Harbor Freight is Coming for Snap On Hard!
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Every time we make a tool purchase we have to weigh the tools use, price, quality and durability. The days when Snap On was the only option for professionals are long gone. For DIY’rs it’s a no brainer.
Exactly
It's good for pro guys also. Because a lot of people drop out of being mechanics because getting setup with decent Tools was too pricey. Nowadays you can do everything if you spend a few grand in tools. And all the RUclips tool testing shows that although USA stuff is often good, there are often better options from Taiwan.
Don't even get me going on tool boxes. A $10,000 tool box when you can run a $300 tool cart and a supplemental basic metal tool cabinet for the stuff that gets less use.... Just blows my mind.
Hey Jimmy, HFT is going after the tool trucks!
@@sasquatchrosefartsCordless was a game changer too. All the good ones are made in China. Milwaukee has always been the industry leader, and a must have for professional pipe fitters IMHO; and you could argue with clarity that Hercules and Bauer are right there with them.
@@ihavethedocuments2580 LOL 🤣🤣🤣 Makita ruled the oil industry for many years before Milwaukee was even seen!
I’m all for it, quality of their stuff is getting better, more stores. It’s awesome to have harbor freight as an option. Especially with some of the outrageous tool truck prices
That being said, quite a few of those tools & equipment are overpriced for what they are, almost mimicking Snappy in that regard. Lol
@@CubasAutomotiveA quality auto test light at the freight is 20x less than on a Snap On truck..
You might want to visit the freight when you're in the hood
Your family will be ashamed of you if you buy harbor freight tools. Just keep that in mind when your wife runs off with a snap-on dealer.
@@ihavethedocuments2580 I was referring to the more substantial tools, like those in the icon series. Ratchets, sockets, tool boxes.... not test lights
Not to mention ridiculous rebrand prices.
I was in need of a triple square socket set for VW Audi and bought one the other day. It's pretty nice. Their Quinn line is coming along well too. I think Quinn is the bluepoint/silver eagle version for harbor freight.
I bought one of their like 3 ton $79 floor jacks back in 2011. I still use it almost every weekend, I've never even added fluid to it. Me and my neighbor have done four or five engine jobs with my $169 cherry picker. My $149 20 ton press has done at least 12 to 13 wheel bearings within the last year. Not to mention I don't know how many u- joints
Hell yeah man. Put a 454 in a 57’ Chevy with 90% HF tools
HF going hard after those lawsuits. 😂😂😂😂
Everything that is out of patent from the original manufacture you will find it at HF now
I’m a fan of the Icon stuff. Use a coupon and you can get decent deals as well. Fills a gap that Craftsman left. I’m not a pro so Snap On is a bit out of my budget. Thanks for sharing!
I was a teen in the 70's so Craftsman was the go to tool brand for us, great price, selection, quality and don't forget the guarantee... still have some. Sears back then was the bomb.
The collapse of Sears and the Craftsman tool line has indeed left a hole, smart of Harbor Freight to jump right in there and take over.
The Craftsman brand will never ever be the same as it was... I mean the name only really means something to people around my age anyways.
Soon it will be like... What's a Sears?
I miss sears. Used to be every where. Harbor freight has definitely filled their place for me.
Im a licensed mechanic and Ive never owned a single snap on tool. When guys talk down about my tools I just smile. Because I know they are up to their eyeballs in debt for some overpriced gabage.
I own all of my tools 100 percent and its not going to change one bit.
I don't understand why everyone gets so butt hurt about harbor freight. I've used pittsburh impact sockets for 10 years and they have held up. Yeah I've broke a lot of extensions, but I've broke several snap on extensions too. I'm personally happy to see some competitors to the tool trucks.
Same, I actually pulled my snap on impact sockets out of my set and put Pittsburg in as the snap on deeps are machined way to shallow. In the rust belt I also like how the hf are a bit looser as they actually fit rusty stuff.
