Sadly it woulndt make more than at redline, as the valve lifters arent stiff enough at such high revs. The valves would float, and that, along with the over revs, would grenade the engine.
Very badly? He let it ran at 10k for ages, how the hell didn't he realise? I've moneyshifted (Just too early, not wrong gear), it got to about 7.5k (Petrol, and was going to rev to 9k or so, redline 7k) before I realised and put the clutch straight back in. Hence no damage. He dumped the clutch and took seconds to realise the mistake, I'd have thought you'd recognise a 6cyl diesel making a noise like a Honda quite quickly...
@@kaptinkeiff bro he didn't moneyshift, it was an engine runaway the best you can do is cut air or put it i a highergear and brakes so it shuts down, if not it will run on oil until the engine explodes
Mvrtian the engine ran away all right ran itself right out of fucking commission and right when he thought everything was going great 😂 the engine just decided it was time to leave it’s had a hard life 😂
I would just connect an almost dying diesel car/truck to a obd2 port,connecc(typo on purpose) the obd2 with a phone app that reads rpm,yeet some engine oil into the intake and let her rip,see what rpm can the engine do
@@milendur7398 first of all learn what is vtec and what it do. 2019 year ppl think that vtec and vanos are same, lol. Bnw have thing like vtec and it calling valvetronic.
I was just about the write how slow he was to bang it in to gear and stall it but then I read loads of people saying quick reaction well done, so I don't think I will write that now
It wouldn't go in. I wonder how quick you could realise what was going on, check your mirrors, pull off the racing line, get it into gear and try stall it without being in the middle of the track.
Strip Down Video here - ruclips.net/video/hxyq4sP7cv8/видео.html This was a Runaway condition caused by overheating of the back 2 cylinders due to an M57 cooling system design issue which resulted in melted pistons and the engine running on its own oil.
Yes, but no. The pistons melting are a consequence of running away. Where did it get the oil from? What else failed? Melting 5 and 6 isn’t going to feed oil into 1,2,3 and 4.
The engine ran away. Oil got into the combustion chamber, and since it's a diesel, it does not need a spark to ignite. So the engine will eat itself. Probably piston ring failure or a hole in the piston itself. He stalled it by releasing the clutch on highest gear. It's the only way to stop a runaway engine without putting yourself at risk.
@@D3humaniz3d Oh god, stop explaining how a runaway happens. The op said about using the flap valve as a means of closing the airflow. Anyway i think it won't close unless at idle. It is there to prevent stutter on shut off.
@@soldrier You're right, I must have written this at like 2am in the morning or something. And to answer OP' question, yes the M57 family has flaps to close off intake air. He must have either got rid of them (some people apparently do that) or the hinges on those flaps were caked in carbon and were permanently open due to the EGR.
D3 humaniz3d i don’t think that’s the case, in order for that flap to close it would require for the car to be stopped but he was on the move and instead chose to stall out the car on purpose which was the right move; waiting for the car to come to a full stop and turn the car off would’ve taken much longer.
blyahhh diesel is working with compression and like it or not it doesnt go further thab maximum 5.5 6k rpm and second wtf you need tractor for to collect corn in the field lol
@@DD-ow4or i do not understand what does the compression have in common with revs. ""Engine" does not "see" the compression, but only the pressure. High boosted gas engine on ethanol have same or higher pressure in cylinder as TD, but still can rev to 8k rpm or much more... TD cant do it, why?
@@DD-ow4or there are scale models rc engines (like 2.5 ccm or 5 ccm displacement), running on rc fuel, not diesel, but with compression ignition. They often have max power at 25k rpm or more...
@@riku1313 Yep, when this happens...if one's not familiar with the problem and the ways to solve it, he'll have a hard time avoiding a worse tragedy than just a damaged engine.
@@riku1313 Yep. I thought about something the like. :) But diesels are so cool despite this risk, as much as I may fear it running away, that wouldn't stop me from having one ☺
No the engine let some oil in and ran away. It would take a lot to make the revs hang like that otherwise. It wouldn't go into 4th as the revs increased quickly rather than dropping
@@DarksideDevelopments great to know about it, but om 606 uses a forchamber injection, some old bmw engines also have it, shouldnt be a big problem to insert it into a newer engine, actually would be a cool video to see, high reving diesel project, and what about converting a petrol engine into diesel(1jz or rb 20 as bases)?
