and speed. Bronny is all raw athleticism. Both can perform well under pressure. I fully expect Bronny to stick and actually become a productive role player with a couple of years on a roster. If Reaves helps him out with training for speed the way D'Lo helped Reaves with his handles, Bronny could become a great player off the bench before his rookie contract is up. So yeah not going to miss Maxwell Lewis. Even Max Christie has not blown me away at all. I think in 2 years Bronny will be better than Max Christie is after 3.
@@peteranders7106 Damn...you copy/paste all that off a pamphlet or something? 🤣 So Bronny has a 40" vertical leap & managed to only score less than 5pts a game on a lower tier USC team. BFD! 😑🙄 I'm sure he'll be a great asset on the trash Lakers team...right along the rest of that trash roster.😜🤣
@@kaferrat I mean the guy almost died recently and it wasn't clear he would even ever play again. But yeah the team was way over hyped this year. You're not wrong.
Because Jackson sucks as a coach, literally watched him in person cost the warriors games. He doesn’t talk bad about Howard, he just says he’s old now (which he is) and says he wouldn’t work in the nba now (which he wouldn’t, there a reason he’s not on another team) like, have common sense dude.
I’d be fine with Reaves, Rui and 2 picks cuz I think AR should be valued as a 1st rd pick. Keeping at least 1 1st rounder OR AR would be great asset management
Lakers better make a trade knowing that AD is still an injury prone player. This is the one time AD has played a full season healthy and it has all gone to waste. So Lakers need to make a big trade for a star player coz i am not counting on AD to play another season healthy. Miracles like these only happen once and they already wasted it.
If Cavs keep Donovan Mitchell, possible trade Pels: - Darius Garland Cavs: - Brandon Ingram - Opens up possibility for DLO sign and trade to Cavs Cavs: - DLo (25ish/ year) Hawks: (if they want to clear cap space) - JHS - appropriate draft compensation Lakers: - Dejounte Murray
LBJ Era Biggest Needs: • “3&D” SG or SF • Traditional Center for $3-$7 Million Post LBJ Era Biggest Need: • 2nd ⭐️ All-Star or Super 🌟 Star to Pair w/ AD 📌 SG/SF Options • Super 🌟 Star: Jayson Tatum/Spida 🕷️Mitchell (Both Free Agents in 25/26 or 26/27) = 3-1st Round Pic(k)s • Fringe All ⭐️ Star: Dejounte Murray/Mikal Bridges/Brandon Ingram = 2-1st Round Pic(k)s • High Level Role Player: Carushow/Bruce Brown/Caris Levert = 1-1st Round Pic(k) 📌 Center: Drummond/Nick Richards/McGee
JJ Reddick/Sam Cassell is your coach, they know the game of basketball better than any of the other candidates and they are long term coach's that will not cost you initially, they are players coach's and will manage the locker roommate along with LeBron and AD's input. We must get two real bigs next to AD. Valanciunas Drumond, Dwight ect (ie 2020 chip) we need a six man (Bobby Portes, Dramond, for additional support etc.) We need a two way guard to contend with Jamall Murry and Anthony Edwards..... Demar/Caruso/Donovan/Keli Ubrea/Marcus Smart/JaMonte Murray/ Brogden etc. We have more than enough assets and picks to make this happen. Doc Rivers, Ty Lue, Chauncy Billups, etc none of which had ever coached prior to there position. There is enough assets, picks and money to make it happen.
That's actually very good. I don't think Morris is attainable. Losing D'Lo is not my favorite idea either. But that roster would be the best we had since 2020, no question about it. You are overpaying for Caruso a little bit, but that's actually understandable, because he is like the key guy missing this whole time.
Exactly. Sean pisses me off with his revisionist nonsense. Do these guys ever question anything? No they don't. They always run with the herd. Every single time.
Darius garland is a great fit. Fast get passer and scorer. Dlo should get his contract with a new coach and health lakers are fine honestly. Add size keep max. Healthy vando prince and Gabe look differently defensively. Add a Dennis type(bronny) lol but someone who can do what dinnwiddie was supposed to do.
He has a really snobby way of looking good things sometimes it seems like he hates things for the hell of it. Great coach available I don't like it. Great player available no he's not a good fit for us. Dude you act like you on the Lakers actual coaching staff
I agree, just like when he said no to Dwight or McGee. Like dude DH might have not stopped joker but he would've got in his head and made him move and work a little harder. I don't like Sean's analysis at all no matter the subject.
Looking into a Spida 🕷️ Mitchell Comps and there are no past/present 6’2-6’3/215lb Combo Guards with a Similar Build & Similar Skill Set!!! He plays like a 6’3-6’5 Guard!!! My best comparison is DWade/Ant 🐜 Man!!!
Lakers coach spot is indeed the most difficult to manage in the NBA, not in sports. Have you seen South American and European soccer teams pressure? Probably not, because the supporters when are upset about the coach and players, they throw a lot of criticism during the game and after, to say the least. Supporters go in the practice facilities to pressure coaching staff if their team aren’t playing well and the media as well goes so hard on coaches.
whoever the lakers hire as HC, just make sure to not sign him for any more than 2 years, cuz chances are lakers are going to fire that coach in 2 years.
No you need a guy who can defend beside your big 3 if you cant keep austin id rather just play gabe and get a defender with mle off the bench Or gabe of the bench you know what i mean
Call me crazy but personally I think Gabe is better than AR from a 2 way player evaluation perspective. Give Gabe consistent minutes and he can ball out. Move AR, Rui, a sweetener and that 17th for Mitchell and maybe Cavs budge.
Sam Cassell is my first choice. The best coach for this team is someone that will actually stand up to Lebron and hold him accountable with the GMs backing IE Erik Spoelstra and Pat Riley. Of course, Rob Pelinka is no Pat Riley and will instead fire the coach to appease his Father Lebron.
I love derizan and hes almost perfect fkr what wed need to beat denever in close games in the 4th.. just rough cuz bron needs to be the 4.. demar is getting okder and plays more the 3.. so now u miggt have a hard time putting vando beside them and demar will get us killed size wise at the 3 vs denver
I respect everyone's views, but sometimes we stripped people of their great work and easy give it to other. Rob Pelinka gets credit for championship, but no credit when he dismantle the winning formula. Mark Jackson doesn't get credit for the Warriors, even though the stars of that team gives him credit. Sean was the main one talking how great Ham is going to be until he wasn't. AD won a championship playing the 4 mostly, and had the courage throughout the season to shoot the 3, no matter what. But everyone says he should only play the 5. Dwight and McGee gets no credit for the championship. Please revisionist history that we do when tell the stories. I'm a fan since Magic... and the time when Detroit had the Jordan's number too.
Mitchell not gonna b on the market and la gutting the roster for a third star is bad. We saw this in the Russ szn. Why are we repeating cursed history?
Is there a way to trade for Spida or anyone star caliber without including Austin? Of all the piece besides bron AD , he is the one with the dog in him.
if dlo re-signed would love to send out Gabe, rui and dlo with picks possibly the rookie too. That'd likely help with cap as well. Keep austin, prince and the rest of the bench if possible. Personally I think it helps with pt distribution as well if that's possible
Guys, we are toast as non-contenders for 5 years 🥺. Here is how. Another rookie coach (JJ, Cassell?), 2 years of LeBron, may be wasting a pick on Bronny…then rebuild around AD will take 2-3 years. Hitting the heights of nepotism and mediocrity with a front office of Pelinka, Clutch and Rambis…with Jeanie. RIP, till Lakers are born again and grow to be contenders after 5 years.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Laker fans want a quick fix but that wont happen. It will be years before the Lakers are legitimate contenders. As long as Bron is here, we're a play-in team at best.
Then we'll win the off season securing wings like Drummond and use our picks for more kiddies. Max Christie will be an all-star and Austin will win MVP next season. Probably. Maybe. Top 3 is the floor. We are better than the 2020 team. Rob Pelinka for executive of the decade.
Undersized guard that can’t walk right no thanks we need a big center that is also mobile and a true point guard and give Max min help him with some skill moves
By the way, people Trevor and the empire Lakers Nation crew already know there is no damn way we get DM But they are pretending like it's a possibility because it gets clicks
Thats not true 3 firsts plus last years first(jhs)+rui and austin is insane value since both are pretty young Specially if donovan says that i want the lakers no team is gonna offer even half that Suns gave less than this for KD and bradly beal and they werent even asking for suns specificly
LAKERS SHOULD TRY TO BRING IN DWIGHT HOWARD. TO FACE JOKIC...HE HAD JOKIC IN FOUL TROUBLE A LOT OF GAME LAKERS WAS ON TOP OF THE GAMES WITH DWIGHT HOWARD...PLUS THE HUMER HE HAD...
See a lot of bullshit in these comments. LAKERS DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH ASSETS TO GET DONOVAN MITCHELL. THERES 2-3 other teams that has more and better assets to trade for him. Why would Cavs short arm themselves to move him to LA when they can get a hefty return from OKC, Nets, Jazz, Spurs? Let’s think realistically only way this is remotely possible is if Mitchell says he’s only willing to go to LA Lakers.
Thank you..Knicks have a boat load of picks and players...Cars would toy with the Lakers front office because they would want to recoup what was lost in the trade with the Jazz..
I don’t see Mitch doing an extension with the Nets, Jazz, Spurs or even Rockets due to the fact that none of them are contending and it would be stupid to give up valuable assets without assurance that Mitchell would resign with them. Only team I see desperate enough to still trade for him is the lakers but lakers don’t need another star. They need better complementary pieces/size.
Yes we do have enough assets to get D Mitch. But there are other teams that have more assets than us. The question is if D Mitch is willing to sign there long term
Man I like the spider trade for long term my problem is now because let's face it Here lebron played great but he's not the same player he's old now and that's fine but we need much better help then what we had in the 2019-2020 season because it's simple lebron can't defend and can't be excellent on offense for a 40min a game 7game series anymore we seen this already and sure mitch will fix that but problems will arise we won't have a bench unfortunately and you still need size which we won't get either
The 2020 was the much better help. Danny Green was still sound. Avery Bradley was a top 50 on ball defender. Alex Caruso was already a top 3 defender and KCP was just breaking into the top 30. Kuma was finally net neutral as a PF on defense. Morris was a solid enforcer. Rondo could control the tempo. Daniels and Cook were automatic for garbage time. McGee and Howard were both younger, faster and more explosive than almost all of the new guys that are 7 feet tall. Jared Dudley was the only questionable choice on the bench and he actually played well when called upon. He never had that kind of help again. D'Lo is the best PG we have had together with LeBron, but the rest of the team is just not that good. Vanderbilt and Rui were expensive insurance policies. Gabe was non existent. Reaves folds against starters and can either play top 100 defense or make shots. So what are you talking about? We have never even come close to that 2020 team again. Trevor and Sean are just clueless and ignored OGA and Caruso while talking about guys like Dorian Finney Smith or Tyus Jones, who is one of the worst defenders in the NBA by far worse than D'Lo. Or Murray was funny, too. Could have had a worse shooter, who played defense for one year at the cost of only our starting guards. Let's talk about that robbery for 400 shows. If you don't read the newspaper you have no information. If you do read the newspaper you have been misinformed. The same thing applies here. If you don't watch this show you probably haven't gotten all the information. If you do, you have been misled by a history teacher and an egotistical wannabe.
You’re just LeBron hater. You maybe not even pay for the lakes before. You don’t deserve to be Lakers fans. Lakers and LeBron are on the same page. Lakers will do everything for LeBron not only he earn so much money for Lakers, but also he’s a legend we need support him.
That's right that splintered effect is bad for the team...even a great like LBJ is still a team member .....he needs to be a team player instead of acting like a member 🍆😅.
How would that help anyone? The 4 parties are losing in this trade! Lakers will get worse while they want 3 stars to win(seriously you think mitchel and AD are contenders???) Lebron would want to play WITH mitchel Mitchel would want the lakers to WIN how can he do that?
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In 2020 we just played ball every night no drama , the organization top to button needs to get back that 💜💛
It ain't been no drama the spin was media drama they created narratives that doesn't exist the only drama was Ham terrible coaching
Orlando Shaq would absolutely annihilate the Joker!
Laker Shaq was 10 times worse. Joker would cry
You say that like it means something. Shaq annihilated everyone else, too. The difference is you can't hack a Joker. You could get Shaq down to sub 1.2 points per trip by just fouling him. You can't do it with Joker. He can also shoot, so Shaq would have to guard on the perimeter, which opens him up to switch hunting and that will put him into foul trouble. Joker is also an elite passer and Shaq never had that in his arsenal.
So 1v1 Shaq would destroy everyone including Joker, but in a 5v5 from the perspective of points differential and plusminus Jokic is clearly better than anybody else has ever been. I think Shaq would get a 40/15 against Jokic, but miss half of his 25 free throws in the process. Joker would get like 25/12/14 and make 8/10 leading his team to victory.
@@Sal-lq2qh Too bad for trash Lakers this is only wishful thinking. 😑Shaq is long retired. Quit with the lame what ifs.🙄🤣
Sam Cassell's 1st day of training:
"Ok guys, here's how you do the Big Balls Dance... 😅
🏀🏀
Mark Jackson is the Tim Tebow of the NBA coaching world. You'll get questions from fans about him forever.
Dmitch, Max, Vando, Lebron, AD lineup 🔥🔥
A more balanced line up max Vando and AD play defense. Bron can sometimes. I like it.
Not happening.
I doubt he will become available and I guarantee you if he does he will not become a Laker
I don't like Bron at PF come playoffs he don't rebound aswell
That line up ain’t winning shit lmao
If ya trade for don you’d keep Dlo too, if for nothing else than another trade option down the track
The Lakers head coaching job is not an entry level position for someone with no experience. Taking a chance on Reddick is fine as an assistant so he can get experience and be re/evaluated at the end of the year, contingent on his coach, Coach K coming in as head coach for one year to mentor him!
I really like the idea of hiring JJ as an assistant but I agree with you. If you’re a coach you don’t want this to be your first dance.
@@GrahamCStrouse Trash Lakers looking to find the cheapest coach for the job...not the best coach for the job. 😑🤣
The downside on hiring JJ as an assistant is another team can scoop him up for a HC position if they like him, then you got another J. Kidd situation
The one quality I want in our new head coach is accountability. I just want our coach to talk the same way ANT talks post game after a loss. Own up to it and be a leader!
There’s no accountability for Rob Pelinka trading away all the 3&D guys over the last 3 years
I don't give a rat's behind how someone talks after the game. Evaluating someone based on how he talks to the press is one of the more bizarre additions of the internet age.
In the end, who cares? The one quality I would want in a head coach would be to increase the team's chance to win each game.
jj LEklutch rhetoric wont do that tho.😅😅😅
@@JonSmith-hk1bqman fr 😂.. i don’t even be watching the postgame interviews 😂.. unless something went viral
So you’re expecting a coach to act to the same accountability as a player? Fair enough, but let’s keep that standard and expect the players to keep the same level of accountability as Anthony Edwards’s as well.
Literally every player, including Lebron refused to take accountability for their poor individual performances and instead blamed injuries etc on the failed season.
So why are we being hypocrites and being outraged when Darvin ham refuses to take accountability, and rightfully so, yet look past lebron and the rest of the players when they refuse to take accountability?
@Trevor and @Sean great job on the Podcast guys.
Cassel is an interesting choice.
If they surrender everything to get Donovan Mitchell, the situation will be the same as what Suns had in 23-24. The team will lose because of poor defense.
You will still have vanderbilt
Probably austin or atleast gabe
Mid level exception to sign defender
So you basically dont even lose any defenders of current roster
And mitchel is better defender than dlo was so your defence is gonna actually improve! What are you talking about
We are not suns
Their stars cant play defence
Our stars are top 3 frontcourt defending duo in the league
@@afshinghazanfari3202defense
Exactly, carbon copy of the Suns. Even the Westbrook year and a half. Not quite as bad as Westbrook, but close.
@@chrs1212You don’t know basketball
False. Suns big 3 is redundant. They’re all the same type of player. That’s THEIR problem.
There’s no way that Rudy is a better defensive player than AD ! Actually AD outplayed the Joker!
Here it goes..the Klutch power play. “ Give us Spida Mitchell or Garland wants out. “ 😅
Lmao yup
Lakers NEED shooting, NOT another all star. If they sign him, they'll resemble Phoenix from this season.
They need perimeter defense & a big more.
Mark Jackson is a great basketball mind! The Lakers are cheap and they won’t pay the man! Mark would be a great fit hands down!
I’d like to see you guys do a video where you focus on our desired trade targets, create our best trade packages for them, and then locate teams who could use that same player, and create trade packages for them, just to see how our trade packages stack up with the other teams. I say this because it’s easy to say we want player A and we are going after him. But if our trade package can’t compete with other teams for that player, then it’s good to possibly look at other potential trade targets that can help us and our package would work for them.
They'll be trying to get Tyus Jones, Lauri Markkanen and Dorian Finney Smith though. They'll talk about Mitchell for 1 minute and Murray for another 30 shows. The problem is that Trevor and Sean know absolutely nothing about lineups.
@@peteranders7106 Well it did frustrate me when they constantly talked about why AD needs to play the 5, when we clearly won a championship with him at the 4 (playing the 5 mainly in crunch time in the 4thQ). He is not a 5. He’s been telling the world that, and NOW, 4yrs after winning a ring playing the 4, now they’re considering AD playing the 4 as a possibility. That’s what frustrated me the most. AD is a 4 and needs to play alongside a 5. Period.
I wish people would stop talking about Bronny. If it were anyone else, we would not be going bonkers over a person scoring 4pts one game and then 13pts the next game. There is nothing against Bronny, but there are other hard-working players busting their butt's to make a roster.
We have had 4-5 useless projects around any given year since we lost our marbles in 2021. Would you really miss Maxwell Lewis?
@@peteranders7106 You're right...what's adding yet another useless player to trash Lakers roster? 😑🤣
@@kaferrat exactly. And to be perfectly honest, Lebron's kid is at least used to having a lot of eyes on him and has a 40+ inch vertical apparently.
Austin Reaves was fast, but recorded a 25 inch vertical leap and 35 from a running start. That is a massive discrepancy. He has a really really small explosive strength deficit, which is very bad, because it takes a lot longer to build strength than it does to decrease a larger explosive strength deficit. And basketball is not a line drill. That first step is what matters the most on defense and that correlates the most with strength. Reaves isn't going to bball IQ his way to great defense any time soon. Guy is born to be a scorer off the bench and actually hangs the best with smaller rotation SFs. As long as they can't pull up at will and shoot over him, he does a great job with them.
That strength deficit is what happens when you mainly train for sport specific skills with a focus on speed. Bronny is strong and has a great base to become an even better athlete. He has the base for that type of training to be highly impactful. Reaves needs to get a lot stronger first to increase his power in order to be the type of athlete that can defend starters. Bronny has that built in. Reaves has the asketball brains, technique and speed. Bronny is all raw athleticism. Both can perform well under pressure. I fully expect Bronny to stick and actually become a productive role player with a couple of years on a roster. If Reaves helps him out with training for speed the way D'Lo helped Reaves with his handles, Bronny could become a great player off the bench before his rookie contract is up.
So yeah not going to miss Maxwell Lewis. Even Max Christie has not blown me away at all. I think in 2 years Bronny will be better than Max Christie is after 3.
@@peteranders7106 Damn...you copy/paste all that off a pamphlet or something? 🤣
So Bronny has a 40" vertical leap & managed to only score less than 5pts a game on a lower tier USC team. BFD! 😑🙄
I'm sure he'll be a great asset on the trash Lakers team...right along the rest of that trash roster.😜🤣
@@kaferrat I mean the guy almost died recently and it wasn't clear he would even ever play again. But yeah the team was way over hyped this year. You're not wrong.
55:20 😂😂 Bron: "I have a particular set of skills..."
The way Sean disrespects Dwight Howard and Mark Jackson REALLY gets under my skin bro the audacity
Howard is washed. And Jackson is a dick. No one likes him.
Sean is a hack, donno why he’s on Lakersnation
@@Brucey69because he knows more about basketball than you
Because Jackson sucks as a coach, literally watched him in person cost the warriors games. He doesn’t talk bad about Howard, he just says he’s old now (which he is) and says he wouldn’t work in the nba now (which he wouldn’t, there a reason he’s not on another team) like, have common sense dude.
@@Brucey69 Well Trevor is a history teacher...
I’d be fine with Reaves, Rui and 2 picks cuz I think AR should be valued as a 1st rd pick. Keeping at least 1 1st rounder OR AR would be great asset management
We might have to give up Vando to get them to agree to only 2 first rd picks
@@Nostalgia9478depends who we are going for if its donavan id throw in vando anybody else thats not a certified superstar hell no
I think Mark Jackson is a ready now championship coach a masterful mind why the hell does no one talk about him
Dude was a literally joke on the warrior bench. You hated Ham’s timeouts and adjustments? Jackson was actually worse.
They should keep the core this was a almost 50 win team with players injured half the time with good coaching and another center we are a problem
Yea i got two more jamal murray game winners over AR in me 😂
Lakers better make a trade knowing that AD is still an injury prone player. This is the one time AD has played a full season healthy and it has all gone to waste. So Lakers need to make a big trade for a star player coz i am not counting on AD to play another season healthy. Miracles like these only happen once and they already wasted it.
@@wilsonodhiambo8578 how many star players are available it’s about role players they have what they need
Darious Garland is essentially DLO
He is faster but smaller
I agree thats a lateral move
But for 40 mil a year
So true. 😭😭😭
If Cavs keep Donovan Mitchell, possible trade
Pels:
- Darius Garland
Cavs:
- Brandon Ingram
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Opens up possibility for DLO sign and trade to Cavs
Cavs:
- DLo (25ish/ year)
Hawks: (if they want to clear cap space)
- JHS
- appropriate draft compensation
Lakers:
- Dejounte Murray
The lakets will be a lottery team after lebron leaves which isnt all that bad they need to get back into the draft its been years since a rebuild
Lake don't and never went thru the draft. They always made trades for the players
Donovans only negative is that hes a bit injury prone, but id definitely go for it
Against Jokic -- prime Arvydas Sabonis
For Jokic probably Mt. Mutombo, Olajuwon, Duncan, Robinson, Shaq, Wallace and Rodman 😁
Crunch time offense comes from continuity, we have too much turnover for that 💜💛
LBJ Era Biggest Needs:
• “3&D” SG or SF
• Traditional Center for $3-$7 Million
Post LBJ Era Biggest Need:
• 2nd ⭐️ All-Star or Super 🌟 Star to Pair w/ AD
📌 SG/SF Options
• Super 🌟 Star: Jayson Tatum/Spida 🕷️Mitchell (Both Free Agents in 25/26 or 26/27) = 3-1st Round Pic(k)s
• Fringe All ⭐️ Star: Dejounte Murray/Mikal Bridges/Brandon Ingram = 2-1st Round Pic(k)s
• High Level Role Player: Carushow/Bruce Brown/Caris Levert = 1-1st Round Pic(k)
📌 Center: Drummond/Nick Richards/McGee
Sam for the coach Murray is the trade he is a 2 way player good size all star in 2022 great contract
23ppg 6ast 5RB 37% 3pt
JJ Reddick/Sam Cassell is your coach, they know the game of basketball better than any of the other candidates and they are long term coach's that will not cost you initially, they are players coach's and will manage the locker roommate along with LeBron and AD's input. We must get two real bigs next to AD. Valanciunas Drumond, Dwight ect (ie 2020 chip) we need a six man (Bobby Portes, Dramond, for additional support etc.) We need a two way guard to contend with Jamall Murry and Anthony Edwards..... Demar/Caruso/Donovan/Keli Ubrea/Marcus Smart/JaMonte Murray/ Brogden etc. We have more than enough assets and picks to make this happen. Doc Rivers, Ty Lue, Chauncy Billups, etc none of which had ever coached prior to there position. There is enough assets, picks and money to make it happen.
Mitchell, Vando, Bron, AD, and Richaun Holmes as the starting five
We need to draft Zach Edey. He’s killing the combine. Jokic was the 41st pick. Teams passed on him. He would be perfect to start next to AD.
Donovan Mitchell Build
Trade Reaves, Rui, JHS, 2 1sts for D Mitchell
Trade Dlo, Hayes, 3 2nds for Suggs & Carter Jr
Gabe, 1st, 2 2nds for Caruso
Sign: Dinwiddie, Center(Drummond/Tillman/Wiseman), Stanley Johnson, Marcus Morris
PG: Caruso/Suggs/Dinwiddie
SG: Mitchell/Christie
SF: Vando/Stanley/Reddish
PF: Bron/Wood/Morris
C: AD/Carter/Wiseman
Start: Caruso, Mitchell, Vando, Bron, AD
That's actually very good. I don't think Morris is attainable. Losing D'Lo is not my favorite idea either. But that roster would be the best we had since 2020, no question about it. You are overpaying for Caruso a little bit, but that's actually understandable, because he is like the key guy missing this whole time.
Olajuwon on joker is what you need. Best defender and superior scorer
Actually he did build the warriors. When Steve took over is when Steph stopped being injured. There has to be an agenda again mark.
Exactly. Sean pisses me off with his revisionist nonsense. Do these guys ever question anything? No they don't. They always run with the herd. Every single time.
Darius garland is a great fit. Fast get passer and scorer. Dlo should get his contract with a new coach and health lakers are fine honestly. Add size keep max. Healthy vando prince and Gabe look differently defensively. Add a Dennis type(bronny) lol but someone who can do what dinnwiddie was supposed to do.
Listen… if we took this years playoff team… added Vando and a rebounding big we would still be in the playoffs today. Don’t need to blow it up.
Wish you could have a different co host. Anytime I hear Sean speak I die a little inside.
Lol hence my patience of watching the post post GS beyond the 4 min mark. 😅
He has a really snobby way of looking good things sometimes it seems like he hates things for the hell of it. Great coach available I don't like it. Great player available no he's not a good fit for us. Dude you act like you on the Lakers actual coaching staff
Give Sean a break. He's still in high school.
I agree, just like when he said no to Dwight or McGee. Like dude DH might have not stopped joker but he would've got in his head and made him move and work a little harder. I don't like Sean's analysis at all no matter the subject.
His Trey Young to the Lakers take is so bad.
Looking into a Spida 🕷️ Mitchell Comps and there are no past/present 6’2-6’3/215lb Combo Guards with a Similar Build & Similar Skill Set!!! He plays like a 6’3-6’5 Guard!!!
My best comparison is DWade/Ant 🐜 Man!!!
Give me garland. Won’t cost as much and he’s a great fit imo
Getting Donovan and Bikerstaff would be hilarious.
The intro is 🔥 by the way.
Too long
Joker is great. No doubt! They're no longer is any Superstar bigs to defend him?
Lakers coach spot is indeed the most difficult to manage in the NBA, not in sports. Have you seen South American and European soccer teams pressure? Probably not, because the supporters when are upset about the coach and players, they throw a lot of criticism during the game and after, to say the least. Supporters go in the practice facilities to pressure coaching staff if their team aren’t playing well and the media as well goes so hard on coaches.
To say u wouldn't want Demar on a team that can barely score on offense when it counts is ridiculous smh 💯
Can you talk about our changes for Demor DeRozan
whoever the lakers hire as HC, just make sure to not sign him for any more than 2 years, cuz chances are lakers are going to fire that coach in 2 years.
Why not trade for D Mich and keep Dlo since we’re going to lose AR… we’re not getting better with a MLE
Thank you.
No you need a guy who can defend beside your big 3 if you cant keep austin id rather just play gabe and get a defender with mle off the bench
Or gabe of the bench you know what i mean
@@afshinghazanfari3202you can trade dlo after tho
Call me crazy but personally I think Gabe is better than AR from a 2 way player evaluation perspective. Give Gabe consistent minutes and he can ball out. Move AR, Rui, a sweetener and that 17th for Mitchell and maybe Cavs budge.
@icecoldac3 I like this move
i miss the “its game day” 😩😔
Phil Tri Angle Offence lol
Sam Cassell is my first choice. The best coach for this team is someone that will actually stand up to Lebron and hold him accountable with the GMs backing IE Erik Spoelstra and Pat Riley. Of course, Rob Pelinka is no Pat Riley and will instead fire the coach to appease his Father Lebron.
I love derizan and hes almost perfect fkr what wed need to beat denever in close games in the 4th.. just rough cuz bron needs to be the 4.. demar is getting okder and plays more the 3.. so now u miggt have a hard time putting vando beside them and demar will get us killed size wise at the 3 vs denver
Starters Spida Max Vando Lebron AD . Bench Spencer Prince Cam Wood Val 💜💛
I dont think id trade a 1st rd pick for Lue
Maybe 2 second rounders
Seemed like Lebron didn't want to play with certain (available) stars when we ended up with Russ.
I respect everyone's views, but sometimes we stripped people of their great work and easy give it to other. Rob Pelinka gets credit for championship, but no credit when he dismantle the winning formula.
Mark Jackson doesn't get credit for the Warriors, even though the stars of that team gives him credit.
Sean was the main one talking how great Ham is going to be until he wasn't.
AD won a championship playing the 4 mostly, and had the courage throughout the season to shoot the 3, no matter what. But everyone says he should only play the 5. Dwight and McGee gets no credit for the championship. Please revisionist history that we do when tell the stories. I'm a fan since Magic... and the time when Detroit had the Jordan's number too.
Revisionist...gentlemen, spelling, please🙄
@@mapndo2337 open to correction, too bad most are not.
@@mapndo2337 Thank you. Anything else you wish to share? Disagree?
Mitchell not gonna b on the market and la gutting the roster for a third star is bad. We saw this in the Russ szn. Why are we repeating cursed history?
DDR has been talking about joining the Lakers for a decade.
Is there a way to trade for Spida or anyone star caliber without including Austin? Of all the piece besides bron AD , he is the one with the dog in him.
That 6th man backup SG dog, if his efficiency comes back.
I’d take prime Pau Gasol to guard Jokic
Prime Gasol was too soft. Jocic would destroy Gasol. Jocic is making Gobert look like an amateur and you think Gasol would stand a chance...gtfoh
The thing with Jokic is he does so many things so well. You slow him down at one thing...he makes up for it with all the other things.
Rather have DeRozan, Drummond and Dejounte Mark Jackson as coach
if dlo re-signed would love to send out Gabe, rui and dlo with picks possibly the rookie too. That'd likely help with cap as well. Keep austin, prince and the rest of the bench if possible. Personally I think it helps with pt distribution as well if that's possible
Luka77 😮: GODZILLA ROAAAAR !!!
Guys, we are toast as non-contenders for 5 years 🥺. Here is how. Another rookie coach (JJ, Cassell?), 2 years of LeBron, may be wasting a pick on Bronny…then rebuild around AD will take 2-3 years. Hitting the heights of nepotism and mediocrity with a front office of Pelinka, Clutch and Rambis…with Jeanie.
RIP, till Lakers are born again and grow to be contenders after 5 years.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Laker fans want a quick fix but that wont happen. It will be years before the Lakers are legitimate contenders. As long as Bron is here, we're a play-in team at best.
Without bron, y'all missed playoffs ey
Man if coach k was available I’d be about that Sam cassell I’m about that too j my third choice
Can Zack Edey be in play at 17 in the draft
Lakers have to fix LeBron A.D. problem first they both fighting over power forward spot LeBron to old to play S.F. A.D. refuses to be the center
Just hire JJ. I don't really want another rookie by at least he's smart.
The Lakers will waste their entire summer trying to trade for one player and not get him while missing out on all other players.
Then we'll win the off season securing wings like Drummond and use our picks for more kiddies. Max Christie will be an all-star and Austin will win MVP next season. Probably. Maybe. Top 3 is the floor. We are better than the 2020 team. Rob Pelinka for executive of the decade.
Mark Jackson
Donovan to the Lakers!!! Get the Cavs coach first
Per the article bringing the coach and then trying to get Donovan wouldn’t make too much sense
Hakeem the Dream
Undersized guard that can’t walk right no thanks we need a big center that is also mobile and a true point guard and give Max min help him with some skill moves
Demar is more consistent then any player on the lakers expect lebron .yall crazy if wouldn't want him
So you honestly think the Cavs owner will help Lebron by sending him a star player?
It’s going to be Reddic and we all know it
Well we only lived in the LA dark ages, maybe it is time for someone that was born in it....okay I'll see myself out.
Why not get Darius garland give up less and get essentially what you got in dlo
By the way, people Trevor and the empire Lakers Nation crew already know there is no damn way we get DM
But they are pretending like it's a possibility because it gets clicks
Don’t get your hopes up we are in the bottom third of the league in trade assets
Thats not true
3 firsts plus last years first(jhs)+rui and austin is insane value since both are pretty young
Specially if donovan says that i want the lakers no team is gonna offer even half that
Suns gave less than this for KD and bradly beal and they werent even asking for suns specificly
The irrational hate towards Mark Jackson is ridiculous and is more a commentary on society’s heart than it is a reflection on the man himself.
Most owners share the same religion. 😊
My Birthday in Mavs Box score
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 104
24. 30. 25 25
= Won 1 For 4 24 Kobe
3/ 2+5=7 2+5=7
1 Won 4 for #24 Kobe 3/77 My Birthday ✝️ ❤💯✨️🏆👑🐐👍
Cavs are not trading Mitchell for Reaves lol😂.
Lebron is driving this franchise crazy.....and fans dont see it but they will when it's all over
Lakers Nation needs new faces.
Bring back Winters🤦🏽♂️ 🙄
LAKERS SHOULD TRY TO BRING IN DWIGHT HOWARD. TO FACE JOKIC...HE HAD JOKIC IN FOUL TROUBLE A LOT OF GAME LAKERS WAS ON TOP OF THE GAMES WITH DWIGHT HOWARD...PLUS THE HUMER HE HAD...
Give austin
Give rui
Give 3 first
Give any second to trade
Give jhs
Than we will have
Gabe
Donovan
Jarred
Lebron
Davis
Mitchell si fucking injured
h no to young
Donovan mitchel 6’3” doesnt solve the Jokic problem 🤦🏻
Yea it solves the losing in the clutch problem, the long scoring drought problems and he won’t finish with zero points 😂.
See a lot of bullshit in these comments. LAKERS DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH ASSETS TO GET DONOVAN MITCHELL. THERES 2-3 other teams that has more and better assets to trade for him. Why would Cavs short arm themselves to move him to LA when they can get a hefty return from OKC, Nets, Jazz, Spurs?
Let’s think realistically only way this is remotely possible is if Mitchell says he’s only willing to go to LA Lakers.
Thank you..Knicks have a boat load of picks and players...Cars would toy with the Lakers front office because they would want to recoup what was lost in the trade with the Jazz..
Exactly!
I don’t see Mitch doing an extension with the Nets, Jazz, Spurs or even Rockets due to the fact that none of them are contending and it would be stupid to give up valuable assets without assurance that Mitchell would resign with them. Only team I see desperate enough to still trade for him is the lakers but lakers don’t need another star. They need better complementary pieces/size.
Yes we do have enough assets to get D Mitch. But there are other teams that have more assets than us. The question is if D Mitch is willing to sign there long term
Rodman or Mourning
Take a break lakers nation. This is ridiculous. No need for all these pods with nothing actually happening.
Cowboys most difficult head coaching spot...not even close because the NFL supersedes the NBA
In terms of market.
Yeah there are so many NFL fans in China, Asia and Europe that they top all the charts for franchise worth even besting soccer.
Also you're wrong. 😂
Man I like the spider trade for long term my problem is now because let's face it Here lebron played great but he's not the same player he's old now and that's fine but we need much better help then what we had in the 2019-2020 season because it's simple lebron can't defend and can't be excellent on offense for a 40min a game 7game series anymore we seen this already and sure mitch will fix that but problems will arise we won't have a bench unfortunately and you still need size which we won't get either
The 2020 was the much better help. Danny Green was still sound. Avery Bradley was a top 50 on ball defender. Alex Caruso was already a top 3 defender and KCP was just breaking into the top 30. Kuma was finally net neutral as a PF on defense. Morris was a solid enforcer. Rondo could control the tempo. Daniels and Cook were automatic for garbage time. McGee and Howard were both younger, faster and more explosive than almost all of the new guys that are 7 feet tall. Jared Dudley was the only questionable choice on the bench and he actually played well when called upon.
He never had that kind of help again. D'Lo is the best PG we have had together with LeBron, but the rest of the team is just not that good. Vanderbilt and Rui were expensive insurance policies. Gabe was non existent. Reaves folds against starters and can either play top 100 defense or make shots.
So what are you talking about? We have never even come close to that 2020 team again. Trevor and Sean are just clueless and ignored OGA and Caruso while talking about guys like Dorian Finney Smith or Tyus Jones, who is one of the worst defenders in the NBA by far worse than D'Lo. Or Murray was funny, too. Could have had a worse shooter, who played defense for one year at the cost of only our starting guards. Let's talk about that robbery for 400 shows.
If you don't read the newspaper you have no information. If you do read the newspaper you have been misinformed. The same thing applies here. If you don't watch this show you probably haven't gotten all the information. If you do, you have been misled by a history teacher and an egotistical wannabe.
Prime Hakeem Olajuwon would give it to jokic
Send Tarik Black against Jokic
We don't need to win for LeBron. Win for the Lakers. Enough already
For both bro
How are they seperate
He meant to win while he is still good
Just trying to find ways to hate a person huh?
You’re just LeBron hater. You maybe not even pay for the lakes before. You don’t deserve to be Lakers fans. Lakers and LeBron are on the same page. Lakers will do everything for LeBron not only he earn so much money for Lakers, but also he’s a legend we need support him.
One and the same dumbshit
That's right that splintered effect is bad for the team...even a great like LBJ is still a team member .....he needs to be a team player instead of acting like a member 🍆😅.
James - Mitchell swap!? LeBron goes home. Cavs draft Bronny.
How would that help anyone? The 4 parties are losing in this trade!
Lakers will get worse while they want 3 stars to win(seriously you think mitchel and AD are contenders???)
Lebron would want to play WITH mitchel
Mitchel would want the lakers to WIN how can he do that?
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Please John man stop talking about young. You're going to sneak it into existence and we don't want that
Trade LeBron for Garland, Allen and LeVert. I'm not sure about Mitchell - he's great, but injury prone.
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