JAY SLATER Disappearance Linked To Disturbing CRIMINAL Network!

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  • @liamf-2255
    @liamf-2255 18 дней назад +1053

    The cactus needs to be spoken to.

  • @betterfinances-UK
    @betterfinances-UK 18 дней назад +1196

    Too much detail in Ayoub's story, naming the brand of cigarettes seems off. Liars make the story elaborate.

    • @DomBee-df5nl
      @DomBee-df5nl 18 дней назад

      They always paint themselves out to be the nicest person on earth as well which is what he did. We all know he's a scumbag

    • @Alex-sc9qc
      @Alex-sc9qc 18 дней назад +88

      That's exactly what I said when I heard that detectives interview. Someone asks for a cig it's yeah or no.. not 'I've got camels?'

    • @kieranfields9985
      @kieranfields9985 18 дней назад +43

      He comes across as a manipulator

    • @darrenjjmilligan8746
      @darrenjjmilligan8746 18 дней назад

      Was it not jay who hot humped?

    • @dougaldouglas8842
      @dougaldouglas8842 18 дней назад +50

      @@Alex-sc9qc The detective is a wrong, n as he covered for the parents of Madeline

  • @JackMarzetti
    @JackMarzetti 10 дней назад +54

    Loads of people his age have been reported missing and other people have been killed his age in this country since all this

  • @peterpisspotty3052
    @peterpisspotty3052 8 дней назад +72

    His "friends" show no panic that he has been missing for days - just very matter of fact - young bloke is smirking - zero concern - really odd.

    • @kellz5135
      @kellz5135 7 дней назад +2

      How many have you been sat with then, to come to this conclusion?

    • @jaggirl
      @jaggirl 5 дней назад +4

      Extremely odd behaviour.

    • @kellz5135
      @kellz5135 5 дней назад +1

      @@jaggirl odd behaviour as per your opinion doesn't cut it

    • @louisemanning9542
      @louisemanning9542 4 дня назад

      I say odd
      Behavior to they put his phone thier why would he run so fast after a night of getting super high because that’s what you do at raves ,you don’t get up at 8 & run into the desert ,oops I cut myself on a cattus ,I thought you didn’t want to be there,are they trying to act like after being cut he ran deeper into the desert not walking on the road maybe the bus would drive by as he walks ,you kniw😮that would make sense walking 25miles
      High on molly ,coke weed strange to run jump into the desert and get lost after you stole someone so watch 60k on the low end

  • @baddopamine
    @baddopamine 17 дней назад +863

    Damn, TG gave better angles on the disappearance than the entire mainstream media.

    • @sunstardrummer
      @sunstardrummer 17 дней назад +29

      Common sense+street smart😊

    • @james5796
      @james5796 17 дней назад +8

      The content is good but I wish he would speak slower

    • @grahamhireme9283
      @grahamhireme9283 17 дней назад +37

      Listen faster

    • @MrChilliMan
      @MrChilliMan 17 дней назад

      MSM don’t want to glamorise what Jays involved in by telling the lost generation about how easy it is to make money being a criminal which is a good thing not to show

    • @nxclyons
      @nxclyons 16 дней назад

      @@james5796slow down the video then 💀

  • @Itsnotcomplicatedreally
    @Itsnotcomplicatedreally 18 дней назад +821

    This is better than any coverage from MSM on this

    • @paulwally9007
      @paulwally9007 18 дней назад +32

      Indeed it is. This is the best video I've seen on the subject.

    • @lorrainegreen6016
      @lorrainegreen6016 18 дней назад +25

      Agreed 👍

    • @pinkystenis22
      @pinkystenis22 17 дней назад +5

      ​@@paulwally9007 is it? The title and the first 3 sentences he says are completely at odds

    • @michaelball1887
      @michaelball1887 17 дней назад +11

      He is jumping on the clicks\views bandwagon ain't told us anything we don't already know tbh

    • @jollyroge5835
      @jollyroge5835 17 дней назад

      👍Absolutely TOP JOB @TrueGeordie 👏 I'm on catch up with some of this and we all know the old MSN is full of s**t Agenda2030 priority and all that 🤷‍♀️

  • @Nnn-t2z
    @Nnn-t2z 10 дней назад +153

    The way the tv channels media portrays him as clean cut and ignore his criminal past is manipulative and deceptive. They never report the full truth.

    • @occupiedaustralia9952
      @occupiedaustralia9952 8 дней назад +11

      typical mainstream .

    • @EH_1995
      @EH_1995 8 дней назад +28

      If this was a young black yout, best believe it would be veryyy different

    • @marranm4950
      @marranm4950 8 дней назад +5

      Yes I agree with you as a white person !

    • @Beasley899
      @Beasley899 7 дней назад +2

      The matrix

    • @thephantomterence9211
      @thephantomterence9211 7 дней назад +2

      Just look how they reporting the “Jenna Side” across the world…fork the media

  • @s6456
    @s6456 11 дней назад +15

    The UK is full of young lads who wear balaclavas routinely, carry blades and get involved in petty criminality and get a sense of invulnerability from it. I suspect Slater is one of them (plus a machete gang attack) and has taken his "village in Lancashire" attitude abroad where things are a bit different.

    • @alidaniels2487
      @alidaniels2487 8 дней назад

      Even in a little tourist town in Majorca you need to be careful who you fuck with. A lot of the Moroccans and Gitanos have tentacles everywhere especially when it comes to the drugs trade

  • @shackanory
    @shackanory 17 дней назад +2102

    Met a dealer, went back to the gaff they’d rented, robbed the drugs and legged it. Got caught. Simple.

    • @PeterPopsoff
      @PeterPopsoff 17 дней назад +298

      Bingo...Either that or he snorted up what he was supposed to sell. Fairly obvious.

    • @sugar4522
      @sugar4522 17 дней назад +36

      @@PeterPopsoffagreed

    • @poz21983
      @poz21983 17 дней назад +24

      Yea that's wer my mind goes

    • @michellew4637
      @michellew4637 17 дней назад +182

      Absolutely. He fcked around and found out.

    • @alexp448
      @alexp448 17 дней назад

      Yep, little wrongen fucked about and got buried. All his little wrongen mates know what's going on. Lyers.

  • @DreadWaaaghGaming
    @DreadWaaaghGaming 18 дней назад +1810

    A 19 yr old who apparently wants to carry on partying, leaves the party town, doesn't look for a house party or late bar. He instead choses to go with a fella he would consider old to the middle of nowhere. Total bull.

    • @kitcat4512
      @kitcat4512 18 дней назад +130

      They took him somewhere...

    • @mamolebohengsenyane8443
      @mamolebohengsenyane8443 18 дней назад +64

      They should be brought back to Spain to be questioned again untill truth came!!Ladies ana gentleman around the world where is Jay please help!!!

    • @AshHamiltonFTW
      @AshHamiltonFTW 18 дней назад +278

      That doesn’t seem too nonsensical to me honestly, I’ve been 19 out drinking and ended up meeting people I’ve never met before who might have been older but they’re sound and we just continued after the clubs shut, it’s not that crazy of a story, not saying it’s the one that happened but acting like 19 year olds would never do that is crazy

    • @NLGNATHAN
      @NLGNATHAN 18 дней назад +77

      @@AshHamiltonFTW Same, done it loads when i was younger.

    • @matlockmeat
      @matlockmeat 18 дней назад +116

      ​@AshHamiltonFTW but these people just happened to be heroin and crack dealers who had just done a 9 year prison sentence.

  • @julia061174
    @julia061174 10 дней назад +57

    Loooooong long time ago, when we were living in collapsed Russia, no one had any money, only criminals. My little brother (he was just a child) somewhat romanticised that life. And I never forget what my dad said, he said "those people don't live long,not many live past 30".

    • @tr3vk4m
      @tr3vk4m 10 дней назад

      🫂

    • @brownowl70
      @brownowl70 9 дней назад +5

      There are some great documentaries on BBC iplayer about that time in the USSR called Traumazone. They are jaw dropping. It's proper journalism, unlike most of youtube.

    • @randomcomputer7248
      @randomcomputer7248 8 дней назад +3

      @@brownowl70 BBC lol

    • @tanyak9349
      @tanyak9349 7 дней назад +1

      noone had money, only criminals? вы не работали? родители пьянствовали? образование не получили? и дальше "выводы" - истины из серии "спасибо, кэп" для незатейливых умов. я думаю, где-то очень обрадовались, что вы больше не там

    • @julia061174
      @julia061174 7 дней назад

      @@tanyak9349 женщина, вы не помните времена развала советского союза? Вы не помните, как цены поднимались каждую неделю? Как за работу не платили по несколько месяцев?