What the hell do you use your extensions for? In 20+ years I’ve broken 2 extensions, and they were really really cheap junk to begin with
@deeznutz3494 just the recent I can remember one was a motor mount bolt on a 2001 Ford escort, that was a Pittsburg. And one was a caliper mount bolt that was seized up on a jeep cherokee, that was a snap on.
Im a diehard Snap on guy, but I’ll go to HF a get everything icon to. Idc. I buy any tool that’s decent quality and works good.
Flat Rate Master.. Harbor Freight is definitely stepping up their game. Their tools are a lot better than they used to be for sure.I have a few of their Pittsburgh sockets and 1 ratchet and a few of their Icon and so far I have had no issues with any of it. In fact I will be getting their balljoint press and a few other things when they hit the stores. I also have their US General full bank cart and it is great. I got it and sale for $499 and with the coupon it was only $449.
My nephew apologized for breaking my HF 1/2” ratchet.
I said “Nooo, that’s a good thing!! Now I get one of the new ones!”
Honestly I'm a newer tech and hf has been my life line since i started where otherwise i couldn't own the shirt on my back or be up to my eyes in debt.
I don't deny they aren't as good as snap on, but when i can buy 10 rachets for the price of one snap on rachet, with more functionality, I'll take the dip in quality. Hell my daily use 3/8th is the hf extendable rachet with the 3/8 and 1/4 on the other side. Now the 1/4 sheered off one time i put too much torque on it but the 3/8 side still going strong. And all for a budget i can afford as a starting tech making a little over McDonald's pay. Now i do plan on moving on from my current shop in they don't bump my pay once i get a solid two years under my belt and have enough experience and time that i can feel confident putting it on a resume and get a job else where but for now hf tools and gear and keeping the nose to the grind stone
You are smart.
You lads are criminally under paid in my opinion. I've had people work under me, and paid them what I would have like to be paid in their position.
You are on your way to be a skilled tech and should be paid accordingly right now 😡
Something I've definitely starting to notice more and more is that young Techs who are new to the trade are definitely looking at Harbor Freight more and more to cut costs. With inflation the way it is Snap On is going to have a hard time locking these young techs into these huge credit agreements for a box. The Harbor Freight boxes may not even come close to the actual quality of a SnapOn box but for a small fraction of the price people will opt to go the cheaper route. Harbor Freights strategy of going after the professional instead of the DIYer is starting to pay off in dividends. We will see how popular the US General series 3 boxes actually end up being. I know in my shop many young techs are coming through more and more with Harbor Freight boxes.
As a newer tech if it wasn’t for HFT I wouldn’t be able to afford to get into this trade. That said some of the Pittsburgh stuff doesn’t make the cut but have had no issues with the icon tools I’ve bought so far.
Over here they share a parking lot with a Ford/Subaru Dealership. The techs live there. Is it like 20' away from the bays.
ICON is not bad, I just bought one of their breaker bars. Someone uploaded a video testing their breaker bars , it held up until I believe 600 ft lbs before it broke.. $45 dollar breaker bar not bad..
SnapOn has patents on a lot of good tools that HF will not come near. I would like to see more. Good to see. SnapOn pricing is outrageous.
like what?? name a few. They dont have to copy they can make a better version instead.
True, but if they change something like the grip style or internal parts they are not in violation.
Somehow I don’t think Harbor Freight gives a damn about infringing. It’s blatant with the ICON line.
@@Code325it’s not infringing if you sell the exact same tool as the tool trucks that’s made by a third party in China but has “USA” stamped on it when buy it on the truck.
@@warrenself are you Chinese?
I have 4 Harbor Freight stores within 15 minutes. they are popping up like dollar general stores in this area.