Well at least I know where the limits are for the motors ability to rev safety even though it wasn’t safe at all it literally shredded everything with that motor😂
@@DarksideDevelopments true…brain fart of me acc, i was gonna say what about a mechanical governor but its oil its sucking in not diesel!!!!!! I don’t suppose you could give me some advice on tuning a pre LCI M57 325d manual. Torque limits for gearbox/clutch, and max power before needing too uprate to 330d injectors???
@@DarksideDevelopments what you a talking about is called “runaway”. There are many videos here, but all of them do not exceed 5-6k revs. diesel engines cannot exceed these revs on its own power due combustion speed limitation. On this video driver missed a gear.
@@DarksideDevelopmentsI did. You are trying to fool ppl. On 0:31 we see how driver reached top revs, ceased accelerating, up shifts, missed a gear, break engine by revving it over 10k, car slowed down (you can see it on accelerometer - right lower part of screen), than tried to put correct gear but it’s already late. So you are the one, who write here some stupid things.
@@Salad_Dodger77 You can run a catch can that will help - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/mann-hummel-provent-200-oil-catch-can-breather-system.html
why no atmospheric oil catch can?! That way will never occur that problem. Even on street+race car could run with it. Ps: Why so hi spec build, but so low power figures?! We obtained there that kind of power from 1.9 vp37 engine, diesel only. From m57 few friends get some 500bho diesel only (also driven daily- but lower map), or 600 with nos. I do not speak about that m57 build by Dragos/complete chip (which you know for shure), but other local projects.
I clicked on this thinking "I had no idea a diesel could do 10k!" Turns out the engine had no idea either 😂
That Saved my.. But not the engine 😅
😂😂😂
That sounded more like 8k but still probably not healthy for a diesel engine lol omg
Lmaooo
😭🤣🤣🤣
Piston: “Alright, Ima *H E A D*
Engine:
“I want to be a Petrol engine when I grow up”
@@roadreg1820bro speaking facts
I would love to see a teardown of the engine after this!
Matt Bracher DO IT!
Matt Bracher me too!
me too man !
@@dumitrescugeorgedaniel4877 Strip Down Video here - ruclips.net/video/hxyq4sP7cv8/видео.html
@@Djapecar9 Strip Down Video here - ruclips.net/video/hxyq4sP7cv8/видео.html
Impressed how quickly he put it into 5th for the stall!
Why is everyone saying money shift? You can literally see it runaway and then he clearly stalls it (in bloody quick time too). Or am I the thick one?
You're right, video description proves so as well
144lewis he stuck it in 2nd and she went bang.
@@mulletor123 it ran away - nothing to do with the gear change
Thicc
I mean, you spelt thick wrong..... That obviously says a lot.
I was expecting some cool-ass engine swap.
Not dissapointed.
Yea, the pistons swapped places
@@epaminontas6972 😂😂😂
@@szymon6207 ?
Turbo ran away
A shame is wasn't on dyno, so we could see the output at 10k.
1000hp for a split second😂
Sadly it woulndt make more than at redline, as the valve lifters arent stiff enough at such high revs. The valves would float, and that, along with the over revs, would grenade the engine.
Diesel sounds good when it revs very high 😂
Very little
😂😂😂😂
nice future, 10k RPM diesel finally comes!
It would sound better than F1, haha
Yeah I hope!
Fast reactions for a runaway well done 👍
I hope there will be a teardown or aftermath video of this.
there is:ruclips.net/video/hxyq4sP7cv8/видео.html
Love how he handled it
Very badly? He let it ran at 10k for ages, how the hell didn't he realise? I've moneyshifted (Just too early, not wrong gear), it got to about 7.5k (Petrol, and was going to rev to 9k or so, redline 7k) before I realised and put the clutch straight back in. Hence no damage. He dumped the clutch and took seconds to realise the mistake, I'd have thought you'd recognise a 6cyl diesel making a noise like a Honda quite quickly...
@@kaptinkeiff bro he didn't moneyshift, it was an engine runaway the best you can do is cut air or put it i a highergear and brakes so it shuts down, if not it will run on oil until the engine explodes
Mvrtian the engine ran away all right ran itself right out of fucking commission and right when he thought everything was going great 😂 the engine just decided it was time to leave it’s had a hard life 😂
There is always *someone* who thinks he’s better than the entire fucking universe and god himself. In this case, this is kaptinkeiff.
@@harbl2479 yeah, he is the real deal, lol
Holy shit it sounded like a porsche petrol engine
Heh 1st thing I thought
More like M3 E46
For a moment it did. Was brief though 😂
Will you do a video tearing down the engine, what made the engine ran away on its own?