  • @Curryking32000
    @Curryking32000 9 дней назад +67

    He was running away from someone or something, went offroad to avoid being captured. They caught up with him, found him, murdered him and threw him off a cliff to make it look like an accident. He was involved in the drug scene and got mixed up with some really dangerous characters.

    • @CommanderJ135
      @CommanderJ135 9 дней назад +9

      That's exactly what I was thinking simple! 👍🏽

    • @aasmust6154
      @aasmust6154 9 дней назад +4

      Lol, the theories are going wilder and wilder lol 😅😅😅😅😅

    • @NotMyChannel1962
      @NotMyChannel1962 8 дней назад +1

      That's what i reckon.

    • @mixedprincess_
      @mixedprincess_ 8 дней назад

      @@aasmust6154do u honestly believe he walked 7 hours? And didn’t think to get a Uber (since there people who want to say there’s no Uber in Spain, look up cabify. Its exactly like Uber)
      U can book a taxi in Spain I have lol

    • @GeoffreyHellington
      @GeoffreyHellington 8 дней назад

      There's no way he'd caused anyone serious enough in the drug scene enough grief for them to cause that much noise at his age. You survive in that world by keeping quiet... maybe if they were stupid and fresh to the scene, but then they'd be unlikely to pull it off without leaving obvious traces. Unfortunately this going lad was probably addled from the drugs, low on smarts, and lost his life completely unnecessary. Bit of a Darwin award contender tbh, sad but more likely to be true than some wild and distracting conspiracy

  • @user-bv5lc1nf5d
    @user-bv5lc1nf5d 18 дней назад +772

    I'm just waiting for Gazza to turn up with sandwiches and a fishing rod.

  • @MrShlong50x
    @MrShlong50x 17 дней назад +986

    The random kindness of some convicted criminals staying in a remote location that's booked in a fake name always gives me more faith in humanity. Handing out fresh bath towels, cigarettes and giving you free reign to use other peoples stuff while they are asleep, shows even the worst types of criminals are capable of reform. They must have been truly gutted when their respected guest mysteriously vanished after such unfathomable kind hospitality. The world can be so beautiful and cruel all at the same time!

    • @user-kt2qz8eg2v
      @user-kt2qz8eg2v 17 дней назад +61

      Love this 😂

    • @PensPensPens-gs1by
      @PensPensPens-gs1by 17 дней назад +17

      🤣

    • @Frank_MC
      @Frank_MC 17 дней назад +17

      @@MrShlong50x funny one 😂

    • @GordyB666
      @GordyB666 17 дней назад +31

      Bless the minds of innocent impressionable kids who believe a village cafe owner, an airbnb host, the police and mountain rescue are all engaged in a conspiracy with some tourists who befriended an entire group days earlier just to unalive a 19 year old for some reason and cover it up 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @stevied653
      @stevied653 17 дней назад +26

      Lulled into a false sense of security

  • @peterwillson1355
    @peterwillson1355 12 дней назад +7

    I'm fucking glad i don't have friends like Jay had.

  • @jamesbomd3503
    @jamesbomd3503 11 дней назад +136

    I once broken window At the job centre the staff were livid and called the police I ran for my life Terrified I ran into the woods Waded through the canal Just like John Rambo and survived the night, Next morning The police were waiting for me at my house , That taught me a valuable life lesson,

    • @lasso248
      @lasso248 10 дней назад +6

      😂

    • @bobpond5024
      @bobpond5024 10 дней назад +3

      @@lasso248you can make a coat out of scrap materials and suture your own skin 😂

    • @binagarten4667
      @binagarten4667 10 дней назад +5

      Nothing, Nothing is over!

    • @fifihome1386
      @fifihome1386 10 дней назад +3

      Dod you the job interview at the end 😅

    • @yenyeng6867
      @yenyeng6867 10 дней назад +4

      "I once broken window" that was the funniest part of the comment.

  • @KellysHeroes777
    @KellysHeroes777 16 дней назад +886

    He thought he was a badman, f**ked around and found out. End of

    • @chris94kennedy
      @chris94kennedy 16 дней назад +89

      yeah case closed. Play stupid games win stupid prizes

    • @johnclinton4049
      @johnclinton4049 16 дней назад +23

      Agreed i said exactly the same thing , one of the main reasons i never choose that life it's not just for anyone

    • @H1GH.FL1Y3R
      @H1GH.FL1Y3R 15 дней назад +15

      Do you know where your kids are and what they are up to?

    • @davidknell8831
      @davidknell8831 15 дней назад +14

      Or he just fell and died

    • @PeresD
      @PeresD 15 дней назад +1

      Facts !

  • @mattjlr8665
    @mattjlr8665 16 дней назад +773

    Me and the lads literally just got back from Tenerife where the locals are all pretty certain he muled a bunch of gear onto the island. He’s either used it, lost it, or sold it himself and has faced the consequences.
    No locals seemed at all surprised and most people seemed to think that the Spanish police don’t really want the English involved as it opens a can of worms that would expose most of the island which, let’s face it, is basically an economy dependant on tourism and the drug trade. Seemed to me that this is a common occurrence just this time it’s an English kid.

    • @19thnervousbreakdown80
      @19thnervousbreakdown80 16 дней назад

      How much "gear" did you hoop over there? What's the biggest you've keystered? How do you and the lads practice and prepare for that? Finger action? Tongue swirls? Veggies? Matt you dirty lad. Listen, you'll probably be a man one day; don't put your nasty habits on line for your kids and grandkids to read later. Unless you intend to be a party "hooper" forever!

    • @skygod1975
      @skygod1975 16 дней назад +54

      Either of those three means when Jay's been asked he doesn't have it. It fits with my theory he's been dealt with by the beach near the nightclub rave whatever,he's either injured to make him take notice or he's slowly bleeding out. He's taken to the bnb. His mate(s) are informed. A plan is hatched. Jay wants hell out of there. Guys responsible for what he's lost turn up. Everyone incriminated and decided to cast a plan of alibi.

    • @PaulMacdowell-mg8ch
      @PaulMacdowell-mg8ch 15 дней назад +18

      well said . as I've been saying it's nothing new been going on for 30 + years . only becomes apparent now a day's because of tick tok and the likes. hope you enjoyed yourself on the reef .

    • @Benharcombe
      @Benharcombe 15 дней назад +4

      This is most likely after reading the posts on fb theories or not it’s what happens

    • @cannibalcheese
      @cannibalcheese 15 дней назад +43

      I lived over there. The police are currupt AF. Saw them batter someone and chuck them in a wheelie bin on veronicas.

  • @BridgetLouise
    @BridgetLouise 12 дней назад +19

    His “friend” that guy chewing gun is reallyyyy dodgyyyy 😮

    • @jamesmurray2345
      @jamesmurray2345 5 дней назад

      Chewed a gun...owch

    • @SummerMayDay
      @SummerMayDay 2 дня назад

      So is Lucy. The first half of her gofundme is spent setting up an alibi for herself.

  • @Shaun-tc9yh
    @Shaun-tc9yh 12 дней назад +15

    That dealer payed the Tenerife police off for sure

    • @hsk2909
      @hsk2909 7 дней назад +2

      At the time, the police was looking for a missing person as he was reported as such by his friend Lucy. Why would the police assume that a crime or homicide has occurred? Tourists get lost in Tenerife every few weeks, it's not like its a new thing around here. Unless the police has a suspicion of some crime having been committed, on what grounds do you and everyone else on this track of thinking suggest that the police should HOLD someone from returning home from their holiday?? I don't quite understand? Is there a netfhits crime series where the law has been perverted to such degree that the police does that fictionally and therefore people think its real or what? Please explain yourselves, because i don't know how you go about the thought of looking for a reported missing person to a sudden suspicion of homicide or something similar?

    • @Shaun-tc9yh
      @Shaun-tc9yh 6 дней назад

      @@hsk2909 well my thinking is that his story was flimsy at best and after the 48 hour mark most missing people cases end up turning into murder investigations right?
      As we now know he did in fact die, probably murdered by these two drug dealers.
      Perhaps they didn’t pay the police off but it does stink to high heaven.

    • @sabrinat.8146
      @sabrinat.8146 7 часов назад +1

      Man Tenerife is not Tijuana

    • @Shaun-tc9yh
      @Shaun-tc9yh 4 часа назад

      @@hsk2909 it’s not that deep mate calm down. Just a throwaway comment.
      I would say that your comment hasn’t aged well though did it?