In the UK snap on has fallen off the top of the mountain. We have us pro/Bergen, Nielsen, sealey, laser tools, draper and with diagnostics you can get autel, topdon, kingbolen, launch, xtool and the diagnostics do a lot more than snap on for the price you pay. I paid £600 for the kingbolen k10. And does more than the snap on.
ive been buying HF tools for my home shop for the past couple years now,the hand tools for the price are incredible..the only thing I dont buy from them as of yet is cordless tools,i live my Milwaukee stuff
When I was at there booth at Sema they told me most of those new tools come out in April.
Impressed! The fit and finish is getting a lot better. Just got the inside track membership, been going there at least once a month lately. I like my snap on guy and he takes great care of us. See him at least 48 weeks out of the year
Absoloutley agree, have one walking distance from where I live, snap on truck won’t even come out to my shop, guess which ball joint press I buy….warranty is great and more convenient than waiting a week for a tool truck.
There’s a reason snap one ball joint press is the best you never have to warranty it. I wouldn’t trust that pee wee press on anything In the rust belt
A buddy of mine restores and fixes motorcycles, especially older ones. He uses Pittsburgh sockets, color coded, all day long. Hes been wrenching with them for years and even was doing a side gig of repairing other people's motor equipment. Of course the coating is all worn off, but they still work great for him. Im sue he could get the icon or quinn stuff from HFT, but im sure hell just get another set of the Pittsburgh when the time comes
I'm a diesel mechanic but personally I never bought a single tool off from a toolbox truck not once have I bought anything from any of them. I only buy my tools mainly husky which I'm a huge fan of and I've been using their tools for at least 20 years, I own also Craftsman and other Amazon tools as well as quite a bit of harbor freight tools and let me tell you harbor freight's really stepping up on their tools in general and That's a really good thing. Funny enough that my coworkers keep telling me to buy shit off from the toolbox trucks and I keep telling them no they're just overseas Taiwan or Korean made tools that are just copy and paste and made in the same factory and they're brought over here. Now I know snap-on makes a few of their tools on their own but in my opinion lately I've noticed that they have been going downhill and also they have been trying to copy and paste and getting tools overseas from a factory that you can get the same tool at harbor freight that was assembled in the same factory as that snap-on tool was. So in the end buying tools from the toolbox truck is completely worthless and I never will buy one from them unless I have to but as it stands right now I never have and possibly never will until the right time comes until I have to get a specific tool that no other brand sells.
Husky and craftsman(newer ones) are apex tools. I like husky as well
I'm not a mechanic but had to have just one Snap on tool. I got a Snap on ratcheting screw driver that I use all the damn time and have had for a decade. Sometimes it's ok to buy the best.
I’m all for it, especially if it’s something your not gonna use very often whether your a professional or a diy’er
Thing is you can use it hard everyday. Icon works great.
It comes down to return on investment.....for what snap-on prices are now it is just not worth it anymore.
Somebody needs to fill a gap. If HF can fill a niche then go for it my friend owns a transmission shop he's been using HF tools for years, it's not because he doesn't own tons of Snap On and Mac etc. The use is in the beholder if it works and you like it use it.
I still have some tools I bought from the Snap On truck in the late sixties. It’s great stuff. But today, they’re priced way above my pay grade.
Makes me want to try some of their ratchets
I love harbor frieght tools, I have a floor jack that is awesome and the thing i love the most is my welder that i bought from them.
If harbor freight comes out with a payment plan like the tool trucks, then that will definitely be the end of the tool trucks. Right now the only things that trucks have going for them is the payment plan and convenience. With the growing number of stores the convenience edge is getting smaller.
They already have financing...
i think your right
With large enough purchases, they do interest free monthly payments. Everything under that you get 5% cash back
Good for HF, keep swinging the hammer.
Question for those in the know --> someone mentioned longevity, what percentage of new shop employees go on to do a 30 plus year career in automotive repair?
A lot of Harbor freights tools don’t last 30 minutes in professional world. Their great for at home but when you rely on that tool to make you money quality beats it every time.
@@waterloo123100Bullshit
@@waterloo123100 LOL Please upload videos of Icon tools not lasting 30 minutes and a Snap On tool lasting 300 minutes...
