I like this plane, and notice lots of things are like what I have most of my flying time in. Avid Flyers that is. Dean Wilson sure was a genius in his design of the Avid Flyer, and there are many copies of what he did from Kitfox to this model. They should all send him a check when they produce another kit or complete plane. :-) ...Jim
One thing I wish would of been visually included in the video is, when you said: “We’re not big guys, we’re average. There’s a couple of inches in between us so I can get away from Rob if I need to.” I wish it would of panned to that camera. It seems like when it was showing the inside of the plane, y’all were right on top of each other (shoulders). And you often crossed your right arm over your body to (likely) give Rob more room. Maybe you ‘scooted’ over when you said that. That would of been cool to see. I’m buying this plane in February and would of loved to see an accurate representation of two grown men sitting next to each other in this plane. Regardless, another great video by Dan and your page. Thank you for all you do for the sport!
Excellent! This is the way on making a good ultralight video: IN FLIGHT SHOTS, a lot of then, then after landing talking about building, project, price, etc...
Dan: more videos like this....extensive and in-depth. I like your 6 to 8-minute intros on the ground but often they sound more like a marketing brochure. Wringing out the airplane like this is very informative. I would also find it interesting to compare this current subject to other specific other aircraft. No need to 'beat the others up' just point out the differences....i.e. light controls vs. heavy controls; noticeable stall breaks vs. smooth, etc. and let the viewer decide what they may want. Thanks, Dan! p.s. One obvious difference you did not address is the 'fabric' wing vs. nearly all other LSA aircraft.
This is the way I’d love to see all your videos Dan. One thing to bear in mind is that it is difficult to see the panel, so it would be great to get a better look at it.
GREAT visibility. Pity it got so expensive, it was for a time an actual choice if you didn't have a ton of cash to spend on a new LSA. This would have made a great ELSA too, probably one of the best, pity they didn't do that. Still, a good plane regardless.
Two fairly skinny guys, squeezed in there and overlapping shoulders. Which is why I feel the Cub style seating affords far more comfort and elbow room for both pilot and passenger. That is a nice aircraft, but it has the same limitation all others in that class have. That being the cockpit is not 2 place. it's 1.5 place, or maybe 1.75 place if you have one of the "wide" body variants. Which is fine for a 1 hour short hop, but a cross country trip would be brutally harsh without any room to move. So...Cub style is much more comfortable for both pilot and passenger as a small plane cross country cruiser.
ya, I had a bumper sticker on my Harley that said "No Fat Chicks"... I was looking for one on this plane. (not that there is anything wrong with plus size folks, to each their own... it's a joke, stop typing)
As a flight instructor I can assure you that you can stall when seeing the horizon. Has nothing to do with aircraft attitude but with angle of attack of the wing.
Of course you are right BUT - I believe they were using the horizon to show that as long as you could see the horizon on the A240 you can't stall the plane. The Ultralight Flyer
flexairz The wing stalls at the critical angle of roughly 18 degrees and always measured in reference to the relative wind. You are right that the airplane can stall while seen the horizon just as it can stall while pointing the nose straight down at the ground! The relative wind is always opposite the flight path irrespective of where the horizon might be and once the wing reaches the critical angle in reference to the relative wind it will stall!!! I suspect that in the video they meant that under certain flight conditions regards to power settings and airspeed combinations while seen the horizon as reference it will not stall?? Not easy to determine exactly what they meant for sure? But yes you are right in your statement!
Hi Rob. Great vid, I watch all the A220 & 240 vids I can find, my 220 is due in Dec. Ron
Lovely aircraft, Rob is great guy and extremely knowledgeable. You can't go wrong with the plane or working with Rob!
I like this plane, and notice lots of things are like what I have most of my flying time in. Avid Flyers that is. Dean Wilson sure was a genius in his design of the Avid Flyer, and there are many copies of what he did from Kitfox to this model. They should all send him a check when they produce another kit or complete plane. :-) ...Jim
One thing I wish would of been visually included in the video is, when you said:
“We’re not big guys, we’re average. There’s a couple of inches in between us so I can get away from Rob if I need to.”