  • @matthewdunn6722
    @matthewdunn6722 17 дней назад +669

    thing about the mainstream media they always act like the person that went missing was an angel

    • @user-tc3ml9js8u
      @user-tc3ml9js8u 15 дней назад +86

      *if they are white

    • @Lore-mc7zw
      @Lore-mc7zw 15 дней назад +50

      @@user-tc3ml9js8u Maybe 20 years ago buddy.

    • @k4yser
      @k4yser 15 дней назад +94

      lol, what are you on about? If he was black they would only show baby pictures of him and talk about how good of a kid he was.
      This is what they always do, because showing the kid doing gang signs doesn't fit the narrative.

    • @streetsiswatching9660
      @streetsiswatching9660 15 дней назад +3

      ​@@k4yser nope

    • @secreteobsession3584
      @secreteobsession3584 15 дней назад

      ​@@Lore-mc7zwno mate its still the same today deal with it. Weren't lying here when a white child or teen or adult goes missing no info on parents or adults background but any other race including black people your Exploited before you even begin

  • @dianeappleyard8872
    @dianeappleyard8872 17 дней назад +149

    The men take Jay into the mountains make him phone Lucy and tell her the story of being out of battery and thirsty giving the police somewhere false to start looking. In the meantime they take him miles in the other direction to do him in or maybe hand him off to the people he's pissed off ( for whatever reason) with the same outcome. But great analysis of the facts X

    • @liammc433
      @liammc433 16 дней назад +29

      Yep, the whole "he walked in the wilderness and dropped a pin to prove it, also he got cut by a cactus" is all an obvious cover story.

    • @kendrapinder7277
      @kendrapinder7277 16 дней назад +25

      No, I think Lucy is the key here to all involved. She's the link

    • @manbearpig7521
      @manbearpig7521 15 дней назад +4

      This makes sense. Why she is hiding from them.

    • @wayne5240
      @wayne5240 15 дней назад +11

      @@kendrapinder7277she definitely knows everything

  • @melodymacken9788
    @melodymacken9788 2 дня назад +2

    Who needs enemies when you've got friends like this.

  • @allan1951
    @allan1951 10 дней назад +26

    Typical conspiracy stories, they found him where he went missing.

    • @petertaylor3446
      @petertaylor3446 10 дней назад +3

      Pretty sure they would find anything where it went missing, it's like saying where do you find a tortoise with no legs, where you left it

    • @daveg-Vancouver_Island
      @daveg-Vancouver_Island 9 дней назад

      @@petertaylor3446but it will be easy to tell if he was murdered or died from exposure!

    • @petertaylor3446
      @petertaylor3446 9 дней назад +1

      @@daveg-Vancouver_Island or he fell from a height into a ravine or was pushed into it?

    • @Kallum1999
      @Kallum1999 7 дней назад +2

      @@daveg-Vancouver_Island are you joking? The boy was possibly decomposing over the course of a month, that’s well into the stage 4, everything would have been liquified by that point

    • @aidanwelton6083
      @aidanwelton6083 7 дней назад

      So y did hes mates say they was on call to him in mountain n he walked far. Howd he end up back there idg it

  • @ASOA_STRENGTH
    @ASOA_STRENGTH 18 дней назад +399

    That lad being interviewed is clearly either still on drugs or not long since had some. Clear gurning, chewing gum to help stop it, can't sit still or keep eye contact and difficult to show sad emotions. Textbook.

    • @AlteredSt8s
      @AlteredSt8s 18 дней назад +66

      I thought the same, blatantly just done a huge bump seconds before filming

    • @CaroleGilbert-b8u
      @CaroleGilbert-b8u 18 дней назад +15

      They all been told what to say

    • @mistaschaub3280
      @mistaschaub3280 18 дней назад +47

      ​@@CaroleGilbert-b8u yep just listening to him reminds me of being at school when you have to make up a story and you don't even understand it your just blagging it

    • @ryanbeatbox8274
      @ryanbeatbox8274 18 дней назад +25

      His best mate either died in the wilderness of dehydration or has been abducting and killed by someone on the island.. id probably be doing some drugs too mate.

    • @fratboyjim5309
      @fratboyjim5309 18 дней назад +16

      Plot twist, he had a flat slug of sniff with the production team before the interview took place.

  • @brianmuirie4223
    @brianmuirie4223 17 дней назад +245

    Finally, a concise video with facts layed out for us to ponder rather than conspiracy theories being shoved down our throats…. and you have the balls to say he was a wrong ‘un. 👏

    • @buyop9441
      @buyop9441 13 дней назад +1

      Thank you for your comment but please spell words properly - ‘laid’ not ‘layed’.

    • @brianmuirie4223
      @brianmuirie4223 13 дней назад

      @@buyop9441 thank you. I’m normally the stickler for spelling and grammar but you got me there. Must be the beers 🍻

    • @goodyeoman4534
      @goodyeoman4534 12 дней назад

      But I've seen plenty of articles in the MSM saying the same thing.

    • @goodyeoman4534
      @goodyeoman4534 12 дней назад +3

      @@buyop9441 You need to have a comma between "comment" and "please." Please use correct grammar next time you post a pedantic comment.

    • @NoHeartAnthony
      @NoHeartAnthony 12 дней назад

      This is clearly a conspiracy theory

  • @TheBuscuitmen
    @TheBuscuitmen 11 дней назад +142

    26,000 people found value in this video. A video that turns out to be utter nonsense. This should be a scary reminder how easily anyone with a flashy camera, good microphone, clean set and sharp editing skills can convince thousands of people total untruths.

    • @hauckcat
      @hauckcat 11 дней назад +21

      He didn’t say what had happened but he did question some of the weird events. It is very sad that Jay lost his life. It is weird that he ended up at that Airbnb with 2 strangers, that his friends didn’t offer to get him when he phoned them and that he decided to walk 11 hours back.

    • @Kaij-
      @Kaij- 11 дней назад +33

      Just because a body has been found, a MONTH after he went missing doesnt mean anything said in this video couldn't be true though?

    • @ac1646
      @ac1646 11 дней назад +5

      BBC anyone?

    • @ryanstratford9247
      @ryanstratford9247 10 дней назад +10

      How so, drug using possibly dealing going missing after using possibly selling drugs or buying, isn't at all surprising. His friend is clearly drugged up while having his interview. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @richyl6849
      @richyl6849 10 дней назад +14

      It’s not utter nonsense. The lad basically ran off cause he’d stollen a watch and died of exposure. Sounds like his own wannabe gangsta fault.

  • @susanlongyear1229
    @susanlongyear1229 9 дней назад +6

    Hi True Geordie.. brilliant video you say it as it is, l have learnt a lot more about the Jay Slater disappearing case , thanks for explaining everything.. l have just subscribed to you.... keep the videos coming

  • @Vile_Entity_3545
    @Vile_Entity_3545 15 дней назад +178

    Doing wrong when you are a kid and know you are going to get the wrath of your parents is what sets you on the right path. It is exactly that what turns people most of the time into good enough adults.
    If you don’t get chastised by your parents you don’t know wrong from right.

    • @traceyhuish6229
      @traceyhuish6229 12 дней назад +5

      What a load of rubbish your talking 😂 so your saying it's parents fault then your saying he don't know right from wrong 😂 what planet are you on

    • @Vile_Entity_3545
      @Vile_Entity_3545 12 дней назад +13

      @@traceyhuish6229 Don’t make me laugh karen.

    • @Goldenfish-o5p
      @Goldenfish-o5p 11 дней назад +1

      He has some loving parents.. probably went on vacation already betcha.. the sh-d if they care, prayers out tho 😢

    • @250891dt
      @250891dt 10 дней назад +3

      What a load of bullshit, the lad who grew up in my area getting a smack of his dad, got a life sentence for killing him.... Yeah getting the wrath of his dad really made him turn out into a golden citizen didn't it 😂

    • @tims7250
      @tims7250 10 дней назад +3

      Psychologically it's easy to presume your statement is true yet there's zero statistics to back up the fact if a child comes from a good or bad background that they will follow the same path. This means people can be great parents and still have "born bad" kids

  • @dallen977
    @dallen977 18 дней назад +242

    In my opinion...
    All the ones involved in Jay's disappearance are getting the stories in order for the media. Next week, a close friend will remember something vital or a message they forgot to share.

    • @SAABROSSON
      @SAABROSSON 18 дней назад +10

      Jay C. U Slater I'm offski with these two black brittish dudes.
      I'm just hoping his back door didn't get crashed into, and he makes it home.