@thooks1234 my snapon 14v 3/8 impact survived getting ran over by a trackloader
Snap on dug their own grave
I’m very concerned my snap on box and tools will be worthless in 5 years
But but but......Snap-on has that long history. Have you heard their newest slogan? "Snap-on Heritage: Keeping Mechanics in Debt for 100 Years"
Remember when my Dad got Harbor Freight flyers in the mail. Want to say 79 or 80. My Dad ordered a 3/4 inch set from them it was junk the ratchet never worked. Many years later they did replace it though.
It's funny that people hold Snap On as some mythical tool maker when in fact their stuff was being made right alongside Craftsman at Western Forge and just received a high polish finish. Snap On stuff has let me down just as often as other premium brands that cost 1/3 of S.O. I won't cry if they disappear.
Why do you lie? Snap On makes their own wrenches, sockets, ratchets, pliers, screw drivers and the list goes on, they are not made next to Craftsman or any of the other cheap brands. You want to buy cheap tools fine, buy them but you Harbor Freight fan boys always try to drag Snap On in and tell lies about them.
Yeah, I remember HF in the 90's... What a drastic change.
They have top shelf tools and the price is extremely fair.
When I heard Mac and Matco were having their tools manufactured overseas I knew something was up. That would have been anathema back in the 80's 90's. Still great tools nonetheless.
Harbor Fright will never equal Snap On in quality.
Their warranty is good. I had a few tape measures from them that were with a free with a purchase coupon. So they were free to begin with. I noticed that they had a lifetime warranty, so I took one back and got it swapped out. How easy is it to get tool warrantied from Snap on?
Yay I love Pittsburgh impact sockets better than Matco. Even Walmart hyper tough
The Pittsburgh impact sockets are indeed durable, but they just don't have the mass the better sockets do. It's the difference between 30 seconds of 'ugga dugga' and a bolt/nut that comes off in 2 seconds. I have replaced most of my often-used impacts with Snap On and the difference is noticeable. However, most of my main line sockets are Icon & I feel they're at least as good as '90s-earlier Craftsman. Most of my specialty tools are Icon. My electric ratchets are Snap On and I'm not the least bit upset about that, and it won't change.
If snap on thinks they can keep charging the outragous price of their tools and run away when warranty claims are made. People's opinions will change and snap on won't be considered a premium tool brand. Soon other tool brands will become more appealing.
Did you use an impact gun on your chrome sockets and Snap On turned you down for warranty when you broke them? Maybe you should learn how to use the proper tools for the job. Using a screw driver as a pry bar is another example of piss poor mechanics.
💪🏻awesome! I recently told a young female technician I hired don’t buy tools 🧰 I’m bring my set back to shop. My opinion shop owners like myself will be supplying tools etc. This would be the place I’d start.
$185 for a Snap-On ratchet.
$50 for Icon.
That Snap On ratchet will last for decades while that Icon will break due to it poor quality.
@mustangecoboosthpp3869 Icon has a lifetime warranty, so go back to Harbor Freight. Get a new Icon for the same $50.
@@326th I don't have time to keep running back to Harbor Freight returning broken tools all the time. I own a complete set of Snap On tools all paid for, no payments to anyone, these tools will last my lifetime and will one day be passed on to one of my grand kids.
I will say I have all three icon torque wrenches they work good quality is good. I will say when the harbor freight tools brake I exchange it out use it till the tool truck shows up an gets replaced. The harbor freight tools go home an the truck tools use at work. You still do get what you pay for example impact swivel sockets 80 dollars then about 100 now snap on 300.00 mine broke in half.
The winner of the game is going to be who offers the best organization. When you can lay out your tools in your box, use a cheap 3d scanner, and send them the files for custom inserts will be the game changer.
I'm glad to hear it.
I've reviewed a couple of the ICON tools, I believe the hype!