I wish it would of panned to that camera. It seems like when it was showing the inside of the plane, y’all were right on top of each other (shoulders). And you often crossed your right arm over your body to (likely) give Rob more room. Maybe you ‘scooted’ over when you said that. That would of been cool to see.
I’m buying this plane in February and would of loved to see an accurate representation of two grown men sitting next to each other in this plane.
Regardless, another great video by Dan and your page.
Thank you for all you do for the sport!
Excellent! This is the way on making a good ultralight video: IN FLIGHT SHOTS, a lot of then, then after landing talking about building, project, price, etc...
Dan: more videos like this....extensive and in-depth. I like your 6 to 8-minute intros on the ground but often they sound more like a marketing brochure. Wringing out the airplane like this is very informative. I would also find it interesting to compare this current subject to other specific other aircraft. No need to 'beat the others up' just point out the differences....i.e. light controls vs. heavy controls; noticeable stall breaks vs. smooth, etc. and let the viewer decide what they may want. Thanks, Dan! p.s. One obvious difference you did not address is the 'fabric' wing vs. nearly all other LSA aircraft.
This is the way I’d love to see all your videos Dan. One thing to bear in mind is that it is difficult to see the panel, so it would be great to get a better look at it.
Good point!
This was a great video about the Aerotrek A240. I have one on order for an April delivery.
can u tell me how long the lead time is from order to delivery?
That Foxbat is AWESOME.
Not a FOXBAT.... It is a rebadged EUROFOX 👍
Very nice plane looks like my kitfox, nice landing!!
Any chance Aerotrek windshield can be had without those two diagonal metal bars running across it?
The A32 has that feature . ruclips.net/video/vwDHjeWY7DU/видео.html
Nothing personally but how much do you two fellows weigh and what is the max weight of the crew ?
Dan and Rob are in the 180 lbs, range. You would have to visit the website to get the specs of max weight.
Nice video, good job
Thanks!
GREAT visibility. Pity it got so expensive, it was for a time an actual choice if you didn't have a ton of cash to spend on a new LSA. This would have made a great ELSA too, probably one of the best, pity they didn't do that. Still, a good plane regardless.
you can't stall if you see the horizon?
When are you releasing the ctss ride report from lsa expo?
Problems with audio and video - hoping to do another one at Copperstate.
The Ultralight Flyer
@@ultralightnews actually, audio is soooo much improved ! It is actually coming through both speakers of my headphones for a change. THANKS !
Very useful!
Two fairly skinny guys, squeezed in there and overlapping shoulders. Which is why I feel the Cub style seating affords far more comfort and elbow room for both pilot and passenger. That is a nice aircraft, but it has the same limitation all others in that class have. That being the cockpit is not 2 place. it's 1.5 place, or maybe 1.75 place if you have one of the "wide" body variants. Which is fine for a 1 hour short hop, but a cross country trip would be brutally harsh without any room to move. So...Cub style is much more comfortable for both pilot and passenger as a small plane cross country cruiser.
ya, I had a bumper sticker on my Harley that said "No Fat Chicks"... I was looking for one on this plane. (not that there is anything wrong with plus size folks, to each their own... it's a joke, stop typing)
As a flight instructor I can assure you that you can stall when seeing the horizon. Has nothing to do with aircraft attitude but with angle of attack of the wing.
Of course you are right BUT - I believe they were using the horizon to show that as long as you could see the horizon on the A240 you can't stall the plane.
The Ultralight Flyer
flexairz The wing stalls at the critical angle of roughly 18 degrees and always measured in reference to the relative wind. You are right that the airplane can stall while seen the horizon just as it can stall while pointing the nose straight down at the ground! The relative wind is always opposite the flight path irrespective of where the horizon might be and once the wing reaches the critical angle in reference to the relative wind it will stall!!! I suspect that in the video they meant that under certain flight conditions regards to power settings and airspeed combinations while seen the horizon as reference it will not stall?? Not easy to determine exactly what they meant for sure? But yes you are right in your statement!
Cockpit width 44 inches
Useful load 580 pounds - full fuel 142 pounds(22.5 gallons) = 438 Pounds for people and baggage (Qty 2 219 pounds persons)
Thank you