    • @williamcarrington61
      @williamcarrington61 17 дней назад +8

      Those were the Jays my friend, he thought they'd never end .

    • @w8m4n
      @w8m4n 17 дней назад +1

      ​@@williamcarrington61😂

    • @nathanharlow1315
      @nathanharlow1315 17 дней назад

      Yeah but they way the media work they love to distract and draw people in so they are bound to give people little drips of info to keep their attention going, but yes agree with you

    • @SueFirth-ss5ml
      @SueFirth-ss5ml 17 дней назад +14

      Whether it's connected to the drugs or the stolen watch, he's messed up somehow . Wouldn't be surprised if he's been bumped off and his friends know it, but are trying to cover it up .
      Maybe they fear their own safety if they were to make a statement naming the people that killed him .
      The more facts that are coming out , the more dodgey it sounds 😒

  • @nelsonpodcasts
    @nelsonpodcasts 11 дней назад +127

    Well, this aged well.

  • @sentientthundertank2079
    @sentientthundertank2079 12 дней назад +34

    When I was young I was told my friends died in a fire, I laughed then cried, my mind didn't know how to process it, the permanence of death, the horrific circumstances surrounding their death, it was an experience I'd never had, I had no frame of reference for it, it gave me guilt for years until I grew and understood how emotions really work, it didn't make me happy it terrified me and my brain just kicked out a response based on shock.

    • @symbiote1982pk
      @symbiote1982pk 10 дней назад +8

      It's quite common for stress to cause laughter pal, don't worry about it.

    • @peterpisspotty3052
      @peterpisspotty3052 10 дней назад +1

      This is a brilliant synopsis of what many believe

    • @user-jd7tv7oj5s
      @user-jd7tv7oj5s 10 дней назад

      You should see my doctor

    • @sentientthundertank2079
      @sentientthundertank2079 10 дней назад

      @symbiote1982pk yeah I'm in my 40's now, I was 6 when it happened, I've had a lot of time to think about it, I've met other people since who have had similar experiences, our minds are complex in one way but our "personalities" are just a stack of memories, happy ones and traumatic ones and everything in between, we make decisions and behave based on our memories, we call it a personality but really it's just a bunch of parameters.

    • @sentientthundertank2079
      @sentientthundertank2079 10 дней назад +1

      @user-jd7tv7oj5s seen plenty, at this point I'm starting to think they're as clueless as the rest of us

  • @fidgetspinner343
    @fidgetspinner343 18 дней назад +268

    The most bizarre thing is how the UK media totally ignored the machete and drug mule thing.

    • @Carrie-h2b
      @Carrie-h2b 18 дней назад +6

      Ummm...its full of it.

    • @seanyrobbo1
      @seanyrobbo1 17 дней назад +32

      Because he's a white guy.

    • @christiansaunders6675
      @christiansaunders6675 17 дней назад +16

      The machete attack came out almost at once, and the mule thing is just a theory like all the others.

    • @PiNGMusic-iv3yz
      @PiNGMusic-iv3yz 17 дней назад

      @@fidgetspinner343 why would they have reported his past convictions as part of the missing persons appeal.. so the court of public opinion and Facebook detectives can decide if this lad is worth caring about or not?
      Also the ‘drug mule’ thing was made up by bored yummy mummies on Facebook. Zero evidence to it either

    • @carolwebber9247
      @carolwebber9247 17 дней назад +11

      What do you mean, its been plastered everywhere?

  • @SharonaPJ
    @SharonaPJ 18 дней назад +742

    Those 2 fellas have killed him and either buried him or he's been dumped at sea.

    • @winnersclub6836
      @winnersclub6836 18 дней назад +44

      Or dissolved

    • @martinleonard1992
      @martinleonard1992 18 дней назад +43

      Sea😊

    • @MrNiceGuy8922
      @MrNiceGuy8922 18 дней назад +69

      ​@@martinleonard1992why are you so happy about him dumped in the sea😂

    • @jamesphilipson1289
      @jamesphilipson1289 18 дней назад +47

      The police would surely have the phone companies look up the GPS info from their phones to see where they went en route to the airport. Or if their phones happened to be off between leaving the air bnb and arriving at the airport or wherever, that would be weird too. They'd also be able to tell how much charge the phone actually had when it was turned off and back on again as there's a memory for that too. Police aren't that daft, it would be ideal if that stuff revealed what happened but it likely didn't as the guys are still free

    • @Saitama24691
      @Saitama24691 18 дней назад +71

      U know that snap pic of him outside the air BnB having a cig, they could've held him from the back and took that pic to make it look like he's alive taking a snap 😮

  • @JazzKumarISP
    @JazzKumarISP 11 дней назад +4

    Great video. Good work. A lot of unanswered questions and now a body has been found.

  • @animaheq
    @animaheq 9 дней назад +4

    Lol you made me laugh so hard several times already with how blunt you are and i'm only halway through hahaha 'how can u show emotion if u dont show your f**kin face', 'chewing his gum and smiling straight up weird mate' and 'yeah just leave him we'll enjoy our holiday' were probably my favs so far 😂😂 so on point I salute u dude 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @123pilpil
    @123pilpil 18 дней назад +304

    The cut by cactus is weird, almost like someone throwing up a reason why the police might find blood somewhere

    • @Northstar-Media
      @Northstar-Media 18 дней назад +40

      I thought exactly the same thing & air bb was apparently cleaned n painted net day

    • @harpsailorharp6716gg
      @harpsailorharp6716gg 18 дней назад +26

      exactly ❤ ... I thought that lucy was offering up a immediate alibi with that cactus comment

    • @shonwamcfeckerty7363
      @shonwamcfeckerty7363 18 дней назад +16

      @@harpsailorharp6716ggmaybe they shanked his leg that’s why Lucy said his legs cut

    • @babe1er
      @babe1er 18 дней назад

      If he was smart or had media training he wld of left that bit out 💯💯

    • @PullMyPudding
      @PullMyPudding 17 дней назад +13

      @@Northstar-Mediado you actually have any evidence it was painted the next day? Or is it just another rumour with no evidence again?

  • @sarahjones9072
    @sarahjones9072 16 дней назад +139

    "You'd lose your life looking for your own kids." So true!

  • @merlin8514
    @merlin8514 8 дней назад +6

    I have watched tonnes of videos relating to this incident and yours is by far the most informative 👍

  • @kevinbarrett6639
    @kevinbarrett6639 12 дней назад +8

    The clue to the mystery is the watch! It was a rolex and it's a status symbol among rap artists, I'll leave it at that

    • @jamessunderland7435
      @jamessunderland7435 11 дней назад +1

      We refer to them as Balrogs now.

    • @wendybookboo639
      @wendybookboo639 10 дней назад +1

      Isn't rolex slang for cocaine ?

    • @SummerMayDay
      @SummerMayDay 2 дня назад

      @@wendybookboo639It wasn’t a Rolex. It was an AP. They’re worth hundreds of thousands of pounds. Jay may not have known that, judging by his snap.

  • @veroniquehill9314
    @veroniquehill9314 16 дней назад +163

    So first they said he went back to the airbnb because he wanted to continue partying, but now they’re saying he went back because he lost his hotel key and his friends left him so he couldn’t get into his room. Which one is it? And if it’s the second one, why would you rather drive 1 hour away/12 hour walk away with random strangers that are 10+ years old than you and convicted criminals rather than just go to your hotel and try to get back into your room? If that was me, I’d make my way back to the room and see if any staff there could help me out. He’s been staying there for 3 days at this point. It wasn’t an airbnb he was staying at with Lucy and Brad but a hotel, WITH STAFF ON HAND 24/7. Some members of staff must recognise him. Plus he was at a rave, he must have had ID on him or he wouldn’t be allowed in. He could have showed ID to staff in the reception of the hotel and they’d be able to check this against the ID on the room and let him in with a master key no? Or even if that wouldn’t work, isn’t making your way up to the room and banging on the door to see if Brad/Lucy wake up a safer bet than going so far with random criminals almost twice your age? Heck I’d even rather sleep on the floor of the hotel reception …. But I guess I just think differently tho 😅

    • @exotikz7905
      @exotikz7905 16 дней назад +12

      People need to realise that apart from everything you just the convicted criminal thing can’t be held against him how tf would you know if someone is a convicted criminal lmao

    • @phil.f.9930
      @phil.f.9930 16 дней назад

      ​@@exotikz7905Read up he was jail for flooding drugs into wales. Yet he is still allowed in the UK.

    • @boundsgreenboy8354
      @boundsgreenboy8354 16 дней назад

      Probably because he's been selling drugs far longer than him.