Once snap on decided to sue harbor freight for their jacks, it was game over for snap on
It doesn't end at the balljoint press, one other notable example is their version of snapons slip nose pliers
I want the ball joint press can’t wait
and in tool box tours and some car repair videos i see hft tools
I learned this years ago. If prices was the solo thing to consider when buying to no one would support the truck. Look at it like this some folks buy KIA’s but yet others buy high end European and Asian cars. There sales will go up but the tool trucks will be around. I do like Icon myself!
what about the price?
I’m a diesel mechanic and all my tools are from harbor freight. I don’t have any issues with them
HF is exposing a massive hole in the market. If I was a new tech or a serious hobbyist I would have a US General cart full of Icon tools. The tool trucks make this profession unaffordable for the newest and brokest in the industry.
im a mechanic with snap on boxes at home and my work box is a hf cart lmao.
Sad thing for them is that Rigid and Klein did not freak out on the other professionals and try and rape the techs.
They are the standard for plumbers and electricians and didn't go all Gucci and Rolex on us.
I've tried many of the Icon line and they are real good stuff. My only real issue is longevity. With SO I can get rebuild kits for my old ratchets and my 20 year old ratchets are still the same handle design as today and can take the newer rebuild kits, HF on the other hand likes to change suppliers a lot and what they sell today might not be there tomorrow. IF their smart they will stay with the same design but maybe improve it or bring in rebuild parts. (Although to be fair, I can buy the replacement HF ratchet for just a bit more than a SO rebuild kit)
This is why I miss the craftsman USA days
dont worry you can warranty it out. I had a ratchet that they discontinued that broke, they looked up the old ratchet and gave me the value in credit towards a new ratchet.. 100% ftw harbor freight..
Are they going hard after the tool trucks?
Are they going hard after snap on?
HF has some real gems in their stores, you just gotta run around in them a bit!
warranty would be my question, if I can exchange a broken took for a new one, that would be good.
Snap-On digged their own grave. Now its time to lay in it.
Their own smoke machine? Holy crap.
GOOD. I’m sick and tired of snap ons monopoly and hard price tag. Maybe this will finally force snap on to think twice of the price tags.
Great news!
In Canada atleast, our equivalent is Princess Auto, the quality is much poorer when compared to HF. So atleast for the Canadian market this does not apply justly
a Cornwell truck comes by these car shops next to my HFT. and i stepped on and got a product catalog book .
so i know who makes what tool🤔🤔.
cornwell outsourcing mostly everything now almost as bad as matco who makes no tools
I’m usually hard while on snap on truck as well
They do have that effect ...
You could buy 2 or 3 of the same wrenches or ratchets from any much lesser expensive brands. If one breaks just use the other you bought. And thats "if" it breaks. Your still way ahead of buying snap on. People are tricked into getting ripped off just because it says "USA " on it.
Have a few of their ICON tools(very nice) and quite a few of their Hercules cordless(also very good). However, would never buy their "P" line of tools due to breakage a tolerances, especially if generating a lot of torque where one could SEVERLY injure themselves.
The only Pittsburg I own is a half inch comfort grip breaker bar. as a heavy-duty truck mechanic, I have beat on that thing for over 10 years and it's held up great. I agree quality tools are safer but I think I paid $15 or $19 for it. Snap-on probably would have been $150-$200.
I bought the Hercules ultra torque. My friend has the Milwaukee M whatever fuel. He came with to salvage yard to help pull an engine. He used the ultra to bust away all the big stuff. I laughed when he told me... " this is pretty nice, I should have got one of these instead ".. 👍
Before you know it there will be icon trucks outside shops and dealerships.
if i was pro, all my tool truck credit from all 4 tool trucks. would be a snap-on on 4T floor jk, snap-on 1/2 ctech tw.
im a diy and i do my homework on all 4 of the tool trucks websites " because made in Taiwan in chasing the tool trucks".