Moneyshift
It sounds like oil got into the combustion chamber. Once that happens the engine will just rev its tits off and no way to control it
@@Axionary wrong.
@@dobbo_f21 i don't think so
Shifting from 3 to 2 instead of 3 to 4. Thats why you shoudnt extend your gear stick.
Had this happen on my 330d but only hit about 7k.. No engine damage. turbo oil seals let go in a bad way. Time for a B.W s360 XD
I would just connect an almost dying diesel car/truck to a obd2 port,connecc(typo on purpose) the obd2 with a phone app that reads rpm,yeet some engine oil into the intake and let her rip,see what rpm can the engine do
@@KitKitChanIsaac Same, lol. I would love to see what kinds of error the ECU would put off
that was one quick reaction to what was happening! nice work
You have to plan your exit on a live track too! Once it's stopped you can't get out to push!
vanos kicked in yo!
Wrong...valvetronic kicked in yo.
@@shaggings😂
Almost cried listening to the engine 😭😭😭😭😭😭
10,000rpm? it revved up there damn quick too.
didnt sound like a straight six any more
Straight 2
It sounds like a s65 v8 engine from the m3😂
It sounded more like an E46 M3 engine revving at 8,000 rpm to me
@@bestage9429 yeah right, still sounded very much like a straight six, just not like a diesel one lol
Hahaha that did make me laugh. Sorry mate. Clearly V-Tec wasn’t designed for a BMW.
Roger Rabbit Yes because it was designed for lawn mower...
You know it was runaway though hey?
@@milendur7398 not true, vtec changes the whole cam profile whereas vanos only changes timing.
@@milendur7398 thats why m50b25 make 192 hp and b16b make 185 hp? 😆😆😆
@@milendur7398 first of all learn what is vtec and what it do. 2019 year ppl think that vtec and vanos are same, lol. Bnw have thing like vtec and it calling valvetronic.
I was just about the write how slow he was to bang it in to gear and stall it but then I read loads of people saying quick reaction well done, so I don't think I will write that now
It wouldn't go in. I wonder how quick you could realise what was going on, check your mirrors, pull off the racing line, get it into gear and try stall it without being in the middle of the track.
It held on for quite a while!
That would scare the shit out of me tbh matey just kept his cool
Great reaction and quick response. I would have shat me pants!!
Strip Down Video here - ruclips.net/video/hxyq4sP7cv8/видео.html
This was a Runaway condition caused by overheating of the back 2 cylinders due to an M57 cooling system design issue which resulted in melted pistons and the engine running on its own oil.
Yes, but no. The pistons melting are a consequence of running away. Where did it get the oil from? What else failed?
Melting 5 and 6 isn’t going to feed oil into 1,2,3 and 4.
What flaw is in the cooling system?
330d Mugen 😂
Vtec Power higihi 🤣hahahhaha 😆😝
Those connecting rods are massive
Well, that was The well known Money Shift
It was not
Amazing!!!!
what a strong ass engine to keep 10k rpm's!!!!!!!!!!
I did this on my N47 Mini Cooper on the nurburgring. Even a remaped ECU managed this well. Did give me a scare though.
Thought the engine has a flap in the induction to prevent this from happening. I know the n47 engine has the feature.
He couldn't reach the key to turn it off properly so would need to be stopped not do it. Killing the power would not close the valve
The engine ran away. Oil got into the combustion chamber, and since it's a diesel, it does not need a spark to ignite. So the engine will eat itself. Probably piston ring failure or a hole in the piston itself. He stalled it by releasing the clutch on highest gear. It's the only way to stop a runaway engine without putting yourself at risk.
@@D3humaniz3d Oh god, stop explaining how a runaway happens. The op said about using the flap valve as a means of closing the airflow. Anyway i think it won't close unless at idle. It is there to prevent stutter on shut off.
@@soldrier You're right, I must have written this at like 2am in the morning or something.
And to answer OP' question, yes the M57 family has flaps to close off intake air. He must have either got rid of them (some people apparently do that) or the hinges on those flaps were caked in carbon and were permanently open due to the EGR.
D3 humaniz3d i don’t think that’s the case, in order for that flap to close it would require for the car to be stopped but he was on the move and instead chose to stall out the car on purpose which was the right move; waiting for the car to come to a full stop and turn the car off would’ve taken much longer.
I did that with my vw TDI. Went past redline and broke a rod and bent all the others
the ultimate money shift!
0:29 welp, what happened here.
Diesel runaway!
I was thinking there is no way a Diesel engine would rev that high.. I was wrong!