    • @m6_jedi953
      @m6_jedi953 16 дней назад +15

      Exactly 👌🏽 n yes very stange i think something happend when he got off with the 2 guys cos he obviously left that bnb rapid as if he had yo get away quick n thats why he went offroad so they couldn't chase him down in a car where hed be spotted easily, ive clubbed raved been allover n partied i know the kind of trouble you can get yourself into i hope im wrong but ive got a strong feeling im not

    • @zonta71
      @zonta71 15 дней назад +6

      You are a rational person with no motives but party and enjoy the holiday. Different if you got stops to pickup gear and distribute

  • @ukcurlygrl1
    @ukcurlygrl1 18 дней назад +394

    There's no way those men mix with the likes of Jay. It's all related to narcotics

    • @stevenhull5025
      @stevenhull5025 18 дней назад +27

      Maybe a drug deal gone wrong?? Happens a lot in the drug business.

    • @annahowell6396
      @annahowell6396 18 дней назад +50

      Everything about this case leads back to drugs

    • @lyonhartgreyflag
      @lyonhartgreyflag 18 дней назад

      Yes they do. These 30-40yo poison pushers love hanging about with 20yo it makes them feel big as us their own group would wrap them up 😂 groomers. Dealers are a level down from a kiddy fiddler in my eyes. Both muts. The kid fucked about n found out. He is fish food

    • @noriwilliams4637
      @noriwilliams4637 18 дней назад +5

      Was he a bit slow ?

    • @Irene-qe5hu
      @Irene-qe5hu 18 дней назад

      I think his mother knows what he was up to out there...he's gone to sell drugs hoping to come home with mega bucks to share with them and bragging....let's face it trainee brickies don't earn much do they ?

  • @OddRedOne1980
    @OddRedOne1980 11 дней назад +2

    Wow! This breakdown makes the most sense and reason by far compared to any other theories or speculation I’ve seen elsewhere. Fair play.

  • @Jamborambo35
    @Jamborambo35 11 дней назад +24

    The lads from a tarnished past, attempted murder and drugs involvement, he chose to walk 11 hours instead of waiting for the bus.
    The lad got involved with the wrong bunch, my guess is he messed with the wrong two lads hence why they used alias, he felt too uncomfortable to stay, probs come out for him and he ran into the Forrest area got done in,
    The girls hiding because she fears these men will come after her too, it’s not rocket science !!!
    Painting this lad out as an angel is wrong he got on the wrong side of someone simple.
    All dodgy as hell.

  • @Book-Mark
    @Book-Mark 16 дней назад +328

    I've not seen one genuine tear shed for this young kid. Not one.

  • @fergusstevenston
    @fergusstevenston 18 дней назад +404

    Went doing a sales job, got greedy, found out.

    • @M05tly
      @M05tly 17 дней назад +15

      Aye, fuked something up and had to bail, might have lost product, owed debt. Maybe died in the middle of no where wasted, or got done by someone.
      The guy who rented the Airbnb is behind it.

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat 17 дней назад +4

      ​@M05tly too obvious . Can't be the Airbnb guy. More complicated than that

    • @AdamGordon1
      @AdamGordon1 17 дней назад +1

      ​@nyakwarObat it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

    • @nyakwarObat
      @nyakwarObat 17 дней назад +1

      @@AdamGordon1 not necessarily the duck though

    • @patbaron8197
      @patbaron8197 16 дней назад

      Exactly that.

  • @SummerMayDay
    @SummerMayDay 2 дня назад +1

    I feel so bad for Jay. His friends don’t give a F about him. His mother is using him as a cash cow, didn’t search for him, couldn’t even shed ONE tear. He’s just a kid.

  • @emendymedia
    @emendymedia 18 дней назад +535

    Imagine going partying with your mates on your first holiday and within 3 days it turns into a R Rated Inbetweeners episode.

    • @Carrie-h2b
      @Carrie-h2b 18 дней назад +21

      If anything hopefully others learn from this .

    • @hp4602
      @hp4602 17 дней назад +17

      He wasn't on holiday

    • @scottcarruthers3865
      @scottcarruthers3865 17 дней назад

      F

    • @Etch-on4oi
      @Etch-on4oi 17 дней назад +8

      Yeah, don't be a criminal​@@Carrie-h2b

    • @alexblake5264
      @alexblake5264 17 дней назад +6

      jay cartwright

  • @matthewroberts157
    @matthewroberts157 17 дней назад +142

    He robbed them, slipped off quietly thinking he’d get a bus out of there and disappeared. When they realised they’d been robbed they caught up with him walking back. He’s dead and buried

    • @Chirimbolos88
      @Chirimbolos88 17 дней назад +27

      That's my theory too.

    • @gavintate7659
      @gavintate7659 17 дней назад +24

      Police dogs would've sniffed out a buried body. He's in the water definitely no doubt about it.

    • @Toz160
      @Toz160 17 дней назад +2

      Agree

    • @user-pw6gm1tu6q
      @user-pw6gm1tu6q 17 дней назад +5

      absolute nonsense u really think they would leave any significant amount of drugs just lying about for him to steal,enough to kill over with all the hassle that brings,youre deluded

    • @markjames2909
      @markjames2909 17 дней назад

      ​@@user-pw6gm1tu6q no....but they might leave something expensive worth stealing

  • @Tamarlane389
    @Tamarlane389 10 дней назад +13

    This lie aged well 😂

    • @Stoic_Poet
      @Stoic_Poet 10 дней назад

      so what happened?..im new to this

    • @pixies64
      @pixies64 4 дня назад

      He was found dead at the bottom of a canyon​ not far from the last phone location. Cause of death was consistent with a fall but I haven't heard anything about pushed or not@@Stoic_Poet

  • @BioDieselEstate
    @BioDieselEstate 9 дней назад +9

    Poor mother. Stop criticising her.

  • @barbaratait9007
    @barbaratait9007 18 дней назад +322

    Without a doubt the best video I've watched on this case.

    • @tinalyons3964
      @tinalyons3964 18 дней назад +11

      its one of the best without a doubt !!

    • @Marklad62
      @Marklad62 10 дней назад

      But its a pack of lies this man can never be trusted with his lies ever again he's totally full of 💩

    • @jadesmallz
      @jadesmallz 10 дней назад

      😂

  • @donna2567
    @donna2567 18 дней назад +228

    I can't believe that Jay hasn't been found yet and that the two men were able to fly back home. Lucy and Brad know a lot more than they can say!

    • @babe1er
      @babe1er 18 дней назад

      He's in the ocean they brought time by saying he was in the bush

    • @jamessones4044
      @jamessones4044 17 дней назад +19

      Bit like that American girl who was ended by her ‘mates’ in dom rep. They just flew home…
      Still to this day a really dodgy case.
      Look it up.

    • @cy8646
      @cy8646 17 дней назад +18

      No only that but the Air BnB was allowed to take in new guests and be repainted allegedly.

    • @sargonixofur1234
      @sargonixofur1234 17 дней назад

      The local police just don’t care about a foreign idiot who got himself mixed up with ex-pat crooks. If he was Spanish, this would be sorted.

    • @minigrande1939
      @minigrande1939 17 дней назад +2

      Because whatever there background whatever was going on in that house this is about a missing person he left the house alive simple .

  • @KR23YT
    @KR23YT 12 дней назад +4

    People are letting the +1 thing slide too easy, uk council estate kids that have “beef” have so called scoreboards of hitting rival gang members, +1 means another body on the board

  • @salimajahimha
    @salimajahimha 11 дней назад +108

    Yeah this video and the comments section really aged well didn’t it?
    Embarrassing how many clowns nowadays watch 3 crime documentaries on Netflix and think that qualifies them as some grizzled CSI detective.

    • @Brandon-rs3yr
      @Brandon-rs3yr 11 дней назад +27

      What’s your point they’ve found his body still way dodgy and in the mountains instead of choosing the road.

    • @Wikikiman
      @Wikikiman 11 дней назад +34

      Aged very well. The kid WAS with criminals and WAS involved in criminal activity himself and IS now dead under suspicion circumstances. It doesn’t take an Einstein to get the sense that something dodgy went on. I don’t get your point.

    • @colleenwhitman9040
      @colleenwhitman9040 11 дней назад +6

      I just came here to say something similar. You’ve stated it beautifully,

    • @RobertLawler-b6f
      @RobertLawler-b6f 11 дней назад +1

      Yeah is mates looking like that they are in ket holes I reckon that they definitely know what went on absolutely 💯 percent

    • @purplerings1969
      @purplerings1969 11 дней назад +11

      So what if his body is found? Doesn't mean he wasn't involved with gangs, drugs and other stuff.

  • @definitelynotatroll246
    @definitelynotatroll246 17 дней назад +263

    The Netflix documentary in a few years will be good

    • @billgatessenior2198
      @billgatessenior2198 17 дней назад +11

      Riz Ahmed as Jay, probably….

    • @jeffdidntkhs3945
      @jeffdidntkhs3945 17 дней назад +4

      Probably drop before Xmas 😂

    • @SoniaKamara-bw9ry
      @SoniaKamara-bw9ry 17 дней назад +2

      I was thinking the exact same thing, it will top tiger king…

    • @streetsiswatching9660
      @streetsiswatching9660 15 дней назад

      Give it 9 months

    • @andyb355
      @andyb355 15 дней назад +2

      That's what this tv detective guy is doing it for, so he has material to sell to production companies.

  • @lacey7025
    @lacey7025 17 дней назад +59

    Well done True Geordie this was the best coverage I have seen on this case. Thanks Brian

  • @patdoe5242
    @patdoe5242 8 дней назад +4

    I believe Jay was murdered by being pushed

  • @davidager7210
    @davidager7210 10 дней назад +10

    Why doesn't True Geordie go over and help? It seems like he knows it all.

    • @JakeDetects
      @JakeDetects 10 дней назад +7

      Knows everything about f**k all.

  • @julianmassin5683
    @julianmassin5683 14 дней назад +195

    I lived in Tenerife ironically when I was 19 working in the timeshare industry. I worked for gangsters and the island was run by gangsters as well. This was over 25 years ago and John (goldfinger) Palmer was the main man then. Obviously now that he’s dead it’s another criminal network. Even when I was there I heard stories of young people my age doing the job I was doing going missing and then being washed up on the beaches. Because they “broke the rules”. I was young but streetwise and never naive to my situation out there and I never fucked with the people I worked for or even worse, their competitors. From what you have documented, this mug has fucked with the wrong people, case closed. Fact. I would bet my house on it. The old bill are bought and paid for so there’s no proper investigation. Let this just be a lesson for every young fool who thinks they know it all that they bloody well don’t!!!!

    • @monicanath4859
      @monicanath4859 14 дней назад +10

      Thanks for sharing this. What a brutal job you had but you were so strong. Well done 🙏🏼!!

    • @julianmassin5683
      @julianmassin5683 13 дней назад

      @@monicanath4859 Thanks Monica. I didn’t know what it was all about until I got there and the company I worked for also kept my passport! I definitely grew up when I was there.

    • @dannytangier2944
      @dannytangier2944 13 дней назад +7

      Absolutely right....

    • @goodyeoman4534
      @goodyeoman4534 12 дней назад +5

      How can it be fact if it's yet to be proven?

    • @orca_bodhi1895
      @orca_bodhi1895 12 дней назад +9

      Excellent analysis. Whole thing is rotten by the sounds of things. No idea what happened but I reckon he's a gonner.

  • @catherineburn5293
    @catherineburn5293 16 дней назад +100

    I stumbled across your channel by accident and am very impressed with the manner in which you report this case. You stick to the point and make so much sense.

    • @jelaineweaver22
      @jelaineweaver22 16 дней назад +3

      Ditto

    • @heatherparfitt411
      @heatherparfitt411 15 дней назад +1

      @@jelaineweaver22 me also, just came up and was really impressed with how he delivered the facts as they stand!

    • @TheSwappy5
      @TheSwappy5 15 дней назад

      Ditto

  • @karl_TeamB1nks_P
    @karl_TeamB1nks_P 11 дней назад +2

    Good content mate. As of me watching this sky news have said they have found a body. Will be interesting know to find out a lot more

  • @cheBarrow
    @cheBarrow 10 дней назад +4

    so you still put a lot of nonsense together in this video!! Shame on you! R.I.E.P Jay 💙💙💙🙏

  • @eddieday-reilly5144
    @eddieday-reilly5144 17 дней назад +192

    First class coverage. Honestly, this is how Journalists should be conducting themselves.

    • @Ali920a
      @Ali920a 17 дней назад +9

      By repeating tales he read on twitter
      Give it a rest

    • @DonDarkz
      @DonDarkz 16 дней назад +2

      ​@@Ali920a lol 😂

    • @darkspeed62
      @darkspeed62 16 дней назад

      @@Ali920a The people he met with are criminals. How is that a tale? I get there wa a lot of conjecture and circumstantial evidence but the fact Jay was invovled in criminal activity and got invovled with criminals while on holiday here is not difficult to understand.

    • @yeldarleumas1847
      @yeldarleumas1847 15 дней назад

      It would have been ....if Jay was black and had Jay's 'past'.

    • @jamessunderland7435
      @jamessunderland7435 11 дней назад

      ​@@darkspeed62You're missing the point, he's saying that True Geordie is just saying what we've all already heard already. It's not journalism, he's a RUclipsr who normally talks about football, boxing, MMA and whatever else. I don't have anything against True Geordie but you're giving him way too much credit calling this "true journalism". The man is simply giving his thoughts on the situation which is still a hot topic that will help with his channel and views.

  • @xxMichalxx100
    @xxMichalxx100 18 дней назад +285

    Lucy didn't show her face because too many people would recognise her. For me, they were in Teneryfie to sell drugs for the gangsters

    • @johnholmes5674
      @johnholmes5674 18 дней назад +40

      She’s just camera shy. But pretty brave on only fans😊

    • @lorrainegreen6016
      @lorrainegreen6016 18 дней назад +5

      Ha that's funny they all definitely fishy

    • @Mdbz6767
      @Mdbz6767 18 дней назад +15

      @@lorrainegreen6016she’s fishy in a couple of different ways ..

    • @camerongebbie3691
      @camerongebbie3691 18 дней назад

      She has an OF? ​@@johnholmes5674

    • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
      @andrewarthurmatthews6685 18 дней назад +9

      Yes they were at the raves to deal drugs

  • @ruthbircham7340
    @ruthbircham7340 11 дней назад +3

    My take on it is that they're all in it and they all hurt him and dumped him because how do that guy knw he was found stabbed and thrown in a ditch?

  • @chriscaine7689
    @chriscaine7689 9 дней назад +3

    Brilliant logic being told here. Am I the only one that thinks Lucy knows far more than the story she has told. Maybe Jay phoned her in fear to tell her he was scared and didnt know where to go or what to do as they were after him.... why didnt she want her face shown in the interview? Fear of being identified, reprisals, trolls, etc etc. Also body language experts could tell if she was lying.
    We only have her word for it that he was ok, but out of battery, water etc
    He may have been found near where his phone last pinged, but he was found at the bottom of a ravine in the same area, not the exact spot. Did he fall, or was he pushed?
    Too many inconsistences in this story, and the british media hyping the 'conspiracy theories' to the max for obvious reasons.
    Nah, don't believe the story being put out, and we will never know the true story. This boy was a wrong'un and paid for that with his life

  • @chidiizunwanne
    @chidiizunwanne 17 дней назад +171

    I always thought it was weird that the Air B N B guy immediately started talking about Jay leaving his accommodation "alive" when that wasn't even the question.

    • @user-pw6gm1tu6q
      @user-pw6gm1tu6q 17 дней назад +6

      he was just addressing all the wild theories he was being accused of

    • @kimobrien4193
      @kimobrien4193 17 дней назад +9

      I think ur spot on lucy an the 2 men know exactly wots happened!! An I think that was his chance to escape wen the woman knocked to move the car. Then they followed him!!

    • @robertjeavons2602
      @robertjeavons2602 17 дней назад +7

      Spanish old bill refused help & seem to be getting nowhere, it wouldn't surprise me that they no more than what they are letting on & on the take💰🤔

    • @DanielKelly-ds9tv
      @DanielKelly-ds9tv 17 дней назад

      Because that's what he's being accused of doing killing him

    • @grahamhireme9283
      @grahamhireme9283 17 дней назад

      We need the whole conversation to grasp the context. The dumb ass that already done nine years for following orders followed orders. He’s hardly likely to say he was dead when he put his trainers on and legged it He didn’t die anywhere on the hill.

  • @themanwithnoname3636
    @themanwithnoname3636 14 дней назад +242

    The geezer who said he definitely was alive when he left definitely knows something. Who the hell says that.

    • @user-bm8cl6mc9o
      @user-bm8cl6mc9o 12 дней назад +12

      Yes. Because that can mean sure, he left alive, but they did something to him after he left the Airbnb. I hope not, but you can’t not think about these interactions.