I have the Snap-On BJP1 ball joint press. Paid about $800 for it too. And to be honest though it’s good I should have looked for a better deal. Does it work yes but for the price I could have done better. Maybe the Matco/OTC version with the ball detents, because the snap spring clips really suck. Once they lose tension the adapters just fall out and you have to keep opening them back up and it’s just a hassle. But I would buy the Icon one if I had the chance. Save myself the money and hassle of warranty.
check out the new matco one. someone else's tool. it's bad to the bone. I don't use one or I would be stoked to buy it.
@@dustyc324 made by schley I beleive 18100
Years ago, I tried to buy a tool for myself from the rip off truck at work. Called him twice, had our mechanic call him, and he NEVER returned the calls. 🖕crap on!
Nothing wrong with the icon line of tools . Love snap on but they have been screwing people for years
I freaking love it haha
I got a icon tool box with a hutch and side locker for a 3rd of the price of a snap on version and it’s really good
Their prices are so crazy
Im glad to see hf stepping up with some of this stuff but ive lost my love for them the last few years. Even more the last couple months. Icon stuff is way too pricy for what it is, the prices on everything has gotten ridiculous. Now, the warranty stuff. The store near me will only warranty basic hand tools now. You have to sign for it if they do warranty it and their "automotive specialty tools" only have a 90 warranty.
I have all brands even snap on. I really like Icon tools. I ignore all negative people and videos say.
People keep talking about what Harbor Freight is “making” now. They don’t make anything. They buy existing tools from various companies in Asia and rebrand them. They’re like Matco. They don’t design and manufacture tools. The quality is going up because China is stepping up their game every year.
my snap on man parked his 3 trucks was going broke lol by by u over price rapp trucks
Icon copied Knipex too.Icon copied the Snap On talon grip pliers and pwz pliers which are coming out.There is a quinn spark plug socket set that is a copy of the
VIM set
The problem with HF is it's all copy cat, 0 innovation on their own behalf. The quality is much better and great for home use, depending on the tool.
HF gets better all the time. Not exactly cheap. Ok, someone has to say it. Take a shot every time Mike says ‘goin hard, goin after.’
snap on is USA made
Wow.... I'm quite surprised. I didn't expect them to go this route.
if the quality is good, the convenience factor would take them over the top.
My girlfriend's son works for harbor freight. It's not about the tools. It's not about the quality. It's not even about the affordability.....
It's all about the discounts rebates and rewards.
There isn't a retailer in the market right now. Doesn't matter if it's gasoline, or tools. They all have a gimmick they're selling. And that gimmick is, discounts rebates and rewards.
Does con scheme has been around since the invention of the bubble gum machine.
Because the guy who invented, discounts rebates and rewards. Had a very interesting name. He was called the world's greatest con man.
And this is legitimately what retailers think that we want for our money. To be conned, by an ancient con man.
America has an epic and verifiable relationship, with con men.
Let's assume the quality is the same as the big boys. It may or may not be.
The choice you/we gotta make is whether you pay a substantially lower price for a tool that looks the same but had all the R&D done already by one of the big boys. Copying a good existing tool, which HF does shamelessly, relies on the R&D done by someone else. And R&D involves cost which has to be recaptured when selling the tool. We let our consciouses be our guides.
Kind of like buying one of the Chinese knockoff Harley Davidson copy bikes. Not the real thing but close, and for a fraction of the price.
I agree, the warranty process (on some but not all) HF tools is arguably easier. You do have to make sure what the warranty is though when you buy as a lot of HF stuff only has a 90 day warranty.
My personal experience is that the quality on the higher end HF stuff is good, maybe almost the same as the big boys but not quite the same. So, depening on how often you will use the tool, it will quite likely work for you just fine for a fraction of the price. I cannot speak to heavy daily use though. There is where that extra, say 10%, of quality and reliability could be the difference between a broken tool and an incomplete job, especially on something that, by definition, is going to get "abused". Like a ball joint press.