That was Awesome and costly at the same time
Should send this video to Diesel Runaway Compilation
You are welcome to share it :)
The engine what v-tec let’s try it out (blows up) 😂😂😂
Vanos kicked in too hard
Hope the car is fine now
As barry and Paul chuckle once famously said. “Oh dear oh dear “
Oooh that good ol' 2-3-2
It wasn't, read the description
Video of an engine tear down is a must on this please do it
We need to develop 8000rpm diesels
blyahhh diesel is working with compression and like it or not it doesnt go further thab maximum 5.5 6k rpm and second wtf you need tractor for to collect corn in the field lol
@@DD-ow4or i do not understand what does the compression have in common with revs.
""Engine" does not "see" the compression, but only the pressure.
High boosted gas engine on ethanol have same or higher pressure in cylinder as TD, but still can rev to 8k rpm or much more...
TD cant do it, why?
@@DD-ow4or there are scale models rc engines (like 2.5 ccm or 5 ccm displacement), running on rc fuel, not diesel, but with compression ignition. They often have max power at 25k rpm or more...
@@jareknowak8712 well thats interesting
@@jareknowak8712 Diesel burns slower. That's why they can't achieve such high rpm.
Ran aways usually run for 10 minutes?
I love diesel's, but this...this is the one thing I fear... ._.
do you mean a runaway
@@riku1313 Yep, when this happens...if one's not familiar with the problem and the ways to solve it, he'll have a hard time avoiding a worse tragedy than just a damaged engine.
@@Roddy_Zeh i mean it's super rare tho and if you want to be prepared buy a air shut off valve
@@riku1313 Yep. I thought about something the like. :) But diesels are so cool despite this risk, as much as I may fear it running away, that wouldn't stop me from having one ☺
@@Roddy_Zeh real mens talk
Would love to see a strip down on this, do you think the down shift to 3rd gear may have had something to do with it?
No the engine let some oil in and ran away. It would take a lot to make the revs hang like that otherwise. It wouldn't go into 4th as the revs increased quickly rather than dropping
@@ryanp6138 cheers for the reply 👍
how many horses? and Nm please
Had 357bhp and 739nm. Full specs are here - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/bmw-330d-3-0-24v-cr-m57d30tu2/
Looks like a porsche 911
When you engine runs on oil it’s always gonna end bad 😂
Had this once with my Renault kangoo. 1.9dti.. Put him in 5th gear and dropped the clutch.. Engine is still running..
Should have brake
Wird it didn't break down 🙄
that escalated quickly
Just when it was going good!
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I actually fucking choked.. that's effort!
That's a runaway for you
Well here we put 330D gearboxs in the OM606 swaps, so there might be room there for one?
Wow it very briefly sounded like an E46 M3!
What actually caused this? I've seen other diesel runaways but nothing quite so violent quits so suddenly.
I can just tell you that I work with the Racetrack Coach App and it helps to improve on many many tracks!
i was like how fuck how a diesel can turn that fast , he can't
Did the oil surge as you was going round corner? Maybe baffles in sump would help?
Don't think so, bad injectors I think
He went in with the stall
Its all cool but what about making it actually drivable above 6k? Om606 can rev freely to 7k, mybe with better springs 8?
Direct injection won't really do anything above 5500rpm in normal operation.
@@DarksideDevelopments great to know about it, but om 606 uses a forchamber injection, some old bmw engines also have it, shouldnt be a big problem to insert it into a newer engine, actually would be a cool video to see, high reving diesel project, and what about converting a petrol engine into diesel(1jz or rb 20 as bases)?
Wonder how much power it pushed at 10k!
Diesel just went team switch to gas for a second and then dies 😬
Higher revs immediately reminded me of M3 V8 (S65) lol
My d30 did this exact same thing at 390bhp. Rings left the chat 😂😢
0:30 rev counter on the clocks (not on the screen) confused jumping around.
I think it was something about 7500 rpm or less than 7500rpm. I heared a bmw m3 with gasoline engine on 7500 rpm. These 2 sounds are pretty similar.
Data stopped at 8k and it still climbed
@@DarksideDevelopments oh my gosh, really? 8k rpm?? That's insane for a diesel but, what a nice screaming sound!
Well at least I know where the limits are for the motors ability to rev safety even though it wasn’t safe at all it literally shredded everything with that motor😂
the piston run away
How many rods outside?
None, piston must have cracked or rod bent
Isn't the stock Dual mass flywheel too week for handling this torque for long time?
It seems to last OK
0:30 the knock.....
Is there not a rev limit to stop it revving this high in the event of a runaway?
when the engine is running on oil there is nothing you can do electronically to prevent it.
@@DarksideDevelopments true…brain fart of me acc, i was gonna say what about a mechanical governor but its oil its sucking in not diesel!!!!!!
I don’t suppose you could give me some advice on tuning a pre LCI M57 325d manual. Torque limits for gearbox/clutch, and max power before needing too uprate to 330d injectors???
Sure, drop us an email with the VIN - sales@darksidedevelopments.co.uk
This video hurts... I feel the pain and will not like this video for that.
but what's the redline?
5500rpm
PPL c'mon! He missed a gear ) Diesel chemistry limits it's maximum revs on 5-6k
It was not a missed gear, it revved past the 8000rpm maximum value in the ECU
@@DarksideDevelopments get on 4th gear. Rev to max, then quick shift to 3. It will “rev” even more ))))
@@DarksideDevelopments what you a talking about is called “runaway”. There are many videos here, but all of them do not exceed 5-6k revs. diesel engines cannot exceed these revs on its own power due combustion speed limitation. On this video driver missed a gear.
You are incorrect on both counts, watch the later video's and please get your facts straight!
@@DarksideDevelopmentsI did. You are trying to fool ppl. On 0:31 we see how driver reached top revs, ceased accelerating, up shifts, missed a gear, break engine by revving it over 10k, car slowed down (you can see it on accelerometer - right lower part of screen), than tried to put correct gear but it’s already late. So you are the one, who write here some stupid things.
That sounded mean i wonder how hard it would be to make it actually work at 10k
Can this happen in an auto?
Yeah, it's all in the engine rather than the gearbox
Scared to buy this turbo now!
It was the engine not the turbo
Did the safety car pick up the rods from the track,Love to see the bottom end.
Seems intact but certainly broken if that makes sense
How did this happen? Tuning issue?
We did another video - ruclips.net/video/hxyq4sP7cv8/видео.html
Was thinking how the fuck can a diesel rev to 11k answer is meeting Rodney 🤣🤣🤣
Why thats happened?
Runaway! - ruclips.net/video/hxyq4sP7cv8/видео.html
That's money right there
Do/ would you work on a Saab?????
Sorry, VAG and BMW only!
They said that it was the injectors 5 out of 6 failed.
At least would be good to know how VTEC is written...
The Honda guys know little about Diesels usually so it's a draw, haha
FreestylerAlbert VTEC, V-tech, Lawn mower, VTECH... same shit
why not 335d with 2 turbos?
Not as reliable for race use
Wow was that a run away issue?
Yes
0:18 you can already feel something weird, no response on full throttle.
You might be right there.
Look at the G meter and it could be the oil moving about on exit of the corner was too much this time
I doubt enough could move to make it run on.
We had a diesel run away today but we drowned the car in fuel so it turned off så no explotin the enigen is broken tho
ascended from engine to something else but not sure into what
Is this because the egr is removed from a diesel
No, it ran away on its own oil as it was breathing heavily
@@DarksideDevelopments Ah I see. How do you stop that? I ask cause I'm building a pd150 Mk4 track car.
@@Salad_Dodger77 You can run a catch can that will help - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/mann-hummel-provent-200-oil-catch-can-breather-system.html
What does ‚ran away on its own‘ mean?
Ran on oil, not diesel
Tear down on this soon ?
Couple of weeks max
why no atmospheric oil catch can?! That way will never occur that problem. Even on street+race car could run with it.
Ps: Why so hi spec build, but so low power figures?! We obtained there that kind of power from 1.9 vp37 engine, diesel only. From m57 few friends get some 500bho diesel only (also driven daily- but lower map), or 600 with nos. I do not speak about that m57 build by Dragos/complete chip (which you know for shure), but other local projects.
This was built for racing so you can't have more power. An oil catch can would not help when the pistons have holes in them!
@@DarksideDevelopments shit ..holes? how that? So rich afr there, for a relatively small power?
ps: no more power allowed due to class regulations?
Power is limited by the regulations based upon weight. AFR was super lean, It was a cooling issue, see the pinned comment.
Ferrari Formula 1 team says "why U makin' it hot for us?"
Would be nice to see some BMW content!
Rozbiegany diesel, ale szybko ogarnął co zrobić 🔥
Some amazing skill from the driver
My reaction: hmmm…. Diesel doesn’t sound good…. Oh wait O.o.. WOW!!!! Oh wait? Oh shittttttttttr