    • @RickyXXXB
      @RickyXXXB 12 дней назад +14

      ​@@user-bm8cl6mc9o it can also mean. I have no idea what's happened but when I left. Everything was fine & that boy was still alive.

    • @Jon-fl7cu
      @Jon-fl7cu 12 дней назад +3

      Imagine you're in a big room, there's only a few people. Someone ate the last snickers. This guy walks in pointing his fingers.

    • @RickyXXXB
      @RickyXXXB 12 дней назад

      @@Jon-fl7cu fuck, the last snickers? Wait, that guy better not be ready to shoot me with his hand? 😳?
      What's your point? 😂

    • @fessali5726
      @fessali5726 12 дней назад +7

      Calm down Colombo. You got no evidence. But we do know jay wanted to be a gangster. Fake gangsters get exposed quick.

  • @liliaaaaaaaa
    @liliaaaaaaaa 11 дней назад +3

    I've literally just started looking into this story today after the news he was found. I had no idea about all the back story but just started looking into it now, after seeing various details not adding up. I guess we'll have to see what happens now with the post mortem & what information is released & what happens next if they bring him back to the UK if the British police take the case further once he's back on British soil.

  • @mercurial382
    @mercurial382 18 дней назад +147

    If my friend was asleep in another room, and some relative stranger needed to use his charger, I'd go in there myself, not send the guy you've just met in there (in the dark?) to find it for himself, and probably wake him up and look like he's potentially stealing from him. You'd have to be really out of it or an exceptionally carefree person. I wouldn't even send another friend in there, if he didn't live in the place too.

    • @georgezee5173
      @georgezee5173 17 дней назад +18

      That's you, a regular person. Convicted people usually don't follow the same social behaviour we would, which is dictaced by common sense and empathy. That's why the end up committing crimes.

    • @user-ig4mn6cm5y
      @user-ig4mn6cm5y 17 дней назад +16

      Two men fresh out of prison fly to a remote area for a few days pick up a young lad bring him back to the remote area and he disappears That was set up WAY in advance l don't believe he ever spoke to the lady at the Airbnb or his friend that morning l think he was drugged that night to be compliant

    • @hippychicken82
      @hippychicken82 17 дней назад +9

      ​@georgezee5173 no but he apparently gave him a towel if he wanted a shower! Don't belive for second he gave him a towel

    • @user-zt2cu2hj6q
      @user-zt2cu2hj6q 17 дней назад +6

      Possible jay went into the room and stole from the sleeping man (if he was asleep) caught him ?

    • @ainehanly7172
      @ainehanly7172 17 дней назад +14

      well if he so called used the guys charger in the bedroom and arrived at his house after 5am and left after 8am you would think Jays phone would be fully charged within 3 hours max or at least three quarters charged, he would hardly have used up all his battery between 8.00am and 8.30am by make 2 calls or one text and one video call to Brad the friend and him saying his phone was on 1 per cent, the time line on the so called phone being charged up doesnt make sense, needs to be looked into, clue there already as it takes 3 hours to charge an iphone fully, 50% charged every 30 minutes thus allowing it to cool down a bit after 50% charged as that guy says they went to bed straight when they all reached the cottage, thus allowing 3 hours to charge his phone, so those friends are caught out in their lies, strong evidence there already.

  • @PW-zs2yx
    @PW-zs2yx 18 дней назад +88

    That short Cctv footage you shown paints the picture for me, sounded like Lucy Mae witnessed the murder, maybe she had him meet up with somebody but didn't realise they would kill him. the location of the phone last ping is a complete red herring also.

    • @user-zt2cu2hj6q
      @user-zt2cu2hj6q 17 дней назад +10

      I think the phone was thrown

    • @PW-zs2yx
      @PW-zs2yx 17 дней назад +9

      @@user-zt2cu2hj6q Definitely probably nowhere close to where his actual body is.

    • @adam1234485
      @adam1234485 15 дней назад +1

      im sure that video was proved to have happened befor they even got to tenarife

    • @risinski5161
      @risinski5161 10 дней назад

      Can probably delete your comment now seems it's complete bollox 🥰

    • @triciamckinley-tt9rw
      @triciamckinley-tt9rw 10 дней назад

      How come he had nowhere to stay and why did his friends not take him to their flat

  • @travelswithted673
    @travelswithted673 8 дней назад +16

    When I was 18 I was mugged (non violent) twice in 2 weeks in Tenerife. The first time someone said they might be able to get my wallet back as it was a Morrocan guy. The other time was a few days later on a scooter by 3 lads who were driving the other way.
    Las Americas and Los Cristianos are so dodgy. I imagine the Police know what happened.

  • @donnycole5440
    @donnycole5440 11 дней назад +7

    This hasn’t aged well

    • @ViralBtw-jo3hq
      @ViralBtw-jo3hq 10 дней назад

      Kinda srill is relevant because the body wasnt there first time around

  • @jimmycosco5373
    @jimmycosco5373 18 дней назад +321

    “Looked like cheeky little innocent chap” nope, he looked like a prick the first moment I laid eyes on him.

    • @user-xc5er7zf2r
      @user-xc5er7zf2r 18 дней назад +8

      😂😂

    • @G-MoneyCMB
      @G-MoneyCMB 18 дней назад

      He like a lesbian lol

    • @syryder3236
      @syryder3236 18 дней назад +6

      Then your a poor judge of character coz he was on the periphery and only charged with violent public disorder

    • @lizxox9460
      @lizxox9460 18 дней назад

      ​@@andersondasilva1334defo adhd and groomed easily lead

    • @lewismurray6996
      @lewismurray6996 18 дней назад

      ​@syryder3236 still a coward who attacks one guy with 7 of his friends and weapons kids scum

  • @karenhowlett6511
    @karenhowlett6511 18 дней назад +111

    Not into being a online theorist, but thank you TG for being on you tube and being able to give a brutally honest opinion.

    • @daffyduchman
      @daffyduchman 18 дней назад +8

      jay escaped when the neighbour knocked the door went off road to hide until the bus was due lucy got jay to ping his location then sent that info str8 to ayub quasim and thats the end of that

    • @deanneharber7299
      @deanneharber7299 17 дней назад +1

      Why has arib. been painted ? and the step ? I don't think jay was cut by a cactus more like a knife.? I should think 🌵 would have needles that would prick. the skin.

  • @SteveJones-y4h
    @SteveJones-y4h 10 дней назад +12

    R.I.P...JAY LAD

  • @christinefoster5301
    @christinefoster5301 8 дней назад +3

    I feel Jay got involved with something. Out of his. league..little fish in a big pond and was 😱 SCARED could be lying low..
    the other 2 lads seem
    Like TROUBLE.

  • @9ElevenGamer
    @9ElevenGamer 17 дней назад +50

    6:14 That "Does" then "Did" shift from Present to Past is real odd!

    • @Phoenix8Rising
      @Phoenix8Rising 16 дней назад +5

      Caught that..🤔🕵️‍♀️

  • @unique13studio67
    @unique13studio67 17 дней назад +37

    Hit the nail on the head! Exactly same questions here:
    If you are friend why cover your face for interview?
    Why GoFundMe page? There's so many missing people everyday unfortunately, yet these set up page with specific target. Where the money will go?
    If your battery is on 1% surely you wouldn't be able to send location, make a phone call, send snapchat etc.
    Why not call taxi?
    Why would the woman who is local and see him walking in wrong direction didn't stop offer a lift or told him that 'mate you need to walk other way'?
    Was the bus drivers interviewed who are driving that route incase they have seen him walking?
    Why 2 men was not interviewed?
    Why no one really looking into footage from the beach?
    If his other friend said that the drive was 50min then there should be a different location for the search area.
    Why refuse help from UK police? Is local police hiding something?
    I'm not gonna say much about parents, but if my child would go missing i wouldn't care if I have experience in search or if it's dangerous - I would be out searching. No one could stop me from doing it.
    99% it will be a documentary one day
    Probably forgot something but yes more questions than answers.

    • @boundsgreenboy8354
      @boundsgreenboy8354 16 дней назад

      Very well put @unique13studio67

    • @rosemarykennedy5430
      @rosemarykennedy5430 16 дней назад +2

      It’s disingenuous to keep referring to gang members as “friends “ or “pals”. These aren’t normal relationships.

  • @lisarussell1027
    @lisarussell1027 11 дней назад +12

    Anyone who says “ he was definitely alive when I saw him “ pretty much knows he’s not alive !

  • @JamesMitchell-gw1hz
    @JamesMitchell-gw1hz 10 дней назад +2

    Unfortunately a lot of channels have come up with lots of misinformation and now he is found looking like he fell over a ravine

  • @tonylawlor8833
    @tonylawlor8833 18 дней назад +148

    The speed with which there was a GoFundMe site set up is suspicious imo.

    • @MrNiceGuy8922
      @MrNiceGuy8922 18 дней назад

      @@tonylawlor8833 and how did come up with the target of 30k??

    • @CaroleGilbert-b8u
      @CaroleGilbert-b8u 18 дней назад +14

      Too quick

    • @dougaldouglas8842
      @dougaldouglas8842 18 дней назад +19

      Suspicious is not even sufficient to ring all the bells. The last thing to enter anyone's mind is to take time to fill out details for this system. The eyes, watch the eyes of the mother and what we see there is a blank look that has no compassion, and how she is seeking to make herself to appear concerned, and not worried to death. The eyes tell it all being the windows of the soul. The father has just a blank stare, and where possible refuses to look into the camera, guilt with him

    • @kevphillips02
      @kevphillips02 18 дней назад +3

      And now they have had over 50 k

    • @pm9268
      @pm9268 18 дней назад

      @@dougaldouglas8842Entire lot of them are wrong’uns including Jay

  • @fastyaveit
    @fastyaveit 16 дней назад +171

    The Mother's crocodile tears struck me, she knows he WAS a bad lad.

    • @1949Matilda
      @1949Matilda 15 дней назад +22

      And has no qualms about using "Go Fund Me" money to have a Spanish holiday. 😮

    • @arstulex
      @arstulex 14 дней назад +10

      @@1949Matilda Don't forget about her flying other relatives over with that money too.

    • @arklife99
      @arklife99 14 дней назад

      ​@@1949Matildapeople been doing this their was a go fund me a while back for kid that got stabbed, usually its crime related or a persons own blade is used on them so go figure

    • @markandrew6077
      @markandrew6077 14 дней назад +7

      All pissing in same pot....

    • @keithchegwin1222
      @keithchegwin1222 13 дней назад +5

      I think she's genuinely upset

  • @pa6793
    @pa6793 11 дней назад +2

    Great video, awesome to hear your accent too as a Northumbrian living in Wales.

  • @LewisDecodesAI
    @LewisDecodesAI 10 дней назад +2

    This video shows the truth to what alternative media really is. I thought main stream media took me on a ride. 😢

  • @stewartlanaghan4694
    @stewartlanaghan4694 18 дней назад +186

    Only a confession will find that lad.

  • @Patriotic_Tanker_Driver
    @Patriotic_Tanker_Driver 16 дней назад +151

    This case confirms why I never believe mainstream media in the first instance.

    • @icantbebotheredwithnames
      @icantbebotheredwithnames 15 дней назад

      U should never believe mainstream media on anything. Did you learn nothing from the SCAMDEMIC

    • @Dianikes
      @Dianikes 15 дней назад

      So the entire Ukraine war?
      Covid?
      Immigrants 'not' coming to the UK in droves and turning the already crumbling country into a cesspit?
      Complete lack of reporting on country's like France also being turned into third world country's due to mass immigration?
      Literally every other advert may contain one white male while the country appears to be an African nation?
      All your sport commentary now has to have women and minorities that have played at schoolboy level at best, covering male orientated sport?
      The entirety of the woke agenda you are being subjected to on a daily basis?
      The 'national news' being dominated by Asians from the producers to the presenters? And the fact that nobody is ever interviewed that points out any of the above?
      None of this have convinced you then?

    • @youtuber6193
      @youtuber6193 15 дней назад

      Although if you look at the Nicola Bulley case, the police and media were correct all along and the social media detectives were well off the mark.
      And some are (embarrassingly for them) continuing to spout garbage theories about what they think happened, despite having zero evidence to back up their wild claims.

  • @ZEE15uk
    @ZEE15uk 7 дней назад

    Its been difficult putting the pieces together with all the various coverage of the case. I like it when its condensed info with facts. Great video. I've subscribed. 👍🏻

  • @meghainn2010
    @meghainn2010 12 дней назад +3

    Played silly games, probably found out the outcome the hard way.

  • @Smuja
    @Smuja 18 дней назад +74

    That Brad lad is wired in that interview

  • @BillyTheKidButterworth
    @BillyTheKidButterworth 18 дней назад +232

    The fact he’s went into the off road terrain suggests to me he’s 100% wanted to avoid being seen / found by those 2 guys. The RUclipsr “tearsofaclown01” has some interesting theories on this case. I forget the videos and their names but for sure he isn’t afraid to give his honest opinion and everything he says is plausible. Regardless very interesting case.

    • @mistaschaub3280
      @mistaschaub3280 18 дней назад +22

      Dude he never walked off; the woman, Lucy and brad have been told what to say by Ayub and he threw the phone off a cliff

    • @mistaschaub3280
      @mistaschaub3280 18 дней назад

      Jay's probably been eaten by pigs or at the bottom of the ocean

    • @debbief9861
      @debbief9861 18 дней назад +7

      Or to avoid anyone who might be after him. This going off road business is certainly very important. If he'd stayed on the formal road, in either direction, he wouldn't have got lost and he'd have come across another bus stop.

    • @amethystfeathers7324
      @amethystfeathers7324 18 дней назад +5

      Yep, pretty obvious really.

    • @daffyduchman
      @daffyduchman 18 дней назад +34

      jay escaped when the neighbour knocked the door went off road to hide until the bus was due lucy got jay to ping his location then sent that info str8 to ayub quasim and thats the end of that

  • @sandraswift3489
    @sandraswift3489 10 дней назад +8

    When my daughter went missing.i went to find her.iasked all homeless.idf anyone had seen her.i found out that she was in a homeless shelter and on streets.

  • @joncoaltrain5671
    @joncoaltrain5671 10 дней назад +5

    And the lesson is? Go for clicks with BS conjecture from the internet & you reveal yourself to be a mercenary fool.

  • @user-oe5fz6pu9q
    @user-oe5fz6pu9q 10 дней назад +5

    Aged like milk

  • @alieshajones5835
    @alieshajones5835 17 дней назад +136

    His lack of eye contact is because his buzzing out on drugs, his eyes and mouth are the big give away.

    • @gjrmorgan78
      @gjrmorgan78 16 дней назад +23

      Can't believe you are the first to point this out man. Kid has clearly taken enough stimulants to kill a small bull.

    • @WesLamb-u4l
      @WesLamb-u4l 15 дней назад

      Drugs can be for fun when your young so who cares. Your speculating just like mainstream media but they do make you make bad decisions.

    • @FFM0594
      @FFM0594 15 дней назад +8

      @@gjrmorgan78 His pupils aren't dilated, so it's not speed, E, acid or mushrooms. He's not pinned out either. What does that leave? I'm guessing this is a deal gone wrong.

    • @noplacetohideomann3633
      @noplacetohideomann3633 15 дней назад +3

      He’s not on drugs if anything a red bull probably has adhd

    • @noplacetohideomann3633
      @noplacetohideomann3633 15 дней назад +2

      And nerves make people act like that like me

  • @journeyintococo6996
    @journeyintococo6996 17 дней назад +210

    Assuming Jay was on class A's that night, there's no way he would have wanted food the next morning.

    • @BC0101
      @BC0101 17 дней назад +34

      Fr anyone that's been on mdma knows it kills your appetite, food is the last thing on your mind

    • @RDRD0611
      @RDRD0611 17 дней назад

      😂

    • @itisjustacomment
      @itisjustacomment 17 дней назад +14

      Turns out he spoke for stealing a rolex that morning to friends . Just so happens he walked to get away from Air b and b that morning.
      You could put two and two together. They chesed him down, and something bad happened.

    • @user-ur4sy9sk5n
      @user-ur4sy9sk5n 17 дней назад +7

      @@BC0101the most delicious food tastes like sand fr

    • @Warbaman
      @Warbaman 17 дней назад +7

      After the previous with the gang... i couldn't give 2 shits whats happened to him

  • @angh18
    @angh18 11 дней назад +3

    '...you said he wouldn't get stabbed...' Lucy Mae. = Premeditated.

  • @user-gl1jk4vk3g
    @user-gl1jk4vk3g 10 дней назад +5

    You should be ashamed.

  • @unorthodox_9142
    @unorthodox_9142 18 дней назад +24

    Thanks for this content! 😊 Actual in-dept (no BS) updates on this case. Sooo glad this channel popped up on my home page! 👍🏼