Also, HF has become masterful at wrapping up big boy copy tools in eye catching packages. People will buy just because of an eye catching color or tray or box. I find that kind of amusing actually. But, I digress.
Mac truck here selling vim and titan tools
they’re gonna make the tool trucks go out of business
Harbor Freight already failed with a larger expensive scan tool. I haven’t seen it in store in a couple of years. Forgot the name of it Zurich something like that.
Harbor Freight customers didn’t buy it. I think it was a complete failure. I bought stubby ratchet which the handle is mostly all shaped like a handle grip, but has so much back drag it’s unusable.
There’s something wrong with everything on harbor freight. There are no diamonds in the ruff in this store.
I bought the Badlands off-road Jack, but I haven’t used it yet. Let’s just hope it works when I need it! Ain’t cheap either $300.
Most people ain’t gone pay 40% of the Snap-on price for harbor freight tools. The Badlands jack is unique though. Haven’t seen one like it. Maybe there are others out there idonno.
I try not to use ball joint presses anymore. It has to be actually worn out before I sell those parts. Contrary to popular belief, ball joints have a tolerance and aftermarket parts might be worse than what you already got.
How recent were your HF tools purchased? The stuff from 10 years ago is nothing like the stuff they're selling now.
They just need to put wheels on the store lol
People only buy icon bc it looks like snap on and deep down they want snap on but its too expensive. And why do they want it bc everyone knows snap on is good stuff.
But just bc it looks the same doesn't mean it is the same. For the price of the icon stuff there is much better options but again people buy it bc it looks like snap on.
Snapon licenses their design to harbor freight
They very well may. Their new pliers are nearly carbon copies off Snappy. Now they're copying Knipex too. As a professional though, I absolutely love my Knipex and SO pliers. Don't forget that we're also supporting a small business when purchasing on the tool truck!
I don't get the bias against Harbor Freight from the "Professional" Technicians.... I can't imagine Snap-On tools being THAT MUCH BETTER. The number one reasoning from Pro Techs as to why they buy SO tools? "Oh, if I need to warranty it, the truck comes to me, I don't have to leave the shop." That insinuates that it IS going to break and that you NEVER leave the shop. If you really, really, really need the tool, the SO guy ain't going to run over to your shop and be there within an hour. I bet most techs are within 1 hour from a Harbor Freight. And If you're going to buy HF tools, you're most likely buying them from a store near where you live or work.
The Icon line is very good. Heck, the Pittsburgh stuff is good.
I'm not a Pro, I'm just a driveway weekend warrior DIY'er. But I do everything I can on my fleet of 5 vehicles (Most all Toyota, so it's mainly maintenance and such). But I have absolutely zero desire to stop by a shop where I see the SO truck and buy stuff. And I work near a LOT of car repair shops and the local SO guy has a presence on FB that I could connect to.... No way do I want to spend 4-8X the money on a Snap On tool that I could go to HF, buy the Icon brand and most likely never have to warranty.
Here's another point - with the cost of living today, ANY mechanic would be plain out STUPID to buy took truck tools at the cost they are. Why on Earth would you spend money on something that you could buy MUCH cheaper and have more money leftover for food, housing and transportation for your family? A $2000 tool box setup versus a $20,000 setup? $6,000 worth of tools versus $60,000? Why? You can literally buy 8-10X as many tools from Harbor Freight as you can a tool truck for the same money.
outside of their ICON line, most of it is still chinesium, but I have to say any of the ICON stuff I have bought has been good, quality, reliable tools...snap-on may brush it off thinking they won't take their customers, but if customers can get 80% of the quality/durability of snap-on for around half what snap-on charges, you are correct...they would be remiss to brush it off and not take it seriously.
Harbor freight needs a truck.
Mike FRM, you knocked it out of the park. HFT is taking over they want Mac, Matco, Snap On and Cornwell they want a bigger bite of the tool market. Mike the video is a